Hacking at the BT Voyager 205 adsl router modem
This started as a wee collection of miscellaneous telnet cli commands, tweaks, hacks and other fun for the BT Voyager 205 router. a.k.a. "Globespan Viking" (Globespan is now owned by conexant), but my original BT Voyager 205 text file started getting a lot of google-type action, so I eventually got around to doing a web page proper, as promised.What we now have is pretty much Viking Central, and owners of all the viking chipset based routers; BT Voyager 205, of course, CastleNet AR502, Dynalink RTA100, RTA500-D51, GlobespanVirata, Netgear DM602, Solwise SAR100 & SAR130, Riger db102, Callisto 821, BT Voyager 205, CastleNet AR502, Cell pipe 22A (21A) -BX-AR, Dynalink RTA100 (Viking I), Dynalink RTA500-D51 (Viking II), Siemens E-010-I, Speed Modem 50, Speed Modem 100, Tenda TED8620R and probably many others; as well as folks with no pretence of owning anything even remotely similar, drop by with their router woes and triumphs. It's been a lot of fun. Check out the full story in the many hundreds (make that thousands! -ed) of comments.
I'm told the voyager pages are a good read for other network n00bs, too, so if you're looking to find out what a "Static IP" is, or learn a few proxy tricks, setup a webserver, or maybe just soak up some network basics, you may just find what you need right here. I'll let you be the judge.
As well as how to configure the voyager router, most folks seem to be looking for security and stealth, NAT rules (with examples), port-forwarding, and porn, well, apart from the porn, it's all here!
There's been some re-organising, splitting up the data into separate pages (please see the menu at the top), usually in response to the groovy comments at the foot, clarifying and expanding things as we go along, mainly so people don't have to keep asking the same questions over and again.
Fire away! but do bear in mind, if it's a technical issue that's already been covered here, the response is unlikely to be what you'd hoped for! At least run through the troubleshooting checklist before asking FAQs. Otherwise, feel free to add a comment, or just rant and flame. There's no such thing as a stupid question, though barney's come pretty close (hehe, just kiddin' dude! ;o)
meet the black box...
Model : Viking Name : voyager Domain Name : corz.ath.cx Description : DSL Modem Location : Aberdeen, Scotland Contact : cor.. https://corz.org Vendor : GlobespanVirata Inc.,100 Schulz Drive, Red Bank,NJ 07701,U.S.A LogThreshold: 1 Object-id : 1.3.6.1.4.1.50000 HwVersion : 810020 SwVersion : V1.1 DSL Version : Y1921a System Time : Sat Nov 27 14:11:44 2004 Time Zone : GMT DST : On Services : physical datalink internet end-to-end applications UpTime(HH:MM:SS) : 13:37:23 Backup Interval : Disable Power Required : 16V ~ 1A [16VA] AC
It's worth investing a little time in getting to know the unit, setting it up properly. With only a couple of simple commands you can create a hardware-firewalled, safe, internet-enabled LAN environment for your home or organisation. The box comes free with BT's current 1MB/2MB broadband package, possibly other packages. With free adsl connexion thrown in, it's actually not a bad deal. At least until the limits set in, circa May 2005. *sigh*
The BT Voyager 205 is a good wee box. As well as a simple USB modem (you won't need to remove that sticker, ever!), it's a "real" router, so you can just connect it to an ethernet switch and tada! your whole LAN has internet. No drivers required! I repeat: NO DRIVERS REQUIRED!!! The unit can act simultaneously as a router AND a modem, all by itself.
Using ethernet, the voyager works independently of any computer, so it doesn't matter if you're running OS X, BSD, Linux, Solaris, Classic Mac OS, Amiga OS, even Windows®; this box can act as your "always on" internet gateway. It's got NAT, a good IP filter firewall with stateful inspection (don't believe the rubbish they tell you elsewhere!), dhcp server, access control, comprehensive attack protection, automatic DUC, the works! It begs to be tweaked and hacked, and we've already discovered some useful undocumented functionality doing just that, as well as render at least one unit completely unusable!
NO USB past this point!
Before we go any further..If you insist on using USB to connect to the router, expect to a) have lots of trouble with your internet connexion, b) be ignored here when you ask perfectly reasonable questions, and c) spend a lot of time at the troubleshooting page, on your own! Simon says, "Get a NIC!", or words to that effect, which is a "Network Interface Card" and will cost around three bucks in any currency. We really did have a Simon that said that! Check the comments.
But Kev tells us that if you go into your Windows Device Manager (run "devmgmt.msc") and bring up the properties for your USB root hubs, and on the "Power Management" tab, UNcheck the box where it says "Allow the computer to turn off this device to save power", you may at least not have to suffer the thing cutting out every five minutes. This will keep you going until you get a switch!
Okay, NOW we can start..
Getting Started..
Ironically, the best way to begin hacking this thing, is to start with the web interface..http://192.168.1.1 (the preset default address, you can change this)
If you have a static IP on your puter, ensure you are in the same "subnet", in other words; 192.168.1.something (if your whole LAN uses static IP's and they are *not* on that subnet, you can change the IP of the router to match your LAN, though you will have to temporarily flip your computer's IP to 192.168.1.3 to alter the router's IP to 192.168.0.1 (or whatever), oh the pain! but you can also create "virtual" ethernet connexions, serving multiple subnets)
note: the 205, as supplied by BT comes insecure out of the box. I think BT imagined the ethernet port would be used only by XBox and PS2 gamers, or perhaps they wanted to drop in sometime. Anyway, the unit connects itself to your favourite ISP right at startup (remember this if you are trying to setup the 205 for different ISP, like Tiscali, or AOL (puleeze!) or whatever, you'll need to enter your login details before you connect the 205 to the phone line!) so first thing to set is..
set this to "High", which is better than it was, but not a lot. Apply, and Save your changes. (the oddly-placed red save button appears on all the advanced pages) now you can breathe a little while you get this thing properly secure and working the way you want it to. after enabling the basic security, setup any other stuff you understand, save again, then go to..
and click the 'Save Config' button, which will save the current configuration to your hard drive.
this exported file is no more than a list of cli commands for the voyager router. with this list of commands, you can recreate your router's current state at any time in the future. make a copy of that file, and start adding to it. Later you can upload it to the router via FTP, and use it as your default command set.
Let's Hack!
With our current configuration safely backed-up, we can start to really hack this thing.There are two schools of thought as to how best to approach this task. Some folk prefer GUI tools, and others prefer a command line. Each has advantages and disadvantages. The main disadvantage of the cute web interface gui is that only some of the pages are available, however we have overcome this and though I personally prefer to use the command line to configure my router, I have created a couple of tools allowing GUI fans to access the "hidden" pages of the web interface, where you can now get to most every setting you will ever need to tweak. It's certainly easier to view the results in the web interface, anyway.
Those page selector tools are right below this article, above the comments. Conveniently, you can also open them in a separate window, and if you save the resultant page to your hard drive, you can use these tools at home, even when you're offline. If you have a webserver with php running, source is also provided.
But it's from the command line that ALL the settings are available. The ability to drag & drop commands into a telnet session, not to mention its scriptability, makes the shell ideal for a job like this. There's something wholesome about plain text commands, a particular clarity. So let's open a telnet session..
telnet
Telnet is just a protocol, like FTP is. It allows you to run a command line on a remote machine (in this case, the router). All modern operating systems have a Telnet program built-in, usually called simply "telnet". Only via telnet can we access the router's raw command line, where commands can be typed directly into the router's brain.When I first dropped into the command line (from my mac) I was frustrated by the inability to delete characters, or move around with the arrow keys. One wee mistake, and BANG! you have to start again. I tried using Putty, and other tools on the peecee, but still the same effect, eventually I just accepted that it was "a router thing".
However, if you open a plain old telnet session from a plain old DOS box, at least on XP, you have a magic telnet session that allows all these things! BobR tells me it's because of the "Terminal Emulation" mode used, of course! XP defaults to the old DEC vt100 emulation, which works perfectly! Cheers Bob!
Scattered throughout this area of the site are clickable links (there's one coming right up) which will, in theory, open a telnet session on your machine. And if you are running windows, you'll likely get the same magic telnet session as me!
by default the router lives at 192.168.1.1 so go into your shell and do..
telnet 192.168.1.1 <-- click here to telnet into your router!
( note that inside my LAN "router" resolves to 192.168.1.1 )
The account login is the same as the web interface ( preset defaults are user: admin password: admin ) very secure! you can ftp in, too, but although there's lots to see, there's not a lot to do, at least, so far. we'll see. with the right firmware it might even do ssh.
On a mac, you can select any command line from this page (or your own script), drag it into your terminal (connected via telnet to the router, of course) and your hacks go live!
telnet tip: before you drag-and-drop, when you select the command, select the whole line, including the following line-break; then <enter> will be pressed for you as well. in bbedit, TextPad, EditPlus, etc., this can be achieved by simply clicking to the left of the line. (this also works in certain Linux desktop configurations) note: if you drag-and-drop from this page, make sure the example IP matches yours!
another tip: Ctrl-D will close most telnet/ssh sessions.
IMPORTANT: when you login to a telnet session, you will not see your password being entered, no asterixes, nothing, but for sure, it's going in just fine! Hit <enter> as normal, and you'll login without any problem. It's not broken, it's a security feature!
I've used greyed-out text here, to differentiate between the telnet commands and my comments, to (hopefully) make things clearer, at least, clearer than they were to me when I started messing with this thing this morning, getting most of my clues from Chinese web sites! they've had the Viking chipset a while, apparently. okay ...
In a telnet session with the router, you can type any command and then a space and then a ? to get help for that command, like this..
get ?which would produce a list of possible "get" commands, next you could do..
get ppp ?
for a list of "get ppp" commands, etc.. this tip will save you hours!?on it's own is the same as
helpwhich gets you a list of top-level commands.
use the UP key to recall the last input command. use this a lot!
after giving help, the cli puts that same command back on your current command line minus the "?", so you can build up long commands one command at a time, getting help all the way. neat. okay, first..
Stealth and Security..
You will probably want to begin by stealthing your router. A stealthed router sends a definite signal to any potential attacker, and also refuses to needlessly leak information about your computing environment. You can stealth a voyager 205 with just two simple commands..create ipf rule entry ruleid 5 dir out act accept storestate enable seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 500000 ifname public dir in act deny seclevel high medium low
Much better! a simple start. Now you got stealth, nothing's getting in! so if you want to run any servers, ftp server, web server, whatever, or effectively use any p2p application, you'll need to create individual rules to allow this inbound traffic, inserting them numerically between the two magic stealth rules above. an example BitTorrent rule..
create ipf rule entry ruleid 6881 ifname public dir in act accept destport range 6881 6899 transprot eq tcp seclevel high medium lowAfter dropping in another rule for the±wire it looks something like this..
this screen is here ..
You might want to enable standard attack protections..
modify fwl global blistprotect enable attackprotect enable dosprotect enablethese should be on by default, do check your model/settings (and exported .cfg file).
who da bad boys? ..
get fwl blacklistto delete a firewall rule..
delete ipf rule entry ruleid 6881check out the stealth page for a great deal more information about stealthing your router, including important notes on firewall testing.
NAT (not an insect)
If there are a few or more users in your home/business/organisation, you'll likely want give them all internet access. broadband was made for sharing. this is where NAT comes in. NAT, or "Network Address Translation" is simply a way for multiple "private" computers to share a single "public" IP address.The NAT "gateway" (our beloved BT voyager 205) translates all the outbound requests from our individual "private" computers (called 192.168.1.whatever, safely inside our Local Area Network, or "LAN") and alters the packets so they appear to originate from a single "public" IP address (which is all the folk on the outside can see). When the requested packets return, the NAT reverses the translation, and routes the data back to the originating "private" machine. clever stuff.
Because the Voyager can apply "stateful inspection", inbound packets are examined on arrival, and only those packets we requested are forwarded on inside the LAN. Essentially nothing gets through the NAT unless we asked for it first, or, like the BitTorrent rule above, we specifically open up a port.
So first we.. NAT everything!
create nat rule entry ruleid 100000 naptI recently discovered that the voyager has a hidden NAT rule which does exactly this. Mine is rule ID no. 4294967295 ! I still add my own though, where I can see it.
port forwarding.. maximum 20 rules!
After opening ports to allow inward traffic, you need to route that traffic to a particular "private" computer inside your network. To do achieve this, we use port forwarding. It does exactly what is says on the can, forwarding the data packets on to the private machine.In order for this to work as expected, your private machines (machines at this side of the firewall) need to have "Static IP's". Most computers will, by default, get their IP address dynamically, that is, it will be assigned by the gateway computer, which is our router (aye, there's a wee computer inside there!). You'll need to ensure that dynamic IP addressing (dhcp) is disabled on your computer, and you have instead manually assigned a static IP to the computer, probably something like 192.168.1.3. For more information on how to do that, see here.
It could be argued that "my computer always gets assigned 192.168.1.3", but that's asking for trouble when, six months down the line, you add a laptop to the network and suddenly all your firewall rules stop working, and it takes you six hours of troubleshooting to figure out why! If you need DHCP, mindfully create a special pool of addresses, for "guests", or whatever. In a discipline with so many variables (networking) it makes a great deal of sense to convert as many as possible to constants. So with your target machine at a fixed, reliable, constant address; let's do it..
This example NAT rule will forward all inbound bittorrent traffic to a machine at IP address 192.168.1.3..
create nat rule entry ruleid 6881 rdr prot num 6 lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.3 lcladdrto 192.168.1.3 destportfrom num 6881 destportto num 6889Something very similar would work for any p2p application and protocol; eMule, edonkey, kazaa, LimeWire, WinMX, Gnutella, Direct Connect, etc, etc. same for servers; FTP server, Web Server, whatever.
check out the recipes page for lots more details and a whole bag of ready-made NAT rules!
As well as simple redirection, you can create different kinds, or "flavours" of NAT rule, and put ranges of ports into one rule, too. handy, because you can only have twenty rules maximum. you can also create IP ranges (aka round-robin), more useful for sharing load on multiple servers. check out the PDF's at the foot for an almost complete list of all the NAT, and many many other rules.
A simple NAT configuration might look like this..
click the magnifying glass to look at stuff close up..
you'd think the "global address to" would need to be 255.255.255.255, but the voyager doesn't seem to care. I guess when neither are specified it just presumes you mean everything.
you can do..
create nat rule entry ?for a list of all the NAT options. You can delete a nat port forwarding rule like this..
delete nat rule entry ruleid 6881If you are looking for a particular solution, it's probably on the recipes page!
If not, consider making a donation, and request that it be added!
essential tweaks..
ppp link...
Enable ppp keepalive..modify ppp global keepalive enableppp sessions time-out after thirty minutes inactivity. let's change that..
modify ppp global pppsesstimer nevertimeout(for v1.8 firmware, replace "nevertimeout" with "99999")
time to live..
modify ip cfg ttl 64 network connexion limits...
The maximum number of IP sessions the modem can manipulate simultaneously is 512. the default is 192, let's fix that..modify nbsize maxipsess 512note: if you have upgraded to the v1.8 firmware (which I have not) you can only set that to 511, not 512.
for gamers..
Opening and closing lots of connexions quickly (like some p2p apps and most networked games do) can fill up that connexion table pretty fast, because you open new connexions before you have closed the old ones. exactly how long the old connexions stay open is up to you..modify nat global tcpidletimeout 3600 tcpclosewait 45 tcptimeout 30 udptimeout 90those are the default setting, but you can probably get off with using much lower values, especially if you search for game servers a lot, something like these..
modify nat global tcpidletimeout 1800 tcpclosewait 30 tcptimeout 10 udptimeout 15or even less. Every setup is slightly different; experimentation is the key to success. There are other parameters that may be set, too, for more details, open a telnet session with your router and do..
modify nat global ?replace a time server entry..
modify sntp cfg disable
delete sntp servaddr dname Time.apple.com
create sntp servaddr dname pool.ntp.org
modify sntp cfg enable
get sntp statsetc..
Get stats on stuff..get system
get nat stats
get ip stats
get sntp stats
get pfraw stats
get ethernet stats
get fwl stats
get dsl stats curr
get user
get ipf sessioncreate a new user..
create user name boss passwd mypassword root alg rules...
"Application Layer Gateways" are clever things, allowing you to run IRC and ICQ clients, FTP servers and the like without endless firewall hassles, thanks to the 205's "stateful inspection" mechanisms. Most of the common ones are already in place, but if you need something special, you can add it yourself.This example would allow you to connect successfully to an IRC server running on a non-standard port, in this case port 7000..
create alg port portno 7000 prot num 6 algtype mirc more than just for fun...
modify system contact "cor, https://corz.org"
modify system location "Aberdeen, Scotland"
modify system dname "corz.ath.cx"
modify system name "Starship Voyager 205"you can do them all at once, too..
modify system contact "cor, https://corz.org/" location "Aberdeen, Scotland" dname "corz.ath.cx" name "Starship Voyager 205"Would be fun to have a finger server on the unit, presenting this info to whoever asks. For more of these sorts of fun and games, don't forget to check out the tips & tricks page! (Hacks for Dynamic DNS, alternative DNS servers, ping, traceroute, custom logging and much more!)
cool it!
This box runs hot. There's enough anecdotal evidence going around to suggest that when things start to wonk out, heat can be a factor. In short, keep it somewhere cool, like under a window, or sit some nice flat-bottomed, metal object on top of it to act as a heat-sink, or both..
If you REALLY want to cool it, check out this.
lastly..
Don't forget to check out the router directory in my public archive for many interesting files ( including PDF's containing ALL the possible commands), firmware utilities, patches, shell scripts, and much more..https://corz.org/public/docs/comms/router/
you can download the main two directly, here..
if you don't have a PDF viewer, you'll need to..
;o) corz.org
ps.. the original protective sticker is still stuck over the USB socket of the Voyager 205,
and it's going to stay that way, too!
Useful Links..
click this link to go directly to your router
your router's built-in help system
collection of useful things
You go click, and the router goes, well, it just goes!
Goan save yourself four weeks of headaches!
don't even go there!
top class telnet client
weird solutions
and a great OS, to boot!
try the "Outils traduits" link
potentially useful (rta100+) software & firmware
useful free IP scanner, for finding lost routers
if you want to know what ports to open for what games
Before you ask a question..
PLEASE ensure you have at least run through the troubleshooter at the foot of the troubleshooting page and checked EVERYTHING!
Note: If your router isn't a Voyager 205, go here.
Please note: comments on this page are now disabled: but that doesn't mean I want you to mail me with your router troubles! If you want my time, the PayPal button is in the top-right of all pages!
NOTE: If you load this page with ALL comments, you will probably find someone has already asked your question, and been answered.
thanks
re:yr explanation of port forwarding. very concise and to the point...excellent! me been a total noobie it didn't mean that much to me tho. don't suppose its possible to put into noobie layman's terms is it??? do i need to set up a static i.p as well?? keep up the good work.
sean.
ps...the ports i'll be trying to open are..bittorrent,winmx, and prob one for battlefield 1942. don't know if you needed to know that, but there you go. cheers.
you can adapt these rules to cover any port, just pick one, say the Gnutella rule, and replace every occurence of 6346 with whatever port you need. different games use different ports, so check the game's manual. Also you may need UDP rules instead of TCP. (UDP is faster, I'd imagine many games use this)
There are different flavours of NAT rules, too, open a telnet session with the router and mess about with them. do..
create nat rule entry ?to see all the possible options. I'm no gamer, so if you learn anything interesting, share it back!I've added a wee note about NAT, which will shed some more light on things. Being a noob is good, you've got so much fun ahead!
remember to
commitfor now..
;o)
thanx for advice, you've been a great help. looking forward to getting some speedy downloads now. cheers.
sean
thats great. thanx v much for advice. looking forward to them speedy downloads now. cheers......sean
och, I enjoy it!
As for static IP's, generally, if you never need anything other than basic internet (web/email) access, leaving the defaults (at least for most OS it is the default) of dynamic IP's (dhcp) is just fine.
But as soon as you start to want to do anything, like run multiplayer games, or servers, or interesting communications devices, static IP's starts to make a whole lot more sense.
Check out my stuff on hosts in the /serv/ section of corz.org. Static IP's doesn't always have to mean long ugly numbers! For instance, in my own LAN, the other machines know my mac as "imac".
;o)
Looks like i'm another noob as far as routers/ststic ip's and port forwarding is concerned! I've tried following all this and have attempted some of the instructions without much success!
I'm running a mixture of Kazaa Lite Revolution, eMule & use SuprNova as well. One thing I have noticed is that whenever I try to run eMule, my Outlook and Interent Explorer cease to connect!
What I don't understand is why everyone else get great upload speeds from me whilst I cannot get the downloads!
These instructions have been very clear and concise but I think I'm just to inexperienced as far as networking and routers are concerned!
HELP!!! lol
True, these instructions do assume a working knowledge of certain concepts. reading it over again more slowly is good, we humans often need to do this with "new" material. you'll find a little more information soaks in each time.
If you are experiencing good upload speeds (others downloading from you) then at least it looks like the port forwarding worked! I notice kazaa lite revolution now uses port 3392 by default rather than 1214. you can change these things in its prefs, I'd imagine.
The key is experimentation and determination. very little of this worked first time for me, either! how far have you got?
;o)
I have set up what I believe to be the correct NAT Rules to handle the port forwarding but it doesn't seem to have made any difference.
I think perhaps I need to understand the principles a little better first.
Maybe a stupid question but how does my static IP address fit into all this?
Is traffic that the various programs direct to their own port numbers all meant to be directed to my static IP or vice versa?
Also, Bit Torrent sites do not seem to have port settings on them so how does the router handle these? Or am I missing something very obvious here?
Any thoughts on why my Outlook and Internet Explorer fail to connect when I am running eMule?
It's trying my patience so I hope I am not trying yours! lol
First the ports. you have 65536 of them, we all do, well, our computers. Some are familiar numbers; port 80, world wide web; port 21, FTP, etc. By default, BitTorrent uses ports 6881-6889, but you can use whichever ports you like, so long as you alter your firewall/NAT rules to match them.
Your BitTorrent client announces your current incoming port to the tracker (one per torrent) and that is the port on which other torrent clients will attempt to connect to you. It doesn't matter what port you use for BitTorrent, so long as you create firewall/NAT rules allowing traffic on that same port.
The main reason we have "default" ports is simply to prevent global confusion and network bottlenecks. A web server could easily run on port 5735 or whatever, but having them all running on port 80 (mostly) allows us to configure firewalls and create web browsers without the whole show going completely haywire. having separate port numbers for different kinds of traffic allows us to organise things more effectively, too. On most unix systems, for instance, running a server on any port below 1024 requires "root" privileges.
A Static IP is simply a "fixed" address where other machines on your LAN can find you, like a telephone number. Most computers on the internet have a static IP that we use to find them. Google is 216.239.57.99, and typing http://216.239.57.99/ into your browser will take you straight to google. Fortunately we have DNS to translate these numbers into cute names. That is google's "public" IP (one of them), behind their NAT is probably a thousand sepearate machines, each with different "private" IP's, but we don't see those.
Inside your own LAN, you can use whatever numbers and names you like, so long as all your own boxes (including your router) can find each other, it doesn't matter too much how you achieve it.
Your router uses this private IP address to route incoming connexions to your individual computer. When an incoming packet arrives at your public IP, that is, your outside IP (currently 217.42.237.***), destined for port 6881, our router checks the firewall rules; Yes, that port is allowed, then it checks the NAT rules, to find out where to send the incoming data packet. In my case; it redirects it to a machine at 192.168.0.4. The router will only do what it's told to do.
As for the eMule/Outlook issue, firstly I would recommend getting a decent email client, and if that doesn't fix it, ask the dudes at the eMule project, they may already be aware of the issue. I don't think it's a router problem.
And don't worry about my patience; it's endless!
;o)
Well as a newbie i at first found it all quite daunting hey but I just followed your commands and bingo I have a stealthed machine that works great and have backed up this config for future use.
Much appreciated
barney
Would appreciate a Janet and John guide to setting up a static IP for one machine just to make sure I have actioned correctly
Thanks once again
barney
the rules you need for eMule are..
firewall:
create ipf rule entry ruleid 4662 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq num 6 destport eq num 4662 seclevel high medium lowcreate ipf rule entry ruleid 4672 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq num 17 destport eq num 4672 seclevel high medium low
nat:
create nat rule entry ruleid 4662 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.0.4 lcladdrto 192.168.0.4 destportfrom num 4662 destportto num 4662create nat rule entry ruleid 4672 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.0.4 lcladdrto 192.168.0.4 destportfrom num 4672 destportto num 4672
I installed it on a peecee this morning. all eMule port tests passed, High User ID, Kad "open". it's a nice app, impressive.
;o)
great news barney!
To setup a static IP on a windows machine, open the properties for your LAN connection (control panel > Network Connections (on XP)) and go to the "General" tab. Select "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)" and click "Properties"
Then click "Use the following IP Address" and enter in your desired numbers, likely..
IP Address 192.168.1.3 (or whatever you desire)
Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway 192.168.1.1
for your two nameservers use..
192.168.1.1
212.159.11.150
You can add more nameservers in the "Advanced" dialog, but shouldn't need to.
This presumes you have the router at its default IP of 192.168.1.1. If not, alter the address to suit. (mine is 192.168.0.1)
If you run Mac OS X, these settings are in the System Preferences, "Network" settings. On Linux you just edit the hosts file. That's it!
have fun!
;o)
ps.. give my regards to Betty!
everything still working ok after many reboots although only getting local connections when using torrent system I had static ip correct thanks for the calibration.
Any idea on local problem, i have set client to 6881.
betty says hi!
best
barney
"local connections". explain.
;o)
ps.. feel free to jump into my site chat about this!
have downloaded wire can it talk to
a mac from pc? will chat when you have the time
best
barney
My Word I wish I had Putty yesterday?
best
barney
Hi Guys,
How could I use dynamic dns options on voyager 205?
I tried this way:
"create ddns hostname name myhome.example.org ifname ppp-0"
How could I give the username and password of my dyndns account?
Thanks for your help :)
AgentGates
yeah barney, Putty is da shitz!
to chat; there's a link under my smiley (almost invisible) in the right of the toolbar at the top of this page, and the±wire, of course, which keeps all the puters in my LAN talking to each other. mac to pc, no problem!
of course, I'm not always on the other end.
As for the ddns, Woah! DUC capabilities! I didn't even realise it could do DUC! neat. TZO works for sure, dunno about other service providers. There's nothing about it in any references I have, but in a telnet session I just got this..
very interesting! go mess about with that lot!
I'll have a play with this shortly myself, see if it can do my no-ip.org for me. that would be very handy!, one less job for the puters. this router just gets better every day!
thanks for the heads-up!
for now..
;o)
it works!
it only works with tzo.com or dyndns.org, but it does work!. cool!
you can create multiple dynamic DNS entries, too. here's my wee lot..
w00h00! I got DNS!
for now..
;o)
Hello Cor
So I wiped out all my settings in the ipf filter and
added your suggestions, plus opened the ports for
for Bittorrent and Shareaza so that gives me 4 entries
in the ip filter.
No problem per se with downloading in BitComet, however
all my connections are local.
I think this explains whats happening
(initiate connections with other peers (known as local connections, or L), you are not able to receive connections initiated from other peers (known as remote connections, or R). When you are not able to receive remote connections, this is nearly always to do with incorrectly forwarded ports, from your router or firewall.)
Mind the way the torrent scene is at the moment its probably
going to be unneccesary!!
Can you help please
Best
barney
ahhh, your bittorrent connexions! right! well, I've been torrenteering pretty much since BitTorrent appeared, and although I've noticed that (in a few clients) you can get this information; whether a peer is "local" or "remote"; it's never been a factor. If you can get a green light, good upload speeds, then everything is just fine!.
I'd always imagined the L/R thing meant, local; we are directly connected to a peer, or, remote; we are indirectly connected to a peer (as your box can only directly connect to so many peers). or something like that. I haven't really thought about it much.
What is seems to mean is, local; I connected to them, and remote; they connected to me. I usually have a mix of both; the linux distro I'm grabbing right now is mostly local connexions, and coming down (and up) very quickly, so this definitely ain't broke! If you use the rules from this page, you should have green lights all the way.
You may have noticed that grc.com now does custom port scans, so you can easily check your incoming connexion capabilities..
Fire up a torrent, check which port it's using for incoming connexions (in the "advanced" page if you have one in your client, or by doing a netstat or some other app(lication) that can display your listening ports), and then scan that same port from grc.com. just enter the port number into the text input between the two silver bars for the "User specified custom probe". pretty neat.
Ideally it will show "open!" Failed! Although in our case of course, it's a success!
;o)
Good Morning cor
Thanks for that checked out 6881
while running Bitcomet Gibson says
port fully stealthed. Health says 800%
(I assume this means the same as a
green light)download speeds significantly
lower than uploads all connections are L
no R,s when I used to have a mixed
collection before stealthing.
Heres a doozy for you, switched of my
router during the past two nights.(hot)
When I restarted and checked the IP filter
instead of just the 4 rules 5, 6881, 6346
and 50000 it had generated rules 10,11,
12,31,32,50,51,52,70,71,72,90,91 and 92
after correcting after the first night I also
changed passwords in case BT had, had
a peak.What has happened? any ideas?
Thanks again
best
barney
damn! I knew there was something I forgot to post when I killed forefox last night. 30-odd open tabs and too much bloody shockwave flash.. och, just eff off will ya! oops.
erm. Stealth is BAD! at least for our BitTorrent ports. We're looking to have that port WIDE OPEN!
First, ensure that really is the port on which you are currently accepting connexions. It changes for each torrent, some clients even "randomize" the incoming port, so you need to ascertain that immediately before testing. or is that "assertain"?
I don't know what 800% health is, sounds like Duke Nukem! It's a client-specific thing, for sure. On my peecee I generally use BitTornado, the bittorrent client formerly known as "Shadow's experimental BitTorrent client", an interesting fork from the maim BitTorrent source. It has a traffic light system for reporting torrent health, which I like a lot.
I too experienced the router's automatic rule creation just the other night. I'm guessing it's something in the BT firmware. Perhaps an unofficial firwmare flash would resolve. At any rate, so long as your own rules, partcularly the last one, are still in place, these automatic rules not a problem. They just clutter up the page a bit.
keep 'em coming!
;o)
by the way..
if you use a peecee for your torrenteering, especially if you use BitTornado, you might want to grab this.
As well as the cool concept menu customisations and icons, etc, you get my own custom traffic lights!
have fun!
;o)
I think I may have found out why emule craps-out all your other internet applications, at least a possible cause, for Snoopy, and others..
Apparently, XP's SP2 update limits the total number of tcp/ip connexions on your machine. some say this is to curb p2p usage, others a "security measure", but whatever, the maximum number of simultaneous connexions, even half-open connexions per port, is now TEN! one zero. yup.
you can get more info, and a patch, here. I haven't tested this. let me know if it's useful.
for now..
;o)
hi i have followed your rules and im still gettin yellow light and crap speeds on bittornado, i used to have a xoom router and never had these troubles? any chance of some help?
I got this router and a BT adsl link. I'm suprised to hear you can connect the router to your LAN and all works well. My peecee connects to the router via a direct (ethernet) cable. When I try to insert my hub between the two, the router simply fails to connect. The hub (and router) connection leds tell me there's no connection.
Perhaps this is because I haven't set up any NAT rules yet? I do use static IPs, and (with the router connected directly - sigh) I can connect to the internet. But I have other puters to share the connection... so would like to connect the router via the hub.
Any ideas?
Cheers
jay, if you have followed the rules, the firewall/nat rules that is, and you're still getting a yellow light it means one of two things. a) you didn't exactly follow the rules, or b) there's another firewall somewhere, maybe your operating system's built-in firewall. obviously, if your setup is different, different IP range, whatever, then you can't follow the rules exactly, but ensure the imporant bits are still the same!
to all; the grc.com custom port scan is an invaluable tool. use it! let's say I have allowed all incoming connections between ports 6881-6899. with no torrents running, and no nat rules created, the grc scan will show these ports not as stealthed, but as "closed". Adding NAT rules won't change this; they will still show as "closed". so far so good.
But as soon as you launch a torrent, you now have a "listening" service on that port, and the port will read "open". GOOD! Unless you can scan yourself and get "open" for your current torrent port, you can forget any hope of a green light/"remote" connexions. When I was first setting up my router, I must have performed dozens of such scans.
Country, your trouble all likley stems around that piece of equipment fondly known as a "hub". "connecting the router to switch box" and "connecting the router to a hub" are not the same thing! Relying on a "hub" is just soldering all your CAT-5 cables together and hoping for the best!
Get a "switch". These days network switches are dirt cheap. you often see them going on ebay for very silly money. A switch is a whole different breed of device from a hub. For a start, a switch knows the addresses of the devices connected to it, and routes incoming data to the correct destination, whereas a hub just sprays it everywhere.
Once you have a decent switch, you just plug the router into it, and let it do its job. I'm on record as saying my switch box was the most important piece of computer gear I ever bought, and that's totally true; myriad networking "issues" dissolved the day I installed it. (twenty quid, brand new from Maplins)
With a well setup router, and a good switch, your ADSL is truly "always on" and you just add as many computers as you need! If you run out of sockets on your switch, simply connect another one, and another, and so on, ad infinitum.
Dump the hub, get a switch.
;o)
Hello, noob here
Anyone know the right settings to setup the BT Voyager 205 Router so I can use my comp as a Ftp server ?
Thanks to all that can help
hi noob,
I haven't tried this yet, but I reckon if you open ports 20 (ftp control) and 21 (ftp data) you should be good to go.
If you want to allow clients to use "passive" FTP, you'll need to define a port range for that (probably something high in the tens of thousands) and create another rule for that range. Remember to set the same range in your ftp server software.
Also remember to create router NAT rules to route the traffic to whatever machine the ftp server is running on. With any luck, one of the 205's ALG's might kick in and work in reverse!
Let us know how it goes.
;o)
cor, Thank you so much for the reply.
I had no problems to setup a ftp server before only just sins I got an ADSL with a router.
I know how to setup a server with ftp server software but what I dont know is what the right settings are to create router NAT rules and how to open the right ports for this ?
hi
im goiong crazy... trying to use my playstation 2 through my voyager 205 router to play online tiger woods 2005... but.. i cant connect to all other bt users and some other network users... the manual mentions about data ports UDP 3658/3659 and UDP 6000/6001 .. can anybody please advise me on what i can do... have been on phone to bt and they not much help .. many thanks
noob, the firewall and NAT rules on this page (for instance, the BitTorrent rules) should work just fine, simply alter the port numbers to whatever you need. if that doesn't work, get back here.
ash, I know that you can use a playstation 2 to watch DVD's, that's about it! If it were mine, I'd probably start by assigning a static IP to the unit, and then putting that IP into a DMZ, or "DeMilitarized Zone". This is an unprotected zone, especially for servers and consoles.
I'm guessing there's some kind of network setup in the PS2? perhaps a separate disk, perhaps part of the game, dunno. but if you can get the PS2 to have a static IP, it's a piece of cake to throw that IP into a DMZ rule, even with the router's web interface. ( Advanced >> IP Routing )
You may also need to create a firewall rule to allow all UDP and TCP traffic in and out of the DMZ; put it late on in your ruleset, after your regular rules and before the final rule, and simply allow everything, officially, the ports you need for the new Tiger Woods, are.. 0 - 65535
anyways, once your PS2 is (un)safely in the DMZ, all your games should work without further tweaking.
have fun!
;o)
ps.. the DMZ is ONLY for games consoles and highly secure Mac OS X/BSD type serving rigs, don't be tempted to put your regular peecee in there unless a) it contains no personal/private/suspect data whatsoever (basically, anything you don't want the world to see) and b) isn't connected to any other machines that contain personal/private data. For a purely games-only rig, though, it's an interesting option.
Go on Cor give us a Janet And John
with pictures how to set up a
games consul please
best
barney
betty says hi
I want to have a web server (there's no problem here), but when put my dinamyc ip (Ej. 200.121.39.29), it is the router modem direction, I want to redirect all incoming requests to my machine http://192.168.1.2:8080.
I hope someone can help me...
Regards
what a great xmas present finding this site was.
Ive been trying to get Green Lights on my bt client for weeks, nothing but slow downloads.
Ive used your nat mapping rules, but still got yellow.
I opend the ports in Kerio Firewall, still yellow.
Tryed patching tcpip.sys to allow more tcpip connections, and could not get any internet activity. put original Tcpip.sys back, and at least use my broser again. Looked at my Localarea connection properties and found a firewall hiding under the advanced button. where the heck did this come from? disabled it and, WOW, GREEN all the way. Now getting max download speeds. I can use the grc.com port scanner to watch the ports open and close as bt need them, bill. i feel like ive got control of my PC at last. Thank you, ive learned SOOOO much from this one page.
PS.
I had SP2 installed, and uninstalled it, back on SP1 now, maybe uninsaller leaves a firewall behind?
PS2, as much as I'd love to give you a full-blown how-to on setting up a networked PS2, I don't have the hardware to test it out. I had a wee scout about and I know that there's "Network Setup Disk" that comes with the PS2 (or perhaps it's optional) that allows you to set a static IP on the PS2. From there, you're on your own, though there's enough probably data on this page to figure it out.
Of course, if someone were to send me a PS2 ...***
web server..
create ipf rule entry ruleid 8080 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq num 6 destport eq num 8080 seclevel high medium low
create nat rule entry ruleid 8080 rdr prot num 6 lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.2 lcladdrto 192.168.1.2 destportfrom num 8080 destportto num 8080
That would work. It assumes your public address also uses port 8080, in other words, folk use that to connect to your web server. (ie. they type
http://your.address:8080into their browser) I'm fairly sure it would be possible to have incoming regular web connexions (justhttp://your.address) routed to your local port 8080, too, which might be preferable.Those two rules (except with port 80 instead of 8080) work great for me, though. (I tested this the other night, toying with a back-up for my very shakey web host). So long as you give folks the correct "public" address (remember you can use the 205 to do your Dynamic DNS for you automatically) they should get to your server just fine.
I'm guessing you are using an original viking voyager as you are in Latin America. The commands should be the same, though. Have fun!
SP2, thanks Paul, there sure is a lot squeezed into this page, so much that I'll probably need to reorganise it before we're done. Anyways, although windows XP SP2 seems more focused on security, the XP built-in firewall is a "feature" of even the original XP, and is best disabled altogether using "services.msc", the windows service control centre. (enter that at a run command (win-R) or go into "Administratve Tools" in the Programs menu - the admin tools sub-menu can be activated from the start menu properties, btw. *phew*)
If you need a local firewall on your windows machine (and with the router setup correctly, you really don't) I recommend ZoneAlarm (preferably pro version). The only reason I can think of running a local firewall behind a secure router is to prevent outgoing connexions, and there Zone does a great job. The XP firewall allows all outgoing connexions by default, and this can't be changed. syat.
;o)
1: Yeah, I'm serious! Also send a networkable game!
pdf protection update!
I have removed the protection from the two pdf technical manuals. You can now copy the text to the clipboard, drag-and-drop into your telnet session, etc, etc, just as one would expect from a technical manual. I mean, what was going through their minds?
If anyone has a problem with this, feel free to be ignored at the usual email address.
;o)
cor:
How can you list the rules & rules information saved on a 205 through the cli?
Thanks
answer: use the web interface..
tada! note, what gets saved will be the commands at the last commit or "save" from the web interface. If you make changes, remember to commit before you save the backup.
I'm repeating this information because I only just found out that you need to commit before you save, if you want your new changes in the file.
okay, I've got some drinking to do.
have a merry one!
;o)
Hi again, thanks for your answer, I've created the rules
like you suggest me, but when
I try to connect (Ex. http://200.107.153.111:8080) it gets
an error, "Connection refused" and if I put
http://200.107.153.111:XXX (XXX, is the port for modem router's web interface administration) there's no problem, Throught
web interface, I saw that Operation Status is in "red",
it doesn't display like the image you show up there (Operation
Status in green).
This are some screenshots
I get my current ip throught this test site
I wait your answer, I've been trying for a while but as you
can see, without any positive results
Regards
okay, first the red lights.
the reason your operation status lights are red, and mine are green, is because you have no security level set. or rather, it is set to "none". this is how it works..
there are three security levels, four if you include "none", which equates to "off". when you create rules, you can assign a security level to that rule, the idea being that you can switch between different security states. rules which are active at the current security level are green, this which are inactive (though may become active if you increased the security level) are red.
in reality, almost no one will need or use this, and it's best to just create rules that are active in ALL the security levels, and then it doesn't matter which security level you choose, they are all the same, thereby reducing this tedious functionality to a simple, sensible on/off switch.
your firewall is off. that is why the rules are inactive.
now your web server..
Assuming you are still at the IP you used to post here, attempting to connect brings up a password login box, and when I cancelled it (after trying a few standard passwords, of course) I got a "Protected Object This object on the RomPager server is protected" which some routers will throw at you after you enter the password incorrectly many times, so I probably wasn't the first to try! (there's no such thing as a "secret" webserver)
I grabbed the raw source code, from that I figured out what modem it is, and then I checked the manufacturer's website and got the default user/password combo, and I am, at this very second, looking at your router configuration page!!!.
get some security!
then remove IPF rule 5, it's messing things up!
;o)
ps.. I also successfully opened a telnet session!
another thing..
you'll need to disable the WAN access for web/telnet/ftp. not only because it's crazy insecurity, but also the web interface would most likely over-ride your efforts to route incoming web traffic.
;o)
hey! it's my page! I can post as much as I like!
another thing, you need an outgoing firewall rule at the top of your ruleset. maybe that's what rule 5 was trying to be, but wasn't. check my examples above.
I'll be back..
;o)
Hi Cor :).
I cannot seem to get any p2p filesharing programs to work with my voyager 205 modem, despite following the instructions listed here. I tried opening UDP and TCP ports on both the web-interface and through telnet, using various ports and specifying them within the p2p program, but i am still unable to search files/transfer files. Also, i am unable to play certain online games since transferring to adsl from cable. Could you possibly talk me through how to open ports to allow p2p programs such as ed2k and direct connect? once i get the just of it i should be fine.
Thanks in advance!
@cor
I notice with your examples you've managed to delete the default ipf ruleset, more specifically rules 10 thru 92. Have you managed to make this permanant (survive thru reset/reboot) and if so how?
Have tried deleting these via the http and telnet interface but when issuing commit/save the router throws back an internal system error.
Tbh not sure where this ruleset is actually created from, but it's definitely not the commitedcfg.cfg or the TEFacs.dat.
Any insight greatly appreciated.
cor:
I'm trying to create rules so that Apple's iChat AV traffic can pass in/out of the Voyager 205 from/to a number of Macs on the inside with static IPs.
For outgoing traffic I have entered the following into the Voyager cli for one of the ports:
create nat rule entry ruleid 5 rdr prot udp lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.50
lcladdrto 192.168.1.60 destportfrom num 5060 destportto num 5060
lclport num 5060
which results in the following from the web interface:
NAT Rule - Detail
NAT Rule Information
Rule ID: 5
Rule Flavor: Virtual Server
IF Name: ALL
Protocol: UDP
Local Address From: 192.168.1.50
Local Address To: 192.168.1.60
Global Address From: 0.0.0.0
Global Address To: 0.0.0.0
Destination Port From: 5060
Destination Port To: 5060
Local Port: 5060
Does this look right to you? Is there any need for the "lclport num 5060" entry or is that superfluous?
There are a number of ports to open for outgoing packets (5060, 5190, 5297, 5298, 5353, 5678, 16384-16403) but I'm confused by Apple's terminology; they refer to "internal source ports" & "external destination ports". The ports I've mentioned are internal source ports & the external destination ports are 1024-65535. How should these be configured in the Voyager?
Lastly, for incoming packets I need to open the opposite; external source ports 1024-65535 & internal destination ports of 5060, 5190, 5297, 5298, 5353, 5678, 16384-16403. How are these configured in the Voyager?
Thanks for your time & enjoy the new year.
John
hi cor:
this is a great page, thanks for the information. I was actually dumping my voyager 205 and buying another router because of the lack of the technical information. I have a few problems with my router I wonder if you can help
1- when I open the router's config manager on IE6 I get the quickstart page, and clicking on any other links doesn't load anything, I tried netscape nav, worked fine, but after a while the dsl overview doesn't load (clicking the link doesn't do anything)
2- can the router log any activities, if yes where can I access those log files.
3- the router is connected to a switch with 3 computers 192.168.1.4 - 6, sometime when I reboot two simultanously the router hangs up with all lights on, or when I reboot to a different OS (I have dual boot on all pcs) the router disconnects from BT (i.e when I open the config manager the quick view displays username and password to connect) this is particularly annoying because whenever the disconnects I get a different ip address from bt, but i want to keep connected as long as possible
Thanks for your help and the great webpage
Matt, hopefully my new recipes page (see new links at top of this page) will have your answer, but more likely, you have another firewall somewhere, like the XP built-in firewall. check that.
PapA , no, I haven't managed to make it permanent, like I said above, it seems to be something in the firmware, perhaps a firmware flash would fix it.
Having said that, it doesn't put back all the rules, just some of them, and they are quick enough to delete in a telnet session if you really want to (I do!), and leaving them in would do no harm, either.
My router has been on (and connected) for over two weeks, though, and I don't envisage rebooting it, ever! Well, if I can help it.
Duffus, you got some fun ahead!
okay, firstly, you do not have to configure for outgoing packets, the first rule takes care of that, thanks to the "stateful inspection"
The ports you need to configure for incoming connexions, are (as far as I know, I don't unse iChat)..
5060 (UDP)
5190 (TCP) file sharing
16384-16403 (UDP) video conferencing
Just how specifying a range of local IP's for these services is going to work, I have no idea. This facility is really for sharing load across web servers (and similar) and works in a round-robin fashion. It's unlikely that this will make for successful iChat for multiple clients, but possibly the stateful inspection will compensate for this. test test test.
the lclport is usually used to translate incoming requests from, say, a web client connecting to port 80, to a private server at, say port 8080. you shouldn't need this.
Lastly, consider using ALG rules for iChat, for instance the NetMeeting ALG might be useful.
omer
1. the ie thing; sounds like you have a local firewall with "javascript protection" or similar funtionality. check that and disable. or use another browser.
2. yes, you can send the log output to a log daemon running on another machine. see above for clues.
3. highly unusual. I reboot my machines, plug and unplug them (even unplug them all from the switch), you name it, the router never waivers. It can connect to the net by itself and doesn't need any computers to do its stuff. Hmm.. make sure your USB cable isn't plugged in anywhere!
for now..
;o)
ps.. check the new links at the top, I'll probably add to these as we go along.
Thx for that, I have a spare router so might try one of the firmware releases on the solwise site, hopefully this might replace the <sarcasm>amazingly detailed web interface </sarcasm>, if it actually works
I, for one, will be most interested in the results of that firmware flash!
See, with the 205 being my only broadband router, I'm too chicken to go messing about with its firmware, so PapA, you da man!
Go for it!
;o)
Don't try this at home kids ;)
I now have a new paperweight
Like I say it was a spare and more importantly a cost free spare.
Pheeeew.
It will make a fine paperweight, I reckon.
och well, it proves a few things; bt suck, you are brave, my intuition was right, erm, what else? oh yeah, unnoficial firmware is a Very Bad Idea! Don't try this at home kids!!!
Have you tried the reset switch? (the one that needs a pin to push) might be worth a shot. there may also be a way to get the original firmware back in, too, maybe connecting it to another 205, or something. erm.
you may want to send that 205 to me! as a sort of experimental test unit, ye never know..
;o)
hi there cor i wonder if you could help me with a problem i'm having....
i have bt yahoo broadband (1MB) with a BT Voyager 205 ADSL router..i
read your excellent and detailed guide and have applied all the
principles to my router.....here comes the problem.
i've uploaded a shedload but downloaded next to nothing... i'm using emule and i have a high id in the server info bit and i have two green arrows on the little world thingy.when i use the port tester on emule in the preferences/connections section i get two green tics saying that all is right with the world :o) also when i goto http://www.preinheimer.com/cgi-bin/connectiontest/connectiontest.cgi while i am running emule it says success! i just cant understand what i am doing wrong..
I Would REALLY appreciate some help on this matter as i am totally
stumped mate..
Thanks for your time ;o)
Coke
hi cor,
I'm still lingering around your webpage, lots of info. I found some info about the logging in the ref guide pdf page 112, it mentioned the log can be forwarded to an ISP or LAN mail server I'm gonna try my ISP email until I figure out how to setup my linux mail server, let me know if you experiment with the logging before me, then I can save a bit of headaqe and concentrate on the linux mail server.
Another interesting thing about the router, it can do VPN (page 64). There is alot than I expected under that turtle's skin.
@ omer
The logging works although a little limited, if your gonna have it logging to linux, I'd recommend using syslog-ng, you can have the logs posted into their own file that way.
The PPP module will create a lot of useless spammage, in fact the only module to produce remotely useful info is WALL, keep in mind it is very limited.
PapA
thanks for the help, I would be grateful if you can explain more please on how to get syslog-ng to interact with the module in the router, my router is 192.168.1.1 and my linux box is 192.168.1.6, I'm new to linux and haven't touched on the logging yet.
Thanks
Not a prob.
Once syslog-ng is installed, edit the conf file (usually found @ /etc/syslog-ng.conf)
Make sure the file has the entry:
source remote { udp(); };
This is to make syslog-ng listen on port 514 UDP for remote log sources and call its input "remote" (you could use something else: source voyager, source router - it's up to you)
In the destinations section, you'll need something like the following:
destination remote_mesg { file("/var/log/router"); };
In the filter section there's no real need to add anything.
Finally the last section:
log { source(remote); destination(remote_mesg); };
If you used somthing else for the source name, don't forget to change the source name on the line above.
Restart/start syslog-ng and it **should** be ready to log.
On the router you'll need to start it sending logs.
Use: get trace cfg
to see all available modules and their current destination.
Choose the mod(s) you want to forward to the logging box and use:
modify trace cfg module MOD syslog dest xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx port 514
then commit, syslog should now be receiving the logs.
There's also flow and level options for the trace, still trying to ascertain exactly what changes these make (modify trace cfg ?).
modify trace cfg module MOD syslog dest xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx port 514
The xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx being the IP of your linux box of course.
Almost forgot, if your using klogd to log kernel messages, comment the kernel log sections in syslog-ng.conf otherwise you may find you end up with no kernel logs at all (the 2 deamons trying to log the same messages can conflict).
coke, sounds like your pipe's choked.
all uploads and no downloads usually means your upstream is saturated. try setting your max upload speed to around 80% of your upload capacity, should do the trick.
and hey! good work on the logging, PapA! real nice. If you figure out the filters (reduce spammage) that would be great, too. I haven't come across syslog-ng, so I grabbed the source, looks interesting, though was a bugger to compile, and refuses to work at all. I'll come back to that, hopefully soon. (I have a few hectic weeks ahead, so maybe not that soon)
Apart from the most basic things, I haven't really had the time to delve much into the inner mysteries of the unit, though you're right omer, this box sure has lots of tricks hidden up its sleeve.
I'll likely add a "tricks" page or something like that, and put these kinds of things on it, so do feel free to keep 'em coming!
;o)
ps.. don't worry about the double-posts, almost everyone does it! I just delete them. no problem.
Run down of modules so far:
IPF: Only outputs changes/inserts made to the IPF rulesets (all I've seen so far).
Example:
Jan 1 22:37:31 192.168.0.xxx IPF;8;42;INFO: Ipf_UpdateRulePtrList: successfully inserted RuleId 1010 in device = 16
Jan 1 22:37:31 192.168.0.xxx IPF;8;42;INFO: Ipf_UpdateRulePtrList: going to insert RuleId 125 in device = 16
Jan 1 22:37:31 192.168.0.xxx IPF;8;42;INFO: Ipf_UpdateRulePtrList: successfully inserted RuleId 125 in device = 16
WALL: Outputs when IPF/FWL rule condition met (dependent on minlogtime, doesn't output every rule hit).
Example:
Jan 6 00:08:46 voyager.home WALL;8;92732;IPF Rule Matched,Type: HTTP To Server,RuleId:180 ,062.253.032.xxx->192.168.000.xxx,Prot:TCP ,SPort:49454,DPort:80 ,Len:64 ,Intf: ppp-0,Act:ALLOW,VltCnt:4
Jan 6 00:17:28 voyager.home WALL;8;93255;IPF Rule Matched,Type: Int PKT ins,RuleId:1030 ,192.168.000.xxx->195.068.221.xxx,Prot:TCP ,SPort:32788,DPort:6667 ,Len:72 ,Intf: eth-0,Act:ALLOW,VltCnt:5842
TEL: Shows when telnet sessions are opened.
Example:
Jan 5 06:33:03 voyager.home TEL;8;29393;TEL_Server(): New Telnet session opened with handle 37.
SNTP: Shows attempts to sync time.
Example:
Jan 4 22:11:15 voyager.home SNTP;2;37;ERROR: Send Fail
Jan 4 22:11:20 voyager.home SNTP;2;42;ERROR: Send Fail
PPP: Stay well clear!!!
All it seems to output is:
Dec 31 21:14:52 192.168.0.xxx PPP;8;8966;PPP_Input(): LCP packet received.
Dec 31 21:14:52 192.168.0.xxx PPP;8;8966;PPP_LCP_Interpret(): Current LCP State: <9>. Input Pkt Type: <9>.
Dec 31 21:14:52 192.168.0.xxx PPP;8;8966;LCP_Open_State(): LCP Echo Req received.
Dec 31 21:14:52 192.168.0.xxx PPP;8;8966;LCP_Send_Echo_Reply(): Sending Echo Reply.
over and over again - makes big log files very quickly!!!
Will enable all of them (except PPP), and see what the others throw up at some point soon.
Hi there, I had an adsl modem,but I decieded to get a router to add my xbox to for online gaming,the problem is that I use a program called WinMX to get music files, but the problem is It connects as a secondary conection and not a primary connection like my adsl modem, the program requires a TCp 6699 incoming connection and a UDP 6257 connection, so that I can get faster downloads.
I was hoping you could send me some instrutions to get winmx running to its full service.
Thankyou
How do I log on to my router remotely (from the internet)? If I try to telnet to the address on the ppp-0 I get the unauthorised access warnings etc. trying a browser to that address doesn't work either. I haven't changed any settings on the router apart from the admin password.
I want to be able to remotely log onto to my home computer via the internet.
@anonymous
I think to enable internet connection to the router you need to enable WAN access for that type of connection, the problem with telnet is that data sent unencrypted over the Internet, since I'm too paranoid I won't recommend it and rather wait till the experts here sort some way to enable the router to do SSH.
With http access to the router's config manager, I don't think it's a good idea either, with bt you get this quick view where anyone can disconnect the router. And as cor mentioned earlier if you enable http access for the router you won't be able to link your IP to a webpage on you LAN if you want.
@PapA
Thanks for the detailed explanation, it's very helpful and easy to follow. I've checked my /etc folder and only found syslog.conf, so I'm assuming I don't have syslog-ng, but I will try to download it, I'm running Redhat Linux 8 by the way.
@cor
ha, just seen a couple of double posts...
I'll likely add a "tricks" page or something like that, and put these kinds of things on it, so do feel free to keep 'em coming
I think this is a brilliant idea, you know I was reading the messages above and found your dyndns post, great stuff, now got my own domain name and it's working fine. You might be able to bundle that stuff together under one heading say "How to setup voyager for dyndns" or "Get voyager logging"
hi i'm thinking i really need your help!! i obviously have the mentioned router and am having sooooooo much trouble with it its unbelievable!! firstly i use edonkey and i think the highest download speed i can get is about 15kbs which is obviously dodgy in its self! i also keep getting msgs saying port **** is unreachable and you have a lowid review network config! now to me this is way over my head totally!!!also my connection on the router does not last very long and all i get all the time is power and dsl lights static but when active the usb port flashes after a while will go solid meaning i have no connection! bt advised me to use the usb as the ethernet was not working for me at all.....please can somebody help me cos at the mo i feel like throwing the lot out the window!!! thank you xx
woah! busy busy!
thanks for that PapA, I'll definitely be adding some of that to the tricks page when I get around to that.
Omar, WinMX is just like any other p2p app, don't be confused by the primary/secondary thing. Set it up exactly the same as eMule, except with the ports specified. Chose "Primary" connexion.
You DO NOT need a UDP connexion for WinMX, but if you can allow incoming UDP, it speeds up your searches, that is all. I just installed it and it works great, although the UDP test at the setup seems faulty; it said I wasn't accepting incoming UDP, but once I got past that and got WinMX running, it all worked fine, searches are fast (2000 results in a couple of seconds), downloads and uploads work fine, the first (random) track I tried came in at 105KB/s, so that definitely works!
anonymous, dude! use a name next time!
anyways, if you want to access the unit from the WAN (Wide Area Network - ie. internet) side, you'll need to go here..
Advanced >> Security >> Access Controland check whatever you need; you crazy person.
Thanks for the input omer, that tricks page will be a handy resource when it's done. Some of these comments are dynamite, and a lot of these bits will end up in there, hopefully in meaningful sections.
claire oh gal! you sound at the end of your tether! okay, gotta get back to basics. First I recommend you scrap eDonkey, and install eMule instead. afaik, it lets you do everything eDonkey can do, and more. then check out the recipes page (link at the top of this page) for instructions on how to make it work.
But before that, ensure you've carefully read this page (maybe even twice!), there's tweaks for ppp timeout, and a few other things you'll likely find useful.
Some folks find telnet/shell access scary, but there's nothing to it, just login and tweak away! If you are running windows, get Putty (link above) which is way superior to the telnet built-in to windows.
I don't recommend using the USB at all. Like I said, the sticker is still stuck over my router's USB port, and that's the way it's going to stay! I know exactly nothing about configuring the router via USB, though I presume you can still use telnet/http interface, and I definitely recommend trying the ethernet again.
If it all gets too much, hop into my site chat (link under my almost invisible smiley in the toolbar), I should be around most of the evening.
have fun!
;o)
MRTG working for the Voyager now
Will prepare a mini tut. and post it here later.
http://router.ssk-clan.ath.cx - to see the working example
round of applause!
I've had those graphs running all night dude! reckon it's gonna be a new spectator sport, it's like darkstat for your router!
n1! looking forward to the mini-tut; certainly to be inserted in the yet-to-be-created "tricks" page.
next!
;o)
cor:
I was applying the stealth rules above to my router, but I play online games alot mainly unreal tournament 2004, do I need to define ipf rule for the game, if yes any idea which ports and protocol to consider
Thanks
try here
;o)
Hi there all. Gee I am glad I found this....I have a 205 router and a really strange problem.....I cannot get into the advanced settings at all anymore after I moved house. I can use the net normally but when I go to use edonkey or shoutcast the whole thing freezes. Guessing I need to configure the ports etc in the advanced tab I ventured in on 192.168.1.1.....
But the damn box that allows me to log in as admin/admin has gone and when I click advanced, all it comes up with is '401 unauthorised'. My login for the net is correct but I cannot even gain any access to the features to play about!
Any help please I am going mad!
hi simon!
login; unless you've changed it, the login should still be user: admin pass: admin. is that what you are using?
You can reset the unit (there's a wee hole in the back, you need a pin, or similar, to do it) and that would definitely reset the user/pass back to admin/admin.
My guess is your browser's automatically logging you on with the wrong password, try a different browser, or, if possible, go to your browser's prefs and delete the login info for 192.168.1.1
If it's internet explorer in Windows, you can disable the automatic login "functionality" in the "Internet Options" control panel (content tab, click "AutoComplete" button for options). try again with it disabled.
And of course, try a telnet session (in your shell, or if you are on windows, grab putty), and login. this will confirm definitively whether the pass has been changed or not, and it's a better way to play with the router, anyway.
let us know how it goes.
;o)
thanks for te quick reply. Really weird this one. I have already turned autocomplete off, and reset the router. The user/password box is just simply not appearing anywhere so I can't put the admin/admin names in anywhere.
Any ideas?
Thx
I think there's something about this further up in the comments. possibly a firewall (or similar "security" software) is altering the page, as some do, removing javascript elements, that sort of thing. the bt web interface relies on this stuff.
have you tried another browser, like firefox?
And what about telnet? does that work?
;o)
simon, cor
Today is the happiest day in my life, I told you I had a problem with my voyager config manager web page, it loads, but then none of the links seems to work. I tried IE6 , NS7.2 , FireFox 1.0 you name them and it worked sometimes and other times it didn't, and that really annoyed me so much, I tried installing the latest jave vm from sun, enabling disabling microsoft vm and nothing worked.
And today it turned out to so simple, it was a cache problem, the paged are cached and the browser is using the cached version. to solve the problem do the following:
Internet Explorer 6
Tools menu \ Internet Options \ General Tab \ In the Temporary Internet files select the settings button \ In the "Check for newer versions of stored pages" select "Every visit to the page" click ok and you are done.
Netscape Navigator 7.2
Edit menu \ Preferences \ Advanced \ Cache \ for the Compare the page in the cache to the page on the network: select "Every time I view the page" click ok and you are done
Mozilla FireFox 1.0
I couldn't find a clear option to set but I thought this might do
Tools menu \ Options \ Privacy \ Cache, click the clear button and then set the use up to 0kB of disk space for the cache.
simon
clear your cache and stored passwords and try, let me know if it works
nice one omer!
hey! that's the default setting! (and definitely recommended, always) you must of been messing around with it! It's a good call, though, will remember for furure reference.
;o)
Hi - hope you can give some advice to a novice - just set up the 205 to one PC fine - as it was replacing my previous cable BB I was hoping to use my existing router (Safecom 4 port) for my 4 PC home network until I realised the 205 was itself a router not just a modem. Of course it dosen't work when I put my router in after the 205 (Ethernet). I guess I can't use the Safecom as a simple switch can I? I saw your mention of a switch from Maplins which might do it. Can you give me any more detail of the switch and will it allow my PCs to share files between them as I was doing with the Safecom?
Many thanks for your time.
Chris
Chris
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=34826&TabID=1&source=15&WorldID=4&doy=9m1
This is the cheapest switch in Maplin £24 and connects up to 4 computers and share files, you connect the voyager 205 to the uplink in the switch and it can act as a gateway and dhcp server giving you LAN computers IP addresses dynamically if you want
Im currently having a problem with my router , i have forwarded my ports and am using BitTorrent . Now my problem was that it my internet disconected after about 15 minutes ranging to 3 hours.
So i did a little googling and found this :
Telnet into the router
Issue the following commands:
modify nbsize maxipsess 512
modify nat global udptimeout 10
commit
reboot
Edit: (issue reboot to router to make the change to nbsize effective - AND no it doesn't mean reboot your pc!!)..
currently working with the steam server lists
The default settings are maxipsess 192
allows a maximum of 192 connections to a single host (including LAN pc's).
the udptimeout 300 (seconds) holds connection open for 300 seconds before destroying it (if you have similar queries that require server queries over TCP there's also tcptimeout).
The dos protection also doesn't help with the default settings @ maxsinglehostconn 75 (75% of nbsize), but with the above settings there should be no need to disable dos protection.
Have a play with the settings, should be possible to get a nice balance between allowing server list to update and maintaining an effective dos protection.
Now it still disconnecting and at times doesnt re-connect like before.
Clarke
clarke, the stuff you need is on this very page! apart from the nbsize tweak, try these (also from this page)..
modify ppp global keepalive enable
modify ppp global pppsesstimer nevertimeout
The stuff about server lists and UDP timeouts, dunno what yer on about. I'd leave the UDP/TCP timeouts alone (all my stuff works great without touching that), and what server list are you talking about? (gamers!) And what does the DOS protection have to do with this? :confusled:
Anyways, while I'm here...
I noticed the port probe is starting to get a lot of action now. good.
I noticed a few port 80 scans, too, and thinking I may find some juicy new dynamic websites, I loaded the IP's in my web browser.
In each case I go the user's router configuration. and in each case the default user/password were still in effect. not good. WAN access is okay. Default user/pass is okay. BUT NOT BOTH! *sheesh*
Fortunately, for you guys, I'm not the sort who would do anything nefarious with such access, but some would. Please disable WAN access on your routers!
you have been warned!
;o)
well i originally got that stuff from :
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=187451
Just popped up and sounded similar to some problems i had.
Clarke
Hi, has anyone ever experienced having problems seeing the advanced options. I have cleared cache and passwords to login to the advanced options and i still cannot see the pages. The links come up at the left hand side but the main page does not change to the options for that selection. Have tried resetting router etc with no luck, any help would be great, thanks in advance, chris. ;-)
Chris
Having experienced the problem I always turn my software firewall OFF before I try the advanced links then click through all options
it always seems to do the trick you just have to keep clicking!
best
barney
Thanks barney, will try when get home. oops ;-( posted question twice by accident... sorry.
Hi Barney, i turned of all firewalls and windows firewall, and lowered security of internet options to lowest but still no damn luck. I can get in through telnet though but really wanted to do all my changes through browser (siigh) oh well, will keep trying different things tonight.
Chris, forget the browser! If after clearing the cache (and setting ie to check with every page load, as above) and removing any software firewall javascript "security" features, it's still not working, screw it! Some changes can only be done in a telnet session anyway, so just install putty, and en-joy!
how's the disconnexion? still happening?
;o)
ps.. PapA! you sure do get around dude!
well im still having the problem i just reset modem and did only what you said but it still disconnects , takes a bit longer though i manages to get it to download for 5 hours today , but i was away so thats the least i knew it did.
ANy other ideas ?
Clarke
hi Clarke
I'm surprised by the disconnexions, up until this evening (when I reset my router to test something out) I was connected, with the same IP, for over two weeks. And I work my router hard! I've got a minimum of four machines connected through it at all times, and it's usually maxed out, capacity wise; multiple torrents is the norm; so this seems strange to me.
I recommend you open a telnet session (using putty, of course, latest version), and leave it open. The reason is, if there are things wonking out, they will be reported in the telnet session. I often get this..
Wed Jan 12 20:00:49 2005 : WARNING : ATM VC Congested : Interface - aal5-0, Port Id=7, Vpi=0, Vci=38..for instance, which, although indicative of serious overloading somewhere, doesn't cause any actual problems with the up/downloads, and I ignore it, but, you may see different error messages.
And if you do, you could post them in here.
;o)
ps.. don't worry about the double-posting, almost everyone does it, I just delete them*
When I created the comment mechanism, I initially wanted the post creation to happen in a javascript pop-up, to prevent this very phenomena, but the hurdles and limitations were too great (for a start, not everyone has Javascript enabled), and so we are left with regular html POST.
Usually, when you refresh the browser it warns you that you are about to post the data again, all mine do, but I guess these days most folk just click everything without reading it first, and I guess that's why almost everyone has to use anti-virus software. I say almost because I don't.
pps.. As I have mentioned before, I keep an old 1940's paper punch on top of my voyager, which acts as a truly effective heat-sink. Also, my router (and switch) live right underneath my window; the coldest part of the room. could this be the secret of my voyager 205 success? 'scuse the mess, it's my workshop! ..
1: I should mention, although extremely unlikely, it's not impossible that one day, I might re-save the comment file at the exact same moment someone else is posting here, and their comment would utterly fail. But we'll likely still see it, because, fortunately, most folk double-post!
Wed Jan 12 23:10:55 2005 : WARNING : ATM VC Congested : Interface - aal5-0, Port
Id=7, Vpi=0, Vci=38
as requested
aye, but are there any other errors?
keep it open! with any luck, if it reconnects, it should tell you why
;o)
Thanks cor, figured out why the advanced options not coming up..
It was my nvidia A8N-SLI motherboard firewall, forgot it was there, had turned of mcfe internet security and windows firewall but security centre still said firewall running wich led me to that. Perhaps i should use one or the other and not both. Hey, got e-mule working last night with your port forwarding examples, ;-). My next job is when my wireless adsl router comes today, going to try and link that up to it though i understand it could be quite a job. Thanks and keep up the good work, i would be eating my wrist by know if this page did not exist. lol
Great news Chris! It's all good, hell even claire is getting 120KB/s downloads in WinMX now, just shows ye!
You're right about the firewalls, running two firewalls together is a definite no-no, and can paradoxically lead to a decrease in security! To think, only a few short years ago firewalls were toys of the elite, now the buggers are hiding everywhere! Seriously, I've worked on machines with three firewalls effectively running, and the user blissfully unaware of all of them!
With the router stealth rules in place, you don't really need a local firewall running at all, unless, of course, you're the sort who likes to keep an eye on outgoing connections. I do, at least on my peecee.
As for the WiFi, sounds like you're stepping out of 205 territory. I know folks have had success simply plugging WiFi access points/base stations into the 205, apple airports and such-like; at any rate, methinks the mileage variables are going to be well stretched! But if you get the thing talking to the 205, do share!
Talking of wrists, I gotta rest mine, RSI is becoming a real threat! for now..
;o)
Hi Cor,
Do you know the software date release of the latest Voyager 205 firmware ? Do you think it could be used with HwVersion 810012 ?
Here are some software I wrote you could use with the Voyager 205. Some of them have english translations.
hey! cool tools Mackila !
I tried DM602GUI_english.exe, impressive stuff! All the functions seem to work perfectly, too, sure saves a lot of messing around in the shell. Perfect for total noobs. Many thanks! The statistics pages are also excellent. good work!
I only wish I could make the window bigger! I've got a lot of rules! (I achieved this with "ResizeEnable", but the results are less than satisfactory). I'll play with your other applications later on. If you like, I could host the relevant programs here, too, share some bandwidth. let me know about that.
As for the firmware, is there an update available? My router is: HwVersion : 810020, SwVersion : V1.1, and I'm not sure how a custom firmware (like the BT one is) would work in another model, we've not had much success with firmware, so far, the Solwise firmware update is a definite no-go!
Perhaps there's something more generic kicking around, a GlobespanVirata firmware update. If anyone has any information, drop it here.
ok, this time I'm really off!
;o)
hi cor,
I wondered if everyone here is subject to BT's 30Gbyte maximum traffic allowance for 1 month with their 1 Mb/s broadband.
I'm designing some php webpages on my LAN and I want to do some testing from an IP address external to the LAN, at the moment I disable LAN on one computer and use dial-up to get an external IP address. I was wondering if I can plug the router's USB into my second ethernet card and change the USB IP address to say 192.168.0.1 bearing in mind my routher's eth0 IP is 192.168.1.1, do you know if I can actually do that with the USB or it has to be in the same subnet as the eth0
briefly (aye, still here!), the limit isn't in effect yet, so get them torrents going NOW!
For the webserver, just use a local address, it's all the same, really. You can't "loopback" with the Voyager 205, so unless you have access to a remote desktop (this works well), viewing the pages from outside could be difficult. Some sites online will do something similar for a page, but not much use for real testing.
check out the web server section for juicy details on creating your own spoof virtual internet within the confines of your LAN, along with cute "proper" host names. Usually this is all that's needed.
l*rz..
;o)
cor,
thanks for the reply, the webserver section is full of goodies specially the html to php really valuable tool.
what I really meant is an IP address external to my 192.168.1. subnet, I'm setting up two webservers, one normal on port 80 for LAN access and another one over https over port 633 I think! for external access and I was wondering if I can get the router to give me an IP address through USB, external to my subnet i.e. 192.168.23. so I can test that https is working for external access.
DM602GUI_english.exe where is the english version? i cant seem to find it?
hmm.. well, the USB, by default, will have IP address 192.168.1.2, and if you change it to a different subnet, your LAN machines simply won't talk to it any more.
If I were you (which, as ever means; "if you were me"), I'd just ask someone else to test it for you. would probably save time.
;o)
Hi all,
I need some help. I would like to ask whether someone has tested whether it would be possibile run SIP Protocol behind Voyager 205.
This router implements Symmetric NAT (very bad for VOIP) and does not preserve port number. I've tryed with STUN protocol but it doesn't work with Symmetric NAT.
Can you give me some hint to configure properly the router with SIP Protocol?
Many thanx
Verbal
Hi Verbal. Yeah, SIP works fine (almost) straight out of the box, at least for me.
I use BT Communicator to make calls to landlines (for free) almost every day. It's a SIP based service (as far as I know) and it works superbly.
No specific rules are neccessary, the first stealth rule, along with the global NAPT rule seem to cover it along with most other communications, the units' "stateful inspection" translating packets without problem. certainly, I've not had to add any rules manually, it just works.
Chris, try the "Outils traduits" link.
;o)
Hi cor,
thanx for your quick reply...another question...do you get from BT on the WAN interface of Voyager a static public IP address or dynamic....now I've disabled the STUN protocol in my SIP Client...anyway, as far as I know, the Vojager doesn't implement the ALG of SIP Protocol...or I wrong something??
Many thanx
Verbal
Cor,
Interesting to see others are having disconnection issues. Yesterday I could connect to the internet fine, today it looked like the BT ISP was down. Eventually took a long shot and restarted the router, and hey presto all sprang back into life. I hadn't touched the config in days - and it still looked the same to me (I checked before restarting)
Incidentally, whenever I restart I always get 30 or so rules - even though I have (repeatedly) applied your stealth suggestions (I'm not running any net services so I don't need more than a simple client connection to the net.) In fact, I found that the outgoing rule (id 10) conflicted with one of the un-deletable BT rules, so every time my router powered down (eg from a power cut) I then had to reconfigure the router before we could use the internet again. I just changed the ruleid to 5 and now power cuts are not so fatal to our connectivity :-)
Has anyone else got the same problems "commit"-ing their rule set / permanently deleting the IP filter rules that ship with the box?
Finally, just for your info, I had little success buying a switch over Christmas due to my debit card being expired, and new one not yet activated. So in the meantime I figured out the problem with connecting the box directly to a hub. There has to be some hard-wired cross-over inside the 205 - which is why you can connect a PC directly to it using a normal CAT5 cable (not a cross-over one like you'd expect).
To prove my theory I modified an old ethernet cable I had, turning it into a cross-over cable. I connected the 205 to the hub, and hey presto - all is networked, and still running on a cheap and nasty hub ;-)
Will get a switch one day, if speed becomes an issue.
Cheers
Andy
Sorry - should have read the latest before my comment on rebooting. You already covered it :-)
..If you ever reboot the router (or switch the power off), some of those automatic rules will be re-inserted. We are still looking for a firwmare flash which might successfully resolve this issue
Been reading through your replies and it seems to make sense. Inve just got a bloody voyager 205 and i cant connect to xbox live becos my nat is at level 3. ONE PROBLEM! When i type 192.168.1.1 into the url box and press enter i get onto the site, i then click on advanced and type in the user name and password. BUT it then just stays on the QUICK START menu no matter what i click??! pls help!:'(:'(
Thanks
Gr8 news Andy!
The disconnexions are going to need some investigation methinks. It's almost like a windows® machine, getting all choked up and needing a reboot. strange. The automatic rule creation we covered earlier, (spotted that!) it's usually less rules, though, I get maybe 10 or 12 appear. And rule id 10 is rule id 5! (look again!) and has been almost since I made this an HTML page, you must have been raking about some of the old text files onsite!
Apart from those few automatic rules, everything else seems to "commit" okay, there are quite a few other automatic (non-firewall) rules, too, eventually we'll start offering rewards for locating a firmware update!
As for the hub, good call! The big difference is, a switch would immediately detect the router is crossed-over and reverse the pin assignment (with most switches you can use both types of cable interchangeably), so that makes perfect sense! And hey! speed probably already is an issue, it's just that you haven't experienced your LAN in a "non-issue" state! With a hub you get by, with a switch, you fly!
Thanks for the info, will add a note to the articles somewhere about this.
Verbal, true, there's no defined ALG for SIP, but for sure, the VoIP software I use every day is definitely SIP-based, and it definitely works. I've used Skype and others, too occasionally. No problems.
Some may remember the old speedtouch USB modems had a built-in ALG for SIP, useless. but as soon as you removed the ALG rule, SIP started to work!. I know there have been lots of router issues with SIP in the past (even with BT VoIP services on BT-issued routers!) but the Voyager seems to handle everything okay. Just try it!
I can't imagine BT, on the eve of its grand VoIP roll-out, would purchase zillions of VoIP-incompatible routers to give away with all their broadband packages. Mind you, they'd done stupider things.
;o)
Xxplosive, are you sure you read all the comments?
;o)
OK read through the top half again. Before i just skipped straight to the nat rules and tried to create one for my xbox, changing the port from 3074 to 3079. Should i have done stealth first or wouldnt it make much of a difference? If im missing something please tell me which bit to read:'(. Sorry lol.
ARGHGHGHGHGGH Im so pissed off its unbelievable. Ive typed in EVERY code uve got on the page and xbox live still isnt coming on!!:@. I will love you forever n ever if you could tell me the exact commands and port numbers i need to connect xbox live to a bt voyager 205 512k! PPllleeeeeeeaaaaaaseeeeeeee
Hi there cor, I just thought I would add some comments to your excellent thread about the things I have done with my 205's.
First up I tried the solwise 101 firmware update and it definetly dosnt work :) one useless router. As to plugging in a 205 to a wireless router, it works fine when plugged into the wan port of my origo router. my pda works fine with it. I would be really interested in finding out if I can rescue my other 205 with a bt firmware update.
Keep up the good work
cheers
Ok Cor after 2 days of trying i get this
Sat Jan 15 00:20:12 2005 : WARNING : ATM VC Congested : Interface - aal5-0, Port
Id=7, Vpi=0, Vci=38
thats the only thing that comes up with putty , and the connection stil drops , so i was thinking of the heat theory you got , just placed 2 coke cans sideways on my modem , not got much else .
will report with its progress
Clarke
Well , swapped 1 can for some chunky spanner and im downloading on the laptop with the ethernet not usb , and guess what IT WORKS , ill try with the usb later , or it could be the slow speeds currently 12kbps.
Clarke
Hi Cor
I gave up trying to get emule to work and switched to Ares which has been superb,i have no trouble downloading at speeds of 120Kps and i upload at around 30 odd (not sure exactly), the problem i seem to have is that i will be downloading something then all of a sudden my connection seems to break and i watch my speeds drop until i'm at 0.00 on dl and ul,and i cant connect to the internet.. then i turn off ares,restart my pc, and then bam straight back to normaL DL speed and everything functions normally!
Its bizarre, sometimes it can happen after 5 minutes, sometimes after 5 hours its so random i cant seem to work out why its happening.. if anyone's got any idea's i would be grateful if you could let me know why this is happening.
i read through your guide again and applied these
modify ppp global keepalive enable
modify ppp global pppsesstimer nevertimeout
but it hasn't helped. Any ideas?
Thanks for your time
Hi all,
I am trying to get syslog working on a similar DSL modem. So far, all I can get it to log are telnet connections. What I am really intrested in are ATM events. i.e. when the modem goes in and out of sync. If I leave a telnet session open, it will spit it out to my session. But I would prefer if it logs it to my server. Anyone have any ideas ? I am guessing its something to do with the flow levels
$get trace cfg
Module Flow Level Type Destn Port
------------------------------------------------------------------------
ADET 0xffffffff 0xffffffff Syslog 192.168.7.2 514
ALG 0xffffffff 0xffffffff Syslog 192.168.7.2 514
ALPS 0xffffffff 0xffffffff Syslog 192.168.7.2 514
ATM 0xffffffff 0xffffffff Syslog 192.168.7.2 514
CDB 0xffffffff 0xffffffff Syslog 192.168.7.2 514
CIN 0xffffffff 0xffffffff Syslog 192.168.7.2 514
CLI 0xffffffff 0xffffffff Syslog 192.168.7.2 514
DCL 0xffffffff 0xffffffff Syslog 192.168.7.2 514
DDNS 0xffffffff 0xffffffff Syslog 192.168.7.2 514
DHR 0xffffffff 0xffffffff Syslog 192.168.7.2 514
DHS 0xffffffff 0xffffffff Syslog 192.168.7.2 514
DNSR 0xffffffff 0xffffffff Syslog 192.168.7.2 514
DSL 0xffffffff 0xffffffff Syslog 192.168.7.2 514
EOA 0xffffffff 0xffffffff Syslog 192.168.7.2 514
EW 0xffffffff 0xffffffff Syslog 192.168.7.2 514
FDL 0xffffffff 0xffffffff Syslog 192.168.7.2 514
FLOG 0xffffffff 0xffffffff Syslog 192.168.7.2 514
Thu Jan 01 21:07:21 1970 : WARNING : ATM VC Congested : Interface - aal5-0, Port
Id=7, Vpi=0, Vci=35
FTPC 0xffffffff 0xffffffff Syslog 192.168.7.2 514
GAG 0xffffffff 0xffffffff Syslog 192.168.7.2 514
GENP 0xffffffff 0xffffffff Syslog 192.168.7.2 514
HDLC 0xffffffff 0xffffffff Syslog 192.168.7.2 514
IPF 0x3 0xffffffff Syslog 192.168.7.2 514
IPML 0xffffffff 0xffffffff Syslog 192.168.7.2 514
IPOA 0xffffffff 0xffffffff Syslog 192.168.7.2 514
IPPK 0xffffffff 0xffffffff Syslog 192.168.7.2 514
LED 0xffffffff 0xffffffff Syslog 192.168.7.2 514
LMAN 0x1 0xffffffff Syslog 192.168.7.2 514
MEA5 0xffffffff 0xffffffff Syslog 192.168.7.2 514
MEAL 0xffffffff 0xffffffff Syslog 192.168.7.2 514
NAT 0xffffffff 0xffffffff Syslog 192.168.7.2 514
OAM 0xffffffff 0xffffffff Syslog 192.168.7.2 514
PING 0xffffffff 0xffffffff Syslog 192.168.7.2 514
PPE 0xffffffff 0xffffffff Syslog 192.168.7.2 514
PPP 0xffffffff 0xffffffff Syslog 192.168.7.2 514
RBTN 0xffffffff 0xffffffff Syslog 192.168.7.2 514
RIP 0xffffffff 0xffffffff Syslog 192.168.7.2 514
ROOT 0xffffffff 0xffffffff Syslog 192.168.7.2 514
RPF 0xffffffff 0xffffffff Syslog 192.168.7.2 514
SAG 0xffffffff 0xffffffff Syslog 192.168.7.2 514
SMTP 0xffffffff 0xffffffff Syslog 192.168.7.2 514
SNTP 0xffffffff 0xffffffff Syslog 192.168.7.2 514
SURF 0xffffffff 0xffffffff Syslog 192.168.7.2 514
TAG 0xffffffff 0xffffffff Syslog 192.168.7.2 514
TBM 0xffffffff 0xffffffff Syslog 192.168.7.2 514
TEL 0xffffffff 0xffffffff Syslog 192.168.7.2 514
TFTC 0xffffffff 0xffffffff Syslog 192.168.7.2 514
TRC 0xffffffff 0xffffffff Syslog 192.168.7.2 514
WALL 0x3 0xffffffff Syslog 192.168.7.2 514
Hello All
Do not no if I am speaking out of turn here but anyway
when I first visited this site I was connected by usb and
even after I followed the instuctions correctly I still
encountered a lot of the problems everyone is experiencing.
Then cor pointed out that these instructions were specifically
for ETHERNET connections.Cor says he had never tested on USB
connections and had no Idea how these would work with USB.
I do know that USB drops connections frequently.
I reset my Voyager bought an ethernet card and followed the
instructions again and have had no problems since.
Hope I am right and hope it helps you all.
Best
Barney
Coke^ , i did have same problem so now im downloading using ethernet , works great . No problems downloading 24hrs so far no dissconections. ive just taken the "heat sink" off well i did about 5 hous ao and still running strong . i dont see the disadvantage of udsb , but im just taking it as it comes.
Clarke
Thanks for the reply clarke
i've taken your advice and am now connected via etherlink to my NETGEAR FA310TX Fast Ethernet Adapter (NGRPCI) i appreciate the response and i'll let you know if it makes a diference.
just out of interest i reset my router and now i cant get off the first page, even after i enter admin and my password it shows the options of ip addresses ip routing etc but the section on the right stays the same displaying my sent/recieved/speed stats.. any idea why?
Coke
youv'e got a software firewall on somewhere
best
barney
Thank you for the reply barney
Your right that was the problem woks fine now =o)
thanks again
well Xxplosive, First, apply the stealth rules. although simple (it's only two rules) they do much more than provide stealth.
I'm no gamer, and no one's sent me a an XBox (or anything!) to try some of this stuff out, but I reckon your best option would be start by assigning the XBox a static IP address..
In the Xbox Dashboard, set up like this:
Config: Manual
IP address: enter new address here. probably 192.168.1.100 or something
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Gateway: enter the IP address of your router, probably 192.168.1.1
In the Xbox Dashboard, navigate to DNS Server and set it up like this:
Config: Manual
Primary DNS: enter the IP address of your router, same as gateway (above)
Alternate DNS: enter a DNS server address here, see main article for two good ones
Some folk get things working with dynamic addressing, so you may want to try that first. At any rate, we'll need to know what you've done so far. applying all the rules willy-nilly is usually not the best way forward!
Clarke and ^coke, stick with the ethernet! barney's right, I don't recommend, nor offer any knowledge/support for USB connexions. USB modems are trouble, always have been. A proper ethernet connexion doesn't need extra system resources/drivers to get working, it "just works", and for any platform, too. connecting with USB is all disadvantages! And as you can pick up NICs (Network Interface Cards) brand new for only a couple of pounds, there's no reason whatsoever to use the USB!
The ATM VC Congested messages are an ongoing thing. I'm guessing it's something to do with contention. But so long as I can still get 120Kb/s downloads, they don't bother me. Someone might want to tell BT about them, though, maybe we all should.
countzero , brave soul! I do remember reading somewhere about an alternative way to apply firmware, but I'd have to track that down; my spare time is very limited (maybe in the PDF's). With any luck, BT themselves will release a firmware upgrade, and your router could be resurrected. Perhaps it's possible to dump the firmware from a working router, too.
syslog , really PapA is the man for this. He's going to be putting together a mini-tut about logging, so you might want to wait for that. If you find anything out in the meantime, though, do share, this is (mostly) unexplored territory.
Lastly, you may have noticed I reorganised things a bit up top (of this very very long page!), any feedback on that appreciated. The "tricks" page still isn't started yet. maybe next week.
for now..
;o)
exceptional site. i followed your instructions, they worked like a charm. outstanding.
I've been driving myself mad. Sorry I am new to this.I can not get WinMx to work with this router. I have followed your instructions. Have I missed something?
1. opened up a telnet session
2. stealthing the router by inputing the two comands
3. inputing the four comands (two firewall and two nat)from the recepie page for win mx
3. closed the telnet session.
4. tested with p2p probe. (6699-connection refused, 6257 - connection refused)
Help!
ant, don't drive yourself mad, let us help!
Okay, first, check you have a static IP on your computer, and that the IP you used in the NAT rules matches that IP exactly. Then check again.
Also check you have no other firewalls running (unlikely; you would generally get a stealth result from the p2p probe in this case, but do check anyway, especially for the windows® built-in firewall)
Did you remove the extraneous firewall rules first? (the automatically-generated ones shouldn't interfere, but some of the default set may, and need to be removed, and replaced by the two stealth rules) And the new commands, they entered without error?
Lastly; wait a minute. Strange, I know, but more than once I've noticed that after applying new rules they don't seem to work straight away, but a minute or so later, they "kick in". Patience sure is a virtue, especially when it comes to networking.
;o)
I took the advice of using etherlink instead of usb and it has not lost connection once or interfered with me using the internet while i have Ares running.I can say to anyone who is having problems with their connection dropping, to try this out as it solved my problems immediately.
Thanks guys for all the help i really appreciate it
Awesome site
Hey cor, my wireless ADSL Router arrived today, going to try out and let you know how it goes. Going to push the boundries to the outer limit by adding a phillips streamium (Wireless Media Streamer),XBOX and...... wait for it, a wireless pacific digital memoryframe. mmm, gunna throw a party if can get all working. Think i might change my job from computer programmer to technical department at this rate.
go man go!
With a decent switch, I'd say it's doable. But I'm gonna be away for a couple of days, so all I have to say on the subject, for now, is.. good luck!1
;o)
ps.. ^coke! glad you've seen the light m8! (I mean that ethernet LED, of course) btw, I tried out Ares myself yesterday, good stuff, yup.
1: I don't believe in luck
Fuckin dynamite tips mate, im running at least 5 times faster with bittorrent!
Much appreciated
How do I set up the Voyager 205 to allow connectivity to a WAN via VPN-1 SecureClient
Help!
Thanks
Hey, Nice site by the way.. i am starting to understand... i think. Anyway, my question/problem is thus: I have a Voyager 205 and I need to be able to connect to a private company network using VPN-1 client over GRE (i guess). What I dont know is, do i need to crete a rule for ipf or nat.. or is this just not possible on this router. I'm sure I read somewhere thaht it allows VPN.. any ideas?
Hey Guys,
Hope somebody can help, I need to access the advanced settings on my Voyager 205 so that i can configure it so that i can get rid of my low id on emule, but when i double click on "advanced" in the menu and enter my user name and password as "admin" it gives me the drop down menu, but when i double click on "ip Routing" and everything i click on doesnt alter my screen from the initial "quick start up" screen.
Its driving me mad. I am using the USB cable.
Hope somebody can help.
Cheers... Steve F
heh, I think in my absence, the comment mechanism broke, I recovered yours Stevie, from my admin page. By the way, your question has already been aswered (above), more than once.
I think I'm gonna have split the comments up into pages, or something, there's just too of them! Which means almost no one will read the previous comments! *sigh* This page is way more popular than I expected it to be. so it goes. I'll hopefully code that up this weekend. Maybe hack something in, in the meantime. hmmm.
Mick, Ant, VPN, no idea. The Voyager 205 certainly has VPN capabilities, check the PDF's for details, particularly the reference guide. If I get some time over the weekend I could look into, but it would be better if you did; you can tell us if it works, too. I can't, I've nowhere to VPN to!
thx G402! k, gotta shoot-
;o)
correction!
I have exceeded my site's disk quota, with COMMENTS!!!
now that is funny! okay, I deleted one of Karma's videos, sorree doggie-fans!
Now we got 3MB more space for comments!
;o)
Cor why dont make a FAQ for this
Clarke
nah, I never suffer from laziness, it's completely painless!
seriously, I've been incorporating the answers into the main article itself, which is why there's extra pages now, "articles". I plan to do a "troubleshooting" page, too, especially for folks who can't be bothered to read all the comments.
Time is always a factor,
and sadly, no one here is paying for mine!
;o)
Have tryed useing Telnet to accses modem
but keeps coming up as :login failed
have tried bith both my Pc and BT user names and passwords.
but it still won't let me in.
I am having prob's with online games,ie. multiplayer MOHAA/brk'throuh. When looking for servers the voyager 205 SUCKS,
It finds very few and most of them are very high ping.
Im trying to change the folowing as i have been told this will
work : maxipsess 512 nat global udptimeout 10
but cant get accses. PLEASE CAN SOMEONE HELP
prv.joker..
user name : admin
password : admin
unless you've changed it yourself to something else and fogotten what.. :)
hi all
i am really struggling to set up the 205voyager, i need to open udp ports so that i can get a primary connections in winmx, any ideas please?
thanks for your reply. I am none the wiser though. How do I find my Static IP address? I have now managed to get a "conection timed our (probably stealthed" message when I probe the two WINMX ports/ At first i thought that was it, winmx seems to work, other users can access my computer and my files at a good upload speed. however after a few minutes or if i start to download, the connection slows down to a point that it disconects...
What are the extraneous firewall rules you mentioned? how do I remove them. I have simply stealthed and followed your Winmx Nat and firewall rules. Sorry if i sound like a complete dweep this is all new to me. please feel free to e-mail me directly. ant
Thanks people have got Telnet sorted
modify nbsize maxipsess 512
modify nat global udptimeout 10
commit
reboot
This work great for finding online multiplayer servers MOHAA/CoD/STEAM ect. The defult for voyager205 SUCKS
Also thanks to the lads at UK Broadband forums
^Coke- Thank man sorted
Good day ,
first of all thank you very much because you gave me the solution I was seeking for 6 months.I had a lowid at emule and now I managed to get the highid.I made a stiatc ip, configured firewall and ports through telnet, I have very good download and upload speeds but something very strange happens.I connect to e-mule, I'm having a highid but 10 minutes later the connection freezes for 2 minutes.After these 2 minutes it continues again with but with problems (connect,freeze,connect).
Any idea?
Thank you very much for your help.
Jerry
I solved the problem.I always had some alerts from my Antivirus that e-mule was trying to connect through port 25(ip 217.xx.xx.xx).I saw that at my advanced settings my ip (192.168.1.xx) was redirected to 217.xx.xx.xx. I deleted the rule and everything works perfectly.No lag with my connection, e-mule keeps downloading at high speeds.
Any idea what was that and how it may have happened?
Thanks
Jerry
Hi! I've got a big problem with this modem and e
ahhhhh.. VPN works fine now. The problem was that the ip of the Voyager (192.168.1.1) existsed on my works network... they have kindly removed this for me, and I can now connect fine. Though it is anoying that I cou;dn't just chage my routers ip address. The problem now is tahht Remote Desktop doesn't work (port 3389). I ano not actually sure how I shoudl configure this with "create nat .." Anyone know how to create a rule which would allow me to use/open port 3389?
Cheers
I have read all of this site and setup my 205 - nee probs.
top notch advice mate!
I would like to know, however, if there is a way to add i.p addresses to the blacklist as this would be really effective against spyware. I have a list of i.p's i woild like to block?
Any ideas
Many thanks in advance!
your site was really helpful. not only have i now got p2p programs to work (only this site out of all i looked at that helped) but i feel safer now i've customised my router.
many thanks.
Hi,
I use the BT 1 MB broadband service which came with the 205 router. Recently, I bought a Creative Webcam Live Pro webcam and tried to use MSN Messenger v 6.2 (and later in desperation v 7.0 (beta)). The video aspects are fine I can see the person on the other end of the line and they can see me. However, the audio is a complete failure: I can neither hear or be heard. I've tested the Webcam and microphoneand they are both fine ( it seems to work with BT Yahoo Messenger)
I have since learnt that this is due to an inherent problem within MSN messenger when used with NATs based routers. Anyway according to various sources on the net (e.g. http://messenger.jonathankay.com) that the solution is to open up UDP ports 5004-65335. Being a complete novice at this can you please explain in excruciatingly explicit instructions how I do this via the web based user interface that came with the router.
Do I need to open up ports in both the outbound and inbound direction?
Do I need to write some NAT rules as well?
If it is not possible to open these ports via the aforementioned user interface, then I suppose I shall have to use Telnet. If so how I do this?
Thanks in advance.
PS: This site has been very informative and one of the most helpful I've found Cor.
I can't open other menus (adwanced, troubleshooting) in this router menu. When I click to adwanced or troubleshooting menu, then I see always only:
Quick Start
This page is used to connect/disconnect to ADSL.
Connection Status
Online Time 0:43:3
Data Transmitted 447668 bytes
Data Received 3339326 bytes
Downstream Speed 576 Kbps
Upstream Speed 288 Kbps
Any idea?
Thats this is the site i have been looking for!!!! BT technical line are useless!!!! I am ok on the portforwarding but the link above were it says click here for creating a static address is not working - whats the correct page anyone - i need to set up a static address for my games and P2P - i need step by step instructions like above on port forwarding.
Thanks a lot
Paul
hi
levitt, no you don't. check the recipes page.
Ant, Paul, and others, check the new link in the menu at the top of this page, or click this link for the step-by-step on getting a static IP address. The other link you mentioned *should* lead to one of the comments right here on this page, but some browsers don't do it properly. Of course, reading all the comments would also get you the information! Oh, and the "Extraneous Firewall Rules" are just the pile that come as standard with the router. Delete them all! Start the two stealth rules only.
jet, that's a HUGE list of ports to open, same as given here, a favourite source of mine. You may want to consider enabling UPnP on the router, though I haven't investigated the possible consequences of this because I've always simply equated UPnP with "Security Hole" and disabled it wherever I find it. Having said that, it will probably prove to be more secure than opening tens of thousands of ports! I don't use MSN messenger, believing it to be a "total pile of shite", but each to their own! If the UPnP doesn't work, get back here and we'll goto Plan B.
By the way, you never need to create outgoing NAT rules. Everything is allowed out, by default (first firewall rule)
digitaldazz, I don't think you can add IP's to the blacklist manually, though that certainly would be a very cool feature. Perhaps someone should mention this to Globespan (or whatever they're called this week). It would be possible, I suppose, to create rules for the individual IP's, though in practice this would be extremely tedious, and there is a definite ceiling on the number of rules you can create, anyway.
Jerry, sounds like your over-zelous antivirus got upset about eMule sending mail. At least it works now, and that is the main thing.
pabloz, looks like you got hit by my site quota, which should now be fixed. (deleting the 3MB video didn't help at all, seems I was very over-quota. log files, say no more.) Feel free to post again if you're still having troubles.
goozol, please start again at the top of the comments, this time reading them! If you are feeling lazy, just search the page text for "advanced", or something; you'll soon find what you need. That "troubleshooting" page is becoming a priority...
for now..
;o)
Thanks Cor for the quick reply.
The only problem is its not obvious to me how one enables/disables the UPnP on the router. I know that the router supports UPnP (its says so on the product sheet and I've checked with BT)and have thus far been assuming that the UPnP is turned ON by default. I've turned on the UPnP within XP (home edition). Any suggestions as to how I can turn ON the UPnP inside the router?
Also, judging by what's written under the heading Internet Connection Sharing using ICS/NAT at http://messenger.msn.com/Help/Issues.aspx its not obvious to me that turning the UPnP in the router will be sufficient to solve the problem. From my browsing thus far the only sure way seems to be to open up the aforementioned ports. Can you tell me how I exactly do this and any accompanying NATs rules that may be necessary. I was messing about with the web based GUI for the router and think I know how to do it (by comparing it to stuff written on this site by your kind self), but am not at all confident that I've got it right. Your assistance would be much appreciated.
Cheers.
bt voyager 205 is infact a dynalink RTA500-D51. i opened mine up and that is what i found can provide pictures if needed but the label on the underside of the board cleary stated RTA500-D51 with bar code and number under that and then another label with the mac: address on it
a few more specs for you
BT Voyager 205 (aka RTA500-D51)
chipset: GS8120-174-008D (CPU+DMT), GS3780-174-001Z (AFE), ESMT M12L64164A 7T (64M SDRAM flash memory), ATmel AT45DB161B (GSV-VIKING), Realtek RTL8201BL 10/100MB Single-port PHYceiver
hey cor mate i aint got it all sussed yet but i just wonna thank you for this page THANX
actually if ya cud i cud do wi sum elp (as if u never saw that comin)
ive been reading the posts and the origional instructions and i cant seem to figure out how to forward a port range to my pc (its probly obvoius nd i aint read it right but for example after i have logged into telnet with my usname and pass how do i create a rule to forward ports 49001-49010 ip 192.168.1.3 for both udp and tcp
i can create the rules fine with the default interface but only for one rule a simple example will suffice and then i can adopt that as a template for other rules in the future
Yo!
Jet, aye your right, UPnP should be enabled by default. You can check by issuing (in a telnet session) ..
get upnp cfgIt should report "Next Boot Status : enable"
or something like that. You say the video works fine, so I'm guessing UPnP is enabled, and perhaps creating rules for only the audio would suffice, so we'll start with these rules, which allow TCP and UDP traffic only on port 6901..
firewall:
create ipf rule entry ruleid 6901 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq num 6 destport eq num 6901 seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 6901 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq num 17 destport eq num 6901 seclevel high medium low
nat:
create nat rule entry ruleid 6901 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.3 lcladdrto 192.168.1.3 destportfrom num 6901 destportto num 6901
assuming "192.168.1.3" is still the correct IP of your private machine. This may be all you need, try it and test again. If it's still not happening, we can move on to opening the big hole.
boff, check the Standard BitTorrent section of the recipe's page, swapping the port ranges and IP for your own. Then repeat the first (firewall) rule but use
transprot eq num 17instead oftransprot eq num 6But, question: do you really need a range? If it's Azureus you're running (just a guess/update promo), check out the new Azureus section, which is worth a look anyway, if only for the unusual use of smileys-in-a-regular-article.Ian, Good Call! I was at the dynalink site last night, following your hint (I'm presuming it was you) above, downloading some RTA100+ papers, but the rear connexions looked too different to be our Viking. There's nada on their site about this model, apart from an "express setup" which looks interesting; I don't imagine it would be that difficult to hack BT's parameters into its .cfg file and zap the black box. PaPA, you still got that zapped 205 kicking around? Fancy a shot at ressurection?
Our trusty Viking will likely be appearing under many disguises over the next few months, so these sites will certainly be worth keeping an eye on, Dynalink's updates look way more comprehensive than anything we could expect from BT, that's for sure!
thanks all, this page just keeps getting better and better, keep 'em coming, even the flowers!
for now..
;o)
I think that finally finding this site could be a gods send for me. I have found more help in the headline of this webpage than I got from talking to BT advisers for 20+ hours. I'm quite good with PC's and been a single mum means I have to do everything! I have had massive problems since buying this router so that my son can play on his xbox in his bedroom.
Basically this is what I need to do:
*Connect router to PC using USB
*Connect XBOX to router using ethernet, and use xbox live efficiently.
*The only other 2 programms I'm worried about for now are bittorent and Kazaa lite.
Since I set it up my son has not been able to connect to some servers or cant hear some of his friends when playing certain games.
I really don't want to tamper with the natural settings of the router too much, all I want is for the above to all work! My main problem was the "configuration manager" would keep refreshing, but I think I've solved this using the cache method above.
Cor, can you give me a few links as to what you would advise as the main things to do to my router. ie. port forwarding, DMZ. I read above about entering the DMZ in the xbox dashboard, but is that safe to do? what if i do that and he cant connect to any games whatsoever!!!
I noticed that you were online a few moments ago, if you still are, I could perhaps chat to you on that live programme and you could guide me through, tommorrow maybe?
Thanks very much for this site.
OK so the time is a bit buggered, you were online a few hours ago!!! I'm an insomniac trying to get this sorted!!!!!!
Hi,
What an excellent resource for the Voyager router...it's helped me sort out port forwarding....Does anyone else have a problem with the router locking up, and showing all five lights on....It happens around once a day, and can be corrected by switching off and then back on...
Thanks in anticipation
Paul
I have solved the bittorent problem by turning off the firewall within the router, and I am using Norton PF on the PC.
However the xbox problem still persists, I have tried configuring the IP addresses and DMS server as you stated above but still no luck.
I phoned Microsoft and they have told me that I need to configure it so that:
"The IP of your xbox is in the DMZ of the router"
How would I go about doing this? I've been in the DMZ settings and tried creating a new rule, but it always says "failed".
Getting frustrated now!!
sorry Emma, the last time I was in the chat, I didn't log off properly, it looks like I'm there when I'm not. I was still awake though!
The XBox setup is still an unknown, no one's got back here with anything concrete, and I still haven't received one in the post!
First off, USB is trouble, particularly if you want to run torrents and kazaa on the peecee. If your single-mum budget could stretch to a decent switch box (£20-£25) it would be money well spent, and could save lots of potential future troubles and headaches (for me too! heh)
Ensure you have given the XBox a static IP before you attempt to put it into the DMZ..
1) go into the XBox dashboard and give it a static (manual) IP address, say 192.168.1.4 (make a note of the current settings before you do this, probably "automatic", or something like that) For the default gateway, use 192.168.1.1, Subnet Mask will be 255.255.255.0
2. Still in the XBox dashboard, go to DNS server and enter..
Config: Manual
Primary DNS: 192.168.1.1
Alternate DNS: 212.159.11.150
THEN enter that IP (192.168.1.4) into the DMZ. We'll likely need some firewall rules on top of that, too, I'll try and put something together over the weekend, but it won't be pretty, and will be 100% guesswork!
If you strike gold in the meantime, take notes and let us know!
Paul, are you by any chance using BT Communicator VoIP software? It can cause your router to do this, as I have myself discovered. BT are aware of the issue, but haven't released a fix yet.
;o)
actually, it might prefer you to create the DMZ first, and THEN add the XBox, erm. try both!
/me wonders if I can put some sort of XBox emulator on a peecee..
;o)
how easy is it to delete a nat rule once you've entered it? problem is; i copied yr nat rule for bit torrent into my tel, but then realised my ip is 192.168.1.4 not 192.168.1.3. oh dear i'm a plank!!!! tried to re-write rule, but it jus says entry already exists.dohh!!! any help greatly appreciated.
seamus, worry not, it's easy to delete rules, in the web interface, just click the dustbin icon next to the rule, or else in a telnet session (copied from this very page, main article *sigh*)..
delete nat rule entry ruleid 6881;o)
Just wanted to say thanky you for this information, its an absolute gold mine, last night i was looking into sorting out the modom's "built in firewall" and customize it to improve my connections such as eMule etc..
And it was a *long* read (but worthwhile!)
Guess what i'll be doing when i get home tonight
Regards
Xander
Papa do you still have that brick if so when plugged in do you get any lights if you get ether then you should be able to resurrect it to virgin box using weird solutions TFTP client 2.0 i can provide virgin flash with correct mac address if you need it i just need mac address of unit to edit TEImage.bin
How do I get my webserver working!? My public IP address keeps going to my default gateway (router config page) instead of my private IP address (webserver)
Any suggestions???
ta very much cor. i'll give it another go
anonymous, your webserver is working fine, it says..
"Welcome to Abyss Web Server X1"
etc, etc. what's happening is that your local machines resolve that IP (correctly) to the router, and when the router is accessed (on port 80) from the LAN side, you get the config page. From the WAN (internet) side, it works just fine. I was your first visitor!
Borrow someone else's desktop and test it out for yourself! (the wonders of terminal services!) There are a few websites that will do it for you, too. google for online seo test or something like that, to have a distant webserver scan your site. just thinking out loud. corzoogle this site for personal density analyser
Thanks for the clarification Ian, I'll probably edit the old post, but currently my site quota thing is still causing problems, and frankly, I'm concerned the whole thing (comments file) will vanish on me if I try. I have a back-up, of course, but uploading it, at this time, may be impossible.
By the way, I wouldn't mind a copy of that virgin .bin file for myself, en cas de besoin...
;o)
oh, and Xander, you might want to get a bottle in, just in case. *wink*
;o)
anonymous, if you use a real nickname to post here, I'll give you a seriously cool way to test out your own site, in your own browser!
;o)
Cool! How did you find out my IP address?
P.S: Locally, my virtual paths work but via my domain it's coming up "The page cannot be found".
The IP was easy, every request to a website has got to be from somewhere. For my added convenience, poster's IP's and email addies are available from my admin page.
The only way I could have been fooled is if you had used a proxy server, and THAT, dear paul, is how you access your own private website from inside your LAN!
TADA!
Google for free proxy servers, find a fast one (the non-anonymous servers are faster, less peeps use them), configure your browser to use it (many browsers can be configured from their preferences, or else your internet connexion settings will do it), and test test test!
Damn! Where's a PayPal button when ye need one!
;o)
So how will configuring a proxy server enable access to virtual paths via my public domain/IP address?
Also, what is the seriously cool way to test out your own site, in your own browser?
Add me to MSN using that email address if you prefer...
dude, that *is* the cool answer! Use a proxy server! TADA! That's it!
Using a proxy, you access your webserver as if you were outside, because that is exactly what you are doing, surfing via the proxy.
As for virtual servers and stuff, you'll maybe want to leave a comment elsewhere onsite about that, like here.
I don't do MSN, but if you want to hop into my site chat, I'll be around for a wee while yet.
;o)
What is the URL for your chat site?
Via proxy, the page cannot be found. Everything else works fine.
maybe the proxy was duff. always hit google first to check if it's working before you start to use it (also a handy loction indicator for proxies of unknown origin!).
Mind you, I can't get anything at you IP any more, either. Is the server still running?
;o)
ps.. click the link under my (almost invisible) smiley in the toolbar.
Yeah the server is up and running. In chat now...
Cor i have zipped up the virgin image file with a plain text file on the preset mac address and usb address that will need to be changed to the mac address on the sticker under voyager 205 once flashed, i have also included the pictures of the insides of the 205. where can i send it size 2.17mb
cheers ian
Hey! Thanks Ian, good work! You can either upload it here, or mail it to me at the usual address (click any of the smileys under all my articles, except these router ones for some reason, or hit my contact page - the almost invisible smiley).
paulwade25 no sign of you dude, nada, in chat, or your web server. Are you still in this subnet of the universe? Maybe that proxy's interfering. I've had a couple of peeps drop in today, so the chat's definitely still working, though I'm keeping the log file trimmed!
okay, back to deleting files! This effin quota's crazy, feels like me boat's leaking and I'm bailing..
note to self: don't piss off hosting company admins, even if they have it coming.
;o)
Cor,
Yes...spot on. I was using BTYahoo Communicator...I've found the page on the BT site, and they have recognised the problem. I gather a fix is in beta....I'll just stop using the Communicator until I can upgrade the firmware.
Thanks again.
Paul
cor all uploaded as per link
Hmm
Stealthed the router successfully, tested it on that gcn.com link you provided and all ports were stealthed fine.
Wanted to open up (unstealth) two ports for eMule,
Tested the ports via your's and the gcn port tester, only one port was listed as closed 4662, the other 4672 is stealthed...
And in eMule, i can connect to the eD2k, but Kad is showing up as connecting (which i assume is using the 4672 port)
Any tips?
Thanks
Xander
p.s. no software firewall enabled, winXP firewall disabled, etc etc etc
tried removing the firewall command, and nat command for both ports and re-insert them to no avail...
Xander.....
hey i had soooo much trouble at first with your kinda problem but thanx to the wonderful person that calls himself COR my probs are sorted!! i had a similar problem to yours and i changed the port from 4662 to 6883...the thing is alot of the isp's use 4662 so i'm guessing it kinda gets jammed...i seriously get speeds of 100kb/s plus now. as a side issue you seriously don't need kad running as far as i can tell it doesn't do alot for ya and doesn't cause any probs closing it! hope this helps you...if not you will have to wait for the expert to help ya!
i did a reboot minimum in telnet (not recommended) to see what default software was and surprise surprise not v1.1 as reported by get system but infact:
VIK-2.1.040426d1 create user name admin passwd admin root size maxvc 8 max1483vc 8 maxppe 8 modify ppp global keepalive enable modify system contact "GlobespanVirata Inc.,100 Schulz Drive, Red Bank,NJ 07701,U.S.A" model "Viking" location "GlobespanVirata Inc.,100 Schulz Drive, Red Bank,NJ 07701,U.S.A" vendor "GlobespanVirata Inc.,100 Schulz Drive, Red Bank,NJ 07701,U.S.A" logthresh 1 systime "Jan 26 12:39:37 2005" timezone "GMT" name "voyager" dname "home" magicnum 79 modify bridge mode
Starting POST - V2.2
SDRAM ... Loader Checksum ... Passed
Failed
Address: Expected == , Actual == 00 Boot Error
IMG1 MANU 123456789abcdx Unused VIKING-SPARC Eth0,USB 5776,2305
it seems bt want to hide what the real version running on these boxes are. ?????
ok thanks will try that... it wasnt 4662 that was the problem its 4672... going to change it now
Will let u know how i get on
Cheers
Xander
Nope didnt work.... going to leave it for a few mins to see if things improve (as i did mention it takes a short while for things to kick in)
Xander
hey xander in the kad network it also has a "RECHECK FIREWALL" button click that to retest it...sometimes it kickstarts it into opening or you could try bootstrapping???
Just tried clicking on Recheck firewall and bootstrap buttons... nothing seems to be happening other than the "Kad:connecting" in the bottom left
If you think kad is useless how do u disable it from trying to connect? Disable UDP in preferences?
Xander
p.s. Thanks 4 ur help :o)
Yaay its connected (both are now) cheers :o)
Now gotta figure out how eMule works
Xander
Uh oh, Kad Network says Status "Firewalled"
my ip at port 6883
hmmm wierd as i have opened that port....
Xander
hey xander if you wanna disable kad just disable it in the kad network....it will then say dis-connected in your servers page...i really don't have it running. if you havn't used emule before it's best to download at least 6 files at the same time...between 6 and 20 is good but in your preferences make sure you click the tab which suits how many files you are downloading.
hmmm *now* kad choses to work!
got eD2K on High ID and Kad status as Open now
Thanks for the help was starting to pull my hair out, after putting it in (the settings) in the router for the umpteen time (i swear if i typed commit *one* more time.....)
Guess it was slow to update for some reason... never mind its working now :o)
Cheers
Xander
Interesting stuff Ian, very.
More interesting because, if my memory serves me correctly, the latest version of available firmware from Dynalink and others is 2.1.something. hmm. I wish BT had a clue, and then a real technical manual for this thing.
I'm not surprised they want to keep us in the dark. They'd deny it was a Globespan router altogether if it didn't say so in the telnet session, probably even then. Their "technical staff" are often quoted as saying "Use the web interface, it's more configurable that way". Hello? One thing's certain, if you annoy them enough, they eventually come round. I mean, you can even pay your internet on your phone bill, you don't think that was their idea, do you?
Got yer file too, thanks. Will investigate soon.
And you tell 'em claire! 120Kb/s downloads ARE possible! So you might suffer a couple of nervous breakdowns on the way, but hey, that's life! I'm just gonna sit back and watch the Xander situation for a while, methinks.
for now..
;o)
see! sometimes you just gotta wait a minute!
;o)
now then m8y just to let you know i wonna forward a range o ports 4 online gamin cos all ov em use ranges of about 100 ports
ill chack the recipe section tho dood nd see if i can get it sorted that way
l8r
cor over the next few days i will put a guide together on backing up the flash image and restoring using tftp client 2 form weird solutions its quite handy for uploading/downloading the committedcfg.cfg file as well. does anyone know what other files are stored on the router? hope the pics and virgin flash with guide were ok
Good day to all,
I configured my router, stealth, static 1.3, port fwd for emule. It works fine (high id) but only for 30 minutes.After this period everything stops, no or limited connection.
Any idea guys?
Thank you
I'm in chat now (1:40pm)
Please email me because I need to get this sorted asap!
Everything (bar my website) works fine via the proxy server - numerous tried and tested.
any1 got any idea how to get a ps2 online with this thing. it worked a few times before i started messing around with the settings on the 205 (but as if i were leavin it like that) and now nothing! even when ive reset it and all settings are returned to default it still dont work. strange i think but wot dyall think any idea any1
Jerry
try this from the rule entry above ^^^modify ppp global pppsesstimer nevertimeout. hope it works for ya.
Snif, snif,
I will start crying.Claire I tried it and now the 30 minutes became 2.Everything stops in 2 minutes.Please guys if someone uses emule with high id my e-mail is jerry_thm@yahoo.com .
I'm begging for the solution of the pazzle.
Best regards,
Jerry
Please someone try http://81.152.**.** and tell me what happens.
Thanks
Jerry..
just out of interest are you using USB? if so i had the same problem and the issue was resolved by using etherlink as opposed to USB.
i haven't dropped connection since.. (thanks Cor/Barney/Clarke for the solution :)
hope this helps
paul
sorry tried 3 times and all i got was " web site not found" :{
thanks claire - any ideas? read earlier posts.
Ahh, the server is back!
Where was I? Right, first Ian, thanks, that'll be superb. As to the other files on the unit, well, funnily enough, I was raking about in there the other night, and downloaded them all to my puter, there's a rar of what I got in the public folder. I should mention that I'm fairly certain I haven't got all the files, for a start, there's no access to the /hag/ folder, where the BT interface lives, but there's some other interesting stuff, default configs, shell scripts and things. grab it!
jerry, like ^coke said, this definitely smells of USB.
paulwade25, use a proxy server and test it yourself! I been having lots of fun with my backup dev mirror at corz.ath.cx, browsing via a proxy at, erm, 162.38.132.8:80 (shh! I didn't give you that IP!) enter that as your proxy address and you need us no more! At least not for testing.
If you use an app like InvisibleBrowsing, you can switch the proxy effect on and off at will, Fastbrowser will allow you to do a similar thing. Most browsers will. I doin't think the concept has quite sunk in yet, please do try this!
I'll be in my site for an hour or two if anyone needs urgent assistance!
;o)
Yeah I know, I was just clutching at straws! Proxies are fine, but it's still not working...
Hi cor,
shame about the blacklisting.
try this might not make a significant difference but i have turned my clock update off as it may use some valuble bandwidth.
$modify sntp cfg disable
is there any harm in doing this other than timed port blocking may not be as accurate?
PS Thanks for this great page.
yeah, digitaldazz, if we could plug-in safepeer or something, that would be most useful. maybe one day.
As for the clock, I don't think you'll notice the difference. It only checks the time every 64-1024 seconds (depending on how askew it is), and it's no more than a couple of small packets each way, so probably not worth disabling.
paulwade25 your server was working, I visited it. And mine works just fine (if a little slow), so running a webserver with this router is possible, even easy. Something must be broken or blocking yours.
When I troubleshoot network connexions, I start at source, that is, where the request is coming from. In your case, this is "outside". That'll be you via your proxy for now, so simply insert a proxy and hit google. If google loads, we can move on. If not, get another proxy and hit google again. I always hit google whenever I load a new proxy.
Next the router. Is it stealthed? No other firewall rules are present? If you reboot the unit, it (annoyingly) inserts some rules automatically. At least one of these will mess up your ability to run a webserver, so revove them.
Next, ensure you have a rule for port 80 allowing incoming traffic.
create ipf rule entry ruleid 80 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq num 6 destport eq num 80 seclevel high medium lowThen check your NAT rules, is the port 80 rule redirecting traffic to the correct machine? is it TCP?
create nat rule entry ruleid 80 rdr prot num 6 lcladdrfrom 192.168.0.100 lcladdrto 192.168.0.100 destportfrom num 80 destportto num 80Check every aspect, make sure something obvious isn't wonky. Often it's the obvious things we overlook. For instance, ensure you have disabled WAN-side web access to the administration interface..
modify mctl access httpwanaccess disableNext the webserver itself. Can you access it from localhost? (the same machine) From your LAN? Does it work normally? If not, fix it, if it's okay, move on..
Is there a firewall running on the server box? It may be allowing LAN traffic, but denying outside traffic. If you are using a virtual host (wise), does it match your dyndns address? like corz.ath.cx does..
From my virtual hosts file.. (maybe you keep yours in your httpd.conf *tsss* ;o)Check everything and test Test TEST! every step of the way!
If it still doesn't work, you may want to consider hiring in an expert, so email me!
Running a webserver isn't for amateurs; unless you are prepared to delve into it, you're probably not suited to the task. Seriously, that's not a judgement, that's just the way it is. Nothing's for nothing.
;o)
Hi cor,
just wondering if you could help me again. I want to connect a serial port to the router is there any way you can do this. i want to try rewriting the image code and reflash it but want to be able to recover from a bad flash just in case. i heard that the 205 is similar to the sar 110.
any comments would be appreciated.
thanks
cor updated specs:-
BT Voyager 205 (aka RTA500-D51)
chipset:
GS8120-174-008D (CPU+DMT)
GS3780-174-001Z (AFE)
ESMT M12L64164A 7T (64M SDRAM memory)
ATmel AT45DB161B TC GSV-VIKING (16Mb Flash memory, 2.7-Volt Only Serial-Interface Flash with Two 528-Byte SRAM Buffers)
Realtek RTL8201BL 10/100MB Single-port PHYceiver
i`m going to open her up to see if i can trace the tracks for the 6pin header next to the flash chip and see if they can be used in the same way as the solwise 110 com port, i let you know how i get on, cheers got part home dir see if i can get any more
cheers ian
Ian / Cor
the pins next to the flash chip are as follows
1 . cs chip sselect
2 . sck serial clock
3 . si serial input
4 . so serial output
5 . wp hardware page write protect pin
6 . reset chip reset
7 . rdy/busy ready busy
i have looked inside the 205 and there seems to be a chip missing for the serial extension to the back of the unit, but the device should be flashable directly to the chip.
any good at serial interface's ?
ps . flash chip info
http://www.atmel.com/dyn/resources/prod_documents/doc2224.pdf
Hi Cor,
I tried your suggestion of opening up port 6901 to overcome the problems with MSN Messenger audio, but it did not work. This may be because port 6901 is no longer used for the audio (I read this on http://www.mcse.ms/message1311495.html). Anyway, I think what needs to be done is to open up ports 5004 to 65535. I tried to do this myself, but failed (I opened up the all the UDP ports in the range of interest and then set up a NATs rule as per your example for the bittorrent NATS rule under your ports forwarding section, but making the necessary changes in respect of UDP ports and port numbers).
Could you please write down exactly both the IP filter rule(s) and the accompanying NAT rule(s) that will succeed in allowing me to do this.
A couple of things that are confusing me:
Is it possible to write one single NATs rule to forward a whole rage of ports or is it the case that a single NATs rule can only be used to forward a single port (e.g. to open up 20 contiguous ports do 20 distinct NAT rules need to be used)? Does your example of the NATs rule for the bittorent ports forward a whole range of ports or is it in effect assigning port 6881 to poert 6889.
When I go to the servers eb based GUI why does the URL appear as http://192.168.1.2/hag/pages/home.htm? Should it not be http://192.168.1.1/hag/pages/home.htm given that the ip address of the router is 192.168.1.1.
Sorry if these are really stupid questions, but I thought I would ask anyway.
Thanks again in advance for provideing the correct correct IP filter and NATs rule.
I'm up and running now - 81.152.**.** but the DNS from my domain isn't working!!!
Doesn't matter - I will just forward my domain to my IP address instead of using FTP.
Thanks for all your help!
Hi, i see you know alot about the voyager 205, could you be able to help me please.
Erm what it is, i want to host an Football Manager 2005 game, but my router wont let anyone connect to my computer, i'm just woudering how i would do that.
I've put my email address onto this message, i would be greatful if you could help me.
thanks
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE someone help me out on this one as far as i am concerned i am for cancelling my 1MB package with BT - the technical service are useless!!!!!!!
Anyway - i have managed thanks to this great site to get my ports open to use Azerus for my file sharing program. Only 1 MAJOR issue to sort it and that is i leave my computer running for a bit and when i come back to it it seems to have disconnected from internet. i cannnot access webpages, nothing is downloading.
I have to connect through my USB port which this site talks about connecting through ethernet port - my reason being i connect to my x box too. My x box connection has NO problems only my PC.
Also i find i can be browsing internet and my MSN messenger will sign itself out - although i can still browse the internet - i know its not messenger as i have an old ADSL modem which works with no problems in the least!!!!!! Not compatable with X box though.
I have check my USB power option not to switch off and also my Router card options not to power off. What else can i try?? Anyone got any ideas? I hear people talking about looking at the routers log to see whats going on but were do i find this??
Please someone help me - honestly i am getting depressed (i know thats sad but the amount of time i have wasted on this router is unbelievable!!!!) Why can't things just be simple - i used to like my PC now i think i HATE it!!!!!
Hi Paul
Have you used these commands in a telnet session yet to keep the ppp link live and to stop them timing out yet:
modify ppp global keepalive enable
modify ppp global pppsesstimer nevertimeout
Paul,
I used to have the same problem with the voyager 100 on a USB
They dont like to hit the upload and download limits , the caps. I used a program called net limiter to restrict the programs that were using download and upload - torrents - emule etc..
you can select each program and allocate a certain level for use eg 20k upload. I would keep the total to about 22K upload.
and set a total of download to whatever your bandwidth cap is.
Doing this solved the problem and it never went off again.
Hello all,
Great site Cor.
Can anyone help with a prob I have pls ? If I set my connection to obtain IP and dns dynamically I get nothing nada even thou the dsl status says connected. But if I set to static for ip & dns it works but not very well. Can someone tell me how I can force the router (205) to obtain settings dunamically pls ?
The settings I have to change are the tcpip properties in xp.
Thx for any help.
Hi folks. Don't you guys ever take a day off?
Right, flashing, I've not looked into this, but my first thought is "isn't the USB port a serial interface?" I could do with a second unit to test all this stuff out; my only other BB modem is an old Intel Anypoint, and USB broadband modems are a waste of time, at least for my needs. Maybe I should ask BT for one, seeing as how we're doing their job for them. hmmm.
Paul , you don't need to use USB. Get a switch box (very cheap - a NIC and switch will cost around £25 all-in) and use ethernet. We can't help you with a USB connexion, it's simply too problematic. You're right about BT's "technical help", though. In the meantime, listen to what digitaldazz says about upload speeds. Ensure you never go above 80% of your maximum. In practice, this means, don't go higher than 25Kb/s. Get ethernet, and try again!
Kaveh, we need more information. What ports it uses, etc, etc. You may want to just create a DMZ and put your puter in it (with a good firewall running, of course).
Ace, I don't think I understand your problem. Do you mean you want your computer to get it's IP dynamically? (why oh why????) or something else? It's the phrase "force the router (205) to obtain settings dunamically" what throws me. The 205 ALWAYS get's it's settings dynamically (from the ISP), it's how your computer gets it's settings that matters. Get back to us with more info, or better yet; what you are trying to achieve.
PaulWade, your domain works fine, but loading the frame (frames! *tssss*) fails. This isn't a long-term solution anyway, as soon as your IP changes, you'd need to edit that page. Why not setup a dynamic DNS for now, for testing? Later, you can redirect the domain. What I'm saying is; one step at a time. If you can't access with a raw IP, it's pointless to move on to web redirections and framesets and shit.
Bad news about the MSN audio, jet, like I said, I don't use it. If you really must open up all those ports, first, ensure you have a decent firewall running on the local machine, and then issue these commands to the router..
create ipf rule entry ruleid 5004 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq num 17 destport range 5004 65535 seclevel high medium low
create nat rule entry ruleid 5004 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.4 lcladdrto 192.168.1.4 destportfrom num 5004 destportto num 65535
That will allow incoming UDP connexions on ALL ports between 5004 and 65535, and redirect them to a machine at 192.168.1.4. Simply alter the IP to match your own.
As for the web interface address, weird! Have you altered the IP of the router to this? Normally, that's the address of the USB connexion. Does 192.168.1.1 still work? And there's nothing plugged in the USB port, no? strange. Anyway, remember, there's no such thing as a stupid question, only stupid answers. So feel free to fire away.
Okay, I'm still half asleep, and this answer feels a bit stupid.
more coffee required!
;o)
Cor
I have ethernet connection as you know
and I can get to the interface on both
IPs 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.1.2
with the sticker still over the usb port.
barney
Thanks for getting back to me. Think the download and upload speed might be the route of the problem (that was not suppost to be a joke). Think i will go with the idea of this switch box so i can use my ethernet connection. I take it i won't have to worry about being timed out because of upload and download speeds when connected through ethernet? Will i still set my computer the way described about with this box? I have never heard of them but going to ask at PC world today - is it like a hub? I added those lines about nevertime out ect - was sure they were already in place but telnet accepted the commands again - so its on now - going to work - will check it out when i get back again. Can i just say thanks again for the advice - don't known what i would do without this site - put it this way my router would be well on its way back to BT!
Thanks again
Paul
That's interesting barney, mine isn't available from .2 at all. och well, so long as it works, I suppose
Good news Paul, ethernet is definitely the way to go. But even with ethernet, you have to keep an eye on upload speeds. If you max out your upload bandwidth, it won't kill your connexion any more, but it will kill your downloads.
You see, the reason TCP/IP is so reliable is that for every packet you send (or rather, a server sends), an "ACK", or "Acknowledgement Packet" gets sent in response, sort of a "yup, got that, NEXT!". If the server (or any application acting as a server, which includes other bittorrent clients, etc) doesn't receive the ACK, it assumes you never got the packet and re-transmits it. It will also slow the rate of transfer, assuming it is sending them to quickly for you to handle.
Ergo, if you upload capacity is saturated, there's no bandwidth left to send back the ACKs, and your downloads will slow to a crawl, even stop altogether. So now you know!
;o)
You've probably noticed that the comments section was getting a bit, erm, LONG! Incredibly, there are 233 comments so far! Yikes! It was starting to make my browser ache.
Anyways, I hacked in this cute page facility, now we get twenty (configurable) comments at a time, though the option to view them all in one big lump remains.
If anyone experiences any weirdness with this new functionalty, please email me, rather than leave a comment about it!
;o)
hi cor,
might be able to get my hands on a 205 for you to test out a flash.
dont suppose you live in the Northeast ?.
please email if interested.
Aye, I do! The Northeast of Scotland!
you got mail!
;o)
cor digitaldazz
after downloading the firmware for the bt voyager 240 4 port router (i was curious) it seems bt link dynalink designs as when i opened it up in ultra edit 32 it seems the voyager 240 = RTA 230 ?
the proof:
first few lines of 240 Firmware V2.14.02.17 file.
6 RTA230 1 1635116 3217031168 64152 3217096960 991232 3218088192 579732
Went to PC world and they never knew about this switch thing - they advised me to get a router. I went for this, set it up, plugged my Voyager 205 adsl router into my new LINKSYS router but when doing this the new router shows it has an internet connection - however not able to connect to internet and it comes up an error during setup about no being able to connect. Take i should not have followed the PC world advice and got another router (not a modem just a router) I don't think i am suppost be go online - maybe this is a sign!!! lol Going back to PC world tommorow - think i might just go for a new router/adsl modem built in that supports more than 1 ethernet device? Agree?
Paul
what you need is a switch or hub
current pcworld stocked switches
Canyon 5 Port Fast Ethernet Switch £ 8.11 (exc VAT)£ 9.53 (inc VAT)
Q-TEC 780SH 5 Port Switch Hub UK £ 7.67 (exc VAT)£ 9.01 (inc VAT)
Dynamode 5 Port 10/100 Switch N-Way Desktop £ 7.31 (exc VAT)£ 8.59 (inc VAT)
i listed them in order of preference, basicaly a switch is like a hub except it has controling software that when it gets asked for information by a port it returns information back to that port where a hub sends it to all ports.
hope this helps
So Ian, it's official, BT are in cahoots with Dynalink. That's both eyes watching dynalink now. What is interesting is how BT felt the need to add a 10 to the model number. Probably 5 for the cute new BT web interface, and another 5 for removing some chips. Or more likely 10, for the number of hours you'll waste trying to fix the bloody thing because they screwed up the firmware.
I was going to say 10, because that's how much the unit (saving you £59.99!) actually costs, but then I realised its probably a lot less.
Paul, of course, if you move onto another router, we in the 205 squad will be real sorry to see you go, but if you have your own network path to tread...
I made one crash once with a single question; buying, or rather, pretending to buy, a hard drive.. "..so can I upgrade the platters at a later date?". watch the eyes (some of Chew's early work!). When they crash, an automatic mechanism sends them shuffling off in the direction of the nearest staff member with a beard; Who Has Actually Used A Computer. (just wait for the hate-mail!)
The answer is "Yes, but you'd have to send it back to the factory". That's okay, I do that with maxtor drives every six months anyway.
Dear Paul, if you'd read all the comments (and before I added this paginating thing today, there really was no excuse! time is a factor, okay, anyway..) you would have spotted the link to the Maplin device for £24 that is exactly what you need. It's like a hub, yes, only smarter. My fault for not incorporating this stuff into the main articles quick enough, devising new ones, again, time is a factor..
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=34826&TabID=1&source=15&WorldID=4&doy=9m1But of course, you've now spent money at PC world. hmmm.
In truth, I'm a bit stoned (yes, the visitor was most welcome, I needed a break) and the idea of hooking this router to yet another router just makes my head spin.
If you have a few bob, spend it at maplin (who more deserve your valued custom - remember, all their items are covered by a 30-day your-cash-back-if-not-happy guarantee, which I've tested) and get ink cartridges or something for your PC World bucks, gift voucher maybe.
It probly woodwork, but I never misses an opportunity to have a stab at PC World. And BT, of course. Oh, and maxtor. *ahem*
What model of LINKSYS?
;o)
ps.. I agree, it's a sign. Question is, what of?
hey! good prices!
;o)
And while I'm in the area, paulwade, http://81.152.**.**/ is working great! 22:58 (ignore this site's timestamps *sigh*) Whatever settings you are using now, KEEP EM!
;o)
cor
i`m trying to get hold of the rta100+ from aussie at mo, the only difference on the ports is that it has a console port and i want to see if the internal board is identical to our beloved btv205 if i is then the next step is to try and revive a 205 that has died or is free.
i thought you might find this interesting i found it yesterday a solwise hard reset hack (uploaded file voyager solwise 110 reset.txt)
Hey, i'm using a BT Voyager 205 router at the mo. Have the same old problems of overheating and reseting, no biggy. I'm on the 1meg BT broadband at the mo, but only able to download a max of 100kb/s. XP firewall settings are off, and followed all instructions here. Many concerned cos i use DC++ and wud like faster download speeds considering i am paying for 1meg. Anyone got any suggestions? Cheers
Thx for the reply Cor.
I seem to have fixed the problem of getting the router to work ok with dynamically assigned settings - it was windows XP - damn thing had DNS & DHCP set to manual - I changed them to automatic and now I can browse etc with settings assigned dynamically :)
One thing if anyone can help is at times web pages seem to grind to a halt for a short while then come in fine again - are there any settings I should change to stop this happening ?
Thx for any help ;)
Hi cor, remember me, the one that bought the wireless adsl router,,, wheeyyy. After a couple of days rushing back home at lunch time to configure and test i have now sucessfully configured the wireless router behind the star ship.COMFIRM, ANY WIRELESS ROUTER BEHIND THE VOYAGER HAS TO BE ON DIFFERENT SUBNET, i.e 192.167.1.1. Setting the IP address manually on the router will enable it to DHCP from the Voyager 192.168.1.1. After i got the router working i then had to manually reconfigure the static IP of the pc to be in same subnet of router. To get my web server running and ptop proggys working, i then changed the routing on the voyager to push through all data on specific ports to my new static ip and working a dream. And the biggest bonus of it all is that im effectively running 2 layers of security through NAT on each one. They are now a happy couple :geek. as i have new Asus K8 Mobo with 2 net cards in, im thinking about adding another layer but i think i might leave that till a rainy day. just though id let you know how i got on cor, keep up the good work man
I have a 205 ADSL router, Im trying to run xbox live but came across some problems with the IP settings. Xbox live support said I need to configure the router to recognise xboxs lives IP address. Does anyone know what this means and how to help me?
Im quite new to this and get a bit lost on the wordings..
Hi Cor
on the 27 1 05 you were replying to a plea for xob you wrote..
2. Still in the XBox dashboard, go to DNS server and enter..
Config: Manual
Primary DNS: 192.168.1.1
Alternate DNS: 212.159.11.150
THEN enter that IP (192.168.1.4) into the DMZ. We'll likely need some firewall rules on top of that, too, I'll try and put something together over the weekend, but it won't be pretty, and will be 100% guesswork!
did you ever do those fire wall rules?
thanks
for jet,
Check your subnet mask is 255.255.255.255 if in the UK
I had the same problem trying to speak with someone in the UK, I am in the states.
He is on BT, my connection worked with everyone else but him.
Bt had assigned a very dodgy subnet mask, he corrected it to the above and guess what..........perfect audio and video.
Prior to this the webcam would work but no sound and the same for audio.
Now we have perfect video conferencing.
hi
ok, got broadband about 2 months ago to play cod and other fps games and had so much trouble with it. Didn't get any help from the tech support at bt because they seem clueless zombies readin instructions from screens.All problems seem to point to the router settings because i have trouble on p2p file sharing sites, cod didn't work at all at first and i only get a few servers to join to and some links on the net don't work at all. Just wanna know if doin if it sounds as though this could be cured with port forwarding and the other stuff i've read about on this site and a few others. i'd be very grateful for any response , cheers
Ian! thanks for the upload! gonna throw that in the public archive laterz, once I've digested it better. looks like fun. it almost makes me wish my router was screwed so I could try it out!
thesimon2000 100Kb/s is pretty good. Are you sure that's not just how fast the other clients are sending? Check your actual top speed (with no other net apps running) at one of the many many broadband speedtest sites. If you can't get over 100Kb/s with any of them, maybe something's wrong, but probably not, probably you just have more folk on your exchange than I do! That's 50:1 contention for ya!
Ace, you might want to play around with the TCP/UDP time-outs (grab the Mackila's configurateur gui from my public folder if you have a windows box handy), and perhaps apply the max-tcp-connexions hack to XP (See same folder; I'm presuming you have XP SP2). Also make sure you're not using the USB connexion!
Chris, this is smashing! Can you mail me the details of all your settings/what you did? That would be very useful. I find the IP stuff confusing. But that could be just me, just now.
Same goes for you Paul, exactly where are you changing the subnet mask? Do you mean the private machines? This intrigues me. Subnet masks can cause all sorts of weird problems, I had an octet out on my mac for a while, shares would connect, but not automatically, shortcuts sometimes worked, sometimes not; was a silly error in the network config dialog, took me days to spot it! So, more details please!
xbox, Reggie Kray, anonymous (and to a lesser extent peecee gamers, mike), nah, I've not put together anything special for this yet, still no xbox/ps2 to play with. I created a DMZ here at home and put an old windows 98 laptop on it, just for fun. It's been running for a week like that! Now, in the real world, a windows 98 machine (with no security updates, ever) accepting public connexions on all ports wouldn't run a half hour without crashing, so simply "entering the IP into a DMZ" doesn't seem to have the effect that umpteen sites say it does.
What I planned to do was simply advise that you remove the second stealth rule and replace it with a rule to allow ALL inbound connexions, and then a simple NAT rule to route them to the IP of the games machine. In essence, anything that wasn't specifically covered by another rule (say, an eMule rule) would be sent to the games machine. I reckon that would fix things. If you have a good firewall running on your games peecee, you could do a similar thing with that. I'm sure you could figure out the syntax of the rules until I get around to writing that up! something like..
create ipf rule entry ruleid 500000 ifname public dir in act accept seclevel high medium lowcreate nat rule entry ruleid 50000 basic lcladdrfrom 192.168.0.254 lcladdrto 192.168.0.254
I have tried this, and it doesn't seem to interfere with any other communications, and certainly opens up the particular machine, follow that example at your own risk. maybe the regular "rdr" instead of "basic" would do the job. I can't really get my mind to settle enough to think about this stuff...
Between human and hardware deaths and other traumatic stuff, I've not really had a lot of time and peace to devote to router hacking this last couple of weeks, hopefully I'll get some soon and distil all the best feedback into the articles proper, maybe do a "troubleshooting" page, for all those common quibbles. etc. Patience isn't a virtue for nothing.
In the meantime, if anyone has some details of working XBox/PS2 setups using this router, I'd very much appreciate seeing those, it would be good to put down something definitive.
love and peace..
;o)
Nice stuff! I did the firewall scan and it says port 80 and 1024 are open. how can i close them?
PLease thanks!!!
Fae a fella highlander! :P
Hello again.
Another dumb question.... Should allmy ports be stealthed?
Thanks and keep up the good work!!
peeeeace
cor,
i was brave flashed my 205 with the rta100+ firmware (holds breath, sweating like mad) upload complete, all lights except power go out, diag light comes on (holding breath again), usb light comes on dsl light comes on ethernet light flickers, by now i`ve lost 2 stone by sweating, open browser 192.168.1.1, user login:admin password: admin (hey thats not my 205 inferface it says its a rta100+ (sigh of relief, my god look at all the options) no dsl connection argh vpi 5 vci 38 right change them to vpi 0 vci 38 put in user name/password connect, yes we have the net. the thing with the lights on th rta100+ they are:
power diag ethernet act dsl usb
voyager 205 are:
power diag dsl ethernet usb
so voyager lights now become:
Power Diag Dsl Ethernet Usb No light :old voyager 205
| | | | | |
Power Diag Ethernet Act Dsl USB :New voyager205
i am going to see if i can connect led for sixth light it will mean drilling small hole in case or getting hold of a voyager200/240 case as these are same size just have six light holes.
uploaded the firmware i used.
filename: rta100+ firmware plus manual.zip
regards ian
BTW i flashed back with no problems, i used tftp client 2.0 from weird solutions both times didn`t want to try http update in voyager interface.
to all,
if you attempt firmware switch as above make sure you have the rta100+ firmware not the rta100 (haven`t tryed rta100)also no usb support enabled in rta100 firmware apparently they are different i`m checking on this at mo.
so REMEMBER it must be the rta100+ firmware:
file name: rtaplus_2.1.040827a1.zip on dynalink.com.au web site
hopefully cor will add the firmware to the file archive.
it seems the usb light is optional according to the manual.
This was great...I'm just trying to teach myself all about my P.C & related stuff like using Limewire etc & this was so easy to understand, so Thanks :-) I am now going to go & find out about configuring my router so that I get faster downloads.....bye
i have now looked at the differences between the rta100 and the rta100+ firmware and there is a big difference in the firmware hag implimentation and supportting code, after looking on the solwise forum it seems that the rta100 firmware works on the 110 but the rta100+ does not,as the solwise firmware has already killed one 205, i would advise that you avoid the rta100 firmware and stick only to the rta100+ firmware. i am looking at the rta100+ firmware with a mind to change default vpi 8 and vci 35 to the bt used figures and also the user name. i`ll let you know how i get on.
Very useful information. I am having problems opening the ports can you help please
cor some very interesting info for you, i contacted dynalink for the sorce code or firmware editing tools for the rta100+ and this was there reply:
We cannot supply this code as we don’t have it. This code is not even held by the modem manufacturer it will only be held by globespan who make the chipset. You will need to contact them regarding this. The chipset is a Viking 2.
Ryan Jewell
Senior Technician
Dynalink Support
1800-653-962
Askey Australia
Unit 1
329 High Street
Chatswood
NSW 2067
so it seems that our little voyager isn`t quite the same as the solwise 110 but is infact the same as the solwise 130 she has the all grown up viking 2 chipset so this now clarifies things as such:
solwise 110,dynalink RTA100 = viking chipset
solwise 130,dynalink RTA100+,BT Voyager 205 = viking 2 chipset
so it seems that they dont always mark the chipset viking/viking 2 but just mark it viking ?
you learn something new every day.
Hi Ian,
just been reading your research and it sounds really promising.
I am thinking of flashing with 100+, can you see any advantages in this firmware over the bt modified firmware?
I have also got my hands on a non working 205. When powered up the USB light flashes and there are no other responses from it. Do you know of anyway to connect a serial (console port) to the motherboard without the missing chip ?
Thanks
Digitaldazz, the rta100+ firmware has so many options its hard to know where to start, to give an example the is a section where you can exclude protocals going through the router ie, appletalk tcpip etc ect it is some configurable it amazing just how much bt crippled it, you even have a firewall configuration screen that lets you choose indevidual options for dos attack etc, do you know what happened to the no working 205 was it flashed with wrong firmware etc, even though the ether light doesn`t come on when cable pluged in can you reach it on 192.168.1.1 it it was flashed incorrectly with solwise software you might be able to reach it on 192.168.7.1 ???, else if all else fails there is a hardware hack where by you short 2 pins on the internal connector 2nd and 3rd from front that should boot default basic config with ether enabled. if you can reach the 205 by 192.168.1.1/192.168.7.1 then you should beable to use tfpt client 2.0 to upload via ether.failing all else there is a little program that scans all ip address from 0.0.0.0 to 255.255.255.255 that might be able to see 205 if the default address has changed. hope this helps. if you need more advice just shout i`ll be around all day today.
Thanks for all your hard work, Ian, now what I'd really like to know is; what are the benefits? I presume there are no automatically inserted rules, is there anything else? What's the web interface like? Is it as limited as the BT one? Can we set more options in it, etc? It might be worth having a look at the hex of the update, see how hackable it is, perhaps there's some utility exists that allows it to be editied in a meaningful way, too. Interesting stuff.
Yo! yo Have you followed all the instructions above and in the stealth and recipes pages? Have you deleted the extra firewall rules, etc? Tell us what you're trying to do and how far you've got.. As for grim001, well, I just know you haven't read those pages at all. Go do that. I actually put some effort into them. Cindy says it was "easy to understand", and I agree! Try it!
ahh! just noticed your recent post in my admin page Ian (was composing this post in stages, multitasking) keep up the good work! You pre-empted me with the editing tools, gr8 idea! A hex editor, even, might be useful, could perhaps alter the vpi settings, make a 205 version.
k, I'll be back.
;o)
feck! and digitaldazz pre-emted me with the benefits! I gotta get up earlir!
(having hardware troubles (more!) my mac runs for ten minutes, dies. I see a linux desktop calling me...)
;o)
angey ip scanner cand be used to ping all address in a range it can be found here: http://ipscan.sourceforge.net/ipscan.zip
digitaldazz i`d recommend using above prog and setting a range of from 192.168.0.0 to 192.168.255.255 at first to see if it can find 205 only problem is it scans in 63 address at a time then you have to scroll window for it to continue.
hope this helps
cor i`ve contacted conextant techsupport uk with regards to firmware editing tools not allowed to call it globespan anymore since they where brought out,just waiting for a call back. fingers crossed, whats getting up earlier i have a two year old nght and day are just a blur
Toddlers! That explains why you never sleep!
Here's hoping for a firmware editing tool, that could prove to be most useful. I've added a wee "useful links" section (above the comments) with most of these links in it.
keep em coming!
;o)
ps.. who's "Globespan"?
cor links for tftp client 2.0 weird solutions
http://www.weird-solutions.com/bin/desktop/tftpc_free.exe - win98/2k/xp
http://www.weird-solutions.com/bin/desktop/tftpc-3.0-1257.suse.i386.rpm - linux suse rpm
http://www.weird-solutions.com/bin/desktop/tftpc-3.0-1257.rh.i386.rpm - linux red hat rpm
http://www.weird-solutions.com/bin/desktop/tftpc-3.0-1257.mdk.i586.rpm - linux mandrake rpm
a link to their download page with lots of other useful stuff http://www.weird-solutions.com/download/index.html
i put these links up as easier than putty not a lot can go wrong with these
digitaldazz any luck with that non working 205
cor uploaded rat100+ manual and guides zip covers zipb ps2configuring etc also included two files voyager205 and rta100+ defaults that i pulled from firmware just for comparison, forgot to include rdr pic on configuring will up load it now, hope these are interesting and help full
cheers ian
Hey folks just to keep you all updated, I have been talking to BT for the past few days about this router, the upshot of tests and upgrading the firmware to 1.6 we have found it still has problems with steam and lockups. So they are gonna replace mine for a 250 hopefully this is gonna be better than the 205.
http://www.voyager.bt.com/205/btbroadband/firmware_update.htm
Hi Ian/Cor,
HURRAY! JUST FLASHED THAT NON WORKING 205 WITH 100+ AND IT WORKS FINE. HAD A LITTLE TROUBLE GETTING IT TO RESET USING THE 2ND AND 3RD PINS - HAD TO RESET IT A FEW TIMES AND SWITCH IT OFF AND ON. EVENTUALLY ALL THE LIGHT START TO FLASH (EXCEPT THE DSL) AND IT ALLOWED ME TO FLASH ON 192.168.1.1 USING TFTP.
THANKS IAN GOOD ADVICE MATE.
digitaldazz
glad to hear that, i thught it might take a couple of tries as its a timing thing but hey it works..... how are you finding the 100+ firmware just a few more options opens up all sorts of possibilities at least when you change an advanced option you can see it rather than it being hidden behind the idiot proof web interface. any probs just ask i`ll try to help.
anonymous
thanks for firmware link, i downloaded it and compared it to v1.1 it seems that they have changed boot block and a bit of the firmware code but without gs`s firmware editing tools no way to tell what they`ve changed but knowing bt part fixed one problem and created more in the process.
Hi Ian/Cor,
Once again thanks mate.
The 100+ frimware looks great, put in all of Cors default rules using hyper terminal but actually the web interface looks easier than BT's. Need to read the userguide but glad to see this modem finally getting cracked. At least its nice to know you can recover from a dead router.( think this one was due to a sol 110 flash!)
GlobespanVirata Inc., Software Release VIK-2.1.040827a1
PS thanks for this cool site Cor!
Cheers
Can anyone help me in the most simple terms - I am trying to connect to a site I have used via a normal BT connection and now broadband will not let me communicate, its a video chat site called icuii.com. I dont want to change too much as I have no idea what I am doing,can anyone help me to make and receive calls on this site,
Thanks in advance
thanks alot you've been alot more help than the other web site's cheers
Hi.can anyone tell me if there is a config,that will improve game play when playing multyplayer online games ie.MOHAA,CoD.ect,
Ta!
Xbox Help!!!
I'm trying to solve a problem with my friends Xbox. Picture the scene, Two brothers, each with there own Xbox's and BT Broadband service (512K), and the wonderful BT 205 router. One brother lives in Scotland, and one London. I have ensured that both of there NAT setting are identical and Port Forwarding is configured as per the requirements of Xbox Live (UDP 88, UDP 3074, TCP 3074), and when checked on the Xbox Network setting's both have an NT (NAT) setting of 1 (which means they can in essence, play all users of Xbox Live. However, they still cannot play against each other?
I'm scratching my brain trying to troubleshoot this....any thoughts?
Best regards
Anton
Hey Ian.
Is there a telnet command for forwarding a range of ports at a time?
i'm quite happy with a software firewall, at the mo, so i'm not bothered too much about security. I just have to open up all the ports needed for MSN Audio conversations.
Cheers
Martin
Hey Ian.
Is there a telnet command for forwarding a range of ports at a time?
i'm quite happy with a software firewall, at the mo, so i'm not bothered too much about security. I just have to open up all the ports needed for MSN Audio conversations.
Cheers
Martin
Martin, i haven`t really play with port forwarding so can`t really say, but i do know msn audio uses dynamic port allocation which makes it hard to map rules to it even ms themselves say ideally you should set the modem/router to upnp and it does all the hard work for you, cor any thoughts on this for martin
cor/digitaldazz
i have just aquired an updated version of the solwise 130 viking2 firmware VIK-2.1.041108a1tbc dsl ver Y.1.42.2 it is a gobespanvirata web interface with nothing missing or edited out i just need to create a usb inferface setting make sure upnp and a few others are set and then you will be able to have a play with it. as usual lights all screwed up but hey i`m working on getting that sorted well sort of, the rta100+ firmware i have been playing with and have set all default options for bt in to it and have created a new teimage.bin so all you have to do is flash and your up and running, only down side i have found with this firmware is no access control for management control(web interface) at mo you can access it via wan which should be disabled by default,but i`m looking atgetting that sorted to.
right off to bed gotta sleep
Cool! was excited about FINALLY getting broadband but was stuck with BT
for various reasons. After a day of strife with it, found this page and all my
troubles were solved! easy to understand and execute! Zero previous knowledge
of BB or routers etc. Good with a Sig in Counterstrike tho! (where I've been since!)
Keep up the great work!
hi
I use Tesco adsl - I've been given a BTVoyager 205 - can i get this to work with Tesco? - are the bt settings in the router ? if so can I get at them and change tham to the tesco settings ? if so how - I'm a total router novice... using a mac osx 10.3.7
thanks
Dan
scrub that - it works.. used the pdf info to change the settings on the router - never used terminal before - nice.
Dan
I have a problem with the BT Voyager 200 router, after a while it disconnects from the ADSL, is there a default command which can be set to enable it to automatically reconnect once the session has died, without physically powering it down.
Jamin
Cor
i have got my hands on a utility that can extract and replace a default config in a bin file so i should be able to take the virgin flash and insert a default stealth config with no extra reoccuring rules, which means you can reset the 205 and it will be ready to go.
all thanks to a very nice person called chan (credit where its due)
well i've got a server Direct Connect DC in my Laptop and when connect more than 200 people it's close the connection.. anyone knows why is it happening?
ok my connection is "working properly" but when it has more than 150-180 connections on the server, something strange happen server refuse conections to open new ones
DC server and Zpoc Server
mad / serigo
with emule/edonkey Direct connect etc the solution is three fold.
1. lower connections in software to max 150
Using Telnet.
2. increase max number of ip sessions 205 can handle : modify nbsize maxipsess 512
3. decrease udp timeout setting from 300 so dead connections get dropped quicker allowing new connections : modify nat global udp timeout 120
dont forget to commit.
hope this helps
Ahh, had to go away for a few days, as I often do, thanks for holding the fort Ian.
First, great news about all the firmware stuff. Thanks to everyone mucking in, we'll get a firmware page together and get all this stuff on it. And fantastic news about the custom firmware Ian! The idea of a default all-in stealth-ready firmware rocks! keep at it dude! (and pass on my thanks to chan)
Okay, james, the icuii.comm setup is fairly straightforward. Ensure that icuii itself is set to use manual ports, remember the "obscure" tab, to ensure UDP traffic is also manual, then just add a few rules to the router..
firewall:
create ipf rule entry ruleid 2000 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq num 6 destport range 2000 2001 seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 2002 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq num 17 destport eq num 2002 seclevel high medium low
nat:
create nat rule entry ruleid 2000 rdr prot num 6 lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.3 lcladdrto 192.168.1.3 destportfrom num 2000 destportto num 2001
create nat rule entry ruleid 2002 rdr prot num 17 lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.3 lcladdrto 192.168.1.3 destportfrom num 2002 destportto num 2002
Alter the IP address (192.168.1.3) to match the IP of your own computer, of course.
Martin, check the recipes page for ranges of ports, particularly the first BitTorrent and Direct Connect rules, there's a few good examples scattered throughout the comments, too. In fact, your exact scario is covered.
Dan, Welcome to your terminal! enjoy your stay!
Jamin see the main article (above)
Anton, I wish I could be more help, gamers never seem to get back and tell us what works and what doesn't. See the previous page of comments for my "catch-all" strategy for games machines, and fingers crossed for a more robust solution in the hopefully not too distant future!
I'll be back..
;o)
ps.. congratulations digitaldazz! our first resuscitated router!
Sorry i should have been more clear in my problem.
Basically I have many routers connected remotely via the ADSL on public IP addresses on a 30 bit mask, the routers loose there connections sometimes and need to be rebooted however this means calling the user up at the remote site and getting them to reboot, this is time consuming, i was wondering whether a script could run on the router every 30 mins or so do see whether the WAN connection is still up, if it is not up, the router could do a reboot.
Thanks for your first response.
Hi, I cannot get access to the 205 Advanced Menu options (I can see them after logging on admin,admin but nothing happens if I click 'em) via my XP PC, I have tried via an old laptop running Win98 and it's fine. Both connected via Ethernet.
I'm running latest IE and Norton Security on the XP machine. I've tried switching of the Norton stuff, no joy. I'm guessing that something in IE is causing problems, can anyone point me in the right direction?
John you have got a firewall on somewhere
thats normally the reason
best
barney
i hope anyone can help me, i have recently got the 512KB connection on BT Yahoo Broadband i have the BT Voyager 205 router and every 3 - 4 minutes, my connection keeps going off and reconnecting but then disconnects again! - can some one please help me?
Thank You
Mark
If your'e connected by usb it
will happen get connected via
ethernet always on
best
barney
Hi, I cannot get access to the 205 Advanced Menu options (I can see them after logging on admin,admin but nothing happens if I click 'em) via my XP PC, I have tried via an old laptop running Win98 and it's fine. Both connected via Ethernet.
I'm running latest IE and Norton Security on the XP machine. I've tried switching of the Norton stuff, no joy. I'm guessing that something in IE is causing problems, can anyone point me in the right direction?
John as posted previously - try this.
Internet Explorer 6
Tools menu \ Internet Options \ General Tab \ In the Temporary Internet files select the settings button \ In the "Check for newer versions of stored pages" select "Every visit to the page" click ok and you are done.
cor/digitaldazz
nice to see you back cor, it gets lonely in cyberspace
i am working on getting a way with direct cable to programme 205 flash memory on 6 pin header inside all depends if i can get translation from chinese to english (fingers crossed).
can confirm that the bt firmware 1.6 is based on the vik. 2.1.041108a1tbc firmware that i have at the moment only crippled again, also i have a viking test utility that lets you upload and execute scripts so thought that we might be able to have that on site and a bunch of scripts for different things i.e stealthing common nat recipes etc so that if people don`t want to play with the cli they don`t have to.
Ian
hi Ian,
your suggestion to use "modify nat global udp timeout 120" doesn't seem to want to be entered in my telnet!! all i get is invalid command....any suggestions? thanx
claire
sorry over zelous typing it should read:
modify nat global udptimeout 120
and to make sure it has done it you can type
get nat global
hope this helps
Ian
John's Menu probelem was the same as mine, It turned out to be the USB IP address. I use fixed IP's on the internal Lan and my first machine was 192.168.1.2. When I accessed the router on 192.168.1.1 I recived the Quick Start but had trouble getting any further, changed 1st machine to 192.168.1.9 and all is well!
John's Menu probelem was the same as mine, It turned out to be the USB IP address. I use fixed IP's on the internal Lan and my first machine was 192.168.1.2. When I accessed the router on 192.168.1.1 I recived the Quick Start but had trouble getting any further, changed 1st machine to 192.168.1.9 and all is well!
Hi, i need a command to open up prts etc all the other stuff needed for counter strike source and steam.....Any help?
how do i connect two computers to the voyager 205?
do i need to have two network cards in my pc?
I have just changed from ntl cable broadband to bt and need to connect both mine and my sons pc's together which i did through a router previously, but i don't seem to be able to connect the router to the 205 and make it work!!
I know it is probably basic stuff for most people but i just can't seem to sort it.
Please help.( preferably in words of one syllable )
Trevor, what you need to do is buy a Switching Hub (look earlier in the comments and there was a few reccommended from pc world)
Plug switch into the ADSL router, and plug both pc's into the switch.
and away you go :o)
Xander
The switching hubs are only about 8-10 pound
Xander
Jamin, I still don't fully understand your issue. via the ADSL? do you mean the internet? I can't conceptualise what's happening, are you some kind of sysadmin over a group of remote workers or something??
The router can't run cron jobs itself, as far as I know, but it would be a piece of cake to have a decent computer initiate an automated telnet session and do such things. The router has WAN side access, you know. You could access them from wherever you are. phoning folk asking them to reboot isn't just time-consuming, it's insanity!
anyways, my approach is STOP THEM FROM DISCONNECTING IN THE FIRST PLACE! The tweaks to do that (assuming they are all on ethernet, of course) is above, in the main article. If you mean something else, get back to me.
Custom scripts, right with you Ian! We could have "eMule user script" and "basic stealth", etc. good shit! yup.
TMF no comment!
trevor he's right! get yourself a switch. one NIC (network card) per machine, and two CAT-5 cables (three, including the one that came with your router), and plug them all in! That's it! See the static IP/recipes pages for more details of what to do once you have everything plugged in (it should work okay with just plugging them all in, but you'll likely want to do more.
for now..
;o)
TMF get a new router, if you are with BT phone the technical support people and explain that you use steam on your connection and that you would like them to replace your router with a model compatible with steam, they know about the issue with the 205 router not working with steam, and as they no longer sell the 205 either they should send you another router. I have just reicieved a speedtouch 500 series 4 port router that works with steam after I complained.
Good luck
please can you tell me how to forward the ports so i can use steam the ports that gotta be opened are
UDP 1200 (used for friends service)
UDP 27000 to 27015 inclusive
TCP 27020 to 27050 inclusive
???? thankyou
I need some help!
I know nothing about portforwarding bar what I've read on your pages, and I cant manage to forward anything. My connection is good but I cant get anything on any of the P2P porgrams since getting my voyager 205. I prefer winmx and although I've tried to copy and paste your rules in using telnet, I still get no joy; I get a connection to it but no search results at all. If I opt for secondary connection and 'no ports available', I'll get stacks of search results, but when I try to download my connection is always refused.
Any help would be greatly appreciated, it's driving me mad!
Cor
thought i would see if the shorting pin trick would work on a voyager with corrupt firmware so i uploaded a doctored firmware with random characters inserted with a hex editor ( not recommended) it booted but with diag ethernet and usb lights flashing it was screwed no response for ether port, time to open her up, took three attempts and got all leds to flash, used angry ip scanner there it was usual position with ping of 0ms one quick flash later all restored and working, moral of this story short of a component failure its hard to keep the 205 down.
Ian
thanks for the heads-up countzero. question: did you get to keep your old 205? so steam is a game, huh? And it doesn't work with this router? hmm. Unlikely.
Anyways, baker, perhaps it won't work, but you could try the generic rules on the recipes page. Let us know how you get on with that. I'm toying with the idea of a php "rule calculator" where you could enter the ports you need and have rules created as if by magic. We'll see.
Drifterman, have you followed the recipes page to the letter? I mean stealthed the router, etc, etc. Did the rules enter without error? give us more info, and you'll get a better response.
for now..
;o)
ps.. Nice one Ian! yeah, I like this router, regardless of what some folk say. It's a hardy wee beast! I'm thinking of pulling the steam trick so I can take this one offline to play with it!
I'm still stuck at first base, unable to access the advanced options. I have tried everyone's helpful suggestions, switched off firewalls, tried different IP address for the PC, I have even tried using Firefox rather than IE......Aaaaarrrrgghhhh!
don't let it get you down, you don't need the web interface. at all.
use telnet.
;o)
John ,
Just one more thing after you change the settings in IE try clearing the temporary internet files folder. And if you have a popup blocker disable it as well as any internet security or virus software.
John
PS keep clicking on the advance option link a few times
Cor
i believe steam =
http://www.steampowered.com/ :downloadable multigame site
Which ports must be open in order to use Steam?
Answer
The following ports must be open in your firewall and router for Steam and Steam Games to work:
UDP 1200 (used for friends service)
UDP 27000 to 27015 inclusive
TCP 27020 to 27050 inclusive
Computers running Dedicated Servers need these ports open:
UDP: 27015 and 27020 (default HLDS, SRCDS and HLTV port)
TCP: 27015 (SRCDS Rcon port)
If your server uses a different hostport then you will need to adjust the above accordingly.
For assistance with your Firewall you will need to go to the support site for your particular Firewall.
NOTE: Windows XP SP1 firewall does not require any specific configuration changes for Steam Clients to work, but for Source Dedicated Servers you must open TCP Port 27015 (or whichever port your server is using) for RCON to work!
hope this helps
Cor trying to upload files but keeps timing out, the file is 9.44mb contains files as per my posts its caalled
posts files.zip
Cor:
thanks for the reply. I followed the recipe pages exactly, then tried it again to make sure after re-setting the router. I stealthed it, them put the rules in for winmx, they were accepted on the telnet page, saved them, then checked them on the 205 webpage using IE. When i open winmx it connect straight away and I get a green light. The windows firewall is switched off, my norton firewall is set to allow winmx a free reign.
If I disconnect my broadband connection and just go back to a dial-up, it works perfectly (only at 56k!), it always has.
I'm at the point of giving up now and resigning myself to just not file sharing. NB I've also tried with no succcess to do the same with i-mesh, shareeza, e-mule and soulseek, none of them will work. It seems it's just 'a bridge too far' for this lttle noobie!
Thanks Ian, uploading to the server is always a bit shakey, even using FTP! I've got three files between 1.5MB and 3.5MB in the upload folder. *sigh* Feel free to bang them in my inbox, my email account can take it, I think.
drifterman, very curious! I'd definitely try with Norton disabled altogether. If you've stealthed the router, it's not really needed anyhow. But it does seem to be outside your puter, hmmm, how are you connected to the router? By a direct CAT-5 link, or via a HUB or a switch maybe? Is there only one computer connected? Open a telnet session and leave it open for a day, do you get any strange error messages? (apart from usual "ATM VC Congested" stuff)
Run the port probe and note the exact result. If it's not "success!!!", tell us! Maybe fire up a torrent for this. BitTorrent is an excellent application for testing incoming connexions and bandwidth capabilities. When BT goes, it really goes.
Have you applied the max tcp connexions tweak? ..
modify nbsize maxipsess 512If not, slam that in too, and keep us posted!
for now..
;o)
Another thing, you may have spotted I threw up a troubleshooting page this afternoon. After some editing this evening, it's looking pretty good.
All comments and suggestions for additions welcomed!
;o)
Hi there,
Please help - when I go to the address for reconfiguring the Voyager 205 (http://Voyager.home) ie this page..
I cant do ANYTHing - teh page seems to be constantly refreshing itself!!!! So you cant do anything!
Help.
Cleaned out the temp internet files, now working. Thanks for everyone's help.
Now to have a play....
Great troubleshooting page only one
suggestion BIG LETTERS AT THE TOP
saying ETHERNET CONNECTIONS ONLY
for all the newbies like I was till
I came here.
best
barney
Scorpion2, it's supposed to do that. just click one of the links!
;o)
Hi,
Hoping you can help, i am running winxp SP2 and trying to forward ports for several games i play, the games are:
Star wars galactic battlegrounds, port(s) 6073, 2300-2400
Unreal tounrament 2004, port(s) 28900-28902, 7777-7788
I have used the generic rules from from your recipes page and altered them accordingly, the firewall rules have been added twice for each port/port range 1x tcp 1x udp for each.
All accepted with no errors, but no matter what i do grc or your own port probe show the ports as closed.
This is driving me nuts!!!
The windows xp firewall is OFF (cos its damned annoying apart from anything else) but no way no how can i get these ports open or can anyone connect to my game.
examples of the rules i have created :
create ipf rule entry ruleid 107 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq udp destport range 2300 2400 seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 107 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq tcp destport range 2300 2400 seclevel high medium low
create nat rule entry ruleid 111 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.3 lcladdrto 192.168.1.3 destportfrom num 2300 destportto num 2400
please help me, i am fairly new to networking and understand its probably something i am doing wrong but a have checked this against the info you have provided, big thanks for that!!!, but am still getting nowhere.
oops sorry forgot to add that this system is connected via a switch to the router. I haven't tried usuing static ip addresses as this machine defaults to the primary address after the 2 used by the router (192.168.1.3)
what is this telnet u all talk about how do I get it to open. Sorry for being a noob but only got my 205 today and trying to get edonkey working
TazNomad, I've added a nice big blue title to the Telnet section (above), so hopefully it's more noticible now.
I recommend clicking the link in that section (just above the image) which should automagically begin a telnet session with your router for you, assuming it's at its default address, and you're using a decent browser.
TFLnemesis, first I don't believe your rules entered without error. For a start, your second firewall rule has the same ID as the first, and wouldn't be accepted by the router.
Question, why not use a static address anyway (okay, that was more of a suggestion) Another suggestion; number the rules according to the port they are covering, makes life easier. Add 1 for the UDP variants.
Did you delete the default set of firewall rules and stealth the router as described above and on the stealth page? Without at least the first stealth rule, many net things won't work.
I wouldn't attempt to setup games and shit until you've had an AOK result from something more certain. Either fire up a torrent, or start a copy of the±wire and set it to listen. The less unknown variables you have for testing, the better. Test that one port and keep testing it until it works.
Do you have any other firewall or firewall-like software on-board? You can even get the buggers in your BIOS, check everywhere! Also try removing the switch and testing again. Switches are good, but maybe yours is performing some firewalling. Try a direct physical link to the router. By the way, I've never come across a switch that does firewalling, but you never know. If it does, learn how to disable it!
Lastly, importantly, when you figure it out, LET US KNOW!
If you have more data, and want more text back, shoot! more detail is better, thanks for taking the time to include it.
for now..
;o)
Does anyone know a command to open up ports for coiunter strike and steam etc... i asked bt and the said they cant help
Cor did you have a look through those files the ones on the sar130 cli manual 130 update give most of commands for cli and i noticed some of them have slightly different params to the sol 110 commands ?, the flash cable one is a cracker and the utilities should be fun to play with. working on the vik 2.1 041008a1tbc firmware at mo for uk settings so you`ll just be able to flash and go also i will produce different versions for the offical bt v1.6 and the viking pre stealthed with all extra rules removed, the reappeering rules i believe are controled by ssh scripts in the home directory i will look further in to this if so it should be just a matter of deleting script file content in these files then just producing a teimage download. will the telnet test utility be any good for using with script files for common port setup ie edonkey, bt, unreal tournament etc if so i`ll try and start producing some
Ian
Just hovered that'll do!!
best
barney
Cor:
The story continues...
So i've tried yet again making sure I Follow the recipes to the letter, still no joy. I'm connected via usb(dont have an ethernet port on my laptop), running ME, tried the max txp tweak and when I go to your port probe tool; I get results: "connection refused" or "connexion timed out (probably stealthed)" All the rules appear ok in the 205 page when I look for them(using telnet to copy them in from your pages)
The only thing that seems strange to me, and I haven't got a clue why it says it, the port probe tool identifies my address as something completely different to what I thought I was. Am I not correct in thinking that when I set up a static IP right at the start, that's what it should identify me as? (Currently 192.168.1.*) It show me as 81.155.134.*** is this the problem?
This whole problem started off when I was trying to set up my desktop PC. Because its got norton/XP/SP2 I thought they might be the issue (incidentally I couldn't get to the advanced options of the 205 page at all on that, even after trying all the tips on the comments pages), so i decided to try on my laptop.
It has no firewall at all so that's definately ruled out, having complained/asked for help from BT, they said it must be my router, so they sent me a new one. The new one does exactly the same as the old one, so I've now got one for each PC.(i always switch one off before using the other one - just incase that's relevant)
Anyway, enough! Thats the score at the mo, hope you point me in a direction that will sort me out. Many thanks for the help so far
drifterman
open a dos window in xp and type the command ipconfig and post the results here this will tell us the default gateway and the ip address of the laptop
Ian
Cor
i`m going to look in to the usb driver issus and see if i can get same functionality as ether port out of it there must be a way
Ian
Ian:
I'm on the laptop, using ME.
ipconfig reports:
0 ethernet adapter:
IP address......:192.168.1.3
subnet mask.....:255.255.255.0
def gateway.....:192.168.1.1
and
1 ethernet adapter:
ip address......:0.0.0.0
subnetmask......:0.0.0.0
def gateway.....:(empty-nothing at all)
Hope this means something to you, I'm completely lost now!
Thanks
Hi Corz, I have been strugling to get things moving since BT dropped a 205 through my door with no software but with the help from these tomes have managed to get things going with emule blindingly fast downloading music, presently looking for OTS dj stuff, but I have a problem with the 205 command page , it wont let me open the security page anumore, i have reset the config today and re installed the rules but something is stopping that part opening up, i am using firefox, opera and IE in that order also all firewalls off PS go easy on me i'm over 50ish and have done serious pc damage in my time, gadget
drifterman
in device manager under me what network adapters does it state you have as the first entry from ipconfig is the btv205 the second entry ???, have you set Intrusion Protection to disabled and ip filter to off?.
ian
drifterman
if you want i can look at your current config go into web interface and backup config then send it via email to me @
ian_wallace_2000@yahoo.co.uk and i will load it on to my spare router to see if any thing is a miss, also which version of the firmware are you running 1.1 or 1.6 ?
Ian
Ian:
Theres an e-mail for you
Thanks
drifterman
just setting up winmx and router now get back asap
Ian
Ian, your hard work is much appreciated. I uploaded those utilities you sent me, now available from the public archives. I held off on the telnet test utility for now, it probably needs some documentation to be effective (and not frustrating), but the others are good to go as-is, superb stuff.
One thing, when you create the default configs, could you DISABLE DHCP. I think that's the cause of a few of the problems here. Good luck with the USB investigation, by the way, you'll need it!
I moved my own LAN from 192.168.0 addressing to 192.168.1 addressing today, which was way easier than I had anticipated. Mostly I use names as opposed to addresses, so my Putty shortcuts, for instance, still work, pointing to "router". Anyways, it means my own rules are more likely to match other folks, and vica-versa.
Drifterman, first your IP is fine. The 192.168.. IP is your internal IP, or "private", if you prefer. There are probably millions of computers all over the world, that share your IP, but they are all behind private gateways. The gateway (our router) is the one with the real IP, or "public" IP, and that's what the outside world, including my port probe, sees. That's the one you want to test, too. So far so good.
I recommend you backup your config (in the system pages) and mail it to me, I may spot something. Definitely consider getting a NIC for the computers, laptop included. And then a switch! (I should get a pile o cheap switches in and sell them here, could make a fortune!)
Howdy Inspector Gadget, this is unusual. Can you open the regular Advanced pages? Or is the whole advanced section off-limits? Check out the new troubleshooting page, and follow the steps in there, perhaps you missed one.
Lastly, I came across a nifty utility called NetSpeedo which keeps tabs on your router's activity, live! Current upload/download speeds, uptime, that sort of thing. It's not specifically for the Voyager 205, but any of the sar100/sar130/dm602 settings work just fine. Sadly windows only, but still cool nonetheless. Grab it from the Public archives, or from James' site.
Have fun!
;o)
ha! great minds think alike Ian!
I knew I should have refreshed the page before posting! Was it really that long? :/
Spot anything strange in the config, then?
;o)
Thanks for that, yes all the advance tabs work fine it just wont let me onto that page for the custom section to see the results...!! am still looking for any info, i thought it may be because I had USB and ethernet connected at the same time but appears to be working fine just wont let me in... bu**er!!
hmm.. that section opens in a pop-up.
you don't have a pop-up blocker running, do you?
;o)
by the way, you can "get" the results in a telnet session. There's a wee note about this in the main article, the "get stats on stuff". Also, you might want to try the dm602 configger from the public archive, which provides useful info, too.
You might also want to try these direct links to the NAT rules and Firewall rules.
It's worth a shot.
;o)
cor/drifterman
after looking at driftermans config file and getting no where fast i decided to try and do it with my router in virgin state but connected by usb entered all rules no errors, tested ports response was stealthed or timed out. right time to start deleting rules and allowing all traffic through still the same response, i think that the usb driver is stepping in somewhere and blocking the ports as i notice after using sheilds up port probethe ipf filter rules where magically changed from off to high and the intrusion protection kicked in for about 10 minutes ??? a lot more investigating to do here.
Ian
Cor/Ian
Thanks very much for your help so far fellas. You mentioned a NIC cor? What on earth is one of those? Although I'm trying to keep up, it's all a bit beyond my very limited knowledge!
In the meantime, thanks again
Cor
Wasn't sure of your e-mail so couldn't send the config file. Let me know if you still want it.
Cheers
Cor
Hey cor i need your help again!!! got probs with winmx....ie it wont stay connected. have opened up the relevant ports etc but it just keeps disconnecting! damn thing. Also not sure if it's normal or not but in emule it keeps disconnecting from thr servers like every 5 mins...i dont think i stay connected to any server for longer than that time. why did i ever let you talk me into believing i could do this!!! ha ha ha
Hi,
Me again :P , just to let you know that i have finally sorted out the port forwarding for my games.
I was right it was something i was doing wrong or should i say i wasn't opening ports that should be opened.
Unfortunately it seems that most game manufacturers sites do not show ALL the ports that need opening. I managed to find most of the ports i needed through this site: http://www.portforward.com/cports.htm
some very useful info especially for gamers. Although it doesn't show star wars galactic battlegrounds which is one of the games i was trying to sort out. the ports shown on lucasarts site are 2300-2400, 6073 tcp/udp but there is another port that needs opening which is 47624 tcp/udp not given by lucasarts.
Needless to say i am now a happy gamer!!!!!
on a side note, the rules i posted before were what i dragged from notepad and before using i would have amended the rule numbers..... also i used the wire to test things out as you suggested, it all worked but your port scan caused a stack overflow on it and it crashed every time i probed for it.
Thanks you so much cor for all this info it has saved me probably months of headaches and being a noob i probably would have given up before i got it sorted if not for all the info you provide!!!
Hi how can i run a game server with the 205 router modem pls help thanks
Hi Cor,
Well thanks to you I know why my 205 locks up with all leds on. BT know as well, and advised me to upgrade the firmware, which is now available on their site. I did that and now have a 205 with power, USB and ethernet leds on, and that is all it is now capable of. I tried flashing the pins as mentioned earlier, but no change, it's still a dodo. BT are going to send me a replacement, so I'll keep this next to my chair...it should keep me warm until spring!!
Thanks for an excellent web site with so many contributers..
PaulB
Paulb
how did you try flashing the 205 ethernet or usb? the trick with the two pins is timing you need to get it just right when u do the leds will flash you can try just leaving a motherboard jumper over pins2 and 3 and switching on and off a couple of times and holding reset button for fifteen secounds before trying again leave ether cable plugged in, flashing via usb is not recommended i did it and guess what one screwed router, if you cant get it to flash email me at my address further up postings and i will send you my address pop it in post and i will give it my all to bring her back from the dead.
regards ian
drifterman / cor
tryed today via usb connection to get winmx working properly get green connection search results dreadfully slow, downloading (forget it), so uninstalled usb driver connected via ethernet blinding searches 90-100k downloading? moral of this story you need a network card (Nic) for the laptop usually a pcmcia (creditcard) adapter.
PCWorld stock one
StarTech.com - UE1205CB - Network adapter - CardBus - EN, Fast EN - 10Base-T, 100Base-TX £ 11.86 (exc VAT) £ 13.94 (inc VAT)
http://www.pcwcomponentcentre.co.uk/invt/ue1205cb&bklist=page,1
Great stuff! i've got the green light on for torrents but i can only get port 6881 open 8( Thanks for your hard work m8.
Hi,
I am a noob to routers but Ive been reading this website and posts and I think Im doing ok.
My internet connection keeps dropping and from what everyone says I should be using the ethernet cable, but as I use the 205 as a router my friend uses it Im stuck with the USB cable.
Is there anyway I can split the ethernet cable into two feeds, or even be able to run all internet traffic through my computer without having to leave it switched on.
I sent BT an email today asking them for a solution otherwise Im going with someone else, I doubt they'll have a decent answer though.
Cheers
ok i tryed that port probe and would like some hlpe on this as i get whats does that mean thanks
p2p port probed: 7000
result: connexion timed out. (probably stealthed)
Chris, Get a Switch! Damn, I love saying that! There's a note about switches in the troubleshooting guide, in the "Uplug the USB!" section, and a useful link above, amongst other places. Switches are good, they save headaches.
That'll be your next purchase drifterman, right after you get the ethernet adaptor. With the switch, you can share your net between both yer puters. I have made it my mission to have every british household equpiied with a switch, or two. My email address, by the way, you can get by clicking any of the smiles on most corz.org pages. mail-mashing courtesy of my cute mail-mashing script, available in the usual place.
Thanks for getting back to us TFLnemesis, so few gamers do, I'm curious, did Steam work? Anyways, I've added that port list to the useful links (above), it's probably the most comprehensive list I've seen. the±wire regularly crashes on receiving foreign incoming connexions, one of its less interesting bugs, but a really good success indicator for router testing!
Adrian, glad it's working! did you use the standard recipe? The one with the range of ports? Also I recommend moving away from the 6881 range altogether. BitTorrent will happily use any port from 1024 - 65535. 49,000+ is good.
Talking of ports, Stephen, do you have a server running on that port? 7000, I mean. Check out the troubleshooting page (see menu at the top) and work through some stuff. Feel free to give more details of your setup, what you have done so far, and what you are trying to do, which game server, etc.
claire!!!, oh gal, what's happened? Is KAD still switched off? And the maxtcp sessions hack still enabled? erm, what else? rebooted lately? do that, if you haven't. Router and Puter. My own connexion's been *unusual* of late, even since I upgraded with the new official BT firmware, in fact, but I suspect it may also be at BT's end. I know they're in the middle of some network upgrades (I'm about to get a free speedbump to 2MB) and those congestion errors are a continual presence in a telnet session. Having said that, I'm in a swarm right now doing 120kbs+ so torrents are definitely working!
I've started using my Linux box for all the p2p stuff, it seems to suffer a lot less from the sort of non-specific choking I used to experience when using the likes of WinMX and eDonkey together with the usual half-dozen torrents, on XP. That XP SP2 max TCP connexions hack (in the archives) doesn't seem to make much difference, either. You might want to look in your system logs (run "eventvwr.exe") for any unusual network error messages.
One more thing springs to mind claire. When you switched to ethernet, did you uninstall the USB drivers? With ethernet, you need NO BT SOFTWARE WHATSOEVER. At All! Uninstall!
PaulB, that upgrade is a downgrade! I used to get the odd lock-up when using (or rather just after using) communicator, but minutes after upgraded, it locked-up with no net activity at all! yikes! fingers-crossed, since I removed all the default BT rules and set it up stealth-style it's been fine, but I've given up on VoIP for a bit, the quality was crap, will re-install communicator after I get the 2MB upgrade, which might help, though upload bandwidth is really what I could be doing with more of. 2MB SDSL would be nice.
You know, I'm glad I set these comment pages to twenty comments, or else folks would slide right off the page before I even see 'em! It sure is getting to be a busy area, and mighty useful, too, not just for owners of voyager routers, but all rouers. The pages are evolving beautifully, and it's mostly thanks to all the excellent input and feedback you guys are dropping right here, thanks all. I'll try and keep up!
for now..
;o)
ps.. Ian, watch out dude, before you know it you're gonna have routers in jiffy bags streaming in from all over the Isles!
Thanks for the USB info, yet another reason to avoid USB at all reasonalble costs.
cor,
okay so...Kad not running. maxtcp session hack still on...in the event log i got all sorts going on! max tcp/ip has reached the security limit blah blah blah....got loads of that. also got loads of application hang errors?? means nothing to me!!!! As for the drivers..hmmmm i seem to recall you "telling" me to do it and me saying duh alot! also remember telling ya i'd get around to doing it in feb!!!!!! lmao. so whats the verdict doc???
xx
I've experienced problems connecting to some websites, one of them is http://www.borland.com/ and it gives me page not found, but I successfully connect to the website at work... After some digging it turned out that BT has upgraded their DNS server and it's causing the problem, more info at
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2002/07/25/bind_9_upgrade_behind_bt
to solve the problem add acouple of good DNS servers to your router, the new IP address for b.root-servers.net. (192.228.79.201) worked fine for me:
create dns servaddr 192.228.79.201
commit
damn usb connection. I am trying to diagnose the problem with the router connected via the usb cable. it loses its connection even though all leds remain green. when entering commands into the putty.exe telnet type program I can watch as the loss of connectivity flashes up as an error:
WARNING : PPP authorization failed : Interface - ppp-0
WARNING : PPP Interface down : Interface - ppp-0
MAJOR ALARM : PPP Failed to get IP address : Interface - ppp-0
Any ideas how to fix this save buying a network card?
Connor your wasting your time if you read thru all
the info here you will see why??
Get a card for a tenner no more problems
best
barney
well the ports i need open need tobe on tcp and udp which are
7000
7100
7200
cor i think the resuscitate my router service should be customer pays postage both ways and has to make donation via paypal or something on here to help with bandwidth or extra space as at this rate you`ll be installing forum software and the like ;)
conner
when you use the usb connection the modem no longer takes its power via psu and can cause problems when plug in with other devices on the same contoller, i take it you have already input the ppp global timeout and ppp session keep live settings via telnet also in windows device manager untick the allow windows power down device to conserve power in windows. if you have to share the usb buswith other devices you should use a powered hub but if your going to pay out for one of them you might as well get a ether card
Ian
Thanks for that Cor.
Heard about switches but never knew what they did. Just ordered one so Ill let you know how I get on.
If BT get back to my email and they say anything interesting Ill post that on here too.
Cheers
Ian/Cor
Thanks for all the info fellas, I'll get my switch along with an ethernet card (and my coat!) Your help over the last few days is much appreciated.
Take it easy
Hello All
Well the following weirdo things are happening to my set up and I know you will be able to help.
I suddenly have TWO internet connections my normal high speed ethernet connection and another that declares itself as an internet sharing connection?? or a gateway connection both on at the same time. I cannot delete or this connection (greyed out) all tests on the bt config manager pass.
I originally declared itself with the name of my router Globespan Vit etc then changed its name to aforementioned help would be appreciated as it would appear to be causing me boot problems as it is taking forever for my desktop to arrive and not all of my sys tray icons are loading.
best
barney
Good Morning to all,
I would like to ask you if there is a possibility to create a lan between 2 computers. The first one is connected via ethernet and has the 192.168.1.4 and the second one is connected to the USB port with IP 192.168.1.3. Can I create any kind of connection between them for internal file sharing?
Any help most appreciated.
Thank you,
Jerry
Cor
uploaded the gs viking 2.1 maufactures release all i have done is export bt default config from v1.6 and imported it straight in to the vik image you should load it up and have a look at it it lists all the sub rules etc, need to work out a default config for vik 2.1 before general public release as not built in rules at all.
ow feck! I just lost my entire reply hitting ctrl-up in firefox thanks to the usually-amazingly-cute NextImage plug-in, somehow, your "back" history vanishes into thin air when you use it, I hadn't noticed before, using it for mostly for image browsing.
DAMN! I was at it an over an hour! I did an effin COMPLETE how-to on windows file sharing too F***********CK! okay, I'll try and recap, in a text editor, maybe.
l8rz..
;o)
(some espresso later...)
okay, working backwards..
Jerry, Yes! You are both on the same subnet, so it should just work. Here's how..
Simply type the full UNC path of the remote share into the address bar of any explorer window. To connect to a share called "Documents" on a puter called "Laptop", you would type "\\Laptop\Documents" (no quotes) and hit enter. Tada! You can find the "computers name" in a tab of the System Properties, which I get to by hitting Win-Break.
For a more permanent arrangement, click the "Map Drive" button in your explorer toolbars (you may have to enable that first in Tools >> Folder Options) and enter the same UNC path as above. Then the share will mount automatically for you at login. Either way, you can access it from L:\, or whatever, and it acts just like a local volume, albeit a tad slower. I often forget where the real drives are on my network, so long as I can always get to work from G:\.
To share a folder, right-click it and chose "Sharing and Security", create the share. ensure the user(name) on the other machine has permission to access the share (and disable caching, always). It helps to keep your username consistent across the machines on your LAN. In other words, if you login to your laptop as "Jerry", you should also login to your desktop as "Jerry", same password. This saves you having to enter your password every time you access a remote resource. Let us know how you get on.
Barney, weirdness! My first thought was "Did you uninstall the old USB drivers?", but I'm guessing you did. Then I thought that maybe there's been some UPnP interaction between your peecee and the router, and for some reason (known only to the gnomes at Micro$oft) the peecee has decided to become the internet gateway.
Run "services.msc" and disable the Internet Connection Sharing/Internet Firewall whateveritscalled service, and everything else you don't need. For guidance, this is a good page. Whenever I load the services console I click Startup Type, then Status, it's completely unconscious, but the reordering makes it make more sense, try it, you'll see what I mean.
If, after the service stripping and a reboot, it's still not budging, go into your device manager "devmgmt.msc" and remove the ethernet interface alltogether. reboot and allow it to reinstall itself. Keep us posted!
Drifterman, Chris, I've said it before, and I never miss an opportunity to say it again.. Buying a switch CHANGED MY LIFE!. I'm serious. Cost me £20 back in the days when switches cost £40, and made so many "issues" just vanish! Have fun!
Stephen, that's just a wee list, you'll find it real easy to convert the generic rules on the recipes page, just alter the ports and IP's to suit your needs. All you need is a text editor, Notepad is fine.
conner, listen to Ian, he knows what he's talking about. omer, useful link dude, outsourcing their DNS server, huh. what next? fortunately, I keep those two plusnet servers (above) in my router at all times, I've never trusted the BT DNS servers, and usually attempt to bypass them whenever possible.
And claire oh claire!, I'll tell ye something, I've got a torrent queue going at all times on me linux box. If I fire up eDonkey, or Ares, or any of those on my peecee, I can use them fine, the speed dips a little on Azureus (Torrent client) but all is generally well.
But, if I startup WinMX and start searching or whatever, the whole lot dies. Torrents just cease, I'm scared to touch it!
Here's something you can try.. use the EvID Patch to set your peecee's max simultaneous connexions to 200, or even less. Reboot and try again. Consider discovering BitTorrent.
Well, that's pretty close to the original version, give or take. If I missed anything/one just drop more text here. I've forgiven the oh-it-is-wonderful NextImage plug-in, who's history retention behaviour is "undefined", but when you're zipping through whole directories (read, backdoors) of images with just ctrl-up/down, you don't care much for history. Just need a modifier for directories and it's browser nirvana!
While I'm here, I gotta say Firefox has really set my web browsing alight. The framework to basically build whatever browser you need, almost everything I've ever wanted a browser to do, Firefox does it, with the help of a gaggle of plug-ins, of course. I could literally go on all day about it, and it will no doubt, along with the excellent Thunderbird, become the subject of a long and enthusiastic blog.
Internet Explorer has officially lost the browser wars. w00h00! Moz has come home, at last. If you haven't tried Firefox yet, give it a go, in fact, give it a week. adios!
for now..
;o)
ps.. Ian, Shhhh! Don't mention "forum software". I'm already having nightmares about this!
Hey, I checked out the TEImage.bin (coverted it to a cfg with the "viking-011 default config extractor_inserter"). My first thought was, "how do you get the meat in there?", I mean the other 2MB. Is that all there is to the firmware? Simply run a cfg through the converter and bingo! ??? Would make creating custom firmwares a dooddle, if so. i.e.. backup cfg with Viking_Upgrade.exe then convert to TEImage.bin and voila! I'm missing something, right?
Hello Cor
Well its gone! for the moment I suspect it is some kind of
UPnP interaction as you pointed out why? I cleared the pre fetch folder manually and I now have normal service.
Hopefully it was something I uninstalled some time ago although I
do clear out the folder regularly I am watching it like a hawk from now.
Thanks for the prompt response.
best
barney
nb I cannot understand the message timings I know you have your own parliment now but a different time zone!!
barney
hi, i got a voyager with my broadband package from bt.
i mainly use it to play xbox games online.
but when playing halo2 online i cannot play custom games with my friends who have voyager routers.
i have tried opening ports 88, 3074 and 58.
i have also tried turning off the firewall on windows.
whith this done i checked the nat setting on the xbox
this read as 1 - open so i should be able to play custom games with anyone, but still cant with anyone who has a voyager router.
i have tried searching and searching and cannot fix this.
xbox live and bt help have been unable to help
can you....
Green light 2 gig through the night :p
back again do not no what to do!!!
best
barney
barney
run the network set up on xp and tell it you use a residential gateway windows should then correct the abnormal setting for you.
Cor
i thought you might find the following intersting it allows you to get to hidden pages in 205:
http://192.168.1.1/MainPage?id=##
## = page number as follows
1- Device Info
2- IP Address Configuration
3- Administration Password Configuration
4- Reset
5- IP Address Table
6- System View
7- IP Route Table
8- Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) Configuration
9- Network Address Translation (NAT) Configuration
10- Routing Information Protocol (RIP) Configuration
11- Alarm
12- Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) Server Configuration
13- Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) Relay Configuration
14- Network Address Translation (NAT) Rule Configuration
15- Network Address Translations (NAT)
16- Point to Point Protocol (PPP) Configuration
17- ATM VC Configuration
18- DSL Status
19- IP Filter Configuration
20- Intrusion Protection Configuration
21- RFC1483/Ethernet over ATM(EoA) Config
22- Bridge Configuration
23- IP over ATM (IPoA) Configuration
24- Domain Name Service (DNS) Configuration
25- Quick Configuration
26- Local Image Upgrade
27- Blocked Protocols - i like this one
28- Diagnostics
29- Port Settings - edit port settings for web server etc
30- Remote Image Upgrade
31- System Mode
32- Ethernet Config - set ethernet speed and duplex
33- (User Not Authorized)
34- System Log
35- Backup/Restore Config
36- Remote Image Upgrade (client side)
37- Remote Image Upgrade Progress Status
38- Management Control
39- Autodetect
40- Bridge Filter Configuration
41- WLAN Interface Configuration - not supported
42- WLAN Key Configuration - not supported
43- RADIUS Configuration - not supported
44- SNMP Configuration
45- 802.1X Configuration - not supported
46- Secure Shell Configuration - not supported
47- Dynamic Domain Name Service (DDNS) Configuration
48- Access Control
49- WLAN Filter List - its there but why ????
50- DSL View
51- System Time & Date
have fun..
p.s the viking-011.exe will allow you to import a commited.cfg into an image as the default.
i.e
1. web interface / backupconfig
2. take v1.6 teimage.bin use viking011 to import commited.cfg in to image
3. upload to 205
you know have a custom firmware with your default settings...
Ian
Good work Ian! That's the data we wanted! How the hell did you find that? no matter, superb! blocked protocols page is particularly interesting.
I'm still not certain about where teimage.bin comes into this neo-default creation. Is it merged some way with the new config, or does it only exist at the end, when we create it from the cfg file? I thought the latter.
take v1.6 teimage.bin use viking011 to import commited.cfg in to image" confuses me. How is the bin file used in the creation process? I thought that was the end result. Maybe if I just did it, it would all make more sense, but there's the torrent queue to consider...
I guess what I'm saying is, does a firmware upgrade consist of no more than a change in the command set, or is there some difference to the binary (non command) section of the firmware, too? And if so, where would viking-011.exe get that part when it creates the new bin file? I mean, is it hard-coded with a certain version of firmware that it appends to the given command set?
Anyways, your lovely list above makes my remarks about this man-it's-handy NextImage plug-in all the more pertinant; I can skim through all those pages using only ctrl-up/down. real neat!
Barney, definitely try the Network Setup Wizard, I'd forgotten all about that after a series of unfortunate incidents with the thing, but it's good for a one-off fix. If you find yourself using it repeatedly, though, consider a fresh XP install!
Sounds good Adrian, better get those gigs in before the 30GB/month limits take effect! GO!
ICEMAN, I think we need to approach this laterally.
It sounds to me like you have followed and understood the principles perfectly, and your setup is good. The trouble lies with the other gamers, and the first thing I suggest is that you email them the link to this page and let's get them sorted out!
I'm working on a couple of theories for gamers at the moment, would be good to get more feedback of positive results. If all goes to plan, we'll have "XBox ready" firmware available for download. Any info you can supply about what changes they may make, and whether they work, would be most appreciated.
for now..
;o)
Cor
the TEImage.bin as far as i understand it from chan is that it is made up of serveral different parts as follows:
boot1
boot2
boot3
boot4
boot5
boot6
boot7-zero-zone
boot8-boot-end
file structure pointer
MAC & Serilize
Zero-zone
FACT(528*32) ------ default config
Committed config(528*32) ------ current config
last config
config
backuip config
loader
filesystem.bin
tedsl.gsz
teappl.gsz
now what viking-011 does is take your config file and insert it into the teimage.bin file at the FACT (default config) position over writing the original default config ie you need the original bin file on your desktop etc so that it can be patched with config file of your choosing hope this makes sense.
Just for info.
the bits in teimage that get upgraded with new firmware version are loader,filesystem.bin(virtual filesystem, hag pages etc encrypted)
,tedsl.gsz,teappl.gsz and these are done throught tepatch.bin for patched upgrade or teimage.bin for firmware replacement.
chan is working on analysing the filesystem at the moment and then will be anaylsing the hag pages and led control routines so the future is looking rosey
hey! I just realised that MainPage?id=## link is the same as the two I posted a couple of days ago for, erm, someone! I have a few of them in my bookmarks. I hadn't considered running through all the possible numbers! Well done man!
I'll maybe construct a drop-down menu with a pop-up, or something, slam it on this very page, I'll do some grep-type string-replacing on your list, above, as a base. good shit! I'm grinning as I type!
okay, I'll pop in and out, no doubt, got a heap on...
;o)
aha, right, looking rosey indeed.
here's my query: you said, "ie you need the original bin file on your desktop", well I DON'T have it there! That's the point. You don't need to supply a bin file, only a wee script, and BANG! 2MB firmware image out of thin air!
So where is it getting it's bin data from? It doesn't query the router for it, and I never gave it a location, and the app itself is only 44k! So how does it do it?
;o)
Tell me about it over the next 4 days i`ve got to wire up an entire ethernet back bone in new office for a company moving in next week
oops!
ms i.e 6 dosn`t like this comment system, if you leave a comment and then refresh to see whats new it reposts ????
right off to bed got to figure out how to stop the 100mb pc network from slowing down the 1gb mac network when accessing the adsl connection, keep up the good work and i`ll catch you 2morow
just tryed it with only specifing a text file and it threw a wobbler import error so how you did it ?????????
cor i tryed doing that but for some reason it wont allow them ports even when i put them in also on the probe on here always refuses all the ports till its sorted i gone on top the voyager 100 :( i never had these probs with dlink router
Hello All
It just got worse so heres the tale have run spyware app and anti-virus negative results. I have two connections to the internet as I said normal ethernet connection and what appears to be a piggyback of the normal connection calling itself the internet gateway showing the path as (my computer) thru a (computer and a globe) to a (globe) ie the internet when I disable the ethernet connection the other dies also.
Now for the rub I have installed a software firewall that automatically detects networks on my single user machine and it has detected 2! networks(1)169.254.0.0 with a subnet of 255.255.0.0 (2) 192.168.1.0 with a subnet of 255.255.255.0 it calls these networks local and allows NetBios on both. My ip is a static 192.168.1.4 and my system is stealthed as per all your hard work.
I have followed all help that both yourself and Ian have reccomended still the same hope the xtra info can help me find a solution.
Best
barney
barney
what is your exact set up ie. computer motherboard 1/2 built in network cards,usb ports, firewire ports, bt voyager, extra switch, hub if so what make and model any software for pda extra(these set up their own network via usb)the more information the better
regards
Ian
Cheers Ian
Motherboard Name Soltek SL-85ERV(-L)/ERV2(-L)
Network Adapter Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC
4usb ports two on the back two on the front nml usb
Firewire 1394 comes with Creative Audigy box and soundcard (I have disabled this as it was showing as connected)
Voyager 205 no PDA no switch Win xp pro
Need anymore just ask your help is appreciated
best
barney
barney
can you take a shapshot of the network connections screen and send it to me (print scrn button on keyboard,open paint paste then save), also under device manager what network devices are listed, send screenshot to Ian_wallace_2000@yahoo.co.uk
Ian
barney
i think this is the route of all your problems is the microsoft tv/video connection in network adapters details are as follows:
Adding a USB camera to Windows XP creates Local Area Connection 2
Article ID : 303302
Last Review : June 23, 2004
Revision : 1.0
This article was previously published under Q303302
On this page
SYMPTOMS
WORKAROUND
STATUS
SYMPTOMS
After you add a universal serial bus (USB) camera or a TV tuner card to a Microsoft Windows XP-based computer, a Local Area Connection 2 icon may be created in the View Network Connections section in My Network Places. The information that is displayed below this icon describes the connection as:
Microsoft TV/Video Connection
WORKAROUND
To work around this behavior, restart the computer. After you restart your computer, the Local Area Connection 2 icon does not appear.
STATUS
This behavior is by design.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
from what i have read else where it will do no harm just appears and disapears at will and annoys the pants off you, the reason it appears as av network address is for the streaming capability by any chance do you have usb camera, capture card, etc that has created this.
Ian
Cor
more page links coming soon, chan has given me the path i just need to enter different id`s to see whats there, hopefully later tonight
Ian
cor
finally got the wire set up btv205@no-ip.org
Cor list as promised
http://192.168.1.1/PopOutPage?id=##
## = page number as follows
1- Error
2- The requested page is not found
3- System - Modify
4- IP Global Statistics
5- IP Route - Add
6- DHCP Server Pool - Add
7- DHCP Server Pool - Modify - ERROR
8- DHCP Server Pool - Detail - ERROR
9- DHCP Server Host - Modify - ERROR
10- DHCP Server Host - Detail - ERROR
11- DHCP Server Address Table
12- NAT Rule - Add
13- NAT Rule - Detail - ERROR
14- NAT Rule Statistics - ERROR
15- NAT Rule Global Statistics
16- RIP Global Statistics
17- Alarm Monitor
18- NAT TRANSLATION - Details - ERROR
19- PPP Interface - Add
20- PPP Interface - Modify - ERROR
21- PPP Interface - Detail - ERROR
22- ATM VC - Add
23- DSL Statistics
24- DSL Parameter
25- DSL Interval Statistics - ERROR
26- IP Filter Rule - Add
27- IP Filter Rule - Modify - ERROR
28- IP Filter Rule - Statistics - ERROR
29- IP Filter Rule - Detail - ERROR
30- IP Filter Session
31- Firewall Blacklisted Hosts
32- EOA Interface - Add
33- EOA Interface - Modify - ERROR
34- IPoA Interface - Add
35- IPoA Interface - Modify - ERROR
36- IPoA Interface - Map - ERROR
37- IPoA Interface - Global Map
38- ATM VC Interface - Modify - ERROR
39- User Config - Add
40- User Config - Modify - ERROR
41- Diagnostics - Ping - I really like this one
42- Diagnostics - Traceroute - AND this one
43- Firewall - Log
44- Management Control - IP Address
45- Bridge Filter Rule - Add
46- Bridge Filter Subrule - Add - ERROR
47- Bridge Filter Rule - Modify - ERROR
48- Bridge Filter Subrule - Modify - ERROR
49- Bridge Filter - Stats
50- Bridge Filter Rule - Stats - ERROR
51- WLAN Configuration - Add
52- WLAN Configuration - Detail - ERROR
53- WLAN Configuration - Modify - ERROR
54- WLAN Configuration - Statistics - ERROR
55- WLAN Keys - Add - ERROR
56- WLAN Keys - Modify - ERROR
57- Authentication Server Config - Add
58- Authentication Server Config - Modify
59- Authentication Server Statistics
60- Accounting Server Config - Add
61- Accounting Server Config - Modify
62- Accounting Server Statistics
63- RADIUS Global Statistics
64- SNMP Host - Add - ERROR
65- SNMP View Hosts
66- SNMP Global Statistics
67- 802.1X Intf - Add
68- 802.1X Intf - Modify
69- 802.1X Intf - Detail
70- 802.1X Supplicant - Add
71- 802.1X Supplicant - Modify
72- 802.1X Supplicant - Detail
73- 802.1X Supplicant Auth - Stats
74- 802.1X Supplicant Session - Stats
75- SSH Key File - Upload
76- Bridge Filter Rule - Detail - ERROR
77- Dynamic DNS Service - Add -direct access to this great
78- Dynamic DNS View Services
79- EoA Intf - Detail - ERROR
80- IPoA Intf - Detail - ERROR
81- IPF Filter Rules - Modify - Delete - Add
http://192.168.1.1/GenMainPage?id=##
-is used for Usage Control which can be enabled in CLI only.
## = page number as follows
1- Data User Login Page
2- Data User Session Management Page
3- Data User Connection-In-Use Page
4- Data User Maximum Connections Exceeded Page
5- Data User Diagnostics Page
6- Data User Maximum Users Exceeded Page
7- User Not Authorized Page
8- PPP Authentication Page
9- PPP Authentication in Progress Page
10- Quick Start
11- Advanced Diagnostics
12- Diagnostics
The command to do this is i believe is :-
modify usagectrl maxusers (number 1-8/nolimit) (enable/disable)
further details of this are in the 130cli.pdf and the 130extra2.1notes.pdf apparently in 2.1 they intraduced no limit where as before it was 8
Cor
chan has sent me voyager v1.6 firmware which has had the reoccuring rules removed they are created via scripts but removing them disables the ability to limit wan lan access to the web interface ie the management control page is not available. so its better they are there
Hello Ian
Yes thats exactly the picture I get and I appreciate the
explanation Not worried now!! Strange thing is I do not
have a usb camera or capture card.
Is this connection indicative of the two networks I showed
or is that a different problem?
Thanks for all your help
best
barney
good stuff man, I have a few of these already bookmarked. Did you notice the wee tool I made for accessing the advanced pages (right above these comments)? I may add the most useful ones to it, too.
I don't think the max user stuff will be much use, with even two or three users running through it, the router's TCP connexions are maxed out! Some of the other screens are real handy, though.
As for the auto-rules, yes, it would do that, we'd would need to add at least the first stealth rule for it to be of any use.
My peecee is offline just now, but when it's running again, I'll try out the 110.exe again, removing all image files from the computer and attempting another magical cfg >> bin conversion!
for now..
;o)
barney
problem 1:- the two networks
the network 169.254.0.0 with a subnet of 255.255.0.0 would have been greated by the firewire of the Creative Audigy box and soundcard its a sub network self contained to ease transfers between the box and the card - nothing to worry about it should be there.
problem 2:- Internet gateway
This annoyed the hell out of my until i realised that it is quite normal for windows to display this but only when there is no firewall running, it indicates that windows has found via upnp the voyager router (aka internet gateway), if you turn off all firewalls including windows own and restart the pc it will come back and stay where as if you have a firewall running and restart the pc it seems to appear for a short time before the firewall hides it. if you get the two little computers by the clock to show internet gateway connected you can stop this from happening by going into network connections and right click the internet gateway icon select properties a new window will appear at the bottom of this window is a tick box - show icon in notification area when connected - untick it.
don`t worry about it being in network connections its meant to be there
hope this helps
ian
p.s thanks for the invite for a gmail account, i`ve been after one for ages
barney
your pc ----------voyager 205 (pc with globe)-------globe
ethernet--------------default gateway---------------internet
192.168.1.4-------------192.168.1.1------------ip assigned by bt
Cor
i have been looking at the vik 2.1 firmware as on mainpage id=20 it has max tcp connections (75),half open max tcp connections(25), and icmp max connections (25) that can be set. This option is missing from voyager but would be very useful to stop all those maxed out 205s i will investigate to see if the defaults can be altered from the cli
Ian
Hello Ian
I changed software firewalls and had a period
where I had no software firewall and my (none!!)
troubles began. I now feel very comfortable
with your explanation thanks for taking the time
to help increase my knowledge
best
barney
Hi barney
Your very welcome, we try to help if we can
Ian :)
cor
i was on bt`s site last week http://www.voyager.bt.com/205/btbroadband/downloads/
and there was the following files
TEImage.bin dated 201204 version 1.4
TEImagev15.bin dated 120105 version 1.5
TEImagev16.bin dated 030205 version 1.6
but today when it went on only the following files were found
TEImage.bin dated 201204 version ??.??
TEImagev15.bin dated 180505 version 1.5
strangly enough the 1.5 version dated today is different from previous version but this is also the version that the bt communicator patch now points to.
cor sorry above should read
but today when i went on only the following files were found
TEImage.bin dated 180505 version ??.??
TEImagev15.bin dated 180505 version 1.5
Interesting. I'm running the v1.6 firmware, and it's good, I've made a heap of (VoIP to landline/cellphone) calls with my puter today and it (the router) hasn't locked up once. I wonder why BT removed it? The upgrade page points to the v1.5 file. The two files available at BT are identical, both v1.5, so I guess there must have been some kind of issue with 1.6.
Dunno what it is though, like I say, Communicator works great now, and those torrents are flying down! So whatever it is, it's not effecting me. By the way v1.6 is still available in the corz.org public archive!
I'm glad the dual-network and gateway thing is cracked, barney, that was a strange one. None of my cams or scanners create network connexions for themselves, I knew there had to be some UPnP going on, I disable that on peecees, as a rule. I notice that with UPnP enabled on the router, Azureus on my Linux box creates router rules for itself, or rather, gets the router to do it. nifty. I wouldn't want my computer to be so obliging to outside instruction, however.
By the way, you really don't need a software firewall running on yer puter, not if the router is setup right. It's a hardware firewall (hardware firewalls are software as well, of course, you can't block ports with diodes! afaik.) For some, I guess it's useful for watching outgoing connexion attempts. What can I say? pay the software license fees folks!
Ian, I tried the 110 app and got your import error! I must have been under the influence of something when I tried it first. Looking inside the firmware itself I can see how easy it would be to merge new cfg files into it, there's a HUGE space for this, I reckon it should be a doddle, with these tools, to create custom firmwares, the question now is, which one to use?
While I'm here, I have a theory, about gamers. See, they come here, cuz their shit's not working, then they get it working, and then you never see them again because.. they're playing their game, whatever it is, and they are consumed!
Actually, more and more I see that now, this page has been real busy, and only a tiny fraction of the folks actually post here, most come and go in under an hour! The port probe, as well as being a cool wee tool, has allowed me to watch folk making their shit work, it's great! They start off stealth-stealth-stealth, and then after a wee read, some messing about, it's SUCCESS!! And off they go.
me too..
;o)
Cor
this is interesting
get fwl global
mostly the max single host conn, max half open tcp conn and the max icmp conn
and to change the values the command is
modify fwl global (attackprotect enable-disable)(dosprotect
enable-disable)(blistprotect enable-disable)(blistperiod
decvalue)(maxtcpconn decvalue)(maxicmpconn
decvalue)(maxsinglehostconn decvalue)(logdest
email-trace-both-none) (email1 emailid)(email2 emailid)(
email3 emailid) (minlogtime decvalue)
page 70 in the 130extra2.pdf i sent you
wondered if this would help with connects
Ian
I forgot to mention, deep within the firmware binary is a reference to IRVINE LAB, which I think is involved with virus research, bioterrorism, biothreats and stuff, so maybe that's like a built-in anti-virus, or something
Does Makila's configurateur shows these fwl stats I wonder? Would be handy. I haven't been able to get that app to work for ages, won't login, even before I upgraded the firmware, even running under Wine on Linux. I originally thought it was a font issue. weird. Anyway, here's those command instructions from the router itself, run through tag tools, and thrown inside some pre bbcode tags ..The manual doesn't say much, but mine are currently set at 25/25/75, which is probably the default, and seems reasonable, I'm presuming the half-open and icmp are global settings. Perhaps the maxsinglehostconn could come down a wee, might help with WinMX, would need some longer testing, though, maybe one of our USB users..
I'll be back.
;o)
Cor you`ll be charging me rent soon for cybersitting
cor
the 130cli.pdf i sent you has a little more info page 386 seems that they can have value between 0-100
Ian
Cor
Hate the Idea of anything leaving my comp without my knowledge and as I am learning about security from you guys nothing gets out alive!! and it also gets rid of pop ups and animation sh## makes my
surfing better.
Now heres a noob question or two what is ICMP, Raw Sockets, why do I need Netbios open for a start?
best
barney
nb need a gmail invite?
Cant Set Up A LAN with router! Works with net on my pc via usb. Cant connect to other pc. Wen i go to repaid connex on the other pc it says: Repair failed: Unable to renew ip address. Help Plz desperate lol.
I follow ya Barney, gotta watch for those pesky phone-homers. gmail, sure! does it have decent pop acccess? smtp? I got all my accounts running from one mailbox set in thunderbird, so yeah, it's easy to add more of the buggers! They're always handy. I wonder if my favourite name@ is still available? hmm..
Ian, rather than a peppercorn rental, I'm offering you a ppp rental, every time you figure out someone's ppproblem, you can stay for another month!
br1ndy , you gotta run through the articles, setup a static IP address on your computer, stealth the router, etc. Be methodical, and if you are still having troubles, hit the troubleshooter page! And if you're still having troubles, tell us exactly what troubles you are having, with as much information as you can muster, and I promise we'll do all we can to sort it out for ya!
for now..
;o)
tut tut, not ALL gamers sort their stuff out and are never heard from again!!!! I still come on here and lurk at least once a day just in case i can pick up any info that might be useful to me in the future. If i can provide you guys with any gaming info please feel free to shout up and i will see what i can find out.
cor
what email addy for gmail?
Send to my addy and I,ll invite
best
barney
I am providing support for my sister-in-law in the UK (I'm in Japan), and would like to be able to remotely manage the Voyager.
All information I have found so far says that I have to be on the same subnet. Anyway to get around this?
- eh
I have Zonealarm installed seperate from my Bt voyayger 205 ADSL Router, But do i need firewall Software
briefly..
TFLnemesis, you are the exception dude! But really it's more PS2-ers and XBox users I'd like to hear back from, i.e, did the suggestions for games consoles work? or not? But if you want to send me setups for any games you play, they will be used!
Anonymous/eh, yeah, it's easy to configure the unit from afar, the "same subnet" stuff is just for LAN-side access. On the WAN side (internet), you can connect from anywhere.
Remember to set a good user/password combo, then simply load her IP in your browser or telnet client. I've configured a couple of 205's this way, and lots of people unwittingly have their router's set to allow *anyone* to configure them from over the web, default user/pass and all! crazy people.
Wayne, it doesn't hurt to run a firewall on your computer, but like I said above, really it's just for watching outgoing connexion attempts (some firewalls provide other security features too, like javascript protection, pop-up blocking, etc, which you may use). Once setup correctly (see the stealth page) the router will protect you from incoming connexion attempts.
l8rz..
;o)
ps.. thanks barney, will do that.
Hi guys!
Read the whole thread - superb work! Especially looking forward to the outcome of this pre-prepared uncrippled firmware cor and ian are working on. Nice one guys!
Speaking as a firewall/router engineer and a SLIGHTED gamer (lol), I figured it was time to contribute to this in some small way. If you're having problems with STEAM or any other game or console that has a server browser, try reducing your UDP NAT timeout to something really small like 3-6 seconds. The reason the router throws a wobbly when you try to ping 10,000 servers is exactly that - there aren't 10,000 spaces in the routers NAT table. If you set the timeout to something quite low, the table will empty as fast as it fills up and you won't overload the table.
Might be a similar thing happening with the stateful inspection in the firewall code too, but I haven't investigated that.
modify nat global udptimeout 6
commit
Hope this helps!
sc0.
Hi Cor,
Been running with the 100+ firmware for a few weeks now,
but have noticed that when Zonealarm is running it picks up the following and blocks it.
Any ideas why?
Description Packet sent from 192.168.1.1 (NetBIOS Name) to 192.168.1.4 (NetBIOS Name) was blocked
Rating High
Date / Time 2005/02/20 18:20:38-0:00 GMT
Type Firewall
Protocol UDP
Program
Source IP 192.168.1.1:137
Destination IP 192.168.1.4:137
Direction Incoming
Action Taken Blocked
Count 4
Source DNS
Destination DNS ######
got your standard rules in for bit/t and emule.
and all the security is enabled.
Cheers!
Digitaldazz
this might be why zone alarm is picking up on this
UDP Port 137
Common Use
Netbios Name Service is typically how Windows computers find out information concerning the networking features offered by a computer, such as System Name, File Shares, etc.
Inbound Scan
Inbound scans can be the result of everything from a harmless Reverse DNS lookup to a malicious scan for the availability of open shares to exploit. Currently most inbound scans are the result of a number of worms such as BugBear and Opaserv which exploit open file shares to propagate.
i now have a copy of 2.1 viking manufac release firmware that i can set up for bt settings, Its like rta100+ but with no crippled options at all, you get management control (disable web interface access from wan) back etc, only lights are screwed you get power=power usb=Dsl
ethernet=dsl act. All you would have to do is back up your current config upload firmware and upload config and you`ll be back up and running.
Ian
Cor
sorry haven`t been about last few days, bloody ethernet backbone and then they want the phone system wired for digital with cat5e so hopfully finish tomorrow and catch up on whats been going on here
l8tr
Ian
Ive been aving probs trying to set up an ftp using bullitftp, the thing is no 1 can connect to me from the out side it works perfectly on a network but not over the net. Ive gone through this and unfortunaly i still dont have a clue so could sum1 please please help me thank you!!
i been trying to run a game server with this router but still had no look i forwarded the ports which are 3000, 7000, 7100. 7200 but still even on the port probe on this site they seem blocked i even added the ports in the firewall still dont work anyone :( anyone have any idea on how to fix this.
barney
ICMP
Short for Internet Control Message Protocol, an extension to the Internet Protocol (IP) defined by RFC 792. ICMP supports packets containing error, control, and informational messages. The PING command, for example, uses ICMP to test an Internet connection.
RAW SOCKETS
A very small number of Windows applications make use of raw IP sockets, which provide an industry-standard way for applications to create TCP/IP packets with fewer integrity and security checks by the TCP/IP stack. The Windows implementation of TCP/IP still supports receiving traffic on raw IP sockets. However, the ability to send traffic over raw sockets has been restricted in two ways:
1. TCP data cannot be sent over raw sockets.
2. UDP datagrams with invalid source addresses cannot be sent over raw sockets. The IP source address for any outgoing UDP datagram must exist on a network interface or the datagram is dropped.
Netbios
Short for Network Basic Input Output System, a application program interface that augments the DOS BIOS by adding special functions for local-area networks (LANs). Almost all Windows-based LANs for PCs are based on the NetBIOS. Some LAN manufacturers have even extended it, adding additional network capabilities. (basically it controls low level network functions)
hope this explains it a little
Ian
lmikm
Hey, no worries Ian, I've been away myself. thanks for filling in Barney on the port stuff, I'm working on a "really really basic networking guide" that will cover these sorts of things, but in the meantime my answer was going to be jfgi!, but then I realised that a) he's such a nice guy that it wouldn't have been fair, and b) I was probably just in a mood, which is why I just left it, for now.
By the way, grc has an application that can disable raw sockets altogether, if anyone is interested. SocketLock, I think it's called.
Thanks for the comments and tips sc0jack, I'm glad my brilliant plan to draw gamers out of the woodwork is coming to fruition!
Digitaldazz, isn't the router inside your "trusted zone"? All data should pass freely inside the trusted zone, so why is it blocking communications from the router?
psycho, remember you need port 20 and 21 for regular FTP communications, and if you are using "passive" connexions, you'll need to define a range of ports for that, too, and then open them.
Stephen, most likely, there's another firewall running somewhere. Run through the troubleshooting page, especially the webserver troubleshooter. Also, it's probable that this isn't the complete range of ports, apparently many games makers don't list all the ports that their games actually use, which seems crazy, to say the least. Check the link in the useful links section to see if there's any you've missed. Sounds more like a firewalling issue, though. You've stealthed the router, disabled the XP firewall, etc, yeah?
And what does lmikm mean? Is that some coded message? A compliment? A question?
for now..
;o)
jfgi what does that mean!! got the picture thanks for the heads up keep up the good work
best
barney
barney
click on jfgi! (its a hyperlink) and all will become clear
cor,
no its not in my trusted zone, and its not going in till i can find out why its picking up these alerts?
any ideas, is it just a flaw with zone alarm or is something getting through?
Hi
Thanks for your email back...already stealthed and so on the router. Of course im using Ethernet.....would an OSX/linux user use anything else?? :o)
Anyhow - this is the symptom - verrrrrrrryyyyy slow web browsing.
Downlaod speed is fine, as several tests, including BT's own speedtest, indicate.
However, if i reboot my cube, then run traceroute on google it is fine for 1, 2, 3..uh oh...by the 3rd time i start getting lost packets, and the ping time is around 2 - 3 seconds on each hop. If i ping google, 2 - 3 seconds, but this is only after several attempts after a reboot.
This is annoying in a very major way...
Any ideas?
Ben
PS - if I run the advanced (!sic) diadnostics on the router, it ALWAYS fails on the primary DNS server ping. Also I have to use an IP address if i want to ping from the router to google, it will NEVER resolve.....
I've just downloaded your 'wire' program, but i haven't a clue how to get it up and running. I was kinda hoping it would have a setup file within, it hasn't. I got ver 0.9b, now also got 'stuff it' to unpack it, and I'm stuck.
Any clues fellas?
Cheers
digitaldazz
i don`t know if this will help extract from zonealarm 5.5 manual
and also reading their web site it seems zone alarm has problems with network traffic unless set just right.
Firewall alerts/Protected
Firewall alerts are the most common type of informational alert. Firewall alerts inform you that the Zone Labs security software firewall has blocked traffic based on port and protocol restrictions or other firewall rules.
Why these alerts occur
Firewall alerts with a red band at the top indicate high-rated alerts. High-rated alerts often occur as a result of hacker activity. Firewall alerts with an orange band at the top indicate medium-rated alerts. Medium rated alerts are likely the result of harmless network traffic, for example, if your ISP is
using ping to verify that you’re still connected. However, they also can be caused by a hacker trying to find unprotected ports on your computer.
What you should do
If you’re on a home or business network, and your Trusted Zone security is set to High, normal LAN traffic such as NetBIOS broadcasts may generate firewall alerts. Try lowering Trusted Zone security to Med.
By default, Zone Labs security software only displays high-rated firewall alerts. If your defaults have been changed, you may see a lot of medium-rated alerts. Try setting your alert display settings to medium.
If you a receiving a large number of firewall alerts, and you are working on a home network or business LAN, it is possible that normal network communications are being
blocked. If this is happening, you can eliminate the alerts by placing your network in the
Trusted Zone.
How to see fewer of these alerts
Repeated alerts may indicate that a resource you want to trust is trying repeatedly to contact you. If you are receiving a lot of firewall alerts, but you don’t suspect you’re under attack, try the following troubleshooting steps:
Determine if the source of the alerts should be trusted.
Submit repeated alerts to AlertAdvisor to determine the source IP address that caused the alerts.
If the alerts were caused by a source you want to trust, add it to the Trusted Zone.
Determine if your Internet Service Provider is sending you “heartbeat” messages.
Try the procedures suggested for managing ISP heartbeat. See “Allowing ISP Heartbeat messages,” on page 231.
So, in conclusion, digitaldazz, the problem is not with the incoming network traffic, but with your firewall settings. This traffic is normal and expected within the safe confines of your LAN, it's what makes the whole thing work as we expect.
A port probe from an "outside" IP (NOT 192.168.1.something) is a different matter altogether, of course, but with the router correctly setup, you won't get those, except on ports you specifically allow, to servers you are purposefully running. 192.168.1.1 is your router! and it wants to be friends with yer puter!
m0rt, it certainly sounds like you are having DNS troubles, most likely the BT nameservers plugged into your 205's brain are wonky. First thing to do is reconnect to BT. This will reset the DNS server entries on the router. There was a period when BT's DNS wonked out not so long ago.
Perhaps the servers you have been assigned are still wonky. To be certain of this, enable DNS polling (in a telnet session) ..
modify dns relay cfg pollstatus enable pollinterval 6and leave the session open for at least 6 minutes and watch for any errors that might pop up, report them back here, too.
You can set your own DNS servers, too. see above, in the main article for two good ones, and how to insert them. I imagined that the router used these only when its own presets failed, but it seems they do in fact over-ride the in-built servers, so you might just want to try this first and see! It may take a router-reboot (commit first) to take effect. Incidentaly, I recently beefed-up these entries, make sure you have the latest versions! (above)
If that doesn't (didn't) work, check again through all your TCP settings. On OS X they are pretty simple, but wee things, like an incorrect subnet mask, can really mess things up. Of course ensure your Mac's DNS server is set to 192.168.1.1 (!)
Ensure you have a good static IP, at least 192.168.1.3, and outside the DHCP range of the router, better still, disable DHCP altogether. Unless someone knows what they are doing, it's usually best to use one or the other, either static IP's or DHCP-assigned.
k, fer now..
;o)
ps.. Drifterman, feel free to email me about that. it'll get (even more) confused in here if we start takling the±wire! It needs no setup, btw, just run it, and rtfm! I'll get around to a real "how-to" page one day, maybe even add a comments section (which takes about 2.4 seconds to do, but hey!)
hi i have just got this bt voyager 205 and i cant play online games(football). my mates said that the ports have to be changed so it lets me play these. i cant host a game or be a client. can you let me no how to sort it please thanks
lee
Cor the only other firewall i have running is xp firewall which the ports i have added in to that as like what i said atm i have to use the voyager 100 which is fine for the short time but would really like to use the 205 router instead
lee, it's real easy, to open a port, simply drill a small hole in the rear of the router, if you need a range of ports, just drill a bigger hole. You can get dozens of ports into a really small space, say 5mm. For more precice instructions, check out the recipes, stealth and troubleshooter pages (links right at the top of this very page, which is also worth a read).
Stephen, switch off the XP firewall and test. If it works, use a different firewall (if your router is stealthed, as per instructions on stealth page, you don't really need a firewall on your computer) If not, try stealthing and unstealthing the router and test again. Delete your rules and check them, and put them in again. run through the troubleshooter.
If you haven't already, read through all the comments here.
Give us some more precise details for better answers, exact errors you are getting, what games, exact network setup, apps that DO work (p2p, for example), etc, etc, put it all in one post, once they scroll off the page they are pretty much outta here!
gotta shoot, ignore typos
;o)
i have xp home edition .i have recieved my btvoyager 205 router. ihave tried to install the routerand everything goes o.k untill it comes to the launch and it just won't connect.I,v tried contacting bt tech services but they are at a loss saying it's a firewall issue. Iv checked to make sure that the firewall is unchecked which it is so i,m at a loss why i can't get connected . I,v tried rebooting windows xp to give me the best possible chance but ot no avail .need help.
anonymous (pleeeze use a nickname next time) Firstly you need to connect via ethernet, not USB, as described in almost all the pages here. But first you need to read these fine pages, and work through the advice given; a fair bit of work, not only mine, went into it.
If, after all that, you still have an issue, drop back in here, but remember, phrases like "...it comes to the launch and it just won't connect" are meaningless. Connect what? Your browser to the web interface? Your router to the internet? What?
Be as full and specific as you can, give loads of info, copy-paste exact error messages, etc. Add any details you think might be relevant, letting us know exactly where you're sticking, and we'll definitely be able to help.
Your answer is probably in the main pages, though.
;o)
cor,
mail me as i deleted ur address by mistake.....duh!
Cor:- Thanks for your advice, you have ot excuse me for not giving accurate information. After connecting the router to a single computer and making sure we follow the exact instructions we cannot launch onto the internet .It is my brother-in-laws computer and for the past week we have tried alsorts to connect to the internet.His computer is only 18mths old and he has windows xp home installed when he purchased it .Last night we tried again using Ethernet instead of usb.We again followed the instructions from the c.d.that he got with his btpack,it again would not launch onto the internet.We have checked the status and it seems to be saying that the ip address is wrong . Also we can not find anywhere where it is saying btvoyager 205 has been installed . lt comes up with some other make.We need help.Tech services havn't a clue they say it is a firewall issue. We checked that and the firewall is unticked so that must be wrong.It's baffeling ,probably abit like this comment . Thanks for trying.
I'm trying to connect to work using CheckPoint SecureClient VPN.
Does the Voyager support VPN-Passthru, or have I just missed some configuration option
Thx
Please ignore my posting - after having read through all the other posts, I now know its possible.
Ta
Charles
If you are connected via ethernet uninstall any BT Software you have installed like USB drivers etc.
Switch off your router and reset it by pushing a paperclip into the hole on the back of the router hold it there for about 10secs make sure you are making a connection with the reset button then restart your comp then the router immediately you should see power diag dsl and ether lights come on in that order.
If not you have a dodgy router.
Give it a try
barney
barney ,does that mean we delete everything, that the c.d.install disk put on , and when the computer has wipe off all the exsisting funtions associated with btvoyager205,do we then reinstall from the disk that they sent us this time using the ethernet connection.To be honest we are as you can imagine pretty fed up.So much for the 20min connection time they set at the beginning ,in our case more like 168hrs and counting . Thanks
Charles just take out the usb drivers to start and then do the rest
good luck
barney
Cor
i found an easy way to open all ports, i tookthe top case off now my routers wide open
barney.Did what you said and got rid of the drivers.reset the router and reconnected the ethernet.I believe we are a step closer but we still cannot connect to the internet .Do you know what our ip address should be just in case that is causing us a problem.lt must be easier than this . Thanks
firstly, I got 2MB! w00h00! I noticed in my telnet session (there's always a stack of ssh/telnet/log tails/etc open on my linux box) that my PPP went down for a minute earlier on (I was out) and when I checked the router, TADA! Free upgrade. Damn! It flies! Upload speed still sucks big eggs, though. Anyways...
Good trick Ian! here's another, to forward ALL ports to a specific machine, all your do is draw a thick arrow symbol on the top of the unit (tippex is good, or a marker pen), pointing to the machine you want to route the ports to! If you move the computer in the future, just swing the router round a wee bit
*ahem* where was I? r8..
claire, OMFG!! How DARE YOU!
barney, yikes! I was going to mail you, but I don't have your email address, do I? I thought you left it in your first comment here, but I can't find it, goan mail me something so I can reply!
charles, barney's right again, remove ALL traces of BT software from your machine, USB drivers, Browser branding (grrr), etc, etc, and restart the (com)puter. I didn't even take the CD out of its envelope (in truth, it was weeks later before I realised there was a CD there) when I got the router I just plugged it and I was off!
Importantly, don't follow any instructions from either BT literature, or BT staff! It just causes headaches and wastes time. A static IP is best for your private computers. Run through the static IP page and ensure the puter is on the same subnet, router DHCP is disabled, etc.
If you still have troubles after all that, feel free to throw in heaps of information, screenshots of network dialog, etc. We will fix it!
okay, I'm off to queue up some super-fast downloads. I just gotta see a file coming down at 240kb/s
for now..
;o)
I cannot find your email address so heres mine again
send and I will invite
Sent invite found your address!!
best
barney
I have a voyager 205 router and I need to connect this to a BT Wireless Network 1250 Router. My DSL line is connected to the 205 which is fine but I need to somehow have a line (Ethernet/USB) from the 205 to my 1250 router. Don't ask why I've got it do this setup this was. It is a long story. Is it possible? How is it done?
cheers barney, that's a handy service! the smtp, in particular, is excellent, and accepts outgoing mail from all my accounts. SSL POP access is real nice, too. nice one!
Rob, just connect them up! A standard ethernet cable will do the trick (I presume; I know nothing about the 1250, hmm)
(a google later...)
Why don't you use only the 1250? It's a DSL modem and a router, too. Just plug that thing into an ethernet switch, and bob's yer uncle! Then you can send your spare voyager 205 to me! for experiments...
;o)
Hi Cor,
The problem I have is that I have no ADSL line plugged into the 1250 and it doesn't see an ethernet connection when I plug in the 205! I don't know why. The reason why I need to have both is because the 205 is supplied to me with a protected user name a password from my company which I don't have access to. I want to connect my desktop (via the ethernet with protected firewall) and another desktop via a wireless so I need the wireless of the 1250 but I want to use the connection via the 205. Any ideas?
Rob, I'd try..
Internet >> 205 >> ethernet switch >> everything else (including the 1250)
I don't think this will be possible without a switch, do you have one? If not, see the link in the "useful links" section above the comments.
As for the password, OF COURSE you have access to it! Just reset the bugger! "oops! dunno what happened boss!", etc. poke something sharp into that wee hole in the back. TADA! username: admin password: admin.
Anyway, you still don't need the 205, the 1250 and a switch would cover all your needs, won't it? in fact, the 1250 on ot's own should cover your needs, I don't understand, why not just plug the ADSL straight into the 1250?
;o)
Rob
use tftp client to download the teimage.bin file from the 205 send it to me at ian_wallace_2000@yahoo.co.uk i will load it into a hex editor and retrieve the username and password for you
following to the letter your cool instructions i seem to have lost the ability to send email do i need to set up a rule for that?
following to the letter your cool instructions i seem to have lost the ability to send email do i need to set up a rule for that?
Barney
i`ll look at those attachments probably on monday as wifes company in middle of move to new offices and its a bloody nightmare, got to set up print servers file servers etc so this weekend has gone, i `ll get back to you asap
Ian
Have a good weekend Ian?
best
barney
TO COR AND BARNEY. THANKS FOR YOUR HELP.UNFORTUNATLEY FOR SOME REASON WE BELIEVE THAT THERE MUST BE SOMTHING AMISS TO DO WITH WINDOWS XP HOME EDITION AND NOT THE ROUTER.WE HAVE CONNECTED THE ROUTER TO THE COMPUTER USING ETHERNET AND THE ICON OF TWO COMPUTERS BLINKS AWAY MERRILY AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SCROLL BAR.WE HAVE CHECKED THE STATUS AND IT SAYS CONNECTED MEANING TO THE INTERNET.WE HAVE NO FIREWALL RUNNING.WE HAVE DONE A PING TEST IT STATES THAT 4PACKAGES WENT OUT AND 4 PACKAGES RETURNED BUT COULD NOT FIND INTERNET PAGE.SO IT SEEMS THAT ALL THE TIME WE HAVE SPENT INCLUDING REBOOTING XP HAS MADE NO DIFFERENCE.WE CONCLUDE THEREFOR THAT THE ROUTER IS WORKING NORMALLY AND CONNECTS TO THE INTERNET BUT NO PAGE COMES UP.THANKS TO YOUR HELP, WE SEEM TO HAVE DONE EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO ENABLE US TO SURF THE NET.MY BROTHER-IN-LAW WHO HAD GREAT FAITH IN ME SORTING THIS OUT, HAS KNOW RESIGNED HIMSELF TO TRYING ONCE MORE TO GET TECH ADVICE EVEN THOUGH IT WILL COST PROBABLY QUITE ABIT. ON A MORE LIGHTER NOTE LET ME SAY IT HAS BEEN GOOD FUN GETTING YOUR ADVICE AND TEARING OVER TO HIS HOUSE TO TRY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM AND I THANK YOU BOTH FOR YOUR TIME AND TROUBLE.DO YOU RUN ANY MORE WEB SITES WHERE ADVICE MIGHT BE GIVEN ON OTHER ISSUES .
How do I block access to specific websites?
you could try using system restore to return xp home to before everything was installed say the day before, use reset switch on 205 to restore to defaults. now with everything off switch on router first wait util you get the solid dsl light then switch on pc, once xp home has started go into control panel or my network places and run the network setup wizard select the option my computer connects to the internet through another computer or a residental gateway at the end of the wizard just tell it to finish. once it has finished shut down and restart the pc and hopfully touch wood you will have internet
regards
Ian
Cor
i think we should do a quick set up guide like you get with canon or linksys products with screen shots, i think the first shot should be of the cd being out in the bin what do you think??
Ian
guys some help please you seem to have missed me i have just gone on to broadband and could do with some help i have resolved my mail problem but have an issue with explorer when edonkey is running can you help ????
mornin peeps! okay, timestamp won't be morning, but it's still before 12! And by the time I've recovered from last night and multi-tasked to the end of this entry it'll likely be evening, but hey!
First, justin, of course not! ALL outgoing connexions are allowed through the router (stealth rule number one) As to the other issues, YES! of course we can help, all we need is some good information to work with, and perhaps some patience on your part. I presume you've worked through the other pages here, troubleshooting, recipes, etc..
Charles, we've seen this sort of thing umpteen times, and it's always something minor that the user has overlooked, gateway address, whatever, it's fix-able.
Windows XP Home (which should reboot in seconds) with its default settings, and the router with it's default settings is sufficient for most folk. The whole thing should work straight out of the box. That's what Ian is recommending, too, as a reasonable starting point.
Folk don't get to this page unless a) it's NOT working, or b) they want to do something more than just basic surfing/email/whatever. You are catagory A! Or rather your brother-in-law is, and that's probably the biggest hurdle here, a sort of technical chinese-whispers. Of course you printed out all these router pages and took those over with you. Aye?
anonymous, what exactly do you mean? Block incoming connexions from a particular IP address? (yes) or access to a particular website from a computer (yes, also). More info please.
Ian, I have something like this in-progress already, you're suggestion for image one; dynamite! YES! I just hope I haven't already binned mine! (probably not, I file *everything*)
See, I hadn't really intended for this to be a help-all page, the router worked just fine for me out-of-the-box, and I created this mainly for folks who wanted to do a wee bit more, p2p especially, save them a few hours figuring out the weird CLI syntax, etc.
Regardless, the reality is that this has become Worldwide Voyager-Central, and gets thousands of hits a day. I have to presume that most folk get what they need, but probably many don't, and any way I can make things easier for them is good, and as time permits, this area has been restructured and expanded to provide more comprehensive instructions and data. That will continue, as, and this is important, time permits.
Ian, Barney, you guys deserve a medal! really.
l8rz..
;o)
I want to replace my Voyager with a Linksys Wireless G router (WRT54G). I've tried copying the settings from the Voyager but the Linksys refuse to work. Do you have any helpful hints?
Andy, the CLI syntax will be all different. See here, and ask about stuff here, but don't be afraid to come back if you don't get what you need.
;o)
Ok. I've scoured the damn sites and my head hurts. Sincerely. Am i being greedy? All i want is to ftp files to/from my xbox and pc.. i've got a usb/fast ethernet adaptor plugged into the back of my pc connected to a cat 5 cross over lead connected to my xbox (phew!) because my pc is using the 205 voyager ethernet connection for internet and downloading etc., and i just cant connect using flash fxp 8(
Any real info or links on this would be much appreciated... God bless and thank you for the green light 8)
Greetings,
I just found your site and within minutes, found most of what I was looking for.
So I thought I'd spend a few minutes to let you know that your site is just FANTASTIC; concise, clear, jampacked with precise information and instructions on how to do exactly what needs to be done and last but not least: well writen (a rarity on the internet nowadays).
One last thing: contrary to most people here, I'm looking for a way to disable P2P on my wireless hotspot; music and movies downloads use too much of my bandwidth. After reading through your pages I understand that Dynamic IP addresses should prevent it (or make it more difficult), but I'm 99% sure one of my users has found a way around.
Following your instructions (cut and paste), I've just created the 2 Stealth Rules.
Should I understand that this should be sufficient to permanently disable P2P if I don't create the server rules you specify right after the Stealht rules ?
What would be the format of to specify Start and End time, if my users convince me to let them do P2P at night ?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Again, great site and many thanks for all the usefull infomation I found here.
Pierre
PS: By the way, my router is not a "BT Voyager 205", but I figured since the screens you show are the same is a D-Link DSL-500G, they must be built around the same chipset.
Re - Blocking access to specific websites.
Thanks for the reply
I want to make it so that when my kids are using the PC they can't access sites that I know aren't suitable for them. They are very young and want to try and protect them. I've tried the parental controls and they're not what I'm after so what to try and block it using the firewall
Hi all, I have just got this router and I am having major difficulties uploading to my site using Dreamweaver MX. I can upload fine with dialup. I am really new (SORRY) to this and the ability to upload really fast was one of the reasons for going the broadband route. I have tried folowing the instructions on your site, but being new to this it all seems like double dutch, (SORRY AGAIN). Is it right to say that I have a problem with port forwarding?
Does any1 know what is going on and can any1 help me.
PLEASE HELP
well, Adrian, it sounds like the IP addresses need fixing. Your puter is set to run on a different subnet from your Xbox, you'll likely just need to assign a static IP to the Xbox, 192.168.1.200, or something.
Check out this article, and also this page, in fact, that whole site is good for xbox dabblers.
I'd also recommend getting a switch, so you don't have to keep plugging and unplugging cables all the time, but then, I always do.
Thanks for taking a few minutes Pierre, I keep all these juicy quotes for future business plans!
Dynamic addressing isn't the solution. Although the address may change, it will be good for the whole life of the peecee-to-router connexion, which could be days or weeks. With DHCP, also, you can't create rules specific to particular machines. If you want to take control, you'll need to assign them all static IP's. Then you can decide who gets what, and when.
Correct, having ONLY the two stealth firewall rules won't prevent users running P2P apps, but it will certainly prevent them running effectively, using up all your bandwidth, which is what you need. Without incoming connexions, protocols like BitTorrent will be much less effective.
However, I've often downloaded files at full speed with no incoming connexions whatsoever, you don't need incoming connexions to get fast downloads, though 90% of the time it makes a very real difference.
If a user downloads the XP SP2 update from microsoft, for instance, this regular www download will max out your whole connexion. This won't prevent other users from downloading files, they will just have to share the bandwidth. What you really need to keep an eye on, is upload speeds. There's a section in the troubleshooter page about this, and it's no small matter. The best way to deal with this is simply give each user a share of the upload bandwidth (80% total maximum) and explain that breaking this limit will have them removed from the network.
If you can get them to understand the issue, and be responsible, it can all work out swell. BitTorrent clients, for instance again, will prefer uploading to clients they are also downloading from, which is what makes it so fast if you are uploading, but you don't have to upload a lot, just enough to flick the switch in their software, if you know what I mean.
What you may want to look at, is "Traffic Shaping", something that (sadly) routers don't do (yet). Though if you were to route this traffic through a Linux/Unix/BSD box, you could take full control of the bandwidth parameters of each individual user, and more besides.
In the meantime, you could implement timed rules, yes, this example would allow standard incoming bittorrent connexions between the hours of midnight and 7am..
create ipf rule entry ruleid 6881 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq num 6 destport range 6881 6889 todfrom 00:00:00 todto 00:07:00 seclevel high medium lowYou would then simply create NAT rules to route the traffic. Each user can have a range of ports, or whatever. Feel free to pop back with more questions/opinions on this issue, my "let's get traffic shaping inside effin routers where it belongs" campaign is only just beginning!
have fun!
;o)
ps.. have to dash off for a bit, will answer others when I return!
ahhh, r8! anonymous, I'm with ya.
This is a thorny issue. Firstly, I don't know of a fail-safe way to deny access to "all potentially dangerous material", I don't think it's possible, and if it were, it wouldn't be happening at the firewall level, unless, of course, it was an all-singing, all-dancing firewall with "extras", which many are, these days.
If there is one specific site they are trying to access, then sure, you could block traffic with the firewall, but there's a definite limit to the number of rules you can plug into the thing, and no limit whatsoever on the number of sick and depraved sites out there.
I, a red-blooded male, can go for weeks, surfing my favourite places, getting the news and info and resources that interest me, without once seeing some plastic female getting hammered by a troupe of angry men, or whatever. Kids are looking for power-puff girls, and disney, and shit like that, and these sites, and rings of sites, are well separated from the sleezier backwaters of the indernet. Contrary to popular tabloid reports, the really nasty stuff, is actually quite challenging to find!
Sure, kids (boys) in the 6-11 age range DO come across adult content, adverts, pop-ups, mostly while looking for game cheats and stuff like that, but I haven't noticed them taking any real interest, they mostly shake their head and get on with looking for the cheats.
In my experience of children's internet usage, they generally don't come across dodgy stuff unless they are looking for it. And if they are looking for it, nothing you can install will prevent them finding it, better get used to the idea! Censorship sucks, anyway, shows how much we all need to grow up.
okay, okay, there's a few things you can do, content filtering, request blocking, etc, etc, start by reading this page, all the way through! As well as some good, sensible advice, you'll find links to resources which may be of some use. The best quote is.. "Remember: the best way to protect your children is to be involved in their lives, pay attention to what they do, and keep the lines of communication open". nuff said.
Actually no, one other thing. once you've installed all this content filtering and request blocking and all that shit, now you just have to hope, pray maybe, that they don't discover "adult" sites in, say, Korea, or Japan, who's URL's and content will just sail straight through your filter, and, incedentally, be about three "X"'s stronger than anything you'll find in English.
Unless you want to go the way of the Nazi, and install something like this, which gives access to a dozen or so "approved" domains, and restricts ALL others. You can add sites by hand, of course. Sadly, I fear this approach (fear) will become more common. It's easy enough to achieve with Windows XP® built-in controls, by the way.
What I'm saying is; if your seven year old kid starts trolling Japanese upload boards for mutilation and dismembermenent images, you don't need to block websites, you need to sit down and talk with your kid.
Brian, you shouldn't need to do anything very special to get FTP working. It sounds like we have a active/passive issue here. Check your preferences in Dreamweaver (which I am not familiar with) and see if it's using "Active" (also know, confusingly, as "port") or "Passive" connexions. Try the other one! (passive is almost always preferable, if the server supports it)
If the stealth rules are in place (especially the first one), FTP should just work either way. I have no troubles using both types of connexion to various FTP servers. Insert the stealth rules, and try again. Keep us posted.
By the way, broadband upload speeds are nothing to write home about, even the funky new 2MB service only has a 288kb/s upload capacity. Better than dial-up, sure, but not much.
;o)
Yeah there is an option for Passive but still get the same results :-(
If I use another FTP program, should it work OK?
Could you recommend 1.
Is there nothing I need to change in the router ?
Thanks for your time buddy. You are 10 times better than the so called BT support line
well, I don't know what the current state of your router is, so I can't say; but if you've entered at least the first stealth rule (add both!), and deleted the in-built firewall rules, you should be good to go.
I guess there's a slim possiblity, too, that FTP (WAN-Side) access has been enabled on your router. Although it's unlikely, you may want to check the Advanced >> Security >> Management Controls, in the router's web interface, just in case.
As for an FTP client for the peecee, there is only one; FlashFXP.
All the others are imitations.
for now..
;o)
You might be able to help, since BT are BT. I have BT Voyager 205, and trying to use communicator, which locks the router. So I called BT, still waiting for call back 2 weeks later and I found your site and upgraded the firmware. However after a couple of calls, BT Communicator stops letting me make calls, it says "internal server error when making call" when I click on the dial button. BT help is no help at all, and they are still waiting to call me about upgrading firmware which I already have. So there you see my problem, I hope. Can you give me some guidance. Cheers.
Joe
Joe, have you stealthed the router? If not, do that and try again. Follow the unstructions on the stealth page, remembering to delete all the other rules. Communicator works much better for me after the firmware upgrade (and the 2MB upgrade) but it needs a good 10k spare upload capacity to work well, pause the torrents, etc.
Remember, you can always DOWNgrade the firmware again if it doesn't work out. Also, whatever you do, give it time; the communicator service is still not 100%, and can be more than occasionally weird.
;o)
Thanks for this page mate! I configured most of the basics myself change pw, setup ports etc. But now I have this reference I can feel more confident that I am getting the best out of it.
I love the format also!
Thanks Cor, for the info.
I am so sorry for being a pest but you seem to be my last resort.
I have reset my router back to defaults... Can you give me a brief description of how I can do :---
"well, I don't know what the current state of your router is, so I can't say; but if you've entered at least the first stealth rule (add both!), and deleted the in-built firewall rules, you should be good to go. "
I am also having problem connecting to WinMX, I am not sure what details I should be entering into the TCP options.....
Once again You are the saviour I bow in you presence :-)))
No problem Brian, everything you need is in the a) stealth page and b) recipes page. See the very top of this page for the links.
Essentially, you delete all the current firewall rules, add the magic two (stealth rules), and then follow the WinMX recipe for the NAT/port forwarding stuff, you almost can't go wrong.
;o)
ps.. hey, rich! I have a format?
Cor: Hi what the game server i running i put my wan ip in aswell as my lan ip but for some reason the computer cannot see the wan ip only lan so wont connect i can get on the game no prob with just lan but it wont see the wan ip at all any ideas thanks
Hi Cor,
Thanks for some great info, however I am still left in the unknown.
I need to setup the router to allow RDP (TCP/3389) access in to the server, but only from 2 known IP addresses.
I created the NAT rule for this with Rule ID 10 to Server IP using Port 3389
I didnt understand the "create nat rule entry ?" command so I tried to add the entry in the IP Filter page, is this correct?
Thanks.
Cor
network finished, came home today and my main system 200gb harddrive died so using emergency backup, one drive rma`d to maxtor just over a year old bummer.
Stephen, need some more (plain english) information, dude!
PaulG, nah, if you must use the web interface, the NAT rules are inside Advanced >> IP Routing >> Drop-down the NAT options menu and select the middle option: NAT virtual server/DMZ. You can use the advanced page selector tool (right above these comments) to take you straight to the page, too.
Ian, oh man! I'm looking at my FOURTH replacement Maxtor drive in around the same timescale. It's been sitting here for like three weeks, dead, had to wait until I calmed down about it before I could email the f*****s! The most recent replacement didn't even last a week!
To think, I used to recommend Maxtor drives almost exclusively. Used to be good units. Seagate is where it's at these days, methinks. Pity Maxtor won't swap their duff drives for Seagate units!
Well done with the network, by the way, you get all the print servers and shit working too? Print servers usually conspire to make my life challenging!
;o)
OK, done all that stuff with the router and still emule tells me the same "port 4662 is not reachable" business so wtf am I doing wrong?
Please someone tell me (prefs in email) maybe its the order in which I did stuff I just don't know.
I have a LAN and all I want to do is use emule and a few other things via my machine and leave the other alone (mines on the USB)
dont want a bloody firewall either.
Cheers in advance
Rubber Man
Rubber Man, it's definitely not rechable; I tried.
The solution is simple; first, ditch the USB, and connect with ethernet (if you have more than one computer, get a switch). Next, follow the same instructions you did before (I'm presuming you read the stealth and recipes pages) and TADA! This time it will work!
;o)
ps.. you DO want a firewall, really, especially if you run windows.
Cor I have already addedd the NAT rule in the virtual server, its the restricting it to only allow through on the two IPs i'm stuck on.
ahh, I see, PaulG. Well, you need to add that to the firewall rule, like this..
create ipf rule entry ruleid 1000 ifname public dir in srcaddr eq 216.127.86.76 act accept transprot eq tcp destport eq num 1000 seclevel high medium lowWhich would allow corz.org, and only corz.org, to connect to your machine on port 1000. Just like the other rules, you can have ranges of addresses, too. do..
create ipf rule entry ?in a telnet session for all the options.
have fun!
;o)
Hi cor,
I've added the dyn dns rules to the router, at first it was updating my IP with dynamic dns ok, but it doesn't do any more, I've to go and do it manually. Do you know what the issue might be or when is the router supposed to update the IP address, is it after every reboot or whenever the IP address changes.
thanks
Cor, Thanks so the following two entries would allow corz.org to access the RDP on the server with the following:
create ipf rule entry ruleid 3389 ifname public dir in srcaddr eq 216.127.86.76 act accept transprot eq tcp destport eq num 3389 seclevel high medium low
create nat rule entry ruleid 3389 rdr prot num 6 lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.2 lcladdrto 192.168.1.2 destportfrom num 3389 destportto num 3389
If so, thanks for all your help, and a crackin site!!!
help me please. cant get win mx to work and i hope you can give me some ideas. got very little knowledge of puters however i share files. obviously illegal oops. winmx sets up i can search but never download?? except jpeg and stuff mp3 never starts lol.
Pleas help me
Andy
yay! PalG, you've nailed it!
One concern.. 192.168.1.2 is usually assigned to the router's USB port, and will only be available if you specifically disable the USB interface. Easier to assign 192.168.1.3 or higher to the puter instead. ensure DHCP is disabled (or configured to use a small range elsewhere, like 192.168.1.50 - 192.168.1.99, or something) on the router, and go fot it! Oh! And what does the "P" stand for? I always call it RDC.
If you want me to test the RDC for ya, drop into my site chat this evening, and I'll drop into your desktop in return!
omer, it should renew the ddns entries at every new ppp connexion. So both a reboot and a simple reconnect will trigger the ddns update. afaik, mine's been working just fine. I checked just now and the three hosts I have in the router point correctly back to me. hmmm. do..
get ddns hostnamein a telnet session, and see if your host entries are where they belong. perhaps you rebooted the unit without first committing your ddns entries, and now they're gone! If that's not it, get back here, we can look closer.
andy, what you do with your broadband is you own concern, just remember to support deserving independant artists with hard cash, when you have it.
As to WinMX, it simply sounds like you haven't setup the port forwarding yet, or correctly. Read the stealth page, slowly, and follow the instructions therein. Then do the same on the recipe's page, following the WinMX recipe. When you're done, test again, and if you still have problems, tell us exactly what they are, the errors you are getting, messages from the port-probe, etc, and we can take it from there. All necessary links at the top of this page.
for now..
;o)
hi cor,
I got the following for the ddns
$get ddns hostname
Interface HostName
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
ppp-0 omer-homelan.dyndns.org
ppp-0 omer.homelinux.net
$get ddns intf
Interface : ppp-0
Service Provider : dyndns
User Name : omerio
Type of system : dynamic WildCard : enable
Mail Exchanger : -
Mail Backup : disable Offline Support : disable
also after saving the router config on disk I got these commands:
create ddns hostname ifname ppp-0 name omer-homelan.dyndns.org
create ddns hostname ifname ppp-0 name omer.homelinux.net
create ddns intf ifname ppp-0 srvcname dyndns username "omerio" passwd ***** wildcard enable
by the way on the user name is enclosed by "" but the password isn't
any clues?
thanks
aha! omer, try..
create ddns intf ifname ppp-0 srvcname dyndns username "omerio" passwd ***** system dynamic wildcard enableAssuming you really do own those domains, and they are dynamic, that should fix it.
;o)
hi dear freind.
i am having a lot of problems with my 205 voyager adsl router and i need help please in details if possible.
im running the internet on usb and it picks ip 192.168.1.3 and on the ethernet i have a digital sattelite receiver called the dreambox which picks up ip 192.168.1.4,now the problem is that my dream box swometimes works sometimes doesnt,the dreambox needs tcp ports 4000 to 4020,i have followed some of the rules you give out,but still does not work,i might be doing something wrong.can u help please.by email if possible.
thanks
Hi,
I followed your pages on Stealthing and entered all the information as requested. The only thing I havent done is removed all additionl id's for the firewall. I have tested the protection on the grc.com page but it still says that I am vulnerable. I have committed all settings and confirmed that they are all in place. I am connected using ethernet and upgraded firmware to 1.6... any ideas?
Cor Thanks again, If I was any good a soldering I would have taken the 205 apart and desoldered the USB port from the unit, but some gaffer tape over the hole is just as good.
RDP, I have always called it RDP, Remote Desktop Protocol, hope I wasn't making shit up
Just remove the other rules Brian. Now it's fixed!
George Bridi, the most like reason it "sometimes works sometimes doesnt" is that its IP is changing. What to do..
- ditch USB & get ethernet
- assign static IP's to the dreambox and computers (see static IP page)
- create a firewall and a NAT rule for the dreambox.
have fun!No, PaulG, "Protocol" is good! I just hadn't thought about it, always calling it "Remote Desktop Connexion". And hey, soldering's easy, it just (like networking) takes practice. Gaffer tape is fine, so long as it reminds you to NEVER plug anything into that hole!
;o)
cor.
thx for your help,but im confused big time,is there a way you can do this for me and save the file and send it to me so i can upload it to my router,im sorry for being a pain but im not familiar with these kind of stuff like nat and firewalling.
thx again.
Hi Cor,
Thanks for your brilliant page and throrough instructions. Even I was able to follow it and lock up this 205 tigher than a ..... All security pages visted say "what computer?" every port is 100% stealth.
Some issues:
1) TROUBLESHOOTING:
ADVANCED DIAGNOSTICS - Testing Internet Connectivity
Ping Primary Domain Name Server "FAIL"
Is this a concern or problem?
2. I can no longer use MSN or Windows Messenger with mic or sound. Somewhere between the NATs I guess it gets lost and dropped. Can anything be done to tweak this?
3. I have just odrered a VoIP ditigital Voice converter for SIP telephone calls which will go out to/from via the ethernet link betweem the modem and the PC. WIll there be any problems or reconfiguring to TELNET to the box to help?
4) As it stands My 205 talks to my ASDL Wire 4port/Wireless router (AHATPE) on subnet 192.168.1.4 /255.255.255.0. before the LAN. The LAN subnet pool is setup via the Router control panel 192.168.2.254:8090 for 192.168.2.x. The Router also has SPI firewall rules that can be configured, but so far nothing is added.
*You reckon any considerations or changes?
Any advice is very welcome. Drop me your paypal address and I'll drop you my appreciation.
Cheers M8
JamesO
Opps not intentional, "anonymous" above is "JamesO"
hi cor
I am having trouble opening ports 6881 -6889 for bit torrent. PC is win 98 router BT voyager. I followed your rules for NAT and IPF (only 3 NAT rules). PC has static address 192.168.1.3. No firewall is running. Shields Up reports all ports STEALTH Black list is disabled. Any ideas on what I have done wrong
thanks
ken
Hi JamesO
I had the same problem for a while now, sometimes, everything is fine, but when I open a page it says page can't be displayed then when I carry the trouble shooting on the router you get this,
ADVANCED DIAGNOSTICS - Testing Internet Connectivity
Ping Primary Domain Name Server "FAIL"
Having that problem I started up a DNS server on my Redhat pc at the sametime and everything worked fine, phone BT took them a couple of days to come up with my line is fine and they don't know where the problem is, although I answered it for them, it's their DNS problem, but they ignored to admit that...
my advise ditch BT DNS and add your own to the router as cor mentioned above and don't forget to set the priority, if you have the time and energy setup a DNS server, I hit two birds with one stone, my DNS is also translating my fancy PC LAN names into IP addresses.
let us admit that BT DNS sucks
hi cor
I think this is a good idea, I'm sure your effort and this page helped alot of people so I will do the same if you give your paypal address
Hi
Great page, probably alot more than i needed but great, i'm simply trying to forward port 80 so i can share my web pages to certain people on the web, for some reason i can't access the advanced pages on the router page http://192.168.1.1/hag/pages/home.htm which will allow me to do this , you mention telent, can i use this to acheive the same outcome??
Hi Thats for DNS advice! Mor sure how to even begin setting up my own, but using another make good sense.
BUT: Question 2 above ???
2. I can no longer use MSN or Windows Messenger with mic or sound. Somewhere between the NATs I guess it gets lost and dropped. Can anything be done to tweak this?
Where the Paypal donate button? =:)
4am, and your tech dude stumbles home.. *sigh*
I'll have to tackle these tomorrow, my brain hurts, there would be errors! nite nite!
;o)
ps.. you can click my smiley (above these comments) for my email address. many thanks! even small amounts can radically alter my week!
You got your DNS answer methinks JamesO, let us know how that goes. As for the MSN messenger, you'll likely need to create a port-forwarding rule for that. Unfortunately messenger seems to use a HUGE range of ports for its communications, essentially all ports from 5004 to 65335, which means you'll probably want to run a firewall on the local machine, too.
But before you do that, check that UPnP is enabled on your windows box AND the router. On Windows XP, you can find UPnP in the Services console (run "services.msc") and you can check the router by issuing..
get upnp cfgin a telnet session. When both are enabled, messenger should open and close ports as needed. At least in theory. Remember, only enable UPnP on a windows machine BEHIND a router. NEVER enable UPnP on a windows machine directly connected to the internet.
If that fails, you'll have to move to plan B, which used to work, but may not with newer versions of messenger. opening up *a few* ports..
firewall:
create ipf rule entry ruleid 6901 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq tcp destport eq num 6901 seclevel high medium lowcreate ipf rule entry ruleid 6902 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq udp destport eq num 6902 seclevel high medium lownat:
create nat rule entry ruleid 6901 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.3 lcladdrto 192.168.1.3 destportfrom num 6901 destportto num 6901
If that doesn't nail it, it's plan C, LOTS of ports, like this..
firewall:
create ipf rule entry ruleid 5004 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq tcp destport range 5004 65535 seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 5005 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq udp destport range 5004 65535 seclevel high medium low
plus a NAT rule like this..
create nat rule entry ruleid 5004 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.3 lcladdrto 192.168.1.3 destportfrom num 5004 destportto num 65535Should do it for you, but remember the local firewall; that's a *lot* of ports to be left open. I'd truly appreciate feedback on what works here, I don't use messenger at all, and I'm sure that many do, would be good to add a good recipe to the recipes page. As a last resort, I'll have to sign up and install the bloatware myself!
I'm not sure about the other stuff, I'll need more details to give informed advice. I know that no extra hardware is required to get SIP working, I use BT Communicator daily, and it works great, with no firewall or NAT rules or anything.
As to the wireless/router connexions, I'd probably put the 205 at the WAN side and feed everything esle from a connected LAN switch, but really, it's less easy to figure out the pitfalls until you actually plug all this stuff together. When you do, we'll be here! keep us posted m8.
ken, it could be a number of things. Did all thew rules enter without error? If you go look in the web interface, does everything look like it should, like the examples here? I'd avoid the standard BitTorrent ports, more than one ISP has started to block (stealth) that range of ports, so pick a range somewhere else. I use 49,000+ sort of numbers and it never causes any trouble with trackers. I recommend azureus, too.
You might want to look for other firewalls, too, like in your BIOS. The buggers are everywhere these days! I don't know if you still have the same IP as when you posted, but when I tested port 6881 at that IP just now, I got "connexion refused", so at least it's a step in the right direction!
manjit, see this page.
George Bridi, it's just a mental block! Start by clicking this link and enter "admin" (no quotes) then "admin" again. you're in! Now all you need to do is run methodically through the static IP page, and then add the firewall/NAT rules in your new telnet session. If you make a mistake, worry not, you can easily wipe them and try again. Use a decent text editor as a middle-man while you alter the ports/IP's to suit your needs.
Open the web interface at the same time and check how your rules look there. It's a good place to delete rules, too. All this will empower you! As a last resort, you could click that new button up top generously, and I could arrange to access your machine, or something, but it's better if you do it yourself.
Lastly, the PayPal button is (or will be once I mess about trying to fit a paypal form into my toolbar's image maps, erm..) at the very top of every single page, no excuse now! I rarely buy luxuries, even beer, so you can rest assured all donations go towards keep this place slick and useful.
for now..
;o)
ps.. hey omer! iisn't it cool being able to get to your router typing "router" instead of 192.168.1.1!
This site was exactly what I needed for WINMX.Thanks!
For those having a problem accessing the advanced pages,I used the excellent "Secret Admin Page Selector".
Thx again.
how do i open ports for online gaming,xbox
ahh, someone noticed the Secret Admin Page Selector! Well done anon1! it's sort of a reward for getting to the end of the article! heh. enjoy your speedy winmx downloads!
anon2, same way you open ports for all servers. check the generic rules on the recipes page.
;o)
ps.. in the short time it took me to create this post, I've had THREE "ATM VC Congested" warnings from the router! oh! Four!, quick, cor, post!
cor
What are "ATM VC Congested" warnings? What is actually happening?
best
barney
How do you open multiple ports so that the stay open ? if you cant how do you keep triggering them to open over and over?
hi cor,
I had entered one of the ip addresses incorrectly. A case of seeing what you expect when I went back thro' them. All is well now. Thanks for all the information and help
ken
hey barney, firstly, they're nothing to worry about, what I think is happenning is that the ATM queue is hogging up at the ISP's end.
Probably BT didn't take the time to properly configure and tune the traffic shaping charecteristics of the ATM, or something like that. as ever, they'll be trying to fit too many subscribers into too few physical wires. (do "get atm stats" for the juicy details)
duffy, I've avoided port-triggering altogether here, with the 205's stateful inspection mechanism and many ALG's, most folk will never need it. put the term out of your mind!
Simply create a regular port-forwarding rules, like in the recipes page. The IPF (Firewall) part will ensure the port stays open, and the NAT part will ensure the traffic always points to the correct "private" machine. TADA!
for now..
;o)
ps.. glad it worked out ken, that would definitely account for the "connexion refused" I got. With puter things, nine times out of ten it's a user error! I know, I make them all the time. One day, computers will do all this stuff for us, and we can just get on with our work!
Of course, we turn-of-the-century humans the ones defining all this. Guinnea Pigs!
oh yeah, another thing, omer, congratulations! You are officially the first user of my new PayPal button! If I had a Christmas list, you'd be on it!
cheers mate!
So that's the blank DVD's covered, now I need the P&P, come on dudes!
;o)
thanks mate, i'm in the advanced settings, now there is alot of conflicting info out there do i need a static ip address to port forward port 80 , i want certain people to see the web pages on my box, but i can't seem to create the right NAT rule to allow this, ive tried using static and dynamic ip addressing but think i'm getting the NAT rule incorrect!!!!
manjit, Yes, you need a static IP. I added a webserver recipe to the recipes page, or rather, I uploaded my dev copy, which was newer. check it out.
By the way, when you say "certain people", remember you'll need to specifically configure this, password protection, whatever; there's no such thing as a "secret webserver", http is a world-wide free-for-all!
;o)
do you have to open ports one by one ? if not how do you open like 100 at a time it will not let me type 2300-2400 etc
i dont understand how to open a range of ports :(
on my add ports page all it has is , rule flavor , rule id , protocol, lan ip address , destination port and local port , it only allows five numbers either in destination port or local port it wont let me type 2300-2400 etc can u help plz :)
where is the ipf firewall part?
bt voyager 205 adsl router
Hello.I have 2 local area connections one for ethernet and one usb. Which shud i change the i.p. on to make static, also when i change to static my internet connection doesnt work and i have to reset my modem :(. my msn address is doofay_@hotmail.com if you could add me and help me i would be very grateful thankyou
concanated into one post, by cor
Hi Cor,
Firstly thanks for taking such time to be so thorough in trying to put answers and solutions to these issues.
My puter never connected to the internet even though the 205 was, until I added the BT DNS 1st and 2nd into the manually fixed IP LAN settings o the puter. (192.168.2.1) The default Gateway is the AHTPE on the LAN,(192.168.2.254) the WAN side is on a different subnet, between it (192.168.1.4 assigned by the DHCP of the 205 on (192.168.1.3) But the pages are still (192.168.1.1) Do I got you confused now?
1) Advance settings, DNS still fails to ping primary. I did change the settings in the Voyager to yours listed above. Made no difference. So am I esentailly behind behind (2) NATS? 1)ADSL/ROUTER/Wireless Router we will call (AHATPE). and (2) 205? I ended up the 205 just because I did not want to buy a new wireless 4 ort rotuer with modem, when BT gave the 205 with th package. Now as for BT service and price, I wish I bought a 205 off ebay and went elsewhere for cheaper and better support. BT know nothing and tech support cannot answr any tech questions. (worthless)!! Back to issues now ....
Both Routers have webased mgt pages with SPI firewall and cofigurable rules. My Voyager 205 box is stealthed as per you instructions 100% no exceptions or rules added,. Security is set to high, and the other tweaks you added)
UPNP in enabled on the Voyager and also now on the puter and now allowed inside windows SP2 firewall as an exception.
I seem to be behind two NATs. My ASDLWireless Router i guess eems to act as a gateway that via the WAN which is connected to the Voyager .The rules for the ADSL Wireless router seem confusing to configure, especially with the forwarding you you gave to open ports. Nothing is set except IMCP blocking is enabled.
So for MGT of this unit there is ICMP blocking, Incoming/Outgoing Policy, PortMapping, Virtual server, Port Triggering. On the LAN interface there is DDNS and (I'm clueless what this is!) Router Services, offers Dynamic Routing, Static Routing.
I see in the AHATPE log there are regular packet erroor warningin between it and the 205. Here's a copy of a consistent error msg: about 10x a day. (greek to me!)
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Mar 5 16:09:33 wifi daemon.warn klogd:
Invalid packet: IN=eth1 OUT= MAC=00:65:74:68:2d:31:00:11:f5:27:37:a3:08:00 SRC=192.168.1.1 DST=192.168.1.4 LEN=78 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=6601 PROTO=UDP SPT=137 DPT=137 LEN=58
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I don't know what it all means or whats next or what suggestions you have.
I just would like Windows msg to work or MSN with voice, so I can sometimes communicate with family in the USA on their puter.
When the SIP box arrives I'll let you know the scoop them.
Lastly I've no idea how to hit the donate button, but I am a strong believer in DA WAT GOS RND theory!(And I hope dat catches up with those F'n nigerians conmen soon!)
(Hey drop me a msg from corz.org)
Cheers M8
Jas
Hi
My BT connection entitles me to 2 IP #s (both of which are set dynamically) - I can't afford to the biz-contract! where they give you STATIC IP #s.
The only 1 worth anything, of course (as u point out), is the eth0 IP. My question is, anyone out there know whether its possible to somehow use the 2nd IP ... the 1 assigned to the USB port? ... something on the lines of connecting it to the BT switch (get an IP #) ... and deploying that on another ethernet nix? ... I've been thinking of someway to do this, but can't seem to crack it. Appreciate if anyone has cracked this.
Cheers -zc
do u know how u type 192.168.1.1 how can tat be everyones ip address also can you open ports on this i.p. address or do u need a static i.p.?
hi
First, duffy, ditch the web interface. Now go read the recipes page. All your answers are there. If you still don't understand, read it again!
anonymous, go read the static IP page. Then you'll understand.
zc, I think you are confusing private and public IP's (like anonymous is). If BT say you have two IP's, that will be "public" IP's. nothing to do with the USB port, or ethernet port, or 192.168.1.anything.
The only way you could have a second public IP would be to setup two ppp intefaces. ppp0, and ppp1, for instance. You might want to try (in a telnet session, as ever)..
create ppp security ifname ppp-1
create ppp security ifname ppp-1 chap login voyager205.user@btbroadband.com
create ppp intf ifname ppp-1 startondata mru 1500 lowif aal5-0 droute true ppoa outside usedns true
and see what happens! Probably not a lot, though, because that's just a wild off-the-top-of-me-head type thing. There's probably more about this in the PDF's, but personally I think you're wasting your time. A single IP is plenty; if you need multiple pathways to your IP, use DDNS (see the tricks page for more info).
JamesO, you just click it, dude!
I also believe in DA WAT GOS RND, but it sometimes takes sooo long!
for now..
;o)
Cor - firstly I like to say well done on a excellent little site some useful tips.
After trying everything I still had no joy but what I did findout was that the voyager has the global udp and tcp timeout set at 300 I have set both of these to 10 and this seems to have sorted the problems out unfortunately I can't get good download speeds off emule if I use stealth any ideas
Hey Cor, just checking to see any input for issues raised above. BYW: DNS is working now!-cheers Click what m8? Hoping I'm not that daft, but where? Otherwise I'll use the default email off your reg for corz.org. Back to work.....
Jas
Hi Cor
Thanks for the help on the following rules
create nat rule entry ruleid 3389 rdr prot num 6 lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.2 lcladdrto 192.168.1.2 destportfrom num 3389 destportto num 3389
However the create ipf rule just returns "invalid command" or something along thoughs lines.
The create nat entry works fine. I also tryied to add the firewall rules via the web admin, and even though they were successful they refused to let me in on the srcaddr I entered.
Can you test and see if the same error occurs
Thanks.
thanks Neo, the UDP/TCP timeouts are something I've yet to devote a lot of time and testing to, gamers have found making UDP timeouts real short can help with finding servers, amongst other things, but I've not seen much difference with the kinds of apps I run, so ymmv.
I'm keen to know; what was the problem than altering the timings fixed? In case it crops up again.
The Emule thing just sounds like you're not accepting inward connexions, did you enter the eMule rule from the recipes page? (all links at the top of this page) If so, did you probe it? If not, do that, you need to get "success!!!" on your chosen port for it all to work. If you don't get "success!!!", run through the troubleshooter, especially looking out for hidden firewalls along the way. keep us posted.
Hey, JamesO, I'm not done with your tech, but I think we need to simplify things a bit, one gateway, one firewall, that kinda thing. It makes my head hurt just reading about your setup! Configuring it will be no mean feat. It's good to at least *start* with simplicity, if possible. Get one thing 100%, then move on.
The error's are nothing to worry about, just the router trying (and failing) to make friends with your puter, I don't have a clue what "AHATPE" is. I'd start with a basic DSL > router > switch > everything approach, adding devices one at a time, utilising only the necessary functionality of each unit, in other words, if you have a NAT (the 205), all other NAT-capable devices must be configured to NOT NAT! etc. It's always doable, eventually.
And look! right at the very very top of all the pages, far right, far out! A PayPal button! There are other, perhaps better, ways that folks can help out, I might do a wish-list type page, sort of like the "pay_for_living" license notice at the bottom of corzoogle, but with pictures.
for now..
;o)
Hi,
I am trying to run a php socket server for an aviator chat called Cowtoon (Purchased from ww.cowtoon.com).
I have installed everything that it asks like easy php 1.6 and then ran server_start.bat and everything work from my end (e.g. Localhost)
But other people cant get through via my ip as you can see for your self http://81.132.189.22/chat
I think it has something to do with firewall bt have no idea how to take it off so people can access this chat
Please Help
Thanks
p2p port probe always has given a success but for some reason with the stealth on I can't get any decent file sharing speeds??
I actually got Shareaza downloading some files today at 40 - 90 KB/s but then all of a sudden after about 4 hours at that all the connections dropped of and I haven't been able to get the connection speeds back up. Do you know anything about the other time settings in nat global or do you have any other ideas?
I'm confused and perflexed with trying to get MAC iChat AV links to work with the 205. Has anyone else had any such problems? I have taken down mac firewall/router firewall and still certain connections fail to link. Those people I am trying to link to, CAN however connect to others. I too CAN connect to someone in the UK with no trouble. I can understand WHY certain links fail. Is it anything as regards the standard 'untouched' settings of the 205? Should I make changes to some settings to allow better port operations? I keep hearing references to SIP, does this come into the situation anywhere?
Comments welcomed!
Hi, first want to say i love the site, loads of useful stuff.
i'm trying to open my 4662 port for emule (lots of probing, no connections) and i've done the following:
got a static ip (192.168.1.4)
(subnet 255.255.255.0)
(gateway 192.168.1.1)
(preferred dns same as gateway)
(no alternate dns)
got xp firewall rules for tcp and udp in place
got the stealth rules 5 and 500000 in security-ip filter-custom in place (from the site, thanks)
got the emule nat recipes in place
and emule tells me my 4662 port is unreachable. is this something really obvious or am i justified in being this confused?
any help would be greatly appreciated.
harry
Hi,
I am trying to run a php socket server for an aviator chat called Cowtoon (Purchased from ww.cowtoon.com).
I have installed everything that it asks like easy php 1.6 and then ran server_start.bat and everything work from my end (e.g. Localhost)
But other people cant get through via my ip as you can see for your self http://81.132.189.22/chat
I think it has something to do with firewall bt have no idea how to take it off so people can access this chat
Please Help
Thanks
Hi there, great site.
I currently have ntl broadband (UK) with the cable modem connected to my Linksys WRT54G Broadband Wireless Router, which I have 1 PC connected via cat5e and 2 wireless PCs. My PS2 is also connected via cat5 in a DMZ.
I'm about to change provider to BT and will receive my ADSL Voyager 205 shortly.
My question is: will I still be able to use my Linksys and on which device should I set up my port forwarding etc?
N.B. My linksys router has the option to behave as a router or a gateway.
update ...
am I right in thinking I need to change the ip of the WRT54G, top something other than 192.168.1.1 ? if the v205 is also that address?
anonymous (man, I gotta remove the ability to post anonymously!), it sounds like you need to disable your Windows® XP built-in firewall, which lives inside the properties for the "Local Area Connection" (advanced tab).
But then I tried to connect myself, and I got "Connection Refused", which indicates more that either the NAT rule is pointing to the wrong machine, or possibly there's a different firewall somewhere. I think the XP firewall would report "stealth", but I've not used it (confirmation appreciated, from anyone) The XP firewall can also be configured to allow inbound connexions, simply create a www service.
Neo, if you remove the second stealth rule, and suddenly everything works, there must be something wrong with the firewall rules. Double-check and triple-check them! Sooo often folk bang their heads for hours only to realise that, for instance, they added a zero to the port number, or something daft like that.
If the p2p port probe reports success, you're good to go! so long as the ports you are testing do indeed match the ports your app is using, then anything else must be p2p network issues of some sort.
I think often folk expect to much from the internet, sure 240kb/s downloads ARE possible with a 2MB link, but not every download, not every day..
Folk over-cap their upload speeds, distant, skinny conduits get congested, interesting sites slashdotted, whatever, if you experience one good download session, just one, then the firewall/NAT rules are good. Save them and forget them! Everything else will be "tweaking", TCP timeouts, whatever. But "success!!!" from the p2p probe means p2p ports are good, move on!
If everything stops, screw it! reset the router, tweak the timeouts, or something, and try again., but leave the IPF/NAT rules alone! Neo, you are the one! Report back whatever you learn!
Colin, Hi. My mac is officially dead, so I'm just gonna wing it here. First, forget about SIP, we don't need to mess with it, and the 205 can do it just fine.
iChatAV uses quite a few ports..
5060 (UDP)
5190 (TCP) file sharing
16384-16403 (UDP) video conferencing
These rules should do it (replace with your own computer's private IP)..
firewall:
create ipf rule entry ruleid 5060 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq udp destport eq num 5060 seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 5190 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq tcp destport eq num 5190 seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 16384 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq udp destport range 16384 16403 seclevel high medium low
NAT:
create nat rule entry ruleid 5060 rdr prot udp lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.3 lcladdrto 192.168.1.3 destportfrom num 5060 destportto num 5060
create nat rule entry ruleid 5190 rdr prot tcp lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.3 lcladdrto 192.168.1.3 destportfrom num 5190 destportto num 5190
create nat rule entry ruleid 16384 rdr prot udp lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.3 lcladdrto 192.168.1.3 destportfrom num 16384 destportto num 16403
If you want to run the OS X firewall, you'll need to create similar rules there too, though you don't need it with a properly stealthed 205. Try these rules out, and PLEASE let me know how it goes, either way. If it fails, I have more up my sleeve!
One thing to note, UDP isn't reliable across the ocean, it's just not. If you're iChatting Trans-Atlantic, pick times when the internet is quiet!
Well, Harry, if the probe can't connect, no one can. There has to be a blockage somewhere, probably a firewall. Run through the webserver troubleshooter on the troubleshooter page, it's a good generic fault trace, paying particular attention to hidden firewalling; BIOS, Gateways, WAP's, etc, etc. As well as a firewall proper, XP (and 2000, etc) has a rudimentary IP packet filter, which I've also discovered mysteriously enabled.
Disable KAD network, for now.
for now..
;o)
ps.. yeah aus, start with that!
pps.. aus, If I were you (which, as ever, means: if YOU were ME!), I'd leave the 205 in its box, and configure the Linksys to use BT Broadband.
If, and only if that fails, then consider using the 205 as your DSL modem, and config the Linksys to pure router mode if you wish to use it's switch/wireless capabilities.
;o)
'configure the Linksys to use BT Broadband'
does this mean get a RJ-11 - RJ-45 connector and see what happens?
how can u open say ports 2300 to ports 2400 and keep them open i know how to open a port but not multiple ports ive had a look at how to do it but i dont understand can u help me plz?
when i add a nat rule it doesnt let me select local ports from and local ports to what is going wrong here?
I really hope you can help me :( i bought my router and got BT BB for gaming on my pc with which i use my ethernet card. The router i think is my problem for my rubbish ping as i have a brand new p4 3.5 coupled with 512 DDR 400mhz RAM. The problem i aslo face is if im using mIRC or msn and trying to find or connect to gaming servers it just pings out... Its reallly poor and annoying what i think i need is a decent configuration for the router to comply with my Ethernet but i just dont know where to start im new to all this and i pray you can help me as i dont think i can take much more of it.... plse help!
Hello again :) Please could somebody tell me why i can't connect to Xlink Kai (Network unreachable!) through a second ethernet NIC. Kai says to port forward 30000 udp. I've tried editing the single custom port forwarding rule, maybe i've done it wrong ? Many thanks jahtruth.co.uk peace
nah, aus, no adaptors required.
I presumed when they said (on the product page at the Linksys website) "... Finally, the Router function ties it all together and lets your whole network share a high-speed cable or DSL Internet connection." that it could act as a broadband modem, like the 205 can, but on further investigation (the product spec PDF), it seems it can do "everything except that".
In case anyone else has a router/modem that they want to get working with BT Broadband, here are the details anyway..
DNS = auto
VPI = 0 (zero)
VCI = 38
Authentication = CHAP
Modulation = G.DMT
Encapsulation = VC MUX
Encapsulation Protocol = PPPoA
But it looks like you'll need the 205 after all, aus. Plug the phone line into the 205, then the 205 into the router port of the linksys, then everything else into that. The linksys can be 192.168.1.3, or something.
What you'll need to do is decide where you firewall and NAT are going to be. It's probably best to run the firewall on the 205, but the NAT on the linksys, using the Linksys as your default gateway/dns server, etc. I don't know how tricky it is to get the 205 to act only as a router, we'll see!
brian, just run through the recipes page. See the generic recipes section at the end (well, second from the end since I added the cool checklist), it shows you how to open a range of ports that stay open.
Use telnet, it's easier. Localports; if you are using a range of port, it's not possible to remap to different local ports, that's only for, say, a webserver running on port 8080 that needs to be externally connectable on port 80. Forget that part of the command, the ports will map straight across without any extra help.
Rick, you just need to run through the pages here, it doesn't take too long, certainly no where near as writing them! If you've already done that, run through the checklist at the bottom of the troubleshooter page.
If gaming is important to you, you might want to tweak the UDP timeouts right down..
modify nat global udptimeout 15If you're sticking somewhere, tell us exactly where, and we'll see what we can do. By the way, I just did a UDP scan on your box, ports 29990 - 30010, and they're ALL open!
for now..
;o)
ps.. Adrian, how does it look in the web interface? Is UDP specified in the firewall rule, for instance? (don't bother specifying protocols in the NAT rules)
Thanks cor for the advice! This web site is a blessing and I'm certain it will come in useful when config'g my 205, esp. the cmds to keep session open etc. Muchas Thanks! I'll let you know how it goes. Cheers.
Hi,
I wish to run a NWN Server on my machine, I have a BT ADSL 205 Voyager Router, I can connect to the server through My LAN, but others on the internet can not direct connect or see the server Listed under Gamespy. Here is a Link to NWN Server help about port forwarding:- http://nwn.bioware.com/forums/viewtopic.html?topic=387975&forum=56
I have tried the Above and to my dismay nothign seems to work, upon trying the Corz p2p Port Probe I get a message:- Connection Refused. If I Stealth the Router the Probe tells me that it timed out(Probably Stealthed)
I am currently using Windows XP with SP2 and all relevant updates. I have Windows Firewall Disabled as I use Zonealarm for this purpose, during this testing Zone Alarm is also Off. Hope someone can help :-(
Just to say thanks. What a pleasant website. Nice to read, easy on the eye and sufficient detail.
Nigh on perfect. Firefox compliant too.
Cheers
Hi; Great site!
I am writting you this because I am so desperate! I have an internet connexion in my flat that belongs to the building. Each flat has a self assigned static IP adress, subnet mask, router adress and dns server address that blocks p2p networking and sending email via email software clients using smtp server. When I try to connect to the internet using dhcp, I gives me a dynamic ip that is not able to connect to the internet. But waht is really strange is that every 24 hours it finaly getq this ip : 192.168.0.1 which enables internet and p2p networking!!! But for 24hours only and then is goes over and over. There must be a trick out there to change this to have a proper p2p friendly and stable connexion. But I don't know how to manage this. Have any idea?
I would be very thakfull if you get even a little idea of workaround, and also send you a bottle of great red wine from France if you achieve this.
Best regards,
Damien
Hi Cor,
I am running the Voyager with the installed firmware V1.1. Just wondering if there is a firmware upgrade yet for the Voyager? Today I downloaded a .bin file TEI image firmware update from www.voyager.bt.com that claims itit will update to V1.6. Is this a Beta version or a stable release do you know? I know the risks of flashing firmware and all that jazz, so what do you think? wait a bit for you guys to sort out the best firmware to use?
hi
great site, helped me no end to get p2p working. Speaking to the muppets at bt an getting no help wotsoever i finaly found this place.
Having trouble getting ports open for msn messengers file transfer service. ive entered the ports necessary into NAT and IP filter as described in the msn help file
It states open as many ports as u can between 6891 and 6900 so ive entered them as from port 6891 to dest port 6900
im assuming i must have done something wrong somewhere as your port probe reads these ports as: "connection refused" and i still have extremly slow transfer rates.
if anyone had any ideas as to the correct NAT and IP FILTER rules to enter into telnet then i would apreciate the help.
cheers keep up the good work
*Rich*
(or
I am real new to all this router stuff having just got mine from BT (Voyager 205). I have it plugged directly into my d-link ethernet switch and immediately started to get problems (or my son did anyway) with listing and refreshing all the internet servers in games lihe MOH Spearhead - found a fix for this which involved typing commands into a CommandPrompt window and it then worked.
Trouble is that i didn't back up the router's standard config (can you send copy to me in case please?).
Anyway, interested in mucking around and experimenting with some of the security stuff on your site and also need to map incoming tcp port and udp port for WinMX.
However, when i type the IP address (URL) into the IE address bar it finds the voyager page ok but cannot access 'troubleshooting' or 'advanced' menus - just starts flashing the IE window as if refreshing every couple of secs and displays the opening 'quick start' page - do i need to plug the usb cable in or something?
Regards
P :-)
Thanks John, aus, others, I like to make out like I'm indifferent to compliments and shit, but really I luv 'em!
connor, I've been using v1.6 (as available from my archive - see useful links section) and it works beautifully. Even BT Communicator works now. As with all things computerised, ymmv. Try the 1.6 update, if it doesn't work out, you can always go back to the old one. If you've made any csutomisations yet, remember to backup your current settings before you upgrade.
*Rich*, load this page with ALL comments, a quick type-to-find should get you what we know so far. Feel free to add to it, reports of success would be good!
Phil, it just sounds like you haven't created rules for these things yet. First you need to run through the troubleshooter page, where I deal with the problems you are having getting to the "advanced" pages. do get back here if it doesn't work out, though.
Don't worry about "losing" the default config, you can get that back by simply inserting something sharp into the reset at the back of the router.
Mat no way I'm reading that whole topic! it'll be like all the others anyway. Just make the router rules! Check the recipes page and create rules from the generic template, one firewall and one NAT rule for each port, or range of ports.
Create them in a text file and KEEP this file! Enter them into the router and test test test. If it still doesn't work, go slowly through the troubleshooter page, especially the checklist at the foot. Check again for firewalls.
damien, most interesting problem! And a nice incentive, too! Best wine I ever tasted was a French Red! Good call!
okay, there are a number of avenues to explore here. I'd really like more information about the setup of the flats, the exact hardware/software we're dealing with, who has admin access to the "master" router, etc, etc.
The ideal solution is "make friends with the LAN admin". really. explain how you need a fixed IP, and that you need ports opened for (insert whatever). This is the best long-term strategy because if you do somehow manage to circumvent these restrictions, someone may eventually notice, and that would be bad.
The first thing you may want to try is setting a static IP for your machine, 192.168.0.1 sounds like a good choice. Check the static IP page. The DHCP server (whatever it is) may simply refuse to talk to you, but it may also try and accomodate you. Try this first. I have to say, 192.168.0.1 isn't usually available to a DHCP pool, usually that's the router's address!
If this doesn't work (likely), there are other, less legitimate, things you could try. But really, I'd take a bottle of wine to the admin's office first!
for now..
;o)
help im trying to sort this router for winmx maybe im doing something wrong but its not working for me
THANKS! My broadband finally works \o/
how do you use telnet just type what youve typed in a telnet session?
how do you delete a rule that you created on a telnet session?
fantastic writeup!
Far more helpful than the moronic BT "technicians" I've had to speak to for the last couple of days.
Very useful site, thank you. Just one question. I am trying to view my wecam (live feed) but I am not sure how to configure the 205 to let me through to the PC, the webcam is just on a usb connection. Can you help.
Friday at last!
richard collins, dunno dude. did you enter the rules correctly? work through the checklist at the foot of the troubleshooter page, let us know how far you get.
Red, w00h00! love to hear that!
brian, correct! you just type, and it goes straight into the router's brain. deleting you can either do in the telnet session, the command is on this page; essentially you replace "modify" or "create" or whatever you did with "delete", and skip any parameters, so
create ipf rule entry ruleid 6881 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq tcp destport range 6881 6889 seclevel high medium lowcan be deleted with..
delete ipf rule entry ruleid 6881or you can click the wee dustbin next to any of the rules in the web interface (don't forget to check out the page selectors above these comments, very handy, bookmark your favourites!)
digi, you are soooo right man! But how do I bill them for all this, that's the question!
Dave Moore, the router has nothing to do with the webcam, you don't need to go "through" it at all, unless you or the cam is located somewhere on the internet, of course. is it? more details please!
for now..
;o)
When I try to create a NAT or IPF rule it says error:invalid command. I'm sure i'm entering it in correctly.
I'm sure you're not!
;o)
Hi,
I spent a day stepped through your instructions many times
but can't get it to work.
I have apache and privoxy running on linux and i am using dynamic dns.
All i want to do is have my web server acccesible on the internet.
I turn off dhcp on the server and the modem. i set my server address to 192.168.1.3 the proxy server is working. here are the Nat rules:
808 ALL Virtual Server TCP 192.168.1.3 192.168.1.3
6881 ALL Virtual Server TCP 192.168.1.3 192.168.1.3
100000 ALL NAPT ANY 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255
when i type the url i have set up with the dynamic dns sevice
in a browser with the proxy enabled i get this bt voyager page
http://192.168.1.1/hag/pages/home.htm
my webserver is working because it brings up my site with
localhost. my iptables are configured to accept requests on port
80.
I am of course using the bt voyager 205.
my setup is identical to an other server that uses an ntl cable
modem and everything works.
i would very much appreciate if you could point out what i am doing wrong. i know very little about networking or modems.
thanks,
paul
You really are going through a proxy (double-check that with a whatsmyip? tool, like my port probe) and getting your router's admin pages? Sounds like you have WAN access enabled for the management control, check here.
However, when I attempted to connect to the IP that you used to post here, I got stealth, is it still the same IP (9.30pm now) ? Stick with static IP's, by the way, for your internal LAN.
Do you have more machines on your LAN? if so, can you access the server from the other machines? Sounds like the box has a firewall running, perhaps iptables is misconfigured, gawd knows that's easy to do. Maybe a GUI tool like Guardog, or something like that, or if you've been using that, get the conf into a text editor and make sure everything's okay.
If the router is setup per checklist, there's gotta be a firewall somewhere else. What's the proxy server for? You really don't want to go live with a proxy server running! The only proxy you need is an *external* proxy, for testing. Or did I misunderstand something about your setup?
more details is good, feel free to mail me your exported router config, and definitely run through the webserver troubleshooter if you haven't already.
;o)
thanks cor,
i will check the WAN access though i thought it was disabled.
sorry you couldn't connect to the ip. i switched the machine off at about 7pm and went to the pub. i am just trying to setup
the system at the moment. when i get it working i need to buy some cable before i set it up permanently.
the proxy 'privoxy' came with the linux installation and i used it
on my home system (which uses an ntl cable modem) because it helped my windows laptop to access the web through the same modem.
i will have another go without the proxy but i only enabled it
because it said to do so in your trouble shooting check list.
i generated the nat configuration report from the admin selector
function but didn't see how to get the ipf report above.
please post any useful report generating command and tell me how
to export my router config.
sorry for being such a sad amateur. i'll be back on the machine
having another go tommorrow.
cheery oh,
paul
Hi Cor,
Back in the saddle at the puter after a short break ....just wondering if we can discuss a better solution to getting my Lan/Wan sorted? ISSUE-(again) Currently BT205 used as ethernet modem to feed into the WAN port of a Wireless/4 Port ADSL Router subnet 192.168.1.x which feeds the puters LAN1-LAN4 plus wireless to Laptop and PDAs using subnet 192.168.2.x. So the Router 2 is set up and the default network gateway for the puters and it gets it IP for the Net from BT205. It all works, but perhaps not ideal. UPNP for MSN Messenger does not seem to be able to open up the ports for audio, etc. Going to install a VoIP Digital Voice Converter this week as well in between the modem and puter so for an RJ11 phone connection. I think there will be some port problems to sort. Trying to configure is tricky, and the BT205w pages have me even more confused.
You have all the info, and were working on the tech, but with all your popularity, it might be lost in the fog.
With appreciation....
I know where the button is....
hi all
great site much help, can you tell me where i can get the software for the modem? when i plug it into my computer via usb it says that it doesnt recognize it???help please! thanks
hey ive read through and through your helpfull tutorial and thans alot it has helped an insane amount i couldnt have sorted anything out without but. well my intial prob was i couldnt start a server on halo. sooo i forward all the ports, and they must be right ive had many gamers confirm this, and people can join my server, but it doesnt show up in the server list, but this is weird because it turns up in some peoples lists but the majority it doesnt turn up. also next to my server there is flag which look like the portugal flag to my server although im from the uk any ideas why? if you have any suggestins please email me. Thanks so much for all the help your tutorial is soo helpfull for these dam bt modems but if you can help further i would apreciate it loads.
nonononono paul .. there's nothing about proxies on the checklist! the only place I mention them is in the webserver troubleshooter..
You see, if you try and test your own dynamic hostname directly, eg. site.ath.cx, you would naturally get your router admin page (because site.ath.cx resolves to the IP of your gateway, which is also 192.168.1.1, machines inside the LAN will take the direct route, ie. 192.168.1.3 > 192.168.1.1), so we have to test from outside, like maybe from Sweden, or the USA or something. So we use a web browser copnfigured with a proxy server, and the browsing is all going via the proxy.
You don't need a proxy server running on your own machine, but kudos if you actually managed that! they can be a bugger to setup!
col, ditch the USB, use ethernet.
James Otis, what we'll probably need to do is configure the 205 to act as a simple pass-through (bridge) for every port, no firewall, nothing, and then let router 2 do all the hard work, NAT, gateway, etc.
Trouble is, there are a number of ways this can be done, and without a router 2 myself, I'm not certain which is the best. It might be an idea if we do this by email, and then when we figure out the best method, I can add it to the recipe's page (it would be useful for others I think).
If you could mail me all the details so far (so I've got them all in one place) along with your exported router config file, I'll reply with "suggestion one", and you can get back to me with a yay or nay, if you know what I mean.
Rasta, without more details it's tricky to diagnose. Of course you've gone through the checklist at the foot of the troubleshooter page, yeah?
If you have, next thing I would suggest is adding rules for both tcp and udp ports, many games say they use one type, but in fact use both. if you have a rule 1024 for tcp, make a 1026 for udp, or something like that.
The Portugal flag is a weirdo, you're surely not going through some sort of proxy server are you? Chewck your firewall log (use page selectors above these comments) on the router just after connecting the server, see if any communications from the server's IP are being blocked, and if they are, make rules for them!
for now..
;o)
Hello all :) If you press caps shift + back space/arrows in Putty you can move the cursor. Has anybody configured their 205 to play XBox on X-Link Kai yet? I've tried everything and have become an amateur networker in the process! NETWORK UNREACHABLE ! But i can see/chat with other users and X-Link keeps dropping the link to the orbital servers (a timeout problem?) I don't mean to bug but i think if i can sort it it will be sorted here..many thanks chaps.
Here are my rules:
create nat rule entry ruleid 30000 rdr prot num 6 lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.3 lcladdrto 192.168.1.3 destportfrom num 30000 destportto num 30000
create ipf rule entry ruleid 30000 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq udp destport eq num 30000 seclevel medium
Kai link port: 30000 udp
Firstly, thanks for a great site, I have set up everything required with no problems, until SHOUTCAST. I cannot for the life of me work out how I am going wrong, it needs port 8000 to broadcast and port 8001 to listen on. Each time I check the ports it says they're stealthed. I used the exact same rule as the bit torrent rule (which works perfectly) also soulseek which has no problems.
Weirdly enough, in Linux it says the ports are open, in XP however it says they're stealthed. I have no winblowze vile firewall running or any services which could block anything. It appears to be something else.
Must say I had less bother when on NThelL running a floppywall than I am having now with a supposedly easy-to-configure piece of crap.
Anyone who has successfully set up shoutcast with this horrible router please tell me HOW?
ahhh... prot num 6 = tcp
Adrian, try instead..
create ipf rule entry ruleid 30000 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq udp destport eq num 30000 seclevel high medium low
create nat rule entry ruleid 30000 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.3 lcladdrto 192.168.1.3 destportfrom num 30000 destportto num 30000
and you should be good to go. The ipf rule is identical to yours. The NAT rule is not. note firstly, no tcp, nor udp parameter is specified. You could add them, but there's no need.
I usually omit tcp/udp parameters altogether from NAT rules, instead creating individual ipf rules to cover whichever protocol I need. Often it's both, so that would be two firewall rules (one tcp, one udp) and one NAT rule (covers both). The azureus rule on the recipes page is a perfect example.
I notice you are using only "seclevel medium". is this intended?
pretty livid , show us the exact rules you are using.
;o)
New Router, New Problems.
Ok BT sent me this wonderful new router and everything is fine and dandy until I try to bring my FTP online. I use NO-IP DUC to obtain the IP that I use, Flash FXP to connect to the server and Bulletproof to provide the server.
Try as I might I can not for the life of me connect to my server all that I get is a 530 error when logging in then nothing ? The server is of course running on port 21. Using Shields Up all my ports report back as stealthed/blocked and this is where I think my problems start.
I am a total novice when it comes to routers (My old USB modem worked fine)any help in a very simple manner would be helpful. Please.
As for the rest of the advice on here bloody good job, love the secret selector stuff. Why can't BT provide this kinda thing straight from the box.
Oh its connected via Ethernet :)
I managed to unstealth myself eventually, got listed in the shoutcast yellow pages, but can only stream via localhost to myself.
So..the shoutcast server can see me eg:
03/14/05@16:21:29 dest: 205.188.234.162 starting stream (UID: 0)L: 1{A: SHOUTcast Directory Tester}(P: 0)
03/14/05@16:21:40 dest: 205.188.234.162 connection closed (0 seconds) (UID: 0)L: 0{Bytes: 204800}(P: 0)
03/14/05@16:21:43 yp_add yp.shoutcast.com added me successfully
03/14/05@16:24:44 yp_tch yp.shoutcast.com touched!
When anyone attempts to connect remotely it says 'connection refused' which is odd as I am up there on the shoutcast directory.
Here is a nice mess of a config file:
create nat rule entry ruleid 30000 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.3 lcladdrto 192.168.1.3 destportfrom num 30000 destportto num 30000
create nat rule entry ruleid 56 rdr prot num 6 lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.3 lcladdrto 192.168.1.3 destportfrom num 8000 destportto num 8000 lclport num 8000
create nat rule entry ruleid 57 rdr prot num 6 lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.3 lcladdrto 192.168.1.3 destportfrom num 8001 destportto num 8001 lclport num 8001
create nat rule entry ruleid 58 rdr prot num 17 lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.3 lcladdrto 192.168.1.3 destportfrom num 8002 destportto num 8002 lclport num 8002
create nat rule entry ruleid 59 rdr prot num 17 lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.3 lcladdrto 192.168.1.3 destportfrom num 8003 destportto num 8003 lclport num 8003
(didn't know if it would help to add udp as well as tcp)
Am now more baffled cos all the other things I had in there have vanished and the router reset the password. I think I might be best ignored until I grow some braincells and work out what on earth is going on. That or I will have to empty this routers rubbish and put my floppywall back on again.
HI Cor,
I am not sure I understand. Are you saying that I should be able to access the server from outside this LAN and whether I am
browsing trough a proxy or not is unimportant?. Ihave now disable the proxy.
my url is headcc.ath.cx. please try it.
my NAT rules currently are:
808 ALL Virtual Server TCP 192.168.1.3 192.168.1.3
100000 ALL NAPT ANY 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255
thanks,
paul
I have a wireless router (airlink). All internet connection around my house work fine, but I'd like to setup some security for my Wireless Network. Now, I can't access my router anymore. Assinging static IP or DHCP obtain won't help.
ok i went home and tried it and it works.
is there any way of letting users inside
my lan access the website via the url.
i know i could just point them to the localhost
but it make cause confusion as they are non techical.
thanks,
paul.
HI Cor,
I am not sure I understand. Are you saying that I should be able to access the server from outside this LAN and whether I am
browsing trough a proxy or not is unimportant?. Ihave now disable the proxy.
my url is headcc.ath.cx. please try it.
my NAT rules currently are:
808 ALL Virtual Server TCP 192.168.1.3 192.168.1.3
100000 ALL NAPT ANY 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255
thanks,
paul
Hi Cor,
Please help. I've been through the whole site, followed your guidelines and stepped through the checklist. Everything works perfectly except for two things; when the router is connected to the internet the ethernet light (and LAN connection in taskbar) is constantly flashing even when I'm not accessing the net; and the routers internet connection keeps disconnecting (anywhere from 5 minutes to 5 hours) and won't reconnect until I've rebooted the router. BTW, I have a simple setup of one PC connected via ethernet.
Thanks in advance,
Scot
great site, helped me a lot, thanks!
ok i went home and tried it and it works.
is there any way of letting users inside
my lan access the website via the url.
i know i could just point them to the localhost
but it make cause confusion as they are non techical.
thanks,
paul.
I appear to be magically fixed now. Not sure how or why, but this site definitely was a great help, thanks!
Hi,
I've tried to get these ipf and nat rules correct, but to no avail today!
After stealthing my router, I'm using:
create ipf rule entry ruleid 1024 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq tcp destport eq num 23 seclevel high medium low
create nat rule entry ruleid 1024 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.42 lcladdrto 192.168.1.42 destportfrom num 23 destportto num 23
as my two rules.
I have a SUN box on my LAN with static IP address as 192.168.1.42 and I want to ssh to it from outside. I want to access the box when I'm at work you see and my work allows port 23 out from their intranet but not ssh on it!
Hence I've configured ssh to to be accepted on port 23 (instead of ssh standard port 22) on my SUN box.
I can use ssh (using port 23) from any PC on my LAN to access this SUN box but I cant access the SUN box from outside at all. Using your port scan utility I get 'stealthed'.
I've removed all the rules (as you suggest) apart from the 2 stealth ones and the new ipf one above.
Dont know what else to try really!! Please help! Please email for extra (sensitive) info. Thanks.
Russ.
Hi - great site and i now know a lot more about this router stuff than i used to - sadly, not yet enough though. Followed all direction to try and map the ports for WinMX - was getting nothing originally but now, according to your portprobe, 6699 opens ok but still can't download anything as 6257 "timed out probably stealthed" - the port probe on that gmx site confirmed that it was stealthed too. I've checked and rechecked, switched off all firewalls, switched off ALL firewalls and just cannot get it to work - oh, and i switched off all firewalls and went through checklist line by line to no avail :-)) - HELP!!
Pod51, good timing! I setup my own FTP server last night. works great, active (aka PORT, very confusing!) and passive, no probs, so it's doable, here's how..
First, although FTP (usually) uses port 21 for the transaction, it also uses another port, for the data, usually port 20, and although not technically necessary, when port 20 is opened, things certainly run smoother. For a regular FTP server, running on a machine at IP address 192.168.1.3, this would work fine..
create ipf rule entry ruleid 2121 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq tcp destport range 20 21 seclevel high medium low
create nat rule entry ruleid 2121 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.3 lcladdrto 192.168.1.3 destportfrom num 20 destportto num 21
As you can see, I've used a range of port, albeit a very small range (only two ports). Note that I don't use ruleid 21 (as one would expect) because if you ever reboot the router, it will be deleted automatically! Same story for ruleid 80, almost like BT didn't want us running servers at home!
If you want to accept "passive" connexions (a very good idea), you will need to define a range of ports in your server software. In bulletproof, this is in the global preferences, folks running ProFTPd can simply add a line to their <global> section..
PassivePorts 50000 50100Now the server will instruct the client to initiate passive connexions on any port from 50000 - 50100. All we need to do now is open this same range in the router...
create ipf rule entry ruleid 50000 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq tcp destport range 50000 50100 seclevel high medium low
create nat rule entry ruleid 50000 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.3 lcladdrto 192.168.1.100 destportfrom num 50000 destportto num 50100
And Bob's yer uncle! The server will happily accept active OR passive connexions. I plan to add an FTP server section to the recipes, as you can probably tell, I'm sketching the copy right here! Let us know how it goes.
pretty livid, great news! by the way, did you realise that four of your NAT rules could be reduced into ONE RULE! make a range, less mess. Also, there's no need to specify protocols in NAT rules, only the ipf rules. See the note in my last comment about this.
You know, often, the reason that things don't work properly is that folk simply don't wait long enough. I've often noticed that rules can take a minute or two to kick in. By the time the rule kicks in, the impatient types have changed them, and then it really doesn't work!
paul cunningham, my first question is, what router do you have? those pseudo-rules aren't for a viking-based router. I don't mind helping out with any old router (I was doing (unpaid) remote admin on a D-Link last night), but it would be good to know, more useful.
The proxy thing; lots of folk use proxies, mainly to protect their identity while surfing, the theory being that the website won't know your real IP, but these folks forget that it's the ISP who keeps all the records, and no proxy is fooling them! But surfing VIA a proxy is very useful for lots of things, testing your home webserver being one of them.
In short, the proxy server is doing the browsing, from Sweden, or wherever, we are simply telling it which pages to fetch and relay back to us, so YES, you can test from OUTSIDE your LAN, by using a proxy. On the "how cool is that?" scale, it's about a nine.
The only alternative for self-testing, apart from the piecemeal tests one can perform with the various online SEO tools, is to take over someone's remote desktop and surf back into your own IP from there. I have control of a few desktops "out there" which I sometimes use for testing, like last night, for my FTP server. But with a good proxy, you don't need any of that.
Your dynamic domain is dead, by the way. try again! It looks like you simply need to add a firewall rule to whatever router that is. The virtual server (NAT) rule looks okay.
For the LAN users, why not create nice virtual names that they can all remember, see here for details.
scot, the flashing ethernet light is normal (you need to read the pages more slowly, dude!) and it's always in use, whether you are downloading or not; a LAN send lots of inter-puter messages, broadcasts, samba elections, etc, etc, I call this "background noise". The solution is to place the router out of sight.
As to the reconnexion, have you applied the ppp timeout tweaks (above)? If so, are there any other symptoms, like when it disconnects, are all the lights on (VoiP errors; upgrade firmware), or anything else?
Open a telnet session with the router, and leave it open. The next time it disconnects, report back here with the error you got.
Russ, (btw, when you refresh your browser, doesn't it warn you that you are about to POST the comment again? all my browsers do. don't worry about it though, I just delete 'em) Firstly, your rules are good. There must be something else blocking things.
Did you run through the checklist? Particularly, ensure security is enabled on the router (at any level, the lights for the rules will be green in the web interface, not red) and there are no other firewalls working against us. The firewall on the SUN box might be allowing free LAN traffic but denying outside traffic, for instance.
Phil, importantly, port 6257 is a UDP port (at least for WinMX), and the port probe is testing for TCP connexions only. If 6699(tcp) is open, WinMX should be good to go. Note, probing UDP ports isn't reliable, because UDP itself isn't reliable, particulalry over a few hops, ie. Trans-Atlantic. UDP isn't even necessary for WinMX, just run the app and try and download some stuff, it should work!
anonymous, take your time and ask again, including as much information as you can. also, it would be better if you used a nickname of some sort, just make it up! I'm gonna remove the ability to post as "anonymous", it's too confusing!
everyone, don't forget to SAVE your config after you get it working. you don't want to go through all this again!
Thanks for the flowers folks, appreciated, in a scroll-off-the-page sorta way.
for now..
;o)
ps.. Adrian, thanks for the tip dude! I almost missed it!
Cor
I`m back up and running
l8trz
Ian
Cheers Cor,
Doesn't work for me, I entered the rules (using telnet?) as per your advice and this is what I get :-
Bulletproof
15/03/2005 21:15:41 - FTP Server On-line : IP(s) 192.168.1.5, on port 21
Edited your rules from 192.168.1.3 to 192.168.1.5.
Flashfxp
WinSock 2.0 -- OpenSSL 0.9.7d 17 Mar 2004
Connecting to b-f-t-p.no-ip.com - IP=81.152.118.227 PORT=21
Connected to b-f-t-p.no-ip.com
220 FTP Server (Version 1.0) ready.
USER ********
331 User name okay, need password.
PASS (hidden)
530 Not logged in.
Connection failed
Delaying for 120 seconds before reconnect attempt #1
No-Ip Duc
Updating to IP : Nat/Router/Proxy 81.152.118.227
b-f-t-p/no-ip.com
Now I am stuck
I have created a test account for the purpose of this problem and you can try it using Take A Look feel free to try it.
Cheers for reading this far and look forward to any further help you can offer.
Really need an edit button here :)
I have changed the No-Ip program to bypass the automatic detection settings so it now connects to 192.168.1.5 so give it a try. I have managed to connect using both an Anonymous Http Browser Proxy (OPERA) and via FlashFxp. Just need someone outside the loop to give it a try.
i have used this router to connect to emule. the thing is emule 'seems' to be working ok except the download is tediously slow. i am connected high-id. the problem is, it seems all the other protocol seems dead while emulw is running. i cant make it work whatever i try. is voyager205 not suitable for use with emule? i need help.....
Yeah I had applied the ppp timeout tweaks, I left telnet open and it told me;
Wed Mar 16 04:49:26 2005 : WARNING : PPP Interface Down : Interface - ppp-0
Wed Mar 16 04:49:26 2005 : MAJOR ALARM : Failed To Get IP Address : Interface - ppp-0
Wed Mar 16 04:49:32 2005 : WARNING : ATM VC Congested : Interface - aal5-0, PortId=7, Vpi=0, Vci=38
When I have two connexions in my sys tray, a LAN connexion and an Internet Gateway, the LAN connexion stays lit constantly, but if the Internet Gatway (Routers ppp connexion) is closed then the Lan connexion stays quite unless I access the LAN.
Sorry if its a bit long-winded, just trying to give you as much info as poss.
Thanks, Scot
Forgot to say, the telnet messages above just repeat constantly until I reboot the router.
I can't get the Voyager 205 to work with my PC over the Ethernet.
Have used the router via USB on a laptop to see if it was a problem with the box itself but it works fine.
The Router is in the living room and I have a Solid UTP cable up to the attic - which works great as a LAN. Any ideas?? thanks
gr8 news Ian, you got some text to catch up on! It's been hectic, but better that than no ineternet! Good to have you back, dude!
Pod51,
Go to the no-ip.com website and update your IP manually until you figure out the DUC. I recommend switching to DynDNS.org, if only so you can have your router do all this messy DNS business automatically. I simply never think about my dynamic hostnames anymore, they are always current.
The FlashFXP login looks fine, by the way, obviously the password was incorrect. What exactly (apart from the "outside dns thing") isn't working?
shkim, eMule can be slow, it depends what you're downloading. The 205 is certainly capable of fast eMule downloads, though you may want to tweak your preferences some, cap the upload speed, reduce connexions, disable KAD, etc.
Scot, I really could be doing with more info. Firstly, why do you have two LAN connexions? Do you have Internet Connection Sharing enabled, or something? The "ATM VC Congested" messages are normal, at least for BT they are. I get dozens every hour. It didn't tell us much about the PPP going down. What net apps are running when it disconnects?
Gareth, is the cable a crossover cable? You need regular CAT-5 cable; we discovered that the 205 has a cross-over built into it. Got an ethernet switch? If so, does it work plugged into that?
for now..
;o)
additional thought, Scot, you don't have the USB drivers still installed, do you? if so, get rid of them, and reboot!
;o)
I'm using a straight through cable on everything - I also want to be able to connect it to a hub at some point. But I want to get it working first.
Many thanks
Me again , bloody mud fluffing router.
Anyways Cor, I thought that was the case ref. connecting internally to my LAN, Doh !
Now No.ip DUC is connecting via 81.152.118.227 and reports that it is Updating to IP : Nat/Router/Proxy 81.152.118.227 once it has updated it reports that 81.152.118.227 is the current IP address found and in use via b-f-t-p.no-ip.com. All well and good ?
However Bulletproof FTP reports that the Server is On-line but connected via : IP(s) 192.168.1.5, on port 21
FlashFxp is attemting to connect via Connecting to b-f-t-p.no-ip.com @ IP=81.152.118.227 on PORT=21.
When flashFxp attempts to connect it reports 530 Not Logged In.
So that is where I am currently , unable to connect to my previously (Before the 205) working FTP. I am trying to connect via my machine of course, don't know if this effects things in any way.
It was all so much easier when I had me Spectrum
Cor Sod it, if you can help me try MSN contact pod51@hotmail.com always better live.
Cor i love you! Im XLink Kai on-line and i got green light for torrents...i owe you :-)
In a manly way of course ;)
I am trying the port forwarding recipes for the BT Voyager 205 router but I do not get the option of "destportfrom num 6881 destportto num 6889". All I get are Destination Port and Local Port? I have upgraded the firmware to v1.6 Any advice? Thanks!
Adrian, I know what you mean, dude! I get a lotta love here from here, right back at ye!
okay, Gareth, this is strange. The router itself can access the internet, sign-on, etc, without any computer attached, so I'd say, first connect the 205, and let it do its thing. then attach the CAT-5 to your puter and try and see if you can telnet in.
Perhaps the network needs configured on the peecee, check the static IP page and make sure everything looks kosher there, on the same subnet, etc.
Sorry pod51, I don't do MSN, but feel free to mail me your exported config file, and I can take a look at it. Others have done this and I've discovered glaring, obvious problems within seconds, your call.
You're right about the Spectrum (though I preferred my Oric-1), but then, you couldn't do just about everything we can do now, so I guess there's a trade-off. In the end, it will all be simple again, I promise. Trouble is, this may take decades.
Darren, these commands are for telnet, click any of the telnet links on these pages, and then enter the commands. tada!
for now..
;o)
k man, thanx for the help, i've been searching for days for something like this, all i wanted was for BT to work lol, i tried www.portforward.com, but there method didnt work lol, then i happened upon your site =D Its all really usefull info and n00b friendly too =D
anyway to my problem, i'm not sure if this is anything to do with the things i did to get BT to work, but i deleted all the IPF rules like you said, apart from rule 5 and 500000, and i also have my Bit Torrent Rule 6881, but since i did this, i cant connect to any of my IMs (MSN, Xfire) do you know what port MSN etc run on so i can add a rule for them?
thanx,
Ryan
hmmm sorry bout that^^^
dunno what was wrong, but i restarted and now there all working lol, must have been summat up wi my comp :S
again thanx for the great site man
no worries man, rule 5 takes care of most of the things we need to do online. UPnP takes care of many others.
sometimes it takes a minute for rules to kick in, rebooting the router is useful, too, AFTER you save the changes, of course!
;o)
Cheers Cor! It would help if I read things more thoroughly! Done the router tweaks to open port 6881, but when runnig BitComet it gives me an error message 'cannot listen to port:6881. I am still getting very slow downloads speeds too :( Any ideas?
Thanks again.
Darren, did you run through the checklist at the bottom of the troubleshooter page?
Scrub that, I probed you just now (if you are still at the same IP you used to post here) and I got success!!! so it looks like you're good to go. some torrents really are slow, particularly old ones. Try a few, you know. here's a test..
The Scene - episode one
That should really fly, they got slashdotted yesterday. let us know how you get on.
;o)
hi again man,just a question...but how fast shud that file be going?? cus when i DLed it, it only averages at speeds around 50kbps, but when downloading off of proper web servers, for example www.download.com (the site with all the shareware) i get download speeds of over 300kbps, is this normal, or is there still something up with my setup??
Well, Bael, it depends how fast you connexion is supposed to be. that torrent should pretty much max you out, gotta be 781 (i just checked) seeds. hmm. Don't always believe download speeds from websites, the file is downloading while you are chosing its location, caching often makes it appear to fly when really it came down a lot slower. No way are you getting 300kb/s downloads with a British Telecom ADSL link. no way.
Google for broadband speed test, do a few of them, and find out your true top speed, you should get that same speed on a really popular torrent. note, use of port 6881 is NOT recommended. many ISP's are blocking, capping, and filtering this port. use one of the ephemeral range, up high somewhere! See the azureus rule on the recipes page.
;o)
ok i did a speed test and it says my speed is 2927kbps , so what does this mean my average DL speed should be??
Pic:
Click Here
holy sh*t! what sort of connexion do you have?
As far as I know, BT's maximum plan is 2MB, and that's WAY faster than 2MB! Yeah 300KB/s would be possible with a link like this, even higher. I can get 240KB/s with my 2MB connexion, yours looks like a 3MB package at least! You get that speed in other tests?
I gotta know, is that British Telecom? and if so, who do you contact for this broadband package???
;o)
yeah i've got BT 2MB package, so dunno why it's so fast :S
i live more or less right next door to my exchange thing is tho, its like a 2 minute walk :P
EDIT: next door to *where* my exchange thing is^^
ok man, my router keeps just de-activating itself :S
i dont mean like switching itself off, cus the power is still on, but every so often it just stops working, and i can get on the internet, and i cant even connect to it using http://192.168.1.2/ it just says error 404, only thing i can think it could be is that its been on to long, cus i read something about im only allowed online for 15 hours a day, an i may have been on longer than that, cus i left comp on 2 dl stuff, but surely if that was the case i get some sort of message telling me i was been disconnected?? it just stops and i cant do anything to fix it, i have to restart comp to be able to connect again =/
what ya think it could be?
Hey cor
I am so upset with my download speeds.
I did the "Scene test" after you declared
240KBs and I only managed max 237KBs for
most of the download.
Where am I going wrong??
Still look every day
Best
barney
barney! Dismal! maybe you need to drill some more holes in that router!
gr8 2 c u around btw!
Bael, man, that's a weird plan you're on! Being so close to the exchange, could be a factor, I guess, it certainly is at the other extremity, so why not close up? I don't know enough about it to say for certain, though.
As for the disconnexion, this 15 hour business is very strange, exactly what plan is that??? You're not on USB, no? You definitely went through that checklist and ticked *everything*?
I gotta consider moving closer to my exchange..
;o)
Hi cor
High up in the numbers and def not
6881.
It must have been the dos attack!!!
By the way I switch of my router because
of the heat during the night
unless I am downloading and your shell script works
great first thing after rebooting.
Any chance of a script when one has to
reset the router to get rid of all the
defaults?
After 1.6 firmware flash Port 31 does not
automatically come back after reboot.
best
barney
OMFG! someone actually found the scripts!
pretty cool huh, so long as you TOUCH NOTHING!
I'll try and get around to a windows version. Or someone else might like to
Torrenteering; I suspected you were using a high port, 6881 just doesn't do it for me these days, ISP's get wise to these port numbers, but there's always another sixty five thousand others to choose from!
Yeah, I know what you mean about the heat, I can't sleep at night with that thing running, like an effin radiator it is!
And anyway, the monthly bandwidth limits come into effect in a couple of months, so you really want that thing busy 24/7, while ye still can!
and erm, port 31? who on earth needs that?
;o)
I should mention, you can run shell scripts directly on the router itself. basically just a set of commands like in all the pages here, then upload it via FTP, and run it from the telnet command line..
apply fname script.shnote, you have to upload it into the root (not /home) folder, or else specify the full location on the command line (I presume)
most folk would probably find this more challenging than just running a windows batch file, but for power-users, it's a handy, quick way to get a series of commands into the router.
remember to commit afterwards!
;o)
cor
I changed the password in notepad it opened the telnet session itself and proceeded to do its job.
I did not commit it but when I checked on the interface it had happened and is still in place.
Have tried looking at 192.168.1.1 with Flash xp but cannot see any folders just opens, I am going to try and look again.
No Linux just Windows.
Best
barney
cor
I thought the 30g limit was in place already?
barney
like the look of the site, i'm going to try sort out some problems via this site this weekend.
at the moment, BB connection seems to cut out over night during a d/l, azureus is giving me average of 3.1 kB/s, and i have major speed issues surfing while azureus is being used.
so I will try let you know if this site helps for a complete PC noob like myself ;)
note barney, when you connect with FlashFXP, do not use the
LIST -al(show hidden) command to get directories, it won't work. regularLISTis fine. note, even if you can't see any files, you can still upload scripts!The BT-Yahoo limits are officially in place, for certain plans, but afaik, technically not actually working until May/June. You can't check your current monthly usage until then, anyway, so it seems unlikely they could actually enforce any kind of policy until at least that time.
IMPORTANT: when the limits come into effect, their totals encompass both UPLOAD AND DOWNLOAD usage. So that's 15GB of TV episodes, not 30GB, if you are a regular 1:1 torenteer. bummer, huh.
I forsee a lot of folk turning to the dark side, leech-and-run. Is this the ISP's intention? to strike at the very heart of the P2P community, to destoy its sharing soul? but I digress...
welcome mohip! enjoy your stay! Don't forget the checklist at the bottom of the troubleshooter page. As Brian Tracy (supremo time management consultant guru dude) regularly says..
"Always work from a list"
;o)
Cheers Cor. Tried that torrent you gave me. 42-52Kb/s.That's fine for my 512Kb connection. It must be that, as you say, older torrents are slow. When opening up BitComent however, it still pops up with the same error message (cannot listen to port:6881)? I was wondering if you had any idea what could be causing another problem with my connection. It seems to 'drop' periodically, resulting in web pages loading with some images not appearing etc and downloads stopping mid-download. Occasionally the PC needs a reboot to sort it out when I lose the connection completely. I have only recently got broadband from BT. Could this be due to my distance from the exchange, a problem with my PC or router? I have tried another router (a Voyager 205), changed micro-filters, anti-virus/spyware checks etc. Sorry to be a burden, you've been more than helpful already.
Thanks
cor please can you help me with my dreambox connection to bt205 adsl router.
id areally appreciate it as im struggling for the last 2 months.
my email is there.
thanks mate.
ok.....problem...i odnt have all check listed :( my router is linked to my comp by usb not ethernet, didnt think it would make any difference at install xD what difference will it make?? how do i setup router to run on ethernet instead of usb without reinstalling??? if i do have 2 reinstall will all my ipf/nat rules be erased??
also i have another problem :(
I can donwload at ok-ish speeds on my p2ps and bit torrent, but when i browse the tinternet at teh same time, my DL speeds drop radically, and when i am posting in forums especially, they go down to 0kbps, is this because im connected with my usb??
thanx man,
Bael
Darren , normally, when a server can't listen on a port it's because another server is already listening on that port. do "netstat /a" (no quotes. never quotes!) in a DOS shell and see what you have listening, or otherwise using that port (without bitcomet running). I recommend Azureus for BitTorrent, by the way, for way too many reasons to list. Of course you've tested other BT clients, do they all give the same error? And have you tried another port?
Please confirm you have been ALL through the checklist. If you're using USB or running the XP firewall, or something crazy like that, we're wasting our time. It's no burden, and there's no such thing as a stupid question, but you gotta give me more details, exact errors, results of port probe, etc. leaving a torrent running so that I can probe you is also smart, though not tonight, I'm off for a kip soon, been up for days!
There are loads of good tips scattered throughout these comments, if you have a spare hour, have a read right through, hints like "open a telnet session and leave it open, watch for error messages, then paste them back here (except congestion errors!)", and "DO NOT use port 6881 for BT if you want the fastest possible downloads", or words to that effect. No one could come through all these comments and NOT learn something!
You've read all the router pages here, surely, but have you read them twice? Sometimes that can make all the difference. The reasoning is, a half hours careful reading can often save WEEKS of banging your head off the desk. There may be something obvious you've missed..
"When all else fails, read the instructions"
george, more details please. what's a dreambox, for instance, and what would you like it to/with do? It's doable, and we can help, but in here please, so others can benefit. run through the troubleshooter checklist first, of course.
If you want a private one-to-one email consultation, no problem, simply deposit £50 in my PayPal account and email me your request at my usual address
Bael, yes, I know you are connected to USB, there was no other possible explanation for this level of disfunction.
ethernet is simple, two steps..
(and all USB drivers, BT software, etc, etc, etc, and snap BT CD in half, and drop into your CD recycling bin)
You're done! remember to backup your config before you do this.
Then run through the checklist again. Feel free to save these pages to your hard drive, in case you are ever offline and need a reference.
The answer to problem two is, unsurprisingly.. "because you are connected by USB". (although you additionally seem to be suffering from choked upload capacity) Please read troubleshooter page where I explain both issues in detail.
;o)
ps.. The links to all the other router pages I wrote here and edited and slaved over and re-edited and tested and tweaked and cared for, and spent a great deal of valuable time over, are at the very top, in case you missed them.
cor please can you help me with my dreambox connection to bt205 adsl router.
id areally appreciate it as im struggling for the last 2 months.
my email is there.
thanks mate.
so all i pretty much have to do is edit my nat/ipf rules to IP 192.168.1.1 instead of 192.168.1.2??? heh thanx man ima try it now...... lol if theres no reply in atleat 30-40 mins you knwo it didnt go to plan xD
Bael, NO rules are for IP 192.168.1.1 OR 192.168.1.2 Those are the IP's of the ROUTER! (you'll find no rules on any of these pages for those addresses) The IP you use for port forwarding rules is the IP of the computer! where you want to forward the ports TO. At LEAST 192.168.1.3 and you shouldn't need to alter ANY rules!
Start at the top of the page!
george, glad to help m8. don't tell me, you refreshed the page, and then RESENT your post?
There's a dialog warns you that you are about to do this, isn't there? That's why folk get virii you see (I don't use anti-virii software, never have in all the years (about 23) I've owned and used computers), because people just click dialogs without reading 'em first!
for now..
;o)
K man, i think i got everything sorted now, =D cus i tried DLin that torrent you posted earlier again (the scene) and this is the average speed i was gettin, Click Here can you think of anything else that might make it go even faster??
You are now officially my Broadband Guru =D
Thanx for everythin man =D lol i'd still be DLin at 2-5kbps if i hadnt found your site lol,
thanx again,
Bael
that was me btw^^
i know lol i got confused, when i put in most of the rules i just copied/pasted into telnet, an all these IPs confuse my tiny n00bish brain lol =P
But i know what i meant =D
Now THAT is BitTorrent speed! good work dude! we always get there in the end.
You want fatter? Sure, there's always wee tweaks that can be done, timeouts and sfuff, but first let it all settle for a bit (remember to SAVE ("commit" in telnet)), get to know how the connexion performs, then you have a baseline to work from when you tweak. Happy torrenteering!
Ahh.. I can sleep now!
;o)
ps.. good speed tweak you can do right now.. SWITCH OFF super-seeding!
unless you are the original seeder of a file, that setting will, in fact, slow the torrent down. Azureus (the best BitTorrent client atm) cleverly applies the super-seeding algorithm only when you are the original seed, otherwise it uses regular seeding. best of both worlds, and definitely worth a look. <- confessions of an Ex-BitTornado user!
that was me, by the way
nite dudes! have a gooo weekend!
for now..
;o)
k thnx agen for all your help, I'm downloading azureus as i type =D
If theres anything i can ever help you with id be glad to =D tho i dont know much about anything lol, cept for xbox hardware modding thats as far as my knowledge goes lol xD
and azureus is finished =D
lataz man,
av a good weekend =D
Bael
ok,heres the problem,
my internet is on laptop usb 192.168.1.3 & dreambox connects on 192.168.1.4 and router lives on 192.168.1.1.
the dreambox sometimes works and sometimes does not,i dont think its anything to do with port forwarding cause i tried all that as explained here.i think the router times out.im trying to log onto tcp port 4000 to 4020.
on laptop i do not have an ethernet port i have a pcmci network card,thats why i use the usb.
i think the only way anyone can help me is if they have a dreambox and had the same problem with bt 205 adsl router.
thx for your help guys.
when you open ports do you open them on your static i.p. or on your router address at 192.168.1.1?
when i open them i hear a clicking nose on the website then my internet stops responding alltogether after i try to open ports what is wrong?
duffy, you open port on your router, and you route them to the IP of the PRIVATE COMPUTER. ie. 192.168.1.4, or whatever. The router's address is NEVER entered into ANY rules. ever.
George, okay, we're starting to get somewhere. first, the router isn't trying to log onto anything, apart from your ISP. what uses port 4000 and 4020? Is that the dreambox? is that incoming connexions? from the LAN? from the net? outgoing? to the laptop? from the laptop? WHAT? What are you trying to do, exactly?
And please tell me what a dreambox IS, a link would be fine. anything. this will be easy peezee to setup, but not without good information about the equipment you are using.
The pcmcia card, isn't that ethernet? do you have an ethernet switch? please answer all these questions. THEN I can help.
;o)
ps.. Bael, I might contact you about the XBox stuff!
Please provide some help on how to connect a Dlink wireless router (DI-624) to the Voyager 205. My Voyager 200 was replaced and now I cannot connect the wireless router. Dlink asks if its PPPoE or Dynamic IP, when I try either, it doesn't work. Under PPPoE, it asks for password, which has changed from the 200 to 205. Do I use the "Voyager205.user..." password? Under Dynamic IP, I clone the MAC and try, but it doesn't work either. Dlink rep said to disable DHCP server on 205, so I did, but it still does not work. I am convinced the 205 is blocking something to my wireless router, but unable to figure it out. Any suggestions would be a great help!
cheers cor
i tried that and it didnt work what im trying to do is play age of empires what happens is the game doesnt load and i here a clicking noise in the backround then i end aok then my internet doesnt work at all any solutions?
i opened the port to 192.168.1.4 then probed it and it says its blocked im confused
right i figured something out when i set up a dmz rule it works then stops working, when i hear this clicking noise that sounds like a pop up blocker or summit, but i got all firewalls down this is really annoying whats wrong you know?
Hello,
Has anyone configured thier 205 to 'use' Shareaza and successfully run the connection test http://jih.no-ip.org/connectiontest/ for both tcp and udp. I can get success with either tcp OR udp using a single rule id eg 6346 but not both.
I've tried rules and variations of as shown on the recipies pages without success. It's all bit over my noob head.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated - all the clever contributors to this site have my admiration for the time and effort they put in.
Thanks in advance.
briefly passing through...
Wags, the Dlink usually does the ppp part, too, but not PPPoA, afaik, so maybe try with static IP, and alter either it or the 205 to be on the same subnet, the 205 uses 192.168.1. and the Dlink 192.168.0. so they won't talk without tweaking, then stick it on the WAN side of the DLink, and try again!
duffy, is 192.168.1.4 the IP of the machine running AoE? Show us the commands you entered. Have you been through the checklist at the foot of the troubleshooter page?
Jeff, what you need is the Azureus rules (recipes page), just change the port to 6346, and the IP to that of your private machine (the one running shareazza). You need three rules, two firewall rules (one for udp, one for tcp), and one NAT rule (for both). Don't forget to UNcheck "random" in the shareazza ports setup.
;o)
i didnt have it stealthed would this matter though and what is bios firewall?
If I create two fw rules one for tcp one for udp and give them ruleid 6346, the second gets rejected cos its got the same id as the first although its for udp. This is where I've been stumbling up to now.
Jeff, go read those rules again carefully. you can't have two rules with the same ID, that's not possible! That's why, in the azureus rules, the udp rule is ONE DIGIT HIGHER. look again!
The numbers are totally arbitary, just make em up, so long as they go in the correct order, the actual ID numbers themselves are irrelevant. Generally we create rules that match the ports they apply to, because it makes for easy administration, but you can number them after the birthdays of your favourite film actors, whatever!
duffy, yup, the first stealth rule is nothing to do with firewalling, it's do to with enabling communication, another case of look again!
A BIOS firewall is just like any other firewall, except it lives in your computer's BIOS (Basic Input-Output System), which is that DOS-like screen you can get to when it boots-up, by hitting F10, or "delete", or whatever your motherboard manufacturer has set as the hot-key.
Firewalls are hiding all over the place, keep yer wits about ye!
;o)
Carefully. Ok I admit I'm a dummy. Cheers.
hey! Jeff! If I had a buck for every really obvious thing that I'd overlooked, well, there would easily be enough for a slap-up meal and Cinema for two! But Rule ID's isn't obvious, and I've made exactly that same mistake myself! We live and learn.
The important thing is we get there in the end, even if it takes a few comments back-and-forth. no worries, that's half the fun! Believe it or not, I'm truly grateful for you highlighting any possible confusions, and the opportunity to clarify things. I'll likely work some more on my body text, see if I can make things clearer still.
Or maybe I'm just really chuffed my web host reappeared!
keep em coming folks! and remember,
there's no such thing as a stupid question!
for now..
;o)
when i use i dmz rule it works for a while then doesnt why is this cor ?
I cant tell you how thankful I am to people like you.
I was ready to throw this voyager router in the bin, with no explenation for my sister who has had internet problems for over 1 year. Now she is all setup with everything she needs.
THANK YOU!
also, gotta mention this.
I never laugh at anything, but your witty wording made me chuckle at least 3 times. :)
hey! Rizla!, best compliment I've had all day! mind you, I've only been up a half hour!
duffy, you're incredibly fortunate to get a dmz working at all, my experiments have shown it to be far less efective than regular port forwarding, at least with the viking chipset. Maybe it's possible, but I always view the DMZ as a last resort, because it's safer, and perfectly feasible, to have live internet servers behind a NAT gateway.
If I were you (which, as ever means, "if you were me"), I'd stick with regular port forwarding. remember you can open a range of ports. try these rules, in a telnet session (replacing the IP with that of your computer) ..
create ipf rule entry ruleid 2234 ifname public dir in act accept destport range 2234 2400 transprot eq tcp seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 2235 ifname public dir in act accept destport range 2234 2400 transprot eq udp seclevel high medium low
create nat rule entry ruleid 2234 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.4 lcladdrto 192.168.1.4 destportfrom num 2234 destportto num 2400
create ipf rule entry ruleid 6073 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq tcp destport eq num 6073 seclevel high medium low
create nat rule entry ruleid 6073 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.4 lcladdrto 192.168.1.4 destportfrom num 6073 destportto num 6073
It's been years since I've played AoE, but it's a cool game, give me the name of your server and I'll log in and kick yer butt!1
;o)
1: jus kiddin, I was never that good at it...
I did notice 1 thing, when running webserver, it could be accessed with the .ath.cx by my friends remotely, but anyone on lan & server localhost gets the router config page.
thanks to your "Secret Admin Page Selector!", I changed the HTTP port to 61500, after reboot, accessing .ath.cx on lan yeilds a 404. :(
I have forwarded port 80 to the web host & it is obviously working since my friends can connect.
I read the info about using a proxy, not sure if that would help.
any ideas?
I downloaded the source for the page selector to change port to 61500, the other file wont download.
http://corzorg/comms/hardware/router/205_popup_pages.zip
figured out the corzorg was missing a "." :)
accessing your "public" dynamic domain from inside always gets you the 205 admin page, use a proxy! Then you are coming in from the outside, sotra "round-trip" style.
If you change the web admin port, that won't help, it's routing that's the problem (not that it really is a problem), not port numbers. My own webserver runs on port 80, my 205 admin runs on port 80, they don't conflict, because they are on different machines.
From outside, you get NATted to my webserver, from inside, you get the 205 admin. no problem!
sorry about the dot! oops! now rectified! Thanks for pointing that out. You see, "corzorg" is the domain I use to access my webserver locally (from outside, my dev server is corz.ath.cx). when I want to check the corz.org online versions, I just add a dot!
By the way, saving the regular html for the selectors works just as well as the php source, but the source is more cute, of course.
;o)
yeh, thought so, just that there are other users on the lan & I thought it would be better for them to get a blank page rather than the router config when accessing the ath.cx.
It would be difficult to get them all to use proxies.
this is a minor hitch tho, I am still very grateful.
so give the serving machine a proper name, and get them to use that instead. something shorter and cooler than your dynamic domain name. see here for more details.
alernatively, hack the .ath.cx domain directly into your local hosts file, pointing it to the serving machine instead. This works great, and is transparent to users, too.
Once the ath.cx domain is hacked in to your local hosts, browsing to the ath.cx domain will take them directly to your server box, instead of the gateway. local host names are resolved before remote ones, you see. the above link will give you more details on how to do this.
;o)
Hi Cor
Did you see my message above dated 07.03.05 8:21 pm? I'm stuck in the water on this one. Thanks for your time.
no PaulG, I didn't! You just nipped it in before one of my own replies!
I entered the two rules (replacing "(ip outside lan)" with an actual IP address), and it works great! I can't understand why yours wouldn't. hmmm.
Feel free to mail me the exact command, including IP address, and I'll take a look at it.
;o)
LOL yeah if i ever get it workin your on about aoe 1 or aoe 2 (age of kings) ? also the ip of your computer your on about static i.p. or the i.p. that is 81.???.??? etc? is it not ports 2300-2400?
p.s. keep them telnet rules on for me until i know what i.p. to put in , if im right i should :- turn off dchp mode, open the filter to high,give myself a static i.p., set thoose telnet rules to my static i.p which ive used...........then it will be happy days? Another thing one other guy i talked to about this said i was behind a proxy so what is all that about ? cheers cor ... btw you wont ever beat me at aok
create dns servaddr priority 0 212.159.11.150
Invalid command on my v1.1 voyager 205.
I tried "create dns ?" & it doesnt show anything for the PRIORITY arg
should this be "create dns servaddr 212.159.11.150 priority 0"?
Also,
You say to disable DHCP & go static, any reason for this?, I have followed most of your guide but have kept DHCP enabled, to let clients connect on default server-assigned TCP/IP settings.
1 more thing sorry,
How easy would it be to move the ip addressing from 192.168.1.* to 192.168.0.*? (its what I've been using for as long as I can remember & its now hardcoded in my brain). Is it just a simple case of changing the "LAN IP Address" & re-creating the "ADDRESS TABLE"?, or are there other elements to worry about?
thx again
Keith.
yeah duffy, you got it alright. as for the proxy. hmm, that might create problems. If you are with BT, you shouldn't be behind a proxy. Or is that just a web surfing proxy you are talking about? if so, that's alright, it won't affect anything but your own web browsing.
I never did get Age of Kings for my peecee, just the mac, and they aren't compatible, which is crazy, but there ye go! I like the original best (which, in fact, Microsoft didn't write, but simply bought). You! Chop some wood!
RiZLA, maybe you need to upgrade you firmware. that command should just work, no problems. I don't know if you can set priority with the older firmware.
As for DHCP, it's perfectly feasible to have a mix of static and dynamic IP addressing, I do. Simply create your DHCP range away from your static IP's. I use 192.168.1.50 - 192.168.1.99 for the DHCP, and assign my static IP's in the low numbers, 192.168.1.3, etc.
It's very easy to change the subnet to 192.168.0.1, I was running it like this until very recently, as my own network was 192.168.0, and as you say, it was "hardcoded" into my brain. I changed it so that my own examples would work better for you guys. see here..
http://192.168.1.1/MainPage?id=2
The only real drawback is that if the router ever gets reset, you'll need to flip one of your machines onto the 192.168.1 subnet to go alter the setting again, or rather, upload your custom cfg file.
You can also create "virtual" subnets, so you can run both as once, but that's a tad confusing for most folk. Personally, I've gotten used to having 192.168.1 addressing, and the hard-coding in my brain has been overwritten! For most things, fortunately, I use "names", as opposed to raw addresses, so the changeover was fairly painless, pretty much just editing my host files.
have fun!
;o)
Dear Cor
this is a link of the dreambox.
http://www.dream-multimedia.com.au/dm500.php
i got a freind running a server in europe on card sharing,now the ports i need to pick up from his server are tcp ports 4000 to 4020.
all this is programmed in the dream box,with a pass word.as i said sometimes it works and then stops or it will never work until i reboot the modem a couple of times.my internet is on usb on the voyager 205,and from the ethernet port on the voyager goes to the dreambox.ive uninstaled the router from the laptop to see if that was the problem and connected internet with ethernet worked no problem,then connected dreambox alone works for a bit then stops like it times out.
im not very expericenced with router configuration,but i did try some of your tips with telnet and browser. but still i had the same problems
usb is on ip 192.168.1.3 and dreambox pick up automatically ip 192.168.1.4.
is there a solution for this or should i go buy a new adsl modem router.
if possible and you can write the stuff down for me so i can input in my router with telnet id be gratefull of config a file for me to upload to the router,
sorry for disturbing like this,but i need some help please.
thanks in advance.
Thank you again
you're amazing!
hi George.
firstly, I know almost nothing about televeision, I don't watch it, though I do enjoy the odd show over the internet. so "satellite television" is even more of a mystery to me, and ides like "a freind running a server in europe on card sharing" are totally over my head, or maybe some inches to the side.
whatever, I'll stick with what I do know, and start by saying, ditch the USB! If you don't have an ethernet switch, GET ONE! (they are around ten bucks) and set up your LAN with static IP addressing.
DHCP has some benefits, sure, but with static addressing, you know where you are. It's comforting to me that my Linux server is always at 192.168.1.100 and can be accessed by typing "soho" into my ssh/telnet/browser/etc. In an environment with so many variables, like a network is, it helps to remove as many as possible.
Page 34 of the dreambox manual (section 32.1) shows its LAN dialog, I would set it up like this..
IP: 192.168.1.200
subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
Type: LAN
Nameserver: 192.168.1.1
Gateway: 192.168.1.1
DHCP: unchecked
enable network: checked
port: 80
And save. Then work through the checklist at the bottom of the troubleshooter page, it only takes a minute, but ensures everything will be AOK for our NAT rules.
Open a telnet session with your router and issue the following commands..
create ipf rule entry ruleid 4000 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq tcp destport range 4000 4020 seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 4001 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq udp destport range 4000 4020 seclevel high medium low
create nat rule entry ruleid 4000 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.200 lcladdrto 192.168.1.200 destportfrom num 4000 destportto num 4020
You may not need the middle one (UDP firewall rule), but the manual doesn't say if it uses UDP or not, it won't hurt to have it there. Don't forget to..
commitafterwards. Once your done, export your OWN config file (use the web interface) and keep it somewhere safe on your hard drive. It's just a plain text file, a script. Check the text in the "shell scripts" folder of the public archives, which explains how you can get that back into the router if it ever gets reset, or you upgrade the firmware, lightening strike, act of God, or whatever. If you haven't upgraded the firmware to v1.6 yet, do that first.
The box itself looks like an impressive device. (insert a couple of minutes Googling) Hey! It's got a decept PowerPC CPU, runs Linux, and is scriptable! neat! so one person can grab a PPV show on their own satellite dish, and stream it straight over the internet to other folk for free! It's a great idea! Could I watch these shows on a regular peecee, I wonder? I do enjoy the occasional TV show (Yeah, I'm a "FREE SAT TV on your peecee" subscriber!) so I'm a bit curious. I'll have to delve into this, methinks. There must be loads of dreambox type devices out there streaming exclusive content over the internet that I don't know about! Tell me more! How do you find his server, for instance?
Anyways, let us know how you get on. Feed me more information about this secret world of free video and I'll be happy to answer all your dumb networking questions!
for now..
;o)
ps.. shucks Riz! it's hard enough getting my head out the front door without you starting that m8!
I have learnt more about IP stuff here in two days than in two months searching google. My Router is the BT Voyager 200, most of the 205 seams to apply. Iam trying to set up a Mandrake MNF and whilst the LAN side works fine I can't get it to "see" the Router (never mind the www), all my (STATIC)IP addresses stack up now, I think...yes I'm sure, but obviously something is not right, should I perhaps use a crossover cable between them?
i done everything and still didnt work, i dunno whats goin on do you know web settings when it say automatically detect setting that got owt to do with it, any more suggestions?
cor.
thx for your quick reply.
i will let tell you a lot about free tv once ive got this dream box to workmcount on me.you will be impressed.
what i wanted to ask you is that i have a micronet sp888 broadband dsl/cable router,i tried to connect from ethrnet bt to router then to dream and ethernet pcmci card but i could not get it to work,is it possible for it to work rather than a switch as you suggested.
then you said i should telnet into the router create nat rule entry ruleid 4000 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.200 lcladdrto 192.168.1.4 destportfrom num 4000 destportto num 4020
i did but it says error and the first ip is higher than the second.
hope you are still there.
oops! George, please accept my humble apologies. Guests arrived just I was previewing, and I reviewed only briefly, and I now realised I'd altered only one of the two IP's from when I tested the rules on my own 205. I'm 192.168.1.4, not your dreambox at 192.168.1.200! kinda obvious though, eh! I guess not. sorree. it was a test! *ahem*
Anyways, I edited it so that both are 192.168.1.200, feel free to copy and paste once again!
mongoose, a regular CAT-5 cable is fine, the 205 has a hard-wired internal cross-over, as Country Bumpkin discovered. Run through the checklist (bottom of troubleshooter page), make sure everything's ticked, or at least the bits you need.
Does the Mandrake box talk nice to other machines in your LAN? can you ping it, etc? Tell me more about your LAN environment, how its physically connected, etc. In the end, I don't understand why you'd need MNF working with the 205, the 205 is a great wee firewall itself! Put the hardware to better use, Slackware, for instance.
duffy (from earlier) to clarify, the IP that goes in the NAT rules is the IP of your private computer, which will be 192.168.1.something.
I don't know what "automatically detect settings" you mean. In Age of Empires? All I remember is that you can choose tcp/ip (which is what we want) or serial (and maybe other) play. Don't worry about supplying too much information. It's all good.
k, back to the blog..
;o)
George, why not get the micronet sp888 to do it all, connect the DSL, provide a 4-port ethernet switch/hub, etc. There's not a lot of info online, but it may be able to do it, search all the comments here for "Encapsulation Protocol" for BT's ISP connexion details. You will need to enter these into the unit, or at least check if the current settings are compatible. Don't ask me how to get to it's settings, rtfm! and give it a try!
just a thought.
;o)
ps.. Interestingly, the comment where we had that error (above), was comment number 666. OoOoh!
Yes, I have run through the troubleshooter checklist, all OK.
My LAN consists of 3 PCs and 2 Laptops with an outlet wired to each room + patio, all machines talking nicely to each other, inc MNF. All can see router except MNF.
Voyager 200 firewall set High, AV, Spy, Ad stuff coming out of my ears and still I get a remote control Trojan in, so I thought a Linux Firewall/Server was what I needed.
But if my router will do the job, lets go. Whats the difference between my 200 and the 205?
when u set ur static i.p. that is the private computer i set the rules to the private comp n it still not work
i tried the port probe n it says its denied what about the i.p. address that is 81.159. .... etc?
Cor,cheers again for helping out but im not familiar in routers and all the configs to go with it,so i might buy a new adsl modem.
but i have 1 more questions,bt voyager on default settings,usb automatically in 192.168.1.3 and dreambox works only if i disable the dhcp and use ip 192.168.1.35,it works for quiet a while 2 to 3 hours,then stops.any ideas why it works on 35 not on 4.
the server in europe that i pick up the codes from are 18 servers,each server and an original paytv card on it,so thats why tcp ports 4000 to 4020. the last to ports no cards on server yet.
when i called bt foor help i told them i was using the xbox on the ethernet port they suggested to me to use dmz rule id 50 and ip 192.168.1.35,so i tried that and it worked for a bit and works without dmz to.
im sure it has nothing to do with port forwarding,its something else in the router,i think its a setting for it not to time out,any ideas again.
email me for dreambox stuff i cant really type on here.
thx again.
Cor,
Thanks for this site, u are a god in my eyes. Now that i have buttered you up can i ask a favour of you.
a. I have setup my router as per your instuctions. ( Stealthed with rule 5 and 50000 also the standard attack protection, set up firewall and nat rules for emule.Also the essential tweaks for
time to live../enable ppp keepalive../ppp sessions time-out after thirty minutes inactivity. let's change that../maximum number of IP sessions the modem can manipulate simultaneously..
default is 192, max is 512.
b. I have tried to p2p port probe with no luck. Can i ask what i sould be putting in there and do i need emule running. Silly questions i know but getting lost.
c. I also am a games player (counter strike source) i am not a server but play multiplayer on lots of servers. Do i need to setup nat rules for these.
d. When searching for servers i dont get full list as per required any thoughts on this.
e. Lastly any tips to get full speed on this router when playing multiplayer.
By the way how is scotland, i am an Oban man myself but live in that country stuck on at the end of Gods Country. No offence meant England
Hi mate.
voyager 205
Please could you provide some advise on why my sonic wall VPN will not work on this router.I manage to surf fine until I enable my VPN In which case the connection to the internet fails. Allowing me no choice but to disable the VPN and then do a IP release renew.. Ive disabled the firewall on the router but no luck here. I have no FW on my win 2k laptop.
any ideas ??
thanks a lot
Apparently this device supports multiple VPN pass-through, I don't suppose anyone knows where and how this is enabled/disabled. Or is it automatic and my remote firewall really is up the duff. I've not got much hair left at this stage... :-s
Cheers
do you know how to set up the adsl modem if your setting are for a router i tried but it didnt work
Thanx for helping me with my dl speeds i now can get good speeds on p2p networks... is resetting my router going to change any options i have changed on it??
duffy - 25.03.05 1:35 pm
do you know how to set up the adsl modem if your setting are for a router i tried but it didnt work
Hi Duffy,
I dont know if this helps but if you are using the BT help program it has a option to swap to modem
hi i need help
not it minded
need my bt voyager 205 adsl router done
i can get telnet up and i am lost
can you email me a copy and paste for telnet as i wont to use bittorrent and i need port forwarding and thay wont tell me how to do it.
as i wont to upload and share all i get is the red and amber light never the green
please help a newbie
many thanks
hi, me again
I'm at my sister's now. If she runs emule or other high band apps, although the ports are open, after a while the internet becomes non-responsive, even emule itself soon loses all connections. Sometimes cant even connect to the voyager router by either web/telnet, sometimes one, then the other or both.
I have done a reset then the basic 2 line stealth commands u suggested. Added the 2 tcp/udp ports for emule in v-server & filter.
any ideas?
Hi
I am running xpsp2 and are connecting via bt voyager 2o5, I use zone alarm security suite and I dont turn on the windoews firewall. For some reason I can not get the green smileys in azureus I have tryed forwarding the ports and it is stealthed and my pc has a static ip... this is all so annoying as i had it all workiing fine till the cat chewed me wires and i had to reset the router
Thankyou in advance for any advice you may have
ps Great site!!!!
sheesh! I can't leave this page for five minutes!
First, mongoose, I don't know anything about the 200. But if you can locate a technical manual, PDF or something, I'm sure we could figure out your rules.
duffy, sorry dude, you're gonna have to frame a sensible question if I'm to have any chance of helping. Put all the info in one post, make sure you've run through the checklist, and tell us exactly what's happening.
george, ditch the USB.
Ian Flattery doesn't work with me, but your question shows that you at least made some effort, and that does. YES you need eMule running if you want to test eMule port. YES you'll need to setup rules for the game server. For listing remote servers, try tweaking your timeouts (UDP/TCP, whatever it uses). Run through the checklist again, some of these things are mentioned there.
Michael_O and matanza, I'm still waiting for someone to get back to me about the VPN capabilities, I know it works, check through the earlier comments here. And when you get it working, let me know what you did! I've nowhere to VPN to, but I do know that P64 of the reference manual goes into greater detail. I just don't have the time just now to do theoretical work on something I can't test!
Dazzla, resetting the router (poking something sharp into that hole at the back) puts the unit back to factory defaults. If you want to save your config, save your config!. type commit in a telnet session, or hit the "save" button in the advanced pages, and then export it somewhere to your hard drive. you can upload it again to use it as your default setting after a reset.
uksparky, I have already provided exactly what you ask for. please see the links menu at the top of this very page. There are other pages!
RiZLA disable KAD, it uses way too many connexions, and overloads the router's IP session table. Also tweak for shorter tcp/udp timeouts. mine are currently..
modify nat global udptimeout 90modify nat global tcpidletimeout 3600
modify nat global tcpclosewait 45
modify nat global tcptimeout 30
which seems to work pretty well. Games would probably want smaller timing. The max IP sessions, even at the max setting (512) is still too small for multiple p2p networks running simulteneously. A similar thing happens if you have a few torrents going, and eMule (so far, so good), and then start up Piolet, or similar. Bang! no internet!
anonymous Did you run through the checklist? It sounds like a firewall thing, but do the checklist, and see if everything's kosher, come back here if it is, and you're still getting problems.
for now..
;o)
ps.. Sometime soon I'm going to start ignoring all posts that don't explicitly state "I went through the checklist and every single thing is checked!"
Happy Easter!cor
modify nat global udptimeout 90
modify nat global tcpidletimeout 3600
modify nat global tcpclosewait 45
modify nat global tcptimeout 30
What are the defaults for these please
I am intrigued?
Best
barney
hey cheers barney! right back at ye!
The defaults? erm, no idea! We'll have to ask someone who hasn't altered them!
;o)
Hello,
NETSTAT -AN:192.168.1.4:xxxx should xxxx always correspond to the port or range of ports specified in a torrent app when said app is running(and no other net-apps)? Mine usually do when BT open (say 30006 thru 30011 with a connection established on each one) but today they are all over the place(:1714,1720,1736 etc). Did a Shields up and ports were stealthed but torrent was downloading.
Thanks in advance.
The 200 looks just like a Dynalink RTA but I have not been able to establish whether its a 100 or a 220.
A bit more Googling and I've found that the firmware updates for the RTA220 follow the same format as the Voyager 200 (ie: 5.1.0.7).
Also I seem to recall coming across the name Askey when browsing the USB installation disc that came with it.
Favourite ISP helpfull as ever...zilch.
Dear Cor,
Thanks for thisIan Flattery doesn't work with me, but your question shows that you at least made some effort, and that does. YES you need eMule running if you want to test eMule port. YES you'll need to setup rules for the game server. For listing remote servers, try tweaking your timeouts (UDP/TCP, whatever it uses). Run through the checklist again, some of these things are mentioned there.
Just before i setup rules for games can i ask.
a. On a ranged nat can i use ALL instead of UDP/TCP for the type of traffic or set up for both types.
b. The port range for the game is as follows UDP 27000 to 27015 inclusive TCP 27030 to 27039 inclusive. Which have no problem setting up using the generic nat rule. But also i have been given this UDP 1200. Any ideas what that number is for.
Thanks again, Shame Flattery does not work.
Ian
Dear Cor,
Think i may have answered my own question on above, is this another nat rule i have to setup for port 1200.
Ignore my 3:30pm question about netstat - I think I've figured it out. Thanks. Happy easter all.
great stuff zone alarm is quiet as if it never did work :-p
stelth mmmmmmmm
plus all my anline games work even better
a big THANKS you are a dude
Thx for the tips, shame tho, this 512 max cons thing is a big concern if it means a max of 512 sources in p2p.
If this is the case, After using USB for over 5 yrs, I'm beginning to wonder if Ethernet is the best method. since with USB, there is no max ip connections limit, and using both down/up bandwidth at full capacity is stable too. Besides the extra resource usage, which isnt really noticable, even with KWF) was just pure hell the 1st yr using the Alcatel drivers, but since Thompson came in, the drivers have been pretty stable. I thought Ethernet would be a sweeter solution, but the Voyager has crashed more times in a day than the USB st330 does in a yr and its hard to do much of anything without hitting this limit & even refusing access to the router itself. (unless I have a broken 205).
It's ok for me, I can plug my USB back in, but my sis is stuck with it since she upgraded to the 2.2mbit bt line.
BT said the Speedtouch 330 is not suitable for the 2.2mbit line, so they made her buy the Voyager205, but after problems, they sent her another, so 2 for £25 aint too bad, means I get to play with one & help her out.
If there is something wrong with my view on this, please let me know.
thx cor
hi can you help i have a smile cam but when we try to view over the net we get no pic can someone help as i really have not got a hope in hell many thnaks adam
Hi, i found the website very helpful it helped me understand using my router allot better than i did. I tried to open ports 6881-6889 like you gave the recipy for and 49210 but on azureus it said nat error when testing the port and then said it couldnt access it, and on bit torrent i still get the yellow light and downloads are goin painfully slow. If you could give me some information to help i would really apreciate it because its bin like this for AGES and isnt getting better. I have no firewall on pc, firewall on router was of and stil didnt work so i put it back on, i got 205 voyager, i got 1mb downstream and like 288 upstream..? my pcs ip is 192.168.1.3 and i changed the recipes to suit it. If you can help me in the right direction PLZ e-mail me it would save me so much hassle, and ur webbie rocks for info. Thx.
RiZLA yes, there's something wrong with your view! your USB connexion was with a different modem. the 512 max is limitation of the 205, regardless of how you connect it, that's 512 simultaneous IP sessions. If you connect the 205 by USB, you still have 512 limit PLUS it will disconnect you every few minutes! The only way to increase the limit, is to use a different modem.
Jeff, Ian, are you really sorted now? If in doubt, make a port-forwarding rule!
adam please provide more details. what cam exactly? what software? is it a server? does it need an incoming port? tell us anything you think may be relevant.
Mick, run through the checklist at the foot of the troubleshooter page, sounds like something's amiss. ensure you have set the exact same port in Azureus, for instance (49210, or whatever).
I'm not at home today, so I can't fiddle with my router, it's Easter! take a break dudes!
;o)
hi
Hmm... I have big trouble...
:((( (hi is very sad)
I think, I killed my router.
I came home from work, I was quite tired that evening and I started to continue the rebuilding of my new home-network. I,ve changed three lines in the script file, because I wanted to switch it to dhcp client mode.
And since that when I switch it on, the router isn't working, just the 5 leds are lighting. I tried to reset it (many of times), but the symptom is just the same.
Here are the original script lines:
modify dhcp server cfg enable
create dhcp server pool start-ip 192.168.1.3 poolid 0 end-ip 192.168.1.34 mask 255.255.255.0 dname laptop gwy 192.168.1.1
modify snmp trap disable
create ethernet intf ifname eth-0 ip 192.168.1.1 mask 255.255.255.0
create usb intf ifname usb-0 ip 192.168.1.2 mask 255.255.255.0
And here are the magic lines, the creature of my "genius" brain:
modify snmp trap disable
create ethernet intf ifname eth-0 usedhcp local
create usb intf ifname usb-0 ip 192.168.1.1 mask 255.255.255.252
Do you have any idea how can I reset it?
Thanks all of your help
AgentGates
agentgates, you are trying to have the 205 to get its IP address from a different DHCP server on your LAN? that's crazee! It's the gateway! how will you plug the gateway address into other machines if it keeps moving? anyways..
Have you tried poking something sharp into that wee hole at the back of the 205? If you have, then run the v1.6 firware upgrade; that should zap it. If you haven't, then poke something in!
;o)
Hello there.
Thanks for all the info, it's been a great help! Awkward as it is, I see the many benefits of this little box...
I've followed all of your guidelines to the letter. I'm still having problems, though. I can't seem to be able to set up a static IP for my computer away from it's preset dynamic range of ...1.3 - ...1.34 (I can't find a way to tell if I'm using the static one I set up at ...1.50!). Different sites proclaim different methods of how to set this up. I can figure out how to configure my pc to use a static IP, but how do I configure the router? Should I have set up a static address outside of the standard range, or what?
Also, I'm running eMule, and even though I've set up port forwarding for it (as you described), download connectivity and rate is weak compared to the very strong upload rate. Any help?
I have no other devices connected to my router, so I have no real need to use it as a router. Is there any way you can disable the router aspect and use the box simply as modem, no strings attatched?
Finally, my biggest problem. Whilst running eMule, I can use no other internet apps on my pc (i.e. IE(!), Messenger etc.). I've checked and double-checked all of my internal pc settings and everything is fine... Is this something to do with port forwarding? What's the deal?
Although I'm very new to all of this router/internet business, I am very computer literate, so relative newbie-speak would be appreciated.
Ta! =)
I have used the following telnet commands to enable me to see more servers when playing: medal of honer online.
modify nbsize maxipsess 512
modify nat global udptimeout 10
commit
reboot
I would like to portfoward my game port for Mohaa but not shure what port / ports to uses. when i portscan while game is running and connected to my favorit server it lists the following: 1915-12203 running and 12203 listed on its own aswell.
please help
yes, u misunderstand me, I know the USB function of the 205 uses some kind of virtual ethernet type thing that normal USB modems dont use.
with the 205, even in USB mode, the router still has the public ip & eth .1.2 address while u have .1.4. and yes, I knew the 512 limit would exist in either mode, but ONLY on the 205.
However, with a normal USB modem, like Speedtouch 330, voyager 10x, etc. there is no maxip Limit, no crashes, no lost connectivity whatsoever, the extra resource usage is minimal. The only downside is that if u want to ics over LAN, u'll have to install some 3rd party ics software because microsoft ics is useless, but right now, standard USB is looking to be the most reliable solution.
How on earth BT expected my sister to use this router is beyond me, she has enough trouble doing menial things like extracting zips, copying files etc. she will never be able to work this router out. if she didnt have me, she would be royally screwed.
oh and about BT forcing her to buy it when upgrading to 2.2mbit. I have a friend that also upgraded, but he remains on the standard usb voyager100.
something stinks.
update: my sis just rang BT, they say they have no idea why she was told to buy the 105 & she can send it back for refund. but she's now back on the voy105 & all is well :)
thx cor.
oops, typo.
they say they have no idea why she was told to buy the 205
shame u cant edit your comments, but then that would need user accounts wouldnt it?
Dear Cor,
Yes i am sure i am sorted now mate. Just want to thank you for your help. I know you have not said much to me about the problems i have had, but your pages of info do give all that i needed and are also set out well.
Thanks again for help mate.
creeg, you don't need to setup anything on the router, it's up to the private machine to supply its own IP, and then other machines on the LAN (including the router) will simply respect that, unless there's some kind of conflict, like you have DHCP enabled on the router, AND you are attempting to use an IP from its DHCP pool (192.168.1.3 - 192.168.1.34 is the default pool)
Simply disable DHCP, or use an address outside this range. you're done! no further configuration required. As for eMule, is KAD running? It's probably best to disable that. Or you might want to experiment with very short TCP/UDP timeouts.
There's no way, afaik, to use the 205 as a "simple USB modem", and anyway, the disadvantages far outweigh the advantages, at least for most folk. Connecting a Windows® machine directly to the internet simply isn't smart.
prv.joker, here's the ports for mohaa..
I got these from here..
http://www.tmmworld.com/Default.aspx?tabid=56I've also seen the 12299 - 12310 range mentioned, so it would probably be best to create a single udp rule for ports 12201 - 12300..
create ipf rule entry ruleid 12201 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq udp destport range 12201 12300 seclevel high medium low
create nat rule entry ruleid 12201 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.3 lcladdrto 192.168.1.3 destportfrom num 12201 destportto num 12300
I don't know about 1915. What's that for?
RiZLA If I were even slightly paranoid, I might surmise that BT started supplying this router especially because it limits the total IP sessions to 512. Out of the box it's set to 192! P2P scares ISP's. perhaps this was there attempt to curtail p2p usage on their network. hmm?
Simply, the only way around the limit is to use a different modem/router. And as for the USB Vs Ethernet argument, there isn't one. Do you know of any ISP's, or webservers of any sort that are connected to their backbone's by USB? For unlimited P2P connexions, buy a good modem/router and connect it by ethernet. Linksys and DLink make some great boxes that are near identical to the 205 in funnctionality, yet don't suffer from the units' inherent limits.
The instructions here are for folk that want to make the most of the FREE hardware that comes with BT's broadband packages. If you want more, you'll need to spend some cash. But watch out, when the bandwidth limits hit in a few weeks, they include UP AND DOWNload bandwidth, so maybe then you'll be want to curtail your OWN usage!
I don't find the IP session limits to be a real problem, and I've always got a few torrents on the go, eMule running, my own webserver, plus surfing/mail/IRC on multiple machines. If you are mindful of the limits, and configure your private machines accordingly, you can squeeze a lot in.
Most modems can handle way more than 2MB, by the way; so if you have an old speedtouch, or voyager 100, or something like that, you can keep on using it!
for now..
;o)
ps.. gr8 news Ian! I sometimes find it difficult to sleep with "unresolved tech"
"how will you plug the gateway address into other machines if it keeps moving? anyways.."
The DHCP server ALWAYS gives same IP address for each device by MAC address. So, the routers IP address and the gateways address always same.
"Have you tried poking something sharp into that wee hole at the back of the 205?"
Yes. Same trouble... :(
Thanks for your quick response on : Ports Mohaa
will try them as soon as ive had a few hours sleep, lol.
Once again Thank you Very much. ......Joker
Hi all,
I'm having an intersting time getting VPN pass-through to work. Actually, to be honest, I'm not entirely sure it's not working.
When I telnet to the router and issue commands for L2TP I get a "Feature not supported" message.
Example:
$get l2tp global config
Error: Feature not supported
$get l2wall cfg
Error: Feature not supported
This is a obviously a bad sign, but I'm hoping it's not terminal.
Can anyone help me solve this issue and make VPN pass-through work for certain.
I already have port 500 opened and forwarded to my main PC which is where the VPN client is.
I would really like the router be the VPN client so I can access it from any PC on the LAN. But if I can only get it working from my main PC I'll be happy.
Thx guys,
mub
hey again cor =D
I have another problem xD
It's nuthin major, but i think theres something wrong with my connection while playing a game (JKA), see my ping on most servers is like 200+ but when i was on 512k i used 2 have a ping around the same amount, so surely i shud have a better conenction?? right??
The Port the game uses is 29070, and i have made both a IPF and a NAT rule for the port, so i was wondering what else could be wrong with it??
Pic (click) -
these are the rules i used,
create ipf rule entry ruleid 29070 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq tcp destport eq num 29070 seclevel high medium low
nat:
create nat rule entry ruleid 29070 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.4 lcladdrto 192.168.1.4 destportfrom num 29070 destportto num 29070
any ideas what i missed/did wrong??
thanx man,
Bael
I am having problems connecting my voyager 205 to xlink kai. Can anyone please help!
yeh, sorry cor, I dont mean to come here & bash the sole reason for your site. just cant help speaking my mind. :)
I didnt think all routers/ethernet solutions where this cumbersome.
My Argument is 205 vs USB, not ethernet as a whole.
I'm just trying to find the best for my sister with what she has.
she probably would have suffered for another year tho, without your help.
I'm running a web server too, for my hobby site, RenderMiNE. which I wish could go public one day.
1 thing I notice with the 205, is that sometimes when I 1st go to the website, some of the graphics are red X's till I refresh, then its alright. never had this on the USB. not really sure if its 205 related or not.
hosts
192.168.1.3 render.mine.nu
Afternoon cor,
Heres hoping you remember my problem from a few pages back, just recovering from some crappy flu thing so bear with me :(
Anyway I would like to get back to geting my FTP up and running and was wondering what info you need from me so that you may help me out. You mentioned config files, which ones do you need and how do I best get them.
Everything else works bloody perfectly games,P2P,connecting to other FTP's etc etc
Ok thats me done for now hope easter was good, will check back soon for reply. Thanks for patience with an inexperienced router noob.
Afternoon cor,
Heres hoping you remember my problem from a few pages back, just recovering from some crappy flu thing so bear with me :(
Anyway I would like to get back to geting my FTP up and running and was wondering what info you need from me so that you may help me out. You mentioned config files, which ones do you need and how do I best get them.
Everything else works bloody perfectly games,P2P,connecting to other FTP's etc etc
Ok thats me done for now hope easter was good, will check back soon for reply. Thanks for patience with an inexperienced router noob.
RiZLA, I ddin't think you were bashing anything, until you said, "...come here & bash the sole reason for your site". wtf! dude, this section isn't even on the list!
See my last post re: 205 Vs USB. that's not an argument! ethernet is better than usb for network connexions. And most routers are better than the 205 for running lots of connexions. Simple. But if you want to make the most of BT's FREE solution (the 205), connect it by ethernet. Or use some other solution. USB is okay, the old "gree frog" modems, and similar, still connect millions of broadband users every day. no problem. But USB with a 205 is Not Good. We have established this.
And your webserver is live right now! public! What red X's? Is this when you browse your own site? looks fine from the outside, that's what matters. When you access a local website, it's best to use a local domain name, for testing. check out my hosts page, link on this page.
Gary, what is xlink kai?
Bael, a faster connexion won't improve your ping times. The only way to do that is to use less congested network routes, in other words, play with folk in the same geographical location as yourself. UDP across the Atlantic just isn't reliable, for example, too many unpredictable hops.
A 2MB line means now you could send four times more pings at once! (that's just an illustration, other factors would prevent this actually happening in practice)
by the way, thanks for the screenies, THAT'S how to frame a question!
mub, VPN is not in my ken at all, I've managed to avoid it pretty well up til now. In theory the unit does VPN, and folk have certainly dropped in to say they've got it working, but no one's said exactly how. I get the same response for that command. hmm. I hope BT's 1.6 firmware update didn't knock something. If it did, you guys better get complaining to BT ASAP! Anyone still with the original firmware, to check?
All I see in the unit is an ALG rule..
create alg port portno 1701 prot num 17 algtype l2tpport 500 is used for IKE (Manual Key Exchange, there's also an ALG for this), but it looks like the actual tunnel happens on port 1701. I don't know if you need to create rules for this, NAT may or may not interfere with the tunneling itself, depending on the protocols used. I take you want the 205 to make the VPN connexion, so that all your machines can access the tunnel.bt voyager 205
Some 205 documentation talks about "Multiple VPN – PPTP/L2TP Pass-Through", so perhaps it can't actually be the client, simply allow you to run a VPN client on your pc. For sure, all the telnet commands I've tried just give errors. If I had somewhere to VPN to, I might be able to look into this.
agentgates, don't worry about the dhcp, it's just kinda ironic if you think about it. now try a firmware flash!
ahh, Pod51 FTPd is easy, just bung in a few rules..
create ipf rule entry ruleid 2121 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq tcp destport range 20 21 seclevel high medium low
create nat rule entry ruleid 2121 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.100 lcladdrto 192.168.1.100 destportfrom num 20 destportto num 21
create ipf rule entry ruleid 50000 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq tcp destport range 50000 50100 seclevel high medium low
create nat rule entry ruleid 50000 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.100 lcladdrto 192.168.1.100 destportfrom num 50000 destportto num 50100
The first pair setup the regular port 20/21 FTP stuff, the second pair are for a "passive" range, which you would also need to configure in your FTPd (FTP server software), whatever you use. Alter 192.168.1.100 to the IP of the machine running the FTPd, of course.
I'll likely get around to adding a recipe for this. Don't forget, Vitamin C (not from pills, though) is your friend!
l8rz..
;o)
"agentgates, don't worry about the dhcp, it's just kinda ironic if you think about it. now try a firmware flash!"
Thanks :)
But, I still have the bigest problem:
How can I upload a firmware if the router doesn't work?
Actually, I tried to reach the router on the USB port, but the router's USB port hasn't IP address.
Do You have any low-level miracle for this problem?
Can I reach the routers flash by direct addressing?
Or can I chuck it out?
hi cor,
Thanks for the input. Just so's you know, I've successfully made a VPN connection from my WinXP PC to a friends VPN host. All I have is port 500 forward to my PC. It turned out to be his smelly Linksys router giving us problems. He swapped his old zyxel 643 back in and hey presto one working VPN.
As far as getting the Voyager to be the VPN client I think your probably right. But seeing as it works fine from my XP box It's not really an issue so don't sweat over answering that one.
Heres another question for you tho. I want to make sure uPNP is turned off on my Voyager. My FW rules set sometimes changes for no "obvious" reason. I get a bunch of extra rules and some of the original rules disapear. Any Clues?
Thx for the info, keep up the great work.
mub - Yawwwwwn...bed time.
K thnx man :P
heh guess it doesn't help that every server i play in, is across the atlantic lol xD
yeh np dude, Im still amazed there are kind people like yourself on the internet that are willing to offer your knowledge for free.
Reminds me there is hope for human civilisation :)
nutha question man =D
I'm just on BT Broadband 2mb package, not the Yahoo! one, an i was wondering, you know like you get a usage/download limit of 15gb per month, does that include files i download of BT, or just files i download of normal websites?? sorry for tarded n00b question lol :P
thanx,
Bael
agentgates check further up the comments, there has already been some low-level messing around. See the public archives for files/more instructions, too. (link above the comments)
Bael, your limit includes everything. I'm using bold text because I don't think it's quite sunk in for most folk. That means every email you send and receive, every webpage, ftp tranaction, p2p file shared, all files uploaded and downloaded, dns requests, EVERYTHING!!!
Mine is 30GB/month, and I know that won't be enough. I'll have to cut back some. When your limit is reached you will be reduced to a 115kb/s service. not so bad. Or you can buy extra GB for extravegant prices.
Once again, The Limit Includes Everything!
hey! great news mub! Does it work without the rule in place, I wonder?
And hey! Riz, I give it for free, but I do still like to occasionally remind folk about that big PayPal button at the top of the page.
for now..
;o)
By the way, mub, perhaps the UPnP is what makes the VPN work so easily. It's easy enough to disable..
upnp cfg nbstatus disablebut beware; your VPN might not work after a (router) reboot without UPnP capabilities. Worth testing, though, and disabling if you can. UPnP sorta gives me the willies, even if it is only happening on the LAN-side.
;o)
Hi all,
does enybody know how to make broadband with this router work on linux? I see linux for first time in my life, so dont know nothing about it. Sitting 2nd day trying to find smf, useless, if you know help please.
My pc connected to usb port, and my linux didnt detected nothing (i think so, im trying mandrake 10.1), tryied lan, detected card but not router. Im i missing smf, do i need drivers?
PS. Very helpfull site, i tryed and i enjoed:)
Tnx m8s.
Hey doink, Linux should be a no-brainer. See the static IP page for how to setup the Linux box itself. Once you set the IP to 192.168.1.something, and gateway and DNS server address to 192.168.1.1, the Linux box will be connected, just like that!
If it's not happening, run through the checklist on the troubleshooter page. Let us know if you stick somewhere.
;o)
lol well ive had this connection for about 2 weeks and ive already DLed loads of BT lol xD
Do you get some sort of warning when your running out lol??
Cus i must be getting close an i have another 2 weeks 2 goto till it starts again lol =P
i with bt broadband got a bt voyager router and im trying to set up incoming tcp ports and incoming/outgoing udp packets, ive spoke to bt, they didnt help too much, was wondering if anyone had this same problem and could help me set the router up for the tcp and udp.. plz help my email is matglover2003@hotmail.com thnx
i with bt broadband got a bt voyager router and im trying to set up incoming tcp ports and incoming/outgoing udp packets, ive spoke to bt, they didnt help too much, was wondering if anyone had this same problem and could help me set the router up for the tcp and udp.. plz help my email is matglover2003@hotmail.com thnx
can you do me a fav please i am not a comp minded and programing is very hard
i wont to use p2p bittorrent but i am allways being not connected bt dont help in any way or form as to port forward thay are very un helpfull
please can you email me the commands to put into the router via telnet as to allow me to port forward.
many thanks
hair pulling will stop sooon :)
thanks
Well, Bael, the limits haven't taken effect yet, but will do in May, from which time you'll be able to monitor you're usage at the BT site.
You will be sent email warnings at 75% and 90%, or something like that, plenty warning, anyway. Moral is; make the most of it while you can, like now!
Yeah. glover, pretty much everyone has the same problems, that's why we're here. Check out all the pages here, try the links at the very top, more than likely you're question, whatever it is, is already answered. If not, just ask!
Same for uksparky, it's the recipes page you need. have a look!
If anyone wants one-to-one personal email attention, simply drop a tenner in my PayPal account and then email me your FULL details; I'll get on it right away, Sir!
for now..
;o)
lol i thought there must be something wrong with it lol, but they just hadn't started, cus after i made my above post, i checked how much stuff i'd actually got in my Bit Torrent downloads folder, and i had over 40GB of stuff in there that ive DLed lol xD so i thought BT was broke or something lol =P
I found to my dismay that the Solwise SAR110 firmware won't work in the 205.
Having said that loading the Solwise image doesn't total the 205 you just need to reload a BT version of the software.
Tom.
AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
ive been thro your pages many times now and i still cant manage to get anything working.
im trying to host a game (hidden and dangerous2) and to make things simple i just want to open ports 11001-11020 udp and tcp
so i stealthed my router (v205) and used your firewall/port forwading examples with a few changes
eg
create ipf rule entry ruleid 11001 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq tcp destport range 11001 11020 seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 11001 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq udp destport range 11001 11020 seclevel high medium low
create nat rule entry ruleid 11001 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.35 lcladdrto 192.168.1.35 destportfrom num 11001 destportto num 11001
so i run game and try to check ports with "Advanced port scanner" from www.radmin.com and it seems no ports are open
i have turned off my windows firewall (XP2) and set up static ip to 192.168.1.35
ive been to a few forums, and the more i look the more im confused ,,LOL
hope you can help me, im not bothered about getting game to host just yet, i just want to be able to open/forward a port succesfully
help me please, its doing my head in
crusti
if i had a tenner i pay you belive me i would.
i have not nor a paypal account
please can you do it for me as a fav 2 wks trying to sort this all i like to use is bit torrent and be connected..
please can you email me m8
Crusti
Looks to me as if you have only opened port 11001 in your
nat not 11001 to 11020?
Could be your problem?
best
barney
Hi, help please.
Till yesterday it was fine with our BT Voyager 205 adsl router modem. From today morning we are unable to connect to internet. My pc is getting the ip 192.168.1.3, iam able to ping to the router (192.168.1.1). When I have gone to the troubleshoot webpage and run the diagnostic, it is passing in the first two steps. In the third step which is connection to exchange (did'nt remember the exact word) - is saying as FAILED.
In the home page also, the user name is defaulted, and i dont know the password. (need to give the password and press connect button).
Could anyone please help me in getting my net wroking please.
many thanks in advance.
Prasad.
morning!
First, Crusti, barney is right. Your rules may have opened a range of ports, but you are forwarding only one port. (well spotted dude!)
uksparky, if you frame your question, tell us exactly what you are trying to do, exactly what you have done (include actual commands, like Crusti did, above) and exactly what errors you are getting, you'll get a solution back! Include details of private machine IP, ports you need, application/server you are trying to get working (you mentioned bittorrent in your last post, more details like that, please!), etc, etc, etc. more info is better, make it a great big post! don't worry about the web server, it can handle it! Without at least some basic information, NO ONE can help you.
Yeah Bael, keep your torenteering hat on! It will be a matter of weeks before the golden age of unlimited bandwidth ends, and there's so much good stuff out there..
Tell me tmdg, how did you resuscitate the unit? Did it accept a flash, or did you have to open it up? just curious.
Prasad, the default "voyager205.user@btbroadband.com" with empty password should work fine. Maybe your exchange has a temporary glitch. doesn't sound like a router fault. The advanced diagnostic test would serve you better.
Physically check all your cables. A mouse may have eaten through your modem cable (or something) Try power-cycling (switch off for as couple of minutes and switch back on) the router, and re-connect to BT.
If that doesn't work, get BT to test your line. Use this number.. 0845 6007030 which takes you directly to the department you want, even at 4am!
for now..
;o)
This guide is wicked but need a NAT recipe for LIME WIRE ANY SUGGESTIONS???
I need some help as im alot of troble. Im trying to configure my voyager 205 modem to forward port 80 to my server which is located on 192.168.1.4 so that i can host web sites. Im also trying to forward port 3389 (Windows Terminal services) to the same server. Everything i try isnt working and i dont know why!
I am also trying to forward port 21, as well as some of my own ports for MMS. I have followed everything on your site which i think is a great help, but i cant get the moedem to forward the ports.
I have run a special programme called network monitor on my server to pick out any anycoming HTTP traffic or 3389, and port 21 traffic but it shows nothing which means data is not getting to the server.
Please can you help...?
From Scott Walker
well errr mmmmm eerrrr mmmmm *&^%%^^& up
create ipf rule entry ruleid 5 dir out act accept storestate enable seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 500000 ifname public dir in act deny seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 6881 ifname public dir in act accept destport range 6881 6899 transprot eq tcp seclevel high medium low
modify fwl global blistprotect enable attackprotect enable dosprotect enable
delete ipf rule entry ruleid 6881
create nat rule entry ruleid 100000 napt
create nat rule entry ruleid 6881 rdr prot num 6 lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.3 lcladdrto 192.168.1.3 destportfrom num 6881 destportto num 6889
firewall:
create ipf rule entry ruleid 6881 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq tcp destport range 6881 6889 seclevel high medium low
nat:
create nat rule entry ruleid 6881 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.3 lcladdrto 192.168.1.3 destportfrom num 6881 destportto num 6889
errrrr vmmmmmmmmmmmm
just copied and pate in the commands i saw.
i no i am a laimo but i just wont to get port forwarding for use with bit torrent
many thanks
email is uro2000@btinternet.com
many thanks
Rudu These are the rules i used for Limewire, though don't take my word for it lol :P I'm a n00b 2
firewall:
create ipf rule entry ruleid 6346 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq tcp destport eq num 6346 seclevel high medium low
nat:
create nat rule entry ruleid 6346 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.4 lcladdrto 192.168.1.4 destportfrom num 6346 destportto num 6346
But i have great dl speeds on LW so im guessin its right =D
Thanks Barney
my mistake, its right when i checked the "commitedconfig" file, its a typo in my explanation. "embarassed or what, should have used cut and paste"
any more suggestions, Thanks in advance
crusti
PS does turning off the (XP2)firewall in the settings really work, or does it just turn of the warnings and still block ports
ive also used your P2P port probe test page, the result/error i get is
connexion timed out (probably stealthed)
i did do the stealth from the top of the page
create ipf rule entry ruleid 5 dir out act accept storestate enable seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 500000 ifname public dir in act deny seclevel high medium low
so do i have to move my commands ??? if so how and where,, can i just edit "commitedcfg" and upload it back to router?
crusti
also i got rule id numbers wrong, but they are also right in "commitedconfig"
i used your p2p port probe, and the error i get is
connexion timed out (probably stealthed)
do i need to move the rules?, i used telnet to put the rules in, can i just edit the config file and upload it back?
i could post commit file if you want, or is that just being silly
crusti
hi cor,
semi upto date on whats been happening, hard drive is back to where it should be maxtor sent a 250gb replacement for the 200gb one so i`m not complaining. changed name to ianw as i saw ian got nabbed, i`ll be in and out of here over the next two weeks as fatherinlaw has the big c and has been given 2 weeks so as you can imagine things here are a little heckit at mo.
barney, sorry i haven`t got back to you regarding the files you sent me but if i remember correctly from before my harddrive died, the network traffic was just self tests and loop backs which is perfectly normal (basically its a fail safe method of checking that the programs are doing what they are meant to be doing)
Ian
Some VPN Success!
Using (Corz-Stealthed) 205 and VPN-1 SecureRemote (mine is configured for IKE not IPSec in the SecureRemote client settings found in the network control panel, the 205 does both I think amongst others).
It would seem that VPN pass-through config is default on the router, there are ALG settings for the common protocols, read this great site to find out how to display these settings.
Okay so a few minutes reading down the list of postings here paid off. I know the 205 can handle VPN pass-through, it says so on the tin. ANT's posting above, (search for "ant -") mentioned s/he had discovered that the network being connected to had a device on it with the IP address 192.168.1.1 as such when trying to register (?) the 205's ip address it get's a conflict and doesn't issue a warning, the connection just times out. The solution is to change the base IP address range that the router assigns IP addresses from.
The first thing to do is create a new address pool from which to assign addresses to devices attached to your home network. This is possible via the 205's "Advanced/IP Addressing" page and selecting the "DHCP Server" tab. Make a note of the current settings and create a new pool, repacing the third number in the ip address sequence to whatever you want to use. (e.g. 192.186.1.1 becomes 192.168.50.1) and so on. Copy the sequence for the existing pool therefore start is 192.168.50.3 and finish is 192.168.50.34 (if you have more than 30 devices on your network, set this limit higher), the gateway address should be 192.168.50.1 and the Netmask is 255.255.255.0. These are the minimum config options.
So you'll end up with a new pool like this:
Start Finish Gateway Status
192.168.50.3 192.168.50.34 192.168.50.1 Enabled
Then disbable the default address pool using the edit/pencil icon at the end of it's listing.
Go back to the "IP Address" tab and change the "LAN IP Address" to 192.168.50.1
you'll get a warning about not being able to reach the new address if you don't have a route. Submit the changes and wait, it takes a while to bring you back to the new page. Eventually you will get the admin page back with the new setting in the "LAN IP Address" fields, click save or you will lose your new settings if you have to rebot the 205.
Once I had made this change, I logged into my VPN with no problem at all. This problem is a prime example of why you should change the default IP address of our network equipment when installing it.
I hope this helps. This site certainly did me.
Matt
Please can anyone help with :Telnet
For the last 2 days,when i run telnet i get a blank cli with no user name/password prompt, and if i try to type anything it closes
Can anyone tell me why this has started,
When you open telnet you need to connect to the modem with the following command,
Asuming that the default gateway is still set to 192.168.1.1 you need to type o 192.168.1.1 which will connect you to the modem. It will then promt you for your username 'admin' and you password. The password will not show up as you type.
Does this help?
From Scott
No sorry Scott, when this happens as soon as you type the CLI closes...?
/me shakes birthday celebrations from head.. "omg! can't leave this page for a minute!"
In no particular order (cuz I'm still a bit hungover) ..
Rudu, that reminds me, I'll need to add a gnutella rule to the recipes page! (thanks Bael)
prv.joker, reboot your router. this has happened to me once. that was the cure!
matanza, matt, good work! there's definitely enough info here for someone to get their VPN working. I'll likely mash it all together and drop it somewhere more visible. thanks again.
Scott Walker, I was going to scan your box, but it looks like you are giong through a proxy. no worries.
My first thought is "did he run through the checklist?". You need to go eliminate any "obvious" things (I put that in quotes, because they are only obvious once you know about them!) static IP, no other firewalls, etc. Seer the troubleshooting page, and tick everything! If it's not something on the list, get back here and we'll dig deeper. Everything you are trying to do has been done before, so it's likely something minor, XP firewall perhaps.
uksparky, getting there dude! lots of questions, like is "192.168.1.3" actually the IP of your private machine? Did you go through the troubleshooter checklist? The rules look okay, so it's likely something else. Do the checklist, one-by-one, and also consider altering your BitTorrent port to something (much) higher.
crusti, yeah, turning off the firewall in the settings turns it OFF. But if you want to make extra sure, you could disable the service altogether. It definitely sounds like you have a firewall running somewhere.
Sure, you can upload an edited cfg file, but only after you've gotten the rules to work the regular way. uploading a non-functioning cfg would be a Very Bad Idea!
hey ian(w), no hurry man! I got another Maxtor here waiting to go back, just figuring out the threatening legal letter as we speak!
apologies if I missed something, in a bit of a time-crunch today!
for now..
;o)
ps.. as well as the usual advice of RUN THROUGH THE TROUBLESHOOTER CHECKLIST! I would also advise that when you post here, DO NOT use a proxy, and DO NOT reboot your router (if possible) until you've had a reply, that way I can run some tests on your IP, which may or may not be useful.
hello again
im still trying, still no joy using Advanced port scanner.
Also i have just looked at 192.168.1.1 Advanced/Security/IP filter/custom and there are 38 rules on the page???
do i need all of these? i could copy and send if anybody wants to see them, i dont want to remove them without knowing what they all do
the stealth rules near the top of this page, do they have to be at the start of rules, or one at the start, and one at the end???
cheers crusti
ok still getting
Error (port 68...
iam stealthed
useing azureus bit torrent now just cant get any ports to port forward all of them are red
azureus bit torrent cant connect do a port test and all i get is
testing port 6883
then i get
NAT error
on any of my ports
please help
many thanks uksparky
Error (Port 6881 is blacklisted, use another port (0.00018 seconds))
(a range within the region 49152 through 65535 is preferable
testing port 49512
then i get
NAT error
Cor,
Thanks for yor help,
I have run throught the checklist. I am not trying to forward the ports to a windows xp machine but to a windows server 2003 machine. I have no windows firewall running or anyother antivirus programes. I have turned off the external wan access to the modems webpage and still cant get the port forwarded. I have a dynamic ip acddress thats why i use my host name publictransfer.no-ip.org which resolves to my address.
I am getting desprate and my mum and brothers are going mad as the internet connection sometimes slows right down.
I am going to go back to my prvious modem if i cant get this one sorted.
Thanks Again
From Scott
i dont run through a proxy either
hoot now i am getting tracker status OK
whoot
have i done it ?
now i am getting connection error :(
testing port 6883
then i get
NAT error
on any of my ports
testing port 49512
then i get
NAT error
hello,
read through all your comments(seriously), still cant open ports, here in thailand with xavix8124r, think the telecom hacked the firmware and wanna flash. do you have a step by step tutorial somewhere?
Thanks reboot worked
Scott, When I access your domain, I get a IIS under construction page. Is that you? I have to ask; why did you stop using the old modem? email me your exported configuration file and I'll have a wee look.
crusti, please read all the pages here, more slowly. You would know the answer to your question. (this page and stealth page, too)
joka, for firmware stuff, check the public archives (link above the comments here) The recipes page has the port-forwarding instructions; the other pages (links at very top) are worth a read, too.
aye, prv.joker , that usually sorts out most things. I've noticed this occasionally when I have multiple telnet sessions open with the router. It won't let you login again until you close one of the others. rebooting anything is a bummer, but c'est la vie..
;o)
can i email my configuration file to you to look at i can connect to any torrents now says unable to port forward connection refused.
please help
many thanks
sure
;o)
cor
which version of the firmware are you running the bt one or the globespan one with imported bt config
Ian
HI
maybe i should have explaned myself better, if i delete the other rules then nothing works (msn,Yim, browser)
and i have read and reread the stealth, main and troubleshooting again and again
but the only response i get from p2p portprobe is
connexion timed out (probably stealthed)
maybe im just getting to old for this sort of thing, the more i read about this router and the more i try to open a port, the more confused i get. LOL
so i need to prove that i can open a port, if not then i just dont understand what im reading anymore,,,,, help me please
i have change the pc`s ip to 192.168.1.35
i am turning off the blacklist protection and windows firewall, and starting game before i try p2p, is there anything you can think of as im trying everything that i have read
crusti
crusti
Are you connected by ethernet?
best
barney
anyone give me a hand to allow windows media encoderto allow me to stream. i am connect via ethernet and have tried everyhting but no-one is able to connect.i also have another problem when trying to host game servers such a counter strike, and in a simmilar problem iwhen i try to acess many online games i get latency's of about 40 then when i try to connect it shoots u to 2000. please can someone help me i know there are a lot of problems but thanks for any help.
here we 4 sharing internet, funny thing is when we all downloading, (all p2p app)the router modem randomly disconnected, then back to normal, few min later, again, disconnect, whats wrong with it, we can download same time or problem with adsl router modem
Hi guys
Barney, i am using ethernet
but im going to reformat HD/reinstall windows
this time im NOT going to install BT software,
and i will have to open all the ports on game for to start communicating, so i will try some software first that only needs 1 or 2 ports to work,
thanks for your pactience with me
crusti
Cor,
Sorry i will get round to e-mailing the config file to you but at the moment i am very busy starting to publish web sites. I didnt think i could get it to work with the old router but i was rong and now im flying.
Cheers
From Scott Walker
I am stealthed, have followed all of the instructions on the 205 page and thanks to you have managed to get emule back to its cheerful double green arrowed self.
However, specific game (Dawn Of War, newish RTS by Relic), is still having major problems, cannot host games (that are joinable) despite forwarding port 6112 (which the game readme details as required)as well as all the ports gamespy requires, and am still having big probs joining games with more then 2 people already in them (can't connect to the game). Help?
Hi
I have good through your advice about opening ports, but when I use your p2p probe it only says success for one port which is port 80. This is a list of ports I have opened
TCP ports:
80, 6667, 28910, 29900, 29920
UDP ports:
4321, 27900
All I want is to play Command & Conquer on line, why is this so hard to do
I'm running the BT standard v1.6 firmware (the one before they removed and replaced it) which I presume is the same as the current v1.6 firmware, though I haven't verified this. Works great. What are you running Ian(w)?
The firmware I'm using is the one available in the public archive.
jimmyjojojr, dude, these questions are simply to generic to work with. If nothing is working, then clearly something fundamental is wonky. go through the toubleshooter list and ensure everything on it is AOK, then get back here with specific errors. really, that's the best way.
Eric, it just sounds like you're overloading the 205's IP session table. I presume you applied the max IP session tweak, but that still won't get you enough sessions to run "many" p2p apps simultaneously. Not in their default state, anyway.
crusti, looking forward to working with your BT Driver-FREE system! (I should probably add that to the torubleshooter checklist! .. Remove BT Drivers!)
Scott, I get similar feeback from others, after soaking themselves in these pages for a while, they were able to setup other routers and modems. This was always an intention of mine.
Jon, congratulations on the port-forwarding. Next, it sounds like you need to tweak the time-out settings a bit. I would also google around for (name of game) ports and ensure you haven't missed any. I've seen umpteen so-called "ports lists" which were woefully incomplete. Also always open UDP AND TCP for each port, many manuals don't specify this, even though the game needs it.
Ditch, getting a success result for only port 80 doesn't necessarily mean failure. Although an app may use many ports, it will initially be listening to only one, or maybe two of those ports for the initial connnexion.
After that it's the usual story of running through the checklist, checking for firewalls, tweaking the timeouts, etc. play the game and tell us exactly what fails.
for now..
;o)
Hi Cor ur page rocks, althought im having a little trouble. Im running bit torrent and its yellow lighted and goin painfully slow.
Ive done the recipes for the ports, nat and firewall rules, i followed the steath recipe and i have a static ip - 192.168.1.3 I adjusted the rules to suit my ip address and stuff but downloads still painfuly low. im not sure how to work your port scanner either so cant tell whats wrong. Also i use xbox live and so made a few rules for it, the xbox's ip is: 192.168.1.35 i hope this doesnt interfear.
Last but not least, firewalls, my pc doesnt have one, my router firewall is at high and u said something about netbi0s firewall? well im not sure wat that is how to disable :S ALL HELP IS MUCHLY APRECIATED. Thank you.
Mickey, the IP's should be fine, I'm assuming you have disabled DHCP on the router (always smart).
The other possible firewall is a BIOS firewall (NetBIOS is something else), and that can be accessed from the BIOS setup screens you get when the peecee first boots (by holding down F10, or delete, or whatever). Not all motherboards have a BIOS firewall, but some do.
As For BitTorrent, have you tried a few different torrents? Preferably something with LOTS of seeds, as a test. Even correctly setup clients can get slow torrents, and yellow lights. If you get it all the time, for lots of different torrents, then you definitely have a problem. Also I recommend NOT using ports 6881-6890 for BT.
As for the port probe, simply enter whatever port you are using for your torrents (If you are using azureus, enter whatever port you've set in the connection preferences.) and the probe will attempt to connect to you on that same port. Ensure you have a torrent running when you run the test.
Lastly, for now, did you run through the checklist at the bottom of the troubleshooter page?
;o)
Its me again, I've run several port testers and basically everything is closed, connection refused. Even ports which i have specifically opened using the command lines you gave are stubbornly refusing connections. Any ideas?
Hi Cor, Very nice site you have here
I want to make my own ftp server but dont know how to setup my Voyager 205 Router for this, Cor is it ok if i e-mail you my config file?
Thanks
Sylver123
Hi
I have a speedtouch 580i router. I am trying to configure it to pass a VPN thru to my PC. I have managed to set port forwarding but have been advised to also forward protocol 47 for PPTP pass thru. I have no idea how to do this. Can you please help me or do you know of anyone that can?
Regards
Alix
WOW excelent site. My 205 was working great with all this info it was the perfect setup. But i have recenty uprgraded my PC and have lost the disk with the USB drivers/software, i would be very gratefull if you could emai/post them to me. Many Thanks
thankyouthankyouthankyou!
Sylver123 check out the new section in the recipes page; setting up an FTP server. TADA!
Alix, VPN should pretty much "just work". there are ALG rules in place to allow regular pass-thru. But then, that's the 205. What you need is on the recipes page (check the generic rules), though how they translate to your device, I dunno. Do you have a manual, with the command sysntax? For the 205 you would simply replace "rdr", for "pass", and remove the target IP part of the command.
Jack, I don't recommend using USB, and have subsequently snapped and ritually burned my BT install CD. But you can pick up the drivers here. Have fun! And DO consider using ethernet!
Jon, I'm running out of ideas dude! You got eMule working, yeah? Seems strange that other ports wouldn't work. I just scanned you, and I can't see any open ports on your router, not from this side (assuming you are still at the IP you posted with, if not; sorree other person! hehe). Is eMule still working? Anyway, I'd run through the checklist again, just in case.
for now..
;o)
cor, Thank you
Me again,,,can u help with telnet?
After loging in admin ok
Password ok
succsess
AND YES I HAVE CANGED IT from admin:works fine
if i try to copy paste a nat rule i only get the first letter c
in cmd: window
and then ti freezes?
I have to close it by clicking X
then i login again and still happens every time
If i type rule word for word it says unknown command create?
What am i doing wrong?
i have used a number of your ipf rules no worres
but nat rules are giving me hell, ive worked all night,and trying to sort this out ALL DAY AHHHHH! i need sleep zzzz lol please help
Hi Cor, me again lol. Yup turned of DHCP mode and also deleted a DHCP rule or something lol. Althought im running windows ME and so when i tried to do the static ip thing i ddi it slightly differently seemed alrite tho :S i scanned the ports while using a torrent (stillll yellow lol and has been) and i got "no route to host" and "connexion timed out" only thing left is that firewall which im gona try but first can u suggest some ports for bit torrent other than 6881-6889 and if so mabey ones that are already open lol?. Mabey its jus me cus i nvr have any luck with Pcs :'( Thx for the help.
*******************
Welcome to Viking
*******************
GlobespanVirata Inc., Software Release V1.1
Copyright (c) 2001-2003 by GlobespanVirata, Inc.
login: admin
password:
Login Successful
changed the password at this point did not wont that easy 1 :)
did create ipf rule entry ruleid 5 dir out act accept storestate enable seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 500000 ifname public dir in act deny seclevel high medium low
then did
create ipf rule entry ruleid 6881 ifname public dir in act accept destport range 6881 6899 transprot eq tcp seclevel high medium low
then did
modify fwl global blistprotect enable attackprotect enable dosprotect enable
then did
create nat rule entry ruleid 100000 napt
then did
but its still not port forwarding and i am shown as not connected with bittorrent :(
what else can i do please
uksparky
ip its a ip thing can you email me the setting or a range as to set up the static ip i know i am asking a lot but hey been trying 2 wks to get it there
thanks m8
thank you so much got it all set up again now but am going to take your advice and get me a cheap switch, many thanks
Still at the same IP as when i last posted, after repetaedly using your port probe, everything either times out or is refused. I tried another port probing software and it basically showed up everything as either stealthed or closed.
I have checked my list of NAT rules, they are all there, all directing to this IP.
Emule works just fine, WinMX is also perfecvtly functional.
Uh...hmmmm.
Any last ideas? I tried phoning BT Tech support, the first guy after having my problem described to him said he would just go and talk to a specialist and put me on hold for a minute. After 45minutes on hold I hung up.
the second told me to phone Voyager...and has given me a dead number. WONDERFUL!
Anyone got a working recipe for ssh (22)? I can't get the damned thing to unstealth from teh two golden rules... I want to restrict ssh access to only be allowed from one external address and set up port forwarding to one machine on my lan. Any help appreciated.
I tried the generic port recipes but it didn't work probably, something simple, most likely me...
Cheers
Hi Cor,
Fabulous site, and thanks for sharing.
I have a 205 router, and have stealthed it, and protected it as suggested on your page.
After creaing the 2 rules for the TCP and UDP port....and having eDonkey2000 connect initially....I notice that after about 30 seconds...my internet connection is lost until I quit eDonkey2000. This means that even trying to browse the internet fails. Its as if someone has pulled the plug on my internet.
I did the port probe, and see that i have set up the port forwarding correctly.
I wonder if you might be able to help me out?
Tynee
If any one has successfully established a PPTP VPN through a BT Voyager 205 I would be grateful if you would let me know the firewall/NAT rules you used?
Thanks.
you should add another golden rule
!!! if youre on this page then the new golden rules is NOT to phone BT !!!!
if fact it should come with the package on a little golden card, dont waste time with them, i had hours on hold, or "just putting you thro to the experts" and then cut off
crusti
Hi Cor, just me sitting here on the back burner...sob..sob...lol
I received the new Medatrix 2102 SIP VoIP Voice converter. It works sometimes but calls cannot be received. The 205 assigned it 192.168.1.6 The provider tried to check it from their end but said ports 162 and 161 were blocked by the 205. They suggested I try bridging the 205 , but it did no good. I rest the 205 to factory default again then I have shut off security and intrusion protection, and even deleted all the rules. Still its very intermitient. The puters all work fine coming out the converter, into the wireless/ router so pass through is fine.
So please... how might I set up the 205 as pass through / modem only, as we discussed? or how might I open the ports or bridge this converter properly?
Cheers
Jas
well i'm having probs i trying to run multiplayer server with dungeonsiege but it dont seem to see my main wan ip only 192.168.1.3 i added all the ports to forward and created all the firewall rules still dont work even every port using your port probe says connection refused on all ports even port 80 any ideas
yikes!
okay, prv.joker, that's strange! Have you tried a different client? Like Putty, or something. Also, is your firmware up to date? If not, upgrade it! Also, get your connexion fairly quiet before trying again, I mean don't connect when you have loads of P2P stuff going on at the same time. We're assuming NAT is enabled, here..
modify nat global enableMickey, check out the Azzy recipe on the recipes page, and use THAT port. Azureus really is the finest BT client out there, and using one single port for everything is a real boon. and YES, disable the firewall, disable them ALL. The 205 will be your gateway firewall. that's the best place for it!
uksparky, have you deleted ALL the other rules? There should only be the two "stealth rules" the first rule doesn't provide stealth, quite the opposite, but it's convenient to call them "the two stealth rules"! Delete them ALL! Run through the pages (static IP page, stealth page, etc, links at the very top) and get the router back to basics. THEN start to add the port forwarding stuff.
Jack, my ethernet switch was probably my greatest ever hardware purchase; a friend for life!
Jon, "times out or is refused" is two totally different results. The first means stealth, it means you don't even have a firewall rule (IPF) in place. The second means you DO, but some computer is blocking the connexion, that includes the computer living inside the 205.
Send me your exported config (SAVE first) and I'll have a look (remind me of your objective, too!)
matanza, the generic recipes (adapted for port 22) should work fine. I just probed you on port 22, and it NOT stealthed, simply refused, so either your NAT rule is incorrect, or the puter running the ssh server isn't accepting connexions (or ssh isn't running)
Thanks Tynee, it sounds like you have maxed out your IP session table, that's just my first thought. Ensure you have applied the Max IP Session tweak, and check your prefs inside eDonkey. I'm not familiar with it, but eMule (which accesses same ED2K network, and more) has something called "KAD" which almost instantly achieves the same result, disabling the KAD network fixes it.
See if there's some way to limit the application's total connexions. Also ensure you aren't going above 80% upload capacity (which equates to roughly 25kb/s for a BT line). This will kill your connexions, too.
Pseudopath load this page with all the comments. I know there's a lot (hope you got a capable browser!), but a quick search for "vpn" will yield possibly useful results.
crusti, I feel for ya dude! mail me your config (save first (advanced pages) or "commit" from a telnet session before exporting the config), remind me exactly what you're trying to do, and I'll see if I can track down your problems. I can mail you back an "improved" version, which you can upload to the router.
JamesO, I remember looking into this, didn't I mail you some commmands to try? Any joy with those? The NAT global command (above) but with "disable" would be choice, too.
Another possibility is to create one BIG NAT rule to simply redirect everything to the next router in line, but then we have the IP Session table unnecessarily limiting your LAN. Let me know about the commands. We could even get together and try a few things out. it *should* be doable, but the documentation is scant, to say the least.
Stephen, I just probed your port 80... success!!!
for now..
;o)
the rant about BT was a warning to others, i gave up with them months ago, im have given up trying to open a port for the moment
first i have some backingup to do, then i will try again after a format/reinstall
Another warining, is NOT to upgrade your browsers, each time you log in - it will Download shit you dont need, and extra pages on tabs, using up your precious data LIMITS, (the robbing bastards) so dont do it folks
stick to your basic 'internet explorer' and 'outlook express' or what ever you choose
i could moan for england about the run around BT gave me, they told me i could host anything i wanted when i joined, so after a few months of asking for help (to try and host a game) with no results, just a simple email telling me the admin/admin password asked for my money back and they said it possible to host but BT dont support it, so now im stuck with them untill october :(
crusti
crusti
good rant that one man!!
barney
hi first time postin, site very helpfull but could anyone tell me how to open port 6665 on my voyager 205 so i can play pro evo soccer online
thanx g bonehil
Yeah guys, you're dead right, BT technical support sucks big-time.
I've noticed, over the years, requests and "suggestions" that can obviously and instantly improve the bottom-line are adopted fairly quickly (like, what about "pay for broadband with your phone bill" - payment of which you can protected by threat of disconnexion, under one year), but vauge ideals like "satisfied customers" seem to fall on deaf ears (what about a "pre-recorded helpline of common solutions" - eh?)
They need to invest in capable staff or else suffer large when uk broadband market becomes saturated and connected folk start to think about "migration".
g bonehil, check out the generic rules on the recipes page (links at very top of this page), replacing the port number and IP with whatever you need.
shit, is that the time?
;o)
Hi,
What a great set of documentation.
My problem at the moment is that I have lost the power adapter for my BT Voyager 205, (sob)
Can anyone point me in a likely direction. I have tried BT's website. It's obsolete as far as they are concerned.
Thank for your help.
Andrew.
exellent reading but im not that clever to follow it to the word but im working on it.thanks.....ps.do you do house calls lol
hey Andrew, any standard 7.5V (@ 1AMP ie 7.5VA -ish) DC adaptor will do the trick. I often see those multi-adaptors for around a fiver, that would work fine.
naruto , that all depends where your house is!
;o)
ps.. correction, it's 16V @ 1A (16VA) (but something close enough would be okay)
Hi Cor,
Thanks for your reply! Yes I tried enable bridging, it makes no difference how 205 help docs say:
"If you enable bridging on an interface that has already been assigned an IP address, then it is considered IP-enabled and will route (rather than bridge) IP packets received on the interface. The interface will bridge non-IP data it receives, however."
I tried disabling the global NAT, and I loose the internet connection to the puters. I guess we need a way of just getting the damn 205 to act as moden only, f the rest! I remember reading somewhere that there are unresolved issues with the 205 and BT Communicator. I imagine the issues are the same as both are SIP VoIP.
I wish I just go out and find an ASDL ethernet modem only that works with PPPoA, all the modems only are USB junk. The only reason I went with BT is that they provided a Etherner Modem...."DOH!"
Live and learn...
Drop me an email M8,
Hi Folks
Excellent site loads of info for the router. plenty of tips that you don't get from the offical sources.
Any ideas how to get VPN working on the 205?
is it bst to conenct via USB or Ethernet to the router for this?
Have fun
Steven
Voyager 205 Firmware update ver 1.6 download.
http://www.voyager.bt.com/205/btbroadband/firmware_update.htm
Yo Cor,
Just got a shocker the VoIP tech who is trying to help sort this from Canada just phoned me to say he logged into my router! In the configuration mgr, security, IP FILTER is OFF, INTRUSION CONTROL is OFF, but MGT CONTROL is not activated for any IP and there are no ticks for WAN access only WAN!
When I turned the IP FILTER to MEDIUM he was cut off and could no longer log in. So leaving the IP filter off seems to leave the 205 WFO!!!
BTW I used your generic recipe to open TCP/UDP port 5060 (SIP) and UDP 5000-5004 and forwarded these to 192.168.1.6 (DVC) Shields up says 5060 is now open but 5000-5004 are not and either "closed" or "stealthed". Any suggestions?
Also seems rules only work when IP filter is enabled. Otherwise port are closed.
yeah, JamesO, that's what I mean by "perhaps they wanted to drop in sometime", meaning BT. As for the ports, remember, you'll only get open (success!!) if you have a listening server on the probed port, otherwise you'll get closed. Also, I note that it is UDP, very few online probes will do UDP testing. There are a couple, worth a google.
As for the bridging, it's true, we only want to be dealing with Layer 2 traffic (or is it layer one, damn! I knew I should have never read that bloody Cisco manual!). Have you tried creating your ethernet interface without an IP address?
Hmm, I wonder, is zipb mode any use? The reference manual (P.50) says..
Advantages of the ZIPB mode.
Configuring the modem in the ZIPB mode:
Looks useful. There's certainly a lot of stuff in the manual about bridging, but mostly seems to apply to non-PPPoA setups. I can't really test any of it, though, so we'll have to suck-it-and-see!
steven, load this page with all the comments. I know there's a lot (hope you got a capable browser!), but a quick search for "vpn" will yield possibly useful results. <- copied from my post, up the page a bit. Your right about one thing, this is definitely the unofficial viking chipset page!
for now..
;o)
ps.. the BT firmware page link is in the "Useful Links.." section, above these comments!
me again, just a quick question. Is there any way within the router itself or with a application to measure the amount i download from the internet? The reason i ask is that i am think about changing my ISP at the moment i pay £20 a month for 512k speed, unlimited broadband. But for the same price i have seen 2 gig broadband BUT with a 15 gig download limit. So i am hopeing that i can measure how much i download a month and therefore see if it would be cost effective to change ISP's.
thanks
sure, just login to the main front page at http://192.168.1.1 and you can see your totals, in bytes! (rebooting the router will reset the totals, I think, perhaps even reconnecting to BT, I haven't really paid attention to the numbers. I'll check next time I reboot/disconnect)
If you run *nix machines, perhaps you could install darkstat (or something similar) on the machines and gather totals there. There's bound to similar things for windows.
For what it's worth, I'd rather have the 512kb/xGB than the 2MB/15GB deal. 512kb/s is a tad slow for certain occasional things (one user streaming video will eat the lot), but 15GB is always gonna be too small, at least for me. It depends on how you use the internet. 2MB is nice, but I know I'm gonna feel it when my 30GB/mo comes into effect in a few weeks.
BT will have a page on which you can check your usage, you will be expected to believe this page. Also, copious email reminders will litter your inbox, sort of a countdown.
My ideal broadband package would have 1MB/s down, 512kb/s up, and 50GB/month quota. I wonder if BT are reading today..
;o)
perhaps useful..
http://www.bt.com/broadbandusage/
;o)
thanks aot great help i think i am going to measure my usage for one month and then decide. (Sorry for mulitple posts, didnt know that hitting the refresh button done that)
Hi,
Your pages a great help, but the feckin 205 beastie has to be powered down then back up before it establishes a connection. I have set the various DNS settings, stealth rules, Static IP address (only one machine) etc, but, although it maintains a connection - which was the original hassle I was having - I still can't connect without powering down/up.
Any ideas?
brian
Cor, exactly how do I send my config file to you? (email address pls?)
Brian, assuming you are connected with ethernet, this is very unusual. we'll need more information. I suggest opening a telnet session with the router, and leaving it open. report back what errors you get. I'd be interested in looking at your config file, too.
Jon, my email address? Just click my smiley on any of the pages on-site. tada! (sometimes it's my smiley, sometimes it's my name underneath) you can also click my big smiley in the toolbar (top-right) to get my contact page, which has LOADS of ways of getting $hit to me.
;o)
ps.. if you look at the source code for any of my pages, you'll see that my email address is "mashed", which prevents me getting spammed, which is why I don't just drop it here in the body text.
Thanks cor,
I will do this and post over the weekend.
Further info is that YES I do have an ethernet connection. When I fire up the machine, and after XPSP2 gets itself organised, I see an open Ethernet connection.
When I access the Internet, thru my own account (Admin priv)I get a 'sod off, can't view this page offline...' screen. Once I have powered the router down then back up, I can connect without hassle, and stay on-line.
My machine is not on a domain - I only have other users on the same machine connecting. If I log on as another user and try to get an Internet connection BEFORE logging on as myself it will not let me/that user connect, BUT if I log on as another user AFTER having connected thru my own account, it's fine. (other users are both admin priv too). Feckin computers (PS I work in IT!!)
BT Openworld are scanning your connection with this very Router that they provide...and killing your internet connection, as soon as you connect to any p2p app.
They are getting smarter....but not that smart.
Im finay going to order my switch now, im just going to pick one up off ebay seen one on ebay exactly the same as yours. Would you recommend it?
Hi Cor, So basically the Security MGT control means nothing if WAN access to the 205 is wide open! Any this rather urgent, after upgrading to Ver1.6 I cannot telnet the 205. I can enter the user, but it does accept any keyboard input for the password. I even rest to default config.
1) Any solutions?
VoIP techs were trying to recreate a new entry on NAT/Virtual Server DMZ to forward very packet to port 5060/udp to your DVC IP 192.168.1.3, they could not do it properly from their end.
2) If I can get in by telnet, Can you create a recipe for me to do this?
RE Bridging:
It seems I cannot kill the LAN IP for the bridge mode on eth-0 because that is for 192.168.1.1 the 205 itself.
3) ZIPB mode where do I try this?
Looking forward to sorting this?
Cheers tech dude
JAmes
HELP!!! I followed your hacking advice and updated my router's security settings etc. Now I cannot sync my iPAQ with Avantgo (sync.avantgo.com port 80). How do I allow that on the firewall or whatever?
brian, my first hunch is that WinXP is doing something funky with the UPnP, and messing it up. Disable the UPnP service in Windows, both of them. And did I mention my handy troubleshooting checklist? Probably.
The internet connexion on the voyager, when using ethernet at least, works independently of any computer, even with all my computers switched off, my internet is still there! A switch box helps with this, and yes, Jack, I recommend my unit, but of course I would, it's been absolutely solid since I plugged it in about three years ago, working hard ever since.
Fort the record; My switch box is a Chinese-made "NWay" 5-Port Switch I got for £20, back when such things were £40 (now they are £10!) It's got all the usual clever internals, automatic cable detection, back-pressure flow control, auto-negotiation and all that jazz, and came in a completely recyclable "egg-box" carton (No Polystyrene!) which endeared me to the unit immediately. Previous to this, I'd been messing about with null cables and living in networking hell. Plugging it in literally changed my life. Money well spent. It even came with a wee printed manual! Ahhh...
It sounds like your XP internet settings need help, Brian, I'd recommend a nice static IP, and exactly duplicate those settings for each and every user's desktop. It sounds like the admin account is okay, so use that as a base. Ensure DHCP is OFF on the router, too.
Jonas, that's at least partly consipiracy theory. The router itself has certain limits, yes, but it's not responding to P2P in particular, just volumes of data, the number of connexions. BT might want to drop in, yes. BT might want to implement certain traffic-shaping measures upstream in their own routers, but our lowly 205's are just doing what they are told, preferably, told by us, which is why we are here.
BT can't stop P2P, no one can (the proof), but it's within their rights to try and lessen the impact on other users of their network, we can simply switch ISP if we don't agree. BitTorrent seems to the most elusive P2P app, hardest to find and block, by the way. A tracker can be created, a torrent swarmed, and completed, vanished before anyone has a clue what happened. Back to business..
JamesO, yikes! Is that the firmware from my archives? I had no such problems. You may want to attempt to upload a nice clean cfg file to the router (it reboots immediately on upload) I might put together a selection of these, sort of; "basic setup + WinMX", or whatever, with all the important stuff already done! You may also want to consider re-flashing the 1.6 firmware.
For pure bridging, in theory, the eth-0 can be created without an IP, but like you say, that means you couldn't reach it there from the LAN, but if you ever needed in, you could always plug (GASP!) a USB cable in and reach it from there.
I'm uploading (right now) an updated technical reference manual. It's quite large (4.4MB), but if you have the updated firmware, it's worth a look, there's lots of info about ZipB mode, for starters. In the public archives, named.. "SAR130extra2.1notes-for_viking_v1.6+_firmware.pdf"
And your VoIP rule will look something like this..
create ipf rule entry ruleid 5060 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq udp destport eq num 5060 seclevel high medium low
create nat rule entry ruleid 5060 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.3 lcladdrto 192.168.1.3 destportfrom num 5060 destportto num 5060
Final thought: I realise that networking is still something of a black art, even to many professionals, and that the technology has a long way to go towards being user-friendly, but consider; the things we can do now with a free box from our ISP, hardware firewalls and routing, secure NATs, port-forwarding, not to mention goodies like automatic DDNS, just a few years ago, would have required serious resources and technical skill to implement.
Sure it's frustrating sometimes, but all doable, and really, when you think about it, quite incredible.
for now..
;o)
ps.. Uncle Bob! Is it it really you Uncle Bob?
But if you go to the recipes page, and try the web server recipe, you should be back in business! I'm presuming you need an incoming port 80 connexion, though I've no idea why you would. Have fun! Let us know how it goes.
On the other hand, how and where do you check if the firewall is on or off and what its settings are?
i cannot do anything thats on this site it keeps asking for a username and password how do i get past this?
your help would be much appriciated
no problem Bob, I suspected something was amiss (there's no such thing as coincedence). Look on the bright, now you got it all setup and secure, AND everything works!
rob, easy! simply enter the username and password! TADA!
(the usual one, mentioned in main article (above), and the other pages, too!)
;o)
ps.. bob, try the selectors above the comments here, main security settings are at http://192.168.1.1/MainPage?id=19
Thanks cor i looked further on in your instructions and found this anyway.
I have one main question that might stem in to serveral others
first of all Iam an IT helpdesk beginner and I am still learning I suppose so are most people in the technology industry
I have downloaded Realvnc which as you may know is software to enable me to remote in to anyboadys PC as long as they have a) the same software b) no firewall and c) no passwords or things like that.
Iam trying to turn off the firewall or can I enable this certain product in and out access to my PC. Its a Voyager205 would it be better to use the Windows XP firewall instead or both. Is this wise or not. all i want to do is use Realvnc to help my father in law and untie to do things while im at work if they have any problems, what do you recomend.
Thanks if you can help I will be very happy.
sorry for the essay.
rob
Hey rob! essay is good! more info is always better than less!
VNC is a fine tool, so long as they have a) a VNC server running, b) a GOOD Firewall, and c) a VERY STRONG PASSWORD.
VNC uses port 5900 by default (I think), you will want to change that at the server (Father-in-Law's) end, and use the same port at your end, too, of course. To get through the router, create a regular port-forwarding rule-pair, like the generic ones on the recipe's page, using whatever port you want. (he has a 205? yeah?)
Ensure your FiL's VNC server has a VERY STRONG password. I can't stress this enough. If some script-kiddie stumbles across your FiL's VNC server and discovers the password, he will have complete and total control of your FiL's desktop. Think about it.
Most VNC server's allow you to create temporary sessions, with once-only passwords, good for an hour or so. You might want to consider getting together first on IRC (a DCC chat, perhaps) and only using the VNC server on an occasional basis. KDE (on Linux) has all this built-in, rather handy, and I use it to control my main Linux box, where Azureus lives.
If you have any other firewalls running at the server end, you will need to punch a hole through on whatever port you chose, this is usually called "creating a service" on the firewall, or just "opening a port", perhaps (I'm dropping in these juicy easy terms to pass onto your FiL, he'll need to open the port without you!)
This only needs to be done on the machine running the VNC server, AND its router/gateway.
Feel free to ask more questions, I'm in the mood for fast typing today.
;o)
Cor your a ledgend
No FiL does not have a V205 a wannado broadband standard box
is there a way i can get in there and set up my FiLs password for him and if so what do you mean by strong password like lots of carracters i have a standard Pc and run Windows XP i have done a few of your tips like
create nat rule entry ruleid 6881 rdr prot num 6 lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.3 lcladdrto 192.168.1.3 destportfrom num 6881 destportto num 6889
and also modify nbsize maxipsess 512
what excatly do they do, does the last one speed up the connection? i also have done the one for winmx but not sure if things have sped up i mean it stills goes through the traffic light set up bit.
is there any thing else i can do to speed the connection up and is it the create ipf rule entry ruleid 5 dir out act accept storestate enable seclevel high medium low
that i have to set the port for the RealVnc to work?
Legend? shhh! the folk here don't know bout dat!
Set his password for him? Not easily. Get him to use a word you both would know but wouldn't have to say out loud, I mean, something you would know only by giving clues, like "my sister's dog's name".
Once you are in, you can alter whatever settings you need. My first thought was, in fact, "use RDC!", but I must have presumed that you couldn't use RDC (Remote Desktop Connection) for some reason. Can you? If he has XP installed (or 2000 pro with terminal services) you could do exactly the same thing with RDC. Simply get the RDC client software from M$ and get him to create a user for you on the system.
The downside is that you can't share the desktop in the same way you can with VNC, it's basically him or you. Worth considering, though, and more responsive in use.
As for the router rules, I recommend you go step-by-step through the pages here and setup a stealthed router with simple rules for whatever P2P/servers you need, static IP, etc. There's a checklist at the foot of the troubleshooter page which definitely helps with this.
You only need to create port-forwarding rules on the machine running the server (which applies to web, FTP, VNC, P2P apps, whatever). The first stealth rule (id 5) takes care of ALL outgoing traffic.
have fun!
;o)
oh, yeah, the passwords..
weak: "God", "sex", "admin", "<name of someone you know>", "<date of birth>", etc.
strong: "fJh58^gh@@2jF16" or "095++2BbAuQ}£~#fo0", or whatever.
for now..
;o)
ps.. DO NOT use my "example" strong passwords, by being published on the web, they are no longer strong
ps.. a very clever person I know (me) uses passwords based on interesting shapes on the keyboard, things that can be typed very very quickly. I don't know what many of my own passwords look like!
I learned this was smart after having my first account on an old VAX machine stolen by some dickweed looking over my shoulder as I s l o w l y typed in my akward password.
My own system passwords are a complex blur of finger motion that not even a hidden camera could catch!
;o)
hello again Cor im not have any success at all this is iam afraid over my head i have done everything you have said in the troubleshooting guide at the bottom and i have tried to test to see if port 5900 is open and it has come back and said connection refused what do i need to type in the telnet thing to get port 5900 open please help me im getting stressed
is it true that my ip address keeps changing or is it just me? is there a way just to turn the firewall off this voyager205? do you have an email address that i can email i think that it would be quicker that way
thanks again
rob
Hi.
Despite reading this help guide i still cannot get a program called dameware to connect to the internet in anyway or form.
Any ideas or help would be greatly appreciated guys :-)
Thanks
Neil
Hi
Trying to add the hacks you have up on this site but i cant get past the first stage. How do i open up a telenet session with my router if it is not at 192.168.0.1 ? Mine is at 192.168.0.2 thank you
rob, remember, you'll only get success if you have a listening server running on that port. You have a VNC server running on your machine, too?
IP changing? Which one? The public IP (Yes, every time you reconnect to BT), or the Private IP? (192.168.1.something, No, shouldn't, not if DHCP is disabled on the router)
Without the firewall running on the router, you can't forward any ports.
Neil, simply create a regular port-forwarding rule for port 6129. The genric rules on the recipes page are what you need, just replace the IP and port with whatever you need. Remember you'll need to disable other firewalls, like the XP firewall, or else create a rule to allow dameware, like this. I'm presuming you've setup the router, as per these pages.
Jack, open a DOS box (prompt, window, whateveryoucallit) and type
telnet 192.168.1.2or whatever the address is. Keep a shortcut handy in your browser's bookmarks.for now..
;o)
Hi Cor,
Looking forward to this ZIP B mode, but first I need to telnet the box and it will not accept any keyboard input for the password at all. Works fine for login, but dead as though the keyboard was not even connected, except the enter command. Then login fails, and returns to user: I reuploaded a clean Ver 1.6 from BT and f...k all no results. Very odd. I can login to the advanced confirguation page, but not telnet.
I realise its a good box when for free, but I don't think I need DDNS and I only want my VoIP to work properly, as I need the USA inline for business.
Hoping for the sort!
Cheers
James
Hi Cor just found the site and it's brilliant. My problem is my netgear DM602 will not allow pop email port 110 to connect is there any way to open the port manually or hack the router to allow this traffic through ?
great website, can anyone tell me, what power adaptor is required to power this from AC, I've just moved into a new house, where they've left this for broadband use, but NO PSU!
voltage, polarity, and ampage would be good. Is this on original battery eliminator/power adaptor?
hey JamesO, it looks like the keyboard isn't working, but that's normal for shell password entry. just enter the password as normal, and press <enter>.
alan, stealth rule one will allow all outgoing traffic. If you need to allow incoming traffic to a POP server, simply use the generic rule from the recipes page, swapping in port 110, and the static IP of the machine running your POP server.
Andy, check the previous page of comments, someone had a similar problem. I think it was 7.5V @ 1AMP, but check anyway! I dunno what the polarity is, usually the center is + and the sheath is -. I could unplug mine (*gasp*) and check, if you like, but generally speaking, getting it wrong isn't usually fatal (don't quote me on that!) and you just swap it and it works! Thanks heavens for diodes!
have fun!
;o)
is that 7.5v on the original psu, as the manual states 18 volts! @600mA.
nope, tried 7.5v, 9.0v and 12.0v it does the same thing, it starts up, Power LED Green Lit, and then Diag, DSL, Ethernet and USB all flash once, and then Ethernet and USB Light and go off.
Doesn't get recognises if I plug in USB to computer and ethernet light doesn't light if plugged in.
Success.
For further people who lose, blow-up, don't have the battery eliminator, you must use a PSU with 18 VOLTS, that can supply at least 600mA! If you use anything less than this, it will start-up and reboot etc
But, if you have an old (very) Ext PSU from a US Robotics External Modem, no problems, they were 18v!
haha, if in doubt, turn up the juice!
I ventured under the desk again for a closer look. Yikes!
In fact, the power pack states 16V @ 1A (16VA)!!! I must have been looking at my switch box power unit the first time around
;o)
i read the manual! 18v!
you got a manual?
;o)
i need help i dont have clue how to get my router to let me play games etc :S
Hey, I'm trying to run the Bit Torrent Client Azureus, I have done the rule commands that you supplied, and I have changed your IP address to mine. I set the port for Azureus to use as 49210, but when I download a torrent, my download speeds are still around 8-9kb/s Please help, these speeds are unbarable!
beefy, start with these fine pages! I guarantee, by the time you've finished them, you'll know a helluva lot more about port-forwarding!
Alex[RM-UK], first, confirm you have checked every item on the checklist. And the IP, is that really you? 192.168.1.something?
Azzy is grabbing for me right now, at a neck-breaking 230kb/s (a busy torrent) so that's what you're aiming for. something's definitely not right if you're only getting 9kb/s! Also, try a few torrents, older, dying torrents sometimes do go at that speed!
I'd be remiss in my duty as a torenteer, if I didn't take the opportunity to say, once again.. If everyone seeded just 1:1, no torrent would ever die.
;o)
when I export the config in the web interface nothing happens!
I am using the Voyager 205 on USB (ethernet for xbox), and i am trying to set up port forwarding for emule (TCP-4662, UDP-4672). Can someone email me a step by step guide from scratch to unlock these ports ?
Marc.Lane@tiscali.co.uk
I am not very technical so be gentle on me please.
I assume my ip using the usb is 192.168.1.2 ?
Thanks peeps.
Hi there, first I'd like to say what a helpful site this is. I had no idea what to do but now I can set up port forwarding etc easily. The only thing is I have a problem :o( basically, every time I try to change the DHCP mode to off it comes up "Fails to perform the specified action..." and " Error: Invalid command", this also happens when I try to add my own server pool. I have a horrible suspicion this might have been put in place by BT to stop me setting up a static IP, if this is the case are there any ways around it? Any help appreciated :o)
Should have tried using IE instead of firefox first, doh! Still an excellent site though, wouldn't have been able to do any of this without it!
Hi
Ok, i've been invited onto Gmail.I'd been using netscape 7 on FC3 (i'd have preferred to use thunderbird, but the BT pop & smtp server don't support it - BUMMER why? I think yahoo don't like open-source). Anyway, I got to thinking one way round for me get round yahoo and BTs' restrictions on thunderbird, would be "centralize" all my e-mail accounts that i seem to have accumulated over the years onto gmail (that way I can leave ALL my mail on the Gmail 2GIG account they offer - that yahoo don't - and in the bargin get e-mailed mp3 tracks from friends). To cut a long story short, I need to open ports ports 995 (pop.gmail.com) & 465 (smtp.gmail.com). I tried the guid on this site and then tested it using the this sites' port scanner - which returned "connection refused" ... anyone out there have a similar promlem. Appreciate if they could get in touch. Cheers. :-)
hi seems a good site from comments.im not having much luck with my voyager 205 and shareaza.i ve followed instructions to stealth and nat rules.i have a static ip 192.168.1.40. but when i start shareaza
its still telling me im behind nat or firewall(im not using a firewall by the way).when i made rule for both nat and firewall,i copy/pasted from here but changed to my ip.do i need dhcp mode off always or just when setting static ip?also can tell me more bout disabling blacklist as u say something bout it for port probing.
hope u can help me,im missing my quick fast d/ls
thanks peeps
hey Cor =D
I'm lost again lol xD
I just Downloaded Ares, but it's different to all other p2ps, when it starts up it randomly selects a port to listen on, and you cant change the range of ports, to change it, you have to goto the control panel after its started up, and enter the port you want it to listen on, but when i do this with a port i already have forwarded, i tried a few BT ports, 6881 etc, i get connection refused on your p2p probe =S you got any idea whats up??
Thanx,
Bael
hi!
sandy, it did! It just looks like it didn't, check your default download location, it'll likely be there.
Marc, I recommend you get an ethernet switch and connect them both by ethernet. Have you seen the recipes page? Check it out! There's an eMule recipe right there! We don't do USB here, but I presume the commands for port forwarding would be the same. Don't expect it to work very well, though, eMule+USB=Trouble.
Dan if you mean the WAN (Internet) side, of course you can't alter that. If you mean LAN side (your home network), it should be easy to disable it. Confirm for me that you are trying the latter, see pop-up admin page selector pages 8 & 11.
zaffarc (hey, you want me to leave your email address as plain text on my page? Probably not a good idea!) Firstly, Thunderbird works great with BT/Yahoo, and is well supported. What gave you this crazy idea?
Secondly, you don't need to open port to communicate OUT, only for allowing others to connect IN to your machine. Ergo, you don't need to forward ports to use Gmail.
From thunderbird I run; several BT/Yahoo mail accounts, my Gmail account (thanks barney!), and Hotmail accounts, as well as my regular gmx and other POP accounts. (an associate here also runs Yahoo Webmail from the bird)
All my accounts use the same inbox, same folders, same set of filters, etc, etc. Maybe you just need to play with the bird a bit more.
jamie, for now, all I'll say is; run through the checklist at the foot of the troubleshooter page, ensure everything is ticked, and try again. Get right back here if you're still in difficulty.
Bael, that's strange, my version (1.8.1.2955) of Ares allows me to specify a port (I use the same one as my peecee BT port, good call!) and it works fine, and if I have Ares running, the port probe says "sucess!!!", too.
What about the connexion test in Ares? Does that pass? I can't remember your setup, but it sounds like there's another firewall somewhere, assuming you're setup as per checklist.
Also, avoid the 68** ports (BitTorrent) altogether, use 49000+ typr numbers instead.
for now..
;o)
Please could anyone tell me if there is a way to get this modem to work with linux
when i used the telnet,i entered a code...then it kinda freezed...since then i can't login as an administrator:I had set up a new login and password and it wont accept them...
Any ideas?...can i reset the program so i can start with admin/admin...
hey thax for quick reply.well i went thu troubleshoot and i never changed dhpc to none.so now i get SUCCESS at ur helpfull port probe page.however,when i run shareaza now i get poor search results still!also i cant connect to anything else while i run it.grrrr
cant see anything wrong with shaza settings.im stumped.do u have any idea whats up?
thanx
Well forgot to precise...but obviously uninstalling/reinstalling the software didn't work...any advice would be very welcome as i need to be able to access the configuration menu and it's very frustating not to be able to do it anymore...
yeyy...now it works...(sorry for the double post by the way)
I've been trying for hours to open the ports tcp 4662 udp 4672 on my bt voyager 2100,but nothing works.
I'm using emule and always get a low id.If anyone could give me some advice that would be more than welcome.thanks
I've been experiencing dropouts for about the last month or so with BT Broadband even after uninstalling all p2p software. Sometimes the dropouts will happen around 5 in the evening all the way up to around 9, other times it seems random. What happens is a webpage will stop loading and after about a minute or so, I will be able to connect again. During that minute I can still get to the admin page for the router itself.
I've called them on numerous occasions. They have checked the line and at the exchange server and have not found any faults. I have an engineer scheduled to come out tomorrow, but I'm afraid that the engineer will not find anything either.
I am using the ethernet cable. I have tried using the usb cable and have experienced the same problem. I have swapped microfilters and only have one phone connected to the line. I have not found any spyware or viruses on the computer. I have no firewalls running other than the one already on the router. The disconnects have happened using the default settings and the settings you recommend on this site. I am also using version 1.6 of the firmware.
I have copied my telnet session here, in hopes that this would shed some light on my problem. This is only a sample of what happened over the night up until 4:30 in the morning.
$
Sun Apr 17 00:53:32 2005 : WARNING : PPP Interface Down : Interface - ppp-0
$
Sun Apr 17 00:53:32 2005 : WARNING : ATM VC Down : Interface - aal5-0, PortId=7, Vpi=0, Vci=38
$
Sun Apr 17 00:53:32 2005 : MAJOR ALARM : DSL Interface Down
$
Sun Apr 17 00:54:05 2005 : STATUS ALARM : ATM Interface Up : Interface - atm-0
Sun Apr 17 00:54:05 2005 : STATUS ALARM : ATM VC Up : Interface - aal5-0, PortId =7, Vpi=0, Vci=38
Sun Apr 17 00:54:05 2005 : STATUS ALARM : DSL Interface Up
$
Sun Apr 17 00:54:26 2005 : STATUS ALARM: PPP Authorization Successful : Interface - ppp-0
$
Sun Apr 17 00:54:27 2005 : STATUS ALARM : PPP Interface Up : Interface - ppp-0
$
Sun Apr 17 00:59:07 2005 : MAJOR ALARM : ATM Interface Down : Interface - atm-0
$
Sun Apr 17 00:59:07 2005 : WARNING : PPP Interface Down : Interface - ppp-0
$
Sun Apr 17 00:59:07 2005 : WARNING : ATM VC Down : Interface - aal5-0, PortId=7, Vpi=0, Vci=38
Sun Apr 17 00:59:07 2005 : MAJOR ALARM : DSL Interface Down
$
Sun Apr 17 00:59:25 2005 : STATUS ALARM : ATM Interface Up : Interface - atm-0
Sun Apr 17 00:59:25 2005 : STATUS ALARM : ATM VC Up : Interface - aal5-0, PortId=7, Vpi=0, Vci=38
Sun Apr 17 00:59:25 2005 : STATUS ALARM : DSL Interface Up
$
Sun Apr 17 00:59:46 2005 : STATUS ALARM: PPP Authorization Successful : Interface - ppp-0
$
Sun Apr 17 00:59:47 2005 : STATUS ALARM : PPP Interface Up : Interface - ppp-0
$
Sun Apr 17 01:04:27 2005 : MAJOR ALARM : ATM Interface Down : Interface - atm-0
$
Sun Apr 17 01:04:27 2005 : WARNING : PPP Interface Down : Interface - ppp-0
$
Sun Apr 17 01:04:27 2005 : WARNING : ATM VC Down : Interface - aal5-0, PortId=7, Vpi=0, Vci=38
Sun Apr 17 01:04:27 2005 : MAJOR ALARM : DSL Interface Down
$
Sun Apr 17 01:05:08 2005 : STATUS ALARM : ATM Interface Up : Interface - atm-0
Sun Apr 17 01:05:08 2005 : STATUS ALARM : ATM VC Up : Interface - aal5-0, PortId=7, Vpi=0, Vci=38
Sun Apr 17 01:05:08 2005 : STATUS ALARM : DSL Interface Up
$
Sun Apr 17 01:05:29 2005 : STATUS ALARM: PPP Authorization Successful : Interface - ppp-0
$
Sun Apr 17 01:05:29 2005 : STATUS ALARM : PPP Interface Up : Interface - ppp-0
$
Sun Apr 17 01:10:10 2005 : MAJOR ALARM : ATM Interface Down : Interface - atm-0
$
Sun Apr 17 01:10:10 2005 : WARNING : PPP Interface Down : Interface - ppp-0
$
Sun Apr 17 01:10:10 2005 : WARNING : ATM VC Down : Interface - aal5-0, PortId=7, Vpi=0, Vci=38
Sun Apr 17 01:10:10 2005 : MAJOR ALARM : DSL Interface Down
$
Sun Apr 17 01:10:28 2005 : STATUS ALARM : ATM Interface Up : Interface - atm-0
Sun Apr 17 01:10:28 2005 : STATUS ALARM : ATM VC Up : Interface - aal5-0, PortId=7, Vpi=0, Vci=38
Sun Apr 17 01:10:28 2005 : STATUS ALARM : DSL Interface Up
$
Sun Apr 17 01:10:49 2005 : STATUS ALARM: PPP Authorization Successful : Interface - ppp-0
$
Sun Apr 17 01:10:49 2005 : STATUS ALARM : PPP Interface Up : Interface - ppp-0
$
Sun Apr 17 01:15:30 2005 : MAJOR ALARM : ATM Interface Down : Interface - atm-0
$
Sun Apr 17 01:15:30 2005 : WARNING : PPP Interface Down : Interface - ppp-0
$
Sun Apr 17 01:15:30 2005 : WARNING : ATM VC Down : Interface - aal5-0, PortId=7, Vpi=0, Vci=38
Sun Apr 17 01:15:30 2005 : MAJOR ALARM : DSL Interface Down
$
Sun Apr 17 01:16:10 2005 : STATUS ALARM : ATM Interface Up : Interface - atm-0
Sun Apr 17 01:16:10 2005 : STATUS ALARM : ATM VC Up : Interface - aal5-0, PortId=7, Vpi=0, Vci=38
Sun Apr 17 01:16:10 2005 : STATUS ALARM : DSL Interface Up
$
Sun Apr 17 01:16:32 2005 : STATUS ALARM: PPP Authorization Successful : Interface - ppp-0
$
Sun Apr 17 01:16:32 2005 : STATUS ALARM : PPP Interface Up : Interface - ppp-0
$
Sun Apr 17 01:21:12 2005 : MAJOR ALARM : ATM Interface Down : Interface - atm-0
The only programs I was running over the night was Skype, AIM and Yahoo Messenger.
Sorry for such a long post, but this problem has been plaguing me for far too long. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Hi Cor
its me back again
ive started again, this time with out the BT shite in the way,
but i still get "connexion timed out (probably stealthed)"from your portprobe.
can i send you my config file? see if you can see what im doing worng??
cheers Crusti
I have happily followed and implemented all the lovely instructions and tips on here and have decided that this router is the worst piece of hardware anyone ever invented. It's useless!
I'm not a stranger to IP tables and port forwarding, in fact it is what I do as an unpaid job for people who need help with various things, but this particular piece of hardware really is useless.
Whatever I set for Emule, the minute I switch it on, I can't surf..or use msn or anything. It's not my uploads speed, I set that to 0.5kps for testing, the router just can't handle multiple concurrent connections.
It also does the same using Mercury msn on Linux, mercury = on.. connection= GONE.
I'm putting my homemade router back on and disabling NAT on the 205 for an easier life.
This site is so much appreciated..My 205 would be smashed by now if it wasnt for you lol!!
LOL, Well put dave
ahh, gotta love Sundays!
phill , no problem! The 205 connects to the internet independant of any machine, so it doesn't matter what platform you use, so long as you have an ethernet connexion. Check out the static IP page for more details (links at the top of this page)
david, glad it all worked out! don't worry about the double post, almost everyone does it! and hey! surely you mean "send my 205 to cor for experiments" heheh. thanks guys!
jamie meet the max IP session limit! (more on this later) you really want to a) apply the max IP session limit tweak, b) use ethernet and c) tweak shareaza to use less connexions. I recommend eMule (but disable KAD!)
mark, I don't know the bt voyager 2100, do you have a command line manual? we could work out the commands easily enough if you do. If not, maybe google a bit?
cheva1ier, yikes! Have you applied the ppp tweaks from these pages? If not, do that! I'd like to see your config file, you can mail it to me if you want.
same for you crusti, no problem! It's become a "morning coffee break" activity now, looking at folk's router configs! But PLEASE add a full description of what you are trying to achieve WITH the config file.
EnemyOfThe205, I'm your number one fan!
If folk need a more serious solution, they can pay for it, but for FREE, the 205 is sufficient for most folks' needs. certainly, I've downloaded a *lot* of data in the last few months, all through the 205, and if the client machines are setup mindfully, its limits aren't so bad.
I was considering getting something beefier myself, but with the 30GB/month limit about to hit, it seems kinda pointless.
for now..
;o)
Sorry if my question sounds stupid.but is it possible to use a bt router abroad or is it just possible in the uk?...I'm going in france for 8 months in september and i wonder if my router will work there.
THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A STUPID QUESTION!
Yeah, in theory it should work okay. You'll need a local AC/DC adaptor, to supply 16VA (say 16V@1A or maybe 18V@750MA or something like that) and the ISP's settings will likely be different, check Makila's forum (link above these comments) for the French versions of these.
For the UK, it's..
DNS = auto
VPI = 0 (zero)
VCI = 38
Authentication = CHAP
Modulation = G.DMT
Encapsulation = VC MUX
Encapsulation Protocol = PPPoA
Just so you know what to look for! have fun!
;o)
hi again,i ve to what u last said and still nothing.has shareaza gone bust or something?anyway i give up.im going to try out emule now.thanx for your help.
tc
hi,installed emule,set the firewall rule and nat rule(copied your recipe).emule connects,but no downloads happening.disabled kad.ran emule port test and it fails every time.i ve once again been right through ur check list,well the whole of your site really,lol,and i cant figer this one out.must be something silly.
I just want to thank you for taking the time to write this guide.
It has helped me alot, very good work keep it up.
Hi cor i running a world of warcraft server but how do i get so ppl can connect to it atm in the files it has the lan ip 192.168.1.100 i also did firewall rules and forwarded the ports which are 3724 8080 8085 thanks
working back..
Stephen, folk can connect just fine. Your webserver (port 80), for instance, shows your root web folder with "modperl/", "modperlasp/", "wow/", and "xampp/" folders. success!
I haven't scanned any other ports, but if you've got port 80 working, the others should work just the same.
Alex thank you! Time is my most precious asset!
Jamie, yeah likely. Feel free to send me your config file if you like, and I can eliminate any silly things from there.
for now..
;o)
I am connected to TalkTalk B/Band and am trying to use my BT Voyager 205 ASDL Router to connect my mac and PC to the internet simultaneously. I have a naff wee Sagem modem that came free with the TalkTalk package and acquired the BT Router from a friend. I'm having major problems getting the router to recognise the existing TalkTalk connection. As of yet I have been unable to connect both platforms to the net @ the same time. Heeeeeeeeelp
Hamiee We'll need more information about your setup. Are you using the 205 to connect to the TalkTalk service? Or the sagem into the 205 and then to the other machines? Are you using an ethernet switch (highly recommended)? etc.
If it were me, I'd chuck the Sagem, configure the 205 to use TalkTalk's settings (check their site) and connect it to a switch, and the machines connect to that, too.
more info!
;o)
ps.. (when you refresh the page, doesn't it warn you that you are about to POST the comment again? all my browsers do!)
Hey, thanks for all the info on your site... helped a lot
I can't config SNMP to this H/W. How to config SNMP, I'm use XAVi X8124r.
H/W Detail :
Model: Viking
H/W Version: 810020
S/W Version: 3.959AVT1.8124A/138030917a2
Can I use SNMP on this machine?
Thx a lot.
I am having a few problems!
I am running Windows XP SP2. I know that there have been changes made to the TCP/IP stack in SP2.
I am using 2 file sharing progs: Shareaza and LimeWire. Both of these progs are causing me problems. Shareaza ( on port 6346 ) and Limewire ( on port 6348 ).
Sheraza is by far the worst, as when connected, within a few minutes I am unable to get function from Internet Exporer or Outlook Express ( send and receive ). Limewire will eventually cause the same fault if there is multiple downloads.
I know of 2 other people with a broadband connection who are running SP2 and do not appear to have this problem. However, in both cases a ADSl modem ( terminal adapter ) not a router is their connection device.
Is there some way to configure the voyager 205 in order to correct the problems I am having?
I have followed all the steps on your main page to reconfigure my router but I am still having problems.
Stevie
Hi Cor well in the config file for the game server i was reading on a router guide and says you put your wan ip in so ppl can connect i tryed that but i could not connect to the server only if i put the lan ip in
hi bk again!i ve copied my nat and firewall rules from the web interface after ive set it up for port 6346.it should still work if i dont hit that red save button,right?as it stays in that state till
i reboot router.
Rule ID I/F Apply Stateful Inspection Direction Rule Action In I/F Log Option Rule Description Oper. Status Action(s)
5 ALL Enable Outgoing Accept ALL Disable - Edit Detail Delete
6346 Public Disable Incoming Accept N/A Enable 1.Protocol eq TCP
2.TCP Flag All
3.Dest Port equal to 6346
Edit Detail Delete
6356 Public Disable Incoming Accept N/A Disable 1.Protocol eq UDP
2.Dest Port equal to 6346
Edit Detail Delete
500000 Public Disable Incoming Deny N/A Disable - Edit Detail Delete
Rule ID IF Name Rule Flavor Protocol Local IP From Local IP To Action
1 ppp-0 Virtual Server UDP 192.168.1.40 192.168.1.40 Delete Detail
2 ppp-0 Virtual Server TCP 192.168.1.40 192.168.1.40 Delete Detail
6346 ALL Virtual Server ANY 192.168.1.40 192.168.1.40 Delete Detail
6356 ALL Virtual Server ANY 192.168.1.40 192.168.1.40 Delete Detail
100000 ALL NAPT ANY 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 Delete Detail
hope thats ok!!:(
sorry for ddl post.
1 ppp-0 Virtual Server UDP 192.168.1.40 192.168.1.40
2 ppp-0 Virtual Server TCP 192.168.1.40 192.168.1.40
dont think these r supposed to b there.but when i delete them they pop back when i run shaz/emule
thanx
can someone give me a simple rule for iDent 113. I've been "playing" for hours, and the only way I can get it to work if disable Rule 500000 not a good idea! Followed port forwaring and doesn't work, another question, why does the telnet interface hang when I paste commands into it!
(it's okay with vb script!) firmware v1.6
Hi,
I am trying to configure my 205 to use Shareaza which uses port 6436 by default. I have set up a static IP address of 192.168.1.50 I have also "stealthed" my router as instructed.
I have allowed both a TCP and UDP IPF using the following commands:
create ipf rule entry ruleid 6436 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq tcp destport eq num 6436 seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 6446 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq udp destport eq num 6436 seclevel high medium low
I have created a NAT rule as follows:
create nat rule entry ruleid 6436 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.50 lcladdrto 192.168.1.50 destportfrom num 6436 destportto num 6436
The problem I am having is that as soon as I create the NAT rule I can no longer access any information on the internet (including the 205's page) let alone using Shareaza.
I also noted that the following message was posted in my Telnet session after creating the NAT rule:
Tue Apr 19 19:55:18 2005 : WARNING : ATM VC Congested : Interface - aal5-0, Port
Id=7, Vpi=0, Vci=38
Can anyone shed any light.
Brad
Hi Cor well in the config file for the game server i was reading on a router guide and says you put your wan ip in so ppl can connect i tryed that but i could not connect to the server only if i put the lan ip in
Kung, yes! check out the PDF's for more details.
Stephen, I recommend a Dynamic Hostname (DDNS), the 205 will keep it updated for you, too, automatically.
Stevie , it just sounds like you're hitting the 205's "max IP Session" limit. ensure you've tweaked it to 512, and configure the apps to use less connexions. eMule works great for me, and that's with a few torrents running on another machine, too.
andy so long as you deleted the built-in firewall rules, regular port forwarding should work just fine. did you?
jamie if that's a windows machine, disable UPnP!
bingram, firstly, forget the ATM VC Congested messages, we all get those. you say when you add the NAT rule, your internet dies??? that's a weird one! mail me your config! want to see this!
I guess it's possible that the moment you create the rule, Shareaza starts connecting (ie "working") and Shareaza is the number one killer of internet connexions! Well, at least with the 205. Try eMule!
did I miss someone? kinda in a time-crunch..
;o)
Hi cor, now... when i check my ip address in ms-dos by typing in the command "ipconfig" it says im 192.168.1.3 but on various websites which tell you your ip address including your port probe it says i am 81.155.101.74 Can you please explain the difference please?
Thanks :)
i did that.still no joy!im going to call my isp.hopefully theyll
sort it for me.
thanx again for your help.
Yo cor remember me? well after redoing your whole stealth, static ip, and azures recipies i finialy got it working its a dream come true lol im talkin from 4kbs to now jus over 100kbs!!! TYVM
Michael: The IP address 81.155.101.74 is the Internet facing IP address assigned to you by your ISP, on what we call the WAN side of the router.
192.168.1.3 is your internal IP address of your router, which we cannot see! If you router is configured correctly, but remember Java applets can reveal your computers IP address to the world, but 192.168.x.x is in the private range, and cannot be routed to.
Michael: whoops!
192.168.1.3 is the ip address of your computer, the IP address of you router, is likely to be 192.168.1.1.
yes, i've deleted all the inbuilt default rules using the script, but after doing this should I only have rule 5 & 500000, because there are more 1010, 1020, 1030 etc are these also default!
Andy thanks allot
hey again Cor, i just gave up on ares, couldn't get it to work xD i'll stick to limewire =P
but this ain't really an big problem, but my upload speed on bit torrent sucks...an i mean sucks lol, i have a massive DL speed and virtually no UL speed, and i get called a leacher lol, but at the speed it uploads, i dont have the time to let it seed to a 1:1 ration xD and when i turn up the upload speed in bit tornado, my download speed goes way down =S
heres a screen (click)
what can i do so i upload faster an still keep the good download rate??
thanx,
Bael
Hi, I followed the instructions to stealth and also setup bittorrent ports within those rules. I checked shieldsup and it say i am totally stealthed, which is great.
Now what I want to know, is for games like UT2004 it says I must have certain ports open. I never configured any port forwarding, and just tested to see if it would connect and it did.
Does this mean that my firewall is not working as it should? I was on the understanding that you have to forward ports for any program that wishes to access the net?
I just got a Voyager 205 to go with a Bt Broadband upgrade that Id ordered!
Thanks to your site it is nicely set up and working like a dream without any problems!
Thanks again!
Cloudedbrains
Hi,
I'm tearing my hair out. I tried to set a static IP, which i did. I tried to disable this DCHP mode thingy, but it keeps asking me for username and password. I don't haver one, and I've tried everything, even leaving the space blank, it refuses me access. I just want soulseek to work, and my other p2p apps. It's really pissing me off, because, I am in no way, shape or form a techie, and all this stuff just seems way to complicated and dull for me. Yr site is great, and goes some way to explain things, but I need layman's terms because hardware stuff is too complicated. Waht can I do?
Many thanks,
Emil
emil,
Usual defaults:
Username admin
Password admin
Good Luck
Emi this is a stupid question...but did you try,
username: admin
password: admin
lol :P
omg y dint yetis post appear on my screen??? it was made like 3 hours ago =S
Omg after all that trouble i finialy got port 42910 working for azureus and i actualy downloaded fast but today its yellow again and going painfully slow, also yesterday the probe said Success! now it says connexion timed out. (probably stealthed), Help is apreciated so plz do.
Mick You proably did everything right while forwarding that port, but forgot to save your configuration by going to the router config page/advanced and clicking the little red save button on the left hand side of the page, at the bottom of the menu :)
ahh, back again, but not for long..
Michael, there's lots more info on the static IP page, check it out!
Mick, Cloudedbrains, great news! When the 205 is setup properly, there's nothing to stop a good torrent completely maxing out your download capacity! Don't forget Mick (apart from saving your config (to make it permanent)), not all torrents go full-pelto, and not all torrents will give you a green light, at least not immediately. It's usually worth trying a few torrents, from a few different trackers before drawing any conclusions.
Yeah, Andy, delete them ALL! By the way, the 1010 type numbers won't come back again after a router reboot, but the 10,30,50, etc numbered rules will. my "rad" script will deal with them, though. When I need to reboot the router (rarely, these days) I do..and everything's back to normal. "rr" is my router rebooter script, easy enough to create from a copy of "rad"!
Bael, you can only upload as fast as people ask for it, I generally cap my torrents at around 10kb/s, so your screenshot looks fine to me. The trouble is your client.
With BitTornado (or similar "one-shot" clients) your seeding and your fresh leeches get done in different windows, and this irritates most people to the point where they feel the need to kill the old torrent, effectively becoming leeches. Not enough time? YOU HAVE ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD!
There's nothing to stop you seeding any torrent for weeks, MONTHS! But yeah, it's annoying, having all those copies open (and your process manager will tell you, your many BitTornado's are probably still running even after you quit them! though not actually "live", just running) . So get a better torrent client. I recommend Azureus.
With Azzy, you're seeding and leeching is all done in one "queue-based" window. New torrents go in the top, capped at maybe 10kb/s, and when complete, they move to the bottom pane, where they are seeded. At this point, I often drop the speed down to maybe half again (5kb/s) and let it seed for as long as it takes to get 1:1 or more. There is never an excuse not to seed 1:1, though I've heard a few!
Once you get used to operating this way, you have yourself a permanent queue (for example, you can queue up fifty downloads (or whatever) at once, and have Azzy process them all to your requirements, downloading two or three at a time, seeding each to 1:1, handy when you have to go away for a day or two, as I often do)
Usefully, Azzy allows you to specifically set maximum IP connexions for each torrent, as well as an absolute maximum number of connexions, VERY handy for IP session-starved 205 users!
Recall, look again! Stealth rule one allows all outgoing communication by default. It's only incoming connexions you need to make rules for.
emil, I know it seems daunting, but the best thing you can do is read these here pages, where your fears will be assuaged, and your questions answered! It doesn't take that long, really, and I've been told time and time again that it's time well spent!
Thanks for mucking in guys, appreciated. I often have to nip away at the drop of a hat for days at a time, so it's comforting to know you'll share the wealth (knowledge) in my absence!
for now..
;o)
ps.. Bael, gotta love the preview function!
Yeah i tried Azureus a while back, but seemed a little complex lol i was jus lookin for a simple interface lol :P guess I'll give it anotha try :)
Thanks Cor, i figured out the problem as to why it wouldnt work, it was becuase i made my xbox a DMZ (its ip is 192.168.1.35) i took it off and azureus is running good, except now when im downloading a torrent internet pages takes ages to load and sometimes msn wont let me sign in also :'( Nothins easy is it.. lol.
Do these recipes work with the Voyager 2100?
Thanks
dunno Cedders, but if you can get your hands on a CLI manual, we can certainly find some that do!
np, Mick, keep an eye on the upload speed (no more than 25kb/s) and the total connexions (no more than your "MaxIPSession" setting, which should be 512, if you tweaked it, as shown above. Setup correctly, it shouldn't affect your www speed one bit, unless you are downloading at 240kb/s, of course!
Instead of the DMZ, you might want to replace rule 50000 with a rule forwarding everything to the xbox. Your regular port forwarding rules (executing numnerically earlier) will still do your p2p stuff, as expected, but all other incoming connexions will go to the xbox, instead of the firewall. Just a thought.
Bael, I hear THAT! Its complexity put me off too, in the beginning. But really it looks a lot worse than it is, and it's definitely worth sticking with Azzy for a couple of days, you'll quickly master its (many many) settings. Once you do, you have total control of your torrent activity, and it's unlikely you'll go back to a "one-shot" client, thereafter.
;o)
ps.. a little birdie told me that the entire Charlie Chaplin archive is being seeded, starting about now, on the Pirate Bay. All legal, of course
hi,just to say that i ve called my isp and they have put it down to a fault with my router,and r sending me a new one.so,fingers crossed
this one works!
thanks again for great site
HI cor, you say it allows all outgoing. So that means I only need to make rules if I want block a outgoing program for example.
OR.. I need to allow incoming connection for say a server for a game for example or bittorrent?
As it stands I am safe is this correct? I have only made a incoming connection for bittorrent as thats the only prog that needs it atm. Sorry feel like noob, I know pc's but this is my first hardware firewall.
jamie, well, it may fix it! keep us posted!
Yeah Recall, correct, on all counts! Those two simple rules, thanks to the 205's "stateful inspection", will enable you to carry out all the regular internet tasks in complete safety. All connexions from your computers to the internet will pass unmolested, along with the data you requested. Everything from FTP to SIP will "just work", and most regular users can leave it at that. All incoming requests will be silently discarded (stealthed).
If you need to block some outgoing connexion, or allow some incoming connexion (both are the exact reverse of the usual conditions) then you need to create a port-forwarding rule, which consists of two parts; firewall and NAT.
Application blocking is probably best performed on the machine running the application, unless you wish to prevent some network-wide nuisance.
;o)
Cor, thanks very much for the help. I am so glad I came across this site. I nearly was going to use my Nvidia hardware firewall, as had zero idea on how to setup a router firewall. But you have been a saviour!
One quick question, I am going to be connecting another computer at some point. Will this protect my other LAN port as well? Or is it best to setup the Nvidia firewall which is on the other port for protecting my LAN? I would rather not use the USB connection for routing.
Hi cor,
Thanks for your help before. I haven't tried the VPN without port 500 open but I will next Friday . . . . probably.
I'm still getting a problem of my FW rules get messed up.
I have quite a few ports above 128 open but only ports 21, 25, and 80 below 128 open. It's fine for a time then ports 21, 25, and 80 disappear and about 10 new rules appear. Number 11,12,30,31,50 and others. It doesn't seem to follow any pattern except it's the same ports that vanish and the same ports that come back.
I've just had a thought. I'll have to check next time it happens but i think some of the new rules are the original ones with different rule id's. But that doesn't account for the other extra rules I adds.
The Port Forwards are fine though.
Anyway, hope that all makes some sort of sense.
Thx.
mub
One other question, how do I see my download and upload attenuation with telnet?
yeah, probz will get used 2 azzy eventually =P tho i'm havin problems with it already lol, when i try downloading plugins from inside it directly....nuthin happens it doesnt download anything, even tho i kno the plugins are online cus you can dl them from soundforge =S i havn't tried it witha torrent yet tho lol....cant think of anythin i wanna download, cept this, but i need your help with this to lol,
Click Here
this is what i wanna download, but it says the tracker is down, but there is a backup tracker enabled, so how do i get it to connect to the back-up tracker instead?? cus it just keeps sayin "no-data from tracker".
thanx
Bael
Recall, buy an Ethernet Switch (NOT a "hub", unless it's a "Switching Hub"!). Do that first, they are around ten bucks.
In fact, anyone reading this, who doesn't own an Ethernet Switch, please go out and buy one now. You will need it, and it will save you WEEKS (total time spent) of trouble in that period when you're "getting by without a switch".
If anyone reading this paragraph doesn't own an ethernet switch, please read the previous paragraph!
Then it goes Internet >> Voyager 205 >> Switch >> Computers. The 205 continues to act as a hardware firewall, protecting your whole LAN (basically, anything plugged into the switch) If you need to add more computers than your switch has ports for, just add another switch, and so on. The switch does all the complicated stuff, you just plug 'em in!
GET A SWITCH!
(unless you will only ever have one computer in your house, in which case; wise up! they're soooo cheap! hahah)
As to the telnet statistics, I don't know which ones you mean, but
getwill most certainly be how the command begins, tryget ?mub, like most people, you kinda skimmed through most of the pages here. Don't feel bad about it, it's human nature.
The rules you refer to are built-in. Every time you reboot the router, they are re-inserted. To remove them, use the "rad" script, from my public archive (links above these comments), available for Windows and *nix platforms.
Because of these automatically inserted rules, you will need to create your server rules with different ID numbers, as explained in the recipes for these servers, troubleshooting page, etc. I use 808 for my webserver, 2121 for the FTP, etc. The numbers themseves are arbitary, but these are sensible choices.
Bael, power to ye dude! stick at it!
To use a backup tracker in Azzy, simply edit the details for the torrent (after opening it, of course). The easiest way to get the details, is to double-click the torrent in the queue.
Then go to the "General" tab and right-click the "Tracker URL" (I know, it's plain text, and doesn't look like it could be right-clicked, but almost everything in Azzy can, and that's a good thing!) and select "edit URL", you'll get a dialog; do the same there for the actual address; right-click, "edit URL", and enter the backup URL. Okay that, and it will connect to the new tracker immediately. Except that one looks dead. Try another torrent!
I'm glad to answer any Azzy questions! And that was all from memory (even though I have my linux desktop in a VNC session here somewhere! I've had to edit a few tracker URL's myself recently)
Plugins, I always grab manually, from sourceforge, and install afterwards. I haven't even tried to do it from inside azzy itself! (a minute later...) hey! that's cool! I just installed "Upload Shaper" from inside azzy, using the plug-in installation wizard. Hey! now it's in my seeding queue! It was a torrent! This is too funny, I must still be a bit tipsy from last night!
And hey! as for that "cant think of anythin i wanna download", man! You must be on a different internet from me! I'd need a 20MB link to even scratch the surface of all those goodies!
Have fun dudes!
;o)
im here trying to set up my friends xbox on xlink kai but for the life of me i cant get it going. i have set the filters you suggested for adrian but they dont seem to work here.
pulling my hair out :(
funy, importantly, you'll need to give the xbox a static IP before you start messing with router rules and suchlike, say 192.168.1.200
Then do all the stuff here, static IP, stealth rules, etc, but replace stealth rule 500000 with a port forwarding rule redirecting everything to the xbox, like this..
create ipf rule entry ruleid 500000 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq tcp seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 500002 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq udp seclevel high medium low
create nat rule entry ruleid 500000 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.200 lcladdrto 192.168.1.200
If you do this, and it works, let me know!
You may need to alter the nat rule to go before the NAPT, say ruleID 99999. but try the above first and test, test, test!
keep us posted!
;o)
ps.. cool trick for all router owners..
If you replace your own "stealth rule number two" with the above code, any incoming packets will be forwarded to a non-existant machine! (192.168.1.200, or just make it up!)
The sender (or "attacker", perhaps) will, rather than just have their packet dropped (the usual way of "stealth"), get back a "destination unreachable" (aka. "No route to Host") packet (from your trusty Viking). If you think about it, this is perfect stealth", it's like you really don't exist. Try it at my port probe!
Am I overlooking something, or is that the neatest trick of the week?
thanks cor i'll give that a try when im there again tomorrow, so the ports need to be forwarded to the xbox then? i thought it had to be to the pc with xlink on.
Will try and post how it went.
Thanks
erm, xlink? dunno about that!
I've got zero experience with xlink, whatever it is. perhaps you do need to go via the peecee, but it depends what you're trying to do.
Wherever the host is, the machine serving the game, that's where you need to forward ports to. If the xlink system running on the peecee needs some incoming connexions, make regular port-forwarding rules for those, just like we do for p2p apps, no worries.
A wee google later..
It appears you will need one single port-forwarding rule to run Kai, a UDP rule for port 30000. Along with the "xbox stealth" from above, you should be good to go. Any incoming that isn't specifically covered with a port-forwarding rule will pass to the xbox, so you should get the best of both worlds with the above setup.
test, test, test!
;o)
hi cor.
Thanks for yor info on p-fwd multiplayer Mohaa/sh/bt.
And modem/router config.
This is bound to be a silly thing to ask "BUT" here goes!
I have ave'upload speed around 288 Kbps
And a ave'download speed around 2272 Kbps.
Is There a way to config your bandwidth so as your upload speeds
could be increaced/at the cost of download speed being lower?
The reson being"BUT" i might be wrong!.. I use a second System
with/os server 2003 /2x10.000 rpm s-raid hard drives. and i lunch
multiplayer game servers,,only 4-6 players very low ping.
Would a faster upload speed improve performance when lunching a game server?
If my thinking is wrong, dont laugh to hard! lol
But would like to know if it is poss'or would it work
please let me Know prv.Joker
Good questions..
No.
I've asked BT about this, even implied that I would be willing to pay extra and have a reduced download speed into the bargain. no dice. there simply isn't a package available, and the limits are hard-wired, no amount of configuration at our end will make any difference.
Please email BT and ask yourself; the more of us that do, the more likely they are to take notice, and at least begin investigating whether such a thing is technically possible, or feasible. Currently BT offers one of the fastest ADSL upload speeds around! No, really! It may be a joke, but it's a fairly widespread one..
http://www.uk-bug.net/Article727.html
That depends. I don't know how much difference there would be with launching the server, and folk connecting to it, good ping times matter more here. But for continued gameplay, yes, a faster upload will help greatly, and also proof you against other network traffic interfering with your game server.
BT do an SDSL service, but the price doesn't appear to be earth money. Maybe one day.
;o)
Thanks cor.
At least i was thinking along the right track.
And will email BT as soon as im done here.
As customers,it would be a great if bt or Others,came up with
a package that alowes users to config there bandwidth to suit
there needs!
Nice thought.After all we pay for what we use up or down stream.
Tanks for your time,,,Joker
lol,,http://www.uk-bug.net/eusty/uploaddetail.htm
Very Well Done lol lol lol,I though i was onto a winner there
nice 1 will cath a few more with that lol c-ya!lol,,,joker lol
nite cor.
Funy - I think you need to directly hook your pc and xbox up via like a lan card yo use xlink and xbc so im told, i used to use it :P
Cor, ur a dam genious but like genious' their nvr understood :P lol. Im kinda a newb at this whole port thing so can u give me a rule or something to help me xbox work and me download similtaniously?
Xbox ip: 192.168.1.35
Pc ip: 192.168.1.3
Im not sure wat ports or what the xbox needs :S but when i created a nat rule without telneting making the xbox a dmz it works althought afterwords when im downloading i think its affecting it because the face is yellow r blue. :S
Thx and apreciate help so far
Great info, well laid out on nice looking pages - good job!
Tried all your advice to get bit torrents working but no joy until I read the roubleshooting page and then got me-self a nic. So if I was to make a suggestion it would be to have that info on your home or recipe page.
On the Quick Start page of the router can you rely on the Data Received info, is it reliable? Also now I've got a nic in task manager (XP) under the networking tab the link speed is 100mbs but my connection is 1mb, anyway you know of changing this?
Thanks again.
Simon
Thank cor, your right I didn't look closely enough. :)
Fixing it now :)
mub - Duely Disected
Damn! I did it again! rebooted before posting my comment! ( bangs head off desk ) I'm testing stuff today, installing things, as I have replaced my final Maxtor (crap) with a nice Seagate (yum). AAARRRGGHHH! It was a corker as well! Och well, C'est la Vie!
/cor composes himself, deep breaths..
Yeah joker, it's a beauty! got me going, that's for sure! Maybe I should put it up with the "useful links", just for fun!
Mick, to cut a long (though witty and highly enjoyable) story short, use my "xbox stealth" rules from above. I've been running like this since I came up with it yesterday. Works great! You don't need an xbox to do xbox stealth!
DMZ's are usually a last resort, because they create an "either/or" situation for your LAN servers. With the "xbox stealth" (I give these things cute names just so we're all on the same page!) you have the best of both worlds; regular server/p2p/torrent rules work as normal, being numerically earlier, and anything that isn't specifically covered by a port-forwarding rule gets directed to the xbox. TADA! Just like a DMZ, but better.
In theory, this is an excellent way to setup a LAN+xbox, even if you don't have an xbox! But I'd like some feedback from someone who's put it into practice before I do an "xbox recipe"; something I'd love to do, asap! I'd also like to know if putting the xbox stealth rule before the NAPT rule changes things for the xbox, just curious.
The real beauty of this setup is (apart from the "perfect stealth" thing), once the xbox stealth is in place, you won't have to consider port-forwarding for new xbox games, or even existing xbox games, they'll just work!
Essentially we are using the xbox as a sort of "lightening rod" for incoming connexions. All requests/attacks/whatever get routed to the xbox, safely avoiding our user machines. A firewall catch-all!
Simon, You're Welcome!
Yeah, I guess I could put that information somewhere more obvious, but it would kinda spoil the punchline a bit, I get a perverse kick whenever someone clicks the troubleshooting link that goes "My router keeps disconnecting all the time!".
"USB" and "Networking" don't really belong in the same sentence, and I do drop quite a few hints elsewhere in these pages.
I mean, you'd think folk would know that anything BT tells them is probably rubbish!?!
It's obvious innit? innit?
OH FECK! OKAY THEN! I'll add it to the main page!
(consider it done, it is. see above)
You drive a hard bargain dude!
for now..
;o)
ps..mub.. SWOOSH!
Hey I was only suggesting. You're the boss
The "Simon Says" gag was too good to miss!
;o)
Yeah Cor!
I think you shuold put it up with "useful Links"lol
Go on, see how meny Gotcha! Hits you get.
Hee! Hee!.c-ya! cor...../....joker
I have a Belkin wireles access unit hooked into the router's Ethernet port... for a while all was well but now two different computers - in both XP (Yuk) and Linux, keep dropping out... it's odd that "repair" will often fix the problem and it seems like a dhcp thing failing to deliver an IP every time? I tried giving the pc a static IP and allocating dns and gateway to the default router address (192.168.1.1) but this still remains unreliable, When connected directly or via a hub using Cat 5 hardwire no problems, yet the wireless access unit works flawlessly in other networks, and appears to activate the ethernet port on the router? This is my second Voyager in a month, and BT have suggested that BT Communicator is the cause (lol) but their patch to firmware 1.6 has not worked, and as I told them the same faults crop up in Linux this came as no surprise to ONE of us! Any thoughts? Ta!
Perhaps we need more information for the diagnosis. If it's communicator causing the router to lock-up, all the lights will be on. Are all the lights on when the connexion drops out?
You might want to open a telnet session to the router and leave it open, see if any unusual messages appear (the congestion messages are normal!)
You'll definitely want to tweak the "MaxIPSessions" from the default of 192, to the maximum of 512. See the Essential Tweaks section above these comments for more details.
;o)
Cheers cor lol, wel if ur interested in the whole "let my xbox take the hackers" mite interest you to know that what i was told by the dudes on the help line is.. "xbox live needs ports udp 88, udp 3074 and tcp 3074" im gona look now were u wrote those rules and try it out, thx a bunch.
P.s. Cor, what i did was deleted me previous 500000 firewall rule i used on your stealth page and replaced it and added the following:
create ipf rule entry ruleid 500000 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq tcp seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 500002 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq udp seclevel high medium low
create nat rule entry ruleid 500000 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.35 lcladdrto 192.168.1.35
Hope this works, il let ya know and if it doesnt ul hear from my lawyer lol :P
I have SANS Dns Server running on my server. The router is pratically as is out of the box. On the server there are 2 POP Servers, 2 SMTP Servers, A HTTP Server and A FTP Server amongst other things. How do I configure both SANS and the router so:
mail.tom.m.net
ftp.tom.m.net
www.tom.m.net
(and possibly more)
all point to my server from anywhere on the internet.
I want everything to be running on my server without using DynDNS or similar.
Please Help,
Tom
Hey Man,
Did they introduce the usage restriction already??? cus 2day my internet started goin REALLY slow xD, im struggling 2 get a DL speed over 20kbps on any torrent =S
Thanx,
Bael
I have followed the instructions with great care and I don't have problems to open ports and get p2p applications to work on my computer.
My "only" problem is that the router keeps disconntecting. This happens after I have added Firewall and NAT rules on non- standard ports AND the corresponding application is using the ports. If I have the p2p application running, then web pages are sluggish to load and eventually the connection with the internet is interuppted (the p2p application initialises server connections and the web pages don't load anymore). Eventually, after a few seconds the connection resumes.
I have checked everything on the checklist. I have tried different sets of Firewall and NAT rules and even tried to change the properties of the PPP interface!
I have a second probem: I am trying to use a remote control program on my computer (netobserve). The program is web-based and uses port 80. The programme interface can be accessed via Internet Explorer by typing in the addresse of the remote computer on which the server application is running. Although I can reach my computer from my own computer using my LAN IP (via the router), I can't access my computer from another PC outside the LAN even though the server application is configured to run on the external IP. When I am typing the external IP in the Internet Explorer of the remote PC, I just get the Router configuration page instead of the remote management tool. Do you have an idea what is happening and how I can solve this? I have tried so many things already (both 80 and non standard port, set the corresponding Firewall and NAT rules.
I have the same problem using Radmin (Remote Administator).
I would be grateful for your help!
puremind
Mick, my legal team awaits!
Tom, what you want isn't possible. To set yourself up as an A-Class DNS server, you need a static IP. Do you have a static IP?
A domain's registration records contain the IP of the two validated nameservers for that particular domian. Those numbers must be fixed. And once they are, it can take days, even weeks for them to propagate through the entire DNS system. By the time this is fully accomplished, your IP may have changed. You see ther difficulty? Certainly makes products like this rather intriguing.
In the real world, there are services out there that will do all this for you, all the major DDNS players do a "real" domain service, providing dynamic DNS services for TLD's (yours are fictional, I hope!) Google around a bit, save yourself the wasted effort!
Bael, not for me! Even if they had, for you, you'd get a warning email from BT long before any speed reductions were implememnted. Try one of the top-five torrents at The Bay, as a wee test. But only if you own the original media, etc, etc..
puremind, I'm presuming you're all connected up with ethernet. These sound like the kind of crazy issues USB users face!
Next I'm thinking "MaxIPSessions Tweak", but I'll assume you've done that, too. Hmm. Open a telnet session and leave it open, watch for any unusual messages.
As to the second problem, it sounds like the Web Administration interface is enabled on the WAN side. If not, perhaps you've left in the "automatic" rules that are inserted after a reboot. If so, use my "rad" script to delete them quickly. Those rules will mess with incoming connections on all the major serving ports!
Feel free to get back with more info/errors/messages/etc.
for now..
;o)
Cor, it half worked lol, i cant still download torrents and play on xbox live but... i cant join certain people online and i had this problem before i was told its due to my router and to make my xbox a DMZ which worked so somethings wrong :S lol. Ill c u in court :P
Mick, those changes won't affect your torrents at all, ergo, something else must wrong with your setup.
Do you have port-forwarding rules setup for torrents? And is the xbox DNS setup correctly? Feel free to send me your router config, I could take a look. (SAVE (or "commit") first)
By the way, almost every config file I've looked at so far had fairly obvious "issues". Sometimes it just takes a fresh pair of eyes to spot them.
for now..
;o)
Yea i know wat u mean after seeing how u did those port forwards it makes understanding it ALLOT easier lol. Well, i have ports 42910 open for azureus and its working great (thank you). I made the changes u suggested for a guy called funy which are delete the previous 500000 firewall rule i used on your stealth page and replace it and added the following:
create ipf rule entry ruleid 500000 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq tcp seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 500002 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq udp seclevel high medium low
create nat rule entry ruleid 500000 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.35 lcladdrto 192.168.1.35
Which worked good but had problems connecting with one person, so i made the xbox (whichs ip is 102.168.1.35 and DNS stuff is right i think) a DMZ now wierdly xbox is working perfect and so is torrents. Misson acomplished Cor tyvm
And if u need help with ur xbox page im ur man.
Wi(ked!
In our stumbling way, I think we've hit the Jackpot!
The voyager must be executing the NAT rules before the DMZ, which seems fairly sensible, so the 205's default rules, and also our regular stealth rules would prevent that mechanism from working correctly.
With "Console Stealth"(that's a better name!) + DMZ the 205 is in no doubt about where to send those stray incoming packets! Just like my dog, needs to be told twice!
About the xbox section, definitely! Start by sending me your exported configuration file, I can get most of the juicy stuff from that. Screencaps of your xbox DNS setup screen (even a shaky webcam-type shot) would also be cool. And a rough list of the games that work well for you. I'll likely think of something else!
for now..
;o)
Im playing counterstrike source, when I first set this up and I searched for servers, it only brought back 50-60. Then i found a page on your web site telling me how to sort my voyager 205. Then i got min 400. I have just updated my firmware (v1.6) and its gone back to only finding 50-60 but now i cant find the page telling me how to sort this.
Please help
Cor, cant get on that page its asking for some sorta password lol. What u need to do in essence is..
In the xbox dashboard make your xbox ip manual and put it to 35 or more (so i was told) E.g. 192.168.1.35 (or more)then open router section in the configuration page, go to the nat\dmz part, create a nat rule which makes your xbox ip a Dmz which is what ive done and i can also run fast torrents now thx 2 u
Also xbox live help line told me that the xbox needs ports udp 88, tcp 3074 and udp 3074 if thats any help to u.
Foz did you keep a backup of the old configuration? Those commands will still work. Export your new config, and add the commands you need. Upload it again (FTP) and it will reboot with the new settings.
If you don't have a backup (*sigh*), it's probably best to go through this page and apply all the tweaks again, then create a port-forwarding rule for the game and its ports. See the recipes page for more details (all links at the very top).
l*rz..
;o)
oops, missed you there Mick, thanks for that. The "35" is to get past the DHCP pool, but I generally recommend folk disable that anyway.
The good thing about this approach is, once its setup, it doesn't matter what ports the xbox needs now or at any time in the future; it's getting them all!
cheers dude!
;o)
No stupid me didnt, i will go through as you say.
you did have a page just for css though didnt you?
Thanks
Just a quick question. How do I enable FTP downloads. I'm trying to download drivers from HP, but are not able to. An example URL is http://h18007.www1.hp.com/support/files/handheldiPAQ/us/download/22570.html Normal downloads are fine, its just the FTP ones that does not work.
Hi cor
This is an obscure one for you. I play a game called netKar and I'm having trouble connecting to outside hosts. I've made sure all the correct ports are open and the port forwards work fine coz I can host OK, which is strange. Anyway Here are the ports netKar uses. Is there anything about these ranges the voyager won't like? Maybe something in the alg rules.
6000 TCP and UDP
1000 to 2000 UDP only
32766 to 32767 TCP and UDP
mub - Vrrroooom....no!
netKar problem continued...
Here is a clearer account of the problem, if it helps.
netKar. It's a very good racing sim.
1. I can host a netKar server with a problem.
2. I race using my main PC and can connect to my own server no probs.
3. My main PC and Server are on the same subnet so it connects on the servers' internal ip address. So it's not going through the voyager in any way.
4. When I try connecting to a server on the internet somewhere, it successfully joins the server but then it won't "sync" (something netKar does when u actually join the track)
5. I had no problems on NTL with my Linksys, but now I'm with BT and using a Voyager. (not a dig at the voyager which has been cool up until now)
IT's a weird one realy. I've had lots of experience fixing other peoples netKar connection troubles, but this one has me stumped.
I've looked through a backup of the routers config. There are some ALG entries that look like they might clash with the netKar port ranges, but I could be just guessing. My other guess is the Voyager doesn't like the way netKar formats it's udp packets, or something along those lines.
Anyway, hope you can give me a clue or 2.
mub - Vrrrooooommmmmm....no!
No sweat cor least i could do, BUT i jus double checked its friggin recked lol. Im pretty sure ur way was perfect the 1st time and the reason it didnt work it cus the 1 guy i cudnt get in a game with just changed his router settings not me! So when i made the xbox a DMZ it messed up my torrents, so i deleted the rule and got my fingers crossed its gona work now. In essence what u did was make everything what im not doin on the pc is forwarded to my xbox? Does this mean my pc may miss stuff and my xbox will pick it up?
Yea and for ur site info, the only game really effected badly with ports and stuff is Halo 2 many people had the problem with connecting to users due to NAT problems, and uve solved it. Plus microsoft who made the game cant say how to fix it because its to do with routers and they cant really comment so not many can fix but soon will thx 2 u :)
Cheers m8.
nah Foz, not for any games. I've got an old ports list kicking around somewhere, but there's a better one in the useful links section.
Uncle Bob, FTP should just work, no problems (stealth rule one covers ALL outgoing communications). I suspect your browser's MIME-Types are incorrectly setup, or something like that. Installing dodgy download managers can sometimes do this, amongst other things.
That particular page has lots of JavaScript, too. Ensure you have javascript enabled in your browser. Maybe try another browser. I recommend Firefox almost exclusively these days.
well mub, I'm scratching my head too! I don't see any alg rules in my config that would intefere, but feel free to delete any you don't like the look of. You might also want to play around with the UDP timeouts (perhaps TCP, too). MIne are currently..
but a very short timeout might be better for you. I can't think of anything else for now. mail me your cfg if you want a second opinion on it.
Hey Mick, fingers crossed!
With console stealth, ALL incoming requests, not specifically covered by a port-forwarding rule are routed to the xbox. The 205's NAT will run through the list and route anything it finds there; BitTorrent rules, web servers, whatever, just like with the regular stealth rules.
If the 205 doesn't find a match, the xbox gets it! The only possible issue is if some game happens to use the exact same port you have configured for your p2p app, but with 65,535 of them, this is fairly unlikely!
keep us posted!
;o)
Cor,
I use Firefox 1.0.3 and have all the required plugins/extensions. I tried with IE as well. When trying to download, after a short while the Broadband Health thingy pops up testing the connection, but all shows OK. The router firmware is the latest - v1.6
Hi, trying to get winmx running, followed your pages word for word, no luck, port tests shows ports refused. Using ethernet/static ip, everything. please help
Uncle Bob, mail me your config, I'll be able to tell if it's the router causing you trouble, or not. I tried the link myself, and got an SPsomething.exe file in my usual download folder.
Another possibility, Firefox has automatically downloaded the file to your default download location. What does it say in the firefox download manager? Was there a particular error?
"Broadband Health" ??? Que?
nige did you run through the troubleshooter checklist?
Remember you can only test TCP with the probe! It was the TCP port you were testing, yeah?
Mmmm..
;o)
Hey there, can someone E-mail me or find me the website to download the BT Voyager 205 ADSL Router drivers, iv looked everywhere my e-mail is yummyfakecake@hotmail.com
This would be very nice if someone could as i am very desperate for these drivers.
Cal, here are the BT Voyager 205 ADSL Router drivers.
http://www.downloads.bt.com/btbroadband/drivers/BT_Voyager_205_driver_download.zip
Cal, here are the BT Voyager 205 ADSL Router drivers.
http://www.downloads.bt.com/btbroadband/drivers/BT_Voyager_205_driver_download.zip
aww, Sylver123, I was gonna wait for him to discover the link on this very page, maybe drop a clue, or something.
refresh = bad
(tip, click the "main 205 page" at the top twice!)
I gotta put that somewhere.
/me fires up ftp client..
;o)
Cor, needless to say, today I'm able to download from the hp ftp site without a problem. I suppose that yesterday that particular file might not have been available...
Rergarding the "Broadband Health"; its that other needless stuff that also instralled from the cd which came with the cd. - BT Broadband Help. Hey, what could I do?! :( Could not get just the driver as no internet connection, had to install from cd before able to search for driver on net. that's how I found your site...
PS where to I get the "get fwl blacklist" from. when entering this on my router, it comes up error: no entry found?
I hear what ur sayin and it sounds flawless, i took the DMZ rule out, now torrents running smoothly and xbox live is running but with problems. I still cant connect to certain people and the only reason is because if a problem with NATs lol, Nothings ever easy.. especially with pcs. Mabey the problem jus cant be fixed or else its the people i cant joins fault :S
COR, U DA MAN!!! I followed some links and suggestions elsewhere on your site and this is the result: (PS feel free to edit if its too long)
1. Attempting connection to your computer. . .
Shields UP! is now attempting to contact the Hidden Internet Server within your PC. It is likely that no one has told you that your own personal computer may now be functioning as an Internet Server with neither your knowledge nor your permission. And that it may be serving up all or many of your personal files for reading, writing, modification and even deletion by anyone, anywhere, on the Internet!
Your Internet port 139 does not appear to exist!
One or more ports on this system are operating in FULL STEALTH MODE! Standard Internet behavior requires port connection attempts to be answered with a success or refusal response. Therefore, only an attempt to connect to a nonexistent computer results in no response of either kind. But YOUR computer has DELIBERATELY CHOSEN NOT TO RESPOND (that's very cool!) which represents advanced computer and port stealthing capabilities. A machine configured in this fashion is well hardened to Internet NetBIOS attack and intrusion.
Unable to connect with NetBIOS to your computer.
All attempts to get any information from your computer have FAILED. (This is very uncommon for a Windows networking-based PC.) Relative to vulnerabilities from Windows networking, this computer appears to be VERY SECURE since it is NOT exposing ANY of its internal NetBIOS networking protocol over the Internet.
__________________________
Checking the Most Common and Troublesome Internet Ports
This Internet Common Ports Probe attempts to establish standard TCP Internet connections with a collection of standard, well-known, and often vulnerable or troublesome Internet ports on YOUR computer. Since this is being done from our server, successful connections demonstrate which of your ports are "open" or visible and soliciting connections from passing Internet port scanners.
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GRC Port Authority Report created on UTC: 2005-04-28 at 19:06:27
Results from scan of ports: 0, 21-23, 25, 79, 80, 110, 113,
119, 135, 139, 143, 389, 443, 445,
1002, 1024-1030, 1720, 5000
0 Ports Open
0 Ports Closed
26 Ports Stealth
---------------------
26 Ports Tested
ALL PORTS tested were found to be: STEALTH.
TruStealth: PASSED - ALL tested ports were STEALTH,
- NO unsolicited packets were received,
- NO Ping reply (ICMP Echo) was received.
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GRC Port Authority Report created on UTC: 2005-04-28 at 19:09:30
Results from scan of ports: 0-1055
0 Ports Open
0 Ports Closed
1056 Ports Stealth
---------------------
1056 Ports Tested
ALL PORTS tested were found to be: STEALTH.
TruStealth: PASSED - ALL tested ports were STEALTH,
- NO unsolicited packets were received,
- NO Ping reply (ICMP Echo) was received.
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yup, Uncle Bob, that's the one! Hey, this comment file's gonna be a meg soon, what's another few KiloBytes!
Stealth is the perfect start to any firewall. From here we can allow certain access as required. Feel free to keep on soaking up the text here, there's some juicy stuff, much of it really only making sense on a second reading!
By the way, the error isn't really an error, it simply means you haven't enabled blacklist protection. With full stealth, this is optional, anyway.
Aye, Mick, nothing's ever easy when you start to add "other users" into the equation (there would never be any road accidents if it weren't for "other drivers"!).
NAT problems are incredibly common, and it's very likely that the troubles you occasionally face are at their end. It follows, logically, that if you can do it once, you can do it. success is success.
I have four torrents open right now, only one has a green light, but still, I know that my setup works perfectly; a green light is a green light. ergo, it must be trackers/other torrenteers.
keep on rockin'!
;o)
Me again!!!
How do I enable blacklist protection and what must I add etc. (What can I say, I believe in over-kill)
Me again!!!
How do I enable blacklist protection and what must I add etc. (What can I say, I believe in over-kill)
something is definetelt wrong with my setup xD for the past few days ive been downloading at crap speeds =( at first it was averagin around 20-30kbps and now i can't get it to even go over 10kbps with a torrent that has 45seeders and 46peers, i havent changed anything with my router config, and the only thing ive installed in the past few days is, games (half life 2, lineage 2) and i also updated from ad-aware 6 to SE, oh and microsoft antispyware, but that aint a firewall....is it?? heh i have no idea whats wrong you got any ideas man??? lol i need 2 get back2 full speed DLin before May xD
Thanx,
Bael
PS. Uncle Bob enable blacklist, tho it should already be anabled by default, check outt he stealth page for more info ;)
modify fwl global blistprotect enable
well due to my lack of faith in anything microsoft i unstalled there antispyware thing....an guess what lol.....it's fixed =D
can microsoft do anything right lol????
=D
I'm glad I missed all that!
Is this part of the security centre thing? I don't use any of that stuff. Hmm, this may be of interest to you guys; the list of current running services on my XP box..
And there's a couple there that could be disabled, too. Security is not something Microsoft have a reputation for doing well. The 205 does it better.
;o)
No it's not on the security centre thing, it's a new thing, i had a spyware problem recently, and after a guy helped me fix it on some other forums, he told me to download it, as it would help "protect" me lol xD
Take a Look
thanx,
Bael
actually i'm not sure if everything is ok, cus its only on torrents with loads of seeds/peers i get good download rates, i mean i kno they wont be as good with torrents with less, but even this one has 10 seeds/14 peers and it is just stuck on "connecting to peers" with a yellow light (im just tryin to sort things out with Bit Tornado lol....atleast i understand everything with it =D soon as this is fixxed al work on gettin to grips with azzy again lol xD
thanx,
Bael
PS...soz lol....pretty much spammin ur Comments Board tonight lol xD
Interesting. I can't remember when I last checked for spyware, but I'm pretty sure I used SpyBot - Search & Destroy.
I think you probably just need to be more patient with your torrents. Often the initial connexion to the tracker can be slow, sometimes very slow. I've seen it take a half hour to get started. As for top speeds, yes, only very busy torrents will give you top speed.
The science bit; If a torrent has only thirty peers, and each is uploading to a dozen other peers, at a total of, say, 12kb/s per torrent, that's 1kb/s per peer. If you are connected to ALL the peers, you might reasonably expect around 30kb/s. At least, any more would be a bonus. I've had 120kb/s+ from only a dozen peers or less, but that's not the norm.
If you get a green light, ever, then it works! one hundred percent! Any trouble from then on is someone else's troubleshoot!
Here's a torrent you can use to test your connexion..
http://azureus.sourceforge.net/index_CVS.php
have fun!
;o)
Yeah i have spyware S&D, didn't fix it tho, i needed to use an app called HiJack This which pretty much gives the details of everythin runnin on your comp, then i got a pro to look at teh log file an he told me what to get rid of to fix the problem, but that same pro told me to instal the microsoft thing lol xD
well atm i got a torrent DLin, and i got the green light, but still my DL speed sucks, and from "the science" bit i figure i should be downloading faster lol, i've got 91 Peers/14 seeds an seeing 25.998 distributed copies which is the highest ive seen any of the numbers, apart from seeds, and i only have a download speed of 50-60kb, and i also i know some torrents take time connecting, like with some it used 2 take like 10-15mins before the light even turned green from yellow, but its doing it for all torrents, i even tried DLing something that i got the other day before it started playing up, cus i know i had a DL speed of over 200kbps on it, but when i tried it today it only just reached 100s xD
think anything on my computer could be slowing anything down other than spyware?? what about a disk defrag lol?? i dunno....its my mates answer to eveythin tho lol xD
Thanx,
Bael
cor thanks for your site I now have a better understanding of routers. With the new firmware on the voyager (v1.6) you can open ports easily through the interface. I have opened ports 27000-27015 udp and 27030-27039 tcp and 1200 udp I have opened these for incoming and outgoing. do I need to open them for both outgoing and incoming as there are seperate rules for each( theses are the ports for counterstrike source)
Thanks again
Foz
I know that guy!
If you get green just once, it's working! Relax! Yes, you'll still want to keep an eye on the total upload speeds (24kb/s practical maximum on BT line) to prevent saturation (which will slow you down) and don't allow Azzy (or whatever torrent client) to use more than, say, 400 total connexions. Keep the TCP & UDP timeouts tight. Any other issues you face will be "out there".
I think perhaps we expect too much from our 50:1 contention ratio ADSL links. No way is anyone gonna get max speed all the time. Last night I was grabbing stuff as 220kb/s, today, my torrent crawls along at 33kb/s. I'm not in a hurry.
If you max out your bandwidth 24/7, you'll quickly hit your monthly limit!
Foz, I feel the force is strong in you! But worry not about outgoing connexions, if you've followed the recomendations here, "stealth rule one" allows everything to pass freely, only incoming connexions require special configuration, specifically, port-forwarding.
The links to the port-forwarding recipes, along with all the other pages in this wee corner of the site, are at the very top of the page.
for now..
;o)
ps.. and RAM! LOTS OF RAM!!
Cool cor thanks, it probibaly is other people cusing the problems, main thing is i got my torrents rockin, cheeeers!
I'm guessing he's from aberdeen. Scotland ;)
more than just for fun...
modify system contact "cor, http://corz.org"
modify system location "Aberdeen, Scotland"
modify system dname "corz.ath.cx"
modify system name "Starship Voyager 205"
Hi,Cor
Just a quicki! ( generic rules )single port rules. Nat, Ipf.
My Router IP: on all of my systems sits at: 192.168.1.5"
So all the rules i have created, I end in .1.5 insted of .1.3 or .1.4
Is this correct?.
Ta! Joker
Yeah joker, you should direct all your rules to whatever you set your static IP as in Network connections, so if your static IP is 192.168.1.5 then all your NAT rules should read something like this:
create nat rule entry ruleid 1024 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.5 lcladdrto 192.168.1.5 destportfrom num 1024 destportto num 1024
Aye! Aberdeen, Scotland it is!
quickie: prv.joker, you were talking about the IP of your private computer, not the IP of the router, right? The router is usually 192.168.1.1
Thanks bael! Glad to see someone making use of the [code] tag in their comments! (btw, there's pre and coderz, as well as regular <code> tags, too!)
I switched the IP of my own workstation to 192.168.1.3 (which was my now-dead iMac's IP) and I plan to use this for ALL examples from now on, most people have this IP, and it's what they'd get from the router's DHCP pool, too, although it's usually best to disable that.
My plan is to get on with a "basic setup" page, and have a config file ready-made, that folk can simply upload to their router. All the major p2p apps will be configured and ready-to-go, full stealth, etc. Maybe over the weekend, though probably not. Soon, though.
Uploading by FTP is the easiest and fastest way to get a whole new configuration into the router. If you haven't tried it yet, export your config, make a few choice tweaks, and upload it again. TADA!
okay, l*rz..
;o)
bael - 29.04.05 9:46 pm
Thanks m8 thats what ive done,Im still A bit green lol,
just wanted to be shure.
thank for your time
cya!
Cor.....
ooooohhhh pretty
jus a quick question man, im thinking about buying a second xbox, my current one is modded witha really old chip that doesn't support xbox live, so i want a 2nd one for xbox live, but since my pc is using the ethernet slot on my router, how do i hook up the xbox to the router, i guess i could do it by unpluggint eh router from the pc right?? but i'm looking for a way that i could have both the xbox and the PC connected at the same time, would just a regular ethernet hub do teh trick??
Thanx,
Bael
Hi Cor
sorry about mistake
were talking about the IP of your private computer, not the IP of the router, right? The router is usually 192.168.1.1"
yes sorry that is the ip of router 192.168.1.1
but the pvt ip 192.168.1.5
again sorry ,,,,,Joker
no worries prv.joker, just wanted to be 100%. My router used to live at a weird address, so anything's possible!
hey Bael, check out the bbtags page!
As to your xbox question, the answer is simple..
GET A SWITCH!
for now..
;o)
ok I'm not completely sure what that is lol....but done a quick search on google, and found out what the difference is between a hub and a switch, and it makes slight sence lol :P just wanted to make sure iv'e found the right thing online for what i'd need :P Click Here
also how would this be set-up?? would i connect all my hardware directly to the switch and it does everything for me?? and would i be able 2 link more than one thing? and do they all neccasarily have to be linkied to the router network, what i mean is, i also occasionally use my ethernet port on my PC to FTP my modded xbox, for ripping games off of the xbox HDD/Disk drvie so that i can make "Back-ups" :P so with a switch would it be possible for me, to have say:
My Mum is also thinking of getting a new computer for downstairs, which is probably gunna be in quite a few monthes lol, but hey it gives me a chace to play with teh tables lol :P so would this be possible as a full network using the switch thing??
Not sure i'd need that last one right??? cus when setting up the "small or office network" in windows, i would just configure it so my Mum's pc connects to the internet through mine right?? sorry if all thats completely wrong lol, i've never set up a network before xD
Thanx,
Bael
It's a lot simpler than this.
The main difference between a switch and a hub is simply that a switch knows the address of every computer attached to it (including the router) and directs all the data to the correct place, whereas a hub just sprays it everywhere and we hope for the best. Switches are so cheap these days, there's no need to buy antiques like hubs.
As to setup, there isn't any. You plug the router into one port, and all the computers (including the xbox) into the other ports.
That's it! here's some nice ascii art to demonstrate..
[puter]\ \ [puter]\ \ [switch]---[205]---[the net] [puter]/ / / [x box]/have fun!
;o)
ps.. the switch in your URL is ideal, and a nice price, too. I'll probably replace my link (above) with that one. Anything to stop promoting PCWorld for free!
by the way, ten out of ten for the bbcode!
;o)
(or
kewl thanx for all your help again man =D
lol lovin teh bbcode on your site
Thnx Again,
Bael
I'll be hanging round =) always learn something new when i come here lol :P
also i stumbbled upon this earlier, thought it might come in useful for all teh firefox users
and for those of you thinkin...i don't need it i use IE, you do need it....go get Firefox!!!! NOW!!! lol j/k but you really should lol =P
also i would have to alter all my Router IPF rules right for it to work with two comps??? eg, have my static IP on one comp as 192.168.1.4 and on another have it as 192.168.1.5, and then modify all the IPF rules to be something like this??
is that right??
thnx,
Bael
NAT not IPF lol xD :P
you'd only need to alter rules specifically for the other puter. all your old rules for your current puter will still work, unless you change its IP, of course. Leave them alone!
The rule you posted would create a "round-robbin" affect, not what you're after.
I assume you want to run the same server/p2p app on multiple puters. The way to do it is use different ports on each machine, and create proper rules for each one. eg, Azzy on your puter uses port 49300, your mum's uses port 49310, etc.
You're right about Firefox, though. I truly don't understand why anyone still uses IE, but they do! Probably just apathy.
;o)
think it's only really geeks that use firefox lol....Yup i'm a geek
but theres a maximum of 20 rules right?? and if i had 2 seperate rules for each p2p/app and theres also games to consider also....won't that mean i will fast run out of rules??
EDIT:
kewl you added an edit function lol =P no more triple posts =D
nah, that was just a bug!
I am, in fact, adding editing functions, but first for me! still some way to go yet, but the current live script is at least creating the entries my the new "editable" format, and pulling out the entries I ask for. it's all invisible to you guys, of course, apart from when wee pencils appear from out of nowhere!
For a second there, I thought you'd cracked my admin session somehow! but it was just a quick-hack I hadn't yet made "admin only"
I have some server issues to work out with the comment script editing, and the insertion code needs to be written, but yes, soon you will be able to edit your own most recent posts.
Back to the router, yes, 20 rules could become limiting, but if you arrange your port usage so that you can create rules with ranges of ports, you should have enough space.
There's nothing to stop you putting every single p2p application on your system into a range of, say, ten ports, even all on the same port! Then one wee rule would cover everything! TCP/IP is robust enough to work out where all the packets are supposed to go. For instance, simple tabbed web browsing can entail dozens of separate connexions to many different servers, all happening on port 80, and all happening in perfect order!
have fun!.
;o)
right so say for instance i set limewire 2 run on port 7000 on my comp, 7001 on mums comp, and BT to run on 7003-7008 on mine, 7009-7014 on mums, set my static IP 2 192.168.1.4 and mums to 192.168.1.5, then i would just need the 2 rules on my server that would cover both apps for both comps??
teh rules... i think =P
create nat rule entry ruleid 7000 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.5 lcladdrto 192.168.1.5 destportfrom num 7000 destportto num 7014
and
create nat rule entry ruleid 7001 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.4 lcladdrto 192.168.1.4 destportfrom num 7000 destportto num 7014
so if i'm thinkin right that setup would allow both BT and Limewire to run on Both comps, just using the 2 rules???
where do you learn all this stuff lol =P
also i'm thinkin of creating my own website, but i dont wanna pay for it, i've done some searching on google for hosting a website from your own comp, but can only find stuff for something called IIS(internet information server) and was wondering if it was possible for me to host my own website using my internet connection?? is there any like web hosting program available to me, so i can set this up??? also if it is possible i'm not quite sure how it would work....would i just use my proper IP address as the address for the website or would i be able to register a doamin name??
Thanx,
Bael
Hey cor, after finaly getting my Xbox live and Torrents running i keep getin loged of msn every few minutes and i think my modem may be stoping every few minutes :'( Can u help plz?
well i did some more searching, and it turns out that microsoft are scammin me again lol xD
so looks like im installing a second HDD =P lol i have my modded xbox's original HDD somewhere =D a massive 8gb :P i replaced the one from my xbox with a 40gb 2 1/2inch hdd i had from a broken laptop :) so i'll install this lil crappy xbox hdd and install win xp pro on it jsut for the IIS thing xD
and Mick i had that problem when i 1st started coming here.....if i did to much demanding stuff on teh internet the router would just pack up and i would have 2 restart it or the comp to get it to work again xD but we found that it was teh fact that the router was connected to my comp by the crappy USB lol xD forgo what cors technical terms were tho lol =S
First, importantly, DO NOT USE IIS!!! (or ANY microsoft web server! trust me on that one!)
okay, Bael, your rules won't work. They can't be allowed to overlap. The router has to know, definitively, where to send requests on a particular port. With your rules, if a request came in on port 7000, which machine would get it???
Better; Your puter; limewire 7000, Torrents 7002, WinMX 7004, etc. Mums puter, limewire 8000, torrents 8002, etc. see?
And YES! you sure can can run a web server at home! The best (by miles and miles and miles) is Apache, and you can get a nice windows installer (with php and mysql and all that jazz thrown in, setup, and ready to rock) right here.
Apache can be had in many forms, source packages, binaries, you name it; but easyphp is a great place to start if you're windows webserving n00b. Some folk say it's resource hungry, but that's nonsense; I have a (very old) Laptop (Pentium 133 - for kids!) running window98, with 16MB of ram, and Apache runs great on it!
For a domain, use a dynamic domain name, like corz.ath.cx is. Sign up with dyndns.org and get your 205 to do all that nasty DUC stuff automatically. No raw IP's required!
Even with these easy options, expect to spend a fair bit of time googling, and tweaking and whatnot. It's worth it, though.
By the way, what possesed you get XP home edition!
Mick, it sounds like you're overloading the thing! (I'm assuming you're using ethernet, otherwise this would be an easy call!) First, make sure your torrent client (azureus!!!) isn't using too many connexions for itself, especially if you have an intensive game running at the same time. You've tweaked the session to the max of 512, I presume.
Also tweak your TCP/UDP timeout settings as low as you can (so old connexions drop off more quickly), and do watch that upload total ( < 25kb/s or else!)
Games don't tend to use a huge amount of bandwidth, but they do tend to use a lot of connexions, so trim the time-outs, and test test test!
for now..
;o)
ps.. basic admin editing functions now working!
Im not sure what im using lol, all i know is router hooks into my pcs USB port and my xbox uses the other, i never play games and download at the same time but could it just be me overloading because im seeding 1 torrent and downloading+uploading another so mabey im using 2 much upload. Also how would i "tweak my TCP/UDP timeout settings"? Thx a bunch.
Mick that's your problem right there then ;) dont use usb to connect to your router....causes lots of problems, purchase a switch, and connect both your xbox and pc to the ethernet port on your 205, theres a link further up the comment page to a switch in a post made by me, or there is also a link at the bottom of the main 205 page.
lol Cor i didnt choose Home....it came ready installed on my pc.....and back then i saw no reason to get Pro xD
I'll be checkin the Apache thing now then =D if i get stuck you know where i'll be comin lol
Thanx,
Bael
Jus stoped seeding the other torrent, restarted pc and now downloading 1 torrent without seeding, im getin a decent speed now, i can browse the internet and use msn, very weird :S lol.
Pc is running thru usb for definate i checked beal, My last modem used usb also and i sotrive took out the Card in the back of the Pc with the 56k modem thing on it :S Xbox NEEDs ethernet so im stuck with usb for pc, if a switch is complicated to put in forget it lol ive broke this dam pc so many times it aint funny.
no the switch aint complicated Mick think all you would have to do is keep the exact same config you have now, purchase the ethernet switch, and also a couple more straight thru ethernet cables....not cross-over cables =D then just plug every cable into the switch and thenj the other ends into your, PC, Xbox and 25 and then you should be off......i had the exact same problem as you when i had the router connected by USB...switching to ethernet makes a MASSIVE difference =D
Bael
Cool bael, thanks, are u sure about the ethernet and not crossever cables for the xbox part because im not sure but its either u need crossover or ethernet for xbox and i aint sure which lol. Where would i buy 1 of these switches and how much would they set you back? Is the speed better with ethernet? THX a bunch.
well when your doing xbox system link, you do need a crossover cable, but imagine the witch as biengs one massive crossover cable....it like makes seperate connections to each thing connected to it, and makes a crossover cable effect inside of it....my explanation kinda sucks lol.....have a look here and you'll get it =D
one of the great things about a switch is it doesn't matter what type of cable you use. It will sense the cable, and cross or uncross as required. (it's usually called "auto-sensing")
If in doubt.. GET A SWITCH!
yeah, Mick, it sounded like a Pure USB problem, an easy call! You're probably wasting your time with a lot of the other tweaks until you're running on ethernet.
And hey! Bael, you need webserver setup consulatation?
my fees are very reasonable!
early night tonight...
;o)
Cool Thanks, so these are called "ethernet switches" and aer tehy avaiable from most comp stores? Roughly do either of u know the cost of one? Thanks for the help Both of ya
You can get em from PC world for Under a tenner =D i would post teh link i found but it went of this current page lol....an i'm to lazy to go sifting back =D
Click Here
Lol i'm having trouble with the easyPHP already xD it doesnt help that i dont undertsand a word of french lol xD not only that i dont know any php scripting at all lol, think i might just get plain apache and do it in html instead lol :P sure i can find somewhere that will offer ready made PHP scripts i can use =D
an no problem Mick lol helps me sleep at night knowin i can cum here 2 help people, not just leech info out of Cor lol =P
switch the language setting to English!
(it was weeks before I realised you could do that!)
You don't need to know php to run easyphp, and you can switch the php part off if you're not using it (module configuration!) but I'd recommend sticking with the easyphp package until you learn a bit more about it; compared to regular apache, it's, well, easy.
The learning curve is steep at first, but you'll find your feet soon enough.
;o)
K, I've been fiddling around with it, and i thought i was getting somewhere lol, i've edited the config file for apache httpd.conf, and i edited:
ServerName localhost
to
ServerName My IP
and i also setup a static domain name on the dyndns site and set it to the same IP as the one in httpd file, but when i try to connect to goto the domain name i set, i get sent to my Router Config Page =S what did i miss lol xD
Cor, u prob pullin ur hair out over my xbox lol but still havin problems, all i know is... I replaced my 500000 rule i used for stealth with one u said would forward everything from pc to xbox, it stil aint working well, only thing that works for the xbox as far as i know is to make it a DMZ But when i do that... My torrents are slow on my pc and yellow lighted also ur p2p probe says no route to host where as when it is not a DMZ it says Success!!
Im fine with add and taking away rules from the router each time i wana turn pc of and play xbox but is there a simpler way?
Also Bael And Cor, thx im gona get an ethernet switch
Cor, Also spoted what may be a mistake on the site, on the stealth page under the suh-heading "OK! Let's Stealth!" one command says:
create ipf rule entry ruleid 500000 ifname public dir in act deny log enable seclevel high medium low
And the picture of it rule on the configuration page says Log option Disabed, yet when i paste that rule i didnt notice to now but it leave the log option enabled, not sure what this means in the slightest jus thought u shud know lol :)
Mick nothing you do will work, until you get off the USB! So I'm looking forward to supporting your ethernet connexion, very soon! You will find that most, if not all of your troubles will instantly evaporate.
And hey! It's not a mistake! I didn't used to have logging enabled, now I do! There's a section about it in the tricks page. But yeah, all the images could probably do with an update, for instance the IP addresses of the private machines are mostly 192.168.0.1, etc, which I no longer use. But they're only for illustration.
Bael, this really isn't the place to discuss Apache Setup, but briefly..
and when you test your own server, use
http://localhost(orhttp://127.0.0.1). To test from outside, (usinghttp://whatever.ath.cxgo via a proxy!Check out the webserver troubleshooter for some more tips! You may also want to check out the /serv/ part of corz.org, as well as the public archives. There are many php goodies strewn around the place, too.
Note: your copy of Apache came with a full manual, get into the habit of using it, it's quite superb!
for now..
;o)
ps.. Bloody hell! HOW many comments?
hi its me back again
i guess ive been getting it right from the first few visits to this page (so thanks cor),tried it a different way, because using port checking allways gave me the times out error.
People can now join my game server, but only through using my ip, i dont appear in the public servers
let me explain a bit more, been afew weeks since ive been on here
the game needs ports 11001 to 11020 tcp and udp,
and for gamespy 27900 and 28900 udp
so i entered theese rules along with the stealth rules
create ipf rule entry ruleid 11001 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq num 17 destport range 11001 11020 seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 27900 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq num 6 destport eq num 27900 seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 28900 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq num 6 destport eq num 28900 seclevel high medium low
so they can join if i give them ip addy, but i dont show up on thier list, is it a stealth problem??
ill send you full commited file if you want
so if you have any suggestiond on why i dont show up id be grateful
thanks for all the advice previous, at least now i can host games
cheers crusti
hi Cor
ive sent you a copy anyway
i know how much you must love looking at other ppls files LOL
cheers crusti
Lol k cheers cor, So when i get the ethernet switch (soon hopefully) What kinda cable do i need to connect my pc to it? A rj-45 or sumfin? Also were in the pc do i hook it up lol, cus i took out my 56k modem card but i do have a LAN card in the back of the pc still can that be used?
Hey, Im currently having problem's and am unsure about my router.. I've read through most of the stuff here and find it difficult to concentrate, As i don't know what i'm looking for first.. The problem im having is with game program's (e.g- Counter strike).. And would love a step by step guide!, Thanks in advance
MSN- m33k@tsxclan.net
AIM- mikskater15 (rarely used)
Crusti soz man i'm not as smart as Cor an can't help you lol :P
MickYup you use standard RJ45 cables to connect everything together, straight-thru or cross-over =D You jus connect the switch to your pc With the ethernet port on the back of your comp, if you don't have one you need to also buy a Network adapter for your PC
Mik.....
Read through all of it lol...even if you don't need what your reading at this present time you probably will in the future...an if not.....it's always handy to know =D what exactly are you having a problem with?? i mean with the games??? setting up rules for them??? well the first thing you need to do is find out the port the game is using, so for example, Counter strike source uses ports,
TCP - 27030-27039
UDP - 1200,27000-27015
So you would make rules for each of those ports/port ranges,
TCP Ports:
create nat rule entry ruleid 27030 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.4 lcladdrto 192.168.1.4 destportfrom num 27030 destportto num 27039
UDP Ports:
create nat rule entry ruleid 27000 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.4 lcladdrto 192.168.1.4 destportfrom num 27000 destportto num 27015
create ipf rule entry ruleid 1200 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq udp destport eq num 1200 seclevel high medium low
create nat rule entry ruleid 1200 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.4 lcladdrto 192.168.1.4 destportfrom num 1200 destportto num 1024
thats all there is to it =D if you ever get stuck creating rules, just goto the "NAT Recpies Page of this site, and look for the Generic Rules section, it has all you need to know, part from the ports but you can find your ports on the link i provided further up =D you have to define whether its UDP or TCP in the IPF rule =D and always remember to go into the advanced page of your router config page to save any changes you make using telnet :)
Bael
Correction, It's just regular couter striek that uses those ports not source, strangely cs:s aint on that site, it probably uses the same pots as "half-life 2 steam server"
also Cor, i went back to easyPHP, and i am still havin major troubles lol, i've ran through you webserver troubleshooter like 4 times lol xD i have no idea why it ain't working lol, i have set up the htpd.conf correctly telling it to use mydynDNS.ath.cx domain as the server name, i have also added all the rules to my router that are on your troubleshooter, i can connect to it fine through http://localhost but whne i try to proxy to it, i get error 404, and ive tried connecting to it from a friends house incase i was doin teh proxy connect wrong, but i get the same there :(
BUT lol, i've DLed lots of apache books, an am gunna read through one of em over the next couple of days, "Sam's tech yourself apache in 24 hours" sounds most promising lol so ill give that a thorough read through =D
I also think i found another package like the easyPHP one, and was thinkin of givin it a try but thought i'd get your verification 1st lol,since i have no idea WTF am doin lol =P
XAMMP
I think i must be doing something wrong somewhere with the config of the router, cus in apache, servername is set to mydynDNS.ath.cx, and i have the dynDNS updater that updates my dynDNS domain with my current IP address, I've also checked this with the DNS tools link you provided in your webserver troubleshooter. i can access my site, using localhost, but no-one else can access it and i can't using a Proxy, i have used the NAT and IPF rules on your webserver troubleshooter, so i have absolutely no clue what it could be, i have no other firewalls installed xD I'm currenty using XAMMP now, it's actually pretty good, and the forums aren't french so if i ever need help with i can go there....but at teh min this prog is workin fine.....It's my router config =(
Thanx,
Bael
yeah, I knox XAMMP, it comes as standard on SOHO Linux (which I've put on a few machines), but it's more complex for n00bs than easyphp. Also, it's Apache2 now, yeah? Apache2 rocks, but the config is slightly different.
Forget the dns, for now, (and you don't need ANY tools, DUC, etc, the 205 can do it all!!!) can you connect at your raw IP? (normally you NEVER have to even consider your raw IP, but it's a useful check) I can't, I just tried, so it looks like you haven't got the rules in place at all. send me your config file!
I got yours crusti, will have a wee look later (have to go out again right now *sigh*)
Everyone's sorted for now methinks (ta Bael!) oh, Mick, that card you already have is just what you need, I think. try plugging a cat-5 cable into it! (like the one that came with the 205). does it fit?
for now..
;o)
hi cor, i've been reading your pages for a couple of days and i'm glad someone has a site dedicated to the voyager 205. i thought it was a crap little thing until i saw what it was potentialy capable of on you site....
however i have seen no one write about the same problem i am experiencing, therefore i have decided to submit it.
my brother is using the usb port and does not appear to have any problems running emule, i have left him the default ports 4662 and 4672 and we both have our own firewall until we can sort out the complexities of this problem.
i have used a static ip of 192.168.1.4 and i have forwarded ports 40001 and 40002 to my computer for emule. i am able to get high id on edonkey servers and an open connection on kad when i start up emule. at first i get a few links for each of the files i have and sometimes they even start downloading, but for some reason after running for a short time the links do not increase any more and the number of new connections goes down to zero and any files that have started to download grind down to zero. my computer starts to slow down and i have had this same problem on a fresh load of winxp and winme. i have tried increasing the number of tcp connections the router can take to 512 but this makes no difference. when i run a tcp scan using tcpview it seems that when the program starts a huge number of links builds up until the computer grinds to a halt...a lot of these links apppear to have a tcp/ip address of 0.0.0.0. i am lost as to what to try next, any help much appreciated.....
is this the problems caused by the use of the usb port that you mention? even though my brother (the one using the usb port) has no problems?
thanks.....brian.
K man i sent you my Router config, and i cant connect to myself with my raw IP either, for the Webserver IPF rule, ive tried directing it to both 192.168.1.1(which is on the troubleshooter) and 192.168.1.4(my static IP). I was wondering if it might be the fact that i do use static IP, because on dynDNS.org they offer both Dynamic DNS and Static DNS, i have dynamic DNS, but thouhg i might need static DNS seen as tho i use a static IP??? i know i gathered that the 205 could update my current IP from the rules:
create ddns intf ifname ppp-0 srvcname dyndns username "corz" passwd MyPaSSwORd system dynamic wildcard enable
But just wanted to make sure that it wasnt that rule that i had done wrong by getting the prog that does it also :P but it aint that, taht wasnt workin lol, so i guess i can uninstall it
btw Mic i made a mistake on the last UDP rule for counter strike, it's actually:
Thanx,
Bael
PS as soon as i convince my mum to setup paypal, ill be donating lol....I'd do it myself, but my paypal went crazy =S i forgot my password cus i ant used it in ages, and then went to verify it by answerin questions, and apparently i got my own security questions wrong xD so now if i wanna verify i have to fax them some form of photo ID and i dont have a fax machine lol xD
Brian it is almost definetely the fact your connected with USB, your bro might not have problems because he is just runnign emule....USB can handle one p2p at a time lol i had your exact problem when i was connected with USB, if i wanted to DL stuff i could only have one P2P open, if i used a few internet using appz while using the P2P my connection would just pack-up....i couldnt even go on msn while using limewire xD
MAKE THE SWITCH TO ETHERNET!!!!!! since doing it i have had absolutely no problems with speed at all, i now use multple P2Ps and bit torrent at the same time and have msn....and dont suffer either with page load times....an if i do its only slightly...not noticable :P
So find out you ethernet cable...an sort it out =P
Bael
thanks Bael, i thought it might have something to do with the usb....
does anyone know a shop in the uk where i can get a 2 port ethernet hub (london) or do i have to order off the internet.
thanks again
well Brian you are much batter of with a switch than a Hub =D and you can pick a switch up really cheap and they are far superior to hubs :)
You can read about the difference here
You can pick switches up almost anywhere =P i always do my computer component shopping online, as things tend to be alot cheaper than they are in the shops, but you can pick up a switch at PC world for under a tenner =D Take a look =D
Bael
thanks again bael,
one last point, if i want to be sure that buying a switch will put things right could i not ask my brother to unplug his computer from the router and i can then reboot.
we could also reboot the router to be sure.
if i then restart emule should i then be able to run normally as my brothers usb connection is no longer plugged in?
i just want to be sure a switch will fix the problem otherwise the alternative solution would be to get a second bt connection and we can then both plug in independently, admitedly this would be the more expensive option?
??????
thanks brian
brian this confuses me slightly. let me get this right..
You both share one voyager 205 router, you are plugged in to the ethernet port by CAT-5, and your brother is plugged into the USB. He has no problems whatsoever running eMule, and you DO?
Strange! But like you say, we haven't had this before. We know well that a single advanced user plugged into the USB will have many problems, and we know that switching (pun intended) to ethernet fixes these problems. The next logical step is to add an ethernet switch into the mix and have multiple private machines using the internet.
All that stuff is well tried and tested. Your situation interests me. Normally when both ports are used, it's a console on the ethernet port, and in that case, it's the games that are usually suffering, very similar to yourself. very interesting.
Your brother really has no problems at all? Not even with Kad open? This astonishes me. I tell ya, if it's possible to get a machine to run limitlessly by using USB and plugging a second (unused) puter into the ethernet port, then I'm switching to USB! (just kiddin, I'm real happy with the setup here!)
It's about perception, perhaps, check his settings, are yours the same (apart from the ports) his usage, is it like yours? eMule uses plain text .ini file. use a copy of your brothers, altering only the ports. yeah, try again with him unplugged. reboot everything and test different things.
Anyway, remember, there are limits. One single BT package has speed limits and a GB/month limit. One voyager 205 is capable of exceeding both these limits easily. Adding loads of machines to this side of the router doesn't change those limits. If you and your brother need 60GB/month between you, you would probably be cheaper getting a second BT line than paying the top-dollar BT are gonna charge for those over-the-limit GB's they expect you to pay for.
Final thought. You share your living space with your brother and you aren't on a LAN together???. Incredible! How do you share files and stuff?
Right, back to work! oh.. I'm gonna be up all night!
;o)
ps.. Bael, copy-and-pasted the rule? and did you alter the IP?
Hello,
What a fantastic site! Congratulations and THANKS!
Anybody using iVisit (www.ivisit.com) with a Viking chipset based router? I have a D-LINK DSL-502G and have already tried everything - nothing makes iVisit work...
I've read this site 100%, tried all settings very carefully and got no success: iVisit keeps saying that port UDP 9940 is closed.
Any help?
TIA, Roger
Yeah i copied and pasted the rules:
create ipf rule entry ruleid 808 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq num 6 destport eq num 80 seclevel high medium low
create nat rule entry ruleid 808 rdr prot num 6 lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.100 lcladdrto 192.168.1.100 destportfrom num 80 destportto num 80
and what do you mean change the IP of what, I'm thinkin you mean the static IP to 192.168.1.100??? right??? but that would have made a difference surely, as i tried the above rules twice, once as they are, and once with 192.168.1.4 in place of the IP
Roger
I'm not familiar with your router, but i'm guessin with the same chipset they are pretty much the same, so did you disable DHCP mode in your router config?? and give yourself a static IP ion your local machine?? you can find out how to do these on this site if not, if yes, put these rules in your router to open udp port 9940:
firewall:
nat:
then if you want to check if the port is open use Cors p2p port probe....
NOTE: for you to get success on the port probe, you must have the program that need the port running/listening on the port =D
OMG lol i've got it.....I know what i was doing wrong xD
well in the logfile the thing wrong was that i jad the rule set at IP 192.168.1.100, i needed to make it 192.168.1.4 like you said, but i didn't think that would work, as i'd tried it before, proxied and got no connection xD.....BUT when i had the rule setup right, i was proxyin wrong lol....for some reason the proxy server was connecting on port 8080 not 80 so i couldnt connect lol xD should i make NAT/IPF rules for port 8080??
Now just to make a site lol =P Gunna be some long photoshop/imageready sessions in the next couple of days lol =P
Thanx for your help man =D
Bael
yeah dude, it's my Linux server that lives at 192.168.1.100! Hey! You got there! And every troubleshoot teaches you something!
No, you don't need a rule for 8080, although we often connect to proxies on port 8080, they won't connect to the website (in this case, also you) on port 8080 unless specifically asked to do so, like this..
http://my.ath.cx:8080/, I'm guessing something was up with the proxy, note this: whenever you load a new proxy, HIT GOOGLE!Roger, if you've been all through the checklist (ethernet, static IP, removed old firewall rules, addded stealth rules, created port-forwarding rule (pair), etc, etc) the only other possibility I can think of is you're working over too many hops. Trans-Atlantic UDP isn't always completely reliable, for instance.
All Bael's advice is good, apart from, my port probe doesn't probe UDP, only TCP. It's very handy, though; you only need one working port-forward to verify that no other factors are interfering with incoming connexions. If you can configure one port, you can configure any port. success is success, after that it's just twiddling with the numbers.
happy holiday!
;o)
I love bank holidays lol =P just put in a 8hour shift at work :P double time, so that's my new Nvidia 6800LE payed for at teh end of the month for one days work =D
Now to learn how to do stuff like security wise so i don't get hacked lol =P any sites you know of that will help me in learning hoe to apply security settings to all the modules that come with XAMMP?? MySQL, PHPadmin etc.....
also i tried that extension for Firefox, the proxyswitch one, and it worked great, but the porblem was is it caused firefox to take like 10x(maybe a lil exageration lol =P ) longer to open after been completely closed, a new window opens fine when i already have firefox open tho.....so maybe ill just have to leave a firefox window open at all times lol xD
Happy Holiday,
Bael
Hi Cor
Four hours ago I posted a reply (to Bael's message) but I cannot find it here anymore...
Yes, Cor, I did everything you mentioned. I created rules for iVisit, eMule and Azureus. I have port forwarding working 100% for eMule and Azureus. No problems for these two programs. But when I start iVisit, it still says that port 9940 UDP is closed. Besides, there are no statistics (all zeroes) for the corresponding RDR rule. The rule is never invoked.
I would love if somebody could try installing the free version of iVisit (www.ivisit.com) to reproduce the problem.
Roger
Hi Cor
Four hours ago I posted a reply (to Bael's message) but I cannot find it here anymore...
Yes, Cor, I did everything you mentioned. I created rules for iVisit, eMule and Azureus. I have port forwarding working 100% for eMule and Azureus. No problems for these two programs. But when I start iVisit, it still says that port 9940 UDP is closed. Besides, there are no statistics (all zeroes) for the corresponding RDR rule. The rule is never invoked.
I would love if somebody could try installing the free version of iVisit (www.ivisit.com) to reproduce the problem.
Roger
you might have hit preview rather than add my comment earlier Roger, are you sure you created the corret IPF rule??? as it is quite easy to miss if you don't look carefully, but you have to specify what type of port you want top open, and the generic ports on the NAT Recipe list open TCP ports, so if you just edited the port number and added the rule with telnet the ruple will be openin port 9940 on TCP, you this rule:
notice the UDP in bold??
K cor, lol =P i'm currently designing my site, figure it's best to get something ready before i start hostin it lol xD and i have a few PHP appz i wanna install on my site/server =S sympoll (a poll thing) and floodbox(a shoutbox) but the readmes tell of how to install on a web based hired server, using ftp, like changing properties to 0666 to make it writable....how do i do this when the file is actually on my comp???or do i just right click it and makesure read-only etc arnt checked?? also when trying to install sympoll using either proxy or localhost i get an eror message...i havn't tried floodbox yet...i get the message "could not connect to the server database" when i try to add my admin priveleges =S
I'll get some screens of it later...i gotta head out now xD
Thanx
Bael
Bael,
Yes, I created the ipf rule correctly. I did it very carefully. Yet, I checked it again now. It's OK. I even tried disabling the Firewall. No success.
Roger
I mean: I even tried with the firewall disabled. iVisit still says the port is closed.
Roger
are you sure you don't have another firewall installed on your comp then??? it seems something other than the router is blocking the port, as if you disabled the router firewall it should have worked, make sure you have disabled windows firewall, andalso microsoft anti-spyware causes soem troubles aswell.....stopped my Bit Torrent from working properly xD
i'll download this ivisit thing and see if i can get in alright, i need a break from XAMMP it's givin me a headache lol =P
Bael
It is definately something on your computer preventing you from accesing the ivisit....i downloaded/installed/registered on ivisit......then entered the 2 rules i gave you into my router.....and everything works fine on my comp =D
Bael
Bael dude, instead of a network adaptor i have a LAN card in my pc can i plug the ethernet cable into it for my interent, would that work?
Bael,
Thanks a lot for installing and testing iVisit. When you start it and log on, don't you get an error message about the port 9940? If not, try taking the RDR rule out and you'll see the same error I get.
I have Windows XP SP2, but I turned OFF its Firewall.
I don't have any anti-spyware, but I have Norton Antivirus.
I will disable everything I find and see what happens.
This is very strange... three friends of mine have the same error and our computers are different. Only thing in commom is Win XP SP2 and the D-LINK router.
Thanks again!
Roger
hi cor, thanks for the reply, sorry i'm replying so late but i thought everybody had gone to bed....
i'm waiting for my brother to come back home so we can run some more test's, but in the mean time i have one or two bit's of information that you may be able to make more sense of than me.
i have also asked for help at the emule-project hardware forum and it was suggested to me there that the 205 cannot cope with the work load that two computers running KAD puts on it...i don't think they are refering to the number of connections but in some way the CPU load.
i have disabled KAD and as long as i do not have too many items in the download list it seems i can get reasonable results...but again the system will grind to a halt if i add more and more files....even if i keep the number of connections setting down to 50.
when i use a utility called tcpview to see all the open tcp links it seems that when the system becomes overloaded a large number of links with local address 0.0.0.0 and remote address 0.0.0.0 and port numbers between 1000-4000 builds up. it must be this huge number of links that is causing the computer to grind to a halt but i have no idea why this is happening.
as well as these links there are what appears to be healthy links to port 40001 which i have set up as the edonkey port and some other links local address 192.168.1.4(my computer) and various remote addresses and port numbers between about 1000-2000(do these ports not have to be forwarded as well?)
like i say i have no idea what is happening but in view of the interest you showed above i thought i'd pass this over to you.
shortly my brother will disconnect his usb connection and i will run my computer on its own to see if these problems are solved, i will write back the result of this when its down (thats my brother comming in now!).
thanks....
brian
Mick if the LAN card has an ethernet port....Knock yourself out =D teah ya can use it....as long as it has an ethernet port it's fine =D
Roger I didn't get an error when i started Ivisit the first time, i applied my rules before running it the first time, then when i did start it....I got a *warning*
but like i said this is just a *warning*, and i already knew that i had setup a NAT rule for allowing UDP port 9940 so i just continued and everything was great =D
what you mean, try taking out the RDR Rule??? you mean NAT/IPF right??
Bael
Hi Cor,
This really is a great site. Thanks for all the advice. I do have one question though... is it really necessary to stealth the router before you enter the rules to open ports for WinMX? I used a BT newsgroup to get advice on this earlier and was told that I just need to type in the rules in your recipe, but when I read the recipe page you say the assumption is the router has been stealthed. I was also told I would have to connect with USB to configure the router??? I don't want to make a pigs ear of this cos i'm not too confident with this stuff.... some of it is like Chinese lol. Any help you can offer would be great.
Bael,
1 - Thanks for the tests and the report. It happens exactly the same here. I always get the "warning". And iVisit experts told me that if I get the "warning" then my port forwarding is not working. The consequence is: despite succeeding at logon, there will be several users that I will not be able to see.
2 - Answering your question ("what you mean, try taking out the RDR Rule??? you mean NAT/IPF right??")
Sorry for my poor English. I mean: try to delete just the NAT RDR rule that you created for iVisit, port 9940 UDP (no need to delete the IPF rule) in order to force the "warning" to show up - but now I understand that you (too) got the "warning" even having the NAT RDR rule active. You are at the vary same point as I am.
Roger
No, you are perfectly fine, that warning will come up automatically to anyone using a "connection-orientated NAT rule router"....whether they have the port open or not, if you read the warning carefully, you will notice that its not saying the port is closed....it's saying because of your router type you may have to open the port....and you've done that =D I've looked around or a UDP port scanner, so you can see for yourself that the port is indeed open,
download and install WUPS
start iVisit so you have a program actually listening on the port, run WUPS...and lok at the folowing pic, to see my results and how to setup up WUPS before you scan =D
hi cor again,
me and my brother have just finished our tests so i'm letting you know the end result....
basically you premise that the usb port appears to put some drain on the voyager seems to be correct.
when both me and my brother were plugged in (him on usb me on ethernet) neither of us was able to run a full system, we both had to leave KAD disabled in order for our systems not to lock up.
when my brother runs by himself he is able to run a full system with KAD running and getting a good number of connections and good searches.
when i try to run and my brother has no emule running it appears to make no difference to me, i still have to run a KAD free system.
however, if my brother completely unplugs the usb cable this seems to free up some recources and i am able to run a full emule session with KAD. it still seems a little slow but this may be more down to me runnin at 633mhz.
i now have a problem, does this indicate that the voyager can only run enough links for one emule, or if i buy a switch will me and my brother both be able to run emule through the ethernet?
an alternative would be to buy a router/adsl modem that is getting good reports on the emule-project site, the sureconnect 9105, according to reports on the emule site this modem has been proved to run two emule sessions on two separate computers over ethernet. according to the reports it runs these sessions at a good speed to. i hesitate to do this because i wonder if there is a limit at bt's end of things and i may find even if my router can handle the number of connections bt will not let me.
as the switch is relatively cheap compared to the router, which is about 50-60 pounds, i may well try this first and see if we can run two emules through the voyager, unless you can tell me for sure if there is a limit on the voyager???????
brian.
Bael,
Thanks a lot for your help. I really appreciate it.
I will install and run WUPS as soon as I finish this text. It will be a valuable tool for me, but I already know that port 9940 is indeed open: I believe in what you said, of course.
So, let me tell what I did in the last hours. I started iVisit and logged on to its server. I got the "warning". A friend of mine, running the same setup (XP, D-LINK 502G, iVisit, same ADSL ISP) also logged on. Then I started a packet capture with Ethereal. In iVisit, I clicked on my friend's name, asking for a connection. We couldn't connect. I always got timeouts and "user unreacheable".
Then I stopped the packet capture and examined it. I saw that the first thing my iVisit client does is to check something with the server (perhaps it is looking for my friend's IP, his listening port, etc). BUT, because I am starting an OUTGOING connection and because NAT RDR rules do not work for outgoing, this very packet (my query to the server) is treated by the NAT NAPT rule instead! This packet was created by iVisit with source port = 9940 but, after NAPT, it gets source port = Y (where Y is between 50000 and 51023). The iVisit server notices that my source port is Y, not 9940 and tells it to my friend's computer. His computer replies to me with destination port = Y. My router refuses the connection because there is no rule here for port Y.
Conclusion: iVisit is not working here because of the way my router does NAT redirect (RDR - only for outgoing traffic) and because of the implementation of the iVisit network. e-Mule and Bit Torrent do not have this bad design.
This was the best explanation I could find. What do you think? If you have a WEB cam, please try to connect to somebody. You will see that the "warning" is for real. You won't get connected.
Roger
Roger, I downloaded and installed the iVisit software, opened the port, tested with a remote NMap scanned, UDP incoming connexions AOK..iVisit gives me the alert, but everything seems fine. I'm 100% certain I can accept connexions on UDP port 9940. Ergo, iVisit is wrong, or too far away to be able to reliably know my connexion capabilities. Or something else..
Good work on the latest research, so iVIsit uses non-standard connexions? Hmm. Why not simply create an outgoing rule for 9940? Then it would never get to the NAPT rule. TADA!
About your comment, occasionally I have to edit the file over the FTP (I'm working on live editing capabilities) and perhaps I uploaded over the top of it. I'm usually pretty quick, but there's a few risky seconds there!
thanks for the info brian. And Yes, KAD is a no-no with the 205! It does have a limit, 512 maximum IP sessions at once. that's it! I think you missed what I said earlier about self-imposed limits. Yes, you can purchase a heavy-duty router, then Yes, you could have many machines all KADding away, but YES, you'd use up all your BT monthly limit in three days! What's the point?
Trace, no, stealthing the router is not essential, but then, neither are computers, really. the stealthing is important for many reasons, mainly a) security, obviously, you really don't want the "factory standard" ruleset in place! b) it gives us all the same starting point from which to build simple rulesets as needed, and c) makes my life easier!
Goan and just stealth it! Don't worry about messing things up, there's always that wee hole in the back, you can just poke it, and you're back where you started. It's easy once you know how, though. Start with the uber-friendly admin pop-up pages above these very comments. Then open a telnet session (links all over the place) and try a few commands, before you know it you'll be a router wizz-kid, like Bael!
Fact: USB will give you troubles. Please read through the pages here a couple of times, you'll gain a deeper understanding of what's going on, and increase your confidence. Hit the troubleshooter page if you run into difficulties, and feel free to keep asking questions here. We live to help!
;o)
ps.. keep up the good work Bael!
Roger..
K man i actually joined a room to test your theory...which was task in itself lol....it's pretty hard to find a room with someone actually in lol xD i eventually joined a french room and here what i got =P don't mind ma hair lol av only jus got up xD
have you only tryed connecting to your friends?? as they you said they have D-Link routers also.....are you sure thay have theirs configured correctly??
Will do Cor =P
I'm having troubles with XAMPP lol xD i'm tryin to secure everything, and i managed to get it to say secure on everythin on the the security tab of xammp apart from ftp server as i dont plabn on using it.....but when i have everything "secure" and i goto the status tab, it tells me that MySQGL and PHP aren't running, even tho i know for definite MySQL is, and PHP should be all i did was put it into safe-mode xD
Thanx,
Bael
This is a great site! Very helpuful! I have run through all the tweaks you suggested but I noticed something strange that now happens. It seems when I run a P2P (Shareazza, Kazza lite) I am then uable to surf the web with Firefox! ?
Sorry I am a bit green at this.
PS Shareazza itself seems much slower witht he BT 205 as opposed to the BT 105 :( any thoughts?
Meeza how are you connecting your router to your PC?? ethernet or USB?? if you're using USB switch to Ethernet, That'll probably fix your problem, and if you're already using ethernet, have you created NAT/IPF rules for the ports shareazza/kazaa lite use??
Bael
hey bael, using ethernet.
I tried to create NAT/IPF rules for shareazza but am not too sure of myself. am using the following port default (6346) for Shareazza:
create nat rule entry ruleid 6346 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.4 lcladdrto 192.168.1.4 destportfrom num 6346 destportto num 6346
now what I dont really know is if the IP i entered (192.168.1.4) would be correct. I ran through all the rules on this web page as well :)
I got the Shareaza problem fixed by fixing my Nat rules (was an issue of typing the correct IP) However, there still seems a conflict between surfing and P2P use (though MSN Mess. seems ok) Thus if I am using Shareaza, Firefox will time out - any thoughts?
meeza, this definitely sound like a max IP Session thing. Did you apply that rweak? If not, do that now. If you have already, ensure your p2p apps are using a reasonable amount of connexions. you have 512 max simultaneous connexions to play with, after you apply the tweak (192 before rweaking).
The NAT rule looks fine, I'm presuming you also applied the corresponding "ipf" part of the port-forward. 192.168.1.whatever, is the IP of your peecee, whatever you set it to. I use 192.168.1.3 these days.
Bael, I've seen XAMPP do that, I don't use, nor support it, the "integration" seems like a good thing, at first, but it looses it's shine pretty quick. Easyphp put in a fairly standard setup, similar to what you get if you installed the servers from scratch. I pretty much put everything in from source these days, so I don't know where XAMPP is at these days, though I know easyphp hasn't moved much, and that's not a bad thing.
Maybe you could delete everything (keep a backup of your conf directory, of course) and go grab the Apache binary installers from apache.org. The win32 build comes as a windows .msi package, and they've put a lot of thought into the installation, it even has a handy system tray thingie you can start and stop your server with. If you run Apache and Apache2, both servers will be configurable from there. handy.
Then you could do the same with php and mysql, they all have good windows installers these days. You seem like a quick learner, so this may be a better approach, and will give you a more solid understanding of the way these three servers interact with each other.
Read the notes inside your httpd.conf file, they are gold dust! If you have a linux rig, read the httpd man page, in fact, if you're serious about serving up contect, I definitely recommend you get yourself a cheap intel box and chuck linux or bsd on it, after a while, you'll wonder how you lived without it.
Non-Linux users can't check out the man page here, but the version running here on my workshop server works fine *wink* en-joy!
for now..
;o)
d'oh! sounds about right! cheers
well over the next few monthes, i'm going to be totally upgrading my current system, startin with teh graphics next payday =D and in maybe 2-3 monthes i will have upgraded everything bar the motherboard, so rather than sell my current components....I'll buy another mobo and learn Linux =P a guy in my CS:S clan is curently trying to install linux on one of his machines....so i won't be continually botherin you all teh time lol =P
yeah i'll take it step by step lol =P i'll go from XAMMP back to easyPHP and when i'm feelin more confident i'll make the grab the apache binaries =D and install everything myself :)
Meeza
I know you said you had it sorted in a post after this...but:
well that IP would be correct if that's what you set your local machines static IP to =D you did set a static IP right?? and did you disable DHCP mode on your router??
Bael
hi bael, or cor, i'm not sure who's replying at the moment....
i understand now that KAD's connections must be on top of the edonkey connections and this is what takes you to the 512 limit.
i take on board your point about using up your bt allocation of download, but my problem is that a lot of the files i search for are rare and although each file does not have many sources sometimes because the files can be in the list for so long they build up and add up to a lot of sources....i therefor wonder if you know if bt also have a limit on the number of tcp connections you can make, if not i would be quite happy to invest in a more powerful router.
(alternatively i could try to edit the binary upgrade file to artificialy increase the 512 connection limit!!!!)
thanks again.......brian
oh, it's a free-for-all here brian! when the host is working
as far as I know, BT do not limit the total number of connexions, apart from by supplying us with the 205! I don't think it will possible to increse it above 512, the limit is simply the size of the table required to store all the information, and max ram is max ram!
But if you figure out a way, let us know!
Sounds great Bael, I'm considering a new Linux rig myself, it's the future man! best to get to know it now, before Microsoft goes bust and leaves all the Billy Goats out in the cold! (I wish!). It's certainly more robust, and when you've got multiple servers running on one machine, that's important.
The KDE desktop rocks, too. It used to be that Linux was an amazing server but sucked on the desktop, that's no longer the case. many would argue that it's surpassed XP.
anyways..
;o)
hey! I edited that last comment live! in-situ!, you know what this means? apart from no more lost comments (there was only one I know of, but still), it means next, you guys will get to edit your own posts, at least your most recent one.
The plan is, you can edit the post for a specified window of time, or until someone else posts, whichever comes sooner. wadda ye think?
Hopefully I'll get a php session in tonight, and "user editing of comments" is on my list!
;o)
ps... note to self, and double-posting check!
Corz and Bael,
Guys, thanks again for all the help... Well, after a LOT of further testing and reading, I think I figured out where is the failure: for routers based on the Viking chipset, RDR rules are only invoked for incoming traffic... and the iVisit system is incompatible with this kind of port forwarding!
Despite having port 9940 indeed open by that RDR rule for incoming packets, it is not enough. Such "incoming-only" RDR rule allows me to log on to the iVisit server and even join the rooms, but I will never connect to a user if he is also using a router that only does the mapping for incoming traffic (which is the case for all our routers here, based on the Viking).
This is why Bael succeeded in joining the iVisit room. I guess you did not try to actually connect to any particular user. Probably you would connect only to users which are not using a router like ours. You would not connect to users running a router that does the port forwarding for incoming packets only.
Please, do the following:
Access your router via the WEB or CLI interface.
Reset the statistics of the RDR rule that you created for iVisit.
Launch iVisit, play around for a while and close it.
Go back to the statistics and check: you will see that that RDR rule was never invoked during the entire iVisit session (Sessions=0, Packets=0).
So, you'll see that the port forwarding rule thet you created for iVisit does not make any difference.
Please, help: HOW do I create an RDR rule that works for outgoing traffic?
Note1 - I tested the BIMAP rule. It does the trick, but it opens ALL ports... BIMAP is unsecure and is not the solution here.
Note2 - I've read about some newest models that implement a thing called "Virtual Server". I've been told that Virtual Server maps specific ports both ways, being a perfect solution. Unfortunatelly my (our) router(s) does not have this feature.
I did several tests with just one friend. His router is the same as mine. We did all testing talking over the telephone, so I know that his router is configured accordingly.
Roger
Actually, Roger, your best bet might be to employ an ALG rule, this is just what these things were invented for!
Which one, however, is anyone's guess (or research project!) The cuseeme, h323_ras, and h323_q931 algs might be a good start, though.
Have fun! and thanks for the info, nothing goes to waste.
;o)
cor: did you forget me?
no man, my inbox is just a bit snowed under atm. and I think there's at least another two configs in there older than your one!
;o)
ps.. You get a quicker reply if you explain the problem in the email, with the config file! Saves me oodles of time raking around trying to find what the problem was, what's happened since, etc, etc.
Cor,
Glad that you liked the info I brought. And thanks for the hint (ALGs). I will study about Application Level Gateways for the Viking chipset and will post if I find the solution. I would like to hear from Bael about the statistics of his router.
Roger
P.S.1: Excuse me for having spelled "Corz" in my last post instead of Cor. Perhaps I am getting older than I think...
P.S.2: This page was unavailable last night - this morning :(
(BTW, I'm UTC -3). I couldn't open it, but my pings to corz.org were replied 100%.
Hi,
Is there a way to disable the router features of this modem so I can use it with my Netgear WGR614 wireless router. As you know, the eth out from the 205 is a local address by default.
I really hope there is a way because my Netgear router is useless at the moment.
I hope someone can help me.
MiD
Just a bit more info... when I plug the 205 into my WAN port of my Netgear Rtr, the Gear detects the Static local address and I cant surf at all!...
Many thanks.
You've probably had a zillion replies on this already, but.. oh well..!
The reason why a telnet session from a Windows box allows editing on the Command Line is the "Terminal Emulation" mode used.
Windows telnet sessions default to "vt100" mode, which used to be the "default standard" in telecommunications. It was developed by the Digital Equipment Corp. (DEC) for its video terminals, with one of the most popular models being the "VT100". The command keys used for editing the screen have been adopted by most of the world as a default standard (del, backspace, cursor left/right, etc.).
Most of the world that is, except for Apple, apparently.
Quite likely Apple is using ANSI, which doesn't work on a VT100 enabled session.
Depending on the server, it's sometimes possible to issue a command which will change the "emulation mode" into something else, which might allow an Apple to use whatever mode it defaults to, on a router.
Of course, since most routers are operating out of ROM, it's not likely such a command will "stick" (unless you can write it into a session config file), so you'd likely have to issue that command every time you connect from an Apple.
In a Windows telnet session, if you drop down the menu that says 'Connect" and choose "Remote System", a box will open allowing you to enter the IP of the remote system you want to connect to, AND allowing you to change the "Term type" of the session from the default of "vt100" to ANSI, so your Windows session can feel exactly like a Mac session... umm.. well, maybe you wouldn't want to do that. But you could.
(The video terminals you see in a lot of old "computer movies" like Colossus: The Forbin Project are DEC VT100s... trivia for the day.)
Thanks for the excellent site it really helped me setting up my Voyager 205.
However this has had me baffled for the best part of 2 weeks, I am running Azureus and defined the NAT rules as per your site's instructions and Ports Forward everything works fine for about 2-3 minutes Bit Torrents Conect and Run perfectly then they stop and Azureus reports a connection error.
The reason for this I cant find anywhere but I can find a fix which is a complete bodge job, if I go into the NAT rules and change the rules for ports 6881,6969 & 7000 to NAT to those ports but only define the local port number but leave the destination port blank the tracker status stays yellow (NAT Error) but everythign runs fine Torrents Connect and nothing stops. I know this has to be somthing really simple but I am baffled as to what exactly is causing this to happen so any suggestions would be appreciated.
Frustrated, what you need is a bridge. Assuming that the BT Voyager is similar to my D-LINK DSL-502G (same chipset), probably there is an item on the configuration page that will permit the transformation from router to bridge. However, I don't have any further info on how to configure it after the transformation. I suggest you carefully read the manual.
Hope this helps.
Roger
Hi, Cor
I just finished reading the manual of my D-LINK and also some manuals for other Vicking-based routers. Here is an excerpt from the "Advanced Reference Guide for the Solwise SAR-110 ADSL router":
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"Section 13.1.8 - Configuring ALGs
You will need to configure an Application Level Gateway (ALG) if you want to use certain applications such as FTP, SNMP, Real Audio, and a few others across the unit. For instance, if you want to ftp a file from some outside host, or you are providing an ftp server that has to be accessible to outside users, you will need to configure an ALG for FTP."
"An ALG enables the unit to carry out address translations in the entire packet instead of just the packet headers. The mentioned applications need ALGs since they use IP addresses in their payloads also. Most other applications do not."
"The actual translation occurs in accordance with the corresponding NAT rules. The ALG just enables NAT to translate inside the payloads of these specific applcations."
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So, it seems that ALGs will not be of any use for me. I think I reached a dead end. I will never be able to create a redirect NAT rule that works for outgoing packets.
Roger
Hi Cor,
Just spent two days working on this router. Got it stealthed and all seems well except one thing. The p2p port probe is indicating that no port specified. I added the firewall and nat rules for WinMX from the recipe page, checked them on the web interface and they are all there. I've been through the troubleshooter over and over and settings are all fine. Checked the settings on WinMX. These are definitely ok. WinMX is now uploading which is an improvement, but no sign of downloads. Any ideas on what the problem might be?
Trace it says no port specified??? did you actually enter a port for it to probe first lol xD enter the port that winMX uses and click probe me ;)
I'm in abit of a hurry so don't have time to reply to everyone xD
Sorry,
Bael
Hi,
Thanks for the info Roger... but I just cant seem to make the 205 work in 'Bridge mode'. No manual with the modem either... *sigh*
Any ideas anyone?
Hey Cor
I've got a strage problem which you may be able to help with - BT certainly appear not to be able to sort it anyway. I have BT 1Mb connection through a BT Voyager 205 ADSL modem. All set up properly in terms of connections and filters and works fine most of the time - connected to my network via D-Link 10-100M Fast Ethernet Switch - no USB connection to pc or anything - no BT software on pc either. My router is connected to the BT socket via a standard extension lead which i have tried swapping out with a decent RJ11 lead during the problem times to no effect - router upstairs with pc - bt socket downstairs. When working ok, if i go to network connection, there is no Internet Gateway configured. At about 1600hrs each day, through to about 1830-1930hrs the DSL drops out and can't use the internet - sometimes the light goes solid again, but as soon as i try any activity - e-mail download or IE, just drops out again. At the problem times, there is an internet gateway automatically configured in network connections!! I have used the set-up hints on your site for the router and have mapped ports for WinMX but that's all. I run (updated) NIS Pro 2004 and regularly run Spybot, Adaware SE and HiJackthis for finding and removing malware. If you could give any hints i'd be really, really grateful.
Hopefully yours
Phil
hi cor and bael,
just thought i'd drop a note that since entering the command:-
modify nat global udptimeout 120
as found in the solwise sar110 manual, i have been able to run a full emule session through the ethernet connection of my voyager even with my brothers usb still plugged in....its a little slow but that is more to do with the limits of my pc (633mhz) i think.
just in case no one else has tried this (i haven't read all 57 pages, any chance of a search?)
brian.
Cor and Bael,
I had a topic about my problem with iVisit (RDR rule being only for incoming packets) on their forum, but it seems that the Administrators did not like me talking about this over there... They asked me not to post anymore and closed my topic !!!
Could you please verify the statistics of the rule that you created for port 9940 (please, see my comment of 04.05.05 5:19 pm)? Thanks in advance!
hey hey! thanks for giving the new comment code a thorough work-out in my absence!
First, thanks BobR, I figured it might be something like that, but after a bad experience with a termcap file some years ago, I just didn't want to go there! After reading your post, I had another look through my Putty emulation prefs, and found a control for Backspace, I switched it from Ctrl-? (Ctrl-127) to Ctrl-H, TADA! cool! I'd better amend the main article now.
I use putty still for other connexions, but it's been useful for me, here, to try and replicate the setup that "most users" will have, same IP, same tools, etc, and windows telnet works extremely well for this purpose, the idea that I could put a link on the page that would open the same telnet session in every windows machine, is a good idea! But I'll likely go back to using Putty again myself, now that I know! ta m8!
Bloody messin' with my mailserver!
Roger, I'm still a bit shakey, and not quite with it this morning, but that excerpt looks to be exactly what you want, no? Perhaps not. Keep us posted with your continued explorations, though!
It sounds to me like iVisit are a bunch of cowboys! You might want to consider a different webcam application! There's loads of them around, and most coded with at least a vague awareness of current broadband technologies!
Trace, well done! As to the downloading, try a few different files, sometimes that's really the way it is, even with a perfect setup!
Frustrated, check the public archive, there's loads of manuals! (links above these comments) I remember seeing..
Lastly, that's an interesting result, brian, almost the opposite of what we'd expect! Keep us posted with your findings!
back l8r..
;o)
ps.. there *is* a search (see my toolbar), and a damn fine one! but for finding information inside the comments, simply load the page with all comments and use ctrl-F (or better still, "type-to-find" in firefox, camino, etc)
I've been thinking about a "chunk search", something that would return a paragraph of text around a keyword, specifically for long articles (like these comments have become!), but I'm still at the "thinking about it" stage...
Cor
Just to add to my post above - now noted today that i have an 'internet connection/internet gateway' configured (automatically by XP??) in my network connections. But it says that it is 'disconnected' and my modem and all internet activities seem to work fine?
Regards
Phil :-(
Hi folks,
Bael, thanks for the tip yesterday. You were right, I hadn't specified a port for the probe! doh! Glad you couldn't see my red face lol. Wanted to ask about port 6257. Tests say the port is stealthed. It cant send or receive packets. WinMX wont download anything. I even tried files that had over 200 users but no luck. Anybody know of anything I can do about this?
Just checked out the BT firmware dowloads, but do not know which one to get. Current version on my 205 is v1.1. Is there a later version? Which BT file should I grab?
phil, that'll be XP doing some funky UPnP stuff with the router. I usually disable all XP's built-in UPnP services (run "services.exe"), in the meantime, ignore it!
Yeah Trace, you're definitely stealthed on port 6257, TCP, but that's the UDP port, and the probe doesn't do UDP. On the WinMX TCP port 6699, you are accepting connexions just fine, success!
So it's not your router causing the trouble! Maybe you just have to wait in the queue a bit for your downloads. I've only used it twice (to test for this page), and both times I downloaded really quickly. Hmm, you might want to try this in a telnet session, it will make you "pingable"..
graham, I usually recommend v1.6, the one I'm using is available in the public archive (links above comments)
for now..
;o)
Cor,
"that excerpt looks to be exactly what you want, no? Perhaps not."
No... As I said on my post of 05.05.05 5:01 am, it seems that ALGs will not be of any use for me. They can't do the trick... I think I've reached a dead end. With this Viking chipset, perhaps I will never be able to create a redirect NAT rule that works for outgoing packets. Unless somebody enlighten me.
I agree with you that I should find another webcam application, and that's what I'll do. But, before that, I have to finish this issue - if not, I won't really learn how my router behaves. This is the reason for my research. So, I kindly ask you please (and Bael, if he's reading me) to check your statistics of the rule that you created for port 9940 (please, see my comment of 04.05.05 5:19 pm).
Your reply (and Bael's) will be much appreciated.
Roger
Reading the various messages on the "how to" page hasn't helped me much. I can't access the other 50 pages as the hyperlink doesn't work! As an ancient of 70+ who has been working with computers since 1959 I can still get lost. My LAN was a simple crossover patch from PC to PC when on dial-up until BT invented the USB broadband access. I purchased an auto sensing 5 port switch but have failed to get access for both PCs via ethernet. If I can, I'd like to try some of the tips and tricks on this page. Can someone take me through the simple bits to get the LAN set up to talk to my router in the state I got it from BT. I daren't **** my wife's connection
Sorry 'bout this Cor
But in answering "Just to add to my post above - now noted today that i have an 'internet connection/internet gateway' configured (automatically by XP??) in my network connections. But it says that it is 'disconnected' and my modem and all internet activities seem to work fine?" question, we seem to have missed my previous question - also, how do you disable all the XP UPnP stuff? And.... I've got a strange problem which you may be able to help with - BT certainly appear not to be able to sort it anyway. I have BT 1Mb connection through a BT Voyager 205 ADSL modem. All set up properly in terms of connections and filters and works fine most of the time - connected to my network via D-Link 10-100M Fast Ethernet Switch - no USB connection to pc or anything - no BT software on pc either. My router is connected to the BT socket via a standard extension lead which i have tried swapping out with a decent RJ11 lead during the problem times to no effect - router upstairs with pc - bt socket downstairs. When working ok, if i go to network connection, there is no Internet Gateway configured. At about 1600hrs each day, through to about 1830-1930hrs the DSL drops out and can't use the internet - sometimes the light goes solid again, but as soon as i try any activity - e-mail download or IE, just drops out again. At the problem times, there is an internet gateway automatically configured in network connections!! I have used the set-up hints on your site for the router and have mapped ports for WinMX but that's all. I run (updated) NIS Pro 2004 and regularly run Spybot, Adaware SE and HiJackthis for finding and removing malware. If you could give any hints i'd be really, really grateful.
Yours hopefully
Phil
Just a quickie
Has anyone got this same type of problem, or is it jus me? I have to reset my router at least 3 time a week on average as it gets disconnected and it will not connect at all. When clicking on connect, it just says that I have changed my f*&@ing password.
Obviously, I then afterwords have to do all the telnet stuff again...
well sorry i ant been around much lately...been busy workin an gettin drunk lol.....this is just a quick reply to a few posts i've read through quickly...i need sleep lol xD
Roger well i've since uninstalled iVisit, but when i did have it i don't remember having any problems what so ever connecting to anyone, but like you said that may have been because i wasn't trying to connect to someone else using a Viking Chipset router =P but if you'd like i can get with ya on msn (bael666@gmail.com) an reinstall iVisit an try an connect to you so i can see what your experiencin lol =P
Uncle Bob I have no idea how to fix your actual problem lol, about teh restarting (Cor will figure it out tho lol =P) but as a temp fix, as apposed to continuosly inputting telnet cmds to add the rules everytime you restart, i would open Cor's windows shell script in note pad (the one that deletes the default router rules, and modify so that as well as deleting the default rules it adds my custom rules also (not sure if thats possible at min tho lol ant looked at the script in notepad =P but it sounds very do-able :) so that all you would have to do after your restart is run the shellscript =D
Thanx Bael
PS jus looked at the shellscript lol, rather than adding to it, i would make a copy of it, and have one for adding your custom rules, and the original for deleting default rules, that way, rather than adding to the shellscript, you could just locate all the "delete ifp rule....." parts of the script(use ctrl+f and search for delete ;) ) and replace them with "create ipf rule....." and "create nat rule....." hope this helps for now Bob =D
phil, oops, I meant to say run "services.msc", (hit Win key and R, then enter "services.msc") and disable EVERYTHING to do with UPnP, there's two different services, though mine are gone as well as disabled, so I can't check their exact names, one is called "SSDP discovery service" I think. google will sort you out.
Roger, I wasn't impressed with the app, so I uninstalled and deleted it immediately after testing it out for you, so I can't check anything! Try cuseeme! But first, maybe just try an alg!
Uncle Bob, if you commit in a telnet session (or "save" from the web advanced pages) you don't have to enter in your custom rules ever again, the are FIXED! But the dozen or so "automatic" rules (inserted on router reboot) are easily dealt with by the "rad" script, recommended!
By the way, my connexion has been up for weeks, no problem.
grandad, the links work fine! (what browser are you using?) but the main pages have most everything you need. I did a nice wee ascii drawing of your exact network setup on the last page (or maybe two or three pages ago), so you might want to try those links again!
The switch should be fairly transparent, you simply insert it between the peecees and the router. follow this page slowly, branching off to the static IP and stealth pages when those links come up, run through the checklist at the bottom of the troubleshooter when you think you're done. There's nothing to lose except sleep!
which is what I should be doing..
;o)
Cor,
That's OK. I understand you.
About ALGs: As I said before, ALGs are for translating IPs *inside* the payload. They do not translate addresses nor ports on level 4 (UDP or TCP). Besides, they are ready-made, pre-defined in the firmware. One can't create one, and there is no ALG for iVisit in the firmware of the router.
Roger
Bael,
Thanks a lot for offering to meet me on MSN. I thought you still had iVisit on your machine, and I had already prepared a "recipe" for a test... But I cannot ask you to go through all this trouble again. Never mind.
I was going to delete the "recipe", but perhaps it might be of use to someone, so here it is:
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- Install iVisit.
- Stop any application possibly accessing the Internet.
- Access your router's CLI interface via telnet.
- Create rules for port 9940 (firewall and NAT RDR).
create ipf rule entry ruleid ...
create nat rule entry ruleid ...
- Check your NAT and ipf rules, if you want:
get nat rule entry
get ipf rule entry
- Reset the statistics of all NAT rules:
reset nat rule stats
- Launch iVisit, play around for a while and close it.
- Go back to the telnet session and check:
get nat rule stats ruleid |number of your NAT RDR rule|
You will see that the NAT RDR rule was never invoked during the entire iVisit session (Inbound Packets:0, Outbound Packets: 0). All packets were translated by NAPT. Confirm this by issuing:
get nat rule stats ruleid |number of your NAPT rule|
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Thanks guys, for all the help. I appreciated being in touch with you. This a very good and useful site. I'll return here eventually. Congrats to Cor and all others involved. (Maybe this Comments section should be transformed on a Forum?).
Bye,
Roger
thanks for your suggestion. unfortunately i was already at that point and had seen your diagrammatic which confirmed that i had set it up right. i think the problem is in how my pc's are seeing the ethernet. Do i have to set up the system as in your diag. and then run a network set up routine? i disabled dhcp on my router and the pcs and gave them IP addresses on the router subnet. with either pc connected straight to the router all works fine but it goes pear shape when i have them both on the switch. i'm running on XP Home (i know,
but it seemed a good idea at the time! also, i ran all the BTYahoo set up routine. The extra page link was ok i just didn't look in the right place for the messages
Seriously useful site. Nice one!
Why oh why do BT hide the best features? dyndns !?!?!?!
Really would be nice to find a firmware solution to those annoying firewall rules that just keep coming back though.
grandad, double-check your connexions into the switch, some units have a one special port that must be used for the upstream link (voyager), it will usually be marked on the rear, certainly in the manual.
Start with one single machine, switch, voyager, and when that's working 100%, add the other machine(s) After double-checking its network setup as per static IP page, especially checking that its IP doesn't coincide with the first machine.
Actually, start by removing every last trace of BT software, and THEN do the above paragraph!
The static IP page will keep you right. If you are all setup okay, IP 192.168.1.3,4,5,etc, mask 255.255.255.0, DNS server 192.168.1.1, etc, then perhaps the switch is really more than just a switch, and interfering in some way. Exactly what model is it? I'll look it up, see if maybe it's trying to be "intelligent".
Thanks for the info, Roger, I'm sure you'll find something more NAT-friendly for your video-chat needs, iVisit doesn't look to be worth persevering with. Remember, next time ask probing questions at their forum before you download the application, and if the posts get deleted, move on!
And wadda ye mean, Forum? This is forum enough! NO I WILL NOT INSTALL PHPBB!!!
This style suits me better than a full-blown forum, and keeps things in their place, or else you get mixed up with folks who came here not looking for info about routers, but about Karma, or music, or something else, all adds to the mystery, you see.
;o)
ps.. Allen, Oh Man! I hear you! But my wee scripts (available for *nix and windows, in the public archive) do ease the pain somewhat!
Hi, Great site, helped me a lot, but I have one real problem if you could help point me in the right direction that would rule...
I have my 205 running on its normal address ie 192.168.1.1
I have this plugged in to my netgear router, running on 192.168.0.1
this has 4 lan rj45's and wireless too, no problems so far, but I want to open a port for emule, if I try to put the router to the same address range as the 205, I loose the internet, if I set the modem to get address from external dhcp server, it seams to lock as well, is there an answer, or am I just missing something really obvious?
any ideas would be great, as I would like to loose the low id
Hi, Great site, helped me a lot, but I have one real problem if you could help point me in the right direction that would rule...
I have my 205 running on its normal address ie 192.168.1.1
I have this plugged in to my netgear router, running on 192.168.0.1
this has 4 lan rj45's and wireless too, no problems so far, but I want to open a port for emule, if I try to put the router to the same address range as the 205, I loose the internet, if I set the modem to get address from external dhcp server, it seams to lock as well, is there an answer, or am I just missing something really obvious?
any ideas would be great, as I would like to loose the low id
cor - Yes indeed, and very nicely done. The rad script is already sat there in my /usr/bin directory and works like a charm. Just annoying to have to do it at all.
Love all the tips. I recently looked at all my rules etc and they look like a right mess. Thus is there a way I can delete all the changes I have made (Nat and Otherwise) to restore the box to its original state and start again. I think I have a better nack for NT rules etc than I first did when orignially typing them in so I just want to start from scratch!
cheers
-re
reboot
There is a reset switch on the back. It's labelled 'reset' strangely enough.
Stuff a little pin or bent paper clip down there to return to a virgin BT state.
Came in useful for me yesterday after deleting the allowed admin ip's in the wrong order!
Hi - I'm an admin at portforward.com, like most networking sites we get a lot of people with misbehaving Voyager 205s (primarily eMule and bittorrent users who are overloading their routers NAT tables, and also gaming users who can't forward enough ports to get their games working (limited to 20, I seem to recall))
What I'm wondering is if, rather than our standard recipe for Voyager 205 sucess which is to DMZ the PC and rely on software firewalling or an ethernet router, would it be possible to install the firmware from a more fully-featured Globespan Viking router such as a D-Link DSL-502 onto a Voyager 205?
Has anyone ever tried this?
Hi all,
I have a question. I have a 2Mbps connection with BT and I am wanting to connect two laptops to the internet at the same time. At the moment I have one connected via the ethernet port and the other via the USB (yes I know that this is a no no Cor). So I guess I need to get an ethernet switch. So this brings me to my question(s):
1. What switch do you recommend?
2. Will I need to set up additional port forwarding rules through the switch as well (i.e. is it another gateway?)
3. Would it be better to buy a different ADSL router with integrated switch and more ethernet ports?
3a. And if the answer to Q3 is yes which is a good one. I want to be able to push more than the 512 max simultaneous connections through when using eMule.
Thanks.
BTW I am a noob so pleas be gentle.
hi i ve been trying for weeks to get shareaza to run with my voyager 205.
i ve recently learnt that shareaza need more connections than the router can handle.im happy that my router is stealthed in this way.saves all the fuss of software firewalls.but im missing using shareaza.my port forwards r all correct,and my port tests r fine.does any1 know a way to fix this problem with shareaza,connects fine,just poor results really.tried lowering max connections on shzaza but still the same.hope some1 can help or does anyone know which software to use to connect to gnutella
thanx peeps
right, I've been reading the comments here for over an hour, and although I've learned a lot regarding my particular problem, I'd just like to clarify a few things, here goes....
I cannot get winmx working. I have stealthed the router, I have edded the 4 rules for winmx, I haven't disabled DHCP as I've only got my PC and the IP address is always 192.168.1.3, I am using USB (I know before you say it :-D) - still I can't get this working. I noticed a guy named Drifterman had the exact same prob as me, and although he hasn't posted to say whether his issues have been resolved, I can only assume that getting a NIC and a switch has sorted him out. My ethernet port is used by my Xbox and I've not got a NIC in my PC. Do you know if there are updates to get USB working with p2p programs? If not, I will at some point get a NIC/switch and hopefully all will be ok. Can I still leave DHCP on seeing as I don't have other devices on the LAN (the Xbox is static because it had to be seup as a DMZ otherwise I couldn't host any games) and the PC alway gets allocated the same ip address (192.168.1.3) ? Any help would be appreciated and thank for all your great input, you should contract for BTcos you could make a fortune!! None of their helpdesk numpties kow anything!!
Thanks
hi. ive been reading your tips and they are great. but i still cant connect. can you please help me to connect to wanadoo broadband via my bt vayager 205? any help will be gr8. Thanx
Thanks for your assistance cor, we is now cookin' wit gas. The problem seemed to be in the settings for my internet connection. I had clicked the radio button for "needs a password" instead of "always on". I was confusing the need for a password to access my own personal space at the ISP with logging on to the net! Anyway the glory of broadband via ethernet has now reached my hideaway in the wilds of Argyllshire. If you want one, I can let you have a nearly new blue USB patch cord!
Grandad, you're welcome! (I wish I understood everything you said, I really do. Here on the East Coast, schools don't bother with Gaelic, even when you repeatedly request it! Things may have changed now, I guess.)
Truth is, sometimes I have to read things three different ways from three different authors before I understand them, but generally, if folk hang around here long enough, just "soaking" in the all this router talk, it definitely sinks in! good work, man!
Buzz, most of the settings should be the same for wanadoo as they are for BT, (ie. standard UK settings) ..so in theory, you only need to change the login username/password, and you're in. But I'm presuming you've tried that, so go to the wanadoo site and get their broadband settings, just to check there isn't any difference from the above. It may not be PPoA, for instance, so you'd need to change that.
Anyway, didn't wanadoo give you a modem with their package?
deroo, you deserve a medal! I even had to upgrade my "integer to words" php routine to handle thousands of comments! Yikes! (what a waste of code! I mean, who hovers their mouse over the links anyway?)
Okay, my advice is simple; if you have, or plan to have more than one machine connecting to the internet, get a switch! USB is way more trouble than it's worth; even at minimum wage, a switch will be way cheaper than all those hours you'll waste! Switch = £10, NIC = £3. cat-5 cables = $5. These items are a sound investment.
I really don't know what the trouble is with USB, though I've a few hunches. My sticker is still over the port, and it never occured to me to use it in the first place, USB networking just seems rediculous.
As to the BT contracting, how do get into that? I'm effin broke, and this sounds like an interesting possiblility! They've a lot of Voyager 205's out there, and it doesn't take a lot to be more knowledgable than their support staff!
jamie, firstly, there's a tweak to increase the maximum connexions from 192 (the default) to 512, this will definitely make a difference. See the main article, above the comments.
Also ensure you aren't uploading more than 24kb/s, which will max out your connexiona and everything suffers, that's total for your whole LAN. For Gnutella clients, see here.
BrD..
1. any will do, so long as it's not something that pretends to be more than a switch, spend around £10, go for "N-Way" capabilities.
2. no, effectively it should be transdsparent.
3. Possibly. You'd remove the limits, yes, but you'd quickly run into your package limits, ie. 15 or 30GB/month. the 205, setup correctly, has ample capacity to get your 30GB/month, and then some. A better router means you could happily eat your monthly bandwidth allowance every week. whether that's "better" or not, is a matter of personal opinion.
3a. Linksys make some good units, and the remote tech I've done on them has been swift and logical. Many companies make good units, and it's worth googling around the world's networking forums whenever you make this kind of purchase, the landscape changes often.
CdBee, welcome to our humble wee router page!
There has been some experimentation with flashing foreign firmware. We know that solwise firmware definitely doesn't work. You might want to load this page with all comments and do a keyword search, Ian had some success with "rtaplus_2.1.040827a1.zip" on the dynalink.com.au web site (rta100+ firmware), but it seems unlikely that a new flash will remove the max sessions limit, isn't that limited by available memory? The voyager just doesn't have the memory.
As to fort-forwarding, there is a limit of twenty rules, but as you can cover ranges, in practice there in't really a limit, one rule could cover all 65536 ports!
BitTorrent works excellently, and I've been pulling in 60GB/month easily with Azureus, folk just need to be mindful of the limits when they set things up. Our bandwidth is metered as from around now, so it seems kinda pointless to get some monster router to work with a BT ADSL connexion.
Spans, I don't understand how this works in the first place, 205 at 1.1 and netgear at 0.1, I have to presume the netgear has been assigned a WAN-side address in the 1.1 subnet so that the 205 will talk to it. Why not set it manually to 192.168.1.254 or something and try again!
Better still, run the 205 in bridge mode, or somehow pass all connexions straight through to the netgear (place it in a DMZ, for instance), and use the netgear for all the firewalling/port-forwarding stuff, effectively turning the 205 into a plain old modem.
for now..
;o)
cheers cor!! I think I will at some point gofer a nic/switch. Once I get everything sorted (cos I _will_ get it sorted) I'll post to let your good readers know the outcome.
Thanks again mate. later
deroo
Hey, sorry for the absence the past few days xD been busy with work and RL issues....but hopefully it's all sorted now =D
btw Cor, I'm lost as to what to do lol, with EasyPHP, no matter what i do it will not work lol xD....it should defo work...as i'm using the same httpd.conf file that i used with XAMMP, and it worked, and i still have all my router rules setup so there should be no reason why it won't work, I also keep checking my dynDNS to make sure it's directed to my current IP(which it always is thanx to the router =P), i can connect fine on localhost, it's when i go through a proxy i get "could not connect...." and i've tried multiple proxies and tried google first with all of em xD I'm sure i haven't missed anything, could it have anything to do with me putting PHP in safe-mode, cus thats what stopped XAMMP working right =S or that i gave My-SQL a password, rather than jus "root"???
any ideas??
Thanx,
Bael
I was wondering if you had any ideas on this problem...
I was supplied a BT Voyager 240 Router when I signed up for their Broadband Voice package.
Now I've upgraded to OSX 10.4 I cannot get the setup to connect. When I switch back to 10.3.9 (I upgraded a duplicated partition of 10.3.9 in case) It all works fine.
I've been trying out a Voyager 205 Router with 10.4 and can get it to work ok. But I need to use the 240's 4 Ethernet ports to hook up printers/computers etc.
I get green lights all over and auto setups put in right info and it says i am connected ok but no webpages will load. Again swap it back to 10.3.9 and all same hardware/software/settings contact ok.
Any Ideas at all?
I cant seem to find anywhere any mac software for the 240 or firmware updates for it.
It's gotta be something with the router that's stopping it working =S xD i've tried loads of stuff, even tried switching completely to port 8080, and when i use your port probe, before i make the nat/ipf rules i get "connection timeout(probably stealthed)" but after i make the rules and i try to connect i get "Connection refused" and it can't be that apache isn't running/listeining on the port, cus it's running and set to that port, i have no other firewalls installed....so i have no idea whats wrong with it lol xD
Bael
well scratch that lol.....it took me all day up untill 3.30am but i got there in then end =D but now theres another problem, some php/mysql things i installed, worked fine on localhost but for some reason, they wont work for friends or me on proxy, any idea why?? incase your curious what they are, sympoll, a poll thing ;) and this stats thing im not to bothered about, just experimentin wi stuff at the minute, I'm guessin it's got something to do with MySQL cus they are the only things on my server using it, and niether of them work for people outside my comp/me on proxy.
Thanx,
Bael
btw =P what happened to the edit function :) lol ;)
Bael, yer site looks fine! I just got a sleek, black 404 page! The poll thing looks to be sending browsers to an absolute http://localhost/... address, i.e, to their own machine! <-- your clue, sir!
I can't remember what your dyndns is, but connecting on your raw IP works just fine. You'll probably want to change that! (think about it) It might be best if you mail me with the webserver stuff, this page's comments are getting outta hand as it is! Or use the corz.org secret comment thread!
btw, the edit function is still there! but only *I* see it!
Rob, I can't condone using USB, it simply sounds to me like you need another ethernet switch in your network.
My mac's effectively dead, so I know almost zero about Tiger, but a couple of friends of mine have installed it without hitch. If you insist on using USB, probably you're best bet would be to pester BT for updated drivers, or maybe check out some other mfr's website for same (ie. Viking chipset modem drivers for Tiger), maybe solwise, or dynalink. Better with a cheap switch, though.
;o)
ps.. look forward to that deroo, and hey! what about the BT contracting!?!
pps.. Bael, there ya go!
Heh.....It's kewl when i can figure stuff out with clues rather than you just tellin me lol =P twas so simple to =P tho just need get a friedn to makesure it works lol, cus i could get it to work for me on both proxy/localhost, though i've fixed something with the poll seriously wrong xD can't believe i didn't see it before lol, although i still dont know whats wrong with the site stats things, its logging all the visits, but not unique visits, eg from different users, granted it would only be 5 lol, localhost, 2 proxies, u, and one of my mates =P buts thats 5x more than 1 lol =P
Yeah lol....i figured while I'm thinking of something to do for a debut site i'd better have a pretty error 404 page lol :P
Thanx for "teh clue" :P
Bael
btw one day will we be able to edit posts lol :P
and also...how would i go about resticting my site so that it can only be accessed from the dynDNS rather than the IP aswell?
I knew you'd figure it out!
as to the "resticting my site so that it can only be accessed from the dynDNS rather than the IP aswell?", I can see you have considered this! Aye, any old p2p-er could know exactly who they have at the other end of the connexion by simply loading your IP in a web browser, not clever!
As to your answer..
navigate to corz.org/inc/ and load up the comments script by itself, and ask me again there! (this comment file is almost a MB as it is!) I'll tell you all you need to know.
This is in lieu of me putting up a "general web serving issues" page, with comments underneath! which YES, you will be able to edit, at some point, when my "list" gets under control!
;o)
ps.. have you seen my 404 page?
I have a Voyager 205 connected to ADSL with a Buffalo VPN Airstation behind it for VPN access to the network.
How can I get the Airstation to be seen by VPN? the WAN ip.
Do I configure the voyager to be a bridge? if so exactly what do I do to do this?
Please help..................
oooo ow'd you get it to redirect to the page that sounds like what you were looking for?? i saw the 404 page for a second and then it redirected me to a foodprocessing picture lol =P
and i'm propa pissed lol....a gas company was doing work onthe gas mains on our road, and one of the workers driled through the phone line, so now i gotta wait for BT to come and sort it out xD in the meantime im using internet at a friends, and dropped a full mb in speed and using IE =( i've told him to switch to firefox but he's to stupid lol xD
Thanx,
Bael
Bael, just delete ie when he's not looking, he'll thank you for it, eventually!
The cool 404 is a FREE download from my php scripts area.. "404, the intelligent 404 handler", it's pretty neat, even if I do say so myself. The "auto-jump" feature, by the way, is optional!
Pottsy, there are a number of ways I've suggested, but no one's really come back with any concrete results for any of them! I don't have the facilities to test that here (another router), what the ref guide recommends is this..
Though quite how that will work over a PPPoA interface is beyond me!
Download the 205 reference guide (links above comments), it's 795k, and flick to page 43 (section 5.8) and follow these steps there. Your best bet would be to export your configuration, apply any tweaks to the text file, and upload back to the router via FTP.
If you try and do all this "live", you might find you lose connectivity with the router. If your uploaded cfg file doesn't work, reset the router and try again. And if that works, let me know!
There are alternative methods, but this one, if it works, would be the best, as you will bypass the router's NAT table limitations (max IP sessions, etc). Other possibilities include placing your wireless router into a DMZ (you can configure the physical ethernet port as a DMZ also).
Eventually I'm probably gonna end up buying a wireless router just to get a definite answer on this one! If anyone is reading this and has successfully achived "bridge mode", PLEASE mail me your config file!
have fun!
;o)
hi im havin a problem with my bt voyager 205 well i think it is that , im using bitTornado to download files whenever i download a file , i get download speeds of under 10k! and upload speeds of 5k. why do i get so slow download speeds? .The ports BitTornado uses are from port 10000 to port 60000 setting on randomise. i connect to my router via ethernet.how cn i make my BitTornado have faster downloads? downloads on the ineternet are fine it is just BitTornado.Iv tryed using a program called 'Azureus' i still get slow speeds.
Also when i log in to my router via telnet 'telnet 192.168.1.1' it keeps saying this message every couple of seconds :
'Thu May 12th 18:51:27 2005 :WARNING : ATM VC Congested : Interface -aa15-0 PortId=7, Vpi=0, Vci=38'
It keeps saying that over and over again whener i run BitTorando.
Any tips? Cheers
Hi,
Just read all this and it looks like you've got my problem with the dropping bittorrent connection sorted (I'll test it when I get home from work).
What I was wondering is if you know of any problems relating to using an old pc with smoothwall on as my firewall, and if this would be particularly awkward to set up?
Thanks in advance.
Milo well first make bit tornado use ports 6881-6889 and switch randomize off(actually you can use any ports, just so long as you adjust the following rules for you router, you can also leave randomize on, but turn it off for now, we'll need it off for when we probe port 6881 ;) ), make sure you have setup a static IP on your puter,then telnet into your router and create the following rules(adjust 192.168.1.3 to whatever you made your static IP):
create nat rule entry ruleid 6881 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.3 lcladdrto 192.168.1.3 destportfrom num 6881 destportto num 6889
then start a torrent downloading, and goto the "port probe" page of this site, probe port 6881 if you get success!!!! it's sorted and you should be getting decent download speeds provided you dont have any other firewall software installed etc, as for the router warning you get in telnet, Cor will have to help ya with the lol =P
Cor well my connection is sorted...good ole BT =/ lol....think i might have to do that to him....he won't know what to do lol.....he's pretty simple....he'll be lost without IE
Jay if you plan on using the old computer with your voyager 205 you don't need a firewall installed at all.....in fact it's reccomended you don't have one installed when using the 205, the router does it all for you :)
Bael
After getting my new BT Voyager 205 Router, and following the helpful guide in here, my emule can now fully connect... but as soon as I do this... my internet connection is killed, ie: internet explorer stops working and anything else for that matter.
What am I doing wrong?
Please help!!!!
Adan.
Adanthe most common cause of this is having your router connected to your puter using USB rather than ethernet, if this is the case, switch to ethernet!?!?!?!
Bael
Yeah, Jay, it's pretty boring having the voyager 205 as yer internet gateway, in the days before, there was always some interesting exploit or other in progress, some battle of kung-fu, but now it's all quiet in the LAN, nothing penetrates! Smoothwall is pretty good, but like Bael says, not really necessary.
milo, don't worry about the messages, we all get them. It's just part of the fun of "consumer" broadband, 50:1 contention ratios and all that.
for now..
;o)
ps.. My host is playing funny-buggers just now, I can't load the "real" version of corz.org, remember there's a mirror here at corz.ath.cx, comments are synchronised hourly (currently corz.org comments replace corz.ath.cx comments, though I might yet get around to a "proper" sync, so that you can use either comment form, in the meantime, watch out!)
hey, just recently bought a bt router and tried to get ftp running from out the box, no luck so went on the net found your site, solved my problems simply and clearly. Iv also noted my router is now stealthed and passes the 'shields up' test. Thanks :)
Automatic firewall removal no longer works with Firmware 1.6. The ability to connect to the router Via Telnet, or HHTP is lost after installing the update, and running the script. Funnily enough the router still works ok, though you can't talk to it anymore.
Thanks for all the tips on these pages BTW very usefull.
p.s.
Any chance of adding a way to add your own IP to the links to the hidden pages, as not everyone has the default config.
Wonder if you can help:
I did something really dumb. I was trying to set up port forwarding for my BitTorrents. I used the Telnet feature. I used the recipe that you have under Port Forwarding and then I pulled up the two recipes that you have under Bitorrents (Firewall and NAT).
One (or maybe two) of the recipes I just cut and pasted into the Telnet, without correcting the IP address to be that of my computer.
So now I have internet access without any problems except for my Bitorrents, which just sit there trying to connect. And you guessed it (this is the idiot part) I didn't save the configuration prior to messing about with it. I skipped right over the section where you clearly say to save your current configuration.
Anyway do you have any ideas on how I can fix it. I have tried to download the newer version of firmware. Tried to restore the defaults via the http://voyager.home and by pushing the pin hole button on the back, but no luck.
Any ideas, or am I going to the store to buy another router?
Idiot#1, you fixed it! you just don't realise you did! Think about it; first you had no BT (no incoming, at any rate, the default), then you applied the (wrong) rules, so you really had no BT, then you reset the router, so now you're back to regular no BT like all default users. You simply need to apply the hacks again, except with the correct IP address this time!
Richard, yeah it does! In fact, I wrote it after upgrading to v1.6 myself, so perhaps it doesn't work with earlier firmware (it does), but it definitely works with 1.6! Did you use the firmware from my public archive? BT have been known to alter firmwares but leave revision numbers the same, just to confuse us!
I don't know why you can't connect to the router by http or telnet, that seems very strange. Perhaps the flash wasn't 100% successful. Might be worth trying that again. What about FTP? Maybe grab the config and see what's up with the http/telnet access.
As to the pop-up pages, there's already a way! This is one of the main reasons I made the php source available (links below the selectors themselves) you only need to make one small edit (you'll spot where) and tada! All the choices are automatically updated.
If you don't have access to a webserver to run the php source (and these days, there's really no excuse for that!) let me know your router's IP and I'll chuck an altered copy somewhere here on corz.org for you to grab the HTML from.
for now..
;o)
OK,
Here is more of the history: It was working and downloading BT's at a decent speeed. I noticed however that other people were able to get the same file at a much greater speed ( 12 kb versus 50-60 kb) I had plenty of bandwidth, so I thought it must be something else causing me to be a bit slower then the other folks. Then I read something on the one of the BT sites about how firewalls/NATs do hender your ability to get/give torrents. It explained that even if you are getting some flow through them using the automatic port opening feature that BitComment (and others) have, you are not getting as much as you should. Made sense to me, so I attempted to open that port up in my Voyager, similar to how I opened it up in my Netgear wireless router.
So in an twist of irony, I went in to speed up the BT's and completely shut them down.
I tried reloading the rules, but no luck. I went to the GRC.com and tested the port in question (6881) which shows up as "Stealth". So they pinged it and my computer did not respond, which is what my problem is. Turned off the XP firewall (allready had that off). Turned off the Norton Internet Security firewall (but I already had my BitComet as one of the trusted programs that could open ports if it wanted to so that shouldn't be the problem).
Is there a way to turn the BT Voyager into just a modem and let my Netgear wireless router do the routing?
Or any other ideas you have would be greatly appreciated.
Ok feel like I am banging my head against a brick wall here, BT Sent me a Voyager 205 to keep my custom ( Was going to switch to UKOnline no restrictions ).
My previously working FTP now doesnt work whilst using the 205. Here is a list of the rules I have applied to try and get somewhere alas to no avail.
Secret Admin Page Selector!
Reset
Advanced Security IP Filter
Set to high
Advanced System Backup Config
Config Saved
telnet 192.168.1.1
Logged in
Note :-
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Welcome to Viking
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GlobespanVirata Inc., Software Release V1.1
Copyright (c) 2001-2003 by GlobespanVirata, Inc.
My Router reports v1.1 which is a different Software release to yours which reports v1.6 (Now upgraded firmware to V1.6)
stealth and security
create ipf rule entry ruleid 5 dir out act accept storestate enable seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 500000 ifname public dir in act deny seclevel high medium low
modify fwl global blistprotect enable attackprotect enable dosprotect enable
Static IP
Control Panel Network Connections Local Area Connection Properties TCP/IP Properties
Use the following IP Address
192.168.1.5
255.255.255.0
192.168.1.1
Use the following DNS server addresses
192.168.1.1
212.159.11.150
create nat rule entry ruleid 100000 napt
Stealth Checked and passed via GRC.com with Blacklist Disabled
create ipf rule entry ruleid 2121 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq tcp destport range 20 21 seclevel high medium low
create nat rule entry ruleid 2121 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.5 lcladdrto 192.168.1.5 destportfrom num 20 destportto num 21
create ipf rule entry ruleid 50000 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq tcp destport range 50000 50100 seclevel high
medium low
create nat rule entry ruleid 50000 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.5 lcladdrto 192.168.1.5 destportfrom num 50000 destportto num 50100
Using Bulletproof to run the server and it reports that it is connecting to 192.168.1.5 on port 21 and flashfxp to connect to server.
Flashfxp trys to login but fails reporting 530 Not Logged In.
Using Dyndns.org & its DUC Program.
GRC reports all ports stealthed.
When attempting to connect to the server through a browser all it does is connect to the router .
Now thanks for reading this far sorry its so long but trying to be as comprehensive as possible :) any assistance you can offer would be more than appreciated and maybe then I could get all this techno babble out of my head.
Cheers
Hi i'm running DC++ 0.668 and have opened up the relevant ports that i'm using. However when it comes to searching i get the message
Your direct connect client has supplied an invalid IP address in a connection request (client sent Missing, you have xxx.xx.xxx.xxx)
there were square brackets round the 'Missing' but post got upset if i left that in.
where xxx.xx.xxx.xxx is my ip. I had it working shortly before (searching) but couldn't send any text in the chat feature so reset the voyager. Any help would be greatly appreciated - or as someones previous comment if you know any way to turn the voyager into a basic modem would be great
oh i am NOT using the usb btw
LJH2005, it simply looks like you haven't deleted the in-built firewall rules. did you? You're definitely not connectable on port 21, that's for sure.
Blacksheep, Idiot#1, I give many suggestions above (some yesterday) about how to turn the voyager into a modem, and as yet, no one's gave me any feedback as to which one's work best, so feel free to scroll.
But generally, that's a mistake. The 205, properly setup is a lovely little firewall, and much more. you probably just need to check and re-check, tweak, etc. Leaving the in-built firewall rules is the number one error, and almost every config file I get sent still has these in place. check for that.
Run through the troubleshooter, slowly (run slowly!), and make sure everything's ticked, usually it's something so obvious you'll kick yourself afterwards.
Back to the "make the 205 a modem" thing, you have to trust me here, connecting windows machines directly to the internet just isn't smart, no matter what firewall you're running!
The 205 provides an extra layer of defense, and makes your LAN safe so anyone, any time, can connect to the net from your home and be safe doing that. It's worth a few hours researching any special protocols you might need, and how to get the voyager to handle them.
feel free to mail me your config files, if you want a second opinion on your settings. remember to save (commit) first.
for now..
;o)
ps.. to do a "real" square bracket (obviously they are used for the bbcode tags themselves), simply double it! [[ http://corz.org/bbtags ]]
oh i am NOT using the usb btw
ok, gone through the troubleshooting and am sure that i've done everything it says there. Noticed my troubles with dc++ were related to me entering my ip with an illegal character, so that sorts out the sending of the ip, however i still can't use the chat features and my internet connection is v unstable keep getting disconnected (more noticable in DC as you gget d/c form the hubs) can i send you my cfg file to look at? if thats ok whats your email address. Cheers
Ive set up my router precisely as mentioned...stealthed and put a rule in for ports 6699 and 6257 and still your port probe cannot access these ports. Ive set up a static IP (192.168.1.3) my routing roules point to that IP address and still no joy!
Any advice?
Thanks
have you put in rules both for the nat and firewall? and have you got the firewall switched to anything but off?
Tony you actually have to have a program listening on the ports before you will get success with the port probe ;) eg if you opened ports 6881 for bit torrent, to get success you would have to have a torrent downloading,if you had bit torrent closed, you would get something like, "connection refused(stealthed)"
Blacksheep Cor's Email :)
Bael
Getting closer, but not there yet. I sent my config file to [fuxake man! I have bbcode tags for this for a REASON! - ed] to see if you have any furthur suggestions. Thank you in advance.
Can someone give me an 'idiots guide' to setting up the Router for streaming shoutcast DNAS server?
I tried to follow a guide on google but it didnt seem to work, Shoutcast still says it cannot see my PC due to hidden ports?
I can get into the IP routing area no problems just need to set up the two ports 8000 and 8001.
I tried to contact BT through the help program but they weren't sure.
Livvid are you able to broadcast okay now?
Apparently with other routers you just click one button to enable port forwarding! lol
Please help as its doing my head in.
well having fun i have beaten my BT 205, and come out with this information, changing over to the RTA100 improved my connection stability problems with p2p *SOME* but def not cure. i currently am playing with ZIPB Bridgeing, this is kinda funny. i have My computer runing zipb'ed on the Primary BT ip address i have my wife's computer runing through the nat firewall and a second nick card pluged into my local network.. this showed major improvment of over 400open connections with major activity and decent stability. i have a bad flashed bt 205 that i am gona try to recover one day, and try direct 100% bridge but i need to install linux so i have a pppoa client LOL.. anyways, with all this work and the many networking tricks and configs, i have found that the best fix is replacing this POS :-) anyone got any exprence with a bt 2100 wireless? for p2p and gen networking? or can recomend a good _cheap_ modem/router bt compat
BTW: i will be uploading the RTA100+ .bin file onto my website www.kleptoweb.com under downloads.. site is not 100% built but working.
Hi all, im running my router through Ethernet. Can i ask, how can i find out if my router's firewall is active. i used get fwl stats but the result
was way above my knowledge. Is it normal for my Ether net light to flash. im trying to use azureus on port 6881 i have to my knowlegde set up the fwl and nat rules correclty, but when i use your port probe it says connection refused. Any help for this number one idiot would be greatly appreciated.
oh and just one more thing, when im connected to Azureus my Firefox seems to Die until i turn off Azureus. Thanks Again
Azureus, the latest version 2.3.0.0 has a new Distributed DB system, this thing can KILL your connection. try turning it off, and make sure your connections are set low. i run Azureus 24/7 and i have 200 global connections with 75 per torrent and 8 Max outbound connection attempts, with Distributed DB turned OFF (plugins.. dist db.. uncheck enable)
for port problem, under Nat Recipes there is one posted for Azureus, it works just make sure you list the port you intend to use (6881) and make sure its pointed to the currect IP Address on your Local Network, you will probably want to setup your puter that is runing Azureus to be static local ip (like mine is ip 192.168.1.5 sub 255.255.255.0 gate 192.168.1.1 dns 192.168.1.1) that way the rule is allways valid, even localy dhcp can switch your ip around mine used to bounce betwen .3 and .4 all the time..
Man this site needs a forum, hmm maybe if the site owner wants i will dump a forum on one my servers.. hehe
Cor,
Your page "Stealthing the BT Voyager 205 adsl router modem" says:
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OK! Let's Stealth!
Like I said, stealthing the 205 is very easy to achieve. We only need to create two rules; the first allowing all outbound traffic, and the second denying all incoming traffic. simple!
create ipf rule entry ruleid 5 dir out act accept storestate enable seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 500000 ifname public dir in act deny log enable seclevel high medium low
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I have been thinking about an issue I believe I am wright, but I would like to have your opinion. My concern is: I think that the first rule (5) is not only allowing outbound traffic, but may be allowing INCOMING traffic as well. Please, see my text below and tell me whether I am correct or wrong. Thanks.
Roger
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Notice that you did not specify the "ifname" nor the "inIFname" for rule 5. So, on the WEB interface, you see the column I/F showing "ALL" and the inI/F showing "ALL".
According to the Advanced Reference Guide for Solwise SAR-110 ADSL Router manual, the reference point for the IP Filter is the router itself. See pages 113 to 121 (Section 13.3): a packet coming from the WAN is an "incoming" packet for the ppp-0 interface and an "outgoing" packet for eth-0. Rule 5 will not care on what interface the packet enters the router because the inIFname parameter is missing. Then we can face this scenario:
1 - A packet arrives on the ppp-0 coming from the Internet. It is "incoming" for this i/f, so Rule 5 will not apply for this i/f. No match yet.
2 - Because rule 5 is for ALL interfaces, the packet will then be checked by rule 5 again, regarding the other interface it will traverse, before invoking next rules (these will only be invoked if a match for rule 5 is not achieved).
3 - When rule 5 is verifyed for eth-0, there will be a match. Here the packet is "outgoing" because it is leaving the router. So the packet will be allowed to enter your LAN. It will not be dropped on eth-0, unless you had specified inIFname as eth-0.
4 - Rule 500000 will not be invoked because there already was a match.
So, rule 5 is not protecting your private network from malicious traffic coming from the WAN side. Perhaps Rule 5 could be replaced by 2 rules in order to allow outbound traffic only:
create ipf rule entry ruleid 5 ifname eth-0 dir in act accept storestate enable seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 7 ifname ppp-0 dir out inifname eth-0 act accept storestate enable seclevel high medium low
However, I could not get a good undertsanding on "storestate" so I am not sure about the accouracy of this suggestion.
Klepto
Cor(site owner ;) )
This style suits me better than a full-blown forum, and keeps things in their place, or else you get mixed up with folks who came here not looking for info about routers, but about Karma, or music, or something else, all adds to the mystery, you see.
and i've been using alot of forums, and i actually prefer this now, well for something that's specifically for one subject anyway, it's much easier/faster to search too, just click on the "all comments" link at the top of the comments section and hit ctrl-f.
Bael
well Roger, you're wrong, but thanks for bringing it up anyway. I wrestled with this myself when I first got the router. Yes I realise the router is itself the reference point, and this seems to create complexity where there isn't any. In short, if you are running a NAT (yes), the bottom line is "in" means "WAN to LAN" and "out" means "LAN to WAN". do..andand you'll see what I mean.
Regardless of the apparent conflict (and remember, none of us have an actual BT Voyager manual!), in practice the simple two-rule approach works best. I could have specified an interface, yes, but then every visitor using USB would suddenly find themselves without internet, perhaps not such a bad thing!
The ethernet interface, by default, is the "private" interface. The ppp interface is "public". If your theory were correct (and it's a good theory!) then rule 5 would never be invoked because, to the router, packets arriving on the ethernet interface (me picking up my mail, for instance) would be coming IN (ie. IN to the router, FROM my peecee), not OUT and therefore wouldn't be caught be the rule. Thankfully this isn't the case! and rule 5 catches every packet arriving IN from our computers!
And you will find that rule 500000 is invoked, and often! If you test the gatweay (from outside), you'll see nothing gets inside our LAN unless there is a specific rule allowing this.
The "storestate" simply means that once a connexion has been initiated (from our side only, going "out") packets are allowed to travel freely back and forth in the same IP session, regardless of which direction they travel. Only in that one single session, though, so for instance, visiting my port probe (beginning a new IP session) wouldn't allow my port probe to connect back to you, even being from the same host. Rule 50000 picks it up and drops the packet (or in my case, redirects it to a non-existant machine, a la "perfect stealth", which is still working great a month later!).
In truth, I tried quite a few different configs, tested them (online nmap scans are your friend) and discarded them before I settled on the two-rule approach, which serves as an excellent starting point.
Klepto, thanks for the info, dude! Best of luck with the firmware hacking, be sure and let us know of any concrete improvements! I haven't upgraded to Azzy 2.3 yet myself because a) I gotta get that queue down first, and b) it tried and failed once already and so I'll wait for 2.3.1. I run it with 400 global connexions, btw, no problems.
forum? why would I want to do that? (thanks Bael!)
OZ, Tony, Hanzo, run through the checklist, dudes! There will be something you've overlooked. Usually it's NOT removing the built-in firewall rules. There are two sets of these. One that re-inserts itself every time the router reboots (use my "rad" script for those) and another which comes as standard. Once deleted, the second set doesn't return. Remember, apart from any rules you've made for p2p/servers/etc, there must only be TWO FIREWALL RULES.
Export your router config. delete the offending rules, apply all the tweaks from this page (timeserver tweak is optional!), etc, etc, and then upload it again via FTP. I thought I made the deleting thing really clear on the stealth page, but apparently not; every config I've had sent to me this last week still has all those rules inserted!
Which reminds me, Blacksheep, Idiot#1, is that better?
And Hanzo, even with the IPSession tweak, you only have 512, ensure Azzy isn't using them all!
for now..
;o)
I follow completely what you are saying (now). I even follow it on the config file, but when I go to upload the revised config file, it overrides my changes and includes all its own standard stuff. The rules 1010 to 1350, etc.
Since I have named myself idiot#1, it is ok to ask this: When I modified the config file I had to use Word or Notepad (tried both), becuase my computer had nothing to associate the .cfg file with. Will word or notepad be causing the thing to not 'take' on the upload?
Unless there is some program required for re-writing this .cfg file, which I can't see why there would be because it is simple txt, I am lost. My plan is to try to delete the ipf rules one by one on a telenet session. Then create the new rules via the same telenet session.
I also followed your advice and downloaded Azureus, but due to the issues described earlier, I have not got it up and running.
One other issue that might be causing some of the problems: My setup goes from my ADSL ethernet to a Netgear wireless router, then to all my other stuff via wireless (bad I know). At one point I was tying my laptop directly into the ADSL router to do the changes. The MAC address of the laptop seemed to get attached to the static IP that I set up in the ADSL router (192.168.1.3 got assigned a mac address of the laptop). Shouldn't it be assigned the MAC address of my Netgear router?
I can't seem to get that one to change.
Any thoughts?
Idiot#1, sounds like there's an error in your config file (the voyager is rejecting it). You might want to export again, and apply the tweaks one at a time, or at least after you've already successfully entered each commend into a telnet session.
Use a regular text editor, on Windows, I recommend either TextPad or UltraEdit. Don't use MS Word, or similar. Any Linux text editor (nano, mcedit, Kate, KWrite - my favourites) will do the job superbly.
Don't worry too much about MAC addresses, clearly it is working, so don't mess with that unless you have to!
;o)
hi
i think your site is great no other like it on the web that i have found anyway
but i cant seem to get my bt voyager 205 router to work under linux
i had i working under redhat but that was a fluke and cant recreate what i did again if you could help me get my router working under linuk mandrake or suse it would be much appreciated
Thanks in advance
Redeye Jedi
Redeye Jedi, simply setup your ethernet adaptor (Mandrake has a utility for this, for sure) and you're good to go! In a console (shell) try typing "netconfig". check out the static IP page, it has all you need.
All linux have very similar configuration files, if you can't find a utility, at least on Slackware (it's been a long while since I've played with any other Linux) you can head along to /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 (or rather, rc.inet(*) * = number of your particular ethernet interface, probably "1" though) and edit in the details in manually. Here's mine..have fun!
;o)
Cor,
Haven't came across it on your page yet, but are you aware of a program called Accessdiver?
http://www.accessdiver.com/
Can't get it working using web proxieson the 205. Any ideas?
Cheers!
Help!
Got shoutcast working now but only after removing:
create ipf rule entry ruleid 5 dir out act accept storestate enable seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 500000 ifname public dir in act deny seclevel high medium low
??????????
Any ideas?
Main thing is I have shoutcast running, is my PC safe?
I use a software firewall.
Oz, gr8 news! maybe it just wanted to ping you! Maybe a rule for that would have sufficed. I don't know much about shoutcast, though I suspect I may do at some future time. As for "safe", that's relative, you tell me! If it's a Windows box, probably not.
Och, if it's just your one peecee with a decent firewall (ZoneAlarm Pro is pretty good), then you're fairly safe, for now, probably, I guess. UPnP is diabled in XP, right? And you're current with your OS patches and firewall updates and all that, right?
Darren, I know Accessdiver, it's used to hack passwords for paysites, yeah? And there are no proxies on the 205, so wadda you mean?
c uz tomorrow..
;o)
Thanks for the help guys, kudos to klepto for the help, i had only had my router a day and then stumbled onto this site, and now im hooked. I cant stop tinkering with my router now. Oh by the way, if someone accidentally screwed there config up by deleting the two rule sets as mentioned by Mr Cor, one set being gone for good, would another person's back up config work on my router if they were the same model. *and no i havent made that err..........yet
Well, Hanzo, if one particular idiot (and to a Sufi, "idiot" may well be a compliment) follows my email instructions, we shall find find this out tomorrow. there's no reason why not, though.
oh, before I forget, COMMIT AND EXPORT!
no, really, bed this time..
;o)
ps.. I offer rehabilitation workshops for router addicts, drop me a line if you need help with that!
Cor,
Thanks a lot for taking your time and giving me a nice and attentive reply.
I agree with you 100% in terms of NAT. The outputs of the above comands show that, *for NAT*, ppp-0 is OUT and eth-0 is IN. However, it is necessary to verify what do these outputs mean. The concept is more complicated than it may seem. Please, check page 98 of the Solwise Manual, section 13.1.2. You'll see that the concept of "direction" for the "IP Filter" has no relation with "direction" for NAT.
Yes, I don't have a BT manual nor a D-LINK one. But I managed to get in touch with the local sales representative of Conexant and he loaned me a hard copy of the Viking chipset reference manual. It’s dated 12 March, 2004. I did not get the pdf file
I carefully checked all data regarding "create ipf rule entry"... We're lucky... the information is the same as that contained in the Solwise manual.
Remember that rule 5 is active for ALL interfaces. It is not invoked when your packet comes from the PC and enters the eth-0 (there is no match, so the “private default action=allow” takes over – see explanation below), but it will be invoked when the packet leaves the router via ppp-0.
I think that I’ve found a good explanation accomodating both your insight and mine to the manuals.
My new “theory”
(Note - If there was a more complete manual, clearly explaining this fundamental concept, no guesses would be necessary. But the manuals that we got, completely neglects these essencial points…)
Contrary to what I said in my previous post, rules are most probably invoked sequencially until the last one, at each interface. This explains everything. Let’s see:
A – A packet from a PC reaches eth-0. Rule 5 checks the packet. It is an IN packet. No match. All subsequent rules do not match also (including 500000, which is for the public i/f only). The packet is then treated by the “private default action=allow” and the packet enters the router.
B – The packet reaches ppp-0, trying to go OUT. There is a match, so no further rules are invoked at ppp-0. The packet is clear to go.
On the reverse flux:
C – A packet comes from the WAN at ppp-0. It is an IN packet. No match for rule 5.
D - Next rules are invoked without any match (unless it is an expected type of packet, for which we would have created a rule - if not, the packet is undesired and must be discarded).
E - Rules are invoked up to rule 500000: here we have a match (packet is incoming at the public i/f). Rule 500000 denies access and the packet is successfully discarded.
My conclusion:
F – Your 2-rules solution works great.
G – Rule 5 can be replaced by the set of 2 rules that I mentioned in my previous post, provided we use “private default action=allow”.
What do you think?
Roger
P.S.#1: Thanks for the excellent explanation on “storestate”.
Yes! That's a more sensible explanation.
I do remember a period of initial trial-and-error (probably my most prevalant style of working) with the firewall rules, and some confusion over the whole business of packet direction, but when I simplified things (in my mind first), it worked best, so it stuck. I usually prefer to KISS whenever possible!
Here's what I've been running myself for the last few weeks, instead of rule 500000..which attempts to forward the packet to a non-existant machine that doesn't live at 192.168.1.200. The attacker gets "destination unreachable" which will fool most would-be crackers.
This is a) a stab at so-called "perfect stealth" and b) a solution for console users who can put their gaming device at 192.168.1.200 instead and catch everything that comes in, well, everything not covered by some particular port-forwarding rule.
Thanks for the input, next I'm hoping someone will come along and properly explain all this
pfrawnonsense!for now..
;o)
sorry but iam new to all this
thanks noj
If it won't accept any password try resetting it and factory standard is user: admin pw: admin
Hi Cor,
I'm back! I've been round the world with this router in the last week! I wanted to ask you about dhcp. I've been having a lot of trouble as a result of this being switched off on the router. I keep getting a bt help message that dhcp mode is switched off and it wont let me use the internet at all. When I choose to ignore this it disconnects me completely. I ended up on with bt on three occasions this week. They discovered that the user name had changed and the router was unable to detect the broadband line. I only run one computer and have no other devices attached. Is it ok to run without the static IP? If I run WinMX it surely will know where I want it to deliver the data. BT were very unhelpful on this and told me that the router is designed for browsing the internet and for email. They told me not to "play" with it again! Couldn't possibly go with that one! The router has ended up back to its factory settings now but I kinda liked it when it was stealthed. Is this something that happens to everyone or is it just me?!
thanks blacksheep that worked i need to set up some udp and tcp ports for a programe so ido not have low id and i would love to get it back to high id any ide's as to how
Hi there,
I have a voyager 205 modem with a netgear WGR614 wireless router on tesco broadband. Is there any way to make this combination work? or do i sell the kit and start again?
Your help is greatly appreciated.
Neil
Trace, it sounds like you switched off the wrong dhcp! The router needs dhcp on the WAN (internet) side, to connect to BT. It's on the LAN side we switch it off! here!
Neil, Yeah, that should work, just plug the 205 into the wan port of the netgear.
noj, see the recipes page. (in fact, read through all the pages, but that's where you'll get your eMule High ID)
l*rz..
;o)
Cor,
Yeah, that's the program (Accessdiver). There is a setting to use external proxies to make hacking attempts to make the attack anonymous. This doesn't seem to work on the 205. Is there a port or NAT issue? Thanks for taking the time to read this BTW.
That is where I switched it off cor! I didnt know you could switch it off anywhere else. The bt help box directs me to that very place to turn it back on.
hey (or, i'd resigned myself to the fact that i'd have to buy a new modem after having been on the phone to the clowns at BT 4 times this week and not getting much further at portforward.com. but now it seems there is light!
i'm on a mac too and was more than happy with my old plain voyager usb modem but after installing tiger it rendered it useless with no driver updates :-(
obviously the sticker is still on the usb port and i'm connected using ethernet and i don't share the connection with another computer. before finding your site i tried to create all these rules using the BT webpages creating separate NAT virtual server/DMZ rules but when i test the ports using tiger's portscan they are not open.
anyhooo i know you've dumbed this page down but i'm not the sharpest tool and am having difficult following your instructions (putting new rules between the stealth rules, when to press enter), sorry. basically i want to open the bittorrent ports 6881-6889 like in your tutorial, also port 50001(i use for azureus), TCP port 4662 and UDP port 6489(edonkey).
i'm not being lazy and feel like an idiot but if you could find it in your heart to write the commands out for me (specifying when to press enter) i would be massively greatful. i just really don't want to screw this up. i have deleted the rules i made using BT's interface and have not typed a single rule into the terminal yet.
thank-you so, so much,
Timbo makesure you have set yourself a static IP on your local machine, to make sure the NAT rules work =P
Bit Torrent:
firewall:
nat:
Azureus
firewall:
nat:
E-Donkey
firewall:
nat:
firewall:
nat:
Hope that helps ya man :P and you can use Cor's p2p port probe to check the ports, just makesure the app that listens on the port is running when you probe =P eg if you want to probe port 50001 make sure azureus IS running before you scan =D
Bael
Darren, it's MUCH more likely that you are either using dead proxies, or have Accessdiver setup wrong. There's nothing in the 205 that would prevent you using proxies with Accessdiver.
/me fires up Accessdiver..
nah, works fine! (anyone want a user/pass for www.coedflashers.com? just kiddin!
You probably just need to run through the rather intimidating preferences. Remember to test your proxies and add them to "My List". Finding a good proxy list can sometimes be a challenge, I know. There are some really fast proxies in Norway just now, by the way.
Accessdiver is a very good tool for security testing (as well as its illegal uses, of course) and one of the best things about it is its ability to flip into different configurability modes depending on the level of "skill" you select.
The secret is not to put it into "EXPERT" mode, unless you are one!
Trace:
That's all I have to say! Send me your config file NOW! (and remind me, in the email, exactly what you're trying to setup), I gotta see this, and no; no one else has experienced this, only you! syat.
Hey Bael, I added a note in the probe along these lines, thanks for the heads-up!
for now..
;o)
After finally managing to forwrd my ports, everything was fine for a couple of days,now all of a sudden when using winmx my router keeps resetting itself! Is it knackered???
Cor,
Thanks for your comments. OK about the "perfect stealth" rules. I'll test them too!
Roger
Where can I get the loadfi.exe utility for emergency direct flashung
the modem ? It doesn't work after upgrade to new image... All LEDs are ligh permanently.
mikle, what you need is in the public archives, called "viking-firmware+cfg_backup+upg+restore_utility.zip", there's a few other goodies in there, too. (links above comments)
Yeah Roger, it works great! Although I haven't actually tested it with a games console, I reckon it will be just the ticket for those, too.
Tony , assuming you haven't changed anything in the router configuration, this is very strange! When you say "resetting itself", exactly what do you mean? rebooting? Open a telnet session with the router and leave it open, then start WinMX. If it does anything unusual, it will be reported in the telnet session, in theory.
I was half expecting loads of "my internet disappeared last night" type posts after BT's outtage (for HOURS), but it looks like they got it fixed (it was a fuse! no, really) before regular people got up this morning!
l*rz..
;o)
ps.. actually mikle, I don't think that's the one you're after. Hmmm, lemme have a rake around, make a few calls, see if I can track it down..
Where can I get the loadfi.exe utility for emergency direct flashung
the modem ? It doesn't work after upgrade to new image... All LEDs are ligh permanently.
Mikle He just told you where you can get it from ;) it's in his public archives, there's a link above the comments section, aww forget it lol, Click Here to download the backup utility =P
Bael
it's that <refresh>, it's a killer!
yeah I know! I know! I'm working on it!
;o)
The modem (Huawei MT-800, a clone of Globespan Voyager) doesn't
respond to address 192.168.1.1 ! So, how can the Viking_Upgrade.exe be helpful for me ? I saw another document, "emergency direct flash.zip" which is exactly about the MT-800 ! And it references to loadfi.exe
to restore the flash via the LPT port of PC. The question is - where can I get loadfi.exe.
thanks for the reply! maybe i'm being overcautious but i've still not typed in any commands yet as i still have some questions.
firstl: how do i know if i have a static IP on my local machine(by local machine i take it you mean my mac)? i know the address for my computer is 192.168.1.1 and using the ethernet it's 192.168.1.3 but when i go on the net it uses all different masks. if it's not static how do i make it static.
second: why do you use the address 192.168.1.4 in the commands you have written for me?
third: why have you written NAT rules for me when in (or's instructions above for creating a rule for bittorrrent he doesn't use a NAT rule?
fourth: when i compare the bittorrent rule you have written to the one (or has written the words towards the end come in a slightly different order. is that an error or does it make no difference?
fifth: (or says that rules must be inserted numerically between the two magic stealth rules. does he literally man that each time you create a new rule you have to type it inbetween the two stealth rules??? or now i have typed in the stealth rules can i just forget about them?
sorry about all the questions i've just not got it sorted in my head what i am doing yet! thank-you so much for helping me, i really appreciate it §:-)
thanks all it do help to read it all ...but did all which it said to do on their and hear and stiil got low id :~(
Doh! somehow i missed the whole page on getting a static IP :oops: sorry
i still need some help with my 3rd, 4th and 5th questions though before i enter the rules you gave me into my terminal. thanks again
mikle, you might want to hunt around the subnet for it. If it's a different model, it may have a different default IP. Check out the angry IP scanner link (above)
If that doesn't work, I've dropped a copy of the infamous loadfi into the public archive, named "loadfi.rar", thanks to Ian(W) for that, go grab it!
Timbo, 3: Yeah I do! look again! 4: the order of the parameters is usually unimportant. If you make an error, the rule will simply be rejected by the router, no harm done. 5: So long as the rules are in numerical order, what time you enter them doesn't matter. You could put your Azureus rule in at breakfast time, and the eDonkey rule in at lunchtime, it'll still work fine! Hey, that static IP page is pretty useful, huh!
The firewall (and NAT) rules are processed in order for each and every data packet that passes through the unit. So long as rule 5 is your first rule, and rule 500000 is your last rule, everything will work as expected. You can add new rules at any time, so long as they fall numerically somewhere between the two "stealth rules".
noj, you have a firewall running somewhere, or else you are using USB.
l*rz..
;o)
Thanks Cor!
sorry to sound like such a moron i'm still struggling.
in the recipes page to set up bittorrent it uses the address 192.168.1.3 but the kind mr. bael who has tried to help me set up the same rule has used 192.168.1.4
i'm guessing i should use 192.168.1.4 because this is the static IP i created following your tutorial but i'm really not sure.
Am i right in thinking i should turn off my os x firewall too as in the tutorial it tells windows users to turn off their xp firewall.
would you do me a favour and just check the rules Bael wrote for me so i'm confident to do them.
big, big thanks!
cor, you're a star - don't know how u have the patience. But yes after getting rid of BT's own rules(not just the ones the script gets rid of) everything now works. Just thought i'd say thanks.
just a thought. is it not possible to completely open the router up so it lets everything through and acts just like a normal modem?
Timbo the IP address in the NAT rules i gave you is your static IP on your local machine you edit that, to whatever you set your static IP to, and since you set it to 192.168.1.4 anyway you can just copy+paste the rules i gave you striaght into telnet, you have nothing to worry about, the rules don't need checking,
1)because they are copied+pasted from the generic rules section of this site with the port numbers and tcp/udp specification changed (Cor knows all, so they must be right lol =P )
2)you don't need anyone to check em, cus if they were wrong, telnet would tell you that there is an incorrect cmd
3)if by soem freak occurance something did go wrong, you can just hit the reset button on the back of your 205 to revert it back to it's BT Virgin State =P
and yeah it probably is possible to make it accept everything, and make it just like a modem....but why on god's green earth would you wanna do that for lol???
Bael
Bael! thanks man.
i just tried copying and pasting the azureus rules you made me. the first rule went in fine but the NAT entry gave me this error: dest-port-to cannot be less than dest-port-from
do you know why?
hello,
i am recovery my DLINK-502G( bt205 clone ) from bad flash,
with http://oldblog.blogchina.com/article_42238.795348.html
I get loadfi.exe and one teimage.bin, put that in same directory,
work for me, on Windows xp sp-2, i set parallel port para SPP mode
i build cable follow pics in the above link work 100% :-)
now will be start port linux inside bt205 clones!!!!
sorry my bad english, i am brazilian
yeah sorry bout that Timbo, forgot to edit one of the ports :P
try this instead:
Azureus
nat:
create nat rule entry ruleid 50001 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.4 lcladdrto 192.168.1.4 destportfrom num 50001 destportto num 50001
that should fix it right up :P
Bael
ok so it created the rule fine and when i launch azureus and test the port from here it's open but then i lose my internet connection??? it comes back after a while then goes again.
also i changed the rules you gave me for edonkey changing 1024 to 4662 and 6489 respectively as i guess that's what you meant to write and when i launch it i get the message 'bad port command' and 'can't find a list of peers'
i am completely hacked off with this now and can't face my computer any longer today. i'm signing out and will try again tommorow. thanks for your help
you're internet keeps disconnecting???
are you sure you are connected to your router via ethernet not usb??
do you have ANY firewall software installed?? actually you mentioned os x firewall earlier right?? uninstall/disable it, also did you max out your IP sessions on the router?? enter this into your roituer:
Bael
Cor,
Cheers. Just thinking about Accessdiver and the settings.... I haven't changed them since changing from dial-up. The proxies I think are OK as I was unable to use them after changing to broadband. Could it be because I've stealthed the router as per your instructions? I have only opened ports for BitComet/BitTorrent (i.e. 6881-6889). I've tried my own nat recipe to open some ports used by the proxies:
create nat rule entry ruleid 8081 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.3 lcladdrto 192.168.1.3 destportfrom num 80 destportto num 81
I do remember when I changed to Broadband it wouldn't work and BT told me to uncheck the LAN settings-proxy server, left over from my dial-up settings. As you can tell, I'm no expert but I'm learning gradually. Again, thanks for your time
to Cor. Thank you very much for loadfi.exe !
Firstly, an announcement..
there is now a ready made configuration file with full stealth, all the tweaks, and the popular p2p applications pre-configured and ready to rock!
It's available here. Download, decompress, read the info file, and then upload the "commitedcfg.cfg" file to your viking-based router via FTP. The router will immediately reboot, and come back up with these new settings.
This "ready made" config comes with no guarantees whatsoever, but could potentially save you a great deal of time, worth a shot. Please give me feedback if you use this. If it all works out, I'll put a prominent link somewhere and make some (more) folks' lives easier!
okay..
Yeah Timbo, I think Bael was testing powers of observation! By the way, I've started using 192.168.1.3 for most things now, seeing as how that's generally the IP that (nasty) dhcp would give you, though not necessarily, which is why dhcp needs to be disabled on the router if we want our p2p port-forwarding rules to be 100% effective.
You might want to try that new ready-made thingie I just mentioned. Although, as I implied, it is setup for a private machine at 192.168.1.3 If you plan to use more corz.org router resources, it might be an idea to get your machine to 192.138.1.3 permanently (it's a five second job in the Network pane of the System Preferences), it's less work, and less confusing if we're all on the same page.
Darren, using a proxy to make a web connexion is almost exactly like making a regular web connexion, the only difference being that you go via a proxy server. You don't need to make any special arrangements, and you DEFINITELY DO NOT WANT TO OPEN ANY PORTS FOR IT!
Proxy servers sometimes exist solely to harvest information from the requests passing through them. For instance, you login to your website's control panel, it's a plain password (unlike pajamas based authentication), and that password has now passed directly through the proxy server. Do you trust these people in Brazil, or Norway, or whatever, people whom you have never met, to look after your internet passwords?
If follows, then, that these same individuals might also be keen to probe machines connecting through their proxy server, looking for any weaknesses. Have the 205 stop dead any of that stuff! I repeat, NO RULES ARE REQUIRED to use a proxy server. Stealth rule one (id 5) covers ALL outgoing traffic, and using a web proxy is always, well apart from a couple of rare exceptions, outgoing-only!
Using Accessdiver should in no way affect your regular browser's web access, though you might want to double-check your Internet Control Panel (connexion properties) and ensure that a (dead) proxy hasn't been setup there. Proxies are really only for testing servers and anonymity (read: probably illegal activities). For your regular internet activity, you want to connect directly to everything.
My guess is that you just need to get yourself a nice fresh proxy-list. You can use Firefox to test them out (hit google!), as well as Accessdiver's built-in testing facility.
Nice link murix! If you'd been here just one day earlier, you would have saved mikle and me a headache! -did you notice, there's a link to loadfi.exe on that chinese page!
for now..
;o)
ps.. Blacksheep, appreciated. It's good to know either way, many folk don't bother. Those factory rules are barmy!
pps.. Bael, what's up with that effin webserver of yours?
All,
After searching a lot and having failed, I ask for help on two issues:
1 - I need to find an ONLINE UDP port scanner, able to scan my WAN IP address from outside of my network, i.e., a scanner which really generates UDP packets from the Internet and sends them towards my router. Besides, I need to be able to choose the port number to be scanned or a range of ports.
Note: GRC's Shields Up does not probe UDP ports, only TCP (probably there must be a good reason, but I don't know why...). The same happens with Cor's Simple P2P Port Probe. The WUPS tool is not a solution too, because it will not produce packets from outside (WAN, Internet) towards my LAN.
2 - I need a tool to be installed on one of my PCs, able to force the PC to listen to any UDP or TCP port that I need to test.
Roger
Roger, the reason most port probes don't scan UDP ports is that it is a tricky thing to do reliably. Other factors can come into play that are nothing to do with either end. I spent a good couple of hours trying to code a reliable UDP scanner one night, very frustrating. One day I might go back to that! WUPS is good, but you need to run it from a remote desktop, and not everyone has access to one of those.
1: I know the address of a very good online nmap scanner (one that scans any address), but I am loathe to publish it for fear of abuse (and its subsequent disappearance, because I use it a fair bit myself). But here's an online nmap scanner that will happily scan you, and only you.. http://www.linux-sec.net/Audit/nmap.test.gwif.html
I hope you know your nmap command line switches!
2: there are a zillion tools that will do this, simply running eMule with whatever port you desire would do the trick, and there are a whole slew of "network security" tools which will run a local portmap daemon, but you'd probably be better served with something like UDP Listen.
For a TCP listen, grab a copy of the±wire, it will usually signal a successful inbound (non-wire) connexion by instantly crashing! One of its more useful security features! Any old server app can do a TCP listen.
for now..
;o)
Cor,
I've got fresh new proxy lists, but when I do a speed/accuracy test (using AD) they just 'Time Out'. There is definately something going wrong somewhere. My AD settings haven't been altered. Could it be an Internet Connection setting? I don't think all proxies have went bad overnight at the same time I changed from dial-up to Broadband :( Again, thanks for your help and advice as I've been trying to get AD running again for the last 5 months.
i did it got high id yea lovly jubbly on emule 45b now how do i get it on emule plus ???
Cor,
Many many thanks for all information!
Thanks,
Roger
Darren, five months? You must want in that site bad!
For all my recommendations, I assume folks have already performed the suggestions here; static IP, stealth rules, all tweaks, etc, etc. Have you? In particular, have you removed the BT built-in rules? They really mess stuff up.
Yes, it may be your internet connexion settings, they should look like this..
do they? The settings I mean, not the colours!
noj, exactly the same way!
Just replace whatever ports eMule+ uses (I didn't know such a thing existed, so I grabbed it and installed. It looks like a good few steps backwards from regular eMule, the prefs are a mess, there's no sign of which ports it needs. Their faq doesn't mention it, and their IRC channel was full of twats. I'll be avoiding it.)
But then I noticed that the preferences dialog has other sections, it's practically invisible until you hover your mouse over it(at least on my setup), but there's "Connection", "Messaging", and "Advanced", as well as the usual "General" settings, so that's not so bad, then.
The "Connection" settings are what you want, and it clearly shows the ports to be TCP: 28927 and UDP: 28958. Simply make rules for those ports, or (better idea) tell it to use the same ports as regular eMule, which you think it would do anyway
You'll also need to drop its maximum connection settings, etc, as with regular eMule.
Roger, I live to serve!
for now..
;o)
thanks i realise that now well i think i could be the winner for stuped posts i have gone through all a coppel of times now the best way for me to lern is tryl and error less the error.....thanks for your time
I have a BTVoyager 205 ADSL router and one PC connected to it via an ethernet cable.
What do I have to do to get Bitorrent to download at a decent speed?
I really need the instructions to be idiot proof because I'm getting old and easily confused. I have enough of this at work with people talking about UNIX shell scripts and the like when I'm hankering back to my days as a cobol programmer where life seemed a lot simpler!
So if the first thing to do is to disable a firewall then it has to be instruction 1. If I never need to arm it again I need to know that. When I read FTP some file to the router I need to know how to do this(I'm talking real idiot here).
This site has got a lot of information, but unfortunately I find the links a hinderance rather than a help. I think it's too easy to get sidetracked to another page when it was probably important to complete the page your on.
Thanks in advance.
Yeah, my internet connections look exactly like yours. Just ran the shell script to do the automatic deletions. Does this remove all the BT rules? I hope it has been stealthed prpoerly, these are the rules I've added. You might notice something missing.
create ipf rule entry ruleid 5 dir out act accept storestate enable seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 500000 ifname public dir in act deny seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 6881 ifname public dir in act accept destport range 6881 6899
transprot eq tcp seclevel high medium low
modify fwl global blistprotect enable attackprotect enable dosprotect enable
create nat rule entry ruleid 100000 napt
create nat rule entry ruleid 6881 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.3 lcladdrto 192.168.1.3
destportfrom num 6881 destportto num 6889
modify ppp global keepalive enable
modify ppp global pppsesstimer nevertimeout
modify nbsize maxipsess 512
modify fwl global blistprotect disable
create alg port portno 7000 prot num 6 algtype mirc
create ipf rule entry ruleid 808 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq num 6 destport
eq num 80 seclevel high medium low
create nat rule entry ruleid 808 rdr prot num 6 lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.100 lcladdrto
192.168.1.100 destportfrom num 80 destportto num 80
modify mctl access httpwanaccess disable
Cheers again. Wish I could buy you a beer!
Hi
still having some probs the modem seems to disconnect ven though on the web interface it'll say that it has been connected longer than the last problem period. On the telnet interface i will get the messages
time/day/date : Warning : PPP Interface Down : Interface - ppp-0
time/day/date : Status alarm: PPP authorization successful : Interface - ppp-0
time/day/date : Status Alarm : PPP Interface Up : Interface - ppp-0
where time/day/date are the times and date etc involved any light u can shed on this and or to make everything more stable would be appreciated
I have just got my hands on the 205 but using another ISP. Complete NOOB to routers but want to use this box with my new ISP. Can this be done?? looking at this I need to get rid of BT built in rules
Cor,
Tell me if the link in your page to the ipf rules is still live. (below the firefox screen showing the ipf rules). I tried it but can't get it to work.
Let me know if it is live, cuzz if it is, I have a problem.
-Idiot#1
Hey Baen!
i just wanted to say thanks for trying to help me. it was doing my head in so much i went and bought a new router!
oh also is the manual online somewhere?
Cheers
Can someone help when I try to add a new nat I cant set the port range I only get rule id,protocal,lan ip address,destination port and local port to change.Can anyone tell me what im doing wrong Id be greatfull for any help.
what exactly are you trying to set?
mental_block, Darren, Blacksheep, karl, go install my new "default+p2p" config, upload it to your router at 192.168.1.1 with any FTP client (FlashFXP is best) and the unit will reboot. See the attached notes for details of which ports are setup for what.
How's that now?
Darren, no the rad script only deletes the rules that are auto-generated when the unit power-cycles, because this is a job that must be repeated. The other rules you delete once, and they are gone. Better still, follow above advice!
If you want to buy me a beer, see the top-right of this, and every other page here at corz.org!
mental_block, if you don't have an FTP client, go to flashfxp.com and download FlashFXP, the best FTP client in the world (and I get no commission for saying that!) Start it up and hit F8 (top of keyboard), enter "192.168.1.1" as the address (no quotes) and user "admin" (again, no quotes, it's a convention; NEVER add quotes!) pass "admin". to recap..
- run FlashFXP (or your favourite FTP client)
- Hit F8 (or whatever, to get a "connect" dialog)
- Enter..
- Hit <Enter>
You are now connected to your router by FTP.Server or URL (address): 192.168.1.1
user: admin
pass: admin
NOTE: In the "quick connect" dialog (F8) go to the "toggles" tag and ensure the "Show Hidden Files" preference is UNchecked.
In the left hand pane, locate the "commitedcfg.cfg" file (which is inside the archive you just downloaded, you'll need to decompress that to get the file out (winRAR is good)) and in the right pane navigate into the "home" folder (double-click it).
Then simply drag the file from left to right panes (this will over-write the old "commitedcfg.cfg" inside the router's "home" folder). The router will reboot the instant the upload completes (miliseconds later), and you can quit your FTP client.
note: depending on the listing method used by your FTP client, you may or may not see any files in the right hand pane, but they are there! if you need to verify this, enter a RAW "LIST" command (right-click in the ftp pane to get the raw commands menu in FlashFXP).
Blacksheep, see the links above these comments, all available documentation is in my public archives.
Mike, load this very page with all comments and search (type-to-find, or ctrl-f) for "wanadoo", it'll be the first or second result.
Whether you get rid of rules or not is up to you, though I recommend you set the unit up as per these pages, no matter what ISP you are using!
Idiot#1, none of the router links have changed on the pages. They are JavaScript, though, maybe you disabled that?
Timbo feel free to send me your old router! I could do with a spare, for experiments. Address on my contact page! (click smiley in toolbar)
for now..
;o)
ps.. did anyone spot how slow the internet has been over the last couple of days? Bloody Star Wars III downloads! I'm off to the pictures tonight. w00h00!
Set everything as per this page, however whenever I run a P2P client (Azureus, Shareaza, WinMX, etc) on any of the 3 PCs connected to the 205, none of them can connect to the net (browsers, mail, IM, etc.). I have throttled the P2P clients down to a dialup connection but still no joy. One of the PCs is a laptop that works fine behind the firewall/router at workbut chokes as soon as connected to the 205. Anybody got any ideas?
John by any chance are you connected to the router by USB?? if you are switch to ethernet!!! if you are connected by ethernet and still having trouble....uninstall/disable any and all firewall software on all three of your puters, also max out the IP on your router, opena telnet session with your router and enter the following:
Cor there is an include cmd in the httpd.conf i sent you lol =P its the very last line.....i wasn't sure at first seen as though you were so adoment lol =P but i went to my sent mail folder and re-downloaded the httpd.conf i sent you, and the include line is there at the very bottom =D but i'm not thinking thats the problem cus i tried having my <VirtualHost> directive in the httpd.conf itself rather than including a vhosts.conf files and i got the exact same results...it still won't work =S
Bael
PS.. StarWars Ep3 Rocks....twas well worth the wait =D only bit i kinda dint like was the cheesy bit at the end when vadar screams "noooo" lol xD
PPS.. Hows the edit feature coming along lol =P lol j/k
Hi cor
Can you please make a "default+FTP Server" config download like you have done above for "p2p"?, Thanks.
Sylver123
Hey Cor, My internet connection has been crazy these past few days, but then you said it was starwars epIII slowing it down, but then i noticed this on my processes tab in task manager,
alg.exe
now i know that seems harmless enough, but the thing is...i dont have any firewall installed(well there's windows firewall, but it's disabled) at all, and i do not share my internet connection either, atm my router is only connected to the one puter =S so after seeing this i went through all of my router settings, checking rules etc... and then when i went to check on my static IP where i only used to only have the one connection in "Network Connections", which is the one where i have my static IP set etc, i now had 3, 2 LAN/High Speed internet connections, and 1 "Internet Gateway", the setting for each are as follows(it will be TCP/IP properties for the LAN connections):
Local Area Connection:
Subnet: 255.255.255.0
D. Gateway: 192.168.1.1
P. DNS: 192.168.1.1
1394 Connection(One of the New Ones =S ):
Obtain DNS server address automatically checked
Internet Gateway
well it says, "connect using : internet connection", and then under settings it has,
Name or IP address of the computer hosting this service on your network: 192.168.1.4
External Port Number for this service: 6881 TCP
Internal Port Number For This Service: 6881
Now i think it might be pretty obvious that it's running on the same ports as my BT lol, and i am having major DL speed issues with BT, im averaging between 10-20kbps DL speed on all torrents, even ones with 100s of seeders, though while my DL speed is greatly affected, my UL speed isn't, i'm keeping it capped around 20kbps on a single torrent, and around 10kbps each when i'm DLing 2 torrents, and they all upload fine, though i think maybe my connection still might be saturated, cus when downloading torrents, i cant use my connection for anything else, browsing etc (it's like been back on USB :( )
You got any Ideas Man??
Thanx,
Bael
Not long had a 205 setup and i was very upset to find the router was blocking winmx. Your lists of commands and help were invaluable and i thank you so much for the help your webpage has given.
I have however a question. I might register with some of these internet mp3 sites (pay sites) and was wondering if more commands
might be needed to get use from these sites?
well i've been testing around with things to see if i can improve anything, and the best config i can find so far is, ending the alg.exe process and disabling the 1394 connection, for soem reason it wont let me permanently delete the connection, i also tried disabling the "internet gateway" but whenever i did that my internet went off for like 10 seconds then the internet gateway re-enables itself automatically, it's like my whole connection is relying on it, tho it never even used to be there =S
Iahve no idea where any of these extra connections actually came from lol, i haven't tried to setup a network or anything lol, you think it could be anything to do with apache??? tho if it was it would have started when i actually installed easyPHP an its only been the past 2-3 days =S
any suggestions man?
Thanx,
Bael
i cant seem to access my router advanced options tried everything even got a new router from bt but still cant access for some reason it sticks on quickstart cant get passed it can someone help me plzz im getting sick of this i cant do nothing without it could someone plzz get back to me
ok now somethings really wierd is going on, i left some torrents downloading last night, and they were going pretty fast after the disabling the elg.exe process etc, but when i woke up this morning(no-one should have to get up this early on a sunday mornin lol =| ) the internet gateway connection i told you had appeared, had gone on it's own, and now my internet is down to a 2kbps on the downloads =( wth is going on??
Thanx,
Bael
Hi Bael
All connected via 100Mb Ethernet switch (blue sticker still on USB), had already set the max TCP sessions. All machines have the unlimited tcpip.sys, all are xp, sp2. I get the ATM Congested message in a Telnet session every min. or so. Had to close Azureus which was downloading 1 Torrent in order to write this.
Hi Bael
All connected via 100Mb Ethernet switch (blue sticker still on USB), had already set the max TCP sessions. All machines have the unlimited tcpip.sys, all are xp, sp2. I get the ATM Congested message in a Telnet session every min. or so. Had to close Azureus which was downloading 1 Torrent in order to write this.
Chris,
Are you by chance trying to connect to the 205 via a wireless connection? If so, try connecting directly into the 205 via ethernet.
I am on a wireless network at home and i experienced the same thing. Not sure why. Hopefully this helps, if not Cor or one of the smart guys will probably know what it is.
-Idiot#1
Hi guys, thanks for this site and getting me downloading again.
but can you answer a question i have, if i switch my modem to use PPPoE instead of PPPoA will it still run or is this a change BT have to make at their end?
oh forgot to ask, When i run bitorrent my DL speed runs up & down between 150 & 20 KB/s constantly you know of any solutions to Stabilise this?
Hey John, not completely certain what it could be, but over tha past few days i've been having some issues with my connection, my problem is that windows keeps creating/deleting internet gateways itself lol...and when the gateway it creates is actually running, at the same time as alg.exe (Process, ctrl+alt+del, then processes tab) my internet slows to a crawl, the only way to get it back upto speed is to end the process alg.exe =| so maybe you have some similar issues, check your network connections to check how many connections you actually have setup, if you are networked with your laptop you probz have 2, and if not just the one router conection, if you have any more you're probably experiencing a similar problem to me, though if you have setup your network to "share an internet connection" it may not be a possibililty for you to end alg.exe on the processes tab of task manager, but if you have both your laptop and PC connected just with thr router through a switch it may be possible to end alg.exe without any trouble, maybe try ending the process as a test, and if anything should go wrong, you can jsut restart your puter/s and you'll be back to where you are now :)
Hope this helps ya man ,
Bael
hi everybody, just connected bt broadband with voyager 205 and applied a number of rules but the problem i have is that when any p2p program is running (downloading) my speed connection decreases dramatically, i can't surf the net while downloading. Are there any rules to fix it?
Thanks in advance for any help.
p2p port probed: 49210
result: connexion timed out. (probably stealthed)
i have done the following
added
create ipf rule entry ruleid 5 dir out act accept storestate enable seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 500000 ifname public dir in act deny seclevel high medium low
then added
create ipf rule entry ruleid 6881 ifname public dir in act accept destport range 6881 6899 transprot eq tcp seclevel high medium low
then did this for Azureus
firewall:
create ipf rule entry ruleid 49210 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq tcp destport eq num 49210 seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 49211 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq udp destport eq num 49210 seclevel high medium low
nat:
create nat rule entry ruleid 49210 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.100 lcladdrto 192.168.1.100 destportfrom num 49210 destportto num 49210
the difference here i noticed is in first line of firewall
2.TCP Flag All is still there??
can someone help as i seem to be having a few problems
Bael, disable ICS/ICF and both UPnP services (and any other services you don't need), letting Windows mess with UPnP is always a mistake!
by the way, did you follow the (web server) suggestions in our other thread?
Retro64, you should be good to go, unless it's a p2p app you are considering. Basically, anything that requires incoming connexions needs a rule, all the regular stuff is taken care of with the first of the two "stealth rules". You stealthed the router, as per these pages, yeah?
chris, try the troubleshopoting page. That one has been dealt with, many times. If you still can't access it after that, get back here!
John, ensure Azureus isn't using more than around 400 total connexions, remember, you only have 512 to play with.
dafty, nah, it needs to stay PPPoA, I don't think BT support PPPoE, but then, I've never tried. As to Torrent download speeds, just get used to it! That's the way it is. Not all torrents jump around like that, but many do. Most of us aren't looking, downloading being a background sorta process (my linux box only makes two sounds, one to say mail has been received, the other, "torrent complete"). THEN you look!
bless, go into the "ready-made" folder of the public archive and download the "commitedcfg_default+p2p.rar", follow the instructions within. In fact I recommend everyone do that! At least all those having difficulties.
And yes, Sylver123, the plan is to have a few different "ready-made" setups that folk can use, but I'm still kinda short on feedback for this one yet, so I'm not gonna rush into that.
Sarge, did you delete ALL the BT built-in firewall rules before you added all these? And, is your machine really at IP 192.168.1.100 ?
l*rz..
;o)
Hey thanx for the help man, but I'm stuck at one of them lol, i successfully disabled UPnP, SSDP and ICS using regedit and services admin tool, and the only way i can find to disable ICF is by going to the advanced properties of the connection, same as where your meant to be able to disable ICS, but for some reason My Puter is different =S this is what i should be seeing in the advanced properties of the connection:
here
But this is what i see on my comp:
you know of any other ways to disable ICF??
No i ant tried those fixes yet, I'll try em as soon as i get my speed problem sorted =P
Thanx Man,
Bael
Bael, Hit Win-R (Windows key, and "R") and enter "services.msc" ( no quotes! :)
tip: the first thing you do when you open your services snap-in is click the column header for "Startup Type", then "Status". Make a habit of it! You'll see why once you do it!
The services you need to stop and disable are..
erm, I was going to do a list here, but I realise I've a) removed the UPnP facilities altogether, and b) renamed the ICS/ICF service to "ICS/ICF", because it's so long it makes the window scoll. BUT, there two UPnP services, and one ICS/ICF, which makes THREE services you need to disable. Rake about, you'll spot them. I definitely remember the phrase "SSDP Discovery service", or something like that.
Maybe that's what you meant by the "services admin tool". Och well, the main thing to remember is that ICS is a service too, and that's where you disable it! There's also a new security service with XP SP2, which I have disabled, but others may want to keep. Probably it will attempt to prevent you disabling the ICF service, so disable the security service before you try. You can enable it again afterwards, if you really must.
Another way to disable Windows' UPnP functionality (and perhaps ICS/ICF) is with x-setup, which can be found here. I have the old (free) v6.6, which is definitely worth looking around for. I imagine the tweak is still there in 7.0 "pro", though.
have fun!
;o)
Yeah Cor services.msc is what i meant by "services admin tool" i was just opening it the long way lol(start menu/all programs/administrative tools/services) I've already disabled the two UPnP services (UPnP + SSDP dictionary service) and i have no ICF/ICS service at all, but I'm not to worried about it cus no1 i found this:
and seen as though i havent needed to do a clean install (yet) of windows i still have my comp set pretty much at factory settings, i also disabled ICS using regedit seen as though my comp is messed up and doesnt show the option to do it in the connections advanced properties =/
Thanx For the help man =D
Bael
Now back onto easyPHP =P
Hello please can you help me
i have recently discovered newsgroups download movies, however i have downloaded a program called binary news reaper now i have added my news server which is news.internet.com now the first time i did this it asks if i want to add the news group which i said yes to now it downloaded then very quickly with a speed of 115.5 kb/s after that the connection goes right down to 0.00 kb/s then it disconnects i have a real strong feeling that it has something to do with this stupid router
please help its really annoying me
thanks
rob
Very unlikely, rob, most news clients open only two or three connexions to the news server, and the 205 can handle 512. And the voyager has no problems downloading at a continuous 240kb/s either, probably much more, but that's as fast as I've had it.
More likely you simply aren't familiar with nntp.
When you first connect to a new(s) server, your news client grabs a list all the available newsgroups, this happens very quickly, then it disconnects.
When you subscribe to a newsgroup, it will download all the available headers (articles, just like collecting your email), or a set amount (if you specify this in your preferences) and then it disconnects.
When you ask for a particular article, or series of articles, the news client (in your case, news reaper) grabs them, and then disconnects.
do you see a pattern?
;o)
Hello, thanks for the info it has allowed me to host cs:s games with my friends, only problem I am having is on both cs:s and battlefield 1942 I cannot connect to any listed servers the latency goes through the roof. I tried phoning BT tech support (Bad idea, they have very little clue) and the snet me to the voyager folk who told me to phone BT back. Anyone got any ideas cause BT, Valve and EA have no clue. Thanks in advance
Calum I experience similar problems when i play CS:S, but only when i am trying to connect to servers across the atlantic, i manage to get in...then i'll lag for like 5 mins, if i'm lucky my ping wil sort itself out an i'll play...if im not(which is most of the time) i get kicked before even getting to play =P the best thing to do is only play in servers that are in the UK, I've found some really good ones, tho i ant really played CS nor any game for over a month now =/
Bael
Thanks for the advice Bael. I wish I could play in just servers that are in the UK however I get maybe 70 servers max most of which are in the US, maybe i'll just wait for the return of cable to Aberdeen... (dam you Atlantic Telecom :-(
hi mate, great site really informative. im afraid im a complete arse when it comes to this stuff so could do with a bit more help if you dont mind. ive been in contact with bt internet and they reckon i cant play battlefield online because it uses port forwarding. ive tried using your info to change to a static ip address and stuff but i still cant get it working. the udp port for the game is 14567. im really struggling to work out how to allow the router to connect over the net to this game., If you could help i would really appreciate it. Your my only hope!!!!!!!. Thanks, Tony
Calum, I used to do a bit of work for channel 10 some years back, and I suggested they "get into ISP'n", and the then MD just went "huh?". Too l8 now, eh? I heard a rumour that the old debts were being cleared so the company could be bought again, but I fear that it was only a rumour.
Looks like we're stuck with BT, I think. Unless the Hydro-Electric trials (13 miles south in Stonehaven) go to plan, in which case we might be looking at 10MB/s in every room! And yeah, damn you Atlantic Telecom! (and who exactly is coming round to remove all those stupid white boxes from the sides of so many Aberdeen homes?)
tony, download this file, and follow the instructions within. Have fun!
Bael, dude! where's yer webserver?
;o)
cor - have an odd one here that I can't find reference to on your site. I have deleted all the predefined rules as per your instructions, but they keep reappearing (I've done this twice now, and saved the config). Any idea why this is happening? I am also experiencing the problem that when I connect to a P2P (eMule), I can't surf the web, and keep losing the P2P connection.
Excellent site, btw - best I've ever seen for tech support.
cor - have an odd one here that I can't find reference to on your site. I have deleted all the predefined rules as per your instructions, but they keep reappearing (I've done this twice now, and saved the config). Any idea why this is happening? I am also experiencing the problem that when I connect to a P2P (eMule), I can't surf the web, and keep losing the P2P connection.
Excellent site, btw - best I've ever seen for tech support.
cor - have an odd one here that I can't find reference to on your site. I have deleted all the predefined rules as per your instructions, but they keep reappearing (I've done this twice now, and saved the config). Any idea why this is happening? I am also experiencing the problem that when I connect to a P2P (eMule), I can't surf the web, and keep losing the P2P connection.
Excellent site, btw - best I've ever seen for tech support.
now are you sure you read through the entires site Orlok mainly this part of the stealth page ;)
In the meantime, you might want to keep a small text file with a few handy delete commands, if you ever need to power-cycle the unit, it's easy enough to drag&drop these into a telnet session.
Better yet, if you run Linux, Unix, BSD, Solaris, OS X, or some similar operating system, you can use this handy shell script to do it automatically back with one simple command. There's now a windows version, too
now download the script(for what ever OS you're running) and everytime you Power Cycle your router run the script and the default rules will be deleted =D
as for the saturated connection.....you first NEED to disconnect from USB and use ethernet to connect your router an puter together,
also makesure you have disabled any and all firewall software on your puter, and also add the max IP sessions rule to your router via telnet,
Hope this helps ya man =D
Bael
now there are links in the post above to the shellscripts for automatic tule deletion, but you can't see em very well due to the colour of the [coderz] tag, so here are the links again,
Linux script
Windows Script
Bael my bad, I missed that stuff. Thanx a lot for the heads up on the script to delete the entries.
I don't use USB - enough hints on the site on that one :) and I have maxed the IP sessions already and disabled BlackICE which I was using as my firewall before I got the BT Router, so I am struggling with this P2P connection thing a bit. I have to admit to being beyond my comfort zone dabbling with this stuff, but boy is it fun! I'll keep trying things and see what happens.
Thanks again
orlok
No Problem Orlok, i was like you when i first started....ask Cor lol.......i was so scared i would mess up...i made this entire site available offline lol...but as you get more familiar with the rules etc it becomes more or less second nature
another thing that might be causing your internet to die, is if you have what i had a few days ago, the jist of it was i had some windows services running that was messing stuff up, UPnP, SSDP, ICF and ICS if your not sure what they are, or how to disable them, review back over mine and Cor's comments over the past 3 days, and you'll be able to sort everything out :)
BTW Cor this site was down earlier, so i went to corz.ath.cx and made a comment in the hidden comments board there....and it was huge lol.....i cant even remember everything i said...and now it has dissapeared lol....on both .org and .ath.cx lol xD is there anyway you can find it....so i dont have 2 try and remember what i put lol =P
Thanx,
Bael
yeah Bael, my host sucks ***, but hey! it's free! I'm seriously considering a pay-host, but I haven't yet found one that has all the ingredients I want.
Comments (you can edit now, by the way, anyone can, there's no security whatsoever, you just have to know which post variables to send!) at the moment, corz.org comments overwrite corz.ath.cx comments every hour, on the hour, but there is a backup made on each "sync" (it will be proper sync, one day), I had a search through, found your comment, and re-inserted it into the "master" comments here. I'll go read it now.
Thanks for holding the fort, I missed my morning session with the host being down, and I've only just got back home gain. fun and games..
;o)
ps.. I've had eMule running these past few days, which is unusual for me, generally I'm 100% torrenteer) as well as my regular Azzy queue (and all my usual servers, web, FTPd, etc), and while I definitely notice a slight decrease in my surfing speed, I've not had any problems at all. Point is, if we set things up right, keeping mindful of the upload capacity (25kb/s top) and IP sessions (512) limits, there's nothing to stop us doing everything at once.
Yeah i'm almost 100% torrenteer, generally because i get faster speeds on it than anything else, and because there is ALOT smaller chance of getting a virus/Fake on it than there is on regular P2P progs, in fact the only P2P prog i use anymore is limewire pro(for teh turbocharged setting, i didnt think it would make much difference, but i get an average of 20-30kbps extra on my DL speeds than i did with the freeware version) but i only use that for stuff i can't find on Bit Torrent =P an when i do use Limewire i usually cap it's upload limit at 5kbps, and share the remaining 20kbps out amongst the torrents im DLin, depending on how many there are :P
also I've downloaded a PHP script I'm planning to install when i get the Virtual Hosts sorted, it's like an online music stats thing for what i've listened to, now what i was wondering, is if it would eb possible for me to elaborate on this and make it work with GD Library so i could display a Dynamic Image in forum sigantures, showing what I'm/i've listening/listened to. I've found one tut that has a similar thing, but it doesnt have the stats system that i want to link to through my sig, think it's be possible?? got any links to tuts where i could learn to do it lol =P think i may need to learn some PHP, presuming it's gunna be alot harder than HTML, but i learnt that in a day lol so should be able to get some PHP skillz if i stick with it =P
Bael
Seems to me, if you can imagine it, then yeah, it's possible.
It's the magic LAMP, innit? Linux, Apache, MySQL, php. And you can do the LAMP on any platform these days, but WAMP doesn't have the same ring to it, does it?
It's not so much harder than HTML, it's just different. It took me literally years to get my head around HTML, but I picked up the fundamentals of PHP and completed my first full project (corzblog) in a weekend. so php is easy, even I can do it!
I have an early programming background, and that's definitely an advantage. php looks to have been written with coders in mind. And although these days I can look at the HTML for a table and actually see the table, believe it or not, the "html parts" of php programming are often still the most challenging for me. Javascript gives me nightmares!
By the sounds of things, you'll be a dab hand in no time. And the reason I'm spending time here, ranting about this, is that you, Bael, are exactly the kind of person I created corz.org for.
You have begun to see the awesome power that is available to us mere mortals in the shape of a web server, and the possibilities this creates. And all that is required to harness this power, to get this marvellous beast to fulfill our wishes, desires and dreams, is a little know-how.
php gives you the power to make web pages come alive, to make real and useful applications that fit right inside this common browser space of ours.
Silly things too; my Jack handy page is still the google top result for the world's largest collection of Jack Handy sayings! You only get three sayings a day, tops, so as not to spoil it for yourself (really, it would spoil it, and thankfully so far, only five people have discovered the hidden link that allows infinite access to the Jack handy archive! - probably more now, eh!)
none of this would be possible without php. and now with the advent of broadband, we can serve up our creations to the world from our very own home! more and more having a real presence in the virtual world, a place where folk can come check us out, drop in. mi casa su casa!
If I had a beefier upload capacity, I wouldn't hesitate to move corz.org to my home server, and that's something I'm looking into.
cheers!
;o)
ps.. another magic thing about the LAMP, is that it's 100% FREE.
yeah, I'm kinda excited bout this, tho i think i might wait for a week or two before starting his, as i have alot of work on next few weeks and i won't be able to get into it as much as i'd like to, and i don't know what it is about computers lol...but i just love them.....i love learning about all aspects of them =D and up until 6-7monthes ago i'd never even used a computer properly, i mean i messed about at school with microsoft word/powerpoint/excel but thats it lol...and i didnt even get to do that alot seen as though i didnt do IT as a subject...i got lumbered with Business and Communications instead xD though I'm taking ICT A-Level at college in september =D Can't wait. Is it possible to create a multi-boot enviroment for both windows and linux?? i have 2 HDD's so i could format my slave (Games, i dont play em anymore anyway lol) drive and have it set aside completely for Linux??
I was also thinking of changing ISP, I'm not sure if i want to tho lol, i have my router setup exactly as i want it, would it be possible to use the 205 with another ISP should i decide to switch, i was thinking of going with Telewest Broadband's 4MB Package dunno if you guyz can get that in scotland, should imagine so tho =D What i'm particularly liking is the NO usage Limit part lol :P
Thanx,
Bael
PS... those eagar to learn are nothin without those willing to teach =P
"When the student is ready, the teacher will appear"
all the best, dude!
;o)
ps.. seven months??? fuxake! you da man! no worries about missing "IT", it's a waste of time, I've seen the course materials! You're way past that!
pps.. dual boot, no problem! But for your serving needs, I definitely recommend spendin around £30-£50 to setup a permanent Linux rig. Before you know it you'll be running Azzy on it, ssh'n in and wowing yer m8s with yer VNC remote dekstop control! ...and then going "hey, this KDE desktop's pretty funky! and the text editors rock, too, and woah! Why can't I get a Windows news ticker as cool as this?", before you know it you'll be walking about in a penguin suit with Windows® XP no more than a distant memory
by the way, nice link! I'm fairly sure I can't get Telewest (Gawd knows how many times I've tried their postcode checker!) but I do know someone who's looking for a package exactly like this!
;o)
Hello - I have done a load of config to my router - (cool site btw) - but now all I get is the 5 lights on the router - unable to connect, reset, do anything! Spoken to BT - they say it is bust, any way to revive it?
Probably Dave, check up the comments (load this page with all comments and search for "digitaldazz"), and also the public archive (link above these comments) for detailed technical info.
Out of curiosity, what exactly did you do to it?
;o)
Bael - don't want to jinx things (touching wood as I type), but I have disabled UPnP, SSDP, ICF and ICS as per instructions, and my surfing is fine (if slightly slower?), and I haven't lost my eMule connection yet either. So thanks yet again for the hints and tips
As cor said "you da man!"
orlok
Hello
I just can't get TZO to work! ... I believe I've done everything right ... but summat must be wrong :-(
I'm connecting a SMC router to the Voyager ... the routers IP is 192.168.2.1
Please help ... this doing me head in
TIA ... Mick
The IP, the SMC router, none of this matters; the 205 will do the TZO stuff itself, right at the point a new PPP connexion is established (okay, just after that point), so...
exactly what command did you enter for TZO? (copy it here, remember to *** out the password!)
;o)
I used that drop down list thingio above mate ... I'm s**t scared of using that telnet incase I melt the Voyager :-)
if my TZO web addy is www.joebloggs.tzo.com and my UN is myname and the password is mypassword
what do I need to type in telnet to get TZP working?
Sorry for being daft but it's all new to me
TIA ... Mick
Cor think I'll keep my server on windows for now (well when i get round to installing plain old apache rather than easyPHP) but have Linux on my 2nd HDD so i can grow acustomed to it, before i go an setup a fully fledged rig :P and i've decided i am goin g to make the move to telewest, in august, as no 1 i get a payrise mid august and 2 i still have to finish my 3month contract thing with BT before cancelling their service =P
Orlok Glad i could help you out man
and after you've downloaded and installed firefox finetune its settings so it runs faster on your puter, donwload and install Fire Tune
Thanx,
Bael
PS... Cor remember when i first started coming here, and i said somethin bout modding xboxes?? well anyway lol...i finally finished my box, and now Im' jus showing pics to everyone, so go here and check it out :P
I had just about given up on my Voyager 205 as it had started cutting out and doing all sorts of stupid things. After resetting it to factory defaults and running through the initial setup steps on the site, it works like a charm. Thank you so much.
Warning: Firefox users, don't drag&drop text into your search bar, especially if you have a large unposted textarea! it will likely crash your browser!
/me regains composure..
where was I? Ahh right, ddns. Well mickfitz, it's all in the tricks page, except any extra features (wildcard, dynamic, etc) will be ignored by TZO. try this..That's it! DO read the tricks page section, it has some stuff you should know.
Hey! Nice mod Bael!, but badly let down by a really shite digi-cam!
Thanks DJ, that's the way it's done! rack 'em and stack 'em! NEXT!
l*rz..
;o)
yeah, i ant even got a digi-cam lol...need to get one :P those pics were taken using my webcam xD
and wtf is this turkey thing lmao
Thanx,
Bael
Oops! my bad!
Just testing the, erm, automatic, erm, link, eh, thing. *ahem*
It's the rack 'em and stack 'em Turkey song!
(it's possible to have unclosed links, and they kinda spill into the next post, and the next, and so on. I caught it! And dem turkeys are hard to catch you know!)
;o)
Hi,
I am having a mac ichat problem 'not responding' error message problem when contacting a certain computer using ichat video chat but not with others.
I am in Northern Ireland and I can contact My Dad who is also here and is using a Bt voyager 100 usb modem while I am using a BT yoyager 205 ADSL Router. I can also contact my brother in Canada who is using airport cable connection (built in ethernet). Both have emacs G41.25gHZ with tiger updated from panther.
I cannot however contact my inlaws who are in northern ireland and are using a new emac g4 1.4ghz with tiger preinstalled and a BT broadband connection the same as me using BT voyager 205 ADSL router. They can also chat to everyone except me.
I am using an imac G5 1.8GHZ with clean installed tiger and BT broadband. On both computers on which we are having the problem I have removed the firewalls. I have also set both routers up as DMZ virtuals which I am told removes any internal firewalls.
Can anyone please help as we bought the computers and signed up to BT broadband to use the ichat software and now that we have exhausted all of the recommended 'fixes' and am still getting the 'user' did not respond message I am at a loss.
Thanks,
Simon White
hmm, my after reading your post, my first instinct, (on pondering all that marvelous hardware you guys have and how I can't even afford to replace my dead G3!) was.. "phone me, I reckon I can fix this for you!" just kiddin
So, Simadoni, seems you have nothing to lose, seeing as how nothing, so far, has worked. This one is new to me, so I'll start with a simple hunch. (using my "Columbo" voice..) open a telnet session with the router and enter this command..try now.
;o)
ps.. you'll both need to do this, or else you try, and get the inlaws to connect to you, or perhaps visa-versa.. goan just try it!
Hi Cor,
I have a netgear dm602 router (modem?) and I'd like to use the Voyager 205 firmware on it. Everything is running well, except the WAN line is can't get connect, the ADSL light is off. I've run the diagnostic, but seas nothing.
Did You try it before?
Thanks :)
agentgates
Normally it's 205 users trying to get away from the BT firmware! I haven't tried this, no, and I haven't heard of anyone else trying it, either; you're on your own!
Okay, the WAN side, first, are you trying to connect to BT with this? Or perhaps the DM602 has some sort of ISP-lock, like a cell-phone, I really don't know, but it would be worth exporting the cfg file, I think, to see if its settings are compatible with whatever ISP you are using.
keep us posted of your pioneering activities!
;o)
I've solved the problem. Actually, I haven't DDNS feature with the Netgear's firmware, that was my main problem. That's because I wanted to change the firmware.
The solution: I've changed the device mode from "router mode" to "modem mode", and another router establishes the connection (which has DDNS support) across the DM602.
Thanks a lot :)
regards
agentgates
hello,
i am hoping you may be able to help me, and from reading your website i am very hopeful.
I have just recieved a BT voyager 205 from my isp and i need to configure it for use with a watchguard soho 6tc vpn firewall. For this device to work correctly and the vpn tunnels to function i need to ensure that the firewall can have a wan ip address.
I have set these up before but not with this router type.
I have static IP's but i am struggling to set the router to either act as a simple modem and pass all traffic straight through and act invisible, or alternatively be able to have a WAN IP address for both the external and internal faces of the router. This would then ensure that the firewall could also have a wan ip address, rather than a dhcp or internal address.
I hope that all makes sense.
any help or pointers would be most appreciated.
Regards
Will
Thanks a lot !
I rejigged my 205 and allowed 4 (consecutive) ports for BitTornado by following your instructions.
All lights are green !
BTW why doesn't my funky new prompt (GordBoy ) stick, even with a "commit" ?
Good Work
GordBoy
Bael - I am now browsing this excellent site wit a tuned Firefox browser. First impressions are v good. Only prob is my on-line banking site which uses ActiveX and MS Java, so Firefox doesn't work (have to set "view with IE" option, which is a pain
I did see the ActiveX Project people have a plug-in for v 1.0.3, so hopefully there will be a 1.0.4 version available soon. Not sure if that will fix it tho?
Thanx for the suggestion.
orlok
PS - as soon as I start eMule, Firefox can't find any sites, and stops working...*sigh*. Back to the drawing board :(
ahhh agentgates, I wasn't aware of the 602's ddns deficiency, that's definitely a good reason to want to switch! I don't understand at all what you've done, what function does the 602 now have?
will, first of all, load this page with all the comments and (type-to-find) search for "VPN", there's been some activity, but really, it's out of my ken. If you figure it out, or otherwise, let us know!
If all you need is to change the external IP to a static one, export your config file, edit the line that beginsadding in an extra parameter..using your actual IP, of course, and upload back to the router's "home" folder, replacing the existing one.
I dunno about the prompt thing gordboy, a bug maybe? Have you tried putting it in your exported config file and uploading again via ftp? It's not something that most folk consider, perhaps the engineers just forgot.
;o)
ps.. orlok, throttle your upload bandwidth to below 25kb/s TOTAL, and ensure you aren't maxing out your 512 IP sessions. one of those.
cor - eMule is set to a max of 16Kbps for uploads, so it shouldn't be that. Not sure how to tell if the 512 IP sessions are maxed out, tho I can't imagine they are with just eMule and 1 instance of the Firefox browser running?
orlok
well, orlok, with the right settings, eMule could use ten times that! In particular KAD will blitz your IP sessions limit almost instantly. Disable KAD, if you haven't already.
eMule's maximum connexions can be configured, unsurprisingly, it's in the "connection" preferences. check that out, and set it to maybe 300 or thereabouts.
;o)
cor - maybe one day I'll catch on to what all this stuff means... I've just followed your advice, and all is rosy in the garden again. Speedy surfing, no timeouts, and even eMule seems to be working better :)
Thanks for all your help.
orlok
Hi, I know absolutely nothing about the bt voyager 205 adsl router, apart from how to connect it up and enter username/password. It was working fine with BT but I changed to Bulldog and it now won't connect. I have changed my username and password. Any help would be much appreciated!
hello again,
would i be correct in thinking that if i change my 205 router from NAT to NO-NAT then the external wan IP address will appear as the IP address of the LAN side of the router?
If so then i think this is what i need to do so that the firewall can have an external wan IP address.
(please also see my previous question in the list above to fully understand what i am trying to do!)
Regards
Will
Hi, I know absolutely nothing about the bt voyager 205 adsl router, apart from how to connect it up and enter username/password. It was working fine with BT but I changed to Bulldog and it now won't connect. I have changed my username and password. Any help would be much appreciated!
I have aquired a voyager 205, configured it previously but changed the admin password, and now have forgotton it!! is there any easy way I can change it without losing my settings??
Still having problems using ichat between 2 205 routers using ichat.
So far this is what I have tried:
1. I tried the delete alg port portno 5060 command with no joy.
2. I have also removed the firewalls on both of the macs and created DMZ rules on the router which I believe opens the router fully for information.
3. I have even set up tcp and udp ports on the mac even though the firewall is disabled.
Ah, well. Just thought you would be interested to hear my ongoing saga. Hopefully it will be a problem that Apple can sort out from their end as I am stuck.
If you have any more ideas please let me know.
This 205 modem is driving me mad!
I wanted to connect it to my network so that only the PC(s) I wanted to connect to the internet could. I.e. turn off computers downstairs and run upstairs computers.
It refuses to do this even using all your tweaks etc.
I have eventually put a second lan card in a PC and then connected that to a router/ hub, but it means keeping this machine on all the time.
Any ideas so that I can connect with any of my machines at any time without having this PC running?
I thought I knew about networks but this has stumped me!
Hey Cor, Guess whos back lol. Azureus was working fantastic, then one day it wanted to update so i did, yet it wouldnt let me download the file for the update, the tracker kept timing out but after like 20minutes or so it would work and i would get a green light only to find that as soon as i got 2kbs downstream it would then drop to zero, then back and forth etc. Very irritating lol, any suggestions? Is there a beter program for downloading torrents that will be less hassel? Thx.
hi cor,
hi. i have a bt 205 router and i am having several problems with it. I have looked at the trouble shooting section but it didn't seem to help. firstly i can't access the web interface i was able to do so after applying your suggestions but then i rebooted my pc and then i could no longer access it. i can however still telnet to the router. secondly I can't seem to asign a static ip address i followed the instructions given and then my pc was unable to access the net and i had to use the internet health check to fix the problem. And thirdly i can't get bit torrent to connect to any servers it just sits there saying its connecting but the rates remain at 0. I applied port forwarding settings with the web interface when i could access it and it worked. however when i rebooted they stopped working and when i reapplied the rules thru telnet they didn't work i first tried to delete the rules i created on the web interface thru telnet and got told they didn't exist so then i put them in with telnet i have also tried to set up my own ftp server but nobody can connect from the outside even when i give them my current ip address and all the correct ports are forwded i can though upload and download from ftps. if anyone has ideas about some or all of these problems please either post a comment hear and or contact me. my address is alexwallis646@hotmail.com
well i know why absolutely none of the rules you put into telnet are working.....it's because you didn't set yourself a static IP address, it's pretty pointless the router allowing trafic on ports you specify if the address it's trying to allow the traffic to doesnt exist lol ;) did you notice that when you were enterint the rules into tlenet, some oft hem had IP addresses in them?? well they tell the router to direct traffic to that IP address, and you set you static IP to whatever you were putting in the telnet rules :) just out of curiousity, buit what IP address were you putting in the telnet rules if you KNEW that you didn't set a Static IP lmao, best advice i can give is:
Start again!?!?!
Hit the reset button on the back of your router, and starts again from the top of this page, and do each page in order, IE.
Main 205 page / Stealth / Static IP / Nat Recipes / if youre not sure whether your rules are working P2P port probe, and probe the ports you opened with telnet rules / then if it says its not working troubleshooting/ then when all is good and working, goto the tricks page ans see what nifty stuff is in there :) / an then come to "feedback" an tell us if your still having trouble, or if you got it sorted :)
Thanx,
bael
just to clarify:
MAKE SURE YOU READ EVERYTHING CAREFULLY
lol, It's pretty easy to make a mistake when your not really sure what you are doing lol, Cor does a good job of making this site n00b friendly lol, they just have to do a little bit of reading beforehand lol :P i should know i was a n00b before i came here lol xD
hi. ok i think i have asigned a static ip address 192.168.1.4 however i can't disable dhcp because i can't get in to the web interface. i have tried the trouble shooting section but keep getting page can't be found messages. could someone give me some ideas of how to resolve this or tell me how to disable it with telnet? also i have entered rules for bit torrent port forwarding using the above address but bit torrent still won't download or upload anything.
Dave, Check the Bulldog website fo their broadband connexion settings, likely you'll need to tweak the 205 to match them.
sue, nah! unless you remember your password, you'll need to reset the router, that's the point of security! Just poke something in that hole in the back. Then upload your backup config to the router. you kept a backup, yeah?
Mick, my update still hasn't "stuck". So long as you haven't changed any router settings, ti should still work as before, though. Have a look in Azyy's prefs and ensure te port settings, etc, haven't been altered.
Simadoni, I don't recommend DMZ's. I recommend you setup your boxes as per this page, and make specific rules for iChat. Check the public archive if you want a ready-made script you can use to short-cut most of the setup process.
frank, I don't understand what you're trying to do. But it sounds like you simply need to a) put everything on an ethernet switch, and b) enable the nifty access control features of the 205.
murix, CONGRATULATIONS!!!, you're saying it worked, right? w00h00! man! want a copy of that firmware! I haven't run Linux on the Sparc architecture!
alex wallis, first, have you considered Decaf? Man! I recommend you start with one of my "ready-made" scripts (link to public archives above these comments). That'll give you a working "base" setup. See how that goes.
did I miss some one?
;o)
ps.. Bael, that sig is wicked! totally took it to the next level! nize.
hi cor. ok thx for the suggestion i went in to the public archive section and had a look around at the section. but firstly i couldn't see anything called decaf, and i was a bit confused about what exactly i should be downloading.
alex, all i can think Cor meant by decaf is the coffee lol...even i dont know what he's talkin about there lol :P but what you should eb downloading is one of Cor's ready made router cfg files, Click here to view the readymade scripts, just downlaod the one that best fits your needs, i didn't actually configure my router this way :P i did mine the old school way lol :) but i think Cor will have provided details of how to upload etc with the cfg file :)
Good luck,
Bael
actually there are instuctions right below the list of cfg files :)
hi. ok this is really really weird i applied the php configuration file provided in the public archives to my router as suggested and bit torrent still doesn't work! also when i reboot my pc i can't always access the html interface of my bt 205. any ideas?
well i hope by php you mean cfg lol :P did you download the right ready-made script??? if you want bit torrent rules you want "commitedcfg_default+p2p.rar" (i'm guessing you added BT rules to this Cor lol) if that is the one you uploaded to the router, did you makesure you set yourself a static IP?? theres a link to the "static IP" page on the menu at the top of this page, i think Cor said he set all the rules in teh readymade scripts to 192.168.1.3 (not 100% sure tho lol, might wanna double check) so you want to set youre static IP to that. also just to clarify.....you are connected to your router via ethernet right?? if not chuck the USB cable and use ethernet...NOW lol =P
Bael
Cor, u seem to be the only person in this world at the moment who might be able to help me in my simple task! Everyone else seems to be keeping quiet if they know!
All's i am trying to do is to configure the modem so that it will allow a WAN IP to be assigned to the machine behind the modem. Hence both modem and first PC will have a WAN static IP, and be accessable from the web directly.
I am sure this isnt too hard to do, but i am screwing my brains to figure it out.
I have tried switching off NAT and DHCP (as not required) and then i end up not being able to connect, even when the Static IP has been assigned to the PC with the correct subnet. I am presuming that i have missed something out that is causing the problem, but am unsure to what it is.
Any ideas, or experience would be more than welcome.
regards
a muddled nooby who is well and truely stuck!
hi. that cfg file was the one i downloaded. i'm actually in a bit of a weird situation under the network connections option in the control panel the ip address i have entered is 192.168.4 because when i tried to use .3 i was told that had already been grabbed by something else. however when i type ipconfig in the command prompt my ip address comes up as 192.168.1.3. i am connected at the moment to my router with Usb i saw on some site that it said you actually had to have your router connected by USB cable to adjust settings. i have 2 pcs connected to my router if i swap the connections round from one pc to another will i need to reconfigure the router to reflect this? so if i have the pc that was connected by USB connected with the ethernet cable and the USB cable connected to the one that was connected with ethernet will i need to change settings either on the router or in windows?
Cor, u seem to be the only person in this world at the moment who might be able to help me in my simple task! Everyone else seems to be keeping quiet if they know!
All's i am trying to do is to configure the modem so that it will allow a WAN IP to be assigned to the machine behind the modem. Hence both modem and first PC will have a WAN static IP, and be accessable from the web directly.
I am sure this isnt too hard to do, but i am screwing my brains to figure it out.
I have tried switching off NAT and DHCP (as not required) and then i end up not being able to connect, even when the Static IP has been assigned to the PC with the correct subnet. I am presuming that i have missed something out that is causing the problem, but am unsure to what it is.
Any ideas, or experience would be more than welcome.
regards
a muddled nooby who is well and truely stuck!
well first off alex......
If you insist on using USB to connect to the router, expect to a) have lots of trouble with your internet connexion, b) be ignored here when you ask perfectly reasonable questions, and c) spend a lot of time at the troubleshooting page, on your own! Simon says, "Get a NIC!", or words to that effect, which is a "Network Interface Card" and will cost around three bucks in any currency. He really did say that! Check the comments!
Okay, NOW we can start..
you must use Ethernet...USB causes ALOT more problems than it's worth :P
as for already having a connection assigned 192.168.1.3 check in network connections and maybe take a screeny and show me what other connections you have in your "network connections" folder, and as for having to computers connected to the router....you need to drop USB completely and connect both of your puters to the router using a switch yes you probs will have to reconfigure both puters afetr you do this...but after you've done it...you'll wonder how you managed before you did it :P
Bael
hi. ok i found i had my old dial up connections still in net work connections. so i have deleted them but the pc still thinks 192.168.1.3 is still in use i now only have 2 connections both broad band to my pcs. as for reconfiguring my broad band if i switch over to ethernet i really really only want to do that as a last resort. this is because i am blind and so wile i find using about 99 percent of the pc fine there is about 1 percent that it is impossible for me to use with out either alot of help or time or both wasted. and first setting up my broad band was one of them the install process was completely unfriendly for a screen reading package something that interprets what is on the screen and outputs it as speech to read. this was mainly because of all the pictures and graphics as a result wear it probably took you what about half an hour to set your broad band up it took me about 3 or 4 hours once it was installed however i was fine because the actual inputting of details like user name password etc are easy it was just the driver install that took the time. if reconfiguration can be done just from the network connections or control panel i should be fine reconfiguring the connection to work completely with ethernet. sorry if i have gone on and on but i was trying to explain why i really don't want to reinstall broadband unless i really really have to.
alex if you make the switch to ethernet...you don't even need to have the driver installed.......a guide to configuring your computer to use ethernet:
1. Backup your router config file, inface you don't need to do this as you downloaded Cor's readymade script.
2. unplug and, throw away the USB cable/save usb cable incase you find another use for it(i chose the 2nd option, but i lost it anyway lol)
3.uninstall any and all BT software, throw away driver cd/use driver cd as a coaster/recycle driver cd (which ever takes your fancy lol)
4. connect router to peecee with CAT-5 cable
You're done!
now you need to make your static IP 192.168.1.3 oooorrr you can set your static IP to whatever you want we'll use 192.168.1.4 as an example.....then you need to edit the cfg file you downloaded so that all the IP addresses in it read "192.168.1.4" rather than "192.168.1.3" and then upload that to your router.
then run through Cor's troubleshooting page
Post back if you have any problems,
Bael
rememeber that after you have connected your router to your peecee via ethernet, your routers IP address will have changed from 192.168.1.2 to 192.168.1.1 you will now need to use 192.168.1.1 when trying to, access the html router page/telnet into your router/ftp your router.
Good luck,
Bael
will (I knew there was some one!) do you have a copy of the manuals? If not, grab all the PDFs from the public archive, and get reading! There's lots of possible suggestions, but it would definitely be quicker for you to run through them than me. "zipb mode" springs to mind, but I don't know if that's compatible with BT. Other things, too, but without a VPN link of my own to test, it's all hot air!
As to experience of VPN, mine is exactly zero. It's a corporate thing, isn't it? And I've never had any need to VPN to anywhere. I understand the principle, but that's about it. And there are so many different systems, too, exactly which brand of VPN are you trying to do?
I know that some folk have the 205 working successfully in their VPN setup, but no one's gotten back to say exactly how, and with so many different systems, that experience may be less useful than we'd first assume, anyway.
Give me (lots) more details, and I'll certainly look into it, but I still reckon you'd be quicker with an active VPN socket and a copy of the PDFs!
alex, get a switch! Then delete all the BT drivers, network settings, etc from the peecees. Then switch off all your computers and unplug them from the router. Then reset the router.
When you switch on the first pc, it will be assigned 192.168.1.3 automatically. After this you should find it won't complain about being assigned this address statically, by you. Upload my default+p2p config file to the router's home folder (the router is at 192.168.1.1) and allow it to reboot.
You should be good to go. NBow you can assign a static IP address to the other machine, say 192.168.1.4, and also remember to setup your BitTorrent client to use ports 49200 (azureus) or 49200 - 49209 (regular clients)
;o)
ps.. yeah, I meant coffee! it's just one of things you say to folk who are in a hurry, getting irritated, etc. Lack of paragraph spacing is a dead giveaway, but if you're blind, that also might be a factor!
hi. thx for the info i'm just slightly concerned by the fact that the ifconfig utility says my ip address is 192.168.1.3 and yet in the control panel it still shows the address i entered the 192.168.1.4 i'd like to just find out why that is before i start changing things. after all its a case of its working at the moment i'd like to keep it that way. i'm also concerned that i can't access the router web interface on every reboot to do uploading to the router.
Cor,
cheers for the reply, i may have confused everyone with the vpn side of things, just ignore that for now.
The easiest way to view this is that i want to connect the pc to the modem via ethernet and that machine (PC) requires a static wan ip address and is visible to the outside world.
Thats it.
If i cna do this then i am sorted.
I will start downloading the .pdf's but i was sort of trying to avoid using the telnet functions as i am a nooby to this and it looks more complicated than the GUI(obviously!) and i could see myself screwing up more.!
Anyway, if you wanted to test this senario then all's you need to do is establish a static wan ip address on a PC.
Cheers, a confused IT/systems builder/web designer/mechanical engineer and everything else i have to learn and do on a daily basis! (its ProEngineer today!)
Will
hi. just a correction to my last post. i don't want to confuse people so just writing to say that when i said ipfconfig i was meaning to say ipconfig.
Cor, sorry i didnt finish the last message.
The actual system that will be used after i have made the NO-NAT setup work when connected just to a PC is as follows.
We use Watchguard Firewalls, at home we have Soho 6tc boxes, and at the office a firebox 700, all with VPN enabled. For theses devices to work they need a static ip address and subnet from the web, hence the modem doesnt need NAT, these boxes also do DHCP, hence no DHCP.
Once you have the device connected up and can see the web you can start creating your tunnels, this is a little more complicated but not all that difficult. Most of the work is on the firebox 700, and once all this is done the you can use all the resources of the office lan or anyone elses home lan as if you are there. And all securely through a private tunnel.
I hope that helps, but to be honest as long as i can get the modem to pass a public static ip through to the firewall then i am sorted!
The modems we have for some of the other connections have all ports open, no-nat and no dhcp. so basically a dumb box!
regards,
will
right! i'm half tempted to chuck this router in the bin! after i think following advice correctly this bloody thing still isn't working! i've also been looking at some of the telnet rules and someone please tell me if i'm being very very stupid about this because i probably am. but the whole point of forwarding something is that you pass it on from one thing to another in this case a port from one address to another like a letter being passed on. so if my understanding is correct this is how it works your router displays an ip address to the world that isn't your pcs ip address. your router also has its own ip address that it uses. and finally there is an internal ip address that sends data between your router and pc. so following this train of thought your router should be forwarding ports from one to the other in this case my router uses 192.168.1.1 and my pc uses 192.168.1.3 so shouldn't there be some forwarding be going on between these addresses rather than the same ip 192.168.1.3 being used twice because if i have this right that would just create a loop doing nothing not even going to the outside world. i've probably got this all very very wrong so if that is the case please tell me so.
Hi guys.
Anyone help me? I just got a 205 on a 2mb line and alls fine except for gaming with unreal tournament and the likes. I have a problem when retrieving the master server lists. I get abot 5% of the listing and the router locks up for 3 minutes.
Ive looked at the running NAT translations when this happens and worked out its limited to 174 simultaneous translations so i have to wait for all the pinged server translations to time out.
Ive tried forwarding etc, but im a noob when it comes to routing. Anyway offer some advice?
Thanks in advance.
alex no that isn't so lol :P let go with your letter metaphor, les imagine your router as a giant post office lol...the rules Cor tells you put in your router (5 + 50000) block all incoming traffic and allow all outgoing traffic....this means, that you can send letters to anyone you want, the router lets you send them anywhere, the router gets them, sees that you have all outgoing traffic alowed and send the letter to where you want it to go...but at this point you have no custom rules for incoming ports, so no-one can send you a letter, except from on default ports, 80 etc.. so what you do is open up ports eg 6881 for bit torrent, and this tells the router that you want to recieve letters from bit torrent....so when you recieve a "letter" from bit torrent, the router sees that you want to recieve letters from bit torrent....but the router still has to know where to send the letter to after it has recieved it...that's why we give ourselves a static IP (an address) and tell the router to send the letter there, so thats the reason you tell the router to forward to your pc ;) hope you understand that lol =P
n2k how are you connected to the router?? USB or Ethernet?? also did you open the ports that UT uses?? theres a link at the top of the comments page to a site that tells you the ports what each game uses :)
Bael
hi. ok i think i followed your instructions correctly but bit torrent still doesn't work. i've been looking at that info for the config file that contains port forwarding rules for bit torrent. and i notice that it says you need to use custom ports i take it that means you have to have the custom ports open on your end to recieve the data. but my question is what happens if the tracker in question that is being connected to uses the standard 6881 6999 configuration and doesn't have the same port open as you? also i've been trying to use azeureus everyone says that is a really good client for bit torrent however when i try to run it i get a message saying Java Virtual Machine Launcher Could not find the main class. Program will exit. the program is a jar file and i just press enter on it to run it so any ideas? i have updated to the latest java runtime.
*aarrgghh*
It's always a struggle coming back from a crashed browser. At least it happens a lot less since I switched to Firefox; I remember it used to be a daily occurence. Anyways..
alex, the tracker uses completely different ports, you don't have to consider those. So long as the router port-forwarding rules, and your BitTorrent client's ports match, you are good to go.
You are free to use whatever ports you desire for BitTorrent (apart from connecting to a couple of messed-up illegal trackers), though if you've used my ready-made config, it would be wise to setup your BT client to use ports 49200 - 49209.
You can use any client at this stage, but once you have this working, I recommend you reinstall Azzy, and then you can click on "Azureus.exe", which will run just like a regular application, if you're JRE is up to date. (mine is Java2 v1.5.0, and works really well, transparently)
By the way, reading the NAT section (above) and the static IP page (link at the top) should help with your IP/NAT confusion.
n2k, use a ready-made script as your starting point. Then you'll have the IP max sessions tweak and slightly better TCP/UDP timeouts. These are the two things you need immediately. You'll probably want to tweak the time-outs further down, especially if you grab a lot of server lists.
Then apply port-forwarding rules for your game, and you should be AOK.
will, you definitely want to look into using zipb mode (from p29 SAR130 "extra" guide)..Like I say, I've not had any feedback on this (that I've seen), but that looks to be what you're after. I thought it might not work with BT being PPPoA, and zipb being a PPPoE thing, but apparently you still use PPPoA on the WAN side, and the IP passes right through.
If it works, PLEASE let me know!
for now..
;o)
Sorry about this !
I read right through your info (great job)but I am stuck at the telnet point, when I type in one of your recipes telnet responds with (invalid command).
I also tried entering commands on the router web page but no joy.
Hope you have time to help
Tony
tonylb are you sure you entered the rule exactly as it is on the page?? did you type it in or copy and paste it in?? and which rule is it :P
Bael
tonylb, are you sure it's a VOyager 205 (or similar Viking-Chipset based) router?
Not a Voyager 240, or something?
;o)
we must have both got in at the same time or summin!
;o)
Hi again
yes its a voyager 205, I checked the rule (stealth) after I typed it, I typed all the visable line on the page (is this correct)
by the way how do you cut and paste into the dos box
you should really do copy and paste...as then you know no mistakes will be made.....ctrl+v doesn't paste in telnet, but you can ctrl+c the rule and then "right-click/paste" in the telnet window, which rule exactly is it?? copy and paste it here :)
Bael
cor,
i will give it a go and let you know if it works. One thing though, i will change this using telnet, hence do i need to backup the router first incase it all goes tits up, or is it fine as the reset button will put it back to the original settings?
I am sure i will find out anyway, but just wondered!
Cheers for all your help and info.
Will
cor,
thanks for info from 6 May. Will try v1.6 download.
Strange problem today: my ADSL connection drops out every time after about 4 minutes.
I think the local exchange is the problem, but how can I check the router is not to blame?
well graham, you could always phone BT and ask them (I have a number that gets you straight to the tech dudes at any hour, so this isn't as strange as it sounds!) or perhaps open a telnet session and watch for interesting errors. The diagnostics page is handy, too.
If you haven't changed any settings, or made any major alterations to your usage pattern, it's unlikely to be at your end, not if it was working fine before.
will, yeah, just poke something sharp in that wee hole at the rear and your back to square one. in that case, step two is "upload my default config" (via FTP) and that's you straight to square wherever you were before you tried that dodgy manouevre! Back-up right now, then you have nothing to worry about.
tonylb, I'd put money on you mistyping the rules, it's just soooo easy to do! Even when they look 100%, they are not, always copy-paste. I sometimes use a text editor as a "middle-man".
Once you have a telnet session open, click in the icon in the top-left, pop-up the menu, and chose "Properties". As well as the font settings (lucida console bold 11 ;o), you can enable something called "QuickEdit Mode". Do that. From now on, you can paste simply by right-clicking anywhere in the telnet window. To copy from the telnet window, simply select some text and hit <enter>. Remember to save the properties for "All future windows with the same title".
Still no word on the Linux-on-Sparc gateway box
;o)
hi, my broadband was working just fine till a few days ago, but now it disconnects +- every 5mins then reconnects.
This is what shows in the telnet:
MAJOR ALARM : ATM Interface Down : Interface - atm-0
WARNING : PPP Interface Down : Interface - ppp-0
WARNING : ATM VC Down : Interface - aa15-0, PortId-7, Vpi=0, Vci=38
MAJOR ALARM : DSL Interface Down
Then wait 30sec and it all goes up again, and this continues 24/7 if the PC is on or not.
Any ideas?
Thanks
hi. ok i think i have fucked something really badly up excuse my language but i reset my router. and when i telneted in to it i got the following messages up. i don't understand them please help! help! Fri Jun 03 18:30:24 2005 : STATUS ALARM : DSL Interface Up
Fri Jun 03 18:30:24 2005 : STATUS ALARM : ATM Interface Up : Interface - atm-0
Fri Jun 03 18:30:24 2005 : STATUS ALARM : ATM VC Up : Interface - aal5-0, PortId
=7, Vpi=0, Vci=38
$
Fri Jun 03 18:30:30 2005 : STATUS ALARM: PPP Authorization Successful : Interfac
e - ppp-0
$
Fri Jun 03 18:30:30 2005 : STATUS ALARM : PPP Interface Up : Interface - ppp-0
Hey Logan, that's what just started happening to graham!
Sounds like you guys are connected to the same exchange. I recommend someone phones BT and ask them, really, it looks like troubles in their ATM, over-subscribed, no doubt.
They won't do anything about it if no one complains!
;o)
ps.. alex, those messages show a perfectly normal ppp connexion. you can breathe now!
normal? but first i have never sceen them and second what do they actually mean in english?
normal, in that they are the messages that are produced on each and every ppp connexion, but normally we aren't logged in to the router that early in its boot-up process.
In English they mean..
or something like that. don't let the "ALARM" fool you into thinking something alarming is happening. it isn't.
;o)
Im a bit of a noob, cos I just cant get my head round port forwarding!
I just bought 2mb Broadband with the Voyager 205 from BT and it works absoloutely fine, apart from when it comes to hosting online games.
One of my ps2 games, Medal of Honour : rising sun just WILL NOT let me host any games! Its says that i'm behind a firewall and wants me to forward port 28500 to my ps2 IP address, but I still get the same problem!!! Help! :)
wicked m8 eventually got the green light on bt thanks to you you are a star
DJ_Sam, try this. read the notes first.
;o)
thanks Cor BT seems 2 hav finally fixed it
Hi Cor,
Thanks for the config file!!! I have uploaded it and its all workin great. WinMX is blazin hot :) Couldn't have done it without you. You're a star!! Happy days!
ahhh.. I love it when plan comes together!
;o)
Hi cor great site wud be completly lost without it one quick question for u. I turn off my bt voyager router every nite as i'm unable to leave it on. This hasnt been a problem untill recently when my computer crashed badly a few times. Now whenever i turn it on the diag lights lights for a while b4 it starts to connect. Also sometimes it just freezes up, msn msgner signs out browser times out and emule drops to slow speeds then i have to turn of the router for a while b4 it will reconnect. Any ideas??
Cheers :)
Hey! Thanks to the information on this site, I've managed to set up ZIPB on the Voyager 205. I wanted to do this so I could use the port forwarding I'd set up on the router/switch I've plugged into it. (The reason I'm using such a device instead of a simple switch is that that's what I had to hand.) It seems to work well, and I can still connect to the ADSL router via telnet and the web configuration port.
Just thought you might want to hear about someone who'd used it successfully, as you'd suggested it might be of utility a few times, and as far as I could see, hadn't got a reply.
Before I'd set it up in this way, I'd been having a few issues (FTP attempts occasionally causing the router to hang, and such) but I don't know if they've been resolved as it's not been in this state for long.
I'm going to try some of the other stuff suggested here too. Thanks for a great, really useful site!
Rodders disconnect the USB cable from your computer and your router and use ethernet...to quote the site you couldn't live without....
Before we go any further..
If you insist on using USB to connect to the router, expect to a) have lots of trouble with your internet connexion, b) be ignored here when you ask perfectly reasonable questions, and c) spend a lot of time at the troubleshooting page, on your own! Simon says, "Get a NIC!", or words to that effect, which is a "Network Interface Card" and will cost around three bucks in any currency. He really did say that! Check the comments!
Okay, NOW we can start..
;) come back after you've switched lol, if your still having problems that is =P
Bael
also Rodders if you turn off the router everynight, when you turn it back on again, the default rules that your supposed to delete come back again autmatically, so download Cors automated rule deletion script from the public archive(link above comments) and run it everytime you switch the router on =D
Bael
cor
Still providing a great service
I check in every day apart from the
last week as had a motherboard failure!!
Set everything back up used the .bat file
to clear unwanted rules worked perfect.
Got a new rule in there never seen before
Rule 1 ppp-0 translates to my only port
I open for torrents what is it man!!
best
barney
HELP!!!!,
WHAT A SILLY FKR I AM!!
I TRIED TO FLASH ME BT 205 VOYAGER AND NOW I HAVE NO ADSL LIGHT AND CAN NOT ACCESS ROUTER!! (DOH).
ANY CHANCE OF ME GETTING IT GOING AGAIN!!? PLEASE.
MANY THANX
@SH
Yeah Bael, I suspected USB, too!
Cheers, Harlander, you're right, no one has come back and said it works! so thanks, much appreciated! I'd be thrilled if I could have a copy of your working zipb config file, too, I could even put something generic up for others looking for that.
Hey Barney! long time no hear! glad it's still working out. As to rule 1, sound like your XP has been doing some upnp business, you might want to disable those services!
@sh, load this page with all comments, you answer is here somewhere! (clue: yes, you can fix it!)
;o)
ps.. Rodders, there's no need to switch the router off at night! stop it!
i can get into modem after update
admin kai gyq3hd for passwords are wrong please help me!!!
Yep thats the deal
sorted!
best
barney
Yeah, Barney, it had UPnP written all over it! (btw, what happened with the old mobo? Fixable?)
nikos, what sort of udpate? (you might want to try admin/admin, though haven't a clue what you're talking about)
;o)
Na gone to the tip, replaced
with MSI neo very configurable
ready to upgrade to raid when
my hard discs eventually
collapse
best
barney
Hi guys,
Im not to literate on all this stuff to be fair, so please excuse if the answer to my question seems blatantly obvious.
I looked your site up to work out how I could get Win Mx and E-mule to work correctly as I could not get them to pick up the TCP/UDP ports they required.
Anyway I followed your instructions put all the safety measures in on Telnet then added lines for WinMX and E-mule, and voila, it all worked great..... but, (you new that was coming!)
Now when i turned the pc and router off and back on again in the morning the same problem occured again and it wouldnt recognise the ports, it was if it had failed to save the information i had put into it???
Is there anyway it will permanently store this information in memory? I have to do it through Telnet im afraid as i cannot access the web settings.
Please help me Im pulling my hair out here!
Hi ! I've read about CREATEFI utility and "Image Handling User
Manual" in this document: http://www.corz.org/public/docs/comms/router/BT.Voyager.205.ref.guide.pdf
Does anyone know where to get them ?
Tushi why can you not get to the web interface lol?? =S anyway to save the changes you make using telnet, just type in all your rules..again lol xD...and then type "commit" without the quotes =D
Sorry Mikle I tried xD i guess you could try mailing people that make firmware :(
Bael
ps... mikle dunno if this is what you need, but this is the only thing i could find called createfi, it's on that page somewhere :)
Bael
Hi thanks very much for the reply.
I can access the web page but wen i come to select the advanced options it does not bring up the new page just keeps flashing the status connection on right and doesnt bring up any settings / further screens. I dont kno whether my browser settings are causing this, I have tried fiddling about with it..?
I seems to be ok with my prior question now, but now the thing has started losing its connection periodically!? has this got anything to do with me swapping it from usb/ethernet do u think? or could it be any of the new settings/security i have entered from above.
it didnt seem to have this problem before?
Do you think i should reinstall all the router drivers again because i have swapped to ethernet? or should this be irrelevant?
Hi thanks very much for the reply.
I can access the web page but wen i come to select the advanced options it does not bring up the new page just keeps flashing the status connection on right and doesnt bring up any settings / further screens. I dont kno whether my browser settings are causing this, I have tried fiddling about with it..?
I seems to be ok with my prior question now, but now the thing has started losing its connection periodically!? has this got anything to do with me swapping it from usb/ethernet do u think? or could it be any of the new settings/security i have entered from above.
it didnt seem to have this problem before?
Do you think i should reinstall all the router drivers again because i have swapped to ethernet? or should this be irrelevant?
Hi all. Firstly, thanks for the great, very useful pages. They've helped me tremendously, and I ought to be set up now...but we're having a few teething problems. I've used Belkin's wireless modem for a good year now and have had no troubles (port forwaring etc..) but this box is trying to bully me around, and it ain't gonna happen! So here goes...
I've : No drivers installed
I'm : Running over ethernet
I've : Read all pages, troubleshooting etc
I've : Stealthed
I've : Deleted unessacary rules
I've : Made IP static
I've : Added rules for Azareus as suggested on 'recipe' pages (with correct IP)
I've : Added rules for eMule. (All operation lights are green on 'IP filter page)
Uptil now, surfing and dl/ing have been fine. But when I start up eMule, it connects, i can upload/dowload, but then my browser cuts out.
Same when I start up Azareus.
Azareus stops eMule from working too.
Could anybody give any advice on what I can do? It's obviously not my PC or firewall because I've been running the same PC on a Belkin wireless with absolutely no troubles.
Thanks in advance.
Hello Cor,
How's it going?
I posted here a few months back. I'm now on a dual boot XP/Mandriva and am trying to get Azureus working on Mandriva. It will download and upload for a few seconds and then stop even though I have a smiley green face. Also I can't browse the web once this has happened, have to close Azureus and restart Firefox. I've followed the NAT reciepe for Azureus givng it a custom port 49210 and have also tried port 6881, get the same result each time. Gone through this site doing what you say and double checked the trouble shooting section.
Here are some screen shots:
Azureus see the green man :)
Azureus port yes i change the port No.
Firewall on
Firewall off
One the firewall side of things I've tried it with adding the ports and turning the whole thing off, same results.
Please advise. I'll upload my config file if thats OK, just have to search around here for the upload thing
Cheers Cor
Go Scotland for the World Cup qualifiers
Tushi don't you dare re-insert that USB cable into your router lol!?!?!?! it's a good thing you switched, USB causes ALOT more problems xD so what exactly is happening with your connection?? there can be several causes for disconnection etc.. the main one is USB lol...a few others include, not maxxing out your IP sessions, enter this in a telnet session:
another could be that you are going over the maximum 512 connections, soo set all your p2ps to have a percentage of your 512 allowed connections, depending on how many p2ps you use, you can figure this out, but make sure you leave room for surfing etc.... another cause could going over your upload bandwidth, which is around 25kbps, so limit the amout of upload bandwidth all your p2ps can use, i have all mine set to a TOTAL of 20kbps and then i have room for surfing, another not as common cause is windows UPnP, you can disable UPnp with THIS app, if you've done all of the above, and you are still having trouble, try and give as many details as you can as to your problem :)
Levi i suggest you do the same as Tushi, max out your IP sessions, limit how many connections each p2p can use, and also set an upload limit
and Simon i don't know enough about linux (yet) to help you lol xD though i am also running a multiboot XP/vectorlinux SOHO, and my tinternet connexion is fine on both =S
Bael
Cool, thanks for the swift reply Bael, I've maxed the connections to 512, but how do I assign a certain number to each p2p/browsing?
Thanks,
Levi
well, Levi that depends on what p2p you're using =P i'm not completely sure myself lol, as i'm almost 100% torrenteer =P it's probably in teh settings of most, as long as you don't use multiple p2p appz at the same time, this shouldn't really be a major factor, unless you're using KAD on emule, if you are disable KAD, and you might also want to play around with the timeout settings, experiment with the following a little, till you find what works for you :)
modify nat global tcpidletimeout 3600
modify nat global tcpclosewait 45
modify nat global tcptimeout 30
these make old connections be dropped faster :) also be sure to limit the upload bandwidth each app can use :)
Bael
Okies, disabling KAD and entering the timeout settings enabled me to surf and p2p. But once Azareus is running, it hogs everything still! noooo...! Any suggestions? :)
just a thought, if your running a webserver on your machine, nat rules setup correctly etc, everyone else on the outside can access it, but if you try accessing it via the proper domain name or via global IP address, it doesnt forward you, only to 404 usally (given its trying to look for the page on the router,
just connecting via 127.0.0.1 is fine an all but it doesnt help if ya using something like an ipb board, im guessing there is no way to setup some kind of rule to fix this annoying querk ?
Phantom nope there is now way for you to connect to your own IP address lol =/ well there is one. use a proxy :) if you use firefox, download SwitchProxy, cinde i started my apache server, it's been an invaluable tool :) or if you goto the /serv/ directory of this site, cor has some cool address spoofing tutorials, so you can set an address for each of your virtual hosts to use when connecting on localhost :P
Levi i don't really know much about azzy, i tried it once but couldn't get used to it lol xD i use Bit Tornado xD i'll let cor handle this one, he uses azzy :)
Bael
@Bael
tyvm, for whatever reason using a proxy server had completly escaped me, just another reason why FireFox should be THE browser everyone uses :)
Thankies :)
Ok Bael.
Have you taken over from Cor?
I'm begining to think that BT is blocking certain ports their end. I should change ISP's when the 12months is up. What ISP do you guys use at corz central?
Yeah Simon, Bael (my highly capable online apprentice) hold's the fort while I'm out of town! Does a great job, too!
We are mostly BT/Yahoo users, by the way, that's how we all ended up with the 205. And BT aren't blocking any ports that I'm aware of, it's too much trouble for their complaints department.
At the end of the twelve months? Hmm, dunno. I haven't noticed my 30GB/mo limit yet, and the price isn't too bad, either. There's no doubt I'll have a wee shop around, it would certainly be good to have no limits whatsoever, and if I ever find a decent, affordable ADSL package with a half-decent upload speed, I'd switch right now!
Phantom, the proxy trick escapes almost everyone, just too simple, you see! The /serv/ tuts are a good read if you are tinkering with local web servers, though a tad mac-centric, for now. I intend to rewrite many of them, adding instructions for the other major platforms (*nix and windows) as the principles are fairly universal.
Levi, check Azzy's options, not only can you limit total outgoing bandwidth, but max total connexions, max connexions per torrent, you name it! Rake about!
Looking back on these comments (Simon, Tushi & Levi here, and all the others on the previous pages) I think I definitely need to get a wee FAQ page on the go, I've literally lost count of the number of Times Bael and I have diagnosed and advised on upload speed and max connexions issues! It's definitely the 205's Achilles' Heel, but with sensible settings a whole lot is possible, and neither have been an issue for me..
Currently my has network eMule running, Web server, FTPd, as well as my eternal BitTorrent queue and the usual array of chat clients, web browsers, mail clients, etc. no worries, ever. If I wanted to run WinMX, however, I'd have to kill eMule first.
Sometime in the next week I'll go through all one thousand three hundred and whatever comments and figure out which of the FAQ's haven't been adequetly covered, write something up, for our sake, not yours!
for now..
;o)
ps.. barney, RAID in the home is the future!
Thanks cor, although I never really hit above 20kps uploading, setting the limit to 15 anyway seems to have solved the torrenting/browsing problem. Although no connections are possible on eMule once Azareus is running still.
You guys should get commission from BT, I would have just bought a Belkin by now if it wasnt for you. :)
when testing my ports they are shown to be stealthed, how do I 'unstealth', I crave "success"
Yeah actually i think you should get some kind of salary from BT cor lol =P lol your doing the job that BTs *paid* customer support team don't know how to do lol xD
Levi i'd just try a few p2ps until you find a good config or your machine, an that your router can handle, i personally just use Bit tornado, and Limewire PRO, and they run fine together, i sometimes use ares too, but it's rare lol =P but i can run all 3 without affect to my browsing capability :)
bcmdom makesure the program that uses the port is running before you probe the port, eg if you have set bit torrent to use port 6881, adn you want to probe 6881, you MUST have bit torrent listening on the port before you probe 6881, otherwise you'lll get stealthed/connection refused :)
Bael
I have created a gap in the firewall for the ports I want, and when I test the ports with the program (emule) running, it tells me 'no route to host' (which would seem like the firewall to me?). On another note, (sorry to pester) but when I checked my IP filter config - custom I have many many rule ID's, how do I know which are useful and which aren't
bcmdom, "no route to host" is perfect stealth, which means, you either a) don't exist, or b) are using my "default+console" config file and haven't yet forwarded the correct port, or c) something else.
I definitely recommend you start by installing one of the default configs in the "ready-made" folder of the public archive (links above these comments) , at least then we know what we are dealing with. There's a selection now. If you do a lot of P2P, get the default_p2p config and upload it! All those extra rules you have are messing things up.
If you need something else, follow the recipes on the recipes page for anything unusual and you can't go wrong.
l*rz..
;o)
ps.. maybe free broadband for a year would be a nice gesture from BT, eh? (I know you BT guys visit the site, so come on dudes!)
^_^ while your after free stuff lol, i think you BT guyz should give all of us "no usage limits" lol, otherwise you may lose me to telewest =P
bcmdom teh refresh button is a killer xD got me a couple of times lol =P
Bael
I have installed the commitedcfg_default+p2p, and it did reset itself, however ther are still at least 30-40 rules still there, about half have an operation status red. Should I just get rid of them all and start over?
Hi guys thanks for all the help. i have entered the nbsize rules u suggested and it seems to stop cutting out.
However do i need to re-enter all these rules every time i restart computer/router or are they permanently saved in memory?
has anyone tried connecting one of these (voyager 205's) via ethernet to a linksys wrt54G (4 port wireless broadband router (no modem, just WAN in)).
I've tried once but must be a bit dense as I think they both got confused each with DHCP, and the linksys doesn't have PPPoA and will not allow you to enter a userid without a password (lik the BT connecion is)
Or have I just got it all wrong?
I didn't create a config file to set the Voyager up in ZIPB mode, instead using the CLI (and, in places, the GUI :p ). Of course, I'm having some troubles now that I think might be related to my changing settings and not commiting them (which would have been less of a problem if I'd written them down somewhere; oh well, live and learn), but the steps I took were pretty much as follows:
*disable DHCP server on the Voyager
*enable ZIPB mode ('modify zipb enable' is the command, if my memory serves me)
*disable NAT on the Voyager
I think that made everything work correctly. I'm having some trouble with getting Half-Life 2 servers to work at the moment, which seemed to develop spontaneously - I'd had them working with the ZIPB setup for a bit. I'll try and chase 'em down - they might be unrelated to the Voyager, I might have just munged my port forwarding settings.
Incidentally, old duffer, I get the sense that I've had a similar objective as you, though my router is wired rather than wireless.
Tushi glad to hear it's fixed :) if you enter "commit" in a telnet session, all the rules you enter will be saved, IE if you turn the router on+off but if you press the little circlre "reset" button on the back, they will be gone forever =O but i don't understand why you need to turn it off in the first place lol =S stop =P liek i said earlier tho, if you do turn the router on+off all the default rules are re-inserted into the router, so download cors "automated rule deletion" script from the public archive(link above these comments)
bcmdom i haven't actually looked at cor's default_cfgs yet, i configured mine the old school way lol =P but theres an easy way to find out if they are rules you shoudl delete, download the "automated rule deletion" script i just told tushi about, right in this very post =D
sorry old duffer i'll have to leave you to cor =P
Harlander the problem you are having with the HL2 servers maybe down to windows XP messing around with UPnP, i had loads of issues with DL spees, gettign into game servers etc when i had this service enabled, you can disable it with this let me know if that helps at all. :)
Bael
I have run the auto deletion (much to the annoyance of Norton Security!) and I have purged the superfluous rule ID's. However when I run a port test on both 4662 and 4672 I am still getting No route to host and connexion timed out (probably stealthed) repectively. I have ID 4662 and 4672 and 808 for putting gaps in the firewall and running eMule... what more can I do?
you have made NAT rules for the ports aswell right bcmdom?? IPF rules just won't do it xD and you did set yourself a static IP right?? making all these rules is pretty much pointless if you didn't set yourself a static IP ;)
Bael
Is it possible to switch the 205 into a 'bridge' mode such that it assigns the public IP Address to the computer which is connecting's ethernet card? I need this rather than the PC having a private IP.
If so.... how??
Thanks
Mmmm!!! is my 205 dead!!? ip found but no ports found by angry ip!!?
i tryed to flash 205 last week but it didnt finnish job, When i try to tftp says connection timed out!.
is their a way to reset it from the pins inside!!!?
help much appreciated.
done a lot of reading from here and grabbed a few things but i'm so thick i dont know where to go from here!! DOHH!!
my last attempt i got all solid lights!!?
many thanx
@sh
Widdog It seems like ZIPB mode could be what you're after. I've been fiddling about with it myself and it seems to do what you want.
bcmdom, did you FTP the file into the right folder? if it's done right, there should be no rules except those in the config, essentially uploading the file to the "home" folder will obliterate the previous config, which is what we want.
If you did this already, I recommend you now run (no, walk!) through the troubleshooter (on the troubleshooting page), paying particular attention to the part where it tells you to disable all firewalls!
Harlander, whenever you make a change that works, do commit in the telnet session. then immediately go to your router's "Backup/Restore config" page and EXPORT the configuration! Now you have a backup. This file is exactly the same as the ones available in the "ready-made" section of the archives, and that's what I'd LOVE to see!
Widdog, zipb indeed looks like what you need. Check out the PDF's and try it out! I'm gonna award a prize for the first person to get a working zipb config to me!
old duffer, zipb may be useful to you, too. You may also simply get off with plugging the 205 into the WAN-side of the Linksys and giving it an IP in the 192.168.1.something range.
@sh, did you check out the "emergency direct flash.zip"?
for now..
;o)
Pheww!!! ;o))
Works!!!hehee, managed to upload bt original bin with tftp rebooted and HEYpresto! back to original.
Now i will read slowly and concentrate on wot u guy's r saying.
COR:wicked site m8, bt engineers should b visiting this site to get knowledge on the products they givya. probly on twice as much £££s.
donation on its way me thinks!!!! ;o)
@sh
never used the usb port its still got the sticker on as cor says it shud be lol!
As for deleting the rules when i fire up i may do that but i didnt b4 and nvr had any problems.
I would luv so much to leave my router on but i get moaned at for leaving stuff on folks think its a fire hazard no matter how manytimes i tell them it isnt they wont belive me an im an electrician!
One new thing thats come up that might interest u guys im reciveing an error msg through my telnet just keeps coming up an it says:
Thu jun 09 19:06:55 2005 : WARNING : ATM VC Congested : Interface - aal5-0, port Id=7, Vpi=0, Vci=38
any ideas??? cos thats lost me!
Rodders
@sh, *phew*!
Rodders, that's "normal", in that we all get it, a lot, if you're getting close to the 2MB/s / 288Kb/s limits of your connexion. That's the beauty of contention ratios, I guess, BT getting get maximum bang for their (read: "our") bucks!
By the way, I leave everything on! The only time I power something down is if I need to move house! (or move something to another room, okay). Stuff lasts longer, less metal fatigue with all that expansion and contraction heating up and cooling down. Saves money. Fire is also more likely from failing parts (overload, burn-out, etc), ergo, leaving stuff on reduces the risk of fire! (okay, I'm stretching it, but still) Hey! I'm just giving you some ammunition!
l*rz...
;o)
Invaluable site - One question I haven’t seen the answer to though, is the 205 compatible with AOL? The last time I helped a mate setup on AOL he had my old Conexant CX82310 based router & it didn’t work out of the box, I seem to remember having to play around with values for MTU, MRU & MSS.
this damn router is drivin me nuts. :-)
i had it perfect yesterday, bittorrents downloading at over 300Kb/s and i changed one little thing an gone for ever. :-( (or at least till i managed to do it right again.
nice site guys. :)
I'm using ETHERNET (No USB) and have random disconnections. Any Ideas anyone?
I emailed BT Yahoo! Tech support and they sent me the standard "check the filters, check the connection, no extension leads stuff - they even said about Trojan Horse Dialers (don't know how they can terminate ethernet!!)" which I had already tried, and I don't really fancy a long conversation to be told to do it all again when the guys often don't listen (Sigh - remembering ISDN tech support - 1 hour phone call to be told it was a Windows issue they couldn't help me with!)
I also ran through your troubleshooting page, and the commands don't help either, neither does upgrading or downgrading the firmware (changed from 1.6 to 1.5 and back again to no avail)
tj_mgateuk, repeat after me..
7cfm, it should work, though yeah, you'll probably have to mess around with the setting a bit, liklely be these ones.. and the username/password, too, of course.
for now..
;o)
ps.. guys looking for bridging/zipb, etc, did you try the admin selector (above these comments) for this page?
I confess! I like Windows OK!!, you say you went through the troubleshooter, but I want to see proof!
Try disabling the windows UPnP services, and upload one of my default configs from the "ready-made" folder (archive links above comments). Reboot your peecee and try again.
;o)
u may have a point. committing after every one. I just been nosing at my IP Filter Config. Now ports 6881 etc have a green light, but angryip is showing them has closed. also stateful inspection is disable. should it be?
dude! it's a bit early in the year for consuming magic mushrooms!
;o)
Firstly guys thanks for the help previously given, I'm now a happy High ID user of our old friend the eMule. I have one question though, how normal is it to keep losing connection with servers every 2-15 mins?
Hi again
Thanks for the help last time worked a treat
I have another question which was is it possible to create a basic
peer 2 peer network with 2 computers to transfer file with the bt voyager 205 router using the rj-45 and the usb connection
Thanks in advance
Thank you very much, I was looking around for some 205 tips and came accross this! Im an experienced CCNA Qualified guy and followed all the steps and now my nets better than ever.
BTW: How can you connect a HUB to the 205? I got a Netgear one with 4 Ports and an Internet Port... Thanks
:)
Darkus, I generally recommend getting a switch, if possible, but any old hub should work fine, just plug it in! Probably the internet port would be your best bet, with a regular cat5 cable (not crossover) If the net port isn't happening, one of the regular ports surely will.
Redeye Jedi, good question! Theoretically I'd say it was possible, but really, I think the 205 has enough to handle with the internet traffic! Get a switch! They're like ten bucks! (still need to get a better switch link for the useful links, bloody peecee world!)
bcmdom, *phew* I was starting to worry about your setup! great news! until we get to the disconecting every 2-15 minutes, no, that's not normal. Exactly what type of servers are you refering to?
;o)
I get this weird thing happening now, where im currently downing something through BiT and its severly affecting the net.
It just grinds to a complete halt for around a minuite then starts up again and this happens at random intervals. MSN doesent get through just keeps disconnecting and messages dont get through either.
BiT is currently set at: 8kps x 2 max Upload and im on the 2mb package from BT
o yeah, and why did some of my d-loads that somehow manage to reach 100kbps, go back down suddenly to a friggin 10kbps. when 33% gets done of sin city, it suddenly goes down!!! to 0!! i even uploaded to 4 people at 25kbps!!! also, why does my connection keep droping. no extension, all perfect!!!! but still it keeps dropping out!! every 30mins
why do i only get 2 seeders when there are 245 seeding. all ports open!!! no firewall no nothin...
eMule just keeps loosing servers every 2-5 minutes (15 if I'm lucky) so messages such as lost connection to Donkey Server No2 for example are very common. I have a high ID (thanks to you kind folks), I have limited my uploads to 12kb/s, unlimited download, have released some of the more popular files I am sharing in n effort to increase the good old scoring method. I feel like I'm being a real good citizen but somehow getting the finger. Any thoughts?
Not only that but my browser seems to crawl like an asthmatic snail if not losing the server altogether sometimes.
how can i put an encryption on my modem?an elicit email was sent from my ip address and it was not me.BT think that some1 is remotely accessing my modem and have told me 2 put an encryption code on it.can any1 help me?
Darkus, assuming you've applied the max IP sessions tweak, limiting the connexions in Azzy to, say, 300-400 will give you plenty of headroom for other net activities. Also, tweak your UDP and TCP timeouts to be shorter. Play with that.
tomassen, if the port probe says success, you are good to go! the end. everything else is just "torrent life". Patience is often a virtue, particularly at the beginning of a new torrent. If you are uploading at 25kb/s, expect your connexion to crap-out pretty regularly, or else cap it to 20, or 15 as per our frequent advice. Also see above advice for Darkus.
bcmdom, ditto. The max connexions preferences are somewhere inside almsost all these p2p apps, certainly Azzy and eMule. I can guarantee that the 205 can happily have them all going at once, with the right settings. tweak, test, wait, tweak, and so it goes...
malcy, someone's playing a practical joke on you. Do you have proof that it came from your IP? Anyways, there is no encryption that you can "put on" the modem. By the looks of things, BT are in on the joke.
Read through the pages here, check the pop-up selectors, it's very easy to disable remote access (though yours probably already is; it's disabled by default) and even with no protection whatsoever, no one outside can use the voyager to send mail! (I wish!) You need a mail client (MTA, etc) for that, running on a computer.
Do you have other copmputers in your network? Did they send the mail?
Anyways, it all sounds too dodgy; forward me a copy of the mail, I could look into it.
for now..
;o)
Ez People, (i wish it were)
I have just downloaded your default config file, uploaded it and saved. i have my static ip set. So all should be good yes?.... well it is to a point, my problem is this.. my net works fine for a few minutes, then say i shut down firefox and then load it back up and try and view any site on the net, the loading bar freezes half way up and the page times out, no net. for some reason it will only let me access the net after trying a few more times or just waiting. my packets stay static both sent and recieved.
could this be an ethernet card problem? any help would be sooooooo welcome. ruleid 1 thanks a million
commit ;)
Well, Mr A .ngry, possible culprits include; Firewalls (including BIOS firewalls), UPnP services (you want to disable BOTH XP's UPnP services), incorrect network settings on your computer (run through the static IP page, and see if it matches what you have), and any number of other things.
Have you been through the troubleshooter? If not, tick everything on the list and see where you are.
There will be a fix, there always is.
;o)
ps.. by the way, which config did you use?
Cor,
Just to keep you updated with progress of IP pass through for the BT Voyager.
Well, it works, I just changed the ZIPB bit through telnet and that was it, set the firewall to the ip address and away it went (well, after a few reboots of the modem and firewall!).
Since then it has only thrown a wobbler once and lost the connection, but its seems ok.
Lets just see how long the modem lasts before it starts getting too hot and starts to disconnect.
Anyway, it may well be worth adding this to your website as i know there are a few others out there trying to do the same thing.
If you would like any more info give me an email.
regards
Will
PS cheers for all your help and your website.
Ok, It may be BT themselves with the line, I dont know. But could you tell me the commands for the tcp and udp timeouts (i cant seem to find them) many thanks for your help and site :)
i have powerbook g4 with mac osx and tiger 10.4 the new version. I have bt broadband 2mb with bt 205 voyager router attached to apple extreme basestation with apple extreme card in the powerbook to make it wirelless. it also backward compatible to both b and g.
i have the wireless internet setup along with usb for the windows laptop attached to the bt voyager.
i have had download upto about 196kbs but no i get upto about 13-20kbs. i have setup port in the system pref in the net sharing folder for port range bet 6880-6999.
IS THIS CORRECT also i dont know what ports are open in the bt voyager router how do figure out what are open. is there anyway to figure out how to disable the firewall on the bt voyager router.
any more info you require i can reply.
this is a very good site for knowledge.
good work.
Cor, You don't happen to work for BT Tech Support do you?
The PPP keepalive and nevertimeout commands don't work (as stated)
Disabling UPnP keeps it alive for about an hour instead of 10mins, any other ideas?
If it is of any help, here are my line stats:
Local Tx Power: 11.34 dB
Remote Tx Power: 14.39 dB
Local Line Atten.: 53.0 dB
Remote Line Atten.: 31.5 dB
Local SNR Margin: 5.5 dB
Remote SNR Margin: 19.0 dB
Thanks will! so few people do this! I've had a few positive reports of the zipb, though, but still no confs in my inbox! So it was one single command? cool!
Darkus, try this..which may be the defaults. you can enter them all on one line, too..which are my current settings.
I confess! I like Windows OK!!, I'll try not to take that as a personal slur! and dude! when I rebooted the other day ( after a daring uncloaked escapede on a spammer's MySQL server
;o)
oops d0lally, never noticed you there!
To check on what ports are and aren't open, try the pop-up selectors above these comments, you can check on the status of everything.
Using both USB and ethernet together can be problematic. For some unknown reason, the USB hogs resources, at the expense of the ethernet connexion, even. Doesn't the wireless extreme have an ethernet out port you can use?
Once you WAN-side hits the extreme base station, nothing's getting in, you'll need to enter its admin interface and open specific ports, and route them (forward) to a specific LAN IP address, probably in the 10.0.0.1 range (or something like that, it's been a while since I dropped into one of those things).
Work methodically through the connexion chain, WAN >> computer, opening ports, and forwarding to the correct IP as you go along. If you put only the base-station on the 205, you could even switch to zipb mode and let the base-station do the firewalling/forwarding, that's one less place to configure.
have fun!
;o)
Corz,
I've only just got my new bt broadband connection and Voyager 205. I hit your site today to try and see if there was any tweeks I could find for the router to make it more reliable and perform better.
Brilliant, I am dead impressed with the site/stuff here and your commitment to helping the community. Keep up the good work.
Cheers
Tornado.
Cor,
Can you give me any info on MRU/MTU settings for the Voyager 205 with a BT roadband service that might improve performance or better still are there any XP Home registry settings I should also be aware of that can improve performance etc.
Cheers
Tornado.
heh, cheers dude!
(btw, sorree about your comment's temporary disappearance!)
MTU/MRU settings is not something that comes up much since the move to broadband. Truth is, XP is pretty much good-to-go. Though there are a wealth of applications out there that promise to "tune" your broadband connexion, the defaults are actually pretty good, and you're unlikely to see much improvement by tweaking them. Similar story for the 205. Having said that, I don't have much experience with the "home" flavour of XP, so perhaps googling for such a tuning utility would be beneficial. If so, let us know!
I know that all the machines on my network can completely max out my 2MB/288kb link, no improvement required! Network bottlenecks we experience are unlikely to be at our end, unless we aren't obeying the golden max IP session (512, with tweak) and max upload (25kb/s tops) rules; a far more prominent cause of connexion difficulties.
I know BT are cramming those connexions into some of the busier exchanges, and I guess some of the trouble that brings folk here is beyond their immediate control. I'm fortunate to connect to a fairly quiet exchange, with great, long connexions, but I know that this isn't so for everyone.
Bottom line is, BT should have switched to ethernet years ago, ATM is nice, but it's starting to show its limitations.
;o)
rofl cor, I don't suppose you could wish that on anybody!
I won't ask what you did to that spammers server - I might read about it in the papers
I guess it must be a line fault then, my DSL link has been up for 2-3 weeks in the past, so I figure I'll have to phone tech support and see what they can do (could be part of their "Upgrades" to the network, or just because I live in a village with a pretty full exchange nearby).
Thanks for your help in trying to get me going, BT ought to hire you as a consultant - I think you know more about their products than they do!
Put it this way, I didn't do what I should have done! So you probably won't read about it, just some inconvenience in line with his time-eating crimes. guilty spammers rarely run to the law!
I..
oh man! if I even had a buck for every time someone's said that same thing here, I'd be doing all right!
;o)
ps.. if you want a BT broadband technical number you can call and get real humans who actually know some stuff, even at 4am! mail me!
hi, i'd just like to know why on earth does my conecction keep dropping out every 30 mins or so. i have ethenert, and no extension. everything fine, all of a sudden this stared happening. i done evrythin here asked and advised. but STILL no luck!!!!!!! i download 4.5 GB in 5 days because of this. that sucks. any ideas?? THKS GUYZ
look, i reckon u check the internet settings. does it say disconnect if idle in the options. check in 'display hardware' and check your properties for the router. check if your line is all corrext, even try new filters or new sockets etc. if still all is hopeless; fone the GOD-DAMN company and wait for hours................ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
thanks. if no-one got any advise,,, i'm off to ask those BT @ssholes for any g0d damn help. man do i need it. EUROPEAN ASSAULT, SIN CITY, STAR WARS, AND NOW SAN ANDREAS....... AND OH YEAH.... chaos theory.................... ALL ON MY F**KIN WAITING LIST. man i'm gettin tired of this sh1t. LOOKING FORWARD TO ANY POSTS HELPIN ME.. thanks again everyone. BE SOON..........
U do like swearing dont u tomassen!!! anyway. i got a way out for u dude....... just reformat your drive, or reinstll any stuff and check all their settings. ALSO HAVE U TRIED THE "modify global pppsesstimer thing......... IT'S ON THE TROUBLESHOOTING PAGE. ENTER THE TWO RULES WHATEVER THEY ARE USING TELNET AND THEN HOPEFULLY the connections dropouts should be "nevertimeout".
i wouldn't go to bt. they somehow or another seem to con u by saying this or that is wrong "and the usual, NOT OUR RESPONSIBILTY". those peopel on the lines get paid for de;laying customers and giving them shit when help is needed!!!
fingers crossed dude. BYE.....................
u're right 'bout the BT people on the line "50 CENT". they dont help at al. no help for tomassen unfortun.. but my mate was on bt. got treated like a dog by those BT poeple on the lines. had to switch to NTL and had to pay full 12 months contract bill, even though he'd been using for just 4 months. THEY GET PAID TO CONFUSE AND BAFFLE, NOT HELP AND ADVISE. and anyway, BT IS SHIT. STILL USING USB. ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i'm on blueyonder. never had a problem. cause its a proper company with proper people.
AS FOR POOR OLD TOMASSEN, I ADVISE U LISTEN TO THE THREADS GIVEN TO U BY OTHRTS LIKE 50 CENT AND DARKUS AND KY JELLY..... oh sorry, KY 456. (ha ha) SEE YA BLOOD
like the KY JELLY joke!!! "anti-bush". sorry tomassen, got no help for ya!!
THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i think i might just move to god-damn NTL, or telewest. this is getting confusin. 500 - 525 MB in the last 12 hours of downlaod of OFFIE 2003. Tht is f*ck*ng SHI*!!!!!!! i'm gonna die.. YES DIE OF friggin DEPRESSION OF THIS THING. I'M MOVING TO NTL, or telewest... or even blueyonder.. get away from HELL!!!
ALRIGHT FOR U PEOPEL WHO 'S THIS CRAP WORKS NICE AND U GET NICE JUICY SPEEDS AND PERMANTN NON-CUTTIN CONNECTIONS. BUT UNFORTUN........ i'm not one of u poeple, with good fate and luck!!!!!
why, get depressed. it's only internet. jus try once and get help from BT. THEY ARE TWATS AND GET ON YOUR NERVES, BUT U NEED THEIR HELP, USE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (like my new name???)ha ha ha!!!
u're problem is to do withe the actual setup of the wires etc... not the ports opening, fireall disbaling... BELIEVE ME ON THAT!!
what the hells KY JELLY.... U THINK IS FUNNY!!!! ohhhh its that jelly that one ................
rubs on and puts on before somethng very special in certain parts of the body... yes
shut up KY. if u dont have anything to do AND SAY ABOUT AND with BT crap on this site, dont write. this is not a porn site.... i am serious...
I still need help... or else u know i will..... MOVE!!!!!!!!!!! (to NTL i've decided)
BYE THE WAY I'D LIKE TO COMMENT I LOVE THIS SITE AND WAY IT'S CONCTRUCTED. SO EASY FOR NOOBS TO USE AND WORK FROM. I COMPLIMENT EVERYONE INVOLVED WITH THIS SITE. congratulations and thnk u, cause i recently got a 205 bt router.
and with this BRILLIANT site's help, i get regular 130+ speeds!!!!!
THANKS....... EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i agree with 8889888......
good site, good info and advise...
and even better post and thread setup here... i love it here....
i like the way RESPOND TO OTHER'S PROBLEMS...
(keep it up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
sorry, i missed out the ...PEOPLE,,, respond to .........
woah! looks like I wasn't the only one drunk as a skunk last night!
;o)
damn right about that. i was one of them!!!!
Cor,
Just to answer, yup, just one single command to get it to change over. Job done.
Only thing i havent done is configure the firewall in the modem, didnt think there was a lot of point as of the industrial firewall behind it! Whats your thoughts on this, do you think i should bother? Are there any major gains from changing the settings more? or should i just leave it as its just acting as a passthough modem!
regards
Will
will, neat! you gotta drop that config in my inbox man!
As for firewalls, I generally recommend "one good firewall". If it's solid, one is usually enough. I don't know what yours is, but if it really is "industrial strength", I say let it do its job, and the 205 can be just a modem.
Tell me, does the zipb mode bypass the 512 max IP sessions limit? It would seem likely, as you aren't using the NAT on the unit.
;o)
Thanks cor for all the help. Fantastic :) I'd like to say that the BT client I was using (BitTornado 3.7.0 was buggy) so thats what was causing the damn problems!
Everything else works like a dream now
just wanted to let u know that the link to the castlenet Ar502 is broken, i shall try following the other stuff and see if i can figure out my problem
Hi, I wonder if you could help me with this. I am using eMule with voyager 205 but there seems to be no way for me to use the Kademilia network. I have been told (see
http://forum.emule-project.net/index.php?showtopic=77830&hl=voyager )
that voyager 205 cannot handle it. Do you know why this happens, and how it might be possible to fix this problem?
Thank you very much.
Marco
Aye Marco, it was here we discovered the KAD problem. It's not that you can't use it, it's that you can't use it if you want to use anything else. See the recipes page.
It's all to do with maximum IP sessions. By default you have 192. You can tweak that to 512 (see above) which is more than double, but still not enough to easily run the likes of KAD, which expects to open around five zillion connexions just so I can locate a copy of Nana Mouskouri's gretaest hits.
So yes, you can use KAD, OR you can use the internet, but not both. Truth is, I've not noticed any difference without it these last few months; I still locate and download everything I search for.
Think about it. Is there such a thing as a popular KAD client for windows? No. Or ANY platform? No. It's all eMule users (with their ALPHA version KAD appendage), which means you can get those very same files from those very same people via the eD2K network, as ever.
If you want more info, load this page with all comments!
for now..
;o)
ps.. if you are determined to include KAD in your online life, you might also want to tweak your TCP/UDP time-outs right down, to say, 10 seconds, or even less.
pps. thanks blaahblaaaaaaaaah, what can I say, HTML created quickly, the link was there, but the links attriburtes were back to front, you could have got the URL from the source, but then, who would go to such trouble? fixed now!
heh first time i've posted here needing help in a while lol :P
though it isn't really voayger related more .bat script xD my switch just came in the mail ^_^ w00t lol along with a 1gb RAM upgrade =D and everything is all good, but for the first time in ages, i've switched my router off to connect them lol....and now for some strange reason...i can't run the automatic deletions script =S i've re-downloaded, cus i remember opening it in wordpad to checkout what was going on inside there, i know i didn't change anything lol, but just incase...and it still doesn't work lol, i have no anti-virus things trying to stop it, eg norton auto protect (script blocking)
any ideas what it could be man??
i'm just going to do it the tedious way for now, though the web interface xD
Thanx,
Bael
strange. what sort of error are you getting?
don't forget, you could always use the linux version!
;o)
i don't even get an error lol...it just stops...the cmd window opens..an then just closes 5 seconds later lol, without even opening telnet =S
now why didn't i think of using the Linux one lol =P
it's all good now lol, i probably won't even swith the router off again fow a few monthes lol =P
but i'll get teh linux for, just incase =P
Bael
Bael
has your password reset on the router
is it the same as in the rad script?
best
barney
Great site, I've been having problems with my connection since it's installation in May. BT aren't proving to be very good so your site is just the job. I'll work through your advice and hopefully be able to tell BT what the problem is !
Barney if it was that...the script would still be able to start telnet, and i'd get a login error in telnet ;) but when running the .bat script nothing happens lol, it doesn't even open telnet =P so that's not it :) anymore takers =D nah not to worry :P i'll just do it in linux if i ever need to do it again =P
btw Cor, i'm having issues networking my xbox with my PC, now this isn't like all those guys that wanted to do this for live lol :P my box is modded....and i wanna do this so i can ftp, cop..i mean backup games, share all the video files an music files with my xbos so i can watch them on a TV screen in Bed without wasting DVD-Rs lol =P etc..... but to e able to network my xbox with my PC i need my static IP set to: 192.168.0.2 and subnet mask to 255.255.255.0, now this i can get round with the IPF rules etc right?? as there pretty much the same....now here's the tricky part lol =P to be able to conenct with the xbox my TCP/IP properties have to have preffered and secondary DNS empty =S which means i cant tell it to use the routers IP address...any thoughts lol =P
Bael
ok i just read through my own post....and it didnt even make sence to me, and i knwo what i'm trying to say lol xD
so simpler format:
Static IP Setup for Internet:
Static IP Setup for Xbox:
Bael
Hi cor guess whos back lol. I keep having trouble, azureus is totaly messed up and wont work at all, im using old shadow net experimental at the mintue, and when i reach a decent speed it drops to 0 steadily and i cant even load webpages arrrrgggh. Any suggestions please? All hell is much apreciated. Thanks!
Bael, why not alter the IP of the xbox? 192.168.1.100 should work great (with evox). I don't understand why the DNS server entries have to be blank to FTP to the xbox, either. FTP is about as basic as it gets, if the xbox has an IP (and a working TCP/IP stack) that should be enough (so long as FTP is enabled in evox). The trick for xbox FTP is usually to set the DNS entry in the xbox to the IP of your peecee, ie. 192.168.1.3
Mick, it just sounds like either a) upload limit exceeded (say 25kb/s absolute maximum) or b) max IP session limit reached (check that tweak is still applied). Tha last time I tried to update Azzy, it failed, and I keep getting that "new version is available" dialog, but it just won't stick!
;o)
ps.. or better still, Phil, fix it yourself!
Okie, so im either goin over my 25kb upload (that part i understand lol and doubt :P) or max IP session limit reached which i dont understand so much sry :S lol can u kinda dumb it down for a noobie and can u sugest something i can do, thanks allot very much apreciated
Mick, check here.
;o)
heh well i was a little tarded when orderin my switch lol, i forgot i would need an extra ethernet cable lol xD so i'm one short of linking everything together, so i'll play soem more when i get the other cable lol xD
Bael
Cor, sry for being a real pain in the ass but i aint got a clue in the slightest as to wat that stuff is lol or which outa that page i shud put in. Normaly i aint afraid to dive in and break my pc but i got this 1 like 2 days ago and i dont wana blow it up l0l. I dont got a clue wat ppp is or wat ip sessions are :S. Should i jus do all thats on that section u sent me or a certain 1? Again very sorry.
Ohhh hmm 1 of the things says something about time outs after 30mins inactivity, i dont know about inactivity but yea lol it times out ruffly after 30mins. Also cor can u suggest a good program for downloading torrents with apart from azurues please? Thx again and sorry lol.
it's cool. no apologies required. probably the best thing to do is go into the public archive and download the most appropriate "ready-made" script (see "Useful links" above these comments). All the tweaks have already been applied and it will serve as a great base for your own tweaking. Read the notes under the downloads for how to use.
Make a backup of your current configuration first, of course (you can use the admin pop-up selectors above these comments to get to the backup page in the web interface).
I haven't played with any other BT clients for a long time, so I can't really recommend. What's up with Azzy? Last time I checked it was heads and shoulders above anything else, even if the update process is a bit sticky, nothing comes close.
;o)
ps.. Bael, one day, whilst rummaging through your huge pile of spare CAT-5 cables, you will look back on this moment, and laugh!
Having sucessfully configured the eMule and also discovered torrent, I have installed Bitcomet, a controversial choice (according to some). Anyway what I wanted to ask, and I know I'm going to get shouted at..
YES! IT'S THE USB!!!
;o)ps.. didn't want to disappoint!
unable to acess advanced menus can get to advanced will show me asdl ip addresing but when i click them it keeps chowing me the connection screen, what i am trying to resole is when i run emule i have green connect light s and the probe says sucess but my emule program keeps droping its connection and reconnecting can anyone help
Thanks Cor, azzy just wont work for me, when im updating it i cant connect to any one yet im green and torrents take about 20 minutes to get like 10kbs and when they do its drops straight to 0 and stays there. Its same problem with my internet full stop only when im downloading torrents i cant look at webpages and the speed jus randomly drops to 0 and stays put for a while. I dont know enought about routers r ports to fix it and itw doin my head in lol.
oh and cor, outa the page u sent me -
essential tweaks..
replace a timeserver entry..
modify sntp cfg disable
delete sntp servaddr dname Time.apple.com
create sntp servaddr dname ntp0.strath.ac.uk
modify sntp cfg enable
get sntp stats
time to live..
modify ip cfg ttl 64
enable ppp keepalive..
modify ppp global keepalive enable
ppp sessions time-out after thirty minutes inactivity. let's change that..
modify ppp global pppsesstimer nevertimeout
maximum number of IP sessions the modem can manipulate simultaneously..
default is 192, max is 512.
modify nbsize maxipsess 512
What part of that should i do, i think 1 of them is right because it mentions internet timing out which i think is the problem :'(
please i need help i got emule and when i conect to the server it always seys low id! i found that i need to put 2 doors on my router tcp one and udp!can someone tell me how to put them to work??please if somebody now how please send me an email thanks
Hi Cor,
I have a BT Voyager with a corrupted firmware. I'd like to upload a new firmware by directly. I've downloaded the "loadfi.rar" and documentation for building a parallel cable for it. I have built the "6-pin" cable, but it isn't working, it shows no cable is connected. The contacts are perfect at each wire, but when I'm trying to pull it off or moving the plug on the pins, loadfi shows the attributes of the integrated Atmel for a very short time then it's going away. So, loadfi seas I'm having an AT45DB161B chip on the board. I've checked out the documentation again, then I found out this comment for AT45DB161* chips
"3---NOT connected to AT45DB161* (But connected to 4th-pin of LPT with invariable 3.3v voltage)".
So, I'm not sure about that what it means. Do I have to connect a 3.3 volts power supply to it? I was looking around by google and I cannot found any description for this "parallel-solution" uploading. Did you try to upload a firmware by this way?
Thanks for your answer. ;)
regards
Antal
Simon I know how, read the site.......
Cor I'm having more probs with my connection, and i have no clue what's up lol, it just started going crazy out of the blue xD this morning before i left for work, i started some downloads in BT and Limewire, and i left myself logged on xfire, when i came home, all the downloads had finished in both BT and limewire, but i was logged out of xfire, i then reconnected, and everything was fine for 10minutes, until i got disconnected from the internet for all of 2 seconds, which in turn led me to log out of xfire, and lose my conenction on the game i was playing, and this has been happening for the past 3 hours now =/ i've ran every spyware/AV app i have (which is lots) and all say i have no virus' or spyware, i have restarted router, restarted comp, checked to makesure the default rules aren't there, checked to makesure all my rules are there, ran a TCP connection tool, to see which of my processes are actually using the net, and there are no unusual ones there... xD
What could this be lol?? atm i'm just blaming it on teh British Telecom lol
Bael
found something else out, i tried to "repair the connection" between my comp and the router, and i get the error, "Windows could not repair this connection, because the following action could not be completed: Clearing the DNS cache", now i dunno if this has anything to do with it, or if thats just because im now connected to the router via a switch.
this is doin my head in lol, i cant stay on anything for longer than 10mintues xD
Bael
can i use my 205 voyager with virgin net? i want to use the bt router instead of the speedtouch as i can't use this for my xbox live?
I'm a dumbass when it comes to this stuff,can someone help me sort it out please?
Thanks
well i have no idea what it is, i've determined that it's either hardware related, or BT related lol, i've installed windows again on another partition, and get the same problem, and i also get it on Linux to =S i also thought it maybe the switch, so i disconnected that, and just linked the router direct to the peecee, and still get the problem, is it possible it could be weather related lol xD cus it's pissing down wi rain, and thundering/lightening here xD
Bael
ok, some more info for you(soz for the spam lol), i've found out that i can do some stuff forever while i'm not doing other stuff, eg i can surf the internet w/o getting disconencted aslongas i'm not doing anything else at all, eg xfire, downlaoding, playign games.....it's exactly like bieng on USB or having my upload bandwidth saturated...the only thing is...im not conencted by USB, niether am i uplaoding xD
hope this enough for you to help m efigure out what's up, i'm lost as to what to do xD
Thanx,
Bael
k, well for the 1st time ever i phoned BT support lol xD the woman didn't know what she was talking about though lol xD, although ithink it is weather related, or something to do with My exchange maybe, cause she said there have been alot of complaints from my area, w/o me even mentioning the weather to her....."it will be fixed as soon as possible" xD lol i guess i'ma kinda relieved that it's nothing i did :P
Bael
feck! I'm gonna have to stop killing my browser with open tabs, I keep forgetting that there's work in some of those tabs! *grr*
well Bael (fuxake dude check the sig page!!!) once your 100% working, any changes can't be you, it must be BT. I never question my setup, I always assume it's BT first when something goes wrong, and so far it always has been (okay, twice) By the way, in networking, a switch will mostly help connexion issues, rather than cause them.
hal, yeah, you should be able to use the router with Virgin.
antal, I've never tried it, but if you check through the comments you'll find others have (load page with all comments and search that), and successfully, too, so it must be doable!
Mick, download one of the ready-made scripts, then you have a working place to start. (by the way that page I sent you to, is THIS page, above these comments, a good read)
for now..
;o)
yeah....Twas BT lol.....it's fixed now.....if it wasnt fixed i was gunna go apesh!t at shirley lol (i remembered her name, so i could shout at her incase it wasnt fixed lol)
i check it, i check it before i check anything else lol :P i've read your last post lol :P but everytime i start typing a post i go OTT and can't stop typing lol :P i'll go reply now :) after a short bathroom break =P you probably didnt need to knwo that...but it will explain some of the time difference between my post in here, and my post in there lol =D
Bael
Cor, sry im just impatient i read thru the site and found commands to stop it disconnecting but u also say get an ethernet switch which uve told me before but.. Will those command work with USB connection until i get ethernet? Also another Problem is when installing the software with this router i pick pc + consol for my xbox. It says connect ethernet to xbox and USB for pc, will this matter? Also if i plug the ethernet cable from the switch when i get it into the card where ud usualy connect a 56k connection up (on the back of pc) will it work? If not i have a LAN card will it work? And lastly will i need to reinstall the software for the router if i change from ethernet to usb? TYVM u da man + hope this works.
Mick, all the commands will enter just fine with USB, but whether they work or not is another story, most folk agree that very little works properly when you connect the 205 by USB.
When you get a switch, you will FIRST REMOVE ALL TRACES OF BT SOFTWARE FROM YOUR PEECEE. that is important, which is why I shouted it. Uninstall every last (s)crap. And then do the static IP instructions (from the static IP page). Everything plugs into the switch, via CAT-5 connexions, you'll need a LAN card (NIC) in your peecee. Any 56k modem connexions have nothing to do with all this, and will still work as before.
and NO ONE has read my entire site! not even me!
Bael, r8!
I understand the 45 minute thing now, too!
Remember, your number one assumption should always be.. "It'S BT'S FAULT!"
;o)
Great great reading, i have gone through it all :P picked out the best bits and now have 24 pages of stuff to do when i get home :P,
I was gonna try and avoid all the port stuff and just use a standard modem (ive got a speedtouch usb and neven had problems) but my 205 looks promising again after u explained all that in lamens terms.
I will go through all that step by step and hopefully be able to get my torrents and counter strike source working ok, i do have a slight question, when u say about max upload speed affecting download speed, does that mean i will never get the true potential outa my 2mb line using a bittorrent client? for example if i cap my upload to 25kbps, will i not get my download potential of 200+ kbps?
Cheers for all the help
Vinny
Hi Cor.
Well I'm back after frying my 205 with the v1.6 upgrade.
No idea what went wrong: it just hung.
It's possible that it's because I was going through a hub, not direct connect, or it might even be an ntp request. I just don't know.
Anyway, finally got from BT that you only need to upgrade firmware from the original v1.1 if you are using VOIP, as in their Comminicator product. So now I'm leaving well alone.
And one for Logan and all the other non-experts out there (like me).
The sequence of messages (regularly every 5 mins or so):
MAJOR ALARM : DSL Interface Down
MAJOR ALARM : ATM Interface Down
WARNING : PPP Interface Down
WARNING : ATM VC Down
Usually means BT are working on your line or at the exchange. Get through to their fault reporting and make sure they check both.
If you're at the end of a long and iffy wire out in the sticks, this is favourite. If it starts around 0800, takes a break for lunch, then goes on till 1800, then that's the clincher!
If you are working from home on a VPN connection, this 5 minute cycle give you just enough time to reestablish the connection again before it drops you out. Oh joy! (You may have guessed that my exchange is playing up today.)
Great page - thank you for all your hard work putting what you have found up on the web.
Quick note for anyone with the router trying to use the AT&T Network Client for VPN access to work.... it doesn't appear to support IPSec very well, so its best to change it to using SSL (assuming your work allows this).
Select the menu, then "Show login properties" (or Alt-L with the Dialer software selected)
Under the "Network Services" section, click the "Configure..." button
click next to get the next page, at the bottom select "Managed VPN - SSL DualAccess".
Click Finish, Click OK, and Login - hopefully your are now connecting fine :)
"antal, I've never tried it, but if you check through the comments you'll find others have (load page with all comments and search that), and successfully, too, so it must be doable!"
I know Cor, I tried before and I tried again, but those comments give no usable information for my problem. :( I haven't found any explanation for this lpt uploading thing.
Anyway, I tried the best as I can. I buy another router or modem..
Thanks Cor :)
Regards
Tony
Any help would be appreciated...
I was able to have an audio conversation via msn yestereday without a problem...
Nothing has changed on my system but when I have gone to try audio (to the same person) via messenger today, as it connects, all of the lights on the voyager 205 router light up (all 5 instead of the usual 3)... then the connection freezes and the only way to fix it is to restart the router or machine.
I spoke with BT and they offered to replace the router, but it never happened yesterday.. Any ideaswhat could be causing it?
Another handy tip, I read about the voyager getting hot - and man does it! Then I realised I've recently upgraded my PC... so I have a spare Athlon XP1900 heat sink sitting arround, I've stuck that to the top of it and its made a huge difference (even without the fan running!).
So a handy tip, when you upgrade keep that old heatsink and use it for your router, with careful placement in the middle it can avoid covering the vents and make it all run much cooler.
cor, a great web site - thanks for all your efforts.
Have you had any experience with NAT rules for VMWare virtual machines? I'm not sure whether to set up a 'bridged' ip connection and have the 205 NAT the http request's or have a 'NAT' ip connection to the host server and let VMWare manage the http traffic. Any thoughts?
Also, with ZoneAlarm, do you happen to know of a quick way of permitting all incoming traffic that made it through the IPF/NAT rules but disabling all outbound traffic so that it will prompt me to accept/reject them?
Thanks, CM
Vinny, the upload speed has nothing whatsover to do with your download speed, unless it's maxed out, in which case it will have everything to do with you not downloading at all! In other words, NO, you can't reach your full potential, UNLESS you cap your upload speed (and also do not overload your Max IP sessions limit of (tweaked) 512).
graham, if that was my line, I'd move house! Thanks for the info, dude! (and beloth, none of the VPN info around here came from me, I have zero VPN experience! by the way, the ex-peecee heatsink is a great idea! but not as classy as a 1940's paperweight! hmm?)
Ponty, the original firmware used to do this. I would be doing VoIP calls for days, no problem, then the next day BANG! locked! And again! The firmware upgrade seemed to fix it, though I don't use communicator that much these days.
CiderMark, the only factors that come to mind for the 205/VMWare decision, are the 512 Max IP session limit, wich you could (I think) overcome with a "pass-through" connexion, and the "always-on-ness" of the 205, it's handy having the internet "there", even when your server breaks down, you might need technical assistance! I like the 205 >> Switch >> puters setup, mainly for the always-on-ness. I just know here's a proper word for that!
ZoneAlarm; sure, just add an "Expert Rule" [ firewall prefs >> Expert tab] I'm assuming you mean ZoneAlarm Pro, otherwise I've no idea!
l*rz..
;o)
I have just installed my Voyager 205. I have Windows XP professional with two user accounts set up which are both set up as "Administrator". I can get internet access using one account but not the other. On the other account, I get the following error message:
Forbidden you were denied access because: Access denied by access control list.
Are you able to advise how I might fix this problem?
well the only way i could see this happening tony is if you are using USB to connect the router to the peecee, in which case you will have installed the drivers you need for USB using the admin that has internet access, correct? in which case, run through this whole site, i mean ALL of it lol, and switch to the CAT-5 cable that came with your router(ethernet), it's alot better all round.
Coem back if you have any trouble switching.
Bael
pc...look Cor another reason to not use USB =P maybe BT should just stop supplying the router with a USB cable lol xD they must get loads of customers phoning up complaining about their connection =S
pc=ps btw :P
I hate the voyager 205,
Its like a stink nugget stuck to a hair on my arse,
Or it could be BT's fault, I hate them 2!!!
PS. im ranting because first time i plugged in my Voyager to the usb, i was downloading at 200 -250 kbps and now i can get 100-150 if im lucky using either the usb or my ethernet.
Its all gone pete tong
what are you trying to download?? and what are you using to download stuff?? it's not very common i can download 1 torrent at 200-250kbps, it goes on seeds other peers etc to, so you probably do stil have the power to download at 200-250kbps just not all on one file, try downloading multiple files at once, and ttoal the DL speed of al your downloads, max speed i've had approx was 260kbps with a total of 3 files DLin.
Bael
Na, im trying like demos from websites, or anything really, i have tried torrents but not much.
The speedtest also says im betweeen and meg and 1.5mb,
ive tried yahoo speedtest, ive tried adsl guide, ive try dslreports, etc etc, all about the same
Na, im trying like demos from websites, or anything really, i have tried torrents but not much.
The speedtest also says im betweeen and meg and 1.5mb,
ive tried yahoo speedtest, ive tried adsl guide, ive try dslreports, etc etc, all about the same
Anyone know how to hack the 205 to work with Kazaa Lite??
Jim did you even read anything on the site?? or did you think,
"i know i'll go straight to the comments section and wait for someone to tell me to read the site" lol =P j.k man, but seriously, read the site, the whole lot of it ;)
vinny try the "toast bandwidth test" search in google, see what you get in there, on that one i usually get more than 2mbps :P
Bael
Cor those rules worked well but still after 1hr i lost speed and peers made internet crash. I am currently ordering stuf u suggested :P I already have a lan card. Just need to double check here, Ethernet switch yea? And most importantly the cable il need is it a "CAT 5 RJ45 PATCH CABLE?" That is to connect my Pc from lan card to the switch?
Last but now least lol, when im reinstalling software what should i choose because i normaly pick gaming option because my xbox is linked up and in there the steps say use usb to connect pc :S
Thanks for help :) Apreciate it.
Mick didn't you get a CAT-5 cable with your router?? if not then yeah, thats the cable you need =P
and what you talking about, "when im reinstalling software" lmao...dude with ethernet you don't need the software :P you just link your puter/xbox/router all to your switch, sort out the static IPs etc, create rules, and your off :P no crappy BT drivers required =D
Bael
Thank you Bael.
I scoured the whole internet and eventually found the answer.
Open Internet Explorer
Go to Tools
Go to Options
Click Connections
Click LAN Settings
Ensure that "Use a proxy server for your LAN" is not ticked.
And now it all works fine.
Thanks for your help
Beal uve just made my day lol if i hear that bt gurl talk on that cd 1 more time i think il throw my new pc out the window tyvm. I did but i cant remember wat i did with it lol or if its the 1 the xbox is using. The ethernet switch is weird tho.. i thought it was like a 5er but its like £16.00 not that im a cheap skate lol jus i aint entirely sure if its the right 1. Hope it is. Ne ways tyvm bt shud hire u and cor lol.
thats weird, i just left a comment and its gone,
anyway, my connection drops after downloading for abit.... like half an hour to an hour, i get 0 download and 0 upload.
Any ideas?
heh np Mick =P
Vinny the reason for this is, your either connected to your router via USB rather than ethernet, or you are exceeding your max IP connections or your upload bandwidth, enter this rule in a telnet session with your router:
and makesure on all of your p2p's you cap how much of your upload bandwidth they can use, the max is 25kbps so be sure to share it out between all the p2ps you use.
Bael
Just installed 205 and works fine when connected direct to card in pc but doesnt when connected to Linksys mini hub. Ethernet light doesnt come on. Gateway set on pc and static IP address, have you any ideas as BT doesnt!
Many thanks
Breezer
hi, I've just started using a BT voyager 205 ADSL router. I play doom 3 a lot online and since I've started using this service I have had difficuilties connecting to game servers with punkbuster enabled. I have heard that certail ADSL routers can cause problems with punkbuster.
Have you heard of this? and do you know how to fix it?
Cheers,
Craig
this guide certainly worked wonders for me, i spent aaaaages tryin get my DSL to run smoothly with torrents, now i get respectable dwloads easy! excellent work my friend.
Cheers
Mike
thanx for a fantastic site.
i had just bought this modem down the boot sale and found it had no drivers disk, thought i'd bought a dud. BT were bluddy useless when trying to get help, and a friend recommended this site...
Thanx, if it weren't for people like this, we'd all be screwed!
just what ive been looking for?
i spent weeks looking @ bt site?
nice one
thank you
no more time lost from now on.
The advice on site has totally transformed my net connection with the voyager205 router. The "modify nat global udptimeout 10" was the command that really turned my internet from patchy and prone to freezes and timeouts, to one with rock solid stability and reliability, no matter how much activity I throw at it! - THANK YOU for this page!
Cheers for the site, now all stealthed up.
Thought people reading might appreciate knowing what to do in the case they already had a firewall. I had an SMC Barricade Wireless broadband router, firewall, etc box. I'd previously just had an ADSL modem, but now I ended up with a Voyager 205 - so I had 2 firewalls! Which meant opening two lots of ports every time I added a server for web, ftp, ssh, vnc etc. This was a pain. I knew there had to be a way of bypassing one of the boxes and now I've done it. I had previously plugged the voyager via ethernet into the WAN port of the SMC box. Here's how I changed things:
1) Change the IP address of the SMC box to be on the 192.168.1.* subnet (I used 192.168.1.254)
2) Turn off the DHCP server in the SMC box (if it all goes pear shaped and you need to turn it back on, set your PC's IP address to be 192.168.1.something and then you can browse to 192.168.1.254)
3) Reboot the SMC
4) Unplug the patch cable between Voyager and SMC
5) Plug a crossover cable (not patch cable) between a free ethernet LAN port on the SMC and the ethernet port of the voyager.
6) On one of your PC's bounce the internet connection
You should now get assigned IP addresses on your lan by the voyager box. The SMC is just acting as a switch and wireless gateway. Only thing left todo is change the NAT forwarding rules on the voyager to point to the correct machines and you're done!
Go Bael, GO!
Breezer, if you're using a regular CAT-5 cable, try a crossover cable, or visa-versa.
Craig, check the Useful links section (above these comments) go to the public archive, and download the "default+console" ready-made router config. that should sort you out. read the notes first, of course. You'll need static IP's on your machines if you don't already.
Thanks for the info Rob, Tony, BAM, I'm always adding bits to this section, where they won't slide off the page like these comments do, and examples of real-world working setups are invaluable. cheers!
Hey Mick, you saying there's a woman talks on the BT driver install CD?? yikes! am I glad I chucked THAT!
;o)
ps.. and hey! thanks for all the flowers guys!
lol you telling us you never even tried using USB Cor?? =P
ahhh that woman did my head in too lol :P but you do knwo you can mute her right Mick lol =P
Bael
never!
NEVER NEVER NEVER!
;o)
ps.. never say never!
Cor,
Don't want to move house. (I'm reminded of that old NTL website which gave the helpful reply "You cannot receive cable at that address, why not try another postcode.")
I've also had the all-5-lights on problem, even though I'm not using any voice products.
Does anybody know the correct way to upload the latest firmware without frying the router? BT won't help unless I've got their VOIP offering. They probably don't know anyway, since they didn't even know you needed a crossover cable to connect to a hub!
Hey I Use Bt Yahoo Voyager 205 I Think Its S*it! Cuz it Kicks Me Off Msn And Stuff Kicks Me Off Help !
Ive been trying to get eMule working with bt yahoo and the great voyager 205 and im getting no-where ive tried everything on this site to no avail its driving me crazy. I can get other p2p programs running which i use instead of emule when i cant be bothered to massage it into action!
Has anyone here achived a problem free running of eMule here because if u have id like to here from u before i give up altogether.
at the momment eMule connects for all of 20min b4 disconnecting reconnecting and then repeating. i had 97 recconects in 12 hours yesterday. Im not sharing anymore than 67 files so way below the hard limits of the servers. Im also only downloading 5 files or less at a time.
the error msg that sometimes appears is that my port is unreachable. Why ive opened it up and seen as emule can connect for a good 20min is obviously not unreachable! could it be that it temporarily becomes unreachable at some point?
ok thats me any help would be greatfull
cheers
Zero go through every page of this site, do what it tels you, and if you're still having problems, THEN come and post here.....
Rodders it sounds like a KAD problem to me =P your exceeding your Max connections, so first of all disable KAD in your e-mule settings, and then open a telnet session with your router and enter the following rule:
as for the "port unreachable" error, i've never actually use e-mule myself, so don't know which ports need opening, but you are certain you opened every port e-mule requires? are there any UDP ports e-mule requires??
Bael
Hi
I've got a BT Voyager 205 and an Asus WL-500g Wireless Router Nat Firewall. I want to connect the Voyager to the router but disable all the features of the Voyager such as the nat etc so that its all delt with by the Asus. I started by connecting the Voyager to my laptop and used telnet to set all the tweaks as described above. I also update the DNS to the plus.net ones. I then used Will's advice and enabled ZipB via telnet.
I now have on my laptop the Public IP of my connection and the public gateway and it all works. However if I attach the modem then to my WAN port of the Asus it doesn't work. I've tried setting up the connection to the modem through the asus by manual configuration rather than automatic but no joy. I have noticed though that on the Laptop with just the modem connected it assignes an IP through the DHCP server on 192.168.1.1 which of course is the same IP as what the Asus is going to want to be, so I figured this would be a problem. So I changed the address on the Voyager to 192.168.2.1, again works on the laptop but it still doesn't want to play ball through the router. All I want is for the Voyager to act purly as a modem and to leave everything else such as the nat and firewall to the Asus router. I can e-mail you the current config file for the Voyager if that is helpful. Thanks
graham, you only have one postcode?
okay, this is how me, infidel-of-the-easy-path, super-64-bit-individual upgrades his firmware... via the BT web interface! how else? are you nuts?
Zero, even just the few voyager pages here, eh!
Matt, what you want is called "zipb mode", load this page with all comments and do a quick type-to-find (damn! I'm glad Firefox incorporated that feature!**) for the gory details. It's doable.
Rodders, also get those timing tweaks right down.
dudes!, I used to run eMule occasionally, but these days, with my fetish for rare jazz recordings and whatnot, I have it running all the time. I forget it's there, except when I think of something I'd like to grab. And there's the torrent queue on the Linux box, it's going full-pelto 24/7, azzy watches a folder, loads em up automatically, I just get on with my work, surf the web, get email, don't really consider all the P2P activity going on in the background, or my workshop webserver with its two dozen brainless would-be hAcKeR3-a-day, and the ftp server. I could go on.
If it's not working, it's because it's not correctly configured! blaming the hardware is insanity, we all have the same box! and it works fine! Your BT download (AND UPLOAD, COMBINED) limit is 30GB/month. that's, say, 1GB a day = 42MB an hour = 700k per minute = 115kb/s-ish. I can get 240kb/s, w00h00! but what's the point? I'd use up my limit in a fortnight!
Once the novelty of broadband internet wears off, you'll just get on with it and forget about all the silly record-breaking.
thank you
;o)
1: in firefox's user.js file, set..
user_pref("accessibility.typeaheadfind.linksonly", false);for type-to-find ALL words, not just links. how stupid is that default?
why oh why does all my settings disappear when i unplug/power down the v205 adsl modem?
Hi Guys,
I'm a beginner at these things, but my comms knowledge isn't too bad. I have Windows XP Home SP2 X-Over connected to the Voyager 205 connected to the net via BT (dynamic IP). What I want to do is set myslef up on DestinyRadio or pirateradionetwork.com. This requires incoming broadcast requests for the Destiny Radio software to be forwarded to my machine's private (static) IP address port 80. There are some IP Filter rules built into the firmware (1.6) which seem to filter incoming port 80 requests (this is the one I need to use for the software) I am not sure what to do with them. I am not running a web server or anything else that uses port 80 as far as I know. How do I do it, can you help me please?
hipokondriak you need to save the changes you make to your router after making them, you can do this to ways:
1) click the little red "save" button, on the left toolbar on the web interface.
2)type "commit" without quotes, in a telnet session with your router.
also when you power off the router, when you turn it back on all the default rules are put back, so goto the public archive(link above comments) and download the "automatic deletons script".
Bael
Hi Hipokondriak,
I'm not an expert on this router, but as far as I understand any settings you change after the router is switched on using telnet or whatever resort back to the defaults in the firmware unless you have saved the configuration.
Tornado, simply delete them! delete them all. if you check out the public archives (links above these comments) there's a thing called "rad" which will eRADicate all those nasty rules should you ever need to power-cycle the router (at least the few important ones that are automatically re-insterted *grr*)
of course you'll need to setup the router properly, as per the router pages here, and make a port-forwarding rule for the serber (the webserver rule on the recipes is exactly what you need)
I notice I don't have a ready-made config script for web servers yet, hmm, surely no one's motivated me yet.
;o)
hi, cor
thanks for all help last time, you sorted me right out
i had to reboot/reinstall
but i had to reinstall BT shit cd aswell, i couldnt connect to voyager205 without it
tried the xp connection wizard and it couldnt find router ( i think )
is there any chance you could do a bit (or a page) on setting up connection without installing BT drivers
i managed it before, so i dont know what im doing wrong, must have forgotten something
cheers Crusti
I am a beginner in the extreme and this was some hard stuff to follow but I got there in the end and this is some of the most usefull information I have ever found on the internet. Thanks alot!
hi i have just bought a bt voyager 205 adsl router, i am an aol broadband customer and i bought the 205 so i could set up a network with another computer, problem is that the disc that came with it for the drivers and install is set up for bt broadband, could you tell me how to set it up so that i can use it with aol,(i only got the bt 205 because aol provided me with a bt 105 but aol dont give technical support for this brand of router so im on my own please help.
Cor...
Crusti wondows doesn't need to be able to detect the router, mine doesnt lol, if i goto my device manager, i don't have any routers, closest thing to my router on the device manager page is my NIC properties...
all you need to do is(well first of all take them pieca crap drivers off
carl you don't need the disc, why is everyone's (apart from cor's xD) initial thought, is to install the drivers for USB lol, just purchase an "ethernet switch", this is the one i use, then set a static IP(i gave a link to the static IP page to crusti) on both(they have to have different static IPs lol) your computers, link em both to the switch, link the router to the switch, and go about configuring your router for both computers with rules as advised on these pages :)
Bael
my windows box doesn't suspect I have a router on the network. it's a secret. it knows that lots of data comes through there, but it has no idea what sort of device it's dealing with. it's on a need-to-know basis, and XP doesn't need to know. They only way it might guess is with uPnP, but XP's uPnP features are best totally disabled at this time.
Guys! Throw out your BT CD's! DO IT NOW! and put a sticker over the router's USB port, reading "DO NOT USE!", use red ink. Save your USB fun for digicams and keyboards. Networking is an ethernet job.
That wasn't just for crusti (hiya dude!) and carl, but anyone who even considers putting that USB cable anywhere near their router!
Simply; setup a static ethernet network (disable uPnP on XP), install one of the ready-made router config scripts, and that's it! No USB, and defnitely NO drivers required!
Thanks Phill, you probably noticed that a lot of the stuff here is designed to be absorbed on the second reading!
for now..
;o)
Thanks for your info peeps, its just me being daft really. I mean whats that button marked "Save" for really.
I thank you all for ignoring my stoopidddity.
until the next glitch ... TTFN
Just to let people know that I got my BT Voyager 205 working correctly with my Linksys WRT54G, it was simple in the end (even if it took me weeks)
I reset both the Voyager and the WRT54G back to factory standard
Plugged the Voyager into the Linksys WLAN socket (after doing a couple of minor changes (no disconnected etc))
Connected the Linksys to my PC via ethernet
Went to the Linksys frontpage and changed the IP range to 192.168.2.xxx from 192.168.1.xxx
That's it, everything working, Wireless, Ethernet routing, and both the voyager and linksys are accessable via 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.2.1 respectivly.
Old Duffer.
Just want to say thanks for all the help the advice has given me on this site, really appreciated. Still struggling a bit to get good download speeds on Azureus but I am going to try a few more things before I throw myself at the mercy of all the dudes here. Again thanks
Hi Cor and beal, argh stil having that problem, ive orderd the switch and cable so should be here on friday at latest but seriously this cant be all down to usb?
Working:
NOT Working:
Download is fine when i start it then after 30mins or so the connection jus drops (pics above), then i cant use msn or websites and whole internet is stoped for soooo long, then i gota switch pc of by plug and router to get it working again :'(
As a refresher -
.ive stealthed,
.got a static ip,
.opened ports 6881-6889
And like u told me last time ive done the following commands:
.modify ppp global keepalive enable
.modify ppp global pppsesstimer nevertimeout
.modify nbsize maxipsess 512
I may have forgotten to do 1 of the last 3 commands there but not sure where to check if they are done il redo em but if they are done can you suggest the problem pleassssse? TYVM...Again!
P.s - Sorry for writing a small novel lol.
yup Mick alll down to USB lol :P i had your exact same problems when i was on USB =)
Bael
Ok cheers m8. stuff arrived earlier, i ordered the switch and a cat-5 for my pc... little did i know the switch doesnt come with 1 of its own to hook into the router! Arghh gota b at least another week until i get another cable for it, god dam tragidy lol. Thanks again.
Hi, so far you site has been great but i'm stuck!. I don't know if this is the right place for this but since this is all about the voyager 205 i guess your most likely to have an answer. i can't stay on msn very long without it logging me off and then it reconnects and occasionally websites simply don't load up or take several minutes. The only solution for that is to press stop and try again where (usually the 3rd time) it opens as fast as normal. I can still download stuff of websites at a decent rate its just these little things are getting really annoying!On top of that I've been through the checklist several times but when i use your port probe for limewire (6346) i still get connection refused. This might be all linked to the fact my phoneline is really old (it cuts off reguarly if it rains a lot!) but anything to try and help would be much appreicated!
Thanks, Charlie
Cheers for the info Old Duffer! noted!
That's a good approach huytonbad, if only more folks followed your excellent example!
Yes Mick, that's unmistakably USB.
Charlie, I'd get your router setup with one of the ready-made scripts. then you know THAT'S working! The connexion refused means either a) you have no port-forwarding rule, b) you have a firewall somewhere, or c) the app you are testing isn't running. I don't think you need rules for MSN, I don't use it, but a scan of all the comments here would certainly answer that (load page with all comments and do a quick type-to-find in Firefox)
Your phone line definitley sounds like a culprit, it's amazing you have broadband at all, and I'd definitely recommend you start hassling BT about this (and really, often that's the only way to get them to do anything; hassle, daily).
hey! y'all like the new host? hopefully corz.org should be up and running every night now. I got mail, too, so I might code in some "subscribe to this thread" type funny business. I need to fix this time-difference thing, though. hmmm.
for now..
;o)
Thu Jun 30 22:36:34 2005 : MAJOR ALARM : DSL Interface Down
$
Thu Jun 30 22:36:34 2005 : MAJOR ALARM : ATM Interface Down : Interface - atm-0
$
Thu Jun 30 22:36:34 2005 : WARNING : PPP Interface Down : Interface - ppp-0
Thu Jun 30 22:36:34 2005 : WARNING : ATM VC Down : Interface - aal5-0, PortId=7,
Vpi=0, Vci=38
$
Thu Jun 30 22:37:23 2005 : STATUS ALARM : DSL Interface Up
Thu Jun 30 22:37:23 2005 : STATUS ALARM : ATM Interface Up : Interface - atm-0
Thu Jun 30 22:37:23 2005 : STATUS ALARM : ATM VC Up : Interface - aal5-0, PortId
=7, Vpi=0, Vci=38
$save
Error: Invalid command
$
$
Thu Jun 30 22:37:45 2005 : STATUS ALARM: PPP Authorization Successful : Interfac
e - ppp-0
$
Thu Jun 30 22:37:45 2005 : STATUS ALARM : PPP Interface Up : Interface - ppp-0
Hey guys, can someone help me and give me a solution to this problem? it keeps repeating and disconnects me from BT then reconnects 2 minutes later then disconnects about 8 minutes later. Thanks for the fix on Steam by the way Corz, helped alot :)
I did exactly the same thing when ordering my switch Mick lol xD
Yosh, looks like your ISP (BT?) is having difficulties. put a few logs on the fire and ride it out methinks.
;o)
Big help needed PLEASE
I 'attempted' a few weeks back to get TZO working via BT Broadband (Voyager 205) ... I never sussed it.
So I'm back again and asking:
Is there a 'fools guide' I can follow to get it working? Or will some kind soul guide me through it?
TIA ... Mick
Maybe some progress! I've been tweaking all night and finally I think I'm heading in the right direction ... well I hope so :-)
Now when I go to my tzo website I get my voyager page http://192.168.1.1/hag/pages/home.htm ... so I'm assuming I am close to getting TZO working
Can anyone please advise what I need to do next?
Mick
YOSH me gets the same prob as u, exactly the same prob and in a telnet window i get the same "alarms"...evryone i know who uses BT and has the voyager 205 router has the same probs - iv searched the net for solutions but nothing seems to hav worked...iv even tried advice as far as to turn the thing upside down n see if it works and to no surprise it didnt.
so basically iv sat on the idea that it is just a shitty piece of equipment.
qaim
But there's folk out there that use it mate! ... so lets hope that the 'gurus' can help us
Mick
Mick, the commands should be almost identical to the dyndns commands (check the new tricks page), except you don't get the "extra" features. Essentially you need to do..and you should be good to go. You can create up to three separate hostnames. have fun!
qasim, wake up and rtfm!
;o)
hi playing xbox live cannot play anyone on ntl can u help ,can play people on bt do i need to open up ports if so can you please help.
jay, load this page with all comments and do a type-to-find for "xbox", I'm no gamer, but I'm fairly sure the information you need is up there already.
;o)
Brilliant! It works a treat, just one question though. When i'm running Azureus my computer decides to turn itself off at random intervals, is ther a reason for this and also is there a way of stopping this from happening??
Thanks.
Mylo
Mylo, unless you are using USB, this is unlikely to be a router problem.
Check you maximum connexion settings in Azzy, make it no more than 400 total, say 200 per torrent (and this is assuming you've applied the max connexions tweak to the voyager). Ensure you have the latest JRE installed, too (available from sun.com, probably), older ones can cause problems, especially with slower machines.
And of course, check your system logs! (if it's windows, run "eventvwr.exe") There's probably clues there. Investigate!
;o)
Hi there. Inoticed that the name of the firewall is IPF and assumed that the ruleset would be the same as the IPFX firewall that ships with BSD systems. However, I then noticed that this was not the case. I have found your proposed rules fairly easy to follow and understand but was wondering if you know of any links where I can study the ruleset a bit deeper.
Thanx
This is the place!
Check the useful links section (above these comments), dive into the public archive for a gaggle of interesting documents, the large PDF's are probably what you are after, they go into the details of traffic flow, IP layers and what-not. A fair read!
;o)
Thanx. I had looked at the links but hadn't seen the help pages inside the router itself. Very helpful indeed. I found NAT help pages as well there.
I was wondering if this IPF is based on a standardised router firewall or is something particular to this BT product or viking in general.
Do you know if/how I could install snort on my router to analyse traffic flow to and from my router?
Yes, the internal help is often overlooked. The IPF, as far as I know, is part of the embedded server system, it's a viking thing, here's the chipset page.
Your chances of installing snort on the 205 are slim. There was a guy (a few pages of comments ago) said he'd installed Linux on a Viking router, but that's the last we heard. The built-in logging is actually pretty good, check out the tricks page for more info. Sure, it's not snort, but certainly good data if that sort of thing interests you.
;o)
Hi Guys!
I was wondering if you could help me out. I keep getting crappy connections when trying to play games online. Like I can barely connect to servers it just won't let me. I tried forwarding ports but that did jack. I'm using USB (shock horror) is this the problem or is it a firewall issue? Thanks.
USB is always the problem lol xD
Before we go any further..
If you insist on using USB to connect to the router, expect to a) have lots of trouble with your internet connexion, b) be ignored here when you ask perfectly reasonable questions, and c) spend a lot of time at the troubleshooting page, on your own! Simon says, "Get a NIC!", or words to that effect, which is a "Network Interface Card" and will cost around three bucks in any currency. He really did say that! Check the comments!
Okay, NOW we can start..
Cor maybe you should put like the USB notice at the top of this page, so people read it before posting here xD it seems most people just skip actually reading and come straight to the comments lol XD
Bael
When I do a list command I get 'home'. What is that? Is it a file or a directory. There doesn't appear to be a 'cd' command so how do you navigate the file system.
me (nothing strange about me talking to me!) How do you navigate around the filesystem? Answer: FTP! The shell is really just for entering commands.
breadmurderer, Bael speaks the truth! USB is webcams!
for now..
;o)
Ok thanks guys. I did read the USB notice above but I just wanted to make sure.
Arrrrrrrrgh! i hate pcs and internet wat ever happened to carrier pigeon?
Newest problem with new pc is this, i cant get on the dam configuration page, well i can except it work right. i cant get in anything under advanced tab (ADSL, ip adressing Etc.) but i can click quick start and trouble shooting.
I read ur troubleshooting page and i turned of norton antivirus and stuff (i h8 that thing)basicly i jus dont understand why i cant get into the options from advanced menu when i click like for instance ip routing the last page on the screen jus remains there (usualy quick start).
Like the stupid idiot i am i restored router to factory settings hoping it would fix the problem but it didnt, so now i cant even get into it to turn of DHCP MODE to amek my ip static, Argh.
If you can point wat ive done wrong this time or rules to turn DHCP MODE of and a rule to DMZ my xbox from telnet that wud rock, Thanks again in advance and omg i hate technology lol.
now that ive rechecked i cant even get in the dam troubleshooting page lol jus quick start, and also when i click advanced pages nothing happens then when i click again it asks for pass and usrname which i put in and click ok then i can see the choices of the advanced menu but cant open them. Sry i left that out. :)
MIck
Having restored the router get rid
of your static ip for the moment
turn off all firwalls!! and try
again its normally a firewall that
blocks access
best
barney
ok cor the wierdest thig has happened, today i got a game, that requires tcp port 7700 open to be able to play, so i created NAT/IPF rules for that port, and began to play, and yet i was still getting no connections, i thought wierd xD so i came here, probed the port, and got connectin timed out(probably stealthed), so i checked my rules, and everything was fine, so then i started BT and probed it's port....and i get conenction refused again =S so i then went to check all my apparently open ports...and they are all closed. I have no idea what is causing this lol, they were fine maybe a week ago, but the strange thing is i'm still geting a green light on BT and decent DL speeds =S
I ran through the checklist also:
-Ofcourse I'm connected By ethernet =P
-stealthed with rules 5+500000
-DHCP Mode is disabled
-everything NAT'd wioth rule 100000
-well lots of ports, but for example i'll use 6881 and 7700 both with NAT and IPF rules, directed to 192.168.1.4
-security is set to high
-static IP 192.168.1.4
-default gateway 192.168.1.1
-DNS same as above
-No Firewalls installed, Windows Firewall disabled
-subnet mark 255.255.255.0
-Both UPnP services are disabled
any ideas man?
Thanx,
Bael
Bael, gotta be a config thing dude, your still happily accepting connexions on other ports, like your web server, I can see your ampsig, for instance. very strange. goan export your config and mail it to me, I gotta check this out!
MIck, did you run through the recommendations here, there's two sections about this issue! In particular, remember you need JavaScript enabled to use the voyager web interface. Barney's right, it's usually a firewall messing around with things, altering javascript code, denying stuff, whatever. start with everything off and work from there.
If you use one of my ready-made scripts (even one with your own rules tweaked into place) there is no need to enter the voyager web interface, ever. I honestly can't remember the last time I used it.
;o)
kk mailed it :) lol gotta love the ampsig plug
Bael
note: the port probe is under investigation, since I moved to the new web host there have been reports of "unusual behaviour", so use grc.com until we get it figured out.
;o)
ps.. ampsig plug? like a plug-in? oh! right! I see what you mean!
pps.. by the way, if anyone doesn't have a clue what we're on about, ampsig is a free and completely cool FREE dynamic "now playing" signature image generator that is packed with features, comes with a host of extra goodies, schemes, uptime updater application and much more, and did I mention that it's FREE?
Will it work for the msn gaming zone
Thanx cor. FTP doh!!! Why didn I think o'that.
Another wee question f'yez.
Tracreoute isn't getting any useful answers back with the firewall up. I'm guessing this is because the ICMP replies are not getting through because the firewall is not recognising them as being related to the pings/udp's which are fired out.
I've tried with no avail to make a rule to let this through with no joy. Any suggestions for a rule which let traceroute get its replies?
And furthermore, is there anyway of getting the firewall to associate the replies to the requests so that I can limit access to the ICMP replies that traceroute instigated? (I doubt it but I thought it was worth asking)
well me, the second part will happen automatically, thanks to the stateful inspection (though I'm not 100% certain, I'd have to think about it. test and get back to me!), and the first part is here. Rememeber, there's also a traceroute function built-in to the 205.
Yes Nick, it should do. What are the requirements of MSN Gaming Zone? Does it need ports forwarded or something?
;o)
Hi Everyone!
Weird problem Slightly long winded sorry.......
A friend has just moved into his new house and asked that the phone line be changed to broadband. "Can't be done till date X" say BT "due to previous contracts - we'll do it the day after, oh and we'll give you a new number, to distinguish you from the previous owner" all good so far.
Date "Y" and telecom phone and say all is good and they're sending a 205 router as per my mate's choice.
Router arrives and he sets it up according to instructions (I don't know much about this stage - I wasn't there). Initially I'm told that the DSL didn't sync for ages, however eventually it did and the dsl light went on solid.
My mate was given some instructions to log on to broadband.....a lot of very different instructions
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none of which worked....
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and so he gave me a call to have a quick look (I know a wee bit about routers etc).
So:-basics
Ethernet connection to router :-
all ok
we can ping the router.
we can http onto the router and see all the available pages.
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First prob - no visible logs!
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The router says it is ready to go ("showtime" hah!)
I couldn't see anything wrong as such. Just wouldn't log on in the way BT suggest.
BT advised the entry of the username "voyager205user@btbroadband.com" with no password (!) as apparently this is authenticated at the exchange against the line. (So I'm told)
When connect is pressed on the primary screen a messaged is seen saying "Sucessfully changed username and password" but the screen displayed shows no connection. There is no WAN Ip address etc. So it looks like an authentication problem or the router is bust. BT have sent a new one to no effect (exactly the same)
BT say there is no problem at their end. They sent an engineer who installed the usb driver (grrr!) and went away saying it was weird and he didn't understand.
BT Rang my mate and claimed it was his PC!!!!!!! how? what? They also claim their engineer didn't change anything on the PC, and it was all my mate's fault!!!
I'm now a bit confused - I don't understand where they (BT) are coming from and a bit worried - What could be wrong? looks like authentication to me (or a line block) - What should/could we look at in the router to check?
Please help!
Thx barney and cor, but like last week i cud get on the pages, i have downloaded new java things and stuff and its all enabled and yea i even disabled norton and tried it a few times with no joy :'( i dont know wat ive done differently to make the pages unacessiable. I think it mite have something to do with a virus or something mabey because last week since i restart my pc everytime it says "installing windows update" or something like that and then rite after it starts norton says it doesnt support it and shuts it down, i aint got a clue wat it is or how 2 get rid of it.
Cor ive been looking for a ready made script to turn DHCP MODE of and to make an ip address a DMZ but i cant see em on here.
And yea im stil on usb i got a switch but im 1 cable short and weirdly my ethernet cable for my xbox doesnt fit in it, its driving me crazy!
Thx for help so far guys apreciated much.
alright,
firstly some sucking up, this page is well useful and so thanks for that.
secondly, i got this bloody router and was assured i could connect it to a switch so i could share my connection but i plug it into the switch i have (netgear fs105) and the connection lights dont come on on the switch or the 205. my isp pretty much refuse to give me any support (even though they sell it as a network package they wont give network support because it works when its just plugged into my computer) and im sure they wont give me a refund. so my question to you is any idea in hell how i can make it work? am i just missing a setting?
thanks
Matt-S, you need to take this whole thing back to basics. First, forget the peecee (and remove those damned USB drivers!), if the 205 is connected by ethernet, the state of the peecee does not affect your internet access. The pc could blow into a thousand pieces, it still won't affect your internet, as such, though web surfing would be a challenge!
Reset the router back to factory default (hole in back). Unplug all other phones in the house until you have it working (or at least for ten minutes while you test). Then plug in the 205's power and phone line cables only, and switch it on. there should be a sequence of lights finishing up with the power and DSL lights solid.
If that hasn't happened, then there must be a problem with your line. If all the lights go on, or whatever, again, nothing to do with your peecee (it's not even plugged into the unit at this stage)
There is no need to "log on" to BT, you could use username: mickey mouse password: disney, it makes no difference, you are authenticated by your unique telephone line's ID. You don't login, you just connect. Within a few seconds of the router being switched on, that ethernet socket at the back will have internet access.
If the DSL light isn't on, the 205 hasn't synced with the line, and you have a line problem. the chances of being sent two faulty 205's is as near to zero as it gets. Only when the 205 is synced and connected to the net do we involve computers.
THEN plug in the peecee, and use it to upload one of the "ready-made" configs (see usueful links section above the comments), following its instructions carefully. the router will reboot.
If you have any troubles, run the advanced diagnostics available in the 205's web interface, which will test every phase of the connexion process and report any errors. you might want to do that before you begin all this, just to see if anything obvious is wonky.
Some telecoms engineers are hugely knowledgeable and very helpful, but sadly these types are not in the majority at BT, and often their results can be taken with a pinch of salt. make an unrelated call to the broadband engineering department and have them test your line. Ask them to turn up the juice if neeed be. Don't let them off the hook!
Read through all the pages in the voyager area here, especially the static IP page, and troubleshooting page, especially the bottom of it, as well as this very page, for some solid, tried-and-tested information, and a better idea of the capabilities and limitations of the 205. Good luck!
Mick, in my experience, Norton firewall is bad news. Just ininstall it! And get along to windows update immediately and get your OS bang up to date. Check for virii however one does that (I don't ever feel the need to do this) and ensure the peecee is 100% before you start hurling stones at the router.
Avoid using a DMZ, there's no need. If you have a games console, check out the "default+console" ready-made script, which has "perfect stealth", and sends all stray requests to the console. No port-forwarding rules, no DMZ required.
And finally, none of this is relevant, meaningful or useful until you are on ethernet. only in very rare and special circumstances is it advisable to use USB, which was simply not designed for networking.
Yes tom, you are just missing the settings. You'll need to read the pages again! Usually this is mind-numbingly simple; you connect the ethernet port of the router to the uplink port of the switch, TADA! End of story. What's preventing this from working?
Go into the 205 and disable DHCP, make sure the peecee is on the same subnet (192.168.1.something) as the router and set it up as per static IP page. really, this should be a no-brainer, so I'm guessing something non-standard is preventing this. more information about your network settings would be useful.
Also, check what kind of cable you are using, is it a cross-over or straight cat-5? Whichever, try the other kind!
;o)
help sombody please, i am with aol and play xbox live using an ICS connection. I recently purchased a bt voyager 205 modem and cant get it to work. I have green lights just aol stopping me getting online i think. I have tried changing the settings for the modem but need to be online to do it. help me please
Preliminary Results
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OK I understand about the auth stuff...
DSL light is on :)
USB removed :))
ethernet connected
router available on http
Diag Tests say OK until PPPoA on which I get N/A, then everything stops
can't reach the internet from his PC at all :(
thanks for all your help from these pages... they are a permanent bookmark on my pcs.
would it be possible, for some kind soul to let me have an iso image of the bt cd rom that comes with this modem, as i do not have one. (i am curious about this voice i read about).
my modem no longer responds to the 192.168.1.1 address. it is still working (obviously) but it no longer shows up as a network device. any suggestions?
HIPOKONDRIAK
My suggestion is, turn off the modem, remove all cables, pick up the modem and take it outside, hold it between your thumb and fingers in your left hand, and proceed to "skip" into a kicking motion, whereby your leave go of the router as your nike air trainers kick it into its gloreous heaven, watch as it enjoys smashing on the floor and feel the satisfaction that you beat BT.
The next step is really important, pick up your mobile (dont worry he isnt going to get the same treatment, poor sod) and ring your nerdy mate, say the following words loudly and clearly "hoy, sort this piece of shit BT internet out or ill kick your fucking head in" ask him how much to buy a new plastic router friend and your happily downloading porn the next day.
If you would like this in PDF format or with a girly voice telling you how cool your going to be, then let me know
PS
god im bored
Latest Installment
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Went ove this afternoon, tried a telnet onto the router: gives immediate insight into problem :- errors all over the place re ppp down therefore no external ip etc.
Checked to see if router death by using subst router. Subst router shows ppp errors too. Conclusion : error is outside the building....
Is something of BTs stuff Fubar'd ?
Many thanks for your help so far - this is a GREAT spot on the web - appause!!!!
MS
hudson382, you don't need to be online to change the settings on the modem. that would be insane!
Matt-S, I guess you mean PPPoE, it's supposed to be N/A, for both of those. Then the authentication test. If that's where it's failing, you need to speak to your ISP. Apart from the two PPPoE tests, all tests should pass. it's pointless setting up the peecee if the router itself doesn't have internet access. If you reset the router and it doesn't pass all those tests, then there is a problem outside your control. Phone BT, and INSIST the remedy it.
hipokondriak, you don't want the CD. Put it out of your mind. For a women's voice, just visit a shop or something! As to the router, what do you mean "doesn't show up as a network device"? Mine doesn't show up anywhere, never has. That's for the best. Can you ping it?
Thanks for the input Vinny. please note peeps, Vinny's strategy is only useful when all other methods have failed.
;o)
I saw you script on how to remove the unwanted rules, and decided to do a compiled version.
it asks for the username and password and won't run if none is entered, it also shows the telnet session in the background as well as a progress bar.
here's a link to the source code and compiled .exe, it has been tested on a bt voyager 205a :)
hope you find it useful, and you can link it straight from my site :)
Hello Cor.
Its been a while since iv'e been here "Thanks to the great help and tips
from yourself and other users" My 205 has been working like a dream!.
Until a day or so ago,when my wife had pulled out the plug for my router, normaly not a real problem,as i have had this happen befor.
And as the times befor i used your rad.bat "automatic rule deletion".
but this time the cli opend deleted the first rule and started the second one but only d from delete showed up at the cmd prompt and it closed down?
Now when i try to use Telnet for any reason ie. creating nat.rules ect,
i get a blank cli ,and it stays open till i close it?
I have look't through my system and runing services,fire wall and cant see anything that would prevent telnet running.
The username and password are still as thay should be in rad.bat, and iv'e tryed my backups of the automatic rule deletion tool aswell.
Please can you help. Regards, Joker
Hi Cor - great site. Dumb question.. I want the 205 to act as a modem with an ethernet i/f (I need WLAN and just brought a Netgear WLAN router - w/o modem). I get the routing setup to each device, but can't make it work between them. 205 is set with factory defaul config.
Thoughts?
P
Rich, that link is inside a member's only area! (so, I'll remove it for now) hopefully this is a simple error on your part!
A compiled version of RAD is a great idea! (the windows version is shakey, I use the Linux script!) You might want to go all the way then, and have an app that reboots the router, waits a few seconds, and THEN deletes the rules. kill two birds with one stone, as it were.
can I see it?
Joker, this is too weird. Assuming you have a backup of your current setup (and if not, make one!), I'd reset the unit by poking something sharp in the back, and upload your config again.
Phlebus, we recently covered this, but it's not been written into the main pages yet (free time is always in short supply). Load this page with all comments (or just work back a few pages) and search for "zipb mode". that's what you're after.
l*rz..
;o)
If you can't get to the router's web page (http://192.168.1.1) AND you're using Onspeed, then try disabling Onspeed. For whatever reason, I always got a connection failed message, which baffled me until I noticed the origin...
Generated Sun, 10 Jul 2005 09:03:03 GMT by lithium.onspeed.com (squid/2.5.STABLE9)
Thanks for the hard work you've put into this site.
thanks vinny - good advice for the bt105 adsl modem, but i think i will hang on to this one for a while longer.
As to the CD, i said i'm curious as to the womans voice on it. I will probably trash it anyway, after listening to it, but at least i could nod knowingly when others refer to it.
it used to show up under UPnP or something in windows XP, but now has vanished. The program that showed it - was on a coverdisk from about 2 yrs ago and was called netpeer. it showed all network ip addresses and the logical name for all devices it found. It too has stopped working since the last windows update, from (ho-hum)microsoft updates.
Thanks
Thanx cor. It worked. What is icmp type number 11? What possibilities in terms of vulnerabilities can permanently allowing type 11 incur? I suppose the stateful aspect of the firewall will have this covered but I was just wondering anyway.
Thanx again. It was very helpful.:)/=\(:
Great site, helped loads setting up the 205.
I am having a major problem setting up Remote Desktop, I have set up a firewall and a nat rule to open and forward 3389 to my pc using your generic single port rule. grc reports port open but if I use microsofts portqryui tool it reports that 3389 is not listening, if I try remote desktop on my internal network it works fine, it is only when I try to connect using the IP Address given to the 205 by BT.
I have already setup 6881 and webserver without a problem, it's beginning to drive me mental!
Any help would be appreciated
Thank you
James
Hi Cor.
Tanks m8 i uploaded my backup cfg and all is working again.
Was trying to avoid doing so as i had not backed up resentley
and have got to spend a bit of time typing now,lol i should know better.
I still cant see what the problem was? but Telnet is back to normal,and the rad.bat doing its job again.
Remember People :Backup your cfg's when changes have been made and are working! Saves hours of typing. If only i had.
Tanks again Cor,and all.Regards : Joker
Cor - Thanks. Can I beg a further indulgence? Wanna make sure I can still get to the 205 - the manual (pg 30) helpfully says "Configure ..... ports to be different from the standard". A scan of the manual didn't help in working out how. Any chance of a sample command to change say the Telnet from say 20 to 47.
Promise once working I'll mail you the cfg file... Thanks :)
Cor, your page is full of awesome advice that i'd never have known, thanks for that.
Unfortunately things still arent working out for me.
I am plugged into the ethernet connection of my Voyager 205, and straight off the bat there is no problem with my connection. However, when i try to open the ports to play Counter Strike, my problems begin. At first it works fine, and the servers show up just fine. Then, when i exit out of CS, i find that my internet connection is now down. Upon restart of my PC, still the same, until i delete the port options. This happens whether or not i use a static IP or allow it to be picked up manually (it always picks it up as the same IP anyway).
Now here is the part at which you get mad. Im sharing my connection direct from the 205, meaning the other computer is in the USB. A crime in itself, i know, but unavoidable as my dad insists both computers must be connected. Could this be the cause of my problem? Does it matter if one computer is on a static IP and one is dynamic?
Hope you can shed some light on any of this, as for now i am Counter-Strike-less.
Cheers Cor,
Marc.
Kellfire what you need to do is:
1- steal the USB cable(and any other psare USB cables) and hide them from your dad.
2- connectionless, tell your dad that squirells ate his USB cable(and any other USB cables)
3- get online on your connection, go Here and buy a switch(well doesn't have to be that one, but that's the one i use and it's a reasonable price)
4- Buy a more ethernet cables, and connect the router and both peecee's to the switch, configure the same way you did with your computer, and away you go, two computers both conencted using ethernet :)
5- (optional) bring back out the hidden USB cables, and make stuff out of em, feed them to squirells, save them incase your webcam breaks :P
good luck :)
Bael
Thanks thewiltog, noted! I'll probably get this into the troubleshooting page at some time.
hipokondriak, I see what you mean, aye, though I've never heard of Netpeer (at least not a netpeer that does these things) but it's "detectable" by a few means. You DO NOT want it showing up in your network, this would mean some UPnP action was taking place, and I always recommend folk disable the UPnP services in Windows XP. Life is simpler and safer that way.
If it's any consolation, I've never heard the woman's voice, either.
Hi again me! The security implications are slight at most. There have been occasional traceroute vulnerabilities in the past, but nothing too serious. Then again, who knows what tomorrow may bring? I generally onle enable traceroute temporarily, when I need it.
James, I suspect the router isn't the issue.
Let's see, firstly, you are attempting this RDC connexion from somewhere outside your own network, yes? At s friends house or something. (please do consider setting up a dyndns.org or tzo.com address for this stuff, you don't want to be messing with raw IP's) Using the raw IP from insid eyour own LAN will get you the router box itself. That's not waht you want.
If you really are attempting to access from outside your LAN, it's possible that a local firewall is denying this access (though it may happily accept these same connexions from the "local" network) disable ALL firewalls (And if it's Norton, just ininstall that crap! especially Nortons' "Norton Antivirus 2005's Internet Worm Protection" which dumbly acts exactly like a firewall) and try again. keep us posted!
Joker, I was getting religious about backup elsewhere on site recently, but yes, you have it in a nut-shell; if a setup works, BACK IT UP!. yup.
The problem itself, who knows? I remember a similar thing when I first got the router, and I'm fairly sure it's got somethign to do with multiple telnet session overloading it's wee memory, but while this is a grey area, I know that a full reboot fixes it, and provides the quickest route to a fully working setup. Good enough for me!
Phlebus, it's a simple enough telnet command..though note you can only use ports in the 61000-62000 range for the built-in servers. I've no idea why!
Looking forward to seeing the config!
Thanks Bael, good advise! The crazy thing is, although the USB is useless, it takes priority over ethernet whn both are plugged in. *yikes*.
have fun!
;o)
ps.. http://ampsig.com
Cor, thank you for the reply.
After I sent the message I tried again, deleting and setting the 205's rules again, I used a proxy to attempt to connect which worked with the website but not the rdc, I have just tried from work and the rdc works!.
I must have typed something wrong the first time around, too eager!
I dont use any other firewall than the 205's.
I guess the XBOX is next!
Cheers
James
I'm currently writing a fully flegded config tool that will allow you to create and telnet upload rules to you router.
as well as many of the recipes you have here (if you don't mind me using them that is)
once done it'll take alot of the headaches out of configing the router for the first time, and also amending/creating rules as many users don't know much about telnet
Let me know you thoughts on my ideas, and anything to include that may not be on the site yet
Regards
RichE
Yeah James, I guessed it was something along these lines. While it's easy enough to route web traffic through a proxy, RDC needs a direct outside >> in connexion. So it works! great stuff!
Rich, this is all good news! Anything that makes configuring the voyager easier is most welcome.
Suggestions? If you could, I'd like buttons for the "ready-made" configs, so you can just hit "p2p" and it will setup the router with the "default+p2p" config. The ability to override certain values on a permanent basis would be good (a la prefs) and one-shot config buttons for eMule, BitTorrent (non-default ports), Web Server, etc (i.e. the recipes) would be great, too! Use as many as you like! A "zipb" button (with pop-up explanation) would be a killer feature!
How much time do you have for this?
If you want to send me your source, I could collaborate with you if you like, I'd be keen to see it anyway; I'm dead new to C (I'm presuming you are using C), so it would probably be good learning for me.
Either way, keep up the good work! And send me Betas!
;o)
Bael: LoL,I like your style lol on your comments,Kellfire:
"Hide USB cables".And feed them to squirells.
I think even squirells will only eat ethernet cables lol.
Kellfire: Its true mate i had the same problem,I build about 3-4
new systems a month and at first i used usb connection on my main pc and
ethernet connection to the second pc for updates and stuff.
But as soon as you finnished downloads ao whatever,on second pc"ethernet"con' My main system "usb" connection would be lost,and "yes" a total reboot was the only way to get it back on line.
Then i found Cor "Get a switch!"said he.And i did and never
had a problem with that side of things again.
Cor:It must be a real pain for you some times useing you free time sorting out the likes of myself.
But if it wasn't for you and your members/users, I and many others
would still be thinking NAT(Was an insect)lol.
You have tought us all so much,Thanks m8
Yup we all have alotm to thank Cor For :)
when i first came here, i was also a complete noobah, and was connected by USB xD Cor showed me the error of my ways :) and i just never left lol, I'm like the helper cor never wanted :P But cor's knowledge extends alot further than the 205 :) you should explore the site, there's TONS of stuff to learn, first thing you should check is the AMPSIG page, it's a little PHP project we started recently, and it's evolved into something amazing :P cor has pretty much taught me to code in PHP too lol :) he's a great guy :P i owe him alot
Bael
Hi all,
I have been looking for a better firmware for my D-LINK DSL-502G, with more features, because D-LINK does not provide any updated images and the WEB interface of my current firmware is very incomplete when compared to that of other Viking-based routers. For instance, the latest image of Dynalink RTA100+ is the most complete I have ever seen. Here are a few of the functionalities available on the WEB interface of other Viking-based modems that are not present on my 502G's WEB interface:
- I don't have access to the NAT Translations list.
- I don't have a Firewall log.
- I can't save the configuration to a file or restore it from a file.
- I don't have buttons to access the context-sensitive on-line
Help, despite all html files being in there (I even copied them
using ftp).
- I do not have a System Log, not to mention getting it copied
to an ASCII file.
- etc, etc
So I downloaded several (more than 20) "Viking images" from different manufacturer sites on the Internet and loaded one by one to my D-LINK DSL-502G. It was a very educative process...
- All firmware images uploaded successfully.
- Most firmware images permitted LAN IP connectivity from my PC to the
modem, so I could carefully study all available features.
- A few firmware images left the modem unreacheable. I had to recover
using a parallel cable that I home-made and writing the original
firmware directly to the flash memory.
- Unfortunately, the ADSL link to my access provider never went up
under any of these "alternative" firmware images.
I've read somewhere in the Internet that all firmware images for the Viking are based on "raw" images produced and distributed by GlobespanVirata (while that company existed). I've also read that these "raw" images were regularly upgraded and new releases were issued to modem manufacturers until the end of 2003 - begining of 2004. The manufacturers used to get all resources from Globespan (raw images, manuals, compilers, etc) and were allowed to choose what they wanted to include in the firmware and what not. The manufacturers could even change the appearance of the WEB interface, display their logos, etc. (note: I am not 100% sure about this story; this is more or less what I found about the subject. Can anybody confirm or give more data?)
If the above story is true, maybe there's a possibility of tweaking with the firmware, starting from a more recent, updated/upgraded image, adjusting the ADSL parameters and constructing a better, customized image for the 502G (or whatever Viking-based modem one may have).
Here is my question: is there a forum where people discuss such topics, from which one could gather some information ?
TIA,
Roger
I've made the source code and compiled application to removed unwanted rules public so everyone can view it now
Source code and compiled app
and there's no time limit on doing the app, so what i'll do is create each module and make it available, and version up each time a module is added.
I use autoit and VB/VB.net to write most of my apps, it comprises of c#, vb, vb.net, basic etc etc.
and I'll send you the source upon finishing each module before making them public.
regards
RichE
Thanks RichE, it looks great! I just ran it, works fine! (except all the rules were already gone, a condition it handled superbly)
I hadn't come across AutoIt! So I've just installed it, looks neat! I've also just noticed that libcurl does Telnet! I've been messing with C/libcurl for uTu (ampsig uptime updater) so it may be possible to utilise libcurl's services and dispense with the DOS window altogether, not that I mind it.
Keep up the good work! I look forward to those other modules, and yes, no hurry. Can I put them up in the archives? (if yes, put together a wee document with your site's address, credits, etc, we can zip em up!)
The public archives is also where I'm about to send Roger. (man! have you beeen having some FUN! haha!). I think I have most of the manufacturer's tools for dealing with the raw images. You can make images from scripts, and visa-versa. Check them out (just download everything and mess around, you'll find the good ones)
Let us know how it goes. Maybe we could even create a super-firmware with all the best features!
for now..
;o)
ps.. thanx for the flowers guys! there must have been something in the stars, I got it all day in the real world too!
i've got the basic functionality and connection details in place, along with username and password security
and should have a working beta in the next few days :)
oh yea, and it'll have an installer program and unstaller as well, which i've already written, and use on my other apps
ooo looks pretty :) can't wait to try it
Bael
i've managed to do some tests, but need someone else to test a few things out.
1. does it pickup your gateway/router correctly?
2. does it create a connection to your router?
3. does the force rules get removed ok?
4. does it terminate the telnet windows on close?
like i say these work on mine and have decided to keep the telnet windows as it's nice to see it going through the motions, i could have hidden it and used a controlsend command but you had no way of checking it HAD indeed carried out the command without login into the web interface.
i have also parsed the rule creation for dyndns and the dyndns service creation rule as well, and this will be displayed on the DYNDNS tab.
anyway here is the first beta of VCCT (Viking chipset config tool)
please give feedback and any bugs so i can fix them :)
Regards
RichE
hmmm i have a few bugs to point out xD
1: won't connect to router, when i click connect it, opens telnet window, and goes straight into inserting the user+pass, without entering the cmd "o 192.168.1.1" or w/e router IP is. though the app still thinks i'm conencted.
2: when i click disconnect, well i was never connected, nothing happens, maybe when disconnect is clicked the telnet window should close.
3: when i close the app, i get your copyright message, then the app automatically starts itself back up again, i then have to close again, and get your copyright message again befroe it exits.
Hope this helps ya in anyway :) this will be a great tool to have when it's done
Bael
yup, it's not passing the "telnet host" command to windows telnet, the first part is chopped off. on my system it sent "outer" instead of "telnet router".
Bacause it didn't connect, further tests would have been futile. It looks great though! When you get the bugs worked out this could become a hugely useful tool.
It shouldn't stop the user for details before it begins, though, not everyone uses dyndns. router login is okay, but it didn't ask the address, and it didn't pick it up either. on my system, I use "router" to connect to 192.166.1.1, but vcct got neither.
After I deleted the prefs file and started it up again, it presumed I'd set my prefs, and didn't ask me these questions again.
When you quit, there's an ENTER key event getting sent to explorer, so it activates whatever was selected. Bael got vcct again, but if you select something else (all my desktops are one-click, hover to select), and then quit vcct, the other thing will launch!
I'm very glad I hadn't selected "very-nasty-trojan-example.exe" which was sitting right next to it!
keep it up!
;o)
ps.. when I said to dispense with the telnet window, I meant to instead pipe the information into the gui itself. is this possible?
;o)
Thaks a lot, Cor.
I've checked all of your public archives, starting from http://corz.org/public/
I eventually reached http://corz.org/public/docs/comms/router/
Lots of interesting and helpful files... I've checked them one by one. Viking-011.exe was of special interest. I used it to transfer the factory default configuration of my D-LINK DSL-502G into the latest RTA100+ image, in the hope of making the ADSL link go up after loading the RTA100+ image into the DLINK, but it did not work.
Also liked DM602GUI_english.exe - very handy, but won't help me do what I want.
Am I missing something? Any other files that I didn't find? Specially manufacturer's tools for dealing with the raw images from Globespan?
Roger
thanks for the feedback,
this is really useful, the way it detect your router is by running a 'netstat -rn' command and stripping the information for your default gateway out, this appears not to be the best way to setup a connection to the router, and my setup a question on first run to ask your router ip instead.
be default the disconnect and frule removal buttona are disabled, and only enable on connection to the router, and yes, the disconnect should close the telnet window, and closing the app should close the telnet window by sending an exit command followed by the {enter} key, this obiviously still sends it, but must be duplicated and inturn runs a desktop shortcut as it then has focus.
I originally wanted to create a connection via telnet that was hidden and then send the commands via autoit's controlsend, but had abit of trouble getting in to work properly, so I'll take another look at it to see if I can get it working again.
I now have .net and will start rewriting it in .net, so this may take abit longer, but i'll get there in the end.
the feedback is very important as like i say i got most of it to work on mine, but that doesn't mean it would have worked on everyones pc, which IS what it should do.
Regards
RichE
That's it Roger, if you didn't find what you wanted there, then I don't have it (as far as I know, I'll check again if all my Viking bits and bobs are in the archive). And if you find it, gimme it so I do!
By the way, a quicker way to get to there is via the "useful links" above these very comments.
Your right RichE, feedback is hugely important, and good feedback can really make the difference when you're developing applications, I'm hopeful that many of the visitors here will be glad to give you plenty of it!
In fact, I think there should be a special place just for more technical discussions, firmware hacking, scripting, these sorts of things, and so I've setup a page just for that.
viking.voyager.advanced.php
see ye there!
;o)
Hi, hope you can help me, got a pc and laptop connected through network switch to 205 router both on on ethernet as you advise. My problem is the router locks up sometimes fairly quickly sometimes after about 5/6 hours. Has to be switched of and on again at the power switch. If I disconect the laptop and use only the pc it never locks up. I have assigned static ips, disabled xp firewall on both machines ( On the network properties icons in control panel, as I cannot find any ref to firewalls in the services.msc list of services.) then onto the default router, set ip filter to medium, disabled dhcp, loaded the 2 stealth rules ( didn't erase any of the rules alredy on the router ), created port/nat rules for limewire and guild wars ( game) on the pc, added the timeout/ stay alive tweaks etc, didn't create any rules for the laptop( used for basic surfing and email only). All works fine but still locks up, even when limewire/ games etc are not running. I have checked my upload/ download for limewire, but cannot acess any options to configure guild wars. But both work fine.Have tried switching xp firewall back on pc and opening ports for limewire and game but that makes no difference. There is steam ( some kind of game server) on the pc ( my daughters machine)but this has not been running so I havn,t created any rules for it.
PS. when I created rules for ports/nat via telnet I only pressed enter after each rule it then said done. Should I have typed commit?
Has anyone any Ideas? Have I missed something? being a complete novice on routers and internet protocols.
Thanks in advance.
you should always type 'commit' as matter of course after any rule submission.
Thanks Riche,
Started over again last night, obviously after reboot wiped out my stealth rules, my port/nat rules however were still there don't know about my tweak rules as I don't know how to check them. So I created 2 stealth rules and commit after all rules, modifyed the tweak rules again exactly as advised commit after each one. Then went into web interface and deleted all rules between stealth rules apart from port/nat I just put in. Saved changes. Did not reboot the router as I expect it would erase my rules again and replace them with the default ones. Been running over night ( daughter uses her pc through most of night. Been running for 12 hours now without locking up GREAT!! hope this has cured it. PS both machines have been connected all the time. Thanks to everyone on this site. Will let you know of my progress.
PS. Also have taken lid off 205 and am standing unit ontop of several layers of cooking foil to dispurse heat just in case.
Corz,
Sorry for the slow reply to the request for the no-nat setup file as promised ages ago, this was the one for running the modem as a passthough modem so that the firewall could pick up a public IP address.
I have the file for you, you just need to tell me where to send it.
regards
Will Lennard
Heat probs - think ive cured mine with a 60 mm fan blowing on to board - remove feet from case, remove screws and top lifts off - heat probs due to poor ventilation - mine runs ok with fan blowing on board - next step get it to work in case - visions of 50 mm hole in case top
geoff, I suspect simply deleting the built-in rules made the world of difference. And yes, always commit after every set of working changes. Only then will they survive a router reboot.
The heat thing seems to vary a great deal from unit to unit, with some being highly susceptible to even small temparature rises. There's probably no need to go to the extremes of hohoho, but then again, if it works for you, go for it! I came across a tiny fan inside an old BT modem the other day, about an inch square and very powerful. I'm thinking about perhaps installing that into the 205.
No worries WILL, I've been up to my eyes anyway, so the information probably wouldn't have made it into any significant place yet anyway. Where to send? My email address is on every single page here at corz.org (usually in my smiley), and also right
for now..
;o)
Hi there Corz, Firstly thanks for the great site..!! was so pissed with my sagem usb tripe that i got a voyager 205 off eBay as a result of this great site. :) Just got it to day and had a few issues with it so if there are any other n00bs then this might be of use. If you got a BT voyager 205 pack and have a contract with an other isp then you might have problems
getting your ISP's account setting put it (i did). If you log into the modem via the web browser BEFORE you conect the the modem to the phone line then the BT login page appears and you can enter your own ISPs details and save it. Hope this helps someone, I saw it on another site and have not seen it here.
Once again thanks for the great site ..
Robbie
routers been running without any lock ups, but noticed tonight my daughters pc was running on the lan local connection. I checked the network folder and the internet conection was disabled. she could still access the internet but downloading was like using dial up. Although she could connect to the online game and it ran ok. When I created the stealth port nat rules, I set dchp to none then deleted a rule in the dchp server section ( there was only one for the dchp pool ) Was this the problem? do I need to create a nat rule to open a port for normal internet access for the pc ( laptop running fine ) or do I make the router a dchp server again and add the pool which was 192.168.13 to 192.168.255 or something like that. Puzzled!!
Any advice?
Thanks
hi. i no this is very off topic. but i'm out of ideas so i thought i'd ask the excelent wealth of people in this community if they had any ideas. basicly i'm having a problem with my e mail whenever i try to check it i get a log on window come up asking for user name and pwd of my pop3 server. first outlook express should remember it automaticly. secondly when i put the information in the box just keeps coming up. if i try to avoid entering the details by pressing the escape key on the box an error comes up. this seems to be a system wide problem as the same thing also happens in microsoft outlook. i haven't changed any port settings or account details i just shut down yesterday normally and got the problem today. i also haven't closed any ports or changed my routers settings. deleting the account and recreating it doesn't seem to help. so any idea wood be helpful because i'm stuck. i can't do a system restore either because i disabled it.
Good advice Robbie, this thing connects (or attempts to connect) to BT the instant it detects a phone line, so it's definitely smart to setup another ISP before this begins! I'll drop a line somewhere along these lines. done.
geoff, the best advice I can give, I already have, so my best advice would be read these few pages again, slowly, twice. In short, no, you only need to create rules for incoming traffic, everything else will just work. DHCP off is good. Give all peecee's static IP's. You will get it all working.
alex, try creating a new "identity". I don't use microsoft internet clients, so I'm not 100% certain, but I know all this data is tied to the identity. Does it work okay for other users on the system? (which implies, if you don't have other users on the system, create one!)
I think I'm dumb.
(singing Nirvana out loud)
;o)
This may sound stupid but do I still have the intrusion protection on as well as the stealth rules.?
Intrusion protection is totally optional geoff.
intrusion protection blocks IP's which send traffic the voyager considers to be an "attack", for a specific length of time. this is generally a good idea. however, some valid servers, for instance game servers, can send veritable storms of packets that the intrusion detection mechanism will consider it an "attack", and therefore, block the IP, not good.
I don't use it. with decent stealth rules in place (especially the "perfect" xbox stealth) there's no real need for extra attack protection.
;o)
Thanks cor, will turn it off.
cor could you tell me how I open port 6112 for tcp and udp,
This is the rule I did for tcp pressed commit ok.
firewall:
create ipf rule entry ruleid 6112 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq tcp destport eq num 6112 seclevel high medium low
nat:
create nat rule entry ruleid 6112 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.6 lcladdrto 192.168.1.6 destportfrom num 6112 destportto num 6112
Them I created this
firewall:
create ipf rule entry ruleid 6112 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq udp destport eq num 6112 seclevel high medium low
Commit
but it said invalid, rule already exists.
PS. the game my daughter is playing Guild Wars says you need tcp and udp ports open.
sorry cor just read my last comment.
Should I have put
firewall:
create ipf rule entry ruleid 6113 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq udp destport eq num 6112 seclevel high medium low
Commit
would that work? I take it you cannot have 2 rules both called 6112
Sorry for being a pain!!
Thanks.
Exactly Geoff, here's what you need
firewall:
create ipf rule entry ruleid 6113 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq udp destport eq num 6112 seclevel high medium low
nat:
Bael
hi. i tried altering the identity as suggested still can't get access.
I hope this isn't too obvious a question - I'm completely new to this & associated terminology, and so may have read the answer without realising what I'd read... this seems the most informed place to ask!
Anyway, I have the 205, and am trying to distribute the connection to a 5 computer LAN via a Linsys BEFSR81 wired router.
I tried plugging the lead from the 205 router into the WAN port of the Linksys, and running the pc cables to the router, setting everything to "auto" for IPs, and nothing happened.
the Linksys lights up to say it's linked to all relevant hardware, the 205 lights up, but the computers can't access the 'net. I've tried assigning specific IPs, re-assigning the Linksys with 192.168.1.3, etc, but am not confident going much further! I'm sure there's something somewhere I can toggle to allow me to "piggyback" the linksys router onto the 205, but I'm not sure what.
Been playing around with a 205 on v1.6; contains an FTP server and if you access it and go into the home folder there is a file "commitedcfg.cfg" which appears to run whenever the unit starts - I tried editing mine locally and then copying it back which caused an instant restart and the changes made in the config script were applied; suggest that "delete ipf rule ..." etc could be added to this file to erase unwanted built in rules before creating own rules for permanent custom config.
No gurantees though!
Thanks Bael, my router is still locking up though, back to square one.
Thanx Martin. That's just what I was about to ask. It's really boring deleting the rules and creating them again each and every time the router goes belly up. Which happens very often I might add.
Does anyone know why the router goes belly-up almost every time you end a VoIP conversation with the Yahoo communicator?
Has anyone else tried to permanently alter the startup with success?
Cor. Does the order of ipf rules make a difference? What would the effect of reversing your proposed stealth rules be?
I know you said that no usb help. but i have the 205 networked on two pc`s
the one upstairs is connected via 20 meter cat 5 cable "which i made" and this one connected via usb ,the problem i have is i use p2p "DC++" when i search for anything then the connection starts to drop and dissconects ,i do know that it is the router to blame coz this dont happen on my old voyager 105 ,i think its the number of packets recevied from search results ,small results no probs, but long search results does it if over 100 results.
also will a switch let me connect both pcs to the router using lan.
still having problems with router lockup, so am leaving telnet window open, just had a message saying
status alarm: DSL interface up
anyone know what it means?
Router didn't lock up but couldn't load any web pages for a minute or so.
i have a bt voyager 205 router. tried everything here and on www.portforwarding.com for bittornado but i have had no luck on opening my ports. is there any way someone can do it for me. ie hacking my comp and doin it without disturbing anythin else. thanx everyone!
Hi Kev, Read through the pages a few times on this site, It tells you everything about opening ports for p2p and how to set up a network switch to attach your pc's with ethernet cables.
If you read my comments you'll see I havn't got the expertees to advise you, But for now try disconnecting the cat cable of the router and see if your p2p works. My 205 locks up due to having both cat cables attached, If I only have one machine on It works perfect for as long as its connected.
PS. Theres loads of problems with 205 this is the only site with any kind of help. ( I've been trying for the last 6-8 months. )
ports are forwarded to 192.168.1.40 "static ip of the usb" and tcp and udp ports 9111 ,the same thing happens on lan too ,windows firewall is off ,ive tried every thing.
KEV
Not sure about D++ but I think it can use any port but the default port for tcp and udp is 1412, have you tried it? make sure your upload is below 25kbs .
KEV
Not sure about D++ but I think it can use any port but the default port for tcp and udp is 1412, have you tried it? make sure your upload is below 25kbs .
no its not below 25, yes default port for DC++ is 1412 tried that, the reason for me having it at port 9111 is that its out side the range of p2p ports so u isp doesnt know thats it is a p2p prog using that port, supposed to stop isp`s choking p2p.
DC++ seems stable thanks to this site ,ive dissabled the intrusion protection in settings but its still losing connection after searchers ,i get unknown address and with web its yahoo cannot be found ,must be something to do with packets,
or is it this
Sat Jul 16 20:29:50 2005 : WARNING : ATM VC Congested : Interface - aal5-0, PortId=7, Vpi=0, Vci=38
Sat Jul 16 20:27:41 2005 : WARNING : ATM VC Congested : Interface - aal5-0, PortId=7, Vpi=0, Vci=38
ive also set nat up on rule id 1 and 2 ,like this
Rule ID: 1
Rule Flavor: Virtual Server
IF Name: ALL
Protocol: TCP
Local Address From: 192.168.1.40
Local Address To: 192.168.1.40
Global Address From: 0.0.0.0
Global Address To: 0.0.0.0
Destination Port From: 9111
Destination Port To: 9111
Local Port: 9111
same for udp on rule 2, is this correct??
Kev
have you same problem as me. On my machine local port are set to 0
This wont stop you being kicked off though.
COR
I Have the same problem as kev, my aa15-0 interface is getting congested, so my high level ppp-0 interface is down.
Is it possible to change vpi vci settings? whats the best way round it, if any. ( using x fire with upload of 10kbs and msn messanger 7 on one pc and browsing on the other pc last time of lockup )
Chris, load all the comments and search for "zipb". I'll get a section up about it soon, or someone else might like to write one!
Martin Robins, thanks for the tip, but if you read this area, you'll see we've been doing this for some time, check out the useful links section (above these comments) for a heap of "ready-made" scripts!
me, see previous paragraph, and yes, the order of the rules is significant, they are processed iin numerical order, and when a match is found, no further rules are processed.
Kev, yes, a switch will allow multiple computers to access the net via the 205. Until you get a switch, apply the tweaks listed here, wich will help some.
lttlbrit9, try one of my ready-made configs.
Kev & Geoff, the congestion is normal, we all get it, it means nothing, and won't prevent you getting top speeds most of the time. I have completely lost track of both your problems, and I recommend you install one of the default setups and work from there.
hungover..
;o)
cor
my problem is 205 is constantly locking up, every lock up it says atm vc congested and I have to reboot the 205. (and remove the extra rules )Have used the exact settings you advise but it still locks up. Is there no way of increasing the size of the atm vc? Ps I have no problem with ports or speed, just lock ups.
cor
you've got at least 2 pc's running off your 205 hav't you?
Are you saying that you get congested and also have to reboot yours regularly?
Do I continually get VC congested messages? Yes. We all do. (but most of us aren't in the telnet session to see them)
Do I have to regularly reboot my router? No. almost never. (only after dubious manouevers, and router tests, otherwise it stays up for weeks)
The old 205 firmware used to go belly-up when you ended a BT Communicator call, but they fixed that with 1.6. In truth I rarely use the service these days, the voice quality was not acceptible to me, and it didn't improve, either.
The atm isn't under our control, and as far as I know there's no way to improve performance other than move to a quieter neighbourhood. BT tend to stuff subscribers to capacity and expect the VC to just handle it.
If you have upgraded the firmware, and it's still locking up, contact BT for a new router.
;o)
thanks cor,
i will try that and let u know how i get on
No joy , after researching this problem of losing connection after a search ,i now know the answer to the problem which is the voyager 205 cant handle more that 512 tcp connections ,thats why am losing it , i use DC++ "p2p" am connected to 8 hubs and a total of 15425 online users.
is there away to increase this any more, i doubt it very much
but thanks for all u help guys..
what i ment to say is there away to increase the 512 tcp connections any more..
The default is 192 connexions. If you apply the tweak (above) it's 512.
That's as high as it goes.
Try reconfiguring DC++ to use less connexions.
A couple of hundred should be plenty.
;o)
thats not possible cor, i guess its a problem am gunna have to live with.
silly me, but why must i disable my firewalls on my peecees after installing the two golden rules 9and deleting all others from the 205 adsl modem?
it may be obvious 2 u, but not 2 me.
hipokondriak
Quite simple really ,Theres a fault with the bt voyager 205 intrusion protection that some times thinks a genuine connection is a attack.
It's possible Kev, but the authors of your particular client have ommited the feature, perhaps all DC clients, I don't know. Email the authors, works for me.
hipokondriak, there's no must about it, many people run local firewalls on top of the voyager's built-in firewall, but they a) know what they are doing, and b) have these local firewalls correctly configured.
It's generally a smart idea to disable ALL firewalls, period, wile you're setting up port-forwarding, etc, so that there are no "other factors" that can interfere with the results, but that's just common sense.
And no, Kev, there's no fault with the 205; simply, some programs do send out packet storms that are exactly like an "attack", and the 205 is just doing it's pre-programmed job, perfectly. Only folk dealing with sloppy game servers and badly written p2p apps should have to disable intrusion protection to get results, but in these cases it may indeed help.
;o)
i use zDC++ ive been using it for 18 months now and there no option to do what u sugest even with other dc++ clones, the fault bit about the 205 is
what bt them selfs have said ,i was just quoting what bt have said and is
also on some forum somewhare,
anyways thanks for all u help.
this maybe my last post for a while..
Thanks Cor
Have ordered another 205 will be here in 3/4 days, let you know how I get on.
just wanting some more info in the 25k max issue as i dont fully get it .. You say that with a 1-2mb line you should cap your uploads to 25k. I want to run a KDX server and expect that with a 2mb line i should have way more bandwidth than the 25k for uplaods. I have the voyager 205 runnning on ethernet with your custom p2p config file. I seem to be lucky in that my router has not been running very hot and i have had no connection probs apart from the isp capping my p2p ports.
i was hoping to devote 75-100k to the server.. has anyone got any tips or advice on this.. if your running a kdx server then please let me know :)
once again.. loads of respect to you guy's for the grat site.
Kind Regards, Robbie
hey! no hard feeling Kev, you may well have better data than me, but I've never heard of such a thing. I have heard BT staff tell porkies many times, though. I'm serious aboiut the DC, write the author! I get all my favourite apps ship-shape this way!
geoff, send me your old router in a Jiffy-bag!
see my smiley in the toolbar for address details.
Robbie, there recommendations are only for BT/Yahoo users, we have 2MB downstream but only 288kb/s upstream. so capping at 25k gives us a few kb/s headroom to play with for other stuff, most importantly, those precious "ACK" packets. As for download, it's 240Kb/s all the way baby!
You say your ISP caps your p2p ports, so you're not with BT, then, they wouldn't dare. So, whatever package you are on, whatever the upload speed is, cap to around 80-85% of THAT. You don't mention which ISP you have, but unless you're paying silly money, the 2MB will probably only apply to download speed. syat.
Oh! I'll pass on your kind words to the other staff!
;o)
hi everybody, i have a problem i stealthed my sar110 but now i need to become pingable... i have modified some option but i am still not pingable from outside.. i've tried to do some ip filtering rules with icmp echo request as type and 8 as code but with no luck... probably i'm missing something... any idea ??? what kind of rules i have to insert to become pingable?? thanks in advance (and excuse me for my poor english but i am italian
Aye Cor,
I'm with tiscali and not happy at all!! I'm going to change to ruralinternet.co.uk soon and get their 2mb package:)Really nice guys and service.. no blocked ports and totally unlimited .. 600gb traffic a month :)
Have been looking at network switches and was wondering if you had any tips on them, i've corzoggle'd the full comments and googled but was wondering why you recommend them so much (even if you just have one pc?).
are there any differences in features(apart from the numbers of ports) or quality... :)
Regards, Robbie
hey! h8er (weird nickname!) the rule you need is on the stealth page (ICMP rule). If you were called "lover" I'd have probably copied it r8 here 4 u! (read the note after the rule, too)
Robbie, there's never less than two machines using the internet here, often many more, but usually three. So a good switch is absolutely essential. Even if you only have one peecee, that's bound to be a temporary situation!
Anyways, for two or more peecee's it IS essential to get a switch. Using cross-over cables is okay for an afternoon's temporary fragging, but no use whatsoever for any semi-permanent setup. I'm not even going to begin to catalogue the hassles involved. A "hub" is so-so, but does anyone make non-switching hubs anymore? Surely not!
Any switch will do, so long as it has all the main features, and these days they pretty much all have that. The landscape changes often and google is always your friend when it comes to recommending the latest and greatest model. Mine is old, smart, fast, and never fails, apart from 'old', that's what you want. Spend around £10-£20.
All the best with the new ISP!
Man! That word really does it for me..
"Unlimited". hmmm.
;o)
cor thanks for your help, but i still have the ping problem, i think you talk about this rule:
"create ipf rule entry ruleid 11 ifname public dir in transprot eq icmp icmptype eq num 11 act accept seclevel high medium low"
i have changed num 11 into 8 (because i already have a working traceroute rule), and some strange things happen, in my web interface under "stats" i can see the packets number increase when i ping myself from sites like network-tools.com but if i try a "get icmp stats" the "echo msg" number does not increase and there are no "echo reply" sent from the router.. anyway about my nick... don't be afraid i'm not a killer
ahh good news h8er, because Yoda tells us that h8 leads to... well, other things.
Try this..which should get you pingable in no time, well, a few hundred milliseconds, anyway. (let me know either way)
;o)
none taken,
router locking up when using usb
================================
one of the causes of the router locking up, its the usb port u need to go into device manager and disable the usb power management feature, where it says usb Root hub rite click that and untick where it says "allow the computer to turn off this device to save power", u need to do that on all usb root hubs,
now the router has been on over 24hours without locking up and thats a first...
emtpy String ..w00ps sorry :)
A tip for some of some of you fellow OS X users. This is in response to Corz's recommendation of firefox. One of the addons for firefox is called proxyswitch and you can use it to switch your proxies when surfing with firefox (handy). If you are looking for a hassle free way of getting good proxies can i recommend Netshade (h**p://www.raynersoftware.com/netshade/download.php)
This app does not work with firefox but does with safari. However, you can use this great app to find and check proxies which you can then copy over to proxyswitch on firefox. As well as testing the proxies Netshade gives you the ping times so you know you are using fast proxy servers...
Hope this is of use to some of you ..
PS.. this is a shareware app but you dont need to register it for the features you need to use, so basically it is a freeware app. :)
All the best, Robbie
Good tip Kev! I'll put that somewhere where it won't slide off the page (done). Thanks.
And Robbie! Cool! There are a few apps like this for windows but this is the first I've seen for OS X. Of course, it was always just a matter of time. I have quite a few mac-using friends (don't we all!), so this will be useful. Cheers.
;o)
So,does anyone know why all the lights come on on the router when you end a VoIP session with the Yahoo communicator?
Has anyone else experienced this problem?
Been on solid for 3 days now - only area dont like is modem chip area - 10mm nut cools it down.PSU area warm ,but not too bad. Time to go back in box with fan. Hopefully no longer an expensive coffee cup warmer.
On topic of ISPs - Ukonline doing line in 2m @19.99 - ok, but slow if you get initial probs. Now ok,after tech supp reboot, to be fair caught out with rush , needed more staff - seem to be getting to ball a bit quicker now.
my broadband was activated today with BT. I have been with Bt dial up for years with no probs.
I installed the 205 and everything wenrt very well. However I could not open a browser to connect. several hours later and by a process of elimination it turned out to br the new BT Broadband Help that was using up all of my resources. I have just uninstalled and avaerything is now OK.
yeah mike, the fortunate users sat on the CD before it ever got near the computer, got to here for help, and then realised they didn't need it anyway!
That's a good price hohoho, what's the limits? And do they accept PayPal, I wonder? Being able to pay my broadband on my phone bill id sooo convenient, but PayPal might be even convenienter!
And me! Apparently the 205 contains some experimental early gpt (Genuine People Personalities) code, and when conversations end it gets "upset". There's probably a less technical explanation.
;o)
Hi, I have set up a VPN Server on a WinXP Prof machine(192.168.1.3).
To test the VPN Server I have used a VPN Client on a WINXP Prof machine (192.168.1.4) on the same Network. The VPN Client succesfully connects to the VPN Server. I also have a 205 Router as the Gateway (192.168.1.1) to a Broadband connection.
The 205 is new and has its standard rule setup for Nat and Firewall. I have increased the IP Filter level to a security level of High. I have also created a NAT rule to forward port 1723 traffic to the VPN Server(192.168.1.3) and created a Firewall rule to allow incomming TCP traffic on port 1723.
My Question is, Have I done enough with the 205 to allow a VPN Client on the Internet to access my VPN Server or do I need additional rules
set up? Are additional rules required with this router to allow for the GRE protocol or does the it take care of it automatically?
Well Andy, as regulars know, I'm no VPN expert, but you say "The VPN Client succesfully connects to the VPN Server", so I'd say YES!
Really, it's a suck-it-and-see situation. Only if you run into difficulties should you need to go deeper, perhaps altering the port assignments for the built-in VPN ALG rules, or whatever. In theory it should "just work", but everyone's miliage varies.
test test test!
;o)
Hey dude(s)
I'm having serious issues with my BT Voyager 205 (BT Broadband 2000).
Whenever I use eMule or BitTorrent, it'll hog all network resources and I just can't browse the web at all anymore (even if I cap the upload speed and have currently nothing downlading).
What is the problem with this router!?
Ports are forwarded in the router (I used 25000 and 25001) and opened in oneAlarm.
Please help, I'm in despair! :-(
Orsum few pages dude, thanx! :-)
Dragonmike, read this
In fact, read the whole page! twice!
;o)
Darn! I did read that page... I must've missed it.
Thanx dude!
8-)
nah, you didn't miss it! it's new! I was up early this morning.
yer welcome mbiz, but what's lightbulbs got to do with routers?
it's gonna be one of those days..
;o)
Hey Cor, good site and i followed your advice and am using an ethernet switch to split the connection.
I have a couple of problems still though.
1. When i try to download using Soulseek, or use Azureus, it simply doesnt connect (the ports are open and report as such) and then my internet connection completely falls down until i switch those programs off.
2. When i play Counter-Strike, it often reports the ping as very low (25-50) and then when i try to connect it shoots up to the max for CS, 2000, cuts out and does the same thing to my connection as above, although in this case i generally need to restart my computer.
Any ideas whats going wrong?
Cheers
Hey Marc i have the same problems as you matey, although now i cant download anything faster then ~30kps (Im on 1MB) Its really wierd.. Whats going on?
Cheers cor. ,u new little tweak worked ,no dc++ dont lose connection after search hits over 100, ive just tested it with a common download search and it resulted in over 2000 hits and kept its connection... nice one m8
Marc seems to me like you're maxing out you TCP connections, seen as though you're already connected via ethernet, so go here, and apply all the tweaks shown
Ben as you weren't as specific as Marc with your problem(there are many causes for been D/Ced i'm going to give you the same advice, again if this doesn't fix your problem, post back, with more details ;)
Bael
Hello Cor
I see that ther are some pre cfg's for download now and there are some for multiplayer games.
I know you and your team are all very busy,but i was wondering if there is a chance that some time or other there will be one for Medal of Honer Allied Assault Spearhead/Breakthrough.I know games are not your thing.
But just thought i ask coz im involved with a clan and more and more people are useing the 205,and i spend a lot of time talking or typing people through the create ipf/nat rules.
And the bug bare of most commen prob's modify'/512 'connections ect. and as you know only to well Some people just cant and wont "ever" get to grips with Telnet and talking to there router.
Please dont think iv'e got a cheeck to ask,I just wonderd if there was a plan to do it at some point?
Great site i would of given up a long time ago if this place wasn't here. Regards Joker
hi cor
i've tried your commands (for my ping problem) but they didn't work... instead i have added a nat rule for port number 7 (echo) for local lan address 192.168.7.1 (my router lan address) and mysteriously now the ping works... but i think this thing is very insecure and i waste one of my 12 nat rules only for ping... could you confirm me that your router is pingable only with these ip filtering rules and no nat rules ??? because i suspect a router's firmware bug
thanks for your help
You are definitely pingable h8er (I just did that, 117ms). You don't need NAT for ICMP.
Strange that the rules didn't work, I don't have any ICMP rules in place, but I added that one solely to test it for you, and became instantly pingable at the first three online ping tests I could find. hmm. och well, it works! that's always the main thing.
You have 20 rules to play with, so it's not so bad.
Noted Joker. As it stands I have no plans to do this. But if someone were to mail me a list of the ports this thing needs (and any other special requirements) I'd certainly put it in my list.
Ben, Marc, there's nothing in the router, or it's setup that will affect your download speed, you simply haven't found good downloads. Head along to one of the internet's many many broadband speed test sites if you need to test your download capabilities. I can assure you they will be 200KB/s+ for a 2MB connexion.
Any other issues, see the troubleshooter! then ask!
;o)
Dear Corz and all,
Had to turn off my router today so i thought i would check it once it booted up. I went to the sheildsup website and failed the test on these ports(21, 23, 53, 80, 439, 445). I then checked the rad file which i had downloaded from here and then uploaded to the router via FTP. The rad.sh (uploaded to base folder) had disapeared also. Can you give me any pointers , i ve double checked the troubleshooting pages and am sure it is just something simple i'm missing.
Regards, Robbie
Hi Robbie. I'm not sure I understand the problem. You say the tests failed after a router reboot, that's expected. You say your uploaded file disappeared, well, that's expected too.
Just run RAD by itself (the *nix version is the best if you have a linux box on your LAN somewhere) or you could (*eew*) delete the rules manually, or perhaps try out Roger's latest vcct.., and then you will pass those tests easily.
So what's the problem?
;o)
ahh .. the rad file once commited is saved and the deleted. That should not be a problem then.
Im running OS X and unfortunatly dont have XP or nix to hand .. thinking of geting a nix box at some point though;). I downloaded the Roger's latest vcct but could not open it on OSX, guess it a window file.
If i uploaded my saved .cfg file then i should have my old settings back and there fore be able to pass the test as i did before. I guess that my problem is that i was expecting to pass the shields up test but did not and i'm not sure why my saved cfg file does not pass the test.
Is there a way to use Roger's latest vcct on OSX ,
Regards, Robbie
Robbie!!!, D00d! OS X is the finest effin *nix on the planet! Get a terminal (shell) open right now! (and click that "X" in the toolbar atop all these pages for some more juicy details)
Drop "rad" into /usr/local/bin (or somewhere else in your PATH) and then in all new terminal sessions you can just type
radany time you need to RAD those RULES!You might even want to throw together a wee script to..or something like that.
With OS X, you don't need vcct, it's all easily scriptable!
have fun!
;o)
HELP!!!! ive buggerd my router me thinks ,today ive added a few more tweaks and now i cannot connect to my fav hubs on dc++, ive tried everything from fresh install, changed to lan ,even reset router nothing works.. ,any ideas , can i get anywhere a default config file to upload to router to reset it back to factory default.?
Help ive killed it, the above msg is MOST URGENT ^^^^^^
Phew...... problem sorted
maybe you could be of help to some of the others, incase in the future someone coems with the same problem which you had, and they don't know how to fix it, perhaps you could tell us exactly what you did to fux it up, and then what you did to fix it :P
Bael
i uploaded the orginal router firmware one before v15, and added steath tweaks, and problem went away, now back to v16 with all tweaks in place but thats set me back to connection timeouts with dc++ am just gonna check ive added the timeout tweaks correct..!
Well that got me reading up on the terminal and unix and have moved my first files :) i ran the rad file that i moved to the /usr/local/file. This is what i got am i on the right track or do i have to enter my router s L/P to the rad file so it logs in properly.
I thinks i'm going to have to hit that PP button soon and upload you one of my not so hot disks. Thanks again for the help :)
hi i have a bt 205 router and cant download off my fav strong dc+++ ive tried to change ip adresss the way u said i didnt have no joy and dont know wht to do please help
I have followed the website here for hacking the bt voyager 205 adsl router to set it up to work with my ISP which is AOL. I cannot connect to my ISP. I have not used the USB port just the ethernet port to my switch and then my PC. any help in figuring this out would be very greatful. thanks... Mystic
Mystic.. You might be having the problem i had withuseing the voyager with another isp. The voyager trys to connect with BT as soon as you connect the Phone line to it. If you unplug the phoone line from the voyager and keep the ethernet connection to your computer then you can set the log and pass from the router webpage(192.168.1.1). Once you set your AOl log and pass you should be able to plug in your phone line and then the voyager will go to aol and not BT. Hope this helps you out.
Regards, Robbie
SHELL.
I can problerly help u ,try to find me on dc++ one hub am in is barry.no-ip.com i go by the nick Tangomouse am a op in that hub ,but one thing i would do is change u client ,strong dc is not widely accepted in most hubs ,the one i use is zDC++ 401d witch has multi source downloading which u get u downloads a lot quicker.... the new ver zDC++ 668z3 has a bug with segment downloading so i would advise aganst that ver.
am around all day send me a pm "private msg" if i dont answer am not here. but will get back to ya asap.
Dose any one know how to stop the vogyager 205 being a router? i want it as modem only as i have an ipcop box set up for routing and firewall. any help would be greatfull cheers
Speak to kev, shell, he's been there done that!
That's the spirit Robbie! get stuck in! Yes, edit your details into the script, use it as the basis for bigger, better scripts. Using the shell is like flying, it's all a question of the hours you put in. don't forget you can do
man commandto get help on any command at any time (check out the man page viewers available elsewhere onsite, too)Did you crack it Mystic? If you did, you'll want to make a backup of your config file sometime soon!
ben scroll back through the comments for "zipb" mode. that should do the trick. (at least, as far as I know, at this time)
l*rz..
;o)
ps.. kev, you might want to consider a dyndns.org dynamic host, that way your router can do all the DUC stuff for you automatically.
lol cor. beat u to it m8 been using no-ip for ages
did i read that rite, u do mean i use the DUC software which i do, or do u mean theres a way for the router to do it?
hi man ,im new 2 all dis , just got bt internet and use it alot fof internet gaming but noticed not all servers are available to me , b4 i had wanadoo just wandering if bt throttle back my connection on sum ports -which is why this is happening or is it the voyager 205 router creating the prob ??? its not the games servers or my computer as all i have done is changed isp
Correct! kev. I used to use no-ip, but I switched to dyndns.org because the voyager can do all the DUC stuff automatically. One less app running on your system, one less thing to think about. Check out the tricks page for more details.
CUTTER, you mean changed ISP and changed router along with it. To work properly with games you'll likely need to add some port-forwarding rules. Check out the read-made scripts in the public archive (links above these comments). It's fairly easy to add extra rules, too. See the recipes page for some good examples.
If you want to know more about what's going on, gain a better understanding, simply read these voyager pages a couple of times!
for now..
;o)
Cheers cor. no-ip is thrown away an dyns is in place and working fine.
BIG THANK YOU.
Thanks Robbie for that info. will get it tried out on the router here and let you know.
Hey Cor... havent cracked the voyager 205 router just yet, but will follow the great instructs on your page. should I leave off the stealth and nat ??
Also in the GUI of the router, At the quick start page put in user name like name@aol.com and then my password for the router.
Under adsl config I notice a part under ppp that has chap. Is this still the same email address name@aol.com or just the first part of the email address name ???. Also does anyone know how to bypass the stupid query DNS for www.bt.com under the troubleshooting?? thanks for all your help... cheers.... Mystic
Mystic here again
Hey Robbie just to let you know I have the 205 router connect to my AOL now. took 5 attempts to whip bt out of it. LOL ... thanks for the info.
Cor ... Thanks for your help here as well. I am putting the stealth on the router now from the notes and backing up the configuration. Finally kicked BT out.
This site is great... highly recommended.. AOL tech people would not give me any support for this router and yet their modem they give is the voyager 100.. how stupid is that ??... LOL
Thanks again Robbie and Cor ... will keep popping back to give support to others if I can as well as you have helped me. CHEERS!! to ya both
Mystic
Mystic..
Glad i could help you! It's a great site here.. Im learning loads here too. Corz has created a goldmine :)
All the best, Robbie
I have a 240 (similar) I want to disable NAT on the blessed thing - please help.
Shabba
Firstly i would like to say top site this is the real solution on the net to voyager 205 with all the rubbish in most of the forums!!
i've the voyager 205, although it does have it bad sides a bit of tweaking seems to work it fine.
I have a qustion. I am using ethernet between modem and pc, i dont like usb. I want to port forward to use bittorent but have been unable to do so. Is it possible to port forward with ethernet. Do i use the Nat recipes in this site and if use them how do i "unuse" them?
Just out of interest whats the maximum anyone has got on bittorent with this modem on a 2.2mbps line?
Thanks alot guys
Cor: Here's the ports for mohaa.. you said that you might
be able to do a Router.cfg for me.Hope you can m8 would be a great
help.
Monitoring Port UDP 12201 - 12201
Alt Game Port UDP 12202 - 12202
Default Server Port UDP 12203 - 12203
Alternate Port UDP 12204 - 12210
Master UDP Port UDP 12300 - 12300
I've also seen the 12299 - 12310 range mentioned, so it would
probably be best to create a single udp rule for ports 12201 - 12300..
create ipf rule entry ruleid 12201 ifname public dir in act
accept transprot eq udp destport range 12201 12300 seclevel
high medium low
create nat rule entry ruleid 12201 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.3
lcladdrto 192.168.1.3 destportfrom num 12201 destportto num 12300
Also:
modify nbsize maxipsess 512
modify nat global udptimeout 10
commit
reboot
Thanks Cor
hi. i'm trying to set up an ftp server using file zilla. how do i find out my external ip address to tell people if they wish to connect? also my service provider is bt yahoo. how do i find out if my ip address is static or dinamic?
alex, BT yahoo is dynamic ip ,which means it changes every time u router connects to the net. www.whatismyip.com will show u your ip ,but i would consider getting a free domain name from dyndns.org and use the DUC tweaks on this site to link u ip to u domain name and the people that connect to u ftp server only have to go by u domain name..
Mystic here
Hey do any of you know when the router is in stealth mode and it is denying public to look at your inside LAN. how to let other things come in like downloaded files, chat sites, patches, but keep just the public out? thanks ... Mystic
Mystic did you actually read anything on this site lol??
this entire section of cor's site is dedicated to entirely what you just asked, just look around for info on ipf and nat rules, though if by "downloaded files" you mean ones downloaded using your web explorer, you don't need any rules, same for chat sites, and by patches i'm guessing you mean game patches, and if your downloading them using your web explorer you don't need anything for that either, though if the game has a update feature built in(eg cs:s), you may need to forward the port the game uses to update.
hi. thanks for the info. i got a name as suggested from dyndns.org i also got the ip updater as suggested from there this is supposed to make sure they have my up to date address. however i still can't get my ftp working. internally from my computer when i use it i get a log on box asking for name password etc. however when i try to log in i get a message say that i couldn't log on to the server with the name and password specified. and when i try to get outside people to connect to it they don't even get that they get an ftp folder access error telling them to make sure they have permission to view the folder etc. any ideas?
Alex ,One of the good things about the 205 is that u dont need the DUC ip updating software ,as it says above in a ealyer post ,The router can do that for u without the DUC software ,checkout the tricks page of this site ,thanks to cor i now use router to update my ip.. and its one less program to worrie about ,and soon as u swicht on the router u ip gets updated..
hi. i've looked at what's on the tricks page. however i don't exactly understand those rules that are on that page. i'm not sure in which rules i'm supposed to substitute my own details or in which bits. i'm trying to use the dns awallis.mine.nu and that will obviously be my ftp address. i'm lost any help would be great thanks.
hey!
shabba. it's unlikely anything here (apart from general concept) will be applicable to the Voyager 240. Although BT use the name "Voyager" for their whole series of routers, they are each very much different beasts under the hood. If you have a manual and need help making some sense out of it however, feel free to pass that on; I could take a look.
Thanks davey. Yup, everything here applies to ethernet, so the bittorrent rules will work just fine (recipes page). In answer to your question; "regularly over 220kb/s, but usually happy to trickle away at half that." (you only have 30GB/mo to play with, remember)
For the record I currently have four downloading torrents on the linux box (combined 110kb/s + others still seeding), two WinMX downloads (around 80kb/s) and an eMule queue that scrolls into infinity (currently totalling 25-ish/kb/s) as well as the usual irc/web/mail/servers, etc, etc. So yeah, with a wee bit of tweaking, you can max out your 2MB no problem!
To remove rules, simple replace "create" with "delete" and skip the parameters, e.g..On the list Joker!
Your on the right path alex. Once you've registered your domain name with dyndns.org, setup the 205's built-in DUC something like this..
create ddns intf ifname ppp-0 srvcname dyndns username "awallis" passwd alexpass system dynamic wildcard enable
replacing awallis and alexpass with your real username and password, of course (quotes around the username, I presume dyndns.org allows spaces in the usernames, or something). That's two lines, even though it may appear split into three here in your browser.
Then you just forget about dns altogether! Like kev says, every time you power up the Voyager (or reconnect to your ISP), it will update your domain records automatically. You can keep up to three hosts current this way.
You'll need to create a couple of port-forwarding rules to allow the inbound FTP traffic. Check out the FTP server section on the recipe's page for specific details. If you have a firewall running on the local machine, you'll need to create rules there, too.
Remember, unless you've performed some messy local hosts hacking, trying to access "awallis.mine.nu" with a local FTP client will take you not to your FTP server, but to your router, and you can't login there unless you use admin/admin!
To login locally, use the LAN address; 192.168.1.whatever. If you want someone to test the setup for you from outside, just ask right here.
for now..
;o)
hi. ok i've created the ip updating rules fine and they seem to be working. however i still can't access my ftp server it won't let me log in it keeps saying couldn't log in with the user name and password specified. when creating the rules i just copied and pasted them from the ftp page making no modifications was that a bad idea? i'm not running a firewall not even the windows one. if anyone outside wants to test my settings the address should be as follows. ftp://jdx:password@awallis.mine.nu there is nothing very much in the account at the moment its just to test.
Hi firstly this is a top site!!
Hi i like playing game likes Counterstrike. If i use the Stealth commands will counterstrike still work, or do i need to open some ports?
Secondly do i have to put the modem in stealth mode to get the NAT recipes to work.?
Thanks alot for help in advance
hi. i'm noticing really weird behaviour from my router. i had to restart my router by turning the power off. when i got my router back on line i found by testing a few rules that it had forgotten all rules i had put in. so i reentered everything including info for ip updating. i checked that was working. it was. so then i decided to back my routers cfg file up. once i did that i thought i'd check to see if my rules were in that cfg file. i searched the file for the number 500000 this number features in the second router stealth rule and i couldn't find it. so i logged back in to the router with telnet and tried to create the rule again and instead of entry already exists i got an entry created message. why is this? why does my router seem to loose settings once telnet setion is closed or when it is rebooted by turning the power off? is there some kind of save command i need to enter?
Cor: Thanks for adding Mohaa.cfg to list
its realy good of you to help out.
I madec a small donation, sorry its not much m8.
Regards Joker
hi. i just did a test interestingly once i quit telnet the router now seems to remember settings. however when i back my config file up using the link provided on the main bt voyager page for my type of router all i seem to get is a file of defaults i can't find any of the custom rules there that i created for example the stealth rules or the ones updating my ip why?
alex, one word..
commit. Until you commit the rules, they won't survice a reboot, and they will not be in your exported .cfg file. Think of it like creating a new text document; it's held in your computer's RAM. iIf the power goes off, it's lost. So you "Save" it, make it permanent. That's what "commit" is to the router; it saves the new .cfg file to the router's permanent (flash) memory.note: if you ever reboot the router, you need to run "rad" afterwards to remove the built-in rules. "rad" (Router Automatic Deletions!) comes in a few flavours for different platforms, check out the archives.
As for the FTP, user/pass problems are something you can deal with in your LAN before you "go live". Ensure everything is working 100% locally before you expect it to work from outside.
Copying and pasting the rules from the recipes page is just fine, so long as your FTP server is running on a machine at 192.168.1.3, if not, alter the IP to match your own.
paul, the "stealth mode" is a little more than just stealth. In a nutshell, these two simple rules allow all outgoing communication while denying all incoming communication. The recipes assume you have already applied the two stealth rules (as well as deleted ALL the built-in rules), and although they would work fine without first applying the "stealth rules", other stuff might not. Just add them!
If your game requires no incoming connexions, it will work fine with no extra rules. If it does require inbound connexions (and many games do) then you will need to create specific port-forwarding rules to cover whatever ports it uses. The recipes page has a nice generic example you can adapt for whatever purpose. Check it out.
Thanks Joker! I'll try and get that ready for you and all the other mohaa'ers some time this weekend. Cheers!
for now..
;o)
is there a command to tell the router to commit in telnet? and do i have to press the commit button after each rule change? or can i make a load of changes then press the button once?
alex, yes its commit ,i end with commit when ive put all the tweaks in and it works fine for me . do it when u finsh m8.
Cor. one quick question, does the firewall rules apply when intrusion protection is turned off ?. i would imagine that thay would.
imagine thay would not. ,i missed that bit out. DOH...!
Hello,
Since I´m using the BT voyager 205 router I haven´t been able to get an open window in the software exceed (to connect to the UNIX machine in the university). I start exceed as usual (with the same configuration I´m used to using within the university) but I don´t get the intial screen to introduce user and password. I´ve tried to open all ports that I knew exceed is using, forwarding the info to my machine for which a set up a static IP address (192.168.1.3...hopefully this address is suitable!!).
Thanks in advance
Best Regards
it's only in telnet that "commit" works. In the web interface it's a red button called "save". yeah, once at the end is usually perfect.
kev, if you mean the Web Interface's "intrusion protection", (which is the blackist protectection, etc) then no, that makes no difference to the state of the firewall. Mine is disabled. If, however you mean "IP Filter Configuration" (some do!) which can be "high", "medium", or "off", then yes, you must have than set to either medium or high for the rules here to work.
Carlos I guess you mean Hummingbird Exceed (which I don't know anything about). Apparently opening port 6000 (tcp) should be enough to get you working. But first.. you'll need to get the unit setup properly, delete the built-in firewall rules, etc. Grab one of the ready-made scripts from the public archives if you want to drastically reduce the time involved doing all that. (links above these comments).
Go for the default+p2p (or any of the default+something configs) and tweak one of the rules to 6000. Then you should be good to go as soon as it uploads to the router (well, after it reboots).
l8rz..
;o)
well i gotta heap praise on your site mate , took me ages to figure it out but noow i got a handy notepad saved with all the port forwarding rules i need for my programmes that i make to test which works fine thanks,and as for hosting online games - why oh why did i join bt and their no help? ntl was miles better host games no problem notably hidden and dangerous deluxe and hidden and dangerous 2 and sabre squadron, well i have a manual for ports needed to forward for had2 but haddeluxe is quite old and erm it is free to download if u aint got it get it now#!BUt i cant find out which ports required anywhere.i have yet to see if the configuring port s 11001-11005 in had2 work . hey im just glad i can at least test my programmes(online games) thu port 1200 is this an ok port to use seem to pick up some trojans once in a while gah they wont beat me, Help , please i need to know which ports to forward for haddeluxe cos i have edited new levels for it and need to try them out
i can send u the programme if u require it
heres what i have saved in notepad, yes the router keeps adding in them lines , when the router is switched off aside from the obvious few rules at start heres what else i have added_
http://192.168.1.1
1.set stealth mode
create ipf rule entry ruleid 5 dir out act accept storestate enable seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 500000 ifname public dir in act deny seclevel high medium low
delete ipf rule entry ruleid 2769
modify fwl global blistprotect disable
modify fwl global blistprotect enable
2. create firewalls
delete ipf rule entry ruleid 11007(for e.g.)
create ipf rule entry ruleid 11001 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq udp destport range 11001 11005 seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 11002 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq tcp destport range 11001 11005 seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 11003 ifname public dir out act accept transprot eq udp destport range 11001 11005 seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 11004 ifname public dir out act accept transprot eq tcp destport range 11001 11005 seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 11005 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq udp destport range 1200 1201 seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 11006 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq tcp destport range 1200 1201 seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 11007 ifname public dir out act accept transprot eq tcp destport range 1200 1201 seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 11008 ifname public dir out act accept transprot eq udp destport range 1200 1201 seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 11009 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq udp destport range 21 22 seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 11010 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq tcp destport range 21 22 seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 11011 ifname public dir out act accept transprot eq udp destport range 21 22 seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 11012 ifname public dir out act accept transprot eq tcp destport range 21 22 seclevel high medium low
3.create nat rule entrys
create nat rule entry ruleid 11000 rdr prot udp lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.3 lcladdrto 192.168.1.3 destportfrom num 11001 destportto num 11005
create nat rule entry ruleid 11001 rdr prot tcp lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.3 lcladdrto 192.168.1.3 destportfrom num 11001 destportto num 11005
create nat rule entry ruleid 11002 rdr prot udp lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.5 lcladdrto 192.168.1.5 destportfrom num 11001 destportto num 11005
create nat rule entry ruleid 11003 rdr prot tcp lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.5 lcladdrto 192.168.1.5 destportfrom num 11001 destportto num 11005
create nat rule entry ruleid 11004 rdr prot udp lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.3 lcladdrto 192.168.1.3 destportfrom num 1200 destportto num 1201
create nat rule entry ruleid 11005 rdr prot tcp lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.3 lcladdrto 192.168.1.3 destportfrom num 1200 destportto num 1201
create nat rule entry ruleid 11006 rdr prot udp lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.5 lcladdrto 192.168.1.5 destportfrom num 1200 destportto num 1201
create nat rule entry ruleid 11007 rdr prot tcp lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.5 lcladdrto 192.168.1.5 destportfrom num 1200 destportto num 1201
create nat rule entry ruleid 11008 rdr prot udp lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.3 lcladdrto 192.168.1.3 destportfrom num 21 destportto num 22
create nat rule entry ruleid 11009 rdr prot tcp lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.3 lcladdrto 192.168.1.3 destportfrom num 21 destportto num 22
create nat rule entry ruleid 11010 rdr prot udp lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.5 lcladdrto 192.168.1.5 destportfrom num 21 destportto num 22
create nat rule entry ruleid 11011 rdr prot tcp lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.5 lcladdrto 192.168.1.5 destportfrom num 21 destportto num 22
both ethernet one set as 3 and the other as 5 i guess im understanding it but hey does it work? Ill let ya know when i do. GOOd work mate. Hey u lot send this guy some dosh i would but wifey wont like it
I've been handed a 205 that was flashed by it's user and looks like it's failed. When you power it up, the USB light just flashed constantly.
It appears dead to the world. Is the emergency direct flash my only hope to save it for her?
me again..if u delete the nbuilt rules and turn off ip intrusion and blocker etc, and rely on the windows firewall or other firewall would this be ok or is it inadviseable.I gather its not as safe but dam i hate being blocked from my gaming. i tried to join a hosted game of deluxe(hidden and dangerous) and after a short time it disconnected me .
:(
I Just wanna open up the web fully again since i cant find out which ports hidden and dangerous deluxe uses so cannot set up rules
need sleeeeeeeeeep but not til i got the dam router configured
Sgt: Don't tell her then? lol.
QUESTION :
Is there any way to simply open all ports, let anything and everything in/out of the router??
Im getting tired of farting on with it, ill let norton handle the attacks if only i could open and allow everything?
Cheers
kev
shell here cant find tht zdc++ tht u have only can find the one u told me not to get.plus i cant find where u told me to find u help please thxs
sgt, start with one of the read-made scripts. Disable uPNP services on your windows machine, and work from there. The troubleshooter is your friend. Consider "zipb" mode. (get this page with all comments for more details) I'm still keen to get reports of folk with zipb working, so let us know how it goes.
Yes Pete, direct flash is probably your only hope.
Vinny, that's be zipb mode. Details a few pages back! Or just make one HUGE rule covering all ports!
I'm with Joker
(by the way, your mohaa script went up on Saturday, you spot it?)
for now..
;o)
Zipb mode? i cant find that on your site!!! arrrr this is doing me tits in,
can you gimme that huge rule, im unbareably lazy!!
I want a huge rule to allow all outgoing and all incoming :P cheers
oh my computer is on 192.168.1.4
great page! The question is : should I turmback DHCP mode after setting
static IP?
Vinny, just use the generic recipe from the recipes page, except make the port range 1-65535 ! zipb is better though, because you can bypass the units' built-in IP session limitations, at least as far as I know.
weelk, good question! There's two answers. First, NO! Leave DHCP disabled, it's better all round. And second, YES! If you like, you can assign a new range, perhaps 192.168.1.50 - 192.168.1.99 for guests or whatever. Just don't put your regular (p2p, serving, etc) machines in it!
The ready-made scripts in the public archive come with such a DHCP range already created (most of them, anyhow).
have fun!
;o)
Hi
I have tried everything, checked your troubleshooter, and just cannot get a download or upload speed above 30kbs on bit torrent.
I have set the router to stealth
I have set my computer ip to 192.168.1.9
used this address for all ports 6881-6889
I have no firewalls working.
tweaking the system changes the download rate but not significantly
What else can I do?
This site is way cool, thanks for the excellent resource :)
Has anyone successfully got two PC's to run Asheron's Call through a Voyager 205? I used to play two accounts simutaneously through a dial up modem with internet connection sharing enabled.
Now have a broadband connection and it doesnt work on either PC.
I can get it to work (and only on one PC) if I add the PC's static IP's to the DMZ.
I've spent hours trying to create nat rules for all the ports AC requires and am ready to give up
Many thanks in advance.
shell. goto www.hublist.org and search for Tangomouse and that will give u
a list of hubs that am in, come and find me. or give me a hub that u are in and i can find u but id need a nick. i remember u saying that u used strong dc ,u can try the normal dc++ and that can be found at sourceforge web site.. id be happy to help anyway i can.
cya laters. kev
ps. ive got the flu and its going free if anyone wants it.!!
Cor:
Thanks m8 for the mohaa game cfg file.Tested and works like a dream.
Once again bud thanks for your time.
Any other mohaa gamers out there downloading this file it rocks!
so put your hands in your pockets and pay the man.
Cor when ever i use the mohaa cfg on any clan members i will donate
another £5 to your site as i have just done.
A small price to pay for all your work.
Regards. Joker
corneilius, it just sounds to me like you have a quiet torrent. If you have tested your incoming connexions (try the port probe - link at top of the page - now running from my home server due to restrictions on outgoing connexions at my current host) and you are green to go, there's nothing to stop you getting fast downloads except slow uploaders.
Go jump on something really busy, maybe something from the pirate bay top 20 (so long as you own the original material, of course *ahem*), or maybe a nice Slackware torrent (see useful links section) or something like that. My own torrents have been trickling away aroud 50kb/s these last couple of days. not a problem.
Bur, you didn't say what rules you tried so I don't know what's up. I do know that Asheron's Call requires you to forward port 2001 and also the range 9000-9013 (MSN DX). Did you do all that? AC2 requires even more ports.
I don't think you'll have much luck getting two serparate peecees working with the game. The incoming connexions need to be routed to "somewhere". You might want to try the "round-robbin" effect, sending the traffic to a range of machines, but at best, that may be 50% successful. Avoid the DMZ wherever possible (generally always)
Joker, you're welcome to drop in any time! (oh boy! If everyone thought like you I could afford to EAT!) Thanks for testing the file, it's always good to get a nice solid "Yes!" for these theoretical works.
Question for gamers: so far, when creating the game configs, I have not been adding port ranges for DirectX, not being a gamer I'm presuming that only certain (Microsoft?) games use this. And then there's that Gamespy thing, which some folk need and others don't. Do I need to add these things to all the game configs? Or is it that no one's asked me to do a config for a game that requires it? is Gamespy something all games can use? or just some games? If anyone can shed some light on this whole thing, I'd be most grateful!
Kev, I have only one thing to say.. Orange juice!
get well soon m8!
;o)
Hello, when I start my PC up from cold including the Voyager 205, when I get to the desktop (XP) it reports my LAN connection is unplugged and my Ethernet light is not on. Even though the cable is plugged in and everything is switched on. If I then switch off the 205, then back on again, the little network icon near the clock searches for the LAN connection and connects and the green ethernet light comes on. I have followed all the setup/guides, including disabling DHCP and setting the IP address to 192.168.1.3 and the default gateway to 192.168.1.1 but this happens everytime I switch everything on from cold. I`m just wondering whether its anything to do with using the onboard LAN on my ASUS K8N motherboard. Any ideas ?
Jools. install the drivers for the lan again.
You don't need drivers for ethernet! It's the flu! it makes you hallucinate!
Jools, disable the two windows uPNP services, there should be no icon for your internet connexion, only the local connexion to the switch/router.
;o)
Cor:
Yes m8 as far as i know most if not all high end games use DirectX
And many have GameSpy as a defult for serching for servers.
including all Mohaa MP games.Would adding cfg's for the above make a big differance?
Regards .Joker
Thanks for replying Cor :)
I did manage to setup port forwarding for one pc so I no longer need the DMZ to play on one machine (all the info on your site saved my sanity and helped me get that done)
I still cant get two game clients running from 2 seperate PC's, from your reply it doesnt look hopefull. The 'round robbin' idea is worth a try, any quick tips on how to accomplish this?
Bur.
Cor:
Sorry forgot,most games on Windows use DirectX"and"OpenGL.
don't no if OpenGL needs port or not?
Regards."Again" .Joker
OpenGL - OpenGL is a method for rendering 3d images. GL stands for Graphics Language. OpenGL is the "open source" version of GL. id software is a huge proponent of OpenGL because it is platform-independant, unlike DirectX which is Windows-specific.
DirextX - DirectX is an application program interface developed by Microsoft, first for Windows 95, for creating and managing graphic images and multimedia effects in applications such as games and active Web pages. It includes the DirectDraw API for direct access to video memory.
Niether OpenGL nor DirectX have anything to do with your connection ;) makes no difference which the game uses, now gamespy on the otherhand you probably do need to open ports for, but surely the games came with a built in server browser, gamespy is the most annoying piece of software ever lol, so i can't see a game relying solely upon it, every game i own that can use gamespy also has a bult in server browser.
either way, to use gamespy and any ingame server browser, you first need to open the ports they use, apply the 512 tcp connections tweak, and play around with your timeou settings untill you find something that works for you :)
Max connections tweak:
Timeout settings:
These are really just personal preference, but mine are this atm for games you need them low, specially for CS:S.
adjust the numbers accordingly(seconds)
hope that helps.
Bael
Bael:
Thanks m8,I knew that DirectX-OpenGL were graphics and 3d image App's
just wasn't Clear about ports?.
And yes your correct most games useing GameSpy have ingame server browsers,And yes GameSpy "is the most annoying piece of software ever"
when run as a standalone prog'lol,Lagggggggggggggg lol,but not so bad from ingame browsers.
I have used the ready made Mohaa cfg and works great! good work people.
The telnet cmd's i used befor for "mohaa" were: modify nbsize maxipsess 512
modify nat global udptimeout 10. thay seemed to work ok.
Thanks again.
Regards .Joker
KEV
shell here got to put old modem in to find u as this 205 is crap thxs
Its the NVidia onboard NIC and I did both the suggestions including stopping the uPNP but still has the same problem. Thanks anyway guess I`ll just have to leave it switched on.
KEV
shell again put old modem on i went where u told me to find u but it saying cant find server im on strong dc now my nick name is michelle i dont know how else to get hold of u thxs
KEV
IVE found u where u told me to go but i didnt know wht to do or get hold of u shell
Shell. ive had a few pc probs tonite but sorted now ,strong dc is the client what u need to do is go to this hub barry.no-ip.com copy and paste that address into manual connect addres at the public hub list page. when connected to that hub u will find me near the top of the users list. in that hub am (op)Tangomouse rite click on my nick and select send private msg ,send me a msg and i will get back to u asap. or better still if u use msn then add me tango_mouse@hotmail.com
ive got a few things to do tomorrow "like buy a etheirnet swicht" but will be around most of the day.
u can download DC++ here. http://dcplusplus.sourceforge.net/index.php?t=2&s=1
First of all I'll just point out that I'm a complete novice to networking or anything of this nature.
Now, I've been trying pretty much most the day to set a static IP to then able me to setup port forwarding for my P2P program Shareaza to work. (Note: it worked once very slowly and found very little, and now connects to the network but finds nothing.)
I used the guides on http://www.portforward.com/btvoyager/205adsl-dhcp.htm and http://www.portforward.com/networking/static-xp-dhcp.htm to setup the static IP. Then I tried http://www.portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/BT/Voyager205/Shareaza.htm to setup the port forwarding. But still Shareaza didn't work, and this left me with no web access, so I set it back to "Obtain an IP address automatically", and restarted my PC. I was then back to normal with web access and everything else.
Then I tried your tutorials on this website, and thought I was getting somewhere. I think I did everything correctly, but I lost all web access and everything again. So I set it back to "Obtain an IP address automatically", and had to reset the router through the button on the back. (I couldn't even get the configuration interface to load through 192.168.1.1, to upload the backed up config file.) Once I restarted the PC and typed my account name and password back into the interface I now have access again and I'm at this point.
Somehow along the process I have set the USB IP to 192.168.1.2, when I type 192.168.1.1, it just directs to http://192.168.1.2/hag/pages/home.htm
I think I might have confused the router IP and computer IP as the same thing along the lines (or maybe they are?).
Because I only have one computer using the router, I assumed the NAT was not needed, and therefore carried out just the firewall CLI commands. Another thing I think I may have done wrong is not to NAT everything, as I only had one computer using the router.
Sorry for such a long and complicated post, but I'm at a lost end with this! I hope you're able to put me straight and help me please?
Thank you.
is a hub same as a switch.??? need to know asap before i buy it.
No Kev, it's not. a "switching hub" is the same as a switch, but a "hub" isn't. If it says "switching" anywhere on the box, you're probably good to go.
Thanks for the DX info Bael & Joker. I know about OpenGL type stuff, so if DX is just an M$ version of OpenGL, then it has nothing to do with ports. But isn't there some kind of "standard" DX communication protocol or something, that DX-enabled games use? Wait a minute.. (googles) THIS is what I mean. I'm presuming only the microsoft games listed on that page would need these ports enabled, yeah?
So something like mohaa, which isn't a microsoft game, and does have the built-in browser, wouldn't need any additional rules created, would it? It's no bother to add these things, I just want to be sure I'm adding the right rules for the right games.
By the way, the game configs already have timing tweaks in them, the mohaa one goes like this..which is what I'm using myself just now, works well, I even had KAD running the other day! I might tweak it yet, after looking at Bael's settings.
Jools, you don't have those pesky USB drivers installed do you? The BT software CD is best left in its packet. By the way, it's sometimes best to recreate the local network interface altogether after disabling uPNP, maybe even reboot (*gasp*). A nice Switch would probably take a lot of the headache away.
for quickness, I'll post this, and come back to Jim later!
;o)
First Jim, only Hell's leechers use Shareaza (and I'll let you in on a wee secret; many torrent trackers will purposefully block Shareaza traffic, as well as genuine users of the networks it leeches on.)
I'm not saying it's a bad application, as such, just that it has a bad reputation. Actually, scrub that, I remember it overwrote my file-associations without so much as a dialog, so it IS a bad application!
I recommend eMule for the eDonkey network, Azureus for torrents, and Limewire for Gnutella.
Anyway, whichever applications you use, you want to get your whole setup right back to basics. It's all too confused to begin diagnosis, because you are; NAT isn't specifically for "multiple machines", it's just a mechanism to convert public and private addresses. Assume nothing! I know it's hard to get your head around these concepts at first, but slowly reaidng these pages here a couple of times will definitely help with that!
Begin by uninstalling any drivers you may have installed on your computer, and any other sotware from the BT CD. Disable the two windows uPNP services (run "services.msc" to get to those). Then setup your local network connexion as described on the static IP page. Use the IP 192.168.1.3 and DO NOT enable "Obtain an IP address automatically", because that will mess things up.
Reboot your computer and ensure it's error-free. Then switch on your router and upload one of the configs from the "ready-made" folder. "default+p2p" would probably be best. You do this via FTP, full instructions are included on that page, and inside the archive.
The router will reboot, and then it will work.
If it doesn't, get back here!
Consider purchasing a switch for that true "always-on" internet feeling.
for now..
;o)
ps.. Bur, round-robbin: instead of "lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.3 lcladdrto 192.168.1.3" it would be "lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.3 lcladdrto 192.168.1.4" or whatever. I'd be interested to hear of any success using this method!
No never touched the USB drivers as I followed the settings from this page straight away. I thought it had been a good buy for £16 until I read this page and how people hate the 205 !
yeah, but that page just provides the same ports that are provided here(i could only be bother to compare 2 of the games lol, but they had exactly the same portson both sites :P so meh) lol :P so either way, your still getting all the ports open you need :P
and Jools i love the 205 lol :P it's an amazing piece of machinery once it's configured correctly, and adding rules etc just becomes 2nd nature once you've done it a few times :P
Bael
ooopps mah bad lol :P guess i should read the entire page before posting lol seems you need to open these ports for use with directX 8 and later :S 6073 + 2302-2400, though i have halo installed which is microsoft and directX and it runs fine without those ports open, and CS:S is also directX, and that runs fine without those ports :S
Bael
just got the d-link dfe-904 hub and both pcs are fine..
can you help i can not get my to pc on the net im useing a voyager 205 and windows m.e but can only get one pc to conect to the net any time i try the over one it dont seem to work and the instrution on doing this are not that good
Before I go ahead and try what you say Cor, I thought it would be worth mentioning that my ISP (PlusNet), haven't supplied me with a static IP. But am I right in thinking the IP I am setting to static is internal, the routers IP?
Thank you.
Well Jools, most of us got our 205 for free, a real bargain!
What I'm thinking about doing, Bael, is creating small "extra" scripts, like RAD is, that will add Gamespy or Directx7/8 or whatever, then folk could put in the basic game config, and add-on whatever they need, maybe use Roger's AutoIt GUI RAD code as a template, or something. But not today!
mike, Windows ME? (as in "Monumental Error") *yikes*. Well, ME is basically 98se plus some tweaks for games, and I know for certain that 98se works fine. An Amiga works fine with this router, so long as it's setup correctly!
You need to go into the properties for your LAN connection (alt-click your "network neighbours", the one you want probably looks something like "TCP/IP >> YaddaYadda NIC" in the list) and set it's IP to be in the same range as the router (192.168.1.something), subnet mask, gateway, etc, basically following the instructions on the static IP page to the letter. Because it's ME, you'll need to restart your computer afterwards.
That's right Jim, it's the IP of your computer you are making static.
The router has two IP's. One a public IP (dynamic, probably changes whenever you reconnect), the other one "private", on the LAN- isde, usually 192.168.1.1, where *we* connect to it. The NAT is what translates addresses from one side to the other. (which is why we make the computer's IP static; so the router knows exactly where to send those incoming packets) You don't change either of the router's IP's, except in very rare circumstances.
Aye Kev, a hub will do the job, just not so well, that's all, and you can get a decent switch for a tenner, anyway.
have fun!
;o)
Hi, excellent site nad my router is fine. However I get extremely slow transfer rates on msn, how can I fix this?
Create rules for the following ports, these are the ports the File transfer feature of MSN uses, i haven't tested them myself though, as i don't use msn :)
6891-6900 (TCP)
NAT:
IPF:
Obviously if you have set yourself a different static IP to 192.168.1.3, adjust the NAT rule accordingly :)
Bael
Wasn't there something recently here about MSN? About how the new version needs uPNP to work correctly, or else open a range of a zillion ports. I forget, because I don't use MSN, either.
There's a name for software like this, software that demands you compromise your system's security in order to run it. I can't think of it off-hand. Anyways, please allow me to explain "Nightmare Scenario One"...
worm: Hi! I'm a Worm!
puter: oh boy! how did you get in?
worm: oh, loads of way, but that's not your problem!
puter: huh?
worm: hey uPNP service! could you please tell the router to open a port?
puter: sure thing!
(a few uPNP commands later...)
worm: Ahh! now I can accept incoming traffic!
worm: by the way, I also contain a trojan.
puter: hey! who's that taking control of me???
worm: that's my buddy Gregor, he's got a real nasty streak!
puter: My Files! HELP! HE9t! nj489e sreiso f 94hhf .. (puter dies)
Ho-hum..
;o)
ive developed a lag problem now... unable to resovle it.
You see, a "switch" is intelligent, well, in the computing sense of the word. It knows that on such-and-such a port there is a device with the address 192.168.1.3.
When a packet of data arrives at the switch, it quickly checks the header, and then sends it off directly to the specified address. A "hub", on the other hand, just sprays the data onto the network and we all hope for the best.
Having said all that, a hub has to be really bad before it will cause noticable lag in games. But if that's the only thing you've changed, and the problem appeared at the same time, it does sound kinda likely.
So, has anything else changed?
;o)
nothing has changed .i may be able to take this back and get the switch but thats gonna cost extra £10 i got the hub for £15
SHELL. u found me but i was not there u missed me by seconds...
Kev, No offence lol....but are you a crack baby?? :P
you seriously payed £15 for a hub?? omgee lol i got a 5port switch for £8 xD tell me you didn't goto maplin's lol.....
take the hub back...say it's causing lag on your network or something....make something up...just makesure you get your money back an not a replacement lol xD
then go here and get a switch :P
Bael
ps...Yeah i did soem mroe research after i found out the msn info...yeah you need to open like 60000+ ports lol AND have UPnP enabled.....
Heres the actual info i found....i'm too lazy to edit out the un-important stuff though lol xD
You can either open all outgoing ports (default on netgear), deny incoming (by default on netgear) and enable Upnp OR
I did analyse the logs and noticed that it also requires port 7001 (UDP) to be open however if you dont open the 5004 - 65535 (UDP) range then Voice and video communications run slower however they do run OK.
Therefore to have a more secure MSN messenger with full performance you need to set the following outbound rules (if you are denying all other outbound traffic) and enable Upnp.
Open Outbound 1863 (TCP) - messages
Open Outbound 6891 - 6900(TCP) - File Transfers
Open outbound 1503 (TCP) - Whiteboard
Open outbound 5004 - 65535 (UDP) - this includes the 6901 and 7001 UDP ports voice requires
Deny everything else.
name for programs like this?? hmmm :P shite?? :)
Bael
lol.. i would go there to the site and get a switch but i dont have a credit or debit card so ive no other choice to pay over the odds..
bet u getting sick of me now on this site.. am becoming part of the fixtures and fittings lol..
Oh not him again, lol
Done next best thing, got a m8 with card to order one...
lol gj Kev :P you think you've been here a long time lol :P i came here looking for help just as you are monthes and monthes ago....an never left :P i'm cor's stalker
Bael
Hi Guys. can anyone help pls? I have set my voyager205 router up with all relevent ports open, but i find i still cant do any p2p. I have been through and checked 3 times....all i get is a smiley face telling me all is fine on the tracker....10 secs worth of high speed activity, then nothing. now my online gaming is going great, everything else is fine, but as soon as i kick in my p2p client, i cant touch any servers, and no transfers. Aaarrrrgggghhhh!!! pls help
Me there's lotsof things that can cause this....number 1 bieng connected by USB....if you are connected by USB, switch to ethernet, NOW! lol :P
the other is that your going above your max tcp connections, the default the 205 allows is 192, but you can tweak that to be 512, enter this during a telent session with your router:
if your still having trouble, then your probably using KAD on e-mule...if so, disable KAD, and happy p2p'ing :)
Bael
KEV shell here i get to u later 2nite if ur around thxs
i will be ,plz stay in the hub if am not there or dont answer u ,but i will get to u ... cya l8r..
thanks, 12 members of staff are in care, 3 in straight jakets - only kidding.
right i have read thru' most of the comments and still cant find the answere to (groan)the problem of my modem locking up and having to be restarted.
1. i have used the hacks mentioned, cors and the other 2
2. i do not have bt communicator or any bt software installed
3. i now have wee baldy spots forming on either side of my head
4. my eyes are at my knees looking thru the comments and still only
half way thru them.
what gets my knacks twisted is this problem only started about 2-3 months ago, the 205 is hard worked thats for sure like a lot of users of this site, had it since october so could this a wear and tear problem or a heat problem or both. if the problem has been solved in the other half of this MIGHTY comments section that i havent read then please accept my sincere apology.
i left putty running overnight but stupidly closed it down before i could copy the error messages -something about being unable to get an ip address ?? so it has to be a hardware problem right ?? locking up ??
or has bt (big titties) got something to do with it or is the dam thing possesed.
update - a solution to one of the problems = a freind said i should get a couple of tattooes of rabits on the 2 wee baldy spots, apparently they look like hairs from a distance ?? should i take his advice
maybe i shouldnt refer to bt as big titties, i apologise, big titties are usefull things and i shouldnt compaire them
I hated the router before this page and I hate even more after trying everything to get a high ID on emule. I know i'm going through a Netgear router but thats only used as a hub rather than using it as a firewall with nat. Bloody networking!!!!!!!!!
Anyone thinking of flashing to the rta 100 Plus firmware, consider not bothering, since it limits max half open conections and other stupid stuff (there appears to be no way to turn that feature off) so not much use if you are running bittorent etc.
However it does work fine and you get a much (and it's impossible to get across, how much), much beter web interface.
onyl u, Flash it back to the firmware u had before "thats if u got it or can download it, and it will let u"..
That's the problem it won't let me flash the BT firmware back in. I made sure to have an exported config, but that's no use if it won't accept the firmware :(
btw the ecported config file from the BT firmware won't work on the rta 100+ firmware. It resets everything to the same settings as it had when just flashed. Strange
Me, the troubleshooter page is your friend.
bt help desk, is that a USB connexion? If not, maybe some other application has been introduced into the mix, something that maxes out the router. Is your firmware up to date (ie. v1.6)? Cooling is definitely recommended. I just received a series of pics (thanks Richard!) detailing exactly how and where to fit an internal heatsink in the 205, I'll try and get that somewhere useful soon.
onlyme, into the public archive you go, to download the direct flash package!
AlmightyDutch, if you really have been through the checklist and ticked everything, I recommend trying connected directly to the router, if it works fine, you know it's the hub, if not, export your config and mail it to me.
oh man! look at the time again!
;o)
ps.. thanks for the MSN info Bael, I'll just let that slip off the page now
pps.. yeah kev, Bael is practically staff! The pay is crap, the hours are long and I'm a bastard to work with, come aboard!
ppps.. bt help desk, I agree, it's an offence to the big titties of the world! Perhaps we should run a competition for the most imaginative alternative. hmm.
pppps.. http://forum.ampsig.com
using usb tisk tisk, well, actually i used to use usb before i knew better, after i found this page near the start of the year before all the recipies where added lol, im not a religious man, but this page is my bible now im so very thankfull to you for providing this service and information.
i am using the latest firmware v1.6, i am however now more than satisfied that it is a heat problem expanding the components and thats why if freezes, i dont have the router next to a window or any kind of air con in the small room i use this in (alright cupboard, but a big cupboard i can sit in it and everything) lol.
i look foward to seeing richards description of fitting an internal heatsink (do you have a web page with these detail richard)
for those with problems with download speeds i regularly get speeds of an average 149kbs thanks to these pages i also use bittornado on port 49153 (a port in the range recomended by bittornado)with max connections 150 and connections to keep per task 100, i have a 2meg bt(bullshittalkers) connection with my upload limit set to 20kbs max. before i changed to these settings i was getting 20kbs and 30kbs if i was lucky.
so corz has put a lot of time and patience into this u also have to, learn what he has provided and use the forums for your preffered torrent software the answers are there
ive stuck an old cpu heatsink to the top and it works great ,use slicon to stick it to router after all thermal paste is slicon based... i may send a photo in one day of it..
forgot to add this to my last post.. How do i get back my internet gateway icon from network connections not that i need it ,its just somthing i would like to know..
Hey, just wanted to say a big thx to everyone who's posted to this group. Been pullin my hair out these last few dayz tryin to get my router working with Steam and Counter-Strike. Updating the server list kept crashing the router - tried changing Port Forwarding, Firewall settings etc., but nothing i did fixed it.
Finally found this page thx to a Google search and found the answer - a combination of telent commands:
modify nbsize maxipsess 512
and
modify nat global udptimeout 10
The best part is the maxipsess parameter isn't available from the IP GUI of my router - had to Telnet in, and I hadn't even heard of Telnet til I came here! Now all works beautifully and my CS ping is down from 50ish (USB modem) to 35 (router).
Thx particularly Prv. Joker!!!!
Hi,
I'm trying to connect my Linux PC to the Net using BT Voyager 205_router which is the line I'm using now. Currently I'm using my Window XP PC to access the net. Is it possible and how? Can someone help me?
Thanks
So then is there anyway of getting the bt voyager modem box chipped or something so i can get free broadband for life,i know on some other suppliers the bb box can be chipped and there on free...would love to hear about anyone whos had it done..cheers
Sorry no webpage, but here is a directory full of pictures that show what's going on.
I got a chipset cooling kit from PCworld for £3 and cut up some heatsinks from that. Previously I had cut up an old 486 hetsink, but it was a little too tall.
The small hacksaw used was from a pound shop, and I doubt it would be much use for cutting anything but aluminum.
Directory with pictures of the heatsink fitting
I used some heat conductive epoxy (arctic silver) but the thermal double sided tape in the heatsink kit would be fine if you don't have anything else.
Hope that is of some use
Hi,
I'm trying to connect my Linux PC to the Net using BT Voyager 205_router which is the line I'm using now. Currently I'm using my Window XP PC to access the net. Is it possible and how? Can someone help me?
Thanks
mark. it anit possible to get bt broadband for free.. how u gonna connect to bt servers without a dsl enabled line and if u did have a dsl line the server will refuse the connection anyway..., thay used to be away to get 56k dialup for free... not even bt engineers get broadband for free and i know that as i know a m8 who works for bt..
Nothing in live is for free....!
aroul2k:
IF you are using USB then you won't be able to. If you connect to the router via the ethernet port then it's no problem. Since you don't need any drivers for that.
Hello everyone,
I 'm trying to use ichat AV with the voyager. I have done everything on this site includin portforwarding etc...nothing works.
I was told thaht a solution might be to use the voyager as "modem only" and use another router (aiport express for me)..do you know how I can configure the voyager to make it a classic modem? (pppoe?)
thanks
Ben
ive figured how to restore the internet gateway icon in network connections ,by starting the upnp service restores the icon but u dont wanna have the upnp service running do ya...
to kev-
Was this answer for me? If it was, I don't understand what upnp is...?:(
ben, nope m8 read one of my above posts., upnp stands for "universal plug and play" aka universal plug and pray,
ok...so you don't have a solution for me?:)
I would like to let my airport base have the router part, and use the Voyager as a simple modem. is it possible?
ben, am not the one to ask m8 ,my knowlage of the 205 router is limited but my knowlage of pc`s is exelent as i build and repair them ,but i would have said no it aint because a modem is a modem and a router a router.. but dont take my word for it as am not the expert on the 205 m8.. see cor. site owner..
I'm a bit tied up just now, and routers is kinda farthest from my still-recovering brain-cells. hmm. could be "coincedence", but wasn't there a ben in here a couple of months back with the exact same issue?
anyways, your first port of call is "zipb mode". I'm still not certsin about zipb mode. Some say yay, some say nay. I have a long-unanswerted email with some rather strange reports relating to zipb, specifically if the router is power-cycled (I leave mine on 24/7), so I don't really know.
After all this time I still haven't gotten anyone's spare 205 in my mail so I haven't tested this myself..but you are welcome to! And get back to me if it works.
The airport is a fine firewall, so you don't need those features from the 205 anyways.
Thanks for that Richard, I'm glad you don't mind flashing your name around, so I added a folder to the archive for your pics and put a link in the "cool it!" section (above) and here. I might get around to a neater page some time, but this will stop those juicy pics sliding off the page in the meantime.
Thanks again!
;o)
ps.. aroul2k, get a SWITCH!
Thank you cor;
I have entered the command in telenet , it said "set done", but what is it supposed to do exactly? I can't see any difference in the settings...? apologize for my very low level in network stuff...:(
Ben
ben, try rebooting the router.
remember to "commit" in telnet before you do!
;o)
No problem at all. I just hope the info is helpfull.
There is now a new firmware upgrade on bt`s site v1.8.
http://www.voyager.bt.com/205/btbroadband/downloads/TEImageV18.exe
Cor. , ive just read all the ignorant users.txt ,WoW i can belive it, well here`s my true storey... I resently was called out to fix a pc, after i arrived and diognosed the prob, i advise the bloke that to fix the prob i would have no other choice to format is somewhat "dead" HD and install all again.. but i did say to him he was gonna lose all data and he said ok procced... 30 mins later at the saving settings part of xp install he pipes up and say`s "but am I gonna keep all my stuff that was on before..."!!!
Kev! Man! That's a common one!
Cheers Sylver123, Damn! My router uptime was SPECTACULAR, too!
Fingers crossed, eh!
;o)
and i'll let you be the guinea pig lol :P i'll wait to see how it goes for yuo before even touchin it lol :P
Bael
Upgraded to 1.8 apart from
resetting my SPECTACULAR uptime
900+ hours nothing seems to have changed
but then I,m not technical and I am
sure you'll find the differences
I await with anticipation
best
barney
I upgraded yesterday to v1.8 appled tweaks and stuff . no prob so far its been on over 24 hours "about 28 hours".. l8r guys
ok hope this doesnt sound like a stupid question but if i upgrade to 1.8 do i have to input all the tweaks again ???
tairiddell,Yes you will have to input all the tweaks again.
Hi Guys,
I can't get port 443 (https) to work. The 205 is working fine. It's allowing port 25, 80 and 22 though no problems.
I entered these commands Via the telnet interface
create ipf rule entry ruleid 443 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq num 6 destport eq num 443 seclevel high medium low
create nat rule entry ruleid 443 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.49.9 lcladdrto 192.168.49.9 destportfrom num 443 destportto num 443
I then did a backup config and verified that the rules are in the config.
The web server is working fine on port 443 for local traffic.
Any clues as to what to try next?
Tom.
name - you said just make it up - i did - so sorry if it seems flippant
update on extreme measures to cure my overheating problem - found one chip ( suspect from looking at pcb that this is modem chip) getting hot at 2mb - applied 5mm by 5cm heatsink with sticky tape and now held in place with cover.USED a 50 cm fan ( said it was extreme - well ok 205 got very very hot,possibly heading for thermal overrun) with hole in case blowing in --been running 24/7 for a few weeks now uprated s/w to 1.6 - case cold , unit runs SWEEEEET
RE bit on usb and cd - use usb for printer/scanner - anything but 205.
Cd - ideal for coffee mug as coaster.suggest upping software to 1.6-205 seems to like that a bit better
tom. am drunk... but from what i see is wrong u not re-dircting port 80 to 433 m8, but am drunk... lol
Kev,
I don't think that is the problem. I want port 80 to forward to port 80 for the normal none secure stuff. So I want to forward port 443 to 443.
I've done a bit more now.
I put the 205 in stealth mode as per rule 5 and 500000 and deleted all the rules that are there by default. That passed sheilds up. ;-)
Then I added back the port 80 with
create ipf rule entry ruleid 808 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq tcp destport eq num 80 seclevel high medium low
create nat rule entry ruleid 808 rdr prot tcp lcladdrfrom 82.69.226.33 lcladdrto 82.69.226.33 destportfrom num 80 destportto num 80
and shields up showed port 80 open. So I added more rules to open ssh (22) smtp (25) and shields up showed 22,25,80 all open. I also tested they worked from a server on the internet ouside my firewall.
So I tried adding the port 443 rules again but no Joy.
So where to look next?
FOUND THE SOLUTION.
Finger trouble. I was using the wrong IP address. everything works fine now. :-)
t.
I gotta stop overloading my browsers, that's another *great* comment down the drain!
Where was I? Oh yea, the firmware! I still haven't got around to that yet, but after you guys slamming it in without issue I'll probably do that soon.
900+ hours? Barney! Dude! That's the record! Nice one!
tairiddell, why not export your config before you upgrade the firmware, then afterwards, FTP it back in, TADA! instant tweaks. Before the FTP'in, It might be wise to grab an export of the new 1.8 clean config, just in case.
hohoho (good nick!) Heat is definitely a factor. I guess living in Scotland, and keeping the thing right under a window, as well as sitting a big fat antique paper-punch on top does it for me, cooling that is, but I'm still considering fitting this cute wee fan I pulled out of an old BT PSTN modem - with a super-dooper fast-sounding "Highspeed data pump"! which is a relative term as the unit's top-speed was around 2.4Kb/s
we'll see. Realistically, I'll probably wait until the thing starts to fail.
As for the CD, I like to keep one handy for photographing small objects on top of, it'll get scratched and become unusable. Perfect for the BT CD!
Ahh, nice one Tom! Glad I held off now!
;o)
This may be a silly question, but the fact is I couldn't find an answer to it in the manuals:
How can one create a NAT rule, whereby connections to a given range of ports on the external interface of the router, get mapped to the same range of ports on some given machine this side of the router? I know how to specify individual ports, but I don't know the syntax for ranges. If the ports I want to map are p1, p1 + 1, p1 +2, ..., pN, is it something like p1:pN? Or p1-pN?
NAT/IPF rules with example ranges :) though i have absolutely no idea what you're going on about with that p1-pN stuff xD
firewall:
nat:
both these examples would open port range 1024-2048 :)
Have Fun,
Bael
Thanks for your answer, Bael. I am using an application called palantir, for streaming video from my webcam, and it requires two consecutive open ports.
Another issue is that of the time server. The first thing is, can the router act as a time server, or only a client? I have tried to use it as a server from my PC, but it does not seem to work that way.
Second, I added another time server to the router, but I seem to be unable to add it so that both its name and IP address are present. If I use the IP address then when printing out the list of servers, the domain name for the server I added is just blank. If, on the other hand, when adding it I use its domain name, then its IP address will be listed as 0.0.0.0.
Finally, whenever I add a new time server, its status is always listed as "standby" - I do not know how to make it active.
Let me clarify that the time servers that I am trying to add are kosher ones, with domain names that resolve to specific IP addresses all right. Also, my name server is the router, and it is resolving names all right.
I'm sure this is a remarkably daft question but how exactly do I upload the new firmware upgrade? I think Ive established I do it via FTP but then Ive actually no idea how I use FTP so if anyone has enough patience a step by step explanation would be helpful.
Thanks for your answer, Bael. I am using an application called palantir, for streaming video from my webcam, and it requires two consecutive open ports.
Another issue is that of the time server. The first thing is, can the router act as a time server, or only a client? I have tried to use it as a server from my PC, but it does not seem to work that way.
Second, I added another time server to the router, but I seem to be unable to add it so that both its name and IP address are present. If I use the IP address then when printing out the list of servers, the domain name for the server I added is just blank. If, on the other hand, when adding it I use its domain name, then its IP address will be listed as 0.0.0.0.
Finally, whenever I add a new time server, its status is always listed as "standby" - I do not know how to make it active.
Let me clarify that the time servers that I am trying to add are kosher ones, with domain names that resolve to specific IP addresses all right. Also, my name server is the router, and it is resolving names all right.
hi. ok i've just got a third computer now unfortunately i don't like wireless and my third pc is in another room connected to a different router than my other 2 pcs. however when i connect my third pc in the separate room neither of my other 2 pcs can connect to the net and when i take the third pc off line they can does anyone have any idea why?
Hi there, Im really impressed with the help and must thank you for the effort you must have put into it. I'm currently using a bt voyager.
My problem is with online gaming. All seeing eye to be precise. basically it won't refresh the servers.
originally i thought this was because i hadn't forwarded to scanner port. so following your instructions and it still didn't work. then it occurs to me that it might be the router blocking so many ip's due it think its a hack or spoof attempt. so i read somewhere that i need to ad my computer IP to the DMZ. So i did that and still doesn't work.
the problem i am faced with is refreshing server lists just doesn't work. it refuses to download a server list in the first place also. let alone refresh them. when i attempt to do this it appears that my whole http lock up as my home page won't load. msn disconnect. as does irc.
i have a feeling that last bit might help you tell me the problem.
Thanks ever so much. appreciate a reply :)
regards
Joseph Morrell
joseph morrell, your most likely course of action would be to set the tcp/udp timings right down. grabbing server lists usually means LOADS of connexions, so you want the old ones to drop off as quickly as possible.
The DMZ is best avoided altogether, if possible, and it usually is. You'll want to check you've deleted the BT built-in rules from the 205, in fact, it's generally best to start with one of the ready-made scrips (see useful links) and work from there, just to be sure.
alex wallis, how is everything connected? All going through one switch, two switches? And you have a second router? How does that work? They are both connected to the phone line? Need more details.
JustMakeItUp!, the 205 can only be the client in the timeserver transaction, sadly. It is a good idea to have one local timeserver, though, and I hope router manufacturers add this in future units. I use my linux box for this. The 205's timeserver client is excellent, though, if you set it up right..
I started by deleting all the current entries before I added my own, and right now Strathclyde University timeserver is "active" with the full domain name and IP address showing. The "active" server is the first server (numerically) on the list that has been polled successfully.
As far as I know, the IP address of a particular timeserver will only show in the list once it has been successfully polled. Empty the list, put in yours first and watch. And remember, you gotta enable the timeserver client again when you're done!
There's no such thing as a daft question Chris, we all gotta start somewhere. FTP (File Transfer Protocol) is very like HTTP ("HyperText Transfer Protocol", aka. the web), except it's not visual, the files are transferred directly from a folder on the server to a folder on your client machine, or visa-versa if you're uploading.
Simply login to the 205 with a decent FTP client (I usually recommend FlashFXP on the Windows platform) and open a new connexion (F8 in FlashFXP). Enter "192.168.1.1" (no quotes) into the "Server, or URL" field (address), and your username and password into the correct fileds too (probably admin/admin unless you changed those)
After you connect, you'll see the 205's folders in the right-hand pane. Navigate into "home". On the left (your own computer) navigate to where you put the "commitedcfg.cfg" file and simply drag it over to the right-hand pane, replacing the existing commitedcfg.cfg.
The router will reboot immediately and leave your connexion hanging (nasty) but you can disconnect manually, after you've added the 205 to your FTP client's bookmarks, for next time!
for now..
;o)
there all going in to one phone line but obviously in to different sockets. as for switches i'm not exactly sure.
I have just got the bt voyager 205 modem, connecting via the ethernet cable. Yet i my internet keeps disconnecting every so often. I havent the great knowledge on all this stuff so am not sure what to do, and why it is happening. Everything seems to be connected right!
I was using the voyager 105 modem, but bt upgraded my connection to 2mb, and consequently i have been given the voyager 205.
Help?
ahhh, right! I see! well alex, that won't work! You can only have one router connected to the ISP at any one time. If you want to share your internet in different rooms, get yourself an ethernet switch or two, and connect them all up! It's that simple.
Generally, it's smart to have one switch in each room, and then connect the switches together, ultimately connected to the 205. You can put them on different subnets, but this isn't necessary, and probably isn't what you want. If you only have one ethernet switch, simply get one Very Long Cable for the puter in the other room.
Alternatively, you might want to consider a Wireless Access Point, and share everything that way, but this is more complex and introduces various security concerns, certainly doable, though. Again, the WAP would be connected to one single 205, which is your internet "gateway".
Rick, drop in one of the ready-made scripts as a starting point. There's simply too many tweaks to be applied manually on a fresh router, unless you're really keen. Then you'll have a starting point, and probably zero disconnexions.
By the way, the Voyager 105 can easily handle a 2MB downstream (it's maximum is 8MB, I think) so you don't have to use the 205 unless you really want to. You could even send it to me!
for now..
;o)
Rick. did this problem start with the upgrade ,and do u lose the dsl "its as if bt cut u off for 5 sec`s" and does it dissconnect around same time every nite and does same happen with 105... if so its same problem ive got but seems to be happening more less now days. , well after 100+ phone calls to "Big Tits" aka bt tecy guys thay state the problem is my end and its not, these bt tecy guys make me laugh with there infeara knowlage and any idiot can read a screen.. so Rick if all above is same as me the u gonna have to live with it m8... like me!
Hi - I'm using the BT/Yahoo offering with a Voyager 205 - connect to net no problem. When I try to establish VPN connection to router at work it seems to connect OK (i.e. is reported on Draytek router at work) but goes no further and I cannot talk to Windows Domain. I have this already working with dial-ups and a couple of other BT broadband connections - but none with this 205. I'm not a comms techie but a nudge in the right direction would be a great help.
Best Regards
Pete
Have a similar problem as Peter OD (above). Trying to connect by VPN to work (using W2K Pro VPN Client). This connection worked fine on my old BT modem before I moved house....but cant seem to get the 205 to work. I get as far as 'Verifying user name & password' & then get thrown off with an error message telling me that the two computers cannot agree on protocols. I have deleted all the standard IP filter rules & added the stealth rules described. I have also turned off DHCP & given my machine a static IP of 192.168.1.4 & YES I AM ON ETHERNET! I have created a rule to let traffic in on port 1723 (in the IP Filter) & also created NAT rule to forward this port to my machine & still it doesn't work. Perhaps theres something obvious I'm missing? Any suggestions would be gratefully received.
Hi John - my problem is very similar to yours but with an interesting variation (if such madness can be interesting). I get to 'Verifying user name & password' and it accepts me - if I then zip into work (I only live a few minutes away) I can see my named connection on the router - but if I try to access the network (back at home now) it tells me that the path is not recognised. Bizarre or what?
Pete
Kev, Ye, The constant disconnection occured ever since my speed upgrade (512k to 2mb). Its not every night, its all day!. Every 5mins or so, my net disconnects.
Anyway, I've been reading around on forums and asking a few people, and i think the problem is down to the connection line around the area where i live. I moved into this brand new house, and infact brand new area, late last year. As its a conservation area (the place i live), Maybe the phone exchange is too far away, resulting in a poor connection. (This is just from what ive read)
I will contact bt on monday, and stupid may it sound, but ask for a speed downgrade. Maybe to 1mb unlimited OR then refer back to my old 512k connection. Id rather have internet that is always connected than one that is "faster" but less reliable!
zipb? dam took me 3 hours to go through these comments, found the line clicked it and set bridging zipb uhuh riiight, Sure i understand uhuh er um well now everyones gone to bed Ill have to get back to you on that cor before i know if it works
shuold i stop using msn isit that bad for trojans and worms Sure i noticed how slow it has gotten when it starts i have disable upnp .is it trying to open all the ports?
B.T.= Bloody Thieves . Bum Therapists (in the fact that they talk outta their arses. wish i Had stayed with NTHell.
I got my programmes that i make ie BigBRother online to work so im happy ,would be happier when i get hiddenanddangerous(deluxe) to be able to host again(yet to try) and know if it wernt for your site i woulda cancelled my subscription with bt for ever, So why dont you approach BT and tell them that they should pay you x amount for eac person that stayed with them as a reult of your site and sack them useless lot at the bt helpdesk im sure the helpdesk on the cd was just a program anyway pretending to be staff from bt with inbuilt command recognition shit or something they were as useful as a broken champagne bottle is to Kinga . this is my programme i mentioned currently in progress http://uk.msnusers.com/MarkMcCauleysBigBruvverSite/markmccauleysbigbruvver.msnw a shameless plug but when its done you can have a copy cor free of charge
COR.. can u network 2 pcs with the 205 and aol, ive just been to do a network ,ive networked pc an laptop now he uses AOL with 105 modem "made by globespan" the pcs are sharing printer and file no problem but no internet connection ive tried installing aol soft on laptop but still wont work.. ive advised him to get a router "the 205" but will it work.
Cor:
Hi m8. Just sent you £5 for Mohaa mp game cfg that was used by another
clan member.
As promised i will continue to do so when ever i use your work.
Hope all is well Regards. Joker
Stay Cool!
I was looking throgh comments and see there are still some over heating
prob's.
I modifyed my 205 long ago by fitting a nice sized cooling fan to top
of router case. powerd from pc with a on/off switch.
Just a few holes and a bit of wireing works a dream.
If anyone wants info/pic's just leave me a post.
Regards.Joker
Thought i would say hi - and thanks for all the info. After two months of trying to get decent throughput with the 205 - i have given up: Popped to Tesco - got a Linksys wireless router for 50squid, and my downloads over things like emule have not droped below 120Kb/s since!
Maybe i had a naff router - but 5mins with the new one - and im never going back to the 205. Good luck!
Ps. Forgot to say - the reason for the switch is the constant up and down DL's & d/c's...where i would only ever get 10-20k max on a 2Mb BB connection. I was using ethernet, i had the ports forwarded, etc.....long live my new router....12h in...and not a single d/c.....normally it would in the dozens range by now!
can't ftp your configs to my bastard router !!!! i want to kill it !
ftp log is as follows. any ideas please !!
fucks
cant even add a fucking comment on this site
to delete a char in a telnet session, use ^H (Ctrl+H). That will work. That's also the reason simple backspace works in some other telnet clients - it's just a matter of a setting. ^H is one of the two (i guess) common standards for "Backspace" in terminal, and the Terminal in OS X simply uses the other one.
mat, Please no flaming or bitching comments on this site?. If you ask Corhe will help you with your problem.
Mat
Don't get stressed m8! You won't find a more willing helper than Cor just post your prob's and he will get back to you "for Shure".
No flaming m8! Please, No need on this site. "Just"
btw, i think it should be mentioned, that if there's at least ONE mistyped/complaining command in the commitedcfg.cfg, the config gets restored to the default one. So everyone should backup his current config before applying new changes to it. Also, it's easiest to apply them step-by-step when possible, for in that case, if the config doesn't work, you'll at least know which lines are most probably wrong.
btw: my router doesn't want to give me my config over HTTP, and gives me "401 Unauthorized" instead. Any ideas how to make it work? (yes, I know I can get the files over FTP.)
sorry for comment spamming... err.. :)
just wanted to say, that you can actually make the DHCP server lease static IP's. In CLI, you should use the
Btw, you can add "Ericsson HM210dp/di" and "Intracom jetSpeed 520" to the list of modems.
Also, it seems to me that DynDNS doesn't work correctly with the model I have (jetSpeed 520). ;/
This 205 router is fit to drive me totally loopy. I want to see what traffic it is sending/seeing so that I can resolve my vpn problems -SOOO I connect two laptops(XP Pro) together via a 4 port hub - great they talk to each other no probs - one has windump sniffer so I can use that shortly - but no, when I plug the 205 into the hub the pcs continue to talk but no Ethernet light on the 205 - am I going mad or something? Do I need to make up a different cable? Surely not as a normal patch lead enables it to talk directly to one of the laptops. Pass the ECT machine, I need some memory loss - beep beep. Help.
Peter
Pete. connect the 205 to the hub via ethernet to the uplink port of the hub and all other pcs connect from ports 1 to whatever..., thats how mine is settup and works fine... get a manual for the hub to see where u maybe going wrong, also try swaping ethernet cables around ,get one pc to connect at a time then move on the the next one..
yikes!
sorree, been a bit tied up, will get back to these hopefully later today.
peace!
;o)
Kev - thanks for that - you've saved my sanity - easy when you know how isn't it?? This is an old hub that I use for this purpose 'cos a switch is no good if you are sniffing the net - I'm so used to plugging switch to switch through any old port - how does the uplink port differ from the others? - I thought that the ethernet was effectively just one wire on which you can see everything, except with a switch of course which just gives you broadcasts and whatever you have initiated.
My problem with the vpn now is that I can make a connection router to router from home to work - last night I left it up for an hour - and the little status window showed 1 Meg sent and 8 Meg received - but I saw none of that - so I guess it was all protocol stuff (please can I come in/not yet etc) which suggests the next place to look is NAT - at least I can look at the packets now.
I find NAT rather like DNS - simple concepts but labyrinthine in practice - perhaps I'm just getting old - should have stuck to COBOL - thanks again.
Pete
How similar is the Voyager 2100? I've just set up Port Forwarding on my 2100 for emule and whenever emule is running my browser can't connect to the www. Stop emule and I can surf again. Any ideas?
My problem is slowly becoming clearer to me. Recap. VPN from home to work functions fine, if slow, on dialup. Upgrade to BB 2MB, does not work with V 205. BT not interested, not technical, eejits. Connection from 205 router to work router (Draytek Vigor) is fine and stays up idefinitely; but I cannot get into the W2K domain - just says "Network path not found" (machine at home is running XP Pro).
The BIG difference is that when I look at the work router I see I am receiving 'encrypted' data - when I was using dial-up it was not encrypted - ergo V205 is causing that to happen - thus reducing my question (for the moment at least) to "How do I stop the 205 from encrypting my data" - I thought the XP VPN settings took care of all those details - and I haven't changed them since I was happily dialling up.
Any help/advice gratefully received -- Pete
hi. what ports does windows messenger use for people who want to recieve files from people? i need to no because i've stealthed my router and since then i've been unable to recieve files from anyone.
I can get to all the 205's pages in advanced except for ASDL and IP Addressing and can only get to Troubleshooting after having been to advanced pages - Any suggestions?
I can get to all the 205's pages in advanced except for ASDL and IP Addressing and can only get to Troubleshooting after having been to advanced pages - Any suggestions?
I've been quiet for a while but I need help. After stupidly letting BTYahoo download their latest browser, I find that firing up with IE6 or Opera only takes me to the Voyager at http://192.168.1.1/hag/pages/home.htm and I can't seem to get out of it. All the tests and stats seem OK. Using Firefox I have no trouble and can surf as I please. Any explanation and cure please?
Further to earlier - "I can get to all the 205's pages in advanced except for ...."
I have noticed I can get to all pages if I use 192.168.1.2 although I am using ehernet network.
But when I go to address 192.168.1.1 (voyager.home) I can not get to "Troubleshooting" until after going to "advanced" and entering admin etc and then I can get to "System" ,"Security" and "IP Routing" and can also go to "quick start" or "Troubleshooting" but cannot get to "ADSL or "IP Addressing" any Idea what may be causing this behaviour?
False alarm - got rid of encryption - still doesn't work - ggrrrrr.
Pete
briefly..
sgt smiley, wtf is that?
Joker, every little helps, appreciated!
kev, 2 puters? sure, so long as he has a SWITCH.
mat, dude! coffee's great, but when you get over ten cups a day, you really need to introduce some sort of form of meditation, to counterbalance the caffeine - meditation. Then try FlashFXP. DO NOT set it to "show invisibles", the 205 doesn't like that. what you need is in the "home" folder.
RQ - thanks for the tip, and the gotcha! Yup, even the slightest syntax error and it's Default City. I really should be mentioning this somewhere prominent, it caught me out a couple of times in the beginning. thanks for the reminder. I always recommend folk backup their current config first, but I guess many don't. Thank heavens for that reset button, eh!
Cedders, probably very dissimilar, but the concepts apply to ALL routers. It sounds like you are simply saturating your upload capacity. Check out the troubleshooting page for some solutions.
Pete & John (less briefly) of VPN I know almost zero. I know that some folk have definitely got VPN working through thte 205, but I also know that there are many flavours of VPN.
Of course you will have read the relevant sections in the PDF manuals (P64 of reference manual), and on top of that you may have noticed that with the newer firmwares there is an ALG rules for VPN, specifically..and I wonder if maybe the port numbers need to be changed for your particular flavour of VPN. Or maybe you need to create a port-forwarding (or passthru) rule instead (perhaps 500, the key-exchange port).
Like I say, I'm no expert, I'm just throwing seeds of ideas into the wind, you can sort the chaff from the grain! (and then get back here with the kernels of truth!)
known gotcha: The IP of the router (192.168.1.1) exists on your works network. Either change the router's IP, or get the tech dudes at work to alter their machine at that address. (load this page with ALL comments and search (type-to-find yeah?) for "matanza", for more details and instructions)
Ted, seen the troubleshooting page? (link at the top)
grandad, long time no see! My first hunch is that the BT/Yahoo software has simply changed your homepage. Go into Control Panel >> Internet Options (General Tab) "Homepage", I usually use "http://www.google.com"
If that doesn't fix it, get back here!
for now..
;o)
Thanks - yes I have looked thru your troubleshooting page...
My 205 is working as a dhcp server - I can get to the web interface (but only some pages) so the "modify mctl access httplanaccess enable" is not applicable here... although I have tried it.
I can get to most of the advanced pages but not "ADSL" or "IP Addressing" nor from "quick Start" to "Troubleshooting" unless I first go to the Advanced pages, then I can get to "Troubleshooting" - I have tried it with browser settings - "every visit to the page" and "automatically" - (I have watched Robocop and come back but that didn't make any difference Ha Ha)
Have you any further ideas? or suggestions as to what I may try - I'm not a "techie" and are not familiar with Telnet and are scared I may screw something up.
Ps - I couldn't find Mackila's configurateur app in your Public Archives - what's the name of the file?
Thanks for your hunch; however,I had already tried various home pages but all got routed to the voyager configuration manager in IE6 or Opera as stated above. This message comes by courtesy of Firefox 1.0.6 which ignores the invisible router (as it should). In desperation I downloaded the BTYahoo software again and now it won't let me past the sign in box. BT assure me that I am already logged in! Opera 8.01 still goes to the Voyager page as above.
cor - thanks for yr reply.
I'll come back with a better answer when I've sorted my problem.
I know I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer today but I really don't understand the 'matanza' reference. Don't keep me in the dark!! - I get enough of that at work.
Pete
Ted, firstly, OPEN A TELNET SESSION! No, just do it!
As to you your web access, it still sounds like some funky JavaScript thing, maybe a "clever" firewall, which is why I recommended the troubleshooter page. Can you access the pages using the "admin selectors" above these comments?
Lastly, the configurator app is called "win32_router_configger(dm602gui).rar". there's a link to Makila's site in the Useful Links (above) too. While you're in the public archive, grab "RAD-win32-gui-version.zip" (inside the Shell Scripts folder) and watch that telnet session wizzing past you and think "if a script can do telnet, so can I!"
grandad, what did I say about BT software? Man! You've got to uninstall that stuff to even have a chance at a properly functioning system!
After that, you might want to double-check your network connexion's properties and see they match the ones on the static-IP page, and you INternet Settings control panel, too. It might also be worth checking to see if any uPNP services have been enabled I really don't know what these "branding" packs get up to these days; I had my title bar altered back in IE4 (probably the worst web browser ever written) and decided, never again!
If all this sounds a bit daunting, and your continued efforts are in vain, mail me, I could pop into your desktop over the weekend and have a quick nose around if you like - not yer pr0n though!
Pete, what I mean is, waaay back, like a thousand comments ago, someone called "matanza" detailed the whole process rather well, and if you load this very page with ALL comments (see the link at the top of the comments - and you can hover your mouse over that link for a second before you click it because really, someone's got to stop sometime and appreciate the lovely code there! hahah) and then search the (BIG) page for "matanza". You'll see what I mean.
If you use Firefox (or Camino, probably others) you can use "type to find" which enables you to locate words on the page by simply beginning to type them. If you use firefox, here's a wee something for your user.js file (hidden away insode your user profile)..because of type-to-find, I have about an extra three hours a week all to myself, just long enough to watch the full version (aka "Special Edition") of The Abyss, which KNOCK-ME-SIDEWAYS! is a whole different flick from the regular release, so there you go!
Thank-you firefox! (again)
;o)
Hi Cor - I'd love to see the full edition of The Abyss - diving is an interest of mine - I just love the bit where they fill his suit with ringer's solution - you'd have to have the cojones, that's for sure.
Thanks for the help with Matanza - really thought I was going crazy there. Not clear whether it help or not at the moment - but I can see more of what's happening.
When I fire up the VPN connection it establishes a connection between me and the work network. If I use Windows Explorer to look at My Network Places down a few levels I get to HEADQUARTERS which is the name of the Domain I am trying to join - it shows, correctly, the name of the laptop I'm using + an HP tablet that I have plugged into the hub - I just can't see any of the work computers - (about 30 of them) - if I use the windump sniffer on the Ethernet (from the PolyTech in Turin) then I see that NetBios is making requests which are not being satisfied - I have cor-Stealthed the puter - I need to open up ports 137,8,9 I think - not sure of exact syntax, but I will try from the 900 odd page CLI documentation - maybe I need something else like NAT commands??
It really seems to me that this as simple as that the machines just cannot see each others names, and thus cannot display to me on a list for me to select.
Regardless, if I can get the NetBios requests to work the the sniffer will tell me more of what I need to know.
I'd say TGIFriday except that I'll have to try to get this sorted if I can.
Thanks for your time and patience.
Pete
As I've said many times, my knowledge of VPN is almost non-existant, but I do know that opening ports 137-139 will allow NetBIOS session traffic, I also know that doing this would probably be a Very Bad Idea, unless you have some other mechanism to filter (firewall) the netBIOS traffic NOT coming from inside your VPN.
By the way, removing the stealth rules from the router still wouldn't allow this traffic inside your LAN, incoming needs to be dealt with specifically.
The "range" rule on the recipes page would sort you out, hopefully you shouldn't have to also open port 445 (SMB over TCP) too, but see how it goes.
Yes, you'll need one firewall and one NAT rule.
(which I like to think of as a "port-forwarding rule pair")
keep us posted!
;o)
ps.. YES! Order it from your local DVD store immediately! It's not just oodles of extra beautiful footage, there's a whole new plot! Marvellous stuff. And yeah! That ringer's solution is amazing stuff, I was breathing with him all the way! - with that and the ressucitation scene I was practically hyperventilating by the end of the movie!
Hi,
Thanks for the excellent site. I am just strating out trying to get my machine to work with DC++ and Azeureus. I cant even get started as when I try to access my router the login simply fails and I get unauthorised. I am using my normal login at the start of an internet session.
Regards
Bob
Once you read through the pages here Bob, you'll realise where you're going wrong! (clue: admin/admin)
;o)
Hi Cor - Is there any easy way I can make the interesting stuff like "Secret Admin Page selector" available to me now I have changed the address of the 205 to 192.168.1.90 ?
Pete
I should have said that I'm looking for the ALG stuff on the BBOM (Black Box of Madness) - Pete
BOB. If ya need help with DC++ am ya man. ive been there and done that also got the T-Shirt..
hey man
great help now you wanna do one for the DWL-G730AP? hehe also has a stubben firewall
Sure Pete, they are just basic HTML structures. so either click the "open this tool in it's own window", and save the HTML page you get to your hard drive, edit it to match your new IP, or if you have php running somewhere local, download the source and the editing will be even easier!
By the way, I don't think there's much ALG stuff in the web interface, you'll need a telnet session for that.
Sean, I recommend you mail the manufacturer, tell them "cor says he'll do a page like the one he's got for the 205 if you send him a DWL-G730AP and a thousand pounds"
l*rz..
;o)
Cor,
Thanks for that I feel a real plonker!! I had read it too. Now I have no save box so I cant keep my changes.
Kev,
Thanks for the offer mate I am really blind at the moment and all this scares the hell out of me, I just cant seem to make it work actively and passively nothing ever downloads which is why I have ended up here trying to figure out how to get a single IP and start port forwarding which I assume is my problem.
Bob
Camfrog udp, tcp forwarding on lan.
Could someone PLEASE go download the camfrog server:www.camfrog.com, install it, get it working and then tell me how the hell you did it!?!?!
I've been doing my nut with this app and still can't get a connection to it from the outside world.
Aaaaaaargh!!!
-Mike
hi. ok i'm the guy with the 2 routers in 2 rooms. i have 2 pcs connected to one router with one usually on. and a second router in another room connected to another pc. i don't like wireless because of the security issues. sveral people have told me that i can't have 2 routers connected to the same phone line i was just wondering why? i have them connected to the same line but thru different sockets. also i'm using no micro filters and i seem to get phone calls and data down the same line fine. also just thought could the stealth rules i put in place have caused a problem i have stealthed one router but not the one in the room with my third pc.
Hi Alex W
I don't know of any specific reason why not, but it does seem like a recipe for problems - you mention one yourself.
I'm assuming that the difficulty is that you don't want to put in an extra ethernet cable 'cos of decoration etc. requirements?
You could replace the phone cable if that is cosmetically easier with Cat 5 cable - and as only 4 out of the 8 wires are used for ethernet run your PC and phone off the same cable - put a nifty little double socket in and Bob's your uncle.
regards pete
bunksha, I installed it and it works fine. It wouldn't pick up my camera (a bug perhaps), but I could enter chatrooms, hear and see folk, etc (something I only ever do testing out these sorts of things for you lot! *yikes*).
Apparently you don't need incoming connexions to run the client, only the server.
That's a nice suggestion Peter, I hadn't thought of that, of course! There's a spare wire! And as it's shielded, that 50V stuff shouldn't affect the LAN at all. I'll have to try this out somewhere!
alex, most folk approach it like this..
- Build the LAN
- Connect LAN to Internet.
what you are trying to do, while theoretically possible just sounds dodgy in the extreme, and quite likely would break your TOS with BT, anyway.GET A SWITCH!
;o)
Alex. First 2 routers 2 or 2 dsl modems DONT! work with BT. & u can only have one "Cor. Will gladly take the spare 205" ask BT.... PS. Get a SWITCH and make a Cat 5 cable "NETWORK CABLE".
BOB. GO! here "barry.no-ip.com" its a DC++ hub am a OP "Operater" here u can talk to me on a one to one basis i go by the nick "Tangomouse" from there i can only try to sort out u problem. "am becoming well known for helping peeps with DC++ and PC probs" ,so give me a shout, if i dont answer ya am not there but i will return u msg.. cya l8r.
Kev,
Very many thanks I will do so as soon as I get a chance. In work at the moment and out for the day. Thanks for the support.
Bob
My brother went onto btinternet and they sent him a preconfigured bt voyager 205. I set his network up with a netgear wireless network so he did not need his 205 router. I did not have a router and I am on Tiscali. I changed the username to my tiscali username and bang I am on broadband. I carried out a speed test and noticed I was on 2MB as oppose to .5MB, I have a feeling this router is connected to BT and not to tiscali but cannot understand why it works with my tiscali username and why the fast speed.
Do you have any answers ?????
I am computer literate but by no means an expert like yourselves so be gentle.
steve.d, between you and me, I reckon we should delete your comment and pretend it never existed
By the sounds of things you are indeed connected to the BT network. If you run a traceroute tool (there's one inside the 205, in fact, "SamSpade" is another good one, there are zillions out there, even built-in to your system) anyway, if you ran a traceroute, you'd see the name of every single server on every hop between you and whoever you are tracing (google gets hammered with these things!)
I'd put money on it being "esr3.london5.broadband.bt.net" or something like that. The BT Broadband doesn't require a username/password combo to login, you see, it authenticates freom the telephone line itself.
What it looks like has happened is that your 205 is connecting straight to BT, just like it's programmed to do. BT Wholesale maybe screwed up your account or something, maybe any Tiscali customer could pull this trick, I dunno. But somehow you are bypassing all their turing machines and deadly black-ice and sailing right into the kingdom of broadband heaven. Good for you m8!
This is just my take on things, and I've been awake for 24h+ so, to quote the prophets.. "don't believe a word I say". I'd be keen to hear what any of you other guys make of this. To me it sounds like a clear-cut case of "ISP error in my favour, say nothing".
You'll likely still get billed as normal from Tiscali, because Tiscali buys their broadband from BT Wholesale like everyone else, and they'll be billing tiscali for your connexion. Could take months before anyone spots what's going on, years!
What you need to do steve, and quickly, is learn about the wonders of BitTorrent!
Have fun!
;o)
I've been trying to set up a Linksys WVC54G webcam to use the Sololink DDNS service - without a lot of success. The webcam is using a Linksys WRT54G router - but only as a wireless access point which links into my BT Voyager which acts as the router. All my PC's, the webcam and the linksys router have static IP's.
I've configured the 205 as you suggest on your main pages. The 205 has had an appropriate NAT rule added for port forwarding on port 3535 and a firewall rule (I've simply adapted your generic rules for this).
The p2p port probe shows "success" when I check the port, but the Sololink website refuses to do a great deal - at best (with Firefox) the attempted connection simply times out.
Firewall (PC Cillin) on or off makes no difference.
I'm obviously doing something really stupid (and I know that using both the Linksys as a WAP and the 205 isn't the greatest of ideas - but I can't afford to replace them at the moment) but I would welcome any suggestions about what else I can try!
i'd love to get a switch in place unfortunately that's not very practical as it would involve a hell of alot of cable because it would have to go round the walls of one room, turn right out the door, go round some more walls then right down another coridor, the wall of which has a sticking out bit on it and a radiater, then once i'd got past those bits it would go past the kitchin door, and straight til it reaches the hall, then it would need to turn left and go on to a short left hand wall which it would need to curve round to link up with another wall... and you are still reading by this point? well theres lots more. anyway as you can see from that it would be extreemly hard fitting a cable and if not both time consuming and expensive it would probably not do alot for the deckerations. the main problem is that its my brother who wants net access from his room and whenever he connects with his router it disconnects me then he gets disconnected and i reconnect and so on.
Glodgeous , I'll need more info. What sololink site? URL? Where did you get port 3535 from? Is that TCP or UDP? Is that the right port? What's wrong with DynDNS.org?
What rules are you using exactly?
;o)
ps.. alex, so get a switch in the main room, connect it to the local puters, and a WiFi WAP, and the other machines in the house can go wireless. Or did someone say that already?
Hey Cor
This is driving me nuts. Father-in-law has same router 205, now heres the prob, Theres 3 computers in the house (Never online at the same time, due to there location i suppose) As u can imagine there is 3 separate ethernet cables, an each is plugged in depending who wants to use net. now 2 comps no probs, 3rd different story, it can`t find the router, then says no default gateway, i haven`t set them static ip`s btw, so the dhcp server keeps assign invalid ip numbers? any ideas?
P.s are u aware of the 1.8 firmware upgrade? probably a stupid p.s but just in case.
Thanx mate :)
alex, what u need is net to plug which is wired network via ya elecric supply ,what happens is u plug one end into usb on pc and other into ya 240 volt plug socket.. any pc in any room can use this it uses u house hold wiring to network u pc`s... look it up.. or go wireless which maybe cheaper... nite all.
tj_mgateuk, you kinda answered your own question. Task one: give puters static IP's. Task 2: Insert one of my "ready-made" configs into your router.
Task 3. GET A SWITCH!
By the way, Good Call Kev! I completely forgot about that. Which is incredible, because fifteen miles down the road the hydro electric company are running trials broadband over the mains! (10MB each way, w00h00!) Imagine it! 10MB in every electric socket in your house, just plug in your adapter and away you go!
Yup, there's a similar system for local LAN, too, you just piggy-back the traffic on top of the mains in much a similar way as BT do with the regular phone lines.
;o)
Kev,
Looked up the DC++ site but you were not logged on. I am such a newbie that I have no idea how to message in DC++ unless another user is on line.
I am rapidly giving up with shear frustration, guess it is all just too techie for me. I set up my computer for a single IP of 192.168.1.4 and then disabled DHCP as instructed on Corz site here. There is no save box coming up so I cant save it. When I follow the instructions to begin port forwarding and I am in the web page relating to the router, I enter the admin/admin pass but no matter how often I click on the advanced menues they refuse to open, I just get a refresher of the transfer data so I can go no further. Cant understand why I am struggling with all this anyway. Other friends of mine are on BT Yahoo and simply enabled the Plug & Play tickbox in the avanced DC++ options and were in business with active links despite having DHCP still running, no single IP and no port forwarding. I am happy to send you my e-mail address if it will help. I am connecting with the ethernet cable.
Regards
Bob
Hi,
Firstly, great website - tons of cool info and advice, cheers for that!
I have a Voyager 205 ADSL modem/router connected to a small switch and providing internet access for my home LAN.
I have a couple of server programs that I cannot get to function correctly. I have been through the troubleshooting checklist you provided and, with the exception of services.msc reporting one service running called "Universal Plug and Play Device Host" - which I assume isn't that same as two services called "uPNP", everything is good. No USB connection, and no firewalls - I promise ;)
The (static) IP address of the machine running the server programs is 192.168.1.40
I made a backup of the Voyager 205's config and then removed all ipf and nat rules. Next I set the ipf security level to HIGH. Then I started a telnet session, entered my username and password, and pasted in these commands:
create ipf rule entry ruleid 5 dir out act accept storestate enable seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 500000 ifname public dir in act deny log enable seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 2222 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq udp destport eq num 2222 seclevel high medium low
create nat rule entry ruleid 2222 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.40 lcladdrto 192.168.1.40 destportfrom num 2222 destportto num 2222
create ipf rule entry ruleid 3782 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq tcp destport eq num 3782 seclevel high medium low
create nat rule entry ruleid 3782 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.40 lcladdrto 192.168.1.40 destportfrom num 3782 destportto num 3782
However, I can't get another machine on my home lan to connect to either server via the router's IP address. Using one app (port 2222) I can point a client machine to the server's own IP address (192.168.1.40) and it will connect and function exactly as intended, but as soon as I use the router's IP it just times out.
As for the other program (port 3782) the client machine just says it cannot connect to my router's IP address.
If I run the corresponding server and use you port probe, I can successfully probe port 3782 but probing port 2222 results in "connexion timed out. (probably stealthed)" this, however, is the app which IS working via a 'direct' LAN IP address!
Any ideas?
Thanks for your help.
Martin.
passing throught...
Martin, did you delete the other built-in firewall rules?
;o)
Yep, I removed all ipf and nat rules before issuing the above cammands in telnet. Should I have not done this?
Martin
Sorry for the delay in responding. I tried to send something out in a rush this morning and it obviously didn't get through.
Sololink is a DDNS server and the website I was referring to is simply the site at which I should be able to see the webcam output. The address is webcam name.personal domain name.ourlinksys.com. For example, Webcam1.JoeBloggs.ourlinksys.com.
I signed up at DynDNS.org - then I confess I was perplexed about what to do next! So I went back to trying to set up Sololink - but if you can suggest where I can get a steer on DynDNS, I'll happily take another look.
The webcam doesn't seem to mind what port it is on above 1024 - I tried this and 1029 (and others). There is no good reason for me picking port 3535.
The rules I set up were as follows:
firewall:
create ipf rule entry ruleid 3535 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq tcp destport eq num 3535 seclevel high medium low
nat:
create nat rule entry ruleid 3535 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.115 lcladdrto 192.168.1.115 destportfrom num 3535 destportto num 3535
Webcam is obviously on 192.168.1.115
The webcam can update the DDNS (so it says), but only if bridging is implemented on the 205.
I hope this is enough to give you a better idea of the mess I'm in!
Regards
Sorry - almost forgot. The webcam bumpf doesn't specify the protocol it and Sololink use. Ive assumed it was TCP, but have tried UDP as well. How do I set the rule to accept any (the default setting)?
Bob. give me a hub addres that u r in and ya nick and al find u
Hey Cor!
Thanks for info, got it sorted now. + I`ve convinced him to get a switch.
thx mate. :)
tj
Hi Cor,
Some gr8 info, i've followed it to the letter...but I'm having problems I can't explain?
I've setup IP Filtering rules for ports 17010 - 17012 to allow me to host games on a particular online game. I've followed your generic rule for creating rules and i've also created a NAT rule to pass the packets to the correct ports (same range) to my computer in my LAN.
I've run the ShieldsUP! test at http://www.grc.com/ because my packets don't appear to be getting through. And as I suspected ShieldsUP! is reporting those ports to be "Closed", why are they not "Open"? I've checked the rules and they are on the router and filtering the correct ports.
What am I missing...please help.
Lankymart
Hi Cor, need some (off topic) advice here as I want to go wireless...
My setup are as follows: I have the 205 router, connected to it is a Netgear fs108 switch. Connected to my switch are my 2 computers and a Netgear print server. I have just purchased a Sony Vaio s4xp laptop and now I want to go wireless. My intension is to wack in a contraption of some sort into my switch and voila...
However I cannot find an access point on its own. Only stuff I can find are wireless ROUTERS etc, but no access points by itself. As I'm happy with my current setup I dont want to waste money on yet another router. I just need someting I can add to my switch.
any suggestions on brand names/models that I can look or ask for spesifically?
I even went to the local PCWorld to see what they have, but that was also a waste of time.
Forgot to add, need something that I can secure as I dont want my neighbour to connect to my wireless and slow down my connection (as I do with him sometimes...)
Hi Cor,
I have a voyager 205 arriving soon via Ebay and then stumbled upon your site..saying the USB is a no-go!
I want to connect two PCs up so I wondered how I would go about connecting up my Linksys BEFSR41 router to the Voyager 205 and using the Linksys Ethernet ports to connect to the 2 PCs?
Do I have to disable the Voyager 205's router functionality? Or something else?
I am pretty new to networking so please keep it quite simple!
Many thanks for any replies.
Hi Andy,
buy a 4 or a 8 port switch, from your router, connect one patch cable to the switch and then connect all your computers with patch cables to the switch. Thats all there is to it. No need for any software to install either.
For more technical explanations, await the reply from the Master himself.
Hi Uncle Bob,
Thanks for the help..in fact the linksys router is also a four port switch (cable\dsl router with four port switch-according to the box I have here) so maybe I could use that?
Hehe..I await the master too.
Thanks again.
Come on guys! I got ego troubles enough as it is!
well, that's strange Martin, no removing rules is good, you want the whole thing clean before you start making rules. YOu say you made a config and the delted the rules in it. I'm presuming you then uploaded the thing back to the 205? The ready-made scripts (in the archive) are a good starting point, a handy reference, anyway.
For services, I'd disable anything related to uPNP, but then I have security concerns about the whole thing. I love the idea of uPNP, it's the implementation that concerns me. Pity, because if it was all it was cracked up to be, it would save us a great deal of hassle.. Switch on the router. the end.
Then you say you can't get other local machines to connect "via the router's address". That makes no sense to me. You can't go "via" the router. If you want to test your "outside-in" capabilities, do it from OUTSIDE! (check out the webserver troubleshooter for some ideas and tips about this) It can be done. If the probe (which runs from my workshop server) says success, it means it, you are good to go.
I could run some tests, if you like, supply me some more details (perhaps drop into chat or something).
Glodgeous, all DynDNS does is provides a "pointer" to your home IP (which changes). For instance, you can always find my workshop development mirror at corz.ath.cx, nomatter what my IP is. This sort of dynamic address hosting service is available from quite a few places, but as DynDNS hosts (and tzo) can be updated automatically by the voyager, it's a smart choice for 205 users.
I'm presuming that once you find your "home" IP, you can do whatever you do with that cam after that, I dunno, perhaps you need the sololink service to use the camera, but this sounds unlikely.
You can create single rules that cover UDP and TCP, see the Bittorrent recipe for the how-to. I can't give a definitive answer about exactly what sort of rule this unit might need, not without more info (feel free to mail me its technical manual), but it's possible that the usual "rdr" redirect rule won't cut it. Perhaps you'll need a different flavour. See the PDF documentation for all the different flavours, test test test, and let us know what works!
You can specify your own port, I see. Pick something way up high, then, in the tens of thousands.
lankymart, is the game running when you test? What does my prot probe say?
Hi Uncle Bob. I don't use wireless myself, but I think you're looking at getting something like this..
http://www.rlsupplies.co.uk/products/product.asp?id=2864
http://www.rlsupplies.co.uk/products/product.asp?id=1599
http://www.rlsupplies.co.uk/products/product.asp?id=1471
there seems to be something up with their images just now. I guess if you really wanted to, you could go to PCWorld Or just google: wireless access point
Andy, Uncle Bob is right, there's nothing to it! There will likely be an "uplink" port in the Linksys, connect that to the 205, and your puters into the other sockets (the Linksys is a 4-port router too, yeah?)
In fact (googles..) yeah, the Linksys is a 4-port DSL router, you probably don't even need the 205, just setup the linkysys to use BT!
have fun!
;o)
Hi Cor,
Thanks for the info..much appreciated..I don't think I can just connect up the linksys router for BT as there isn't a modem inside it..it's just a router and 4 port switch.
I tried the Linksys chat help and they told me I would have to disable the router function on either the 205 or the linksys.
Any more help would be appreciated...Andy
Hi Cor,
Thanks again for the sage words. I've tried to send you and e-mail with the tech specs of the webcam - I hope one or other of the addresses I used got through!
Sounds like Andy, in previous posting, has a similar dilemma to mine (205 connected to a Linksys WiFi router). I wonder if his approach of just disabling the router functions of the 205 and relying on the Linksys might not be the best approach?
I may have a play with that idea given that not a lot else seems to be working at my end. I'll post again if it makes any difference - one way or another!
yup Glodgeous, I got them both!
Looking at the manual, and linksys' own setup page (mentioned in the manual), it seems like a fairly straightfoward port-forward.
Have you seen that page? It pretty much explains the whole thing. I'm surprised it's not working, in fact. Can you access the camera locally? On the same port? And after you insert the port-forwarding rules (onto a clean router, yeah? like from one of the ready-made configs) does my port probe give you success?
I tried to connect to your camera just now but no dice. Perhaps you've changed the port again. Perhaps you are one of those that switches off their router at night and have a new IP today.
Anyways, not only is it doable, it's looks like it should be easy, certainly easier than setting up an FTP server or something like that, so maybe you have something else sticking the process.
Get an IP for today, keep it, get a port for your camera, keep it. Tell me what they are, and I'll run a few tests (I can get your IP when you post here). Mail me your exported BT config, and I'll see if there's anything in there preventing this working.
I see Andy, you'll probably want to load this page with ALL comments and look for "zipb" mode. It should just be one command to switch the 205 over, but if anyone ever came back and confirmed that, I missed it! If you can get back here afterwards with a yes/no, you become eligible for a chocolate medal.
It would probably be better to use the router in the linksys, by the way, as it won't have the limits the 205 has, i.e. max 512 IP sessions. Not that that's stopped me running KAD (on top of my usual BitTorrent/eMule/FTP server/Web server/web/mail/etc/etc) this last month without any problems.
l*rz..
;o)
Hi,
Interesting & informative site, thank goodness, the BT info is c**p.
I have just ordered an upgrade from BT's standard Broadband package to their top of the range BT Yahoo Broadband package.
The sales person I spoke to seems to think I will need to reinstall their (and the Voyager's) software with a new CD they are sending me.
I am not looking forward to this as a Mac user, as BT's last Broadband CD seemed to have rather precarious compatability with OS X 10.3.9, and was a bit of a struggle to install.
Knowing what I do about how routers connect to the internet via ethernet (mostly from your site and associated links, thank you very much) I can see no reason why I should have to change anything on the computer for my connection to keep working after the upgrade (2nd September), as it works great now.
Is this correct, or have I misunderstood?
Hi -
I see you know a lot about the 205!!!
I have a BT voyager 205 ADSL router which has a ethernet output and a USB output. My W98 PC is connected to the USB port and I would like to connect my families two wireless laptops to the system.
Can I use a DWL-900AP+ or similar and connect it to the ethernet socket on the 205 to get wireless connectivity?
Is this compatible?
I've looked into the web pages on the 205 and it looks complicated - Any tips on how to set it up?
Thanks
Chris
Cor
Another thank you! I've just sent off an e-mail with the info you asked for attached. I hope it helps!
Regards
Excellent !!!!! I have been looking for this site for months (even though I was not aware of its existance).
I am with BTinternet but my sister signed up with Tiscali ( yugh !!)
I have a spare 205 is it possible to use this with her ISP and how would I go about it as they supplied a nasty Sagem with software.
Regards Stevo.
Chris.. Simply put YES. look here but u need adobe reader to view this. http://www.dlink.com.au/products/wireless/dwl900ap+/DWL900AP+.pdf
router connects to DWL900ap+ via ethernet cable and ya lappys connet via wireless to DWL900AP+ ..
You are correct, Diarmid, no software is required. You may have to change your DNS settings (better yet, create a new "location" in your network system prefs, just in case you ever need to revert!) but that's it. The 205 supplies ready-to-eat internet straight out of its ethernet port, you just plug in.
Chris, you might want to consider getting a switch, and plugging everything into that (and connect your win98 puter to the switch by ethernet cable), there have been issues when both the USB and ethernet ports of the 205 are used simulteneously.
Stevo, Yes! But..
Robbie says..
So there ye go!
;o)
Hi Cor and all,
Thanks for the info..do you have any more tips on using this mysterious "zipb" mode?
Cheers, Andy
Excellent, thank you very much.
Hi there cor ;)
Glad my advice has helped someone and you remembered me .. Been offline while i got my new isp and 2mb line..:) Thanks for all the helpand good advice ..i still come back here as there is so much to learn ... No probs at all with router i'm happy to report.. BTW those hydro electric trials with the internet sound really cool..
Regards, Robbie
A bit off topic but i thought i'd ask. i have a BT voyager 205. was setting up as you specify, one of my xp users could not log on before or after i made the router settings. bt told me to enable sharing, which screwed up all the connections, so i reset the router,but one of my users still cannot log on.any ideas, i'm new to all this. TIA liam
Hi,
I crave help at the master's feet again etc.......
My BT welcome pack has arrived, and it looks as if I may have to change my log in user name in the 205. My old documentation say it preconfigured to "voyager205.user@btbroadband.com", while the new Yahoo set up may prefer "broadband.user@btbroadband.com"
I can't find anything in Advance settings to so do, can I telnet it, if so how I'm almost illiterate in it..... Though hopefully everything might work anyway....
By the way, for others info, I just discovered that on my Mac, nothing -even the multiple clicking- lets me in to the Advanced web interface in Safari, but it work OK in Explorer 5 for Mac. Glad I did'nt unistall it after all.
U in Aberdeen? I'm in Perth,
Thank you in advance for your forebearance.
Thanks for the help Cor, sorry I've been a few days in replying.
Regarding that config file I made - it was nothing more than a backup (I was afraid of breaking things). I made all further changes directly to the router.
What I meant by "via the router's address" was: I went to www.whatismyip.com and made a note of the IP... I (wrongly?) referred to this as the router's address. Telling my client app (which is running on a PC on my LAN) to connect to a server on 192.168.1.40:2222 works fine, whereas <router's IP address>:2222 does not.
I read your troubleshooting (webservers) advice abouy testing outside->in connections by using a proxy server but I don't understand how to configure it. Before I had ASDL internet access I used a proxy server (JanaServer2) to share internet access across my LAN. PC_1 had the dial-up modem and ran the proxy server software, PC_2 and PC_3 were configured to look to PC_1 for HTTP, FTP and Socks protocol communication. Anyway, today all 3 PCs are using the router (192.168.1.1) for internet access, and PC_3 (192.168.1.40) is running some server software and listening on UDP port 2222. I don't understand how I can appear to be outside 192.168.1.XX by running a proxy server on any of my 3 PCs.
Mayby I should just persuade a friend (who truly is outside of my LAN) to try connecting to my server? - But eventually I idealy would like several clients to connect to my server, some on my LAN, some from outside - this is possible, isn't it?
If you wouldn't mind running some tests for me that would be great - I could send you the server / client app that I'm trying to use... however, call me stupid but I couldn't find a chat link or contact address for you except for the one on your blog (btw - abrasive mouthwash is a *great* idea and I'm cretainly gonna take chewing more seriously for a while
Thanks again,
Martin
Yer right Andy, and from now on I will refer to zipb mode as "The Mysterious zipb mode".
Yes Robbie, there is so much to learn. I'm giving my old laptop a new lease of life today, courtesy of Slackware Linux, so I'll be learning heaps about Linux pcmcia drivers, USB mass storage and much more. Ahh.. the joy of learning! And hey! how I could I forget?
liam, log on to what? exactly?
I usually recommend folk start with a clean-slate, in other words, upload one of the "ready-made" configs from the archive. Then start hacking at the settings. Those built-in rules can really mess with things. Whatever's wrong, it's probably fixable. more info please.
Diarmid!, fit ye like!
Don't worry about the login, you could put mickmouse@disney.com, you'd still connect just fine.
As for browsers, I have only one word on the subject: Firefox
for now..
;o)
Hi Cor
Still haven't resolved my VPN issues yet but unless I am mistaken it could be a really simple thing. (really the 'gotcha' that you mentioned to me earlier.
The IP addresses that were set up by default do clash with my work IP addresses - so I gave the 205 (sacre numero) a DHCP range of 192.168.1.92 to 192.168.1.95 and the 205 itself an address of 192.168.1.90 - still no joy. Duh. Still the same subnet. Duh. I need a different subnet to ensure that requests for addresses that are off-subnet go to the gateway - this explains a lot - the machine if it thinks at all presumeably thinks I have lots of machines that are not switched on! including WINS and DNS servers.
I need to generate a different subnet - preferably up in the 200s like 192.168.1.240 - 254 - but every time I try to do it the 205 gives me a dire warning in red and I have had to reset it a couple of times - where am I going wrong worng wong wong wong - (with apoogies to Yul B)
regards pete
Martin, you don't setup a proxy server *anywhere*, you utilise the services of an outside proxy server...
normally..
peecee1 >> peecee3 (server)
or via a proxy..
peecee1 >> proxy server >> router >> peecee3 (server)
The proxy server has no choice but to connect to your "outside" address (public IP) because IT IS outside! If you enter that IP into any of your LAN peecees, they will recognise that the IP belongs to the router and take the shortest router, i.e. directly to the router. It's no surprise then, that they can't connect to that server on port 2222 because the router has no server running on port 2222.
If you altered the router's web interface to run on port 2222, THAT is what you'd get. To test incoming connexion capabilites, YOU MUST USE AN OUTSIDE CLIENT! A proxy simply acts as an outside client, it doesn't matter that the original request comes from the same IP, the proxy just does what it's told.
But most proxy servers will only accept web requests, so they aren't much use for testing non-standard servers. But the port probe is, and will tell you quite definitely if you have a TCP server running on a particular port. The onlt other way to test is to get a real outside person to try it.
It's the weekend, so I'll happily log in for ya (chat link under smiley in toolbar, try the IRC link if I'm not in the site chat, which is usually.)
l*rz..
;o)
It was a case of Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair - I just didn't quite understand this whole inside / outside of the network thing - as soon as I got a friend to test my program from the outside I found your rules were working all along. I then had another PC on my LAN join the same session (using the local IP address, of course) and we had a little 3-way game going.
Superb.
Many bunches of thanks for all your help,
Martin
Great, thanks again! Yup, I heard that radon is good for you too
Please can you tell me how to "upload the contained "commitedcfg.cfg" file to the "home" folder of your Viking based router via FTP" as mentioned in your ready-made configuration section? I am a complete novice to all this malarkey and could really use a hand setting up this router. Have tried everything in the trouble shooting section and still cannot get a successful probe with your open-port probe. All firewalls have been disabled. I am tearing my hair out with this pesky router!
Cheers
JJ
have managed to ftp the *.cfg file to the home folder of my router. Still no joy. Still cannot get success on your open port probe and all firewalls have been disabled. Please can you suggest anything else. I am trying to configure it for Limewire (which uses ports 6346).
yeah Martin, it's confusing stuff, even some "experts" go "huh? ahhh I seeee!"
JJ, did the router reboot immediately on your FTP upload? It should have. Did you use the "default+p2p" script? It has limewirew already in and ready to go.
Other than the usual recommendations (disable other firewalls, etc), the stuff on the troubleshooter list, all I can think of that would scupper your efforts is if your peecee was NOT at IP 192.168.1.3, whcih the ready-made scripts expect it to be at. It has a static IP of 192.168.1.3, yeah?
Also you will need the application running before you probe it, of course.
l*rz..
;o)
ps.. Diarmid, I'll hold ye to that!
Why can I not change the address of this beast to 192.168.0.1 or something like it????
oops! sorry Peter, I must have missed your first question. You can easily do that, in fact I ran my voyager at exactly that address for a few months myself.
look in your cfg file for the line that reads..and alter it to whatever IP you need, upload, and you're done. It's simple enough to do in the web interface, too.
I don't understand what you were trying to do when you got the red warning, but try altering the base IP first.
keep us posted!
;o)
Hi, some time ago I read on this very useful website that the Voyager 205 router is incompatible with the eMule Kad network. Earlier I'd been going crazy trying to figure out why it wasn't working :)
I'm now thinking of buying a new ADSL modem (not a router since I only have one computer). Could you recommend a not too expensive one - preferrably under £100 - which Kad compatible?
Thanks,
Marco
Hi, Im having a nightmare with my 205 voyager.
For some reason when im using a program that sends multiple pings (Gamespy Arcade / All Seeing Eye or an in game browser, like UT2004's for example) my router will stop dead and refuse to even be pinged by my pc, and I cannot access any websites.
Strange thing is, voice comms software (teamspeak2) will keep on running!
Im assuming that the router views this as a DDOS attack as im asking for replies from multiple servers.
Ive tried the various disable methods through telnet but still no joy.
Any advice please im running out of ideas!?
Thanks
Rhys
Well, Marco, I've been running KAD through my 205 (along with the usual torrent queue, etc, etc, etc) for around a month, and it works great.
So long as you are mindful of the TOTAL maximum TCP connexions (512) you can run the whole lot quite successfully, for sure, search times are fast, results are good, and downloads are swift, what else do you need?
If you really want to spend some money, I've had some great experiences with the Linksys routers, robust, easy to administer, and good looking, but the market is always in flux and I wouldn't recommend anything without first having a thorough google through the many internet broadband review sites.
Rhys, are you starting with one of the ready-made configs? There's probably a few tweaks that would help you (max connexions and tcp/udp timings for starters) .
Even when you start with the ready-made, you may still need to tweak some - if I remember, attack protection is enabled on those, and that was a good call on your part, a few badly behaved servers have been known to trip the switch - but the basic essential stuff is already done, like removing all those built-in firewall rules.
Check out the public archive, link in the "Useful Links" secxtion above these comments.
have fun!
;o)
Hi.
I've been using the Voyager 205 for a couple of months. I recently reinstalled Windows with XP2, have applied the connection limit fix for tcpip.sys, have limited upload speed to 15Kb/s.
Using bittorrent before the reinstall I used to regularly max out my download speed and torrents kept running no problem.
Now I'm very lucky if it will hit 100Kb/s (2Mb service) and every so often uploads/downloads will stall to 0Kb/s
I have tried limiting overall upload rate to 25Kb/s and the client to 15Kb/s to no effect.
TCP connections are hovering just under 200.
I have tried several different clients to no avail. I have been using bittorrent since the early days so know my configuration is good.
I would rather not use the voyager at all as I have a nice netgear router. Is there any way I can just basically get the router to act like a modem and connect it to my netgear router to handle all port-forwarding etc..
Hi, I've been using my 205 for about 6 months, I do some surfing which I get rewards for, but I am limited to once per day per unique IP address. Until yesterday, when I disconnected and reconnected the router with a few seconds delay, I would normally be given a new IP address, but now it seems to be the same all the time. Is this a config issue and is it something BT may have changed from their end?
Hi Cor!
I'm getting ARP level scans from my stealthed router eg.
08/30-12:05:17.919861 ARP who-has 192.168.1.3 tell 192.168.1.1
08/30-12:05:17.919923 ARP who-has 192.168.1.4 tell 192.168.1.1
08/30-12:05:17.919933 ARP reply 192.168.1.4 is-at 0:C:B4:29:A2:8C
08/30-12:05:17.919975 ARP who-has 192.168.1.5 tell 192.168.1.1
08/30-12:05:17.920068 ARP who-has 192.168.1.6 tell 192.168.1.1
08/30-12:05:17.920119 ARP who-has 192.168.1.7 tell 192.168.1.1
08/30-12:05:17.920172 ARP who-has 192.168.1.8 tell 192.168.1.1
08/30-12:05:17.920226 ARP who-has 192.168.1.9 tell 192.168.1.1
08/30-12:05:17.920279 ARP who-has 192.168.1.10 tell 192.168.1.1
snipped
These go through the whole 192.168.1.0/24 range and cough up all the MAC addresses. Is this normal router stuff or is someone managing to scan my internal network?
Hi Cor,
A little help please if possible
I have a 205 and done most of the recommedations on the site. But have 1 problem.
I have a terminal server 192.168.1.252 (Fixed ip) My 205 WAN ip address is fixed by the provider. So I want to be able to telnet port 23 from outside (I have already configured user ID and strong password)
Also I would like to telnet through this terminal server to port 2033 to 2048.
If possible using SSH.
Eg telnet 192.168.1.1 2033 (this will then onward connect me to the device on 2033. Iv'e got this working from the inside LAN 192.168.1.x
Thanks
David
mickc1303, that tcp fix for XP SP2 has mixed results, mostly it makes no difference these days, M$ seem to have fixed the trouble with one of there zillion updates. I presume you've got your XP box 100% up-to-date with patches and whatnot.
The download behaviour is strange. Do you have another machine you can test it on, just to see if it really is the router to blame? I know high download speeds are possible - I grabbed the full debian CD set in like 10 minutes at the weekend, well, seemed like that, crazy! - and with KAD running on the windows box!
If all else fails, you must join the other grail-hunters, rewind these comments some (load the page with all comments, and wait a minute) and seek out a thing called "zipb mode". I'm told zipb mode is also mentioned in Dan Brown's "The Da Vinci Code", but that could have been a dream, and certainly not reason enough to purchase such a pile of apparently entertaining but certainly almost totally ficticious doo-dah.
my mail client must have some sort of hidden filter that picks up the word "zipb", because every time someone emails me to tell me how they successfully applied this setting, and attached their config, well, it just deletes it before I see it! weird.
Hi me! (a perfectly normal thing to say at five ay em!)
The router sends out ARP packets all the time, it's continually twattering on about the missing machine at 192.168.1.200 (my black hole device) and asks about every second. Every minute or so it asks about one of the real machines, just checking. And that's the timescale I'd expect to see on ARP packets, and that's what causes me to wonder about yours.
Am I reading that correctly? Is that thousands of requests a second? surely not! That's nmap on the "megafrantic" mode! Anyways ARP goes below the radar (erm, IP level), it's an ethernet thing, afaik it's not possible to do an ARP scan from outside, is it? If someone knows better, then enlighten me. I tried such a scan on my own IP from a distant nmap host, but nothing happened.
I don't know why I feel the need right now to mention that I don't have any built-in rules living in my router, no sir!
I tried enabling the voyager's DHCP server to see if it would kick in with some broadcast action, and although there seemed to be a few unusual double requests, nothing like what you are experiencing. Feel free to mail me your exported config. Put "Notification of Payment Received" in the subject line, so it has a chance of filtering to the top of is starting to look like the inbox from Bruce Almighty. Of course, I'll swear when I see it's just a bloody router config!
David J, if I read you correctly (and there's a high chance this late, or rather, early, that I have not done that - I keep having to filter out stuff about the smell of colors and how trees sing, being in-between the dreams and real.. *ahem*) then all you need is a simple port-forwarding rule (rule pair, rather), check out the recipes page, the generic rule edited to port 22 should serve you well enough.
And yes, DEFINITELY ssh, NOT telnet, not outside your LAN, not even inside! The whole Bible back-to-front-and-sideways isn't strong enough if someone can read it in plain text, like telnet is. SSH all the way baby!
Oh! all done!
L8r dudes!
;o)
..right, just a few more tweaks at ampsig.com, THEN bed...
not all done.
In another bizarre twist of the reality, some guy, who goes by the name of "Matt" is having a Very Bad Day, or was. His internet keeps cutting out, all sorts (the usual stuff), he even tried to post here, a few times, nada. Poor sod.
Somehow I got an email notification of these non-existant comments. Don't ask, because I don't know. This new 64bit server has been throwing some crazy wobblers these last two weeks, so anything's possible.
Anyways, Matt, if you haven't hung yourself with your broadband cable yet, and are tuning in, try uploading one of my ready-made configs to that Globespan AR502 and see what happens! It'll probably explode, but there's always that reset button on the back (erm, in fact, check that exists first!)
When that doesn't work, reset the thing, swear, and then export its config, compare it to my read-made, and try applying a few of the juciest tweaks (most are on this page). You might want to telnet in and do it that way. I think you need to get that thing back to basics.
Read this page through, twice.
You could try posting here again, too, but I can't promise it'll work.
;o)
[edit]ahh. explained -> Matt posted all three copies on the advanced page. Oh well, that's what the delete button is for.[/edit]
I need some help here. I've a problem with my puter. I cannot connect to the update server at all. I can connect/download Windows updates but not updates to/from my vendor's servers. Has anyone else with a Sony Vaio have the same type of problem, or is it some changes I need to make on my router? Every time I try to access Vaio Update, I get the error message "The server could not be accessed. please try again." I cannot believe that a company like Sony could have such a continious problems with their update servers, so the fault must lie with me.
My router is currently set up as follows:
create ipf rule entry ruleid 5 dir out act accept storestate enable seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 500000 ifname public dir in act deny seclevel high medium low
modify fwl global blistprotect enable attackprotect enable dosprotect enable
create nat rule entry ruleid 100000 napt
modify fwl global blistprotect enable
Prior to these settings I have ran one of your scripts to delete all the ipf rule ids.
I have BTYahoo and am using the Voyager 205 Router.
Behind it I attached aLinkSys Router w/phone ports for VOIP through Vonage.
Well, I am not getting any help from BT on how to config the Voyager 205 Router and hope you might help with some advice?
Second attempt - BB playing silly.ISP say it's line- BT SAY IT'S NOT - Troubleshoot says all is well except Connection to Internet/ Connected and authenticated to ISP,which fail. Next looked at DSL parameters on the Advanced Diagnostic page. -took copy.Little while later i took another copy - very similar.Hs anyone worked /found out anything on this - eg i would sispect that local is from me to exchange and remote vice versa.
Don't know what SNR limits are but 15 & 23 look ok to me.
meant to add - everything works on ethernet.
tried another modem - same probs - suspect large flannel from isp.
Help please.
PC runs fine, never an issue, but am an avid XBOX LIVE gamer, and since getting the router a few weeks ago, i cant game anymore. I can connect to the live service, but then it tells me when i try to join a game, no reply from service. I reckon its blocking the return but dont know how to sort it or find if thats the case.
I need my xbox live, otherwise i'll have to be sociable with the wife!!
Many thanks for the assistance in advance,
Paul.
PaulM, hmm only looked real quick, but try making NAT/IPF rules for the following ports, and let me know if it changes anything :P
TCP
22042-22050
UDP
6500, 13139, 22043-22050
btw...cor i think BT blocked access to your site for their support technicians lol xD cus i had to phone em up yesterday, as everytiem there's a thunderstorm where i live, my connection screws up :@ anyway....we got to talkin bout why i wasn't connected by USB lol, and he couldn't acces corz.org xD
Cheers Bael, sorted now, messing about with links into router, setup xbox into DMZ, rather sheepish now as i really should have tried that first. Thanks anyways for the great site, just about the most helpful on the web!!
Although, just went onto live again, and guess what, same problems, had to reset router and try again, worked again.
Bloomin BT routers!!
cor,
sorry for a lame question, but do you know how to configure Viking to just act as a modem? My DSL provider sells Vikings, that seem to act like that, but it seems like I don't know how to return to that state once I reset settings...
That's not urgent for me, but I'm trying to write a small HOWTO on configuring Viking, and I thought it would be good to put a note for those, who want to revert back to the original state.
BTW, you removed my comment on Ctrl+H, but you haven't added that to your text...
Add this file to your archives. That's a much bigger (and supposedly, newer) Viking CLI reference, which also happens to be the official one (released by Conextant!). Dunno how legal it is though. There are some other interesting files on that server too. :)
Folks
A really basic problem. But not covered in the advice & comments so far (I think).
I'm running an iMac G4 OS X 10.3.9. I have a BTinternet ethernet connection via a Voyager 205. The connection drops out frequently. Pinging fails.
But no problem with running exactly the same settings etc on a Powerbook G4, OS X 10.4.
Question: it looks like something to do with the iMac - settings or even hardware - but I hope it isn't....
Herman
I can access the advanced pages on the router webbased config but I can't access any of the optons, when I click on e.g. security the page refreshes but nothing happens, I dont see what is on the security page or any other.
My ip address are not overlapping
I have issued "modify mctl access httplanaccess enable" to the router in a telnet session to which I got the reply "set done"
I can access the router with both 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.1.2
Thany you in advance
Martin
I have a voyager 205 sent by BT Yahoo for broadband.
I did the setup and connected via ethernet to a network card which i have used through a hub to other pc's on my network.
The 205 did not connect correctly and the troubleshooter said that it could not see my router.
I contacted BT Yahoo helpdesk who asked me to plub in the USB lead, which then worked. They informed me that the network card was faulty.
I reconnected the network card (Linksys) to my hub and straight away a full connection to my network so i assume that card is ok.
Again talked to BT Yahoo to advise and they said they cannot help and as the usb works will provide no further assistance.
When i try to connect via ethernet to the 205 the network card does not get an IP address (though it looks for one for 1 min ish)
It then comes back with "limited or no conectivity"
I have swapped the rj45 lead but still nothing
Any clues
rgs
keith dixon
Keith,
first, you should be sure, that the modem works as DHCP server on the ethernet port, then you should also make sure you're using the correct cable (crossover vs. the "traditional" one).
Also, try connecting your PC directly to the modem first (with no hub inbetween).
Hi Cor
I tried to post this before but for some reason I kept being timed-out so I thought I'd try notepad.
Thanks for you help and the help from your site with my VPN problem. Solution as follows.
You put your finger right on it with a 'gotcha' but I found it harder to fix than I thought.
Really no alterations to how the 205 comes out of the box in terms of firewall, NAT etc.
I had an address conflict with machines at work. When I went to look for a remote address from home, because the subnet at home included the address it never even interrogated the gateway. Duh.
The VPN tunnel will set up just fine as per Microsoft instructions - you can see it running from both ends - but will be unable to join work domain etc. unless you have subnets sorted.
I use 192.168.1.1 - 192.168.1.200 at work with 255.255.255.0 mask. By default the 205 uses these addresses.
Using the Web interface all the way,
I first added 192.168.50.3 - 192.168.50.20 gateway 102.168.50.1 to the DHCP range and then deleted the original record. The 50 is in homage to matanza, whoever you are, thank you - we walked the same path.
I then changed the 205's address to 192.168.50.1 mask 255.255.255.0 - I IGNORED the dire warnings in red and just did it. I was then able to log on to 192.168.50.1 and check stuff.
I reset the connections of connected computers (I use a hub at home between me and the 205) and used ipconfig to check everything.
Opened my VPN tunnel and was able to log onto my work domain straight away.
I would be happy to answer queries if anyone is interested.
Best regards
Peter
REF: response below. The router is connected directly to the pc, when i have tried to connect via the hub i do not get a ethernet light on the router (but i do when connected directly to pc)
is the rj45 from router to pc crossover or standard?
Also could you advise how to check that the modem works as DHCP server on the ethernet port?
regrads
Keith DIxon
Keith,
first, you should be sure, that the modem works as DHCP server on the ethernet port, then you should also make sure you're using the correct cable (crossover vs. the "traditional" one).
Also, try connecting your PC directly to the modem first (with no hub inbetween).
Keith - connect router to "uplink" port on hub. You only need normal RJ45 cables. What Opsys do you have on PCs?
Peter,
Thanks for your reply
I'm using xp with service pack 2
I linked the router to the hub via the uplink connection and from the hub to the main pc.
again the network connection failed and ended up with an ip address of 169.254.164.171 with a subnet of 255.255.0.0. the tcp/ip protocol is set to obtain automatically, as with dns.
any clues or do you think it's a duff router?
when using usb there are no probs with the router assigning the ip address 192.168.1.??? etc
rgs
keith dixon
Keith - I take it that you can get into the router via the webpage? Have you checked that DHCP is in fact switched on?
Peter
Hello can some help please!!, I'm trying to setup a Web Server through my Voyager 205 i'm using Apache server 2.0 the problem is I have setup port fowarding and people can see my site from there PC's , but when i type my URL form my Lan i get the BT Voyager 205 page http://192.168.1.1/hag/pages/home.htm I have tryed to disable NAT and use briding mode but can't get it to work... Any help most welcome
Kind Regards
Jamie...
Hello can some help please!!, I'm trying to setup a Web Server through my Voyager 205 i'm using Apache server 2.0 the problem is I have setup port fowarding and people can see my site from there PC's , but when i type my URL form my Lan i get the BT Voyager 205 page http://192.168.1.1/hag/pages/home.htm I have tryed to disable NAT and use briding mode but can't get it to work... Any help most welcome
Kind Regards
Jamie...
Hi (or
Nice article. I'd love some advice please...
I'm trying to set up a wireless network for a friend. He has a BT Voyager 205 ADSL router. This has been configured with NAT enabled and DHCP disabled. He has purchased a Mentor WL-R4RII wireless router that he wants to use to share the internet connection between his desktop (via wired LAN) and laptop (via wireless). The Mentor is connected via RJ45/CAT5 crossover cable from the WAN port to the ethernet port on the Voyager. The desktop is connected via RJ45/CAT5 straight cable to one of the 4 LAN ports on the Mentor wireless router. The Voyager goes into a microfilter and into the phone line.
The Mentor has been configured to have IP address 192.168.1.10 and the Voyager to 192.168.1.1. I can ping the wireless router from the PC, but not from PC to the Voyager. I can't get internet at all, and I can't ping any external IP addresses.
Has anyone set up anything similar? Anything that I'm doing wrong? Should I try to disable NAT on the Voyager router and just set up the wireless router with NAT and DCHP?
Any help greatly appreciated.
I have recently got broadband and was provided with a bt voyager 220v router. I haven't got a problem yet but I am intending to get one soon. I have searched for techy data on the 220 and asked bt nicely with no joy. How closely related is the 220 to the 205?
peter,
I have checked the dhcp setting within the browser,
It is set to "DHCP SERVER"
rgs
keith dixon
hi guys. having trouble with bit torrent and my router. i start downloading with bit torrent the cliant i use is called abc and my download rate starts off ine but then no matter what the torrent the download rate drops to 0 anyone have any ideas? it only becomes ok when i restart the whole pc and then usually falls again soon after.
Keith
Kind of starting again - if you ignore the hub and connect the phone line to the 205 - the 205 to PC via normal RJ45 cable - the DHCP is set to server - and there is an IP range set for DHCP - the PCs TCP/IP properties set to "obtain an IP address automatically" - if you disable the LAN connection in the Network Connections screen - power up the router and make sure that all the lights on the box are behaving - enable the LAN connection and watch the 'details box' in the bottom left-hand corner of the screen - you should be able to watch the stages that it goes through as it attempts to acquire an address - and if indeed it is successful. What is the 205s address? What is the range that is set for the DHCP? What is the 'mask'?
Best regards
Peter
Peter,
I followed the steps you suggested,
the router came on and dignosed, then remail static with power, eternet and dsl lit.
the lan card started with
physical address 00-03-6d-15-fe-e3
ip0.0.0.0
subnet 0.0.0.0
then after approx 1 min
address type: automatic private address
IP address 169.254.164.171
subnet 255.255.0.0
no default gateway
no dns server
no wins server
Keith - thanks for doing that - it looks like a straightforward case of no communication - the IP address that you get is certainly one used in the case of no DHCP server available. What is the IP address of the router, is it still 192.168.1.1 or have you changed it? Have you changed anything else on the 205 - if you have why not reset it back to how it comes out of the box?
Peter
Peter,
I have not changed anything from within the router.
I was asked by btyahoo to do a full reset of the box (press the reset button) which brings it back to factory settings
When i connect via usb it is on 192.168.1.2
Do you think i have a duff box?
rgs
keith dixon
p.s. thanks for your help so far
Keith - I am reluctant to say 'duff box' because in my experience (and I've opened an awful lot of boxes) they very seldom are duff. I see you've tried a different RJ45 cable and that makes no difference. BT suggest the Network card, but they would wouldn't they. Murphy's 1001st law states that in a multi-vendor situation no vendor will ever take the blame for a fault.
But it is a communication fault of some sort.
Set the IP address of your PC to 192.168.1.3, subnet mask to 255.255.255.0, gateway to 192.168.1.1, DNS Server to 192.168.1.1 (probably stupid but it wont hurt) and see if the 205 and the PC talk to each other.
You mention 'other PCs on your Network' have you tried one of those in the same way - or borrowed another NIC (network card) to try?
Sometime these problems drive you crazy.
regards Peter
To:
For geedubb.
I had the same problem recently, but with an Belkin wireless router.
My set up is as follows:
My Voyager has IP: 192.168.1.1
My wireless has IP: 192.168.1.3
The belkin wireless allows you the option just to set-up as an access point using the web interface. But I guess it really just means that NAT and DCHP are disabled on the wireless router.
My voyager has NAT and DCHP enabled, with the IP addresses excluded from the DCHP range.
192.168.1.3 = wireless
192.168.1.4 = NOT USED - why? I don't know - so dont ask!
192.168.1.5 = laptop
192.168.1.6 = desktop, wired connection
192.168.1.7 = Printer
Both PC'S IP manually configured in XP Network connections.
The voyager has DCHP enabled to allow other people to use their laptops for web browsing etc.
To exclude your wireless and manually set IP's
IP Address configuration . DCHP Server .
DCHP Pool Modify section accessed by clicking the pen icon next to the pool listing.
Then type in the IP's, pressing add and apply each time, and just to be sure the red save button on the pervious page.
I hope this helps, let us know.
Sampson
Keith - You said that the 205 would work with USB - does that mean that you've used the BT Yahoo! disk to set it up SINCE you did the 'button in the back' reset. If you have - that could be the problem. Reset the little bugger again - don't set it up with their CD-ROM - its not necessary - the connection depends upon your phone number not the setup disk - you could even do a remove programs from the control panel - I did that and then had to run Registry Mechanic to get all traces from my machine.
Then try the DHCP thing again - as I recall if you use their disk to set up it makes you choose between USB, Ethernet or both - I DEFINITELY wouldn't trust it after setting it up for USB. Ethernet is the industry standard for such devices.
Best wishes - Pete
Hi all..
I play neverwinternights online regularly and have just installed the 205.
When gamespy shows up available servers, it hangs for a while and the router kicks me off the net(internet explored stops working etc).
I know that I need to forward a range of ports as described in port forward website..port ranges are..5120-5300,6500,27900,28900..I am having trouble with all these as the 205 is limited I know.
Is there a way of forwarding all these? Any help would be appreciated.
Cheers, Andy.
Greetings
I have a BT voyager 205 router, which i am happy with, since it was free.
But im not sure whether it is my ISP or the router, but i keep having the same problem, when i log on the various p2p software i use downloads at a good rate of 170 kbps, which is standard i guess of a 2Mbps broadband connection, but several minutes after, the download rate falls to 0.
I have forwarded all the nessary ports for the software i use, and also as the download rate drops to 0 i lose the ability to use the interent in general, e.g. IE or mozilla firefox, all though when i go to play an internet game "world of warcraft" its connects perfectly,
so i am really unsure what the problem is, and i really dont want to talk to someone from india who would just suggest to restart my computer, so please can you suggest anything?
regards
Mushroomwookie
Mushroomwookie, which p2p program is it? well first off if it's e-mule, the first thing you'll need to do is KAD, as the voyager only allows 192 ip connections by default...when they're all used up you get what you're experiencing xD so what you need to do is enter this tweak into your router via telnet:
what this does is increase the maximum connections to 512....the reason you have to disable KAD in e-mule is because it creates 1000s of connections at a time (or so i've heard lol xD i've never actually used e-mule), and ofcourse you also have to forward ports etc...now gamers (and apparently some p2p users, i never experienced it when using just p2p apps) also have another problem, the connections they have previously made, continue to take up one of the 512 slots.....say if they were viewing a server list....that's alot of slots just bieng wasted if you're actually playing the game now...so what they need to do is adjust the connection timeout settings...to make the router drop dead connections faster.....yuo can play around with this until you find something that works for you....but here's what i have atm (numbers are in seconds, just adjust and enter via a telnet session)
Roo you're experiencing exactly what i just explained above...with the server lists on gamespy etc.....so just read the ENTIRE section of corz.org then come back and play around with the tweaks above :P
Good Luck
Bael
btw....cor stop playin with ampsig for a few mins an check out the 205 users lol xD
Hi Bael..thanks for the reply..mmm..looks like I will be having fun playing around with Telnet..hehe..(making sure I read through it all about 100 times over ;O)
Cheers again, I'll let you know how I get on.
Roo
can you write out your config in notepad or work and save it as .cfg and it will work?
its just i want to edit your p2p ready made one so it forwards to the correct ips (ive got 2 pcs on the router)
also all these rule numbers... are they just made up numbers or what? why not start. 1, 2 ,3 etc?
yikes! I wonder what would happen if I ever took a holiday? hehe. been kinda tied up this last week, anyways.. howdy all!
Uncle Bob, sounds like their end.
lost, RQ, seek out zipb mode in these comments. (load page with all comments and type-to-find - btw, RQ, I don't know what you mean about the CTRL-H comment? I can't remember removing anything like that. refresh my memory! thanks for the PDF, now added)
hohoho, if in doubt, it's always the ISP's fault!
herman, sounds like a simple configuration issue. try exporting the setup from one machine to the other.
Martin, sounds like a JavaScript and/or firewall issue. Did you check out the troubleshooting page?
keith dixon, The 205 doesn't need any other device to connect to the internet. Still struggling? plug in only the phone line and let it do its stuff. then plug it into your hub. then plug your peecee (with a static IP) into the hub. how's that?
Peter, the new server (64bit, w00t!) had a tricky start, but it all seems to have settled down now. Hey! It's great to see a nice positive result for VPN. THANK YOU! If I get any mails I can't answer I might forward them on.
Jamie, go read the troubleshooter page, the section entitled "My webserver isn't working!"
geedubb, it goes, net >> 205>> switch >> everything.
podgyhodgy, "I haven't got a problem yet but I am intending to get one soon" what sort of attitude is that? I never intend to get problems, they come along all by themseves!
alex wallis, have you applied all the tweaks? so long as your limits are set (max connexions, max upload speed) there's no reason for BT to bring down anything. Check all that, and put in the default+p2p ready-made config, if you haven't already.
Have you tried other clients? I always recommend Azureues, which apart from it's more inclined learning curve, is the finest BT client out there. Once you master it's various settings, it becomes an almost totally automatic Torrent station, just add to the queue! Try Azzy and see what happens.
vinny, sure! but NOT NOTEPAD! Get a decent text editor, will ya! I recommend a few of those here.
And the reason firewall rules aren't numbered 1, 2, 3, 4, etc, is a) at some later stage you will probably need to create a rule that MUST be excecuted between two other rules, and well, you f*cked, and b) the nubers correspond to the ports they use, so when you need to find them later, you know where to look!
;o)
an aside..
Maybe this is just me, my slightly irregular view of the univers, maybe not. But it seems to me like my router has been "broken in". Like old shoes, it seems more confortable with itself, runs smoother and faster. Like that first 10,000 miles on a new ingine, or hours on your speakers, the tiny metal parts take time to reach their optimal operating mass.
I've often been getting 260Kbs+ recently, and that's higher than my connexion theoretically allows (try updating some Linux packages while you are also torrenteeering and all the rest, and watch the needle leap into the red!)
Aside from the chemistry and physics, its configuration hasn't changed for months (I didn't even bother with the latest firmware). It ain't broke. And that, in itself, is a great thing. It means that if I ever get a dodgy torrent, or a wonky website, I can pretty much rule out the 205, it must be at their end (unless I'm using the windows box, in which case it could be anywhere!).
I'm talking about peace-of-mind, and it's good to remember that after that initial time of transition, the learning curve, the frustration, and all the rest, it'll work, just great, and you can forget all about it!
;o)
Hi,
Is there anyway I can turn the "router" bit off and just have the modem?
I am having problems getting my Linksys wireless router and the voyager to work together.
Many thanks
i want to load in one of your configs, but i cant access some of the parts on the web interface, is there anyway i can install the config via the telnet session?
TIP! clear your internet temp files and you can get into advanced pages. it worked for me.. anyway i haev this BIG problem i have 2 pcs running off the router, pc 1 that is using usb is 192.168.1.3 and pc2 running on the ethernet is 192.168.1.4 both have static ips.
anyway im using the ready made configs for p2p, and i just want to use azureus to start with, anyway reading through the config i find the bit to do with port forwarding etc, and it looks like this
That is a copy past of it and all i changed was rule 4662 so it fowarded ports 4662 to 192.168.1.4... i think :P anyway i tell azureas to use port 4662 on PC2 and on PC1 i tell azureas to use port 4672.
Why do i keep gettnig NAT error?
I would like to contribute to this site with close-up photographs of the
GNet BB0060B ADSL MoDem/Router (Conexant/GlobeSpan/Virata GS8120 ChipSet)
internals and externals. Specifically, the 6 pins connector located near
the Atmel AT45DB161B FLASH chip marked "GSV-Viking" (the FirmWare beeing
Viking II, actually)... The pictures are high-resolution enough to be
able to infer useful information about the circuitry, or to the least the
fundamental basics behind it. Please, let me know how i should proceed!
wolfie, load ALL the comments and search for "zipb mode". <-standard answer. I'll get around to a proper section in the tricks page eventually. If you get it working, feel free to mail me the details.
vinny, get the configs into the router via ftp. any ftp client, login with regular admin user/pass at the router's adress. What you need is in the "home" folder.
no way is that a straight copy-paste from any real config! The 6346 rule is half deleted! Apart from that it looks fine. Assuming you also made corresponding firewall rules to match these NAT rules, everything should be fine. What NAT errors exactly?
Bicephale, proceed by mailing the pics to ME! (click one of the smileys underneath the articles, or just guess any old address, it'll get to me, so long as you don't send it from hotmail or yahoo!) Enclose full details (or as full as possible). If you have versions with arrows saying "attach cable here" (perhaps in a layer over the background image), that would be useful, too.
This is probably more suited to the advanced page - which I still haven't caught up with yet - and when I get the pics up, I'll put the link there.
for now..
;o)
Wrote to you a week or so ago about IE6 always ending up at some subfolder on the Voyager home page. I also had some funny problems with Outlook Express which refused to download pictures even when asked. I had another identical system (or so I thought) on another computer on the same ethernet which worked fine. Went through all the settings and finally found that the naughty one had got a proxy server set with the Voyager's IP address. Unchecked the box and all is now well. Thought you might like to know. Don't ask how the system changed the setting, probably some "user friendly" tweak.
I vaguely remember a dialog in windows along the lines of "automatic proxy configuration", perhaps in its network setup wizard or internet prefs, it's possible that windows could think that the 205 is a proxy, at least some of its attributes (open ports, IP address, etc) fit the bill. A simple URL request would fail, though, as you well know!
Anyway, noted. I might even add something to the troubleshooter about it, I can imagine how frustrating that be, like setting up ALSA for an opl3! (hahah sorree, linux joke)
Thanks for getting back with the solution, damn! I love it when folk do that!
;o)
Hi,
I have a problem trying to run Age of Empires across two PCs connected via a Voyager 205. Firstly, though, here is your get out clause: Yes, I'm running one PC on the USB port, no, I'm not using static IPs. In short, I haven't followed your checklist at all....
Anyway, it seems that when I try to connect to an AoE game on my eth_pc that the usb_pc is using the public IP address of my eth_pc. It's as if there is an ALG NAT rule applied for port 2300. BUT the router doesn't have any such rule AFAIK.
Any help gratefully received as I'm starting to loose my patience
Chivs don't let that patience of your get too loose?? :P lol well i think you sorta answered your own question....
now maybe you can guess what the advice is i'm gunna give you :P
Get rid of usb...and get em both connected by ethernet (get a switch)....then set static IPs on both computers lol xD
Bael
Doing a quick scan of the troubleshooter, couldn't see the actual solution.
What you need to do to use the FQDN rather than IP in your URL, is add an entry in your hosts file
or run your own DNS server. The former is usually the easiest. ;)
Assuming you're using winXP C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc\hosts (or /etc/hosts on *nix)
is the file you need to alter.
Adding an entry like the following:
192.168.1.80 www.mydomain.com
Would allow requests to the URL:
http://www.mydomain.com
To be resolved to 192.168.1.80
Obviously changing the IP to the machine running the server and the FQDN to your FQDN.
This will need to be repeated on each machine on your network, should they require the same functionality.
And WOW this page has grown some in length since my last visit!
The solution is there Papa, simply, use a proxy.
Sure, I have my external domain (and many many other qualified and not-so qualified domains) hacked into my hosts, too (as per my hosts page here on-site) but while it's convenient, it still doesn't give you that "outside" view, for that you need a proxy. For regular web development, either is fine.
And yeah, almost two thousand comments at the moment I think. crazy!
Chivs, Bael speaks the truth!
;o)
Update,
I have removed all traces of the btyahoo software but still had the same problem.
I had a call from btyahoo to check that everything was working ok. I explained that there was a problem using the ethernet port on the router (the response was "what is a router, and what is an ethernet port (i'm glad they train their staff))
they put me through to technical help (to someone who they said was SH** hot) his response was that since service pack 2 came out for win xp many problems have occured with connection to lan cards.
I explained that i can connect via the lan card to other pc's via my hub and also connect to an old compaq server. I suggested that i did not think that the problem was within the network card.
To clear any doubts i swapped the network card and the problem remained.
His response was "maybe you could search the internet to find if there are any web sites which may help" Good Hey?
So my next plan is to contact BTYahoo and tell them to send a new router, if that does the same thing they can send a diferent router.
Thanks for all your help peter
rgs
keith dixon
Keith - thanks for the update. Sorry you have not been successful. Wish I could see for myself what's happening - I've got lots of resources here (in terms of networks, spare or duplicate gear etc.). I live in Cornwall - you don't live just down the road from me do you??
I've had the same sort of problems, over lots of issues, with BT - they surely dont select for intelligence when they hire!
Best wishes
Peter
Bael (and Cor),
Many thanks for the comments. I'll investigate the switch option (any recommendations?). However, I can't use static IPs as one of my PCs is a laptop that I share between home and work. I assume that dynamic IPs isn't the underlying problem here.
I think the Voyager has a fundamental bug with AoE comms. If this is an issue with the USB port then the switch solution works otherwise I'm snookered.
I'm a bit reluctant to spend ~£30 on a switch to get around a bug in the router that will still be there when I want to play on the Internet! Grrrr.
Hi Chiv - There's nothing stopping you having two different network connections defined, one for home and one for work, one static - the other dhcp client.
Best rgds
Pete
thanks, what a great guide!
@Keith
The 169.254.xxx.xxx IP address and the netmask 255.255.0.0 look like the types of addresses supplied when XP gets totally confused about its network configuration (configuration/conflicts/hardware faults), its default range being 192.xxx.xxx.xxx (unless told otherwise).
Using 'ipconfig /release' then 'ipconfig /renew' at the command prompt () may help, although it may throw an error and give further insight into the issue. If you use 'ipconfig' before and after, you should be able to see if this makes any changes to the IP address.
Can anyone help me with the router randomly disconnecting
i have ethernet
stealthed
and everything else you said to do on your site can you help me ?
hi. how do i open up a range of tcp ports? i need to open the following range of ports 6891- 6899
Just a reminder for when plugging in your network cables...
The 205 is a hub/switch (though with only one port?!), so in order to connect it to another hub/switch, you either need to been connecting it to a switch that supports automatic MDI/MDI-X crossover detection, has an uplink port, or use a crossover cable.
having forgotten this, i did spend some time wondering why my ethernet light wouldn't come on and the 205 appear on the network...
Hi,
When I set up port forwarding I usually have any given ipf rule number equate to the port number in question. Yesterday I needed to set up port forwarding on port 5678 for both tcp AND udp. I made ipf rules 5678 (tcp) and 5679 (udp) and everything works... but it seems a bit messy. It's no real bother but can I combine these two rules into one?
Thanks,
Martin.
Hi guys.
I know you might think am THICK or something but i have read all this stuff on here and am still no further forward :( i dont know to much about tech stuff and cant quite follow it all. My problem is.. i play mohaa spearhead on line but when i go to the browse servers list it only gives me about 130-140 servers out of about 1400 i was with telewest before am now with BT i have never had this prob before. my settings are the same as they have always been for this game. I phone bt and they said i had to configure my bt voyager 205 adsl router to get them all and he did not know or tell me how to do this. Any help would be greatful appreceited.
Thanks
A handy way to swap between a static ip (at home) and a dynamic ip (at work) on a windows machine (xp anyway) :-
open notepad and paste in the following 3 bold lines:-
netsh interface ip set address "glynnet Connection" static 192.168.1.4 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.1 1
netsh interface ip set dns "glynnet Connection" static 192.168.1.1
netsh interface ip add dns "glynnet Connection" 212.159.11.150
save this as tostatic.bat or whateveryoulike.bat and store it on your desktop. Then just click it to set your static ip settings. You will need to change "glynnet connection" to the name of your network interface as viewed in network connections.
view the tcp/ip properties and you will find
ip address = 192.168.1.4
subnet mask = 255.255.255.0
default gateway = 192.168.1.1
preferred dns = 192.168.1.1
alternate dns = 212.159.11.150
the final 1 is the gwmetric for the gateway which I dont fully understand (problems problems) but is something to do with the speed of access via the gateway and which I think doesnt matter too much if you haven't got multiple interfaces with multiple gateways. (could be wrong here)
To change back to dynamic create a second file with the following two lines:-
netsh interface ip set address "glynnet connection" dhcp
netsh interface ip set dns "glynnet Connection" dhcp
save this as todynamic.bat on your desktop and click it to change back to dynamic.
anyway it works for me and hopefully it will save someone else some precious seconds
To waste those precious seconds you can follow this link to see what else you can adjust this way :-
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/netsh.mspx
I like this site so much I have ordered a 205 to replace my 220v issued by bt.
cheers
Hi Cor,
About the post of September 7: will do, in a day or two!
http://corz.org/blog/inc/smileys/cool.gif
Is there anyway to turn this 205 into a modem so it wont route.
Currently I have this router on 192.168.1.1 plugged into a linksys wireless router to which it assigns 192.168.1.4.
I have set the lan address of the router to 192.168.0.1 and use the linksys to dhcp address's to the wireless and wired computers connected to it.
I have tried setting the linksys in a dmz so no rules apply to it but am not able to get full speed from any p2p though if i dl through a web page or ftp its very fast.
When i was with ntl its modem assigned the router a external 80.x.x.x address and i could then use the router to port forward etc with great results.
What i would like to do is be able to assign static ips to all the computers so that i can set up proper port forwarding and so its easier to vnc o them as their ips wont change. I have played with this all day and the only viable solution seems to be to bin the 205 and get a plain adsl ethernet modem.
any help most welcome
mark
Alan, I had similar troubles with neverwinter nights servers..luckily Bael helped me out (THANKS BAEL)
Maybe these setting will help you too..
Telnet into your router and login.
type or paste in these two commands...
modify nbsize maxipsess 512
modify nat global tcpidletimeout 400 tcpclosewait 15 tcptimeout 10 udptimeout 10 enable
Hope it helps..Roo
I tried that Roo.
Still the same. i think i should just get rid of bt and try another isp.
If you or anyone else can help me out i would be glad listen and to try anything.
Thanks Roo.
I feel for ya keith, fortunately I haven't had to phone BT for a very long time, and when I do, I got a number that gets you straight through to folk who do actually know what a router is. (I drop this information in every now and again in case someone feels like emailing me for that number!) I feel Peter's frustration, too, that feeling that if one could just get in and have a rake about, one could do something. you'll get there.
Chivs, I use static AND dynamic. My fixed machines use a fixed IP, and there's a pool of dynamic IP's (192.168.1.50 - 192.168.1.99) for guests, laptops, etc. It's a good system, and already plugged into all the "ready-made" configs in the archive, check it out.
By the way, AoE is one of the few games I've spent more than ten minutes playing, if you fancy tring out a test of some sort, I'd be game (pun intended), feel free to get in touch.
But first get a switch. They are much of a muchness these days (so long as it has auto-sensing and what-not), any unit from the Useful Linked page (above) would do the job, we're talking £10-£15. And believe me, it's an investment, I've often said that my switch is the best piece of puter equipment I ever bought, and that's absolutely true; networking without a good switch is unthinkable to me. It will last you years and years.
Nick, try opening a telnet session to the router and leaving it open. Watch for interesting messages (APART from those VC Congested messages we all get every minute or so)
alex, check the recipes page, torrent rules.
Martin, you can combine ipf rules, but not nat. So long as you have some sort of system and stick to it, everything is fine. I use the next number, too. Seriously, I can't remember the last time I actually looked at any of my firewall rules, so their messiness isn't an issue.
alan, have you seen my mohaa "ready-made" config in the archive? check the links above these comments.
Podgyhodgy, And on a mac you do apple menu >> Location. Makes you think, huh?
mark, load the page with all comments and search for "zipb mode". <- pasted text. when you get it working, feel free to write a wee tutorial
for now..
;o)
ps.. no hurry Bicéphale!
Hi again,
After many phonecalls with Bt i final got the line fixed and an upgrade! But the next problem is that i can't seem to get port forwarding to work at all for limewire or Azureus. I've gone over this site so many times (including the troubleshooter) but no matter what i do, grc.com always says the ports are stealthed and i'm getting slow download rates.For instance in Limewire I've created nat rules:
create nat rule entry ruleid 6346 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.100 lcladdrto 192.168.1.100 destportfrom num 6346 destportto num 6346
and the Firewall rules:
create ipf rule entry ruleid 6346 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq tcp destport eq num 6346 seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 6346 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq udp destport eq num 6346 seclevel high medium low
plus all the other tweaks mentioned and i do everything like it says such as having the program running while you test and no other firewalls running etc.. but still no luck!
With Azureus i get a lot of pop-up errors regarding the port i'm trying to forward and when i run a test in azureus it says nat error. i've tried deleting the rules and trying again but still get the same results. With your port probe i get "no route to host". I'm probably missing out something really simple but i've tried soo much and its getting really annoying!
Thanks Charlie
charlie, try this. Instructions for use inside the archive, and here.
;o)
ps.. do you really have your machine at 192.168.1.100? if so, you'll need to edit the default+p2p config to match, it is setup for a machine at 192.168.1.3
Hi everyone. I've been playing with ZIPB mode after I found out about it here, and thought I'd just leave an account of my adventures in the hope it will fill in some of the blanks in the comments and help someone else in a similar situation.
For those who haven't come across it, as I understand it the aim of ZIPB mode is to have the router set the IP address of a machine to the dialup external IP address(es) via DHCP, and then sits there as an externally invisible node, effectively putting the machine directly onto the internet.
I'll start with some useful sources of information:
Voyager 205 help page; step by step guide to setting up ZIPB mode (at bottom): http://192.168.1.1/hag/help/system_mode.htm
Documentation: http://corz.org/public/docs/comms/router/BT.Voyager.205.ref.guide.pdf
Google searches for 'ZIPB' and 'half bridge' (ZIPB mode is also apparently known as half-bridged by other ADSL manufacturers)
Cor pointed at the System Mode page, http://192.168.1.1/MainPage?id=31, where there is an option to enable ZIPB. Submitting this page did not seem to work when trying to enable ZIPB. However, it does correctly reflect the current ZIPB status, and has a link to a helpful help page (listed above).
Now, my setup. I have a linux server and (for various reasons which I won't bother going into here) I want it to sit on the outside of my network with my external IP, and provide NAT access for my other machines. It has two NICs, one for my LAN and one for my Voyager 205, in the arrangement LAN - eth0:Server:eth1 - Voyager 205. eth0 is the network 10.0.0.0, and eth1 is 10.0.1.0. My Voyager has the IP 10.0.1.1.
The steps to set up ZIPB:
1. Ensure DHCP server is enabled:
- Ensure there is something in the DHCP server pool with poolid=0
- It should have at least one local IP for the server
- It should have the gateway IP as the Voyager LAN IP.
Because the external IP is given to my server via DHCP, the Voyager must have the DHCP server enabled. The local IP is given to the server if the external IP is not currently available. My personal options are: Start: 10.0.1.3, End: 10.0.1.254, Gateway: 10.0.1.1.
2. Disable NAT
3. Enable ZIPB mode
- As mentioned before, I'm not sure that the web interface works
- Telnet to the voyager, log in and type:
4. Set PPP interface 'Status' to 'StartOnData'
This is recommended so that it will only come up when the ethernet connection is up.
5. Save settings
6. Make sure your machine is set to be a DHCP client
I believe there's a way to plug your voyager into your hub/switch and give one specific machine your external IP and all your other machines local IPs, but since my server has two NICs this wasn't an issue.
To test it, I plugged the Voyager into a Windows XP machine to see what would happen, and, after persuading it to request a new IP address, it worked perfectly. The Voyager sent the external IP (81.x.x.x), the ISP gateway (195.x.x.x) and a subnet mask (255.0.0.0). Although the ISP gateway was outside the network of the interface, Windows didn't seem to care, and the machine was out on the internet.
After rebooting the Voyager to make it forget it had given the external IP to a different MAC address, I swapped the cable over to my linux server, and when I brought up the interface it was given the right IP. However, Linux seems to be a bit more particular about its routing rules, and refused to route out to the ISP gateway. This left me with no routing rules to the internet. Adding a new default route to the interface worked fine though, with the command on my server:
As expected, traceroute into the server does not show the Voyager, although traceroute out does, and the Voyager intercepts traffic destined for its network and is available at 10.0.1.1 from inside my LAN.
It has been working fine now for most of the past couple of weeks. However, when there was a power cut the system didn't come back up properly - the external IP address was not passed to the server correctly, so I had to restart the interface to re-request it. I have not had time to test it again since, but if I find it's repeatable and can find the cause and/or solution, I will post an update here.
Hope this helps!
Excellent stuff radiac! I'm going to have to grab this before it scrolls away, put it somewhere more visible. many thanks!
;o)
No really i do!!! i cant understand any of that.
OK IVE GOTA SOLUTIONS TO SUMIT
Ive had problems forwarding ports etc for stuff,
Now i did everything perfect, cos im good like that :P and it still didnt work.
OK SO WINDOWS ARSEWALL!!!! if you check it, it can tell you its off.
BUT THE MOTHER STICKER AINT!!!
Goto some of the other settings, the tabs along the top.... LOCAL AREA NETWORK is an exception to it. so really the GAYWALL is on.
Anyway, i turned it off, and walah everything was NAT TASTIC
or you could just disable the service required for it to work at all...by pressing the windows key + R and typing services.msc <enter>
then disable the "windows firewall/internet connection sharing" service...also disable UPnP + SSDP while you're there :P
Bael
Ahh.. Bael, you took the words right out of my LOAF!
But your right VINNY, it's a solution that deserves a better airing, I'll likely add a wee note to the troubleshooter page about this. [done]
l*rz..
;o)
Hi, i'm having trouble configuring the Voyager to work with Azureus using your own firewall and nat recipe ie
firewall:
create ipf rule entry ruleid 49210 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq tcp destport eq num 49210 seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 49211 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq udp destport eq num 49210 seclevel high medium low
nat:
create nat rule entry ruleid 49210 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.100 lcladdrto 192.168.1.100 destportfrom num 49210 destportto num 49210
Obviously i have substituted the IP address for the address of my workstation. I am using Panda f/wall software and am wondering whether this could be the problem. Azureus gives a NAT error - nothing more descriptive than that. Your own port probe gives "connection refused" despite the above rules in place.
The other issue i have is with Limewire. After using your ready made config files i have now got this working and downloading fine via port 6346. However nobody can upload from me. Am i doing something wrong? If i can download then why cant anyone upload or do i need to open a separate port to enable this? Appreciate any advice you can give.
Thanks for all the info, youve put up here. I think iv'e finally got it working after many an hour. The main problem was it kept dropping out, when I was on eMule. I had the same problem with torrents, but I can't get torrents to work at all now
I would make you a donation, but I think i'm going to have to use what little cash i have to go back to a standard modem. Iv'e got half an hour to try and get Azureus working before a modem goes on eBay. If i can get it online, i'll drop you a donation.
Good luck with your work
David
My internet line drops out every 4-5mins. I am using the 205voyager modem and have been downgraded from 2mb to 1mb internet.
Any idea how to sort the problem out?
BT are useless so I'm counting on a decent response
Rick
David looks to me like you are maxxing out your connections.....first of enter this in a telnet session with your router
that raises your max connections to 512....now you need to disable KAD ( if you have it enabled that is) in e-mule, and modify your settings in both azureus and e-mule...so that they share a max upload of say 20kbps.....the voyager can only handle about 25kbps and its best to leave some spare for browsing etc.....if you try uploading faster than 25kbps it will kill your download speed. Hope ths helps :)
Rick actually read the site...before asking for help.....my guess is you're either:
-connected to your computer by usb
-don't have any rules in place
-are uploading at a rate faster than 25kbps
-have the UPnP + SSDP services enabled
-have a firewall active
hell just read the site...and all will be well..if you're still having trouble after that..then come post here...
Bael
JJ, this sounds simply like your firewall is blocking incoming connexions. disable ALL firewalls and test again (the voyager has a firewall built-in, you can leave that on)
Rick, even just this page! By the way, why did you get downgraded? That's an unusual thing, generally it's the other way around.
for now..
;o)
ps..KAD is still running great on top of everything else!
Great site, lots of good advice.
I do have a question about setting up the 205 with a Linksys WRTG54G wireless router and World of Warcraft (or any other port forwarding). I have disabled the firewall on the Linksys and it has IP 192.168.1.3 while the 205 is 192.168.1.1 If I forward whatever ports are appropriate to the Linksys IP from the 205 will that in effect forward them to all the other PCs on the network that are working with those ports?
Thanks,
D
Dloader, see radiac's comment about zipb mode (above - some real html to follow -promise!), that's probably more useful to you if you run a second router. Then you can do all your port-forwarding stuff on the Linksys, whilst still benefitting from the 205's firewall features.
have fun!
;o)
I use a BT Voyager 205 router to connect to x box. I cannott hear certain people in games and have been told by BT that my x box settings are showing my NT number as 3 this needs to be changed to 1 to be able to hear all players. Does anyone know how to do this please?
Thanks cor,
I did see that about zipb mode and thought that it would help. My main concern (which I didn't mention in my op) is that from what I understand you can't forward the same ports to multiple IPs without the potential for problems. I was hoping I had stumbled on a work around where the 205 forwards to the router and it sorts out the traffic control.
Is this really a concern or can I set up rules on the Linksys forwarding the same ports to multiple IPs?
Thanks,
D
I play command & conquer generals online gaming,with 2 friends,but it always takes numerous attempts (10+) for all 3 of us to connect,sometimes we try for over an hour.I have a voyager 205 router (they do not)when they play each other they connect no problem,the problems arise when I want to connect to them.Is this because of my router?,I have been told to change to my ethernet cable?,do you have any advice please
Scott Tabor, Bael will probably have a better idea than me, well, definitely, in fact.
Dloader, in zipb mode, the linksys would become the internet gateway, and it would catch ALL the traffic, so you can create port-forwarding rules on the Linksys. I'm presuming it can do this sort of thing.
Forwarding the same port to multiple IP's is problematic, period, but not impossible. The voyager can do it out of the box, but the distribution is in a "round-robbin" fashion, the idea being to distribute load between a number of servers.
If you are looking to have multiple games machines all listening on the same ports, the results would be unpredictable to say the least. Perhaps the Linksys can do it differently, though I don't know about that.
;o)
ps.. zipb section now added to tricks page!
ANDY see here
;o)
Hi, I enabled the default p2p + config thing, after figuring out what ftp is and how to use it! (i checked the nat rules on the router page and they were there so i know it installed). However still no luck, i tried deleting the NAT rules then testing on grc.com, to see if i had another firewall like you said but it said the ports where still "stealth". Limewire tends to be a lot quicker and easier than azureus as on the torrent program the downloads are soo slow and most files are corrupted but i'd like to be able to use it :-).
Thanks, Charlie
ps. i also can't get your little smileys to work!!
you did have the program that uses the ports runnign before trying to probe them with shields up right? and you're so wrong lol.....one setup right....you can get much faster DL speeds with BT...atleast i can...fastest i've had with Bit Torrent is 255kbps.....which i don't think should even be possible with a 2mb connection lol (right cor?) and i've had around 200kbps with limewire....if yuo read everything on this site...maybe even just this page and the trouble shooting page you'll fix it yourself with ease :P
btw.. you mean these smileys?
heheh
Bael
ahh feck! I musta have hit some unknown keyboard shortcut and repeated whatever I did last (which was delete all those bloody duplicates!) the upshot of which is I lost my (almost finished) comment, and wiped Bael's last one entirely! sorry dude! I re-inserted it, I think only the time should be different.
I'm not even going to bother to start the comment again, Charlie, you have a firewall running. maybe in your BIOS, maybe Norton, give us the full details of your setup, including the local IP of your computer, and work your way through the troubleshooter, slowly, moving to the next item only after answering YES!
;o)
Hmmm..
Y'all might want to take a look at what just came through my letterbox..
interesting.
;o)
COR, sorry for being dense,but does the problem with connecting to other online players lie with my voyager 205?,its frustrating as hell when we spend about about an hous trying tring to connect,(then I lose!!)also I ahve turn off my virus guard fire wall to allow me to go online
ANDY (you like CAPS, I don't) in answer to your question, yes, the problem almost certainly lies with your router. you are expecting to receive inbound connexion attempts, your router won't allow it. think "security".
Now read the page, follow the instructions, check out the game ports link, make a note of those ports, create some port-forwarding rules for them, and you're done.
;o)
ps.. note all: you can now edit your comments (right up until someone else posts, or your browser session dies, whichever comes first), amongst other improvements to "that comment thing".
i can see and view web pages but when i enter 192.168.1.1 into the browser it comes up cant find page but internet is working fine how can i forward my ports for faster speed if i cant access the router i am using the bt voyager adsl 205 with ethernet i am getting no speed at all any help would be great cheers
Hi, its me again and before you run away in fear, everything seems to work fine now!! (plus i figured out how to use the smileys
Thanks sooo much with this page and the help(seriously this web address should be included in the manual from bt)
Charlie
ps. Bael your right, bittorrent is soo much faster than limewire
heheh i got that letter too :P though mine only went upto 20gb :@ (comes with bieng poor)i think my friend was saying the other day about telewest doubling the speed for all their users...dunno if it's tru tho xD thinkin of switching to telewest too lol...then i can get rid of the landline phone...don't use it and i'm paying line rental for it xD
Charlie don't worry boutt he triple post :P i used to do it all the time xD it happens when you refresh the page after posting a comment....just click the feedback button in the top right to reload instead :P glad you got your problem sorted...but you sure it's completely done lol? if it's still saying the ports are stealthes something's up ;) instead of sheilds up, try cor's port probe.....and make sure you have the app open before trying to probe ;) ie if you want to probe 6346 for limewire...limwire HAS to be running when you do it :P
Bael
edit: just wanted to play with the edit feature lol xD
Grrr.. Done all the recommended stuff (bit of a noob) and general web surfing and downloading works fine, but whenever I connect to a server on an online game (or try to) more often than not the WHOLE internet connection goes down, and I have to restart the router to get it working again. Quite irritating. Have opened the appropriate port for the game, still disconnects me though... Any ideas?
Hi, I think my problem may be my BT line but I'd welcome your opinion.
I've been through your main page and carried out all the instructions, stealthed, static IP, disabled firewall in XP (but I don't know if there's a bios firewall - how can I tell?) etc - the whole thing.
I'm connected via ethernet.
My problem is that my connection fails approx every 5 minutes for a few seconds and then reconnects automatically.
I'm pasting below my telnet print out and wonder if this reveals anything - I'd be grateful to know.
I'd also be appreciative of help with ftp (to check my modifications)
I've tried to ftp by ftp://192.168.1.1 but I get an error message 530 Not Logged In. Could you please tell me how to log in.
Thanks for any help.
Paul
Here's the Telnet print-out:
<snipped -ed>
Paul, it certainly looks like it's your line that's at fault, to be sure, you might want to upload one of the ready-made configs, with the ppp tweaks and what-not installed.
As for the ftp, remember you'll need to use your admin user/password to connect. Watch out for your listing command, too, the voyager doesn't like the usual "LIST -AL", but prefers plain "LIST" (no quotes).
Gray, timing tweaks, make them *really* small. and watch those max connexions.
cg, can you access it via telnet?
Charlie, great news! don't worry about the multiple-posting, it won't be so easy to do now anyways. I just delete them, and you're right, the "Oh I'm sorry for the triple-post!" is just one more annoying deletion for me!
And right again, BitTorrent is "da shitz". In fact, it's so fast and so efficient that you are likely to bust your monthly download limit in a week.
And that's what worries me about the BT letter, everywhere I've seen this change reported it's all "oh happy days! We get another 10GB a month", which seems to me to be missing the point entirely.
The facts..
- BT will NOT allow you to monitor your bandwidth usage
- BT will NOT warn you when you have exceeded your limit
- BT will, without warning, bill you an unspecified amount for "excess" usage, or..
- BT will, at their discretion, terminate your service.
(it seems they were technically incapable of implementing this feature and so have scrapped it)
Is everyone asleep? HELLO! I mean, is this even legal?
;o)
cor,
Thanks for the tip. I'll give it a try next week and see how the forwarding to multiple IPs work and let you know.
Paul,
We get a similiar problem to you when the weather is bad. We are fairly far out in the country and a good distance from the nearest switch. I have noticed that if the attenuation on my line goes over 61.5dB I get periodic drops. Not too much problem when surfing as it reconnects right away but kicks you out of games. Funny (or not so) is that as long as it is at 61dB the line is fine...
D
No problem DLoader, a NAT rule that specifies multiple IP's would get the whole thing rolling..
especially note the bold text (you'd need a firewall rule too, of course).
Question: in zipb mode, the computer behind the voyager gets the external IP of the voyager, but, what if you have multiple computers?.
I did a wee zipb test the other day when I put the section in the tricks page, but only with a single machine. So long as the machines in your LAN have their own security arrangements, this might also be an interesting path of experimentation. Perhaps all the machine would get the same external IP and ergo, every machine receives ALL the incoming packets. Anyone tried this?
Paul, how's your internal wiring? Often the wiring in the consumer box leaves a lot to be desired, especially if the property has ever changed telecoms suppliers. This probably goes against BT policy, but it might be worth taking a wee look inside, and refitting any connexions that look dodgy. That goes for DLoader, too. Every little helps, and that half decibel is all it takes, the straw that breaks the Camel's back.
for now..
;o)
TCP
22042-22050
UDP
6500, 13139, 22043-22050
btw...cor i think BT blocked access to your site for their support technicians lol xD cus i had to phone em up yesterday, as everytiem there's a thunderstorm where i live, my connection screws up :@ anyway....we got to talkin bout why i wasn't connected by USB lol, and he couldn't access corz.org xD
same thing happens to me DLoader :(
humm testing the double post thing lol^^ my guess is it didn't goto plan xD
och well, you know, I only tested it like a hundred times. weird. I plan to rewrite that part at some point, currently it relies on the user's session being fresh, and this server seems to delete those very frequently, possibly what's what happened to yours. At any rate, some future version won't care about your current session. "future" being the operative word.
almost releated; I've been reading up on "Fibre To The Curb", apparently most of the major cities have fibre lines running right into every street (some drab grey box at the end of it, for cable) and it doesn't seem like it would be a great deal of work to take that just a few feet further, into the houses. Then we'd have LAN-speed internet access, faster, even.
All this talk of thunderstorms bringing down the internet just seems so archaic, so twentieth century. If anyone's heard of any UK trials of this FTTC technology, I'd be very keen to see more details. Seems like a golden business opportunity for some forward-thinking companies, too.
for now..
;o)
ps.. so, you guys are saying that, seriously, the BT Technicians don't get access to the org? man! that's fuxedup! I mean, don't they want these guys to learn anything?
Can someone with a BT Voyager 205 please tekll me the voltage and rating of the power supply unit? I've lost the power supply and need to find a replacement....
Thanks.
Hi, cor, i have a problem with emule (or router), whenever i start emule, i cannot open any website, it jus wont connect. i have opend ports for emule, all firewalls are off. when emule is off, all's fine
bt voyager 205, win xp home.
thanks for your help.
Graham, input 230V-50Hz 140 mA, output 16V-1A
Hi. I do evrything that is write on this site and I've got a problem with my eMule. He is running 20 maybe 30 minutes and then he cancel every connection even with a server. And it's hapend every time when I use eMule. Do you know what is?
Szklarz, try entering the following commands in the telnet session to your voyager:
modify nbsize maxipsess 512
modify nat global udptimeout 10
commit
I had the same problems with my voyager and emule and since entering these commands it has worked PERFECTLY.
Good luck.
BAM and how much do you have in the max. connetcion limit?
Yo, guess whos back :P lol. Hi cor, jus wondering a few things here.
1st of all being is im now using bit tornado and for it you need like ports 6881 to 6999 so ive opened them, But sometimes i still get a yellow light, i use ur port scanner and it says 6881 is open when im running a torrent but 6882 - 6999 it says connection refused.
Is that because im not using those ports or because they arnt workin?
2nd thing is that i used to use azureus because it rocked lol. But since an update a while back it jus wont work for me. I know it uses udp and tcp also and i get green light just i get no speed wat so ever and i cant open webpages :S
Got any suggestions? Thx in advance :P
This really isnt good, ive tried everything on the site and my connection still freezes when i load up emule/shareaza after 10 mins, so confused, Broadband used to work perfectly when i was using the old Voyager USB modem, any ideas?
cor,Me again,when I eventually do the port fowarding on my router what rule do I use?,Is it nat RULE ? All I want to do is play online games with no hassle thanks
How do i make i nice little list of command that i can sorta zap to my router without having to cut and paste all the time? if it says how somewhere in the comments then i apologise for not looking properly!
Hi, love the site has helped when bt staff wanna do nowt! however, i have a problem which i cannot find a solution for, my router (ethernet connected) cannot and will not stay connected sometimes itll go for hours othertimes 5 minutes before i have to turn it off and back on again!! bt want me to plug it in to the house master plug and watch the lights for a couple of hours just in case one flickers which would mean i need a new one apparently! anyway, i am wondewring if you might know why i am loosing my connection all the time?
cheers
Is this how u force host on halo2 xbox live
It's me again. I've got still problems with my eMule ;( Sometime its connect for houres and nothing hapends, but then is disconnecting from a serwer :( I don't know what to do. I'm connecting it with an ethernet cable and I've got the max connetcion configurate on me router to 512, I,ve got high Id but when I'm doing a test port in the option I've got faild UDP test :( I've got all the rules for tcp and udp. If someone know to fix it?
cheers
Hi! I love the site, xtremely useful information on Voyager 205. I just wanna know y does my broadband connection drop out every 3-5 mins even tho i dont have satellite TV, i've switched around microfilters, it's plugged in2 the main socket...etc (the standard procedure stuffs..). The drop out occurs most often when I start using Bitcomet. Please help, it's really pissing me off....
Also, since u guyz strongly discourage people using the USB connection, I stopped using it and instead tried to connect a wiresless router using the ethernet cable so i can lan + share internet wiv 2 of my laptops. However, the attempt failed....please enlighten me!!!!
Hi, now dat i've read ppl's comments n found out many experiences the same thing as i do..which is, CANT bloody stay connected!! The connection drops every 3-5 mins! BT staff cant help, nor their site..brothers..anyone got a solution!?!?! need help, this is pissing me off!! Cant even use bitcomet!!
Hello Cor & all,
Ive been wondering for a few days now, is it a good idea to upgrade the 205's firmware to the latest version 1.8? Im currently using the original firmware, if upgrading is ok does it give any improvements ?
Thx ;)
Cor...... Glad I found your page!!! What an insight, it's got me back into programming again after a few years away from studying Mechatronics at Abertay..
A few questions for you thou....
run thru the 205 page step by step as my bt abc was running at 5kbs. set everything up as you wrote, correct ports and kept my firewall up. (6 hackers in 5 mins is not a good sign).
Thought I had it nailed...then checked abc again....no f***in change!!!
Changed my ports form 6881-6899 to 16881-16889 as rumour has it certain groups are not allowing any comm to/from these ports, still no change!! After a whole night surfing, reading, tweeking XP for my tcp limit I'm still no further forward!!!!!!
Please can you help a fellow Scot who's just about to launch his new pc thru the living room window and return to the mindless xbox.
P.S How can I program a blooming ROV, with full working applications, in several differnt lang's and get stumped by a wee rectangle box with a few ports and 4 lights on it??? Answers on a post card please to Glen Michaels Cartoon Cavalcade ;)
P.P.S I know a top broadband design engineer for a well known british broadband suppiler, who has informed me that IT's IMPOSSIBLE with current technology to monitor the full usage of any broadband connection. The company 'just' added the limits onto it's packages to stop people going crazy and downloading 24/7......this info was recently passed to a friend who got his money back after several huge bill's!! This company, if threatened with court action's after stating the above, will back down, as they don't want it to become common knowledge.
GKW
damn! I could have sworn I made a post here yesterday! Add that to the list of "things that vanished when Firefox crashed". I really work that browser too hard. Although now that Opera is free I might see if I can share the workload a bit.
Och well, Mick, it was mostly for you. Briefly (because I've forgotten most of what I said) I'd stick with azzy if I were you. The last three (automatic) updates for me have been sticky and I've had to put the jar file in manually for it to work correctly. As you know, Azzy does all it's magic on one single port.
Perhaps deleting the preferences file (azureus.config) and allowing it to rebuild a new one from scratch would help you. Perhaps first going slowly through all the new preferences would be a good idea.
But if you sdtick with the other client, remember, if you want to test 18 ports, you'll need 18 torrents running, it will use one port per torrent. Anyway, even one single green light means the router is 100% and you can forget all about it for now (you did
commityeah?), don't let the odd bad torrent convince you that the voyager needs "tweaking"!Golf_bloke, Szklarz, check out the troubleshooting page.
ANDY, different games use different ports, check the useful links section for a page with all the ports for all the games, then use the generic rule on the recipes page to create a rule (or set of rules) for your game, replacing the port numbers with the new ones. remember also to set the IP address to that of the machine running the game.
Check out the ready-made scripts, there's a couple of game setups there, perhaps you could adapt one (and mail me the finished article so I can put it up!)
Rodders, NO ONE is expected to read through all the comments! There's over two thousand of the buggers now! Head along to the archives and check out the RAD scripts. These are simple shell scripts that allow you to script telnet sessions to your router. Simply replace the individual command lines with whatever you need. These are available for UNIX (linux, OS X, etc) and (you sure did hear it here first) Windows. No extra tools required except a text editor and the OS's built-in telnet client.
Well dave, BT have the right idea in that they want you to gather information, but sitting looking at a router's LEDs for hours without blinking just to see it they do seems like a bit of a tall order.
(mike, read this also. most disconnexion troubles are simply folk using USB, ands switching to ethernet fixes it.) Install on of my ready-made scripts first, just to be sure it's not some weird configuration issue.
If you open a telnet session with the router and leave it open you *may* get some better information as to why it's disconnecting. Another thing to look at is the DSL Parameters (see pop-out selectors above to get to that page), or do
get dsl configin a telnet session. You may get some milieage from applying a some tweaks there, attenuation levels, etc. Attaching the 205 to the Master Socket is a good idea, a lot of house wiring isn't up to scratch.What are your SNR and attenuation figures anyway? (
get dsl params)effffffe, how do you WHAT?
Ace, I recommend (and use) v1.6
Great news groundskeeper, it's always good to keep a hand in, coding skills are never wasted!
As to your broadband, first disable ALL firewalls. The voyager's firewall is 100% solid, and you don't really need another, certainly not at the setting up stage.
Next, upload one of my ready-made configs. These are a great starting point for any tweaking you might want to do. You would probably be best off with the default+p2p config.
Next, Install Azzy (Azureus), all other BitTorrent clients pale in comparison. As I've often mentioned, it uses only one port for ALL its activity, and also I can answer questions about its setup (not a small consideration)
have fun!
;o)
ps.. many thanks for the info groundskeeper, I'll keep that in mind when I reply to this crazy letter.
pps.. throwing peecees out of windows is a bad idea, you always regret it, and there's a high chance a passer-by will get decapitated.
Hi, it's me again.. basically right..I've stopped using the USB connection but connection still drops n i still cant use bitcomet! also, u reckon it's beta for me to actually change to Voyager 2001 wireless router so i can have 2 laptops lanned instead of using voyager 205? I do have a wireless router but dunno how to config it to work with voyager 205!!
I have a voyager 205 router. Can I just plug in 2 computers (one on the ethernet connection and on on the USB connection) and go on the www at both computers at the same time?
HI, me again..
I've followed everything on the site on telnetting me router.. n I found two problems..
firstly, even tho i have every security programmes disabled and bitcomet working, when i used the corz port probe on the site and entered the port listened by bitcomet(working!!) it says connection refused!
secondly, i cant choose primary connection for winmx!! n the reasons they gave me were no tcp + no in/out udp port! but i've opened them!!
i'm not using usb conenction!
Hmm, another problem is that my download rate using bitcomet drops to 0 then goes backup and then drops again...y!??!?!
Mike, did you upload one of the ready-made configs? (also, did you read the bit above about this and the signal levels?)
If you have a second router, take a look at the zipb section on the tricks page, this might be just what you need.
Walter, technically yes, but in practice it can be extremely problematic. When both are connected, the USB seems to take priority, and as USB networking is itself problematic, the end result is usually not satisfactory.
Better idea, get a switch, it will cost around ten bucks. (see Useful Links section - above)
;o)
I copied n paste the commands from the NAT rule page n changed the values n ips... the download rate just keep dropping n comming back on...BT fixed the problem on me line already and they cant detect no faults! They dont no wt's wrong wiv me router or connection...
Switch? How does a switch work?
Hi cor,
I see some of my zipb stuff made it to your tricks page! Nice, nice :)
You asked:
My understanding is that if your ISP is one of those friendly ones who will give you a block of IPs, your voyager can pass those IPs on to the machines on your LAN by using the same DHCP voodoo-trickery it uses for a single IP, and all your LAN machines will be sitting on the internet with valid external IPs. I used to have an ISP that did this, and it worked rather well - not with a voyager 205 though I'm afraid, so I'm no help there.
If you only have one external IP though, your voyager 205 will only assign that once, to one machine - after that, it will start giving out unused IP addresses from pool 0. That might cause interesting problems - since one machine would have the external IP address and everything else would have your LAN IPs, it would be on a different subnet, with no valid route between the subnets?
I read about zipb mode thing, sounds exactly wt i need in order for me 2nd router to work..however, how do i change voyager 205 in2 zipb mode?!
plz ignore my last comment on zipb mode...
HI, i've followed instructions n got voyager 205 in2 zipb mode. Also, i config me router to obtain WAN ip from automatically by DHCP. However, it still doesnt work! Both of my laptops cant detect internet connection. HELP!
Hi.
I have a voyager 205 and a Asus WL500g router. They worked fine together until one day...from that on the modem always drops the internet connection after some seconds when it's connected to the router.
If it's connected to only one computer it usually works fine, unless it has been connected to the router before that (it seems it enters a "drop connections" mode or something).
Even if I try to share the net from the main computer without the router, the connection dies after some seconds or minutes.
I hope you can help me solve this. Maybe the heat has damaged it...before I had to have a fan blowing into the modem and now I have heatsinks.
thanx for that cor but ummmm....how do i go about all this ive got your shell file rad.sh an u say in it to "drop" a line of txt into your PATH which path and where??? the limit of my programing type knowledge wud be poking around in Visual basic as a kid an that aint really helping me here .
The next bit says make it an executable how do i make a txt file or sh file into an executable??
tired and confused will await your answer and come back to this then the days of sitting for hours trying to get this router to work nice an friendly are over now i just have a bash for a bit an then leave it b4 i feel the urge to throw it out the window or do something far worse!
cheers for this site keep up the good work.
Hi cor, hows things, been hectic here since we last spoke but by the looks of it its been hectic in here as well. I noticed that there seems to be a lot of disconnection issues at the mo are these peeps using 1.8 firmware if so i`ll have a peek inside it to see if i can figure out what bt broke.
Ian
just bee given a 205. free is the best, got it working great, thanks for all the help on the site.
i'm connectid via ethernet, it has got stuck twice with all led's on when this happens can't connect to web or to the routers home page..have to power off to fix it, haven't been able to find a manuel with what the led patterns mean
thanks
I have Windows XP on my PC. I wanted to move to Linux, so loaded the Debian Linux OS on my PC (keeping Windows for the time being); I know virtually nothing about Linux, learning as I go along. My BT Voyager 220V ADSL voice router works on Windows, but not on Linux, even though it is connected via ethernet. Does the above apply to the 220V? Many thanks.
my lights just constantly flash and connection just dont work wat a bummer bt u suck
Hi Cor
Cor ive got some clearing out to do and ive got 5 cable modems/routers
3 diff' types all never been used cant give you names/modles here!
coz???? well you know why lol.If you want them to play with email me and will give you full speck,And send em on. Or in the trash with em lol
all usb + e-net modern devices
Regards Joker
ok, i have a bt voyager 205, connected to a trendnet TW-BRF114 router. To share the connection with my flat mate i use D-Link DHP-100 Etherne-to-powerline. I use bitornado to download torrents but the prog. shows that it is firewalled. What should i do? port forward the modem or the router? thanks (i use ethernet cable to connect the modem to the router not usb)
Hi, Thanks for this very informative site, my question: I use a BT Voyager 205 adsl router and use WinMX a lot, I havent had any problems until yesterday, now winmx will not connect, I haven't changed a thing, has BT put a block on file sharing apps? I have tried connecting via USB and ethernet all to no avail, help would be appreciated. Thanks, Farmer.
GREAT site, its the most useful site I've come upon in ages. Thanks so much for the info!
Is there anyway someone could upload thier config? Or is this not possible?
I've read the site and stuff but it's all too confusing for me, might be a bit stupid but I don't understand most of it.
I just want to be able to use BitTorrent and LimeWire etc with good speeds. :|
I have 2 pc's connected to a voyager 205 modem router. One in the ethernet port and one in the usb port.
I have no problems with both pc's accessing the internet, but cannot seem to work out how to network the two together.
Is there a way of setting up my 2 pc's to share files with each other using the voyager 205?
ouch, my brain hurts. decided i was going to show my adsl connection who was boss, sick of being BT's bitch!!! Cor you are a legend by the way...site totally rocks, please tell me you come from a long line of cyborgs...it'd make me feel less like a pudding. Have only managed to get a very vague inkling about whats going on but thats okay seeing that this is my first forray into anything more technical than changing wallpaper on my desktop... still a looooooooooong way to go.
thanks for the starting point.
Blade
You need to connect the ethernet port to a switch or hub -forget about the USB - and then you have your own network and the 205 becomes just a gateway to the net - depending on the number of ports on the hub you can connect that many PCs. I have an old Lantek SOHO 4 port hub sitting happily under the 205 and I normally connect 2 PCs to it.
Best
Peader
sorry bout not getting back to u for ages , i cant remember what i decided to do in the end but i have had no prbs with my connections in most aspects so i guess i kinda forgot to come back but i just thought id mention that i can have my router on all the time and it doesnt give no probs at all well unless its disconnected from power but i simply use my rad.bat file when it does i have it on nearly 24/7 and it just stays on for days n days n days , lol cor that link i sent was for my program which is a big brother house style chatroom/game thing to play online with other players which is why i needed your help in the first place and the link is not up anymore but it has now been changed to http://uk.msnusers.com/MarkMcCauleysBigBrotherOnline/markmccauleysbigbrotheronline.msnw which is only interesting for fans of the television program really or games players who want more than just a chatroom , i wont go on about it but theres other stuff i have made too featured on the site , so u see i make online multiplayer stuff and bt were holding me back , after many months of not being able to work it out til i came here so long i forgotten what i wrote in the code and end up losing heart sometimes. bt staff will tell u anything i mean come on go and sit and watch a blinking light for hours jeez they must be aving a larf!
still aint had luck hosting hidden and dangerous games either and havent used them for many moons now , sigh there are not many map modders out there for these games but im very good at it and feel as though others are losing out cos of probs connecting etc why dont we all just bin our voyagers 20,000 leagues under the sea and get a nice new one example of map s i made for haddeluxe can be seen at
http://groups.msn.com/WARGamers2004/markmccauleysmissions.msnw
Cor
Do you live here anymore?
I've followed the instructions given for changing the voyager 205 into zipb mode. Then i connected a 4 port switch to 205 and no internet connection is detected even tho the router is config to obtain internet connection via DHCP. help please!
Just made all your stealth mods, scanned by own pc/router with Shields Up! and Voila!! To quote John Cena (WWE) "You can't see me" - brilliant, cheers mate
Rules 1320 & 1330 - should they be set to enable or disable?
In fact I did a big reply the other day and lost it - along with two others - in a power-out. I lost heart a bit after that and it's taken me a few days to be able to think about routers without feeling the stinging pain of lost data. *ouch*. Och well..
BiGVern, only the two stealth rules + your own. all others deleted.
Mike, all I know about zipb is in the tricks page. zipb is a fairly advanced terchnique and I wouldn't recommend setting it up unless you are already familiar with network troubleshooting in general. Attaching everything together and hoping it works is a perfectly valid first step, but if it doesn't work, you need to break it down, just like an electronic circuit. Does the second router get the correct address? [test] can it access the internet? [test] does it work without the router in the middle [test test test].
And all these tests produce information, and that is what you give to others if you want them. "it doesn't work" doesn't really give us a lot to go on.
Joker, man! The answer to "would you like me to send you [anything]?", or "Would you accept [someting]?" is ALWAYS YES! I'd dearly love to have a second router to do more zipb tests and other stuff, so sure, send em to me!
Thanks sgt smiley, I did wonder if it all worked out. Good good. The game thing was probably confusing to me because I don't watch TV, it all went over my head. Amusing, though, so worth a look!
As for the games hosting, it's probably just a configuration issue. I know folk do host games successfully with the voyager, so it's probably worth another go. the maps look cool, by the way.
i hate electricity, I escaped from the borg, but the implants still have their uses, yes, you're right.
Blade Get a switch! (see useful links section, above)
Stranger, you found the configs in the archive, with instructions, yeah?
farmer, if things stop working and you "haven't changed anything", the golden rule is CHANGE NOTHING!!! If I had a buck for every time someone has messed up a perfectly good setup because of a temporary line fault or somesuch external problem, I'd definitely be looking at some hnice arware upgrades!
BT hasn't blocked anything as far as I know. Surely they wouldn't dare!
If things stop working, sure it's good to reboot your router (you did "commit" first, of course), reboot your puter, but if that doesn't fix it, it can't be anything at your end. Call BT immediately and get them to check the line. Call the Broadband department and ask them if there are troubles at the ATM, whatever. Usually it is.
Da_Man you port-forward wherever there is a firewall/NAT. If a data packet has to travel through three devices to get to your puter, you need to ensure there's a clear route all the way through. Does the D-Link have a NAT? And is it enabled? You only need one firewall/nat on your network, so make it the 205 OR the router, and wherever you put it, THAT is where you do port-forwarding.
Bob, congratulations! (I'd go with Slackware, but Linux is a personal thing, each to their own!) I know almost nothing about hte 220. But if it's ethernet, it will work with ANY OS. More likely, you just need to setup your network. Check out the static IP page for more details.
Rodders, you PATH is simply a list of places that the operating system looks for "executables". In windows, that information is kept in the registry, and you can edit it from your system properties (advanced tab >> environmental variables.
C:\Windows is already in your path, so you could drop it in there, or just ruight click it and choose "run" (run is probably the default action, in fact - most insecure! - so just click it!)
On windows you use the .bat versions, the .sh versions are for UNIX (and generally you'd remove the .sh extension which I just added to have it served up correctly by the web server)
about dropped connexions.. If you applied all the tweaks here or better still, uploaded one of the ready-made configs, and it works fine, and then some weeks or months later it stops working, and even a reboot doesn't fix it, then a very likely cause is that your exchange is becoming overcrowded.
The rate of broadband subscription in the UK grows daily. I think perhaps BT just aren't keeping up.
If folk don't complain about it, BT will think they are providing satisfactory levels of service when they are not. But how would they know? PHONE BT! That's how.
To those who just dropped in to say thanks, THANKS! I feel 'em all!
l*rz..
;o)
ps.. Currently hard at it under hood; the site upgrade; thousand+ pages need to be xhtml compliant by Christmas, not a small job, the most popular ones are getting done first - and you can check out the rather cool new version of this very page by replacing "org" with "ath.cx". Mmmm.
i knew it!!!
Have the afternoon all planned out....hardcore brush up on all thing port-like.
Tho it might be all in vain....so heres the question....my old man has recently acquired a wireless router (belkin 4 port G something?), who put that idea into his idea i'll never know!! Now since im taking the time to "master" the voyager, would it be possible for me to run ,my comp of this modem whilst they simultaneously use the new router/modem on another computer on the same phone line without the two modems being connected in anyway...anyone catch my drift?...anyone?
Now a lot of u lot are thinking what is this moron on about...whys he making things so complicated...well i come from a long line of morons and i'm too uncomfortable to change...sorry.
ok, so get back to me if you can acquire some of the intended notions spread throughout my drivvle.
also 24meg broadband for 24.99 coming to a place near u soon (be internet?)....anyone else got wood at the thought of that? BT buh bye...rip off merchants.
last post ^ by I hate electricity
nope, not possible.
try phone > voyager (in zipb mode) > other router > puters.
;o)
ps.. what's the upload speed? And what about limits? got a URL?
Ha! Ian (W)!, just spotted your comment about to drop off the page, must have missed it earlier, glad you could drop by. hectic, yes, pretty much always.
Disconnections definitely seem to be becoming a problem. My first hunch is overcrowding (I'm on a nice quiet exchange here, and my connexion has been solid) but any light you can shed on that would be well appreciated.
Hang loose!
;o)
Hi, I'm just wondering if anyone has used the Voyager 205 on a routed block from an ISP? I'm currently using it with a /29 routed block, with 6 usable. I've turned off NAT as it doesn't need it. The router was using 3 IP Addresses (1 for WAN, 1 for LAN and 1 for USB) so I deleted the USB interface using telnet, but I was wondering if there was any way of bridging or something with the LAN and the WAN interfaces so they only have 1 IP? I'd imagine that deleting the eth-0 interface would be bad.
Hi, i am Telnet newbie, but i would like to make my BT Voyager 205 ADSL router work with my Playstation2 (it needs on some games opened ports or set up DMZ - as it is shown here, simiraly for xBox Live, i hope it will work for Playstation2 as well.. = link ). On Playstation's UK forum is said, that THIS will help fix the problem with Burnout Revenge (an some other games):
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ALL Burnout Revenge Connection Problems Fixed!
This will fix the current known problems. Freezing on connection and Port 3658
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FIX FOR THOSE WITH BT VOYAGER 205 ADSL ROUTER:
Computer
1) Go to http://voyager.home
2) Go to "advanced"
3) Click "advanced..." once again
4) It will ask for a username and password
5) Type "admin" for both, this is the default and should work
6) Click the "IP Routing" Tab
7) Make sure that "NAT" is "enabled".
8) Click in the drop down menu and select "NAT Virtual Server / DMZ"
9) Click "add"
10) Change "Virtual Server" to "DMZ"
11) Change "RULE ID" to something large like 1000 or above.
12) Make your "LAN IP Address", 192.168.1.40
13) Press "Apply"
14) Then press "save" and close the confirmation window
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Can you show me corresponding commands, that i can use in Telnet (because i just can't get to "advanced" web page whatever i do) for doing this please? CHeck out that xBox Live help web page for better understanding the problem too and this short comment from EA games:
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How do you resolve a connection issue with Burnout Revenge?
Answer
Make sure that these ports are open if a router or fire wall is being used with the title on your network. If you do not have a router or fire wall please contact your internet service provider or network administrator and have them look into opening these ports.
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TCP ports 31800 - 31899(outgoing ports for connecting to the Burnout Revenge server).
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TCP and UDP ports 3658/3659 (peer-to-peer connection).
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UDP port 10070/10080 (VOIP).
If you are unsure on how to do this please refer to the documentation for your firewall/router or contact the manufacturer of that product for assistance configuring your firewall/router.
Note: Users using DHCP must ensure that their console is always assigned the IP address specified in the PORT FORWARDING setup; under these circumstances you may need to change your console form “Auto Detect (DHCP)” to a “Static IP” address using the Network Configuration Utility or Network Adapter Start-Up Disc to ensure that forward data always gets to your console.
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Thank you, Michal DLouhy, UK
Mike,
In a regular modem, the router authenticates and the DHCP client on the router connects to your ISP anbd recieves the IP address for your connection. Then the router has a DHCP server and assigns local addresses to machines on the LAN side and connects to the WAN side via NAT.
In ZIPB, the router becomes only a modem and just authenticates and sets up a PPP session, the DHCP client would then need to connect to the LAN socket on the router and the ISP assigns the address directly to the machine connected.
If you have 1 IP from your ISP, then the first machine plugged in to the LAN side of the router would request an address from the router which then passes it directly to the ISP for an address.
If you have multiple IP's from your ISP, then the first machine would get the "router" address from your assigned subnet. You would need to put a gateway of some sort in, such as a firewall or another router to be able to else the other addresses.
As it stands I have 8 IP address, 5 useable for clients from my ISP.
I have the router set to DHCP from the ISP who assigns my WAN side static address. I have set the LAN side address to the same as the WAN address and disabled NAT. On the client PC's the IP's are in the same subnet as the WAN address set statically, and the default gateway set as the router. The down side of this arrangement is that the firewall on the router is disabled, and I have to statically assign client addresses (as my router wont assign non-private addresses and I dont have an internal DHCP server running).
I'll be swapping to ZIPB in the following way....
The router authenticates the PPP session and the "wan" interface of my firewall will request via DHCP my "router" IP address directly from my ISP. The Firewall will assign private addresses on the "LAN" side, but I will LAT the addresses on a 1:1 basis with the public addresses.
I will then not only get assigned addresses, instead of static ones, but I get my global firewall back.
Cor:
Thanks m8 nothing i need right now you helpt me enough already.
Just email me and let me know were to send them and i'll get them of to you by weekend.
Through ups nextday delivery service,pirk of my wifes job lol.
Regards Joker
Murray Mint,
You actually have 5 usable addresses - the broadcast address, network address and the router address is not usable for clients.
You need to set eth-0 to the same IP as your WAN router address. (Most ISPs have this as the second address in your range - check with your ISP) try setting it statically, or by settings it as 0.0.0.0, not sure about the 205 which way it should be.
You can do a hybrid NAT/No NAT mode on some routers (EN5861 is one of them) and this allows you to NAT the router address whilst leaving the others No NAT and get more machines on, but it's a headache.
Basically, I have 2 client pcs connected to voyager 205. Since u guyz recommend ethernet over USB, i quit using USB. However, when i'm using bittorrent, bit rates drops every 1-2 minutes! The bit rate would then recover but then drops out again.( I tried stealthing and then port forwarding but bit rate just drops!)WHY!?
Then, I tried putting the voyager 205 into zipb mode(I used telnet n copy n paste the commands from site). I discoered that internet connection is still working even tho the 205 is in zipb mode and the ip address in connection "status" is actually the external public IP assigned by ISP. Then I thought, ok, it's gonna work, so I connected my wireless router via ethernet to voyager 205. On the router, the light for internet connection is on solid and my 2 client pcs have been assigned a LAN IP each. WHY!?!?!
Cheers guyz..
Mike
Jeez Pete, I'm glad you stepped in there, I was scratching my head. My first thought was zipb/dhcp, and I wish I'd scrolled before going off to read the PDF's! But it looks like that's the way forward for Murray Mint, and as you say, you get to keep the firewall.
It still sounds like a lot of messing around, though.
Joker, click my smiley in the toolbar for the address, many thanks! (by the way, there isn't a "spare" 205 in the lot, is there?
;o)
just wondering, if i had tried telnetting the 205 then i poked the reset button at the back, does every command i previously inputted actually erased?
anyway, i have resetted the 205 n should b with factory default settings. I discovered that in connection status, it says the gateway address is 192.168.1.1, but the address for DNS and DHCP server is 192.168.1.2!!!!WTF!?(I'm not using static IPs atm cos I wanted a fresh start all ova again...)
Pete thx for the explanation but u got me a little confused. Can u just use simple words in explaining wt i need to do!?haha
Please, can you help me with setting up this PS2? All i need is those commands for Telnet, that will allow me setup DMZ {de-militarised zone}, as it si described on that link for connecting xBox or in that forum for PS2.
Cheers..
Ahh, missed another!
Michal, that's not a "fix", that's "basic game setup for a secure router", and it's all well documented right here.
Yes, of course you'll need to create rules. Check the recipes page for many of them. See the Useful Links section (above these comments) for the link to the archives where you will find a few "ready-made" configs that you can adapt, too.
If telnet scares you, you can get to all the advanced pages by using the "Secret Page Selectors..", directly above these comments. You would have spotted these things if you'd read the page.
;o)
Oh yeah, cheers! It is working now!
Be well, in peace and happy, free...........
Michal
Cor:
send to your address on your contact me page
Cor will get your box of goodies of to you friday.
It will be ups next day sevice "But" not shure if weekend count so it might be monday before you get it.
Is a"Lucent Technologies T1-E1 portmaster synchronous router"of any use to you? let me know and i wll put it in.
Regards Joker
How can i connect two pcs on the 205? one through usb and the other through ethernet?
Joker!, dude! the answer is ALWAYS yes!
I'm often found building and fixing puters and networks for the locals (usually for free - I live in the slums - and while most companies are happy to send their old puters to Africa or whatever - good PR - most of the poor kids in our own country don't even have a family puter *grr* - don't get me started!) so nothing goes to waste! If it can't be used, it gets cannibalised for parts or art. much appreciated, cheers!
Da_Man, GET A SWITCH!!!
for now..
;o)
ps.. Mike, I'm staying out of it just now, it would only confuse.
Hi! - I am having issues opening ports / port forwarding on the Voyager 205.
I am trying to run a webcam program which needs to communicate through port 1025.
I connect via ethernet into my computers LAN port (I only have one computer) - I went into the properties of the connection under TCP and gave my computer an IP address (192.168.1.4) as per your instructions.
Then using the browser to look at 192.168.1.2 I went to the NAT part and tried to configure portforwarding to my computers IP address with source and destination port set at 1025
Saved it, and tried to connect.
I am still finding port 1025 blocked.
When using your script for Azeureus (modified for my port choice) through telnet I still have no sucess
Newbie looking for guidance!
Thanks
How can i connect two pcs on the 205? one through usb and the other through ethernet?
Da_Man, don't. Instead, GET A SWITCH! Then connect both by ethernet. really, using USB + ethernet is almost always a mistake. Scroll back about 800 comments for some proofs.
lordgaz, first, make your puter 192.168.1.3, I recommend this, and although other addresses are used here and there on these router pages, that is the address used in all the scripts and configs. I'll set about eradicating all other addresses here to avoid confusion. Thanks for pointing that out.
Then go through the troubleshooter again, carefully considering each item, especially the notes about firewalls, these can really mess up your port-forwarding endeavours, and the voyager itself has a good solid firewall.
keep us posted.
;o)
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Cor:
Ok m8 will be going out to you tomorrow.
There will be more stuff for you now i know what you do with spares.
and fixing Networking puters.
And no i don't make money! like you i end up doing most things for Free
even most builds i do i make little if any money,some times i even spend more on a system than i charge! lol.
And im doing at least 8 or more new builds a month thats without
all the HDD recovery and the constant upgrades and phone calles lol "can you pop round and look at this or do that"hee hee.
Even at work Ive been known to have locked myself in the Loo with a work m8ts pc doing an upgrade CPU and ram lol,And when im on nights
i always spend a good few hours each night doing the above but with the use of a nice work shop were by day the firms IT bods do all there maintanance lol, and i have the use of a pc' and near all the worker bring there troubled puters in and like magic by morning ther done! lol.
So i end up with a lot of reclamed componants and from now on anythin i think will be of use i will send on to you m8,keep an eye out for your package from sat-mon,i hope it all helps out.
Regards Joker
Sylver123, I loved your links so much I made em live! Sadly not available in my area yet, but when it is.. w00h00! I love their site copy, this is nice.. hell yeah!
Joker, what can I say, superb!
I know exactly what you mean about losing money making peecees, and then there's supporting the buggers! It's good though, when their owners are all trained up and off on their own, worth the effort, even if it means sometimes putting in overnighters for the princely sum of "a couple of beers". ahh, good shit. My cunning plan plan is to get so many puter experts into the area that I can get back to my own work!
Already looking forward to the package, being a true womble at heart, and blessed with a fairly sizable flat, I'm afforded the luxury of never having to chuck anything out! Just as well, because there's always gonna be someone on the phone asking "have you got a...?"
It's good to be able to say "Sure!".
Thanks again m8.
;o)
Cor
I havent been to bed yet m8!Im on a rampage lol,your box is full and a bit on the heavy side Wife will be happy!lol
Ok there are some AMD T'bird 1.000 cpu's 1 that are system pulls and a bit grubby but should be fine have all been kept in propper contaners.
There are also some mobo's one of them is a MSI-6545E socket 478 P4 and also a cpu and cooler fitted "not shure on speed though" the only thing i dont have is the RDRam So Can any of you guys out there who might want to help Cor and his plan!and might have some laying around? Send it on in to Cor please.
Cor tons of bits on way even my old LAN tester lol i got a newone.hubs/modems/routers/vga cards network cables and stuff boxed up.
Bed for me now c ya! m8
Regards Joker
w00t! sweeeEEEEEEEEeet dreams dude!
So far I've managed to legitimately upgrade my own puter twice this last year and passed on the old ones, but your "spares" are probably still faster than the machine I use myself!
I got a cunning Christmas plan for a currently-separated local family, so this stuff will come in real handy. Appreciated.
l*rz..
;o)
ok. done that - changed to 192.168.1.3 but now I have lost my internet connection (it works if I change it back to 192.168.1.4) (I used to be USB connected, but I stopped that and now I am on ethernet connection on motherboard if that is any consequence)
You can explain the answers using 192.168.1.3 and I will interpret them
I am lost from here on. I have temporarily shut down my soft firewall (Zone Alarm)
Does port forwarding actually unblock those ports, or is there another procedure.
All I need is to receive incoming info on port 1025 to my puter.
Finding it all a bit hard - sorry
Evening Everyone....im just in the process of setting up my 205 for p2p but can any1 tell me what the 2 different connections are for in my network connections box, i am connected via ethernet, i have 1 connection showing 1394 connection net adapter & the other connection is local area connection SiS 900-Based PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter, is this normal & does everything have 2 be set up the same for both connections for me 2 set up my p2p application, cheers
all motherboards compatible with firewire, automatically have the 1394 connection :P don't worry about it :P i crapped myself when i first saw it too xD
Hi,
Just got BT broadband with one of these Voyager 205s. I've been playing with the settings after going through this website thoroughly. I know this isn't meant to be a troubleshooting forum for p2p apps. However, the problems I seem to be getting are only with these apps and they don't seem to be discussed. I have no idea why they aren't working.
I've gone through the checklist to get the router working many times. I have a static IP and i have forwarded the correct ports on the router using some of the recipes. When i test the ports on
http://www.preinheimer.com/cgi-bin/connectiontest/connectiontest2.cgi
they arent open. Even if i completely disable the windows firewall in services.msc.
However, every now and again it says that they are open?!?
When open I have run the p2p application (overnet) and the rest of my internet ceases to function normally. I cannot reach websites, and the p2p app doesnt work. If I turn off the intrusion protection and turn the IP filter off will that mean that the routers firewall is completely de-activated? If i could turn it off then i could check whether the problem was to do with the router or with my pc. I'm wondering whether its to do with windows firewall. However, when i was on dial-up my windows firewall was configured the same and it worked. I have deleted and created new exceptions for my windows firewall. I really have played with this constantly for the past 3 days and I just don't understand why the internet keeps dying.
Any thoughts?
Cheers for any help
Lordgaz
Click the link below and i think thats what you mean?
Look here and see snapshots static.ip
Regards.Joker
Cor
All on the way m8,will give you the tracking ref.
as soon as my wife sends it to me.
Also there is more than one box
Regards.Joker
ps Cor: do you use a "AMD or Intel System ?"
OMG..24MB broadband finally!! In Hong Kong, people are using 50+ mbs man! Even normal residents are using 6mb and its not a shared connection! My bittorrent download rates were something like 500kb/s for one torrent!
Is Be trust worthy!? It sounds all too gd to b true..and their new modem/router is wicked...hope it aint gonna be doomed with problems like BT services.
lordgaz, "port-forwarding" involves two separate steps, i) open port(s) in firewall, 2) create NAT rules. I'd start again if I were you, give the computer a static IP address, reboot. Then reset the router and upload the most appropriate "ready-made" config from the archives. (withoiut hitch, the whole operation will only take a couple of minutes) I suspect you have some incompatible network settings hanging around.
Grey, the troubleshooting page will answer your question methinks. Either you have maxxed out your upload capacity, or more likely your maximum TCP connexions. If Overnet doesn't allow you to cap these things, there are plenty eDonkey clients that do, like eMule.
Hey Joker! Man! Two boxes? Sounds like I'm in for a fun weekend! Bang goes my xhtml upgrading for the next couple of days. Yes, I'm gonna PLAY!
By the way, my main workstation is a P3, and the Linux server is an AMD (K2). (My laptop is Intel from the time when speeds were measured in KHz hahah) I don't really have any brand loyalty, I just use whatever's fastest and hasn't blown-up yet! Cheers dude! I'm getting excited!
Well Mike, one thing's for sure; if I get 24MB broadband, whatever router/modem/device they give me, I'll be doing a page about it!
As for to-good-to-be-true, I kinda think that about everything that's happening right now, technology-wise, but why not? Why can't super-fast broadband access be like electricity? dirt cheap and everywhere. We NEED it, the future needs it.
I'm surprised, though, that ISP's don't provide dirt-cheap subscriptions and then charge micropayments for usage, like 10p/GB or something. "Power-users" would pay £5-15 a month on top of their $15/mo subscription, and there would be no need for the sort of money-wasting experiments that BT is currently undergoing (or rather, just abandoned, now *we* can pay for it).
I don't mind paying for what I actually use, but I'd much prefer to just not think about it at all, so if this £24/mo flatrate 24MB broadband is for real, I'll be signing up as soon as it hits my area. hell yeah!
for now..
;o)
Not had any problemo's with my 205 until i tried online gaming on ZONE.MSN.COM - Combat flight simulator II
Even the information on your fantastic site is not ing this nut.
DP2 error problem.
Oh mighty corz - give me some inspiration
hi mate
i have tryed everything but i cannot get winmx running even emule is running at low id had the old voyager 100 with no problems.
the only difference that i can see is that i am running xp pro (don't laugh).
is there any different settings for this as i am pulling my hair out (havent got much left now).
Hi,does anyone know why i keep having to re-enter my NAT details after restarting my comp? Ive crrectly set up a static ip add and the NAT rule works perfectly, but iam toally miffed as to why i needto keep reentering the details. Any help would be greatly welcmed.
Thanx
c
I got my BT Voyager 205 connected (to my Mac G4 running System 10.3) last May when broadband arrived here. I connected via USB and had no trouble for 4 months. Then all of a sudden, nothing.
I have tried via USB and via ethernet and the main problem is that I cannot access http://voyager.home or http://192.168.1.1 at all and so cannot try most of the advice or hints in these pages. All the lights are on on the front of the router. I am trying solely via ethernet now as advised.
What next?
Martin
Martin, the first thing you need to do is reset your router. There's a wee hole at the rear specifically for this task. You should be good to go.
semiskimmed, do you mean re-enter the details on your computer??? that is strange (normally it's the router settings vanishing that folk complain about, until they learn to "commit" after their commands). You are talking about your computer, yeah? Not the router?
Perhaps the user account you are using doesn't have access rights for these things, and the changes you make are over-ridden by the "Administrator". Where on your computer to you adjust "NAT" settings? Hmmm.
Or perhaps you are running a "Live CD" Operating system, and no changes are permanent. Strange anyway. I recommend logging in as the root/admin user and making the changes to your network settings from there. If you already are, get back here!
pissed, comparing the Voyager 100 and the Voyager 205 is, well, not useful, they are entirely different beasts. Crucuially, the 205 has it's own security layer, something a simple USB modem (like the voyager 100) lacks. This is a good thing, but if you want it to work well, it does take a wee bit more setting up, more than "plug 'n' play", that is.
XP Pro isn't so bad, and is well covered in all the tweaks and tricks here. Once you sober up, check out these router pages, you'll be blowing away your monthly limit in days!
BuzyBee it just sounds like you need to create some port-forwarding rules for DirectX ..
I plan to eventually do a couple of scripts for these (like the RAD script) so you can just plug in what you need. In the meantime, you'll need to create the port-forwarding rules yourself.
Either use one of the ready-made scripts for guidance, or else check out the generic recipes on the recipes page, they are easy to adapt to whatever your needs.
have fun!
;o)
Thanks a lot.
I had tried resetting before but nothing happened. This time I pressed the 'Off' switch first, then the reset button, then switched on again, and now everything works! Wierd!
But I don't think things are going to stop there... I used the hints on this page to get into the WAN interface and run the diagnostic tests, then used your Telnet link to get into Terminal for the first time ever and added a stealth command.
I think I might get myself an Ethernet switch next, so that I can use my old G3 on the internet as well.
I never guessed the little black box had so much in it!
Martin
Does anyone know why when i switch off my windows firewall another connection called "internet connection" appears & from that moment on my connection keeps dropping every few minutes, also i have AVG anti virus program running is that ok or will it cause me problems, cheers
I'd love to get videoconferencing to work, first to get iCHAT AV working between my iMAC G4 and an identical machine in UK running the same thing (also on BT voyager205), and then to get iCHAT AV working (as advertised that it will) with a PC in France running AIM 5.5.
I have stealthed, got a static IP, set up rules for iCHAT and for AIM AV too ( the portforward.com site states 1024 -5000 but the worked example showed only 8 ports opened 1024-1031 so I did that (nervous about opening 3076 ports permanently).
Tried to detect an open TCP port (with either Shields up or your port tester) and iCHAT running, alas all remained stealthed. Should I be doing this with blacklist temporarily turned off as you recommended for testing stealth? I have hunted in these pages for a while but have disabled router intrusion protection and the MacOSX firewall is turned off, I've run out of ideas.
Is there a handy test application I could use to check I am doing my configuring right, as a positive control before I tackle the tricky AV applications? Where else can a firewall hide on a new mac? I'm almost completely computer-illiterate and astonished your site has got me this far. Thanks very much for any suggestions.
Cor
Have you got them yet???
how do cor,
woohoo managed to get dc++ and torrents working...i'd like to say i've mastered networking and its finer points but we both know that would be a stone cold lie...still not sure how i managed it exactly, i'm probably not very secure at all but why would anyone want to hurt little old me?
Last question is: I sorted out my static IP and it works ok but external IP keeps changing, i thought that would sort itself out when I made the IP static in windows. Could anyone tell me how to go about making it static...someone mentioned to me about dynip or something?
thanks.
last last question: my NAT rules for ABC (6881-6889) are only working coz i enetered each port with it own indiviual rule using voyagers own router utility. When i put in the range rule using telnet it doesnt go green. I tried the recipe page and the bit torrent rule and then the generic port range, neither seem to let ABC do its job. Not really a big problem because individually they work but just use more of the 20 rules...which could be a pain in the motherboard later on.
last last last question: whats a tahini?
eternal and forever flowing gratitude
So far the tips have been great and I've set up the router to work with azureus ok. I use mirc as my chat client and thats where I'm having problems, specifically the dcc option in mirc. I've tried setting things up with port forwarding but I'm having no success. I can recieve a file thats been dcc'd to me but I can't send a file using dcc.
When I try to send, all the lights on the router light up and I have to manually switch the router off and on to get things back to normal. Also, not sure whether it is a direct result of this, but I've "blown" 2 microfilters while trying to dcc.
I'm using an ethernet connection and apart from dcc, everything else seems to work ok. I'd be grateful if anyone has any ideas to get the dcc working ?
Thanks in advance, Hybodus
I did Joker! That's me just back into the land of computing gain after many hours of fun and loud swearing. My first combo of mobo/cpu failed, the second failed dramatically taking my power pack with it. Even my original mobo wouldn't work after that! In the end it turned out my floppy drive had blown and that was shorting the power pack. weird. Currently I am running the Epox mobo with an Athlon 900, and drooling over than lovely red MSI board, wondering where the hell I can get a pair of Rambus chips!
Many thanks dude, a box of amazing thing, the lan tester rocks, and those cable modem power packs are the perfect voltage for FX pedals, nice one! I don't think I'll be needing CAT-5 cables for a while, either
Where was I? Oh yeah, routers (by the way, that L:ucent router will probably be of no use - good, because its case most definitely will! *ahem*)..
Great news Martin, a switch definitely sounds like your next move. As well as the net sharing, there's sharing files between puters, one of those facilities you come to learn to not live without.
BigCol, it sounds live you have the UPnP services running (you can probably disable those), perhaps your firewall usually prevents this traffic. Some antiVirus packages have started adding firewall features in the name of "worm prevention", so it's definitely worth testing with these things off, at least when setting up.
pete, with iChat, you'll probably just have to suck it and see. I have a vague memory of someone managing this before, but details elude me. iChat (like many similar applications) picks ports almost at random, so it's probably easiest to just try chatting and tweaking until it works.
I don't use the blacklist protection at all, so I'd say leave it of for now. To test port forwarding, install BitTorrent (the mac OS X version is simple and excellent) and see if you can get a green light. If so, then you have no obstructions in the data path and can continue with the iChat experiments, and you'll also have BT setup!
There's a link to the Slackware torrents in the useful links section. Not only a great free Operating System, but a great test of your torrent capabilities; if your ports are opened correctly, those ISO's should easily come in at over 100Kbs+
well i hate electricity, it sounds like you are heading in the right direction. You definitely want to look into creating ranges of ports, though. "voyagers own router utility" what is that? You mean the web interface?
The rules only go green when they are active. So, for instance, a rule that was only active at the "high" security setting wouldn't go green while your security level was set to low or off. Perhaps you forgot to specify the security level in the telnet versions, or something like that. Double check!
Your external IP is dynamic, and unless you pay BT some extra cash it will keep changing with (almost) every reconnexion. If you want a "fixed" address, head along to Dyndns.org, and sign up for five free ones. then http://ihateelectricity.ath.cx could be yours!
And last last lastly.. tahini is an amazingly nutritious, incredibly delicious substance. Also it sticks to the inside of your mouth (more on these magical properties later) As well as being one one the richest sources of calcium on the planet (great for those growing bones and teeth) it can be put to almost infinite culinarily uses in both the sweet and savoury sides of the force, it's magic!
Hummus (that salad dip stuff) is mainly made with Tahini. In the middle east they mix tahini with honey and it forms a fudge, which they call "helva". If you take a wooden skewer, spike a nice juicy date with it, and dip that in your jar of tahini, you will discover something tastier than chocolate. No, really!
Tahini's is simply finely pulped sesame seed, nothing more. It comes in light and dark variaties, the light variety being made from hulled seeds.
It is also bloody hard to get hold of here in the outskirts of the city, and I haven't had a jar in weeks! I plan to go into town very soon and visit a health food shop. Once I made a jar last almost three days. Well, okay, two and a half. Damn! It's fine!
One of my missions in life is to have tahini become a common household food, supplanting Peanut butter (which is usually laden with all sorts of artificial crap) and affecting a positive change in the health of our world, especially the kids.
So there you go!
;o)
ps.. Hybodus, DCC is on my to do list, but it's been on it since about 1999 when DCC stopped working with ICS. Clearly I don't use it much, but I would be keen to get it working because it's sometimes useful. If you want to jump into my IRC channel sometime, I'd be glad to run some tests, I'm fairly certain it's doable.
Cor
Make shure there is heat paist on msi mobo?.
Will send you up a Athlon 1800 some time next week or as soon as
ive done this upgrade.
Regards Joker
There was, but I rubbed it off to read the chip!
Good news (while we're off-topic) I got the Tbird 1200 working tonight*, at 1300+ actually, in the epox board, cookin! everything just happens!
;o) <- actual grin
Cor
I'm trying to hack the bt router, however my first problem seems to be getting the Ethernet to work. The cable is fine but my PC cant seem to connect to the internet through the Ethernet. I believe it to be a problem with my PC, i recently re-installed windows and now the Ethernet cant be used. I checked the bios but couldn't find anything unusual there! Would it be a bad idea to still use the USB? Any help would be greatly appreciated!! Thanks
Hi all, ive been and posted here a few times, but anyway heres the latest problem! wohoo
I use the usb port and my brother uses the ethernet, anyway everything was fine a while ago, we both use azureus to download but i now have this problem where all my downloads show no transfer and my net connection is gone.
Typically when its just me using the modem the lights, power,diag,dsl,usb are on and the usb is flashing, but sumit seems to crash as all lights come on (including the ethernet - when its not plugged in) and i have no connection, i try to turn off the box and back on but it still doesnt work, only way to fix is to restart my pc and thats it.
any ideas?
Hi everyone...
For starters I am a newbie....
I have tried to get into the telnet screen and log in...
My static IP address is 192.168.1.3....when i try and run this in cmd line it flashes up for second saying connecting and then closes again..
I have gone through the whole getting an IP address page and if I click at the end there on telnet router the same thing happens ....
I then went through the "i can't get to the web interface" and once again cant get the telnet routerb screen up at all...
Any ideas
Cor
You mean you didn't get coded message????
odog52
Iv'e had much the same prob's in the past on some pre-installed Windows Systems
Were as Telnet has been disabled in Services or restricted and even removed in the Group Policy editor not shure if this is the case with you my friend.
Useing the Group Policy editor is not recomended if don't know what your doing so might be best to wait to hear from Cor.
Regards Joker
I have set up my Voyager 205 on my main PC via the ethernet card. It works perfect on my ADSL 2mb connection. I have a second PC which I want to network/connect for Internet, file sharing, lan games etc. I have bought a 2m USB lead which plugs into the 205 USB port and then the USB socket on the 2nd PC!
What next?.
When I run the setup on the 2nd PC from the drivers disk, I'm getting asked BT user names, broadband phone numbers!! etc. Do I have to set it up as if the 205 was directly connected to the 2nd PC (which it is in a way!). I thought the USB connection on the voyager 205 would be acting like a HUB for the 2nd PC. If I can find drivers for the 205 and install them on the 2nd PC then what next?
TazzyUK
Hi cor, Im goin to start using azureus again but stilllll gettin problems. Ive open the port i need and its in tcp and udp and the nat firewall test on it says im fine. YET.. Im not connecting to anyone and i cant access webpages while downloading or uploading its seriously up the left and i had this problem a while ago too :'(
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance :)
Here is a pic of what it looks like (in the pic its been green for like 30mins+) -
[dead image removed - ed]
Pic of settings (i put upload under my max as well as download incase i was using to much bandwidth) -
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Joker and Cor..
Thanks for the replies to my Telnet problems...
I am thinking of moving to another service providor as the dreaded download limit starts on the 15th October...
I am also thinking of starting from scratch and installing windows from new on another drive...lets see if that clears up the problem..amongst others...
Dazzla (is that Bobby? heh) Check your device manager (run "devmgmt.msc") and see what's up with the ethernet card. If it's built into the motherboard, it still needs drivers, and the default Windows install perhaps didn't install those.
IHATEMYVOYAGER, it just sounds like you need to set your maximum limits to something reasonable. (see below)
odog52, first, do you have telnet available? afaik, it only comes as standard on XP/2003, so on earlier versions of windows I think you need to install it separately (I don't have any earlier versions of Windows kicking around any more to check this).
If so, does it work on it's own? Open a command prompt (run "cmd.exe" or choose "DOS Shell/Command Prompt" from your start menu) and just type telnet <enter>. Anything happen?
If not, you would probably be a lot quicker installing Putty, it's an excellent windows telnet/ssh client - see useful links section for its URL. By the way, disabling the telnet "service" (a Very Good Idea) won't affect your ability to use the Telnet client, so don't go enabling that trying to get the client to work!
And lastly, if you're upgrading your OS, have you considered Linux?
TazzyUK, back to the top of the page!
Mick, I hope you own that DVD! It is easier to download a backup than make one, that's for sure. Azzy settings..
- upload limit: 15KB/s
- download limit: 0
- default max upload slots per torrent: 7+
- Max no of connexions per torrent: 250 (or zero)
- Max number of connexions globally: 350+
These are guidelines. The crucial one is probably the max uploads per torrent. Remember, with bittorrent you normally get your best downloads from peers who are also downloading from you, even if it's only a small amount.for now..
;o)
ps.. Joker, damn! I knew I shouldn't have chucked out that Secret Squirrel handbook!
If I were stupid enough to buy a Voyager 205 for use on AOL and networking 2 machines, would I be able to change the Voyager settings so I can use AOL ? (actually I have been just that stupid)
Simpleton, the settings should be the same, only the user/pass will need to be changed. There's some notes here about it; essentially, you need to set these up before you connect the unit to the phone line.
By the way, odog52, it just occurred to me, the telnet link at the foot of the static IP page is a special one, and only works if you have your router as a "named" host called "router". It states that.
The link on THIS page, however, should work on any modern system, regardless of its host settings.
;o)
Cheers cor, so that shud make it actually download + let me surf when it is? Thanks allot :) and yea.... i own the dvd ;) lol
Yup, that's roughly what's set on my Linux rig (which runs Azzy 24/7) and the other machines don't have any trouble surfing, chatting, ftp'n, etc, even doing p2p. So long as you keep your network-wide limits within those of the voyager, everything works great.
Even 200 max connexions is probably plenty, so long as you allow individual torrents to eat most or all of those connexions. I used to limit individual torrent upload speeds and all-srts, but I just let Azzy handle it (along with all the torrent queue/storage/moving/etc activity, it does it all, apart from find the torrents in the first place!) a job it does superbly.
;o)
I'm just messing with my new javascript enabled comment box, hence this totally unnecessary reference
(No cor not as in bobby!)
Right i managed to get my Ethernet port working and the router is lighting up okay. However i cannot connect to the internet through it. Iv tried to install the BT voyager CD again but here's the problem... it will only recognize the USB, if i just have the Ethernet plugged in, it will still only recognize the USB even though it is not connected, however if i plug both the USB and Ethernet in together i can choose to connect through the Ethernet but after choosing to connect through the Ethernet it still didn't work!
Any ideas??
i have read the voyager 205 page, and you say reading this page could save weeks of hair pulling.
i think you are correct.
well done..
Cor:
Hi m8.
Keep your eyes open for post!
I will be sending you a P4 mobo tomorrow
its nothing fab but it takes DDR mem sticks and has a "SIS Chipset".
So you can try you P4 cpu.
Regards Joker
Somebody please help!!??
I have tried using the 'stealth' rules shown & everything works fine.
My problem is that i want to be able to control what others are doing on my home network!!
So i have deleted the rule that allows everything out & tried to replace it with several that allow only specific types of traffic out.
For example i have created a ipf filter rule which allows outgoing traffic only when the destination port is 80, thinking this would basically stop everything except web access. Well i was partially right...it stopped everything including web access!!!
Firstly I thought i must have some setting wrong somewhere, so tried again, and again, and again.....etc, changing various options in the vain hope that it would somehow work. Still no luck though.
What am I missing?
Any suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated.
PS. Great site....has really helped....with the exception of the above! :)
Hey cor, thanks very much its actualy workin, ur a wizard :P should it go to like 4kbs then back to 0 back and forth for the 1st 5mins of it tho? Thanks a bunch :)
Hey cor, thanks for the advice on Azzy it helped alllllllllllot but.. stil havin a bit of trouble with it, i cant surf while downloading and it kicks me of msn all the time plus IF it actualy starts downloading a file it takes 10mintes and so far out of like 6 torrents 1 has worked decently :( i did wat u said it helped allot but stil not getin n e where. I jus realised tho i never updated my firmware so i just did, wat does firmware do tho? Thanks allot.
Dazzla, start again! This time without the BT CD! You don't need it for ethernet. Uninstall all that stuff. Then check the ethernet is working by plugging it into anything. Then hook up the voyager and upload a nice ready-made config. TADA!
johno, shows us what rules you have so far.
Nick, yes, the start of a torrent is a highly dynamic time! It can jump about all over the place, and usually the first few MB come down fairly slowly. As soon as you have one full chunk, though, things speed up considerably.
But many torrents will still be slow. That's internet life, and lack of good seeders. Test with one single known good torrent. There is a link to a set of very fast torrents (Slackware ISO's) in the Useful Links section above these comments, use it. You should get green lights and 100KB/s+ speeds all the way, thanks to those gracious Linux chaps. Searching slashdot for torrent files is another useful ploy of the torrenteer-in-testing.
If one torrent works 100%, then your setup is working 100%. After that it's just the usual fun and games of internet life. I've downloaded CD's in minutes, and small documents in weeks, c'est la vie!
;o)
ps.. or rather, Joker, I can try out the p4 CPU after I obtain some DDR ram
Im trying to open up ports 1221 and 3306 .. can you help me with that at all.. if you can could you email me at the email given thanks!
sure thing chaos, my tech-by-email service is only $500 per query, so you feel free to make use of the facility at any time, via PayPal.
;o)
Cor:
Sorry m8 thought you would have ram!
I sent the mobo about an hour ago, went with the wife lol
Will be with you tomorrow via' TNT or UPS.
I will sort out some ram for you.
hee! hee! will go through my Large Boxof ram sticks
and see what i can come up with, there's loads and loads of
sticks all in anti static bags "But" i never mark em up!
so have to open the lot till i find what i need
Talk soon
Regards.Joker
I have deleted all but two rules...
Rule 500000 (your 'Deny Everything Incoming' rule from the stealth page),
and my rule No. 5 which is set to allow all outgoing traffic on all interfaces
with stateful inspection when the source ip is in the range 192.168.1.1 - 192.168.1.5 (my network range)
and the destination port is 80. This is applicable to all security levels. Everything else
is as the default settings on the web interface.
Any ideas?
Ha! Joker, Good man! I did have some DDR a while back, but passed them on; none of my machines can take them, typical!
Yeah johno, I follow, but I wanted to see the actual exact rule that you are using, there will be more than one, for sure. DNS (udp/tcp port 53) will be essential, for starters (maybe a clue there!). I haven't tried this, and it sure seems like a nasty thing to do to a network!
I gotta sleep..
;o)
Hey cor, took ur advice and set up azzy like ya said. Out of like 7 torrents i tried 1 worked :S and it took 10 minutes to work and even while it was i cudnt surf or use msn. I thought about what mite b wrong and then i realised i never updated my firmware ever lol, so i did. Can i ask wat the firmware does + any ideas what could be wrong? Thanks allot :)
Sorry my bad lol, when i updated the firmware it wiped all the ports id opened and the nat rules ive done them again and it seems to be running smoothly, sry for the time waste and cheers :) this website has saved my bacon so many times lol and my pc for being demolished :P
Ahhhh My mistake AGAIN, they did run smoothly for a bit then my peers and seeds jus fall and so does my download and upload :'(
ive done ur security rules, ive opened ports 6881 - 6999 on tcp for bitcommet
Ive opened 49210 on udp and tcp for azzy like u said
and ive also done - modify ppp global keepalive enable + modify ppp global pppsesstimer nevertimeout
Sry for the mistake spammin lol :( Plz help.
is there a way of flashing it or something so you dont have to use bt??
Ok, Ive narrowed it down to the problem is the fact i got far to many connections going on and thats whats making me timeout :) (i been up alnite figuring that out) the thing is.. we got the same router so if u can connect to more ppl so can i :P unless u got a better connection than me which im willing to bet u do (i got 256 upstream (32kbs) and 1000 downstream (1meg)).
I think the command i need is "modify nbsize maxipsess 512" but the thing is ive already done it, does that command mean i can connect to 512 peers shared between "MAXIMUM NUMBER OF CONNECTIONS PER TORRENT" & "MAXIMUM NUMBER OF CONNECTIONS GLOBALLY" ?
Is there somewhere on the actual configuration website to see if the command is already in place or if il need to do it again? Because im sure i did the command in dos, closed dos then opened the config page and saved.
Sry about all the posts but i love azzy and h8 not being able to use it and even more so not knowing why lol :)
Cor
Your right, Dont ever tackle anything!
If your not up to
Regards.Joker
I would be interested to remotely wake up a PC that is connected to the net through a Voyager 205 router, using the Ethernet interface. My understanding is that PCs that are powered off can be powered on remotely by sending a special Ethernet packet to them, assuming that the PC's hardware supports such a thing.
My question is: can the Voyager 205 router be coaxed into generating such a packet? Since I would like to wake up the PC from some remote location, my command would have to be somehow processed by the Voyager, which then would send the appropriate Ethernet packet to the PC. Is this at all possible?
Cor
ps.Did you get mobo yet m8?
STRANGE THINGI used the pre-made Mohaa game.cfg
last night on a friends 205 made backup first.
And it totaly wipe't every thing right back to the defult setings of router
password the lot?. So i uploaded the backup cfg and no problems reboots its self!
and its back to normal.
So i tryed it again and this time it looked ok but! none of the cfg's or rules
had been created?
So i used the cfg file and copy+paste all the cmd's via Telnet one by one
and apart from one ore two rule enterys that had already been writern
each time telnet responded with "set/done" and i finish with commit then reboot.
And when it came back online it was fine all rules and tweaks were there and workt great?
so with the same copy of the cfg file as used on above 205 i re-uploaded to my own router and
affter it rebooted every thing was fine, and all my rules setings were fine to?
router perfoming A1+
Any thoughts on what or why this happend
Regards.Joker
JCA, I haven't a clue! But if I were trying to figure it out, I'd probably start here.
Nah, Joker, no sign yet, I been keeping my eye out for it, too. Probably turn up soon. Got a tracking number maybe?
As for the config, very strange! My first thought was firmware revision, perhaps his is old. The scripts were created on my V1.6, so I dunno about other versions, maybe his is newer!
lastly, has anyone got a half-decent video card going spare, I just blew up me ATI
oh happy days..
;o)
my second thought, Joker, is that his FTP client may have altered the file on upload, i.e. added/changed linebreaks, switched to ASCII mode, some of that nonesense.
I transfer everything in binary, and although FlashFXP occasionally gets funky on me, it usually works fine.
;o)
This is ridculous, I follow every single guide on this page and I've got most stuff working (though not all), but now I want to play my PS2 online (PES5 is out next week), it's bad enough having to move my PS2 all the time but it doesn't even work anyway, forawrded the needed ports and nothing.
I really need to switch ISP because BT have really been a nightmare.
Core:
Just checked ups tracker for you and its in transit.
Didn't want to post tracker tryed to send to you via your contact page but it asked
for user name + password?.
ps.the firmware revision was the 1.8 so you might be right m8.
Regards.Joker
Our internal network has a 192.168.1 range which prevents me from conecting
using VPN and Checkpoint firewall. I know it is because of an IP clash
and I would like to change the IP address on the router so it can
be say 192.168.10.??? which takes me out of the internal network range.
However whenever I make the change and save it on the voyager 205 it
always reverts back to 192.168.1.1
Can anyone help please?
One of the most helpful, well thought out, heartache saving Tech analysis for the semi-competent i've ever read. Cor.........blimey!!
Thanks again, this really is Fastlane stuff and my ISP "Technical" support line quite simply are a bunch of navel gazers in a cul-de-sac by comparison.
jay, switching ISP is a kind of a last resort, but if BT follow through on that recent letter, something we may yet be doing en-masse. But in truth, the Technical support staff of most ISP's is pretty lousy.
If you are sharing your connexion, you need a decent switch. You have a switch? And then you might want to consider my "perfect stealth" technique, where you replace the second stealth rule with one rule forwarding all data to your games machine. Anything that isn't specifically intended for your regular puter will be routed to the console, and should save you having to set up games individually.
I don't have a console, which is why it provides "perfect stealth". sorta.
Paul, I know this is doable, because I ran my own voyager at a non-standard address for many months. The usual gotchas are forgetting to "save" if making changes from the web interface, and forgetting to "commit" when making changes from the telnet interface. The unit should reboot the instant you change its IP, and come back at the new address. If you ever reset the unit, you need to apply the changes again (make a backup config and upload it again in that case)
claviger (and all the others I usually don't bother to answer) cheers! I do a fairly good impression of someone who doesn't care about such things, but I always get a wee warm glow when someone shows they appreciate my work. It's better than money!
Hey Joker, great news! But in the meantime, this TBird is running superbly, it's great to be able to burn DVD's in the background while working on other tasks, something that used to almost guarantee I would never run out of coasters!
Remote Location!?
I don't know what you mean about the user/password thing. Was that my ftp site? I think it's the old address on there. corz.ath.cx usually works for all my services. (my local version of corz.org - currently undergoing an upgrade) has the correct address. it's anonymous access, no password required.
That firmware revision thing could be a problem. I guess I should flash mine and check these configs out. bummer. If only I had two voyager 205's!
for now..
;o)
Cor
In that remote place of yours! hee hee.
Iv'e got some ram aswell but its not high end stuff but its not crap.
wont be sending it up this week though! I will do it in a while when ive
sorted out some more stuff for you and your campain
code name
Ive just picked up another 205 to play aroud with
Talk soon! regards.Joker
ps.
does anyone know anything about the voyager 220V router?
Is it similar?
Peter
Cor
regards Joker
ps.biding on 5 X 205's and winning so far
Can anyone assist? I am trying to create IPF and NAT rules for WinMX. I have tried Cor's helpful list of Blue Peter rules (here's one i made earlier!) but i continually get invalid command. I did notice a potential typo "Transprot" rather than "Transport" but both permeatations give the same invalid command response? Thoughts / recipe suggestions gratefully received
Clav
Ignore me i was being rather dim, all sorted now - big mistake with the Transport rather than TransProtocol, and my flat mate had turned on a software based FW without telling me!! I dunno, you lend people your car and they never put the seat back where they found it!! My WinMX is running slick as Owl S**t now, this 205 really is a nice piece of kit.
Clav
Nah, Peter, it's unlikely to be even similar, BT tend to put decidedly dissimilar innards in the various "voyager" routers. There will be similarities, however, and in general the stuff here is useful to owners of any router, but the telnet command syntax, for instance, will likely be significantly different, rendering the commands and ready-made scripts here quite useless to you.
But if you have a manual, we could certainly helo you decipher it.
Thanks Joker, I GOT IT!
Is this an eBay auction? sounds interesting! I haven't done much ebaying since I bust my PayPal limit, gotta get a card soon and do something about that.
Great news claviger! those firewalls are buggers aren't they! pretty soon they're gonna start turning themselves on! oh wait a minute, some do that already. And "transprot" is short for "Transport Protocol", I think.
okay, I got some PDF's to read..
;o)
ps.. gawd I love winding up those delivery guys (a job I once did myself).. /me signs electronic chitty.. "And erm, what's your last name sir?" .. "I don't have one, it's just 'cor'" .. "Ehhh?" .. "Look! On the box. c. o. r. cor." .. "eeerhhmm..." .. "like "madonna, or prince, cor, see!". .. "Ermm.." (delivery guy wanders off in a daze...)
Cor
Biding on 2 more.There's loads up for grabs?
Two new and 1 used. Will send you one up monday with ram
Donated to help with your probing of the 205s many
can someone explain how to get this box to work with my tiscali line? want it so i can use two laptops at once, as the Tiscali router only has one port.
thanks
bios 1.8 RuLeZ ! ! !
I have a strange problem. My setup is as follows: I have an 8 port switch connected to the router, and connected to the switch I have a wifi access point and 3 other puters.
This is where it becomes weird. My main puter I use does not download or respond to any internet related stuff as quick as the other 2 machines. All 3 mashines are XP SP2 and are laptops.
On the machine in question I have changed the network card Link Speed and duplex settings from Auto Detect to 100mbps/Full duplex but still no change.
Apart from the router firewall plus stealth recipes, I only use the XP firewall on all 3 machines and this it's only configured to the default settings
I use the 1 meg broadband package from BT but on this machine it looks more like I'm using a dialup modem. It is not a fault on the broadband side as the other 2 machines are ok, thus the fault lies with this one particular pc.
jimbo sausage, have you heard of a thing called a "switch"? Well, now you have. The voyager only has one ethernet port, too. So use your tiscali router + a switch, or reconfigure your voyager with your tiscali user/pass before you connect it to the phone line, should work. You'll still need a switch if you want to reliably share your connexion.
Thanks for the heads-up stefan, but still no one will actually tell me what improvements 1.8 has over 1.6. The disadvantages are starting to filter through, though.
Uncle Bob, this is a tricky one. If it were me, I'd probably start by testing the basic LAN stuff first. Setup an FTP server, or similar, on one of the good machines and download from it on the slow machine. Is it still slow? (FTP is usually the fastest way to get files over a network).
If it *is* slower, then it is probably some basic LAN connexion issue. Check the network card (reinstall that driver), connexion speed (auto is usually the best option, btw), physical connexions, test the cables, (simply switch cables if you have no LAN tester - I do - cheers Joker!), etc, etc.
If not, look closely at the digits of its network settings. Subnet numbers can be quite incorrect and still work, albeit not so reliably. An incorrect DNS server entry, too, can make you think you are running with a dial-up because everything happens so s l o w l y.
And then I'd check that there wasn't a proxy configured on the system, because if there is, you could very well be surfing through a dial-up connexion and not even realise it, someone else's!
At this point I'd stop for a smoke and a cuppa
keep us posted!
Joker, what can I say!? after a year of completely unsubtle hinting, I will finally have a second 205!
three outta five ain't bad
;o)
ps.. Daniel Craig has finally been "officially" named as the next Bond. Great news!
Thanks Cor, that has worked. unfortunately, one of the laptops is around 5 years old and doesnt have an ethernet port, so thats having to run USB. thanks again.
Tried different cables, changed option back to auto select, reinstalled driver after downloading it from Sony update again. I use dhcp so no subnet/dns issues, cannot find any proxy configurations, reset the router, enabled firewall, ran your router automatic deletions batch file, enabled Stealth and Security, Standard Attack Protection, NAT and Blacklist Protection then changed router password and saved. Still slow. WiFi Access Point is WPA protected, but turned it off just in case.
Had 2 cigars (I smoke cigars as cigarettes are BAD for you) and a coffee. Have not done the FTP part yet. Please point me in the correct direction to the "Dummies-GUIDE-to-setting-up-ftp-server-on -good- machine -for-idiots-that-have -no-clue-WTF-they're-doing" so I can try that.
I'm getting so pissed off now just thinking about it as its a brand new sony laptop and I paid a furtune for this piece of sweat from a babboon's balls...
any way, just lit another Hamlet... ooo yeahhh!!!
Thanks Cor, that has worked, but i cant use the ethernet connection, only the USB one. when trying to connect through the ethernet, it comes up with "error 633: the modem or other connceting device is either in use or not configured correctly"
any ideas on what i need to do so that i can use both the ethernet and the USB on seperate laptops, as one doesnt have an ethernet port. thanks, James
Cor
and registerd dom'name ect'
I was Gob smack,t to see that from one of your
link DNS look up of some sort
That it came back with my full address and ID:number and all
my phone num's as well?????
Is this what happens?????
Regards Joker
Kev.
Have you got your 205 router connected to AOL for 2 PC's yet? Let us know as I have mine with AOL.
THUNDER
I have a voyager 205 router. I have reset it to default and gone into the admin part to access the ADSL settings through IE 6 ... I cannot get into the settings to see what they are when you click on the left side for the name. can anyone help. thanks... DT
Joker, yes and no. If you register your domain in your own full proper name with full address and telephone details, then yes, this is what happens. there are at least two alternatives..
The first is to register the domain with a company name or similar, which affords you some identity protection - you can use staff members for the "technical contact" details, etc, the second is to use godaddy's "private" registration, where they put their details in those spaces. Folk also use false names and addresses and whatnot, but the lagality of such practices is somehwat suspicious. I know one guy who works for the domain registry just inserts his domains directly into the root records!
Yup Uncle Bob, after twenty years of them, I'm starting to suspect this, developing a cough of sorts. Hamelts, eh? Hmmm. I wonder if my black-market tobacco supplier can get cigars
Setting up an FTP server is easy when you know how, but often a real challenge if you don't. There are a few real simple FTP server packages for windows, in fact, more capable Windows® have an FTP server built-in, and while I don't recommend that for production use, it would be fine for speed-testing. Even regular samba file sharing speeds would give you an idea, throw a big movie file around the LAN, and time it.
jimbo sausage, using ethernet and USB is dodgy. Best to use all ethernet. You can get a cheap USB >> ethernet adaptor that plugs into the USB socket and provides a regular CAT5 ethernet socket for your LAN (quick snap)..
I recommend something like this (and have a few handy spares - thanks Joker!). Then get a switch. As to your weird error, check this out.. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q191444/
DT, did you check out the troubleshooting page?
for now..
;o)
ps.. you can purchase a new PCMCIA ethernet card for under a fiver.
Does anyone know what a Layered Service Provider (LSP) is? Because my microsoft anti-spyware alerted me about it and also a new network was detected. Is this anything to do with BT Yahoo? (a new update perhaps?) Or is it spyware or something.
Cor
Sorry i havent sent 205 yet but none turnd up today.
So i will send as soon as thay get here m8
Dont worry it will be with you soon.
Regards Joker
I may have missed it, but is there a way to make the NAT work in a P2P friendly way - I don't mean eMule etc, I mean games.
What works well is if I send two UDP packets to different hosts from the same port on my PC, they should show as comming from the same port as each other (not necessarily same as original port).
eg, I send two UDP packet out of port 2000, they appear to have come out of ports 50046 and 50047 - not good for P2P games as you have to keep playing with the firewall.
I know I could do it with zipb and a sw NAT, but I was hoping to make the 205 do it for me ;-)
Hi,
I have a bt voyager 205 and need to stop my son from accessing a game called runescape. He spends hours on it and is behind at school. I have found out that it requires TCP ports 43594 and 43595 to work. Is there a simple way of bocking these and will it just revert back to normal if he resets the router?
Thanks
Bob Thomas
Bob, remove his connection until he catches up, simple!
Tara, check out this. Usually these are nothing to worry about, but like any tightly-woven network service functionality, there is the potential of abuse. Did you install something, or otherwise do something that might have caused this to happen? Updates don't "just happen", we install them, though sometimes we can instruct applications to update automatically, it's always mindfully done. Unexpected changes on a system are probably a cause for concern.
You might also want to check out this page, scroll down for a couple of shell command you can enter to reset the LSP's back to their default state, should you wish to try that.
Usually it's smart to deny any traffic you aren't 100% sure of. Hold it in "potentially threatening but possibly safe" status until you're certain. Generally, a quick google will tell you one way or the other.
tricky, take a look at the "bimap" rules of the NAT (as opposed to regular "rdr" redirect rules), that should do what you want.
Bob, yes, you could block the ports, which would prevent him playing the game, but yes, these will reset if he resets the router. You need to also control access to the router, either with the IP access controls, or restricting physical access to the unit, the best method.
There are also controls on the voyager to limit access by time so you might consider allowing full access between a limited time-frame, switching off at 11pm, or whatever.
Check the tricks page for some more info on this.
for now..
;o)
Cor
Regards Joker
hey!i bought a 205 2nd hand from ebay and i wish to use it soley for xbox live,
yet when signing in on xbox live via the 205 it connects but then says the DNS
servers cannot be reached, i am persuming that this is because the 205 has not
been fully enabled for this to happen. do you know how i can enable it?
(i am not with bt broardband, im with supanet so i cant acess the internet on the pc
with the 205)
any help, tips or knowlage would be truley appriciated!
I missed your comment above Joker, more hurry less speeed, as my mum used to say.
errr... Albert? Did you run the network setup on the xbox yet? You'll need to do that, I think, there's a disk for it. Check the static IP page for the settings. Then you'd probably want to just open the 205 up wide, let everything through. Either one big NAT rule (recipes page), or perhaps even zipb mode (tricks page).
Links at the top.
;o)
Thanks for the great site.
I still have a problem even after trying various remedies on your site and in the comments - I hope you can help.
I have a Voyager 205, which in turn is connected to a Belkin Pre-N wireless router. I have recently installed 2 Panasonic IP cameras on my network and can access them fine when at home. When trying to access them externally, I always end up with the Voyager page, rather than the camera page. I have 5 PC and Mac computers, all dynamically addressed. The camera has a static address of 192.168.2.253 and is apparently on port 80.
I have tried port fowarding. I have tried to ensure upnp is turned so, so the camera software can configure the router (it thinks upnp is disabled, even though I have used telnet to check it is on), I have tried to turn the 205 into a modem only, so the Belkin router than do the port forwarding. Nothing seems to work, although my net connection in all other respects is fine.
Just to make things more complicated, I want to run another virtual server which will be available externally. It is Homeseer, which is home automation software. I haven't tried this yet, but if you can say how I get 2 virtual servers accessible external, i would be very grateful.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Adrian
Well, Adrian, my first thought is that you have the voyager exposing its web services to the outside world. As well as a security hole, this is eating port 80, so it won't be available for forwarding.
Getting two or more "virtual servers" accessible externally is easy, I have a dozen or so, all accessible. Whenever you create a port-forwarding rule (or rather, rule "pair", one (or more) firewall - one (or more) NAT) you create a virtual server, accessible from outside. You can have up to twenty at once.
The dynamic addressing is complicating things. With such a large and complex network (for a home setup) it would make sense to assign everything a reliable static address, if possible, at least everything connected directly to the voyager.
Another possible issue is the camera being on a different subnet. How are you routing to this subnet? It might be easier to switch it to the same subnet as the router, ie. 192.168.1.253.
Apart from all that, you've followed the guidelines here, I presume, deleted other firewall rules, tweaked the connexion settings, etc, yeah? The default config is fairly crippled. Depending on how you've sdet things up, you might also want to consider a "catch-all" NAT rule for the Belkin.
That's all I can think of for now, keep us posted!
;o)
The only problem so far I've had using the Voyager 205 is that when I run Bit Lord (Bit Torrent program) I can't browse any web sites after a few hours. Bit Lord continues to run happily but I can't browse any websites. Anyone have an idea what I need to do? I'm using an ethernet connection and can't work out why Bit Lord will continue to download and upload whereas my browsers (Firefox and Internet Explorer) seem to stop working after a while. Thanks in advance!
Yes! Berni, you need to.. check out the troubleshooting page!
Links at the top, as ever.
;o)
Cor
Could it be the fact that a day before, I swapped back to usb because I needed to use my ethernet port for my xbox? When I turned on my computer, the usb didn't connect for some reason, It did happen before but I just turned the router off and computer off then turned everything back on and it worked again. And well THATS when it said a new network was found and was alerted by my anti-virus about the LSP changing. Can Anti-Virus by any chance have added something to the Winsock?
Um, also one more thing, what exactly do I enter those netsh commands into? And will this affect my connection in any way, or will I have to do anything extra after I reset the Winsock?
Sorry for the troublesome questions
Thanks in advanced, this is the first I've heard of Winsock and LSP's
Cor
Hello m8. Sent up 205 firt class you should
get it to if not by tomorrow.
Will sort later today.
Regards Joker
Sorry I meant to say that, it was the day before I had connected the usb up to the computer and shared the connection, but it was the FOLLOWING day when I turned on the computer and that the usb didn't connect and yet this LSP anti virus alert appeared and then my zone labs firewall popped up saying that a new network was found. (Just thought I'd say all that incase there was confusion. Yes I'm tired lol)
Cor
Tara, I wouldn't worry about it much. So long as you place new networks in the "Internet Zone" of ZoneAlarm, you'll be fine. You don't have a home network, as such, so *everything* is outside.
The commands simply reset the catalog to the default. It shouldn't harm anything, but probably isn't necessary, either.
If I were you, I'd pick up a cheap switch, and connect the xbox AND the peecee by ethernet, as per the instructions on these pages, you'll experience a *much* less troublesome version of the internet.
gotta dash..
;o)
ps.. the clock will be fine.. in November!
Ha! This is priceless..
I couldn't help noticing the leaflet that now comes with the 205.
It says IMPORTANT PLEASE READ! at the top, so I did.
Check the title..
BT Voyager 205 Router - Now with Ethernet!
But we know that it's always had ethernet, and while this isn't 100% proof positive that BT are following the fun and exploits here (even if the body text does bear some striking resemblances to my own USB warning) it does prove that BT are finally catching on. Sheesh! The next thing you know they'll be providing us with a working set of firmware tools.Wadda ye say, guys?
;o)
hey guys, what a reference on this router!
I have a little question...I think I am on the right track, I have plugged my ethernet 'out' from the Voyager into a ethernet Homeplug and I now have 2 Macs running fine (with DHCP'd ip's) sharing the one DSL connection in different areas of the house - could I connect (assuming I purchase another Homeplug) more than 2 machines - I mean will the Voyager assign more than 2 IP addresses? - I am guessing it should in the same ways as most routers will supply a range upto 200 odd addresses - but you never know with BT -have they limited it to no more than 2 IP addresses?
Many thanks if anyone knows this!
David.
Hey guys.
Im trying to set up a web server, using xampp on Linux slackware. Its sorta working, but not for people outside the local network:
If i go to localhost (127.0.0.1) then I can see the files on Apache. However, I am trying to set up a dynamic dns web adress. I have registered alancooney.homelinux.com on DynDNS, and pointed it at my ip. Now, when I go to the adress, I get my router's 192.168.0.1 page (this will probably happen if it works) so that seems fine, but other ppl try the adress, they get nowhere. Any suggestions on how to fix this please?
Worry not, DBS, the voyager will happily supply up to 255 unique IP addresses, and on multiple subnets, too. have fun!
Alan, I'm pretty sure that you'll find what you need on the toubleshooting page, but if not, get back here. The trick is to become a network packet in your mind, nomatter how strange that sounds, and do the journey yourself, checking as you go.
for now..
;o)
Yeh Ive gone through the troubleshooting page, and fixed half of the problem. Outside users can now get to my router, but it stops there. I need to route through to my machine on 192.168.1.6
Heres what I tried in telnet:
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$create nat rule entry ruleid 808 rdr prot num 6 lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.6 lcladdrto 192.168.1.6 destportfrom num 80 destportto num 80
Entry Created
Rule Id : 808
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Any suggestions? Also, please try alancooney.homelinux.com and check if its working for you because it could just be bad proxy settings (Im using auto-config file because single proxies are too slow.)
Alan, your port 80 is stealthed.
Did you add a firewall rule to go with that NAT rule?
You need both.
;o)
Yeh I have done that now and it all seems to work. Only one problem though - I need to get the router to auto-update the dns servers:
create ddns hostname ifname ppp-0 name my.dyndns.org
Should I replace my.dydns.org with alancooney.homelinux.com, or is that their dns server?
Edit: It seems to be working!!!!!!!!
Yup, Alan, it's working fine. And for your auto-update, you'll put your own server addresss, just like on the tricks page. I might drop into your Philosophy forum sometime!
;o)
remember to claim your free drinks if you are ever in the perth area!
Hey,
I'm using Bittornado currently and I've noticed that when I do have a torrent open, my internet connection completely drops to 0. I noticed this from my AOL Instant Messenger disconnecting and my torrent losing speed and dropping to 0kb. Once my torrent reaches around 30kb, thats when I noticed it suddenly drops to 0kb, AIM disconnecting and then it would just all reconnect again then the whole same process starts over. Is it my router or connection or what? Thank you if u can help.
xMariax, please put your tail between your legs and head to the troubleshooting page!
d1arm1d, one of these days I'm going on a world tour, gonna get really bleezin!
;o)
Great site! Much more useful than anything provided by BT.
The problem - as also posted in uk.telecom.broadband
**********************
Hi,
A friend has BT Broadband (not sure which flavour). She experiences
regularly ADSL disconnects. This may be due to line problems but I
would like to try a firmware upgrade on her Voyager 205 modem.
She is using a BT Voyager 205 as supplied by BT. With some Googling
and the excellent site
http://corz.org/comms/hardware/router/bt.voyager.205_router.how-to.php
I have logged on to the router via telnet and found the current
firmware is 1.1 . In fact the full system parameters are
$get system
Model : Viking
Name : voyager
Domain Name : home
Description : DSL Modem
Location : GlobespanVirata Inc.,100 Schulz Drive, Red Bank,NJ
07701,U.S.A
Contact : GlobespanVirata Inc.,100 Schulz Drive, Red Bank,NJ
07701,U.S.A
Vendor : GlobespanVirata Inc.,100 Schulz Drive, Red Bank,NJ
07701,U.S.A
LogThreshold: 1
Object-id : 1.3.6.1.4.1.50000
HwVersion : 810020
SwVersion : V1.1
DSL Version : Y1921a
System Time : Sun Oct 23 07:08:37 2005
Time Zone : GMT
DST : On
Services : physical datalink internet end-to-end applications
UpTime(HH:MM:SS) : 0:14:49
Backup Interval : Disable
$
Now I have also downloaded the latest 1.8 firmware from the BT site
- so optimism is high.
However, the only way to upgrade the firmware seems to be through
the modem's Web interface. Now, I log on to the Voyager and I see all
the menu options down the left-hand side
Quick-Start
Trouble-shooting
Advanced
I click on "Advanced" twice as directed in the BT instructions. All I
see is the "Quick Start" page which shows me the connection status,
uptime, bytes transmitted and received etc. In fact I only ever see
this statistics page whatever link I click on. The router sometimes
prompts me for a userid and password and sometimes does not. I guess
this navigation problem is due to a Web broken interface that might be
cured by the firmware upgrade.
The point of all of this is I can't get to the page on the Voyager
Web interface where I can load the new firmware - the page just can't
be navigated to. Is there any way I can upgrade the Voyager firmware
using the CLI?
I could bring up my Net DG824M for a weekend and see how stable that
is - but it would be nice to get this simple Voyager device stable.
Thanks
Clive
Hi People i wonder if u can help me,ive got a bt voyager 205 installed the only problem is when i go into control panel,internet connection i cant see it installed,what i get is 3com 3c920b-emb-wnm inte & when i go to my browser and type in http://192.168.1.2 it says Bad Gateway
The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server.and when i type in http://192.168.1.1 it goes to microsoft site ??? please help me
Hi,
I'm using a BT Voyager 205 as supplied by BT.
Thanks to your site I logged on to the BT site for the Voyager 205 Firmware Version 1.8 and obtained it.
I then logged on to http://192.168.1.1/hag/pages/home.htm and not a lots happening!
As you know the only way to upgrade the firmware seems to be through
the modem's Web interface, above. When I log on to the Voyager and I see all the menu options down the left-hand side:
Quick-Start
Trouble-shooting
Advanced
I click on "Advanced" directed in the BT instructions. The router prompts me for a user id and password. I supply this. And as I said nothing, I guess this navigation problem as Clive suggests.
Any thoughts on the matter? BT don't seem to be of any help what so ever on this issue.
Cheers, Ian (frustrated in the UK)
Clive (and Ian), I suspect your answer is on the troubleshooter page, the first couple of sections. The web interface isn't broken in earlier viking models, it's just tricky (in all versions), uses lots of Javascript, etc, and some browsers/firewalls/security services/etc take umbrage to this. Try a different browser, and then try the tips on the troubleshooting page.
You shouldn't need to click anything twice (that's an old tip from the earliest comments here) if everything is running fine, perhaps they meant you click "Advanced" in the left pane, and then "Advanced" again from the main pane that appears. That's when you should get asked for a password.
It really does work. And there's those admin page selector thingies right above these comments if it doesn't!
Clive, the phrase "She experiences regularly ADSL disconnects" makes me think.. USB. She's not using USB, is she? The 1.6 firmware is good. I use that. There may be issues with 1.8 and the "ready-made" script available here, something I'll be testing real soon.
And lastly, you don't need the web interface to flash the firmware, you could use tftp client (from weird solutions - see useful links section), though you might want to try the browser stuff first.
wayne, check out the static IP page, ensure your settings are like those. Also ensure (control panel - internet options - connections - LAN settings) that you don't have a proxy configured for your machine. This issue rings a bell, actually, and it might be something else entirely. Maybe something messed with your hosts file.
DO read through the pages here, upload one of the ready-made scripts, and get the router/peecee setup properly. As well as understanding things better, you'll have a better idea about what's not broken.
for now..
;o)
quote
Clive (and Ian), I suspect your answer is on the troubleshooter page, the first couple of sections. The web interface isn't broken in earlier viking models, it's just tricky (in all versions), uses lots of Javascript, etc, and some browsers/firewalls/security services/etc take umbrage to this. Try a different browser, and then try the tips on the troubleshooting page.
/quote
Yep, you are right. I thought I had read your trouble-shooting page. Obviously not :shame:
I tried all sorts of things to ENABLE Javascript for the router pages - but could not find any relevant settings in Norton IS nor in IE browser. I tried disconnecting the router from ADSL and completing disabling Norton IS - all that happened was that when I tried to acccess 192.168.1.1 IE browser eventually - after a long pause - said the address was unreachable.
Anyway, I have re-enabled Norton IS and the pages under "Advanced" to load the new firmware have now appeared! However, my friend isn't around and I don't want to upgrade without her around. Too many firmware upgrade nightmares in the past ....
quote
Clive, the phrase "She experiences regularly ADSL disconnects" makes me think.. USB. She's not using USB, is she? The 1.6 firmware is good. I use that. There may be issues with 1.8 and the "ready-made" script available here, something I'll be testing real soon.
/quote
Nope - she is using ethernet - no USB in sight.
However, I guess version 1.1 to 1.8 firmware is far enough apart for me to hope a problem like disconnects is part of the fix list.
Thanks
Clive
When using the Win Auto deleter (rad.bat) it exits at 92 (twice so far in 2 diff' incarnations of my set up - inc. a fresh d/l of the bat file). Is this right? I have deleted the rest manually, but why drop connection on 92? Have I done s/thing wrong?
P.S. Aberdeen too :) Wheee!
everything is good ou7shined, the last rule that should be deleted is 92 ;) the script only deletes the rules that are automatically added to the router when turned off an then back on :)
Hi things were starting to look better ...
I finally got the Advance tab to open so that the following was displayed:
ADSL
IP Addressing
IP Routing
Security
System
On selecting System to update the Voyager 205 from version 1.1 to 1.8, nothing happens!
BT phone help did not know what I was talkiing about, no supprises there.
I must be missing something blindingly obvious, but I just don't see it.
Give me a clue please.
Cheers, Ian (frustrated in the UK)
Hey guys is there a guide anywhere on here that explains how I can create a DMZ (atleast I think that's what it's called) to play my PlayStation 2 and Xbox online?
I did a search and it found a result but it just links here to this comment page and call me lazy but I can't really be bothered to read through them all.
Is there anyway I can keep my current settings (I've applied most of the tips from this site and have forwarded a lot of ports for P2P etc.) and set one of these up to play Pro Evolution Soccer 5 online?
I don't check this page every day and the comments seem to keep coming pretty fast so I hope I don't miss any replies I might get, thanks in advance.
It all sounds good Clive. The javascript settings for IE are in the Internet Option Control Panel, IE being "integrated" into the windows desktop. The v1.1 firmware certainly did have issues, certain kinds of internet usage would cause the voyager to freak-out, flash all its lights and promptly die.
Back to the Javascript, I love the stuff, and I look forward to a time when browsers allow users to easily switch it on and off at will, on a site-specific basis. The current strategy of "security" applications interfering with the Javascript code itself in an attempt to nullify potential security threats is seriously flawed; Javascript support is uneven at the very least, and even minor punctuation errors can bring the whole lot crashing down, or at least cause it to dramatically break, ask any web developer.
Internet Explorer is not a real web browser.
Internet Explorer was Microsoft's (highly succcessful) way of knocking Moz into a cock-hat, no more. Even its basic HTML and CSS support is shakey, let alone its Javascript handling. With so many excellent, standards-compliant web browsers kicking around FOR FREE*, the only excuse someone has for using IE is "I'm just too fucking lazy to install a real web browser", and really, that's no excuse at all.
I know what you mean about firmware upgrade nightmares, Believe it or not, I'm one of those rare few who actually did experience a power-outage bang in the middle of a firmware update operation. CD Burner, been dead ever since. As a side note, it should be mentioned that the Hydro Electric Company's new electricity pay-meters now beep *long before* the money runs out, and won't shut off during night-time hours, either. That's progress! And just shows what a few well-placed communications can do.
Yes ou7shined, Aberdeen rocks! If you have nice warm socks!
Ian, did you see the "special pages" I added to the admin selector? Direct route to the firmware update page. I'll add more of those as I come across them.
So, you got to the page anyway, and followed the instructions here and uploaded the TEImageV18.bin file. Hmm. Exactly what errors are you getting?
Ceph, DMZs are bad news, generally speaking. Most folk desiring to set one up have just heard that it might be a good idea, but it usually isn't. Far better to create port-forwarding rules like you did for the other applications.
You will definitely want to consider my own patented "Perfect Stealth" technique. All you do is replace your second stealth rule with a single rule (okay, a pair, one firewall, one NAT) routing ALL traffic (that hasn't been caught by your earlier p2p rules, etc) to your games console.
As well as saving you the hassle of creating particular rules for individual games, actually, no, that's all it does.
What makes it so cool is that when you don't have a console plugged into the network, the router responds to incoming packets with a "Destination Unreachable" message, whic looks almost exactly like you don't exist, as opposed to the "usual" method of stealth which is to drop the packets entirely, which clearly spells "F I R E W A L L". Check out the stealth page for some more information about this.
l*rz..
;o)
I might try that out, thanks for the answer.
Thanks guys. I will indeed check out the GUI version for future..erm..ness. But 'til then I can sleep soundly in that afore mentioned warm fuzzy...erm...ness.
Bye th' noo.
Hi there..
I'd like to know if is possible I block or limit the USB port on my BT voyager 205dsl modem, can you help me to do this??Please send the reply to rodrigovelasco25@hotmail.com
Thanks
If by limit you mean traffic shaping and stuff, then no, there is currently no way to achieve this with the router, though I absolutely agree that this is the very best place to do such things, and hopefully router manufacturers will come around, eventually.
Block, yes, that's fairly easy. The voyager *creates* the individual interfaces at bootup, so all you have to do is prevent that happening for the USB interface. Start by exporting your current configuration to a file (save or "commit" first). Open the file in a text editor and find the line that reads..
Delete it. Then upload your config back to the router (with FTP). Bingo, no USB!
;o)
ps.. I don't do email replies
Hi I have been having problems with the in game browser updating speed in Battlefield 2. I open the port ( made nat and firewall) for 16567, also did you stealth stuff. Oh and saw http://corz.org/public/docs/comms/router/game_ports_for_router.html and open ports 21999 - 22010 on udp and tcp. However the updating is terribly sloooooww. Any ideas? Hvae no connection problems just the in game browser updates slower than a milkfloat?
The FULL port list for Battlefield 2 (as taken from portforward.com link in the useful links section - above) is apparently, wait for it..
TCP: 80, 4711, 29900-29901, 1024-1124.
UDP: 1024-1124, 1500-4999, 27900, 28910, 16567, 55123-55125.
Which is a lot of ports!
Do you have rules for all those?
;o)
ps.. well reminded, I gotta update or trash that list!
err he's probably experiencing that mx connections thing :P happens on ALOT of games on server browsers..or what's that other thing called, that you can use to find servers for games? bah cant remember xD
Try telnet'n this to your router :)
modify nbsize maxipsess 512
which allows you to have more connections at any given time...
and you may also want to play with the TCP/UDP timeout setings...this will still cause slow down when you browse for servers....but...after it's done refreshing/searching...your connection should come back before it completely disco's :)
modify nat global tcpidletimeout 3600 tcpclosewait 45 tcptimeout 30 udptimeout 90
Modify those to quite lowish number, those are the default :)
mine are currently at (these work great for CS:S, i have BF2 but never played it xD )
modify nat global tcpidletimeout 400 tcpclosewait 15 tcptimeout 10 udptimeout 10 enable
hope this helps ya man :)
To avoid this whole thing...you could just Download xfire, and use that to search for servers....it only uses one connection to xfire's server when searching for servers :) so that means you'll only be using one connection..an shouldn't have any trouble with your connexion :P
Tried opening every single port, makes no diff forgot to mention I had tried. To bael, those tweaks make my web browsing faster! But no difference to BF2.
Any other ideas? I set the global timeout real low, made no diff :(
I kinda thought you might have already done the tweaks, Recakk, which is why I didn't mention them (still a good call, though, Bael, always). Hmm.. you don't have something else running that eats connexions big, like KAD, for instance?
That xfire sounds like a real boon. Did you try that? I know that game server hunting can be a real drain on connexions, and doing it all via one connexion to the xfire server sounds like a serious plus. Do that!
Also, you could use Bael's cool ampsig-with-xfire-status!
l*z..
;o)
Hi,
I am having issued uploading the "pre-made" configuration file commitedcfg.cfg (default +p2p). I have an NIC. The problem is I log into the /home directory either via my browser or via CuteFTP. When I transfer the file as you said it does reboot and at first I thought everything was ok. I then opened up the contents of the commitedcfg file to find that all the settings haven't changed?
It seems that when I upload the commitedcfg file it reboots and puts the origonal file back on there from a backup like a system reset. Another good indication that it hasn't worked is that the file size hasn't changed at all (standard 9.67kb, stealth+p2p 10.15kb). How can I upload this file?
I have a thing u can add for hosting a web site on linux:
Its a good idea to put the following lines in /etc/HOSTS
127.0.0.1 yourdomain.com
192.168.1.6 yourdomain.com
(Replace 192.168.1.6 with your ip)
This solves alot of problems with dynamic content.
alan, check this out. I think I mention the hosts thing on the recipes page, too. By the way, it works for all platforms, in one way or another. The only gotcha being you gotta remember to remember to use a proxy if you want to do any "outside" testing. Thanks for the reminder, though, I too like to drop the good stuff in every once in a while!
chris, I'm guessing you have the 1.8 firmware. I haven't got around to upgrading to 1.8 yet, but I guess one or more of the commands has been "deprecated". Bummer. The voyager's default behaviour in cases of unacceptable configs is to load its default configuration and reboot, a good thing, really.
I hope it's not a useful command that's been chopped. Hmm. Until I get around to the firmware thing (yes, I'm putting it off - someone else might want to investigate and tell me which commands no longer work, and I'll just fix all the read-made scripts instead, do different versions) you'll just have to enter the tweaks in a telnet session.
Or better still; export that default config, edit it, upload again. You could mail me that config, too.
;o)
Cor
had to go away to work at short notice
been to Italy to do three 400Kv joints
on a sub-see cable,stuck on a cl/ship for
days but payed me well
ps will send ram tomorrow tuse'at latest
Regards:Joker
Alan, I used Firmware 1.6 initially but it didnt work, got quite a few error messages in the telnet session when I tried to upload the file manually. I upgraded to Firmware 1.8 but still it hasn't made any difference. I guess i'll go through the commitedcfg file myself and upload every line via telnet and let you know how I get on.
Voyager-205 with Linksys WRT54G Router:
It did take me a while to figure out the BT Voyager 205 Ethernet modem (...and I have several year's experience as an IT manager/engineer). This is because it is not just a modem but also a router in its own right and when connected to another wireless LAN router (such as my Linksys WRT54G), the two fight and nothing gets through.
The 'correct' network solution using either of these devices would be:
Voyager-205 + normal switch and or Wireless access point.
or
Basic DSL modem (non-router type) + Linksys-WRT54G
The website here helped me to figure out quite a lot about how the Voyager works:
http://corz.org/comms/hardware/router/bt.voyager.205_router.how-to.php
Basically, you either need to change the Voyager-205 into a basic modem:
http://corz.org/comms/hardware/router/router.tricks.php#zipb
...or change the wireless-router to operate just as wireless switch. I did the latter, as follows:
a.) leave the Voyager-205 set to its default settings (192.168.1.1)
b.) Set the router IP address of the Linksys to 192.168.1.3 and mask 255.255.255.0
c.) disable the DHCP server on the Linksys
d.) connect the output of the Voyager-205 to one of the four LAN connections of the Linksys-WRT54G. (Leave the Intranet/WAN port on the Linksys unconnected.)
Now the Linksys will just behave like a normal switch and the IP addresses will be assigned through the Voyager-205.
The PCs should connect through the Linksys using the wireless connection or one of the three remaining ethernet LAN ports. The network settings should be set to obtain IP address automatically and, once assigned, check that the default gateway is 192.168.1.1 (ie the Voyager). Make sure that the Firewall and NAT protection features are enabled in the Voyager, as those in the Linksys will be bypassed.
It should also possible to configure the Linksys as a 'router', rather than 'Gateway', in Advanced Settings so that its WAN port can be the connection to the Voyager, thus regaining one of the four LAN ports... But I could not get this to work. Likewise, the router elements of the Voyager can be disabled to make it into a simple DSL modem and the use the Linksys to do the firewalling and routing etc:
(Note straight-through patch cables are OK for all connections as the Linksys has automatic cross-over on its ports when necessary.)
BT Voyager-205 Firmware Problems:
Additionally, the Voyager-205, which was supplied by my ISP, had version-1.2 firmware which is very old in relation to the current v1.8. The modem sets itself up all right with access to ADSL, but I could not access any of the other set-up menus for the advance functions, even to upload the newer firmware. The same problems as mentioned above. The menus appeared, even the login promp, but clicking them got nowhere. Even with different web browsers and different browser/security settings.
This may be a common bug of this older firmware possibly when used with newer IE explorers. The way around this is to TFTP the firmware upgrade into the modem using TFTP Client 2.0 from 'Weird Solutions':
http://www.weird-solutions.com/download/index.html
With the new v1.8 firmware all the menus work properly.
Hi
Got a free bt voyager 205 the other day and found this site to be of much use.
I have set it up for stealth etc and configured NAT for Azureus,
My question is my firmware is currently 1.6.. if i upgrade to 1.8 will i have to redo everything ???
Also... What are the changes from 1.6 to 1.8 ???
thanks
Special thanks to the creator of this web page!! I manager to ammend all of the settings via telnet instead of uploadng the commitedcfg.cfg file.
The problem seemed to occur when inputting the following section from the cfg file:
create pfraw rule entry ruleid 15 ifname private dir in act deny
create pfraw rule entry ruleid 16 ifname private act deny
create pfraw rule entry ruleid 17 ifname private dir in act deny
create pfraw rule entry ruleid 18 ifname private act deny
create pfraw rule entry ruleid 19 ifname private dir in act deny
create pfraw rule entry ruleid 20 ifname private act deny
create pfraw rule entry ruleid 21 ifname private dir in act deny
create pfraw rule entry ruleid 22 ifname private act deny
create pfraw rule entry ruleid 23 ifname private dir in act deny
create pfraw rule entry ruleid 24 ifname private act deny
create pfraw rule entry ruleid 25 ifname private dir in act deny
create pfraw rule entry ruleid 26 ifname private act deny
create pfraw rule entry ruleid 27 ifname private dir in act deny
create pfraw rule entry ruleid 28 ifname private act deny
create pfraw rule entry ruleid 29 ifname private dir in act deny
create pfraw rule entry ruleid 30 ifname private act deny
create pfraw rule entry ruleid 31 ifname private dir in act deny
create pfraw rule entry ruleid 32 ifname private act deny
create pfraw rule entry ruleid 33 ifname private dir in act deny
create pfraw rule entry ruleid 34 ifname private act deny
create pfraw rule entry ruleid 35 ifname private dir in act callmgmt
create pfraw rule entry ruleid 36 ifname dmz dir in act callmgmt
create pfraw rule entry ruleid 37 dir in act callmgmt
It stated that no ruleid's can be created before ruleid 65.
This is the only problem I could detect with installation, missed this section out and hey presto! it uploads no problem.
well this is all bolox if u ask me. no matter what i did . i never got the bastard thing to work. i tried everything and sure i checked n double checked, nad still no fucking joy , oh and btww how the fucking hell do i get my upnp thing back, thanks to your advice to remove it , i dont have it no more and guess what no xp fucking disk to reinstall the machine back to he way it came configured ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
this is pure bullshit and it aint just me many people i know are having the same crap even folowing thru the telnet shit hidden and dangerous deluxe and had2 and sabre squadron , i used to be able to host with ntl, but since bt stuffed that up i cancelled my direct debit and they aint getting a single fucking penny outta me , i am now illegally connected to this piece of shit net thru ntl and guess what i still cant host and i w\nt to know how to put the upnp thing back on. shit
Cor
Sorry about my post but i hate people like him
Regards.Joker
ps.Got'him
I'm using ZipB mode on my Voyager, mainly because I already have a router for my network and the Voayger was free, so ZipB mode was recommended for me to use until I get the ADSL card for my box, anyway in using ZipB mode i was hoping that all ports would be connected straight across (bridged), but it seems that the Voyager is still using the IPF rules, so I created some new ones, but because I as using ZipB, both sides of the router are now my WAN IP, can anyone help me create a rule that will allow those ports to pass straight throught, removing them at present allows direct access to the Voyager system.
Thanks
hey to the creater of this page....
WOW nice one its been no end of help!
Cheers so much!
hello!i need help for configuration my router BT voyager 220 ,for Emule program.thanks
Hey! Joker! No worries! I've not been around much myself this last week [as evidenced by this very thread - at least until I start deleting! -ed], everything times to perfection, usually. Looking forward to it!
User457, I really don't think there is much difference between 1.6 and 1.8 other than 1.8 makes the ready-made configs break. The BT site didn't mention the actual changes, or did I just miss that? I still use 1.6 here.
Unless you have a compelling reason to upgrade to 1.8 (and without knowing what the changes are, how could you?) then stick with 1.6. If it ain't broke, you know. It's not like fifa or something, firmware upgrades are mainly very minor changes to FIX SPECIFIC issues. If you don't suffer from those issues, you are as likely to create trouble by upgrading. I'm speaking about firmware in general. Though none of this stops too many folk upgrading their various firmwares the instant a new one comes out for no better reason than "to have the latest".
I'm not sure what you're asking Arnie. All that stuff is here, yup. Folk often post that sort of thing (with appropriate links to this place) in other forums, etc, but not usually here. The source material is here! It's good to hear about working setups, though; useful reference material for when I do updating, improving, etc. It is all working, yeah?
fucked off n pissed off, uPNP is a Windows service. If you disabled it (with the services console) then why don't you simply enable it again in the exact same place.
And seriously, did you really expect to switch ISPs AND your network hardware all-at-once and not do some tweaking to get everything working? Maybe in the future dude. In the meantime, the real world awaits you!
Chris, thank man! I'll start with those when I get around to the 1.8 ready-made upgrades, perhaps soon. Perhaps. Any chance of seeing your default exported config? (mail is good)
Fran, although both sides may be the same IP, outside is still outside, and incoming is still incoming, as far as I know. Show us what rules you used, the non-working ones.
sakarova, check out the recipes page.
for now..
;o)
ps.. FUCK! did it again, in too much of a bloody hurry!
pps. the next time I do this, instead of typing everything again, I will simply type "cor is in pain. back later". Damn! more that ignorant, arrogant, abusive posters (easily deleted) I HATE, really, truly HATE losing data. Well, at least this time I had the first half in my clipboard.
Hey, I have not idea about anything so could all advice be REAL simple LOL!
I have been having probelms with the 205 also, someone set it all up for me but is no longer any help whatsoever, I have the 205 going to a hub then with the rj11's from the hub to the pcs. I regularly get timeouts when pinging stuff (do this to check connection) web pages sometimes cannot be displayed, and as above BF2 server list is virtually non exsistant!!!! With my internal modem all works fine, but as soon as I go thru the 205 it all goes to sh*t!
I see that I may have to open ports, I have NO idea how to do this and have no manuals here cause I got the 205 off a mate (could be the problem)!
Anyhelp would be greatly appriciated!
Cheers
Carlos, start by reading this page. I think the advice here *is* pretty simple. But you have to read it, of course.
The recipes page will help you with the game setup, opening ports, etc. Check what firmware you have. If it's 1.6, upload one of the ready-made scripts and save some time. Better idea; grab one of the games ones and edit whatever ports you need, upload it. tada.
It certainly takes a lot less time to read these pages than it took to write them. Have fun!
;o)
Yes, I know now that all the stuff is here on this site, but when I was initially googling for the information, I came across it in bits and pieces: some on the forum postings, some on the published articles on this site and some on other sites. I was just trying to link it all together in one posting for others who might be trying to solve this particular problem without having to go through everything to find the solution.
3 days...3days with Symantec Firewall, Voyager Firewall and couldn't get my webserver up...Solution was in very tiny letters on the troubleshooting page. ****** Windows Firewall x-(
Anyways, great site, learnt a great deal (like what a waste of money symantec firewall was although at least I have an anti-virus now)...
Hi, i've been having trouble downloading torrents with my BT 205 router. Basically the speeds SUCK. I've followed the guides word by word, but just can't get the ports open! 6881-6889 just won't work, so i tried 13000-13010, still no luck. I have no ideawhat else to try, any ideas?
Found a tweak on another site which has cured my dropped conection problem.
I'm using the Voyager 205 with a Belkin AP, the wireless connection would frequently drop then reconnect.
Fix ......Stop and disable "Wireless Zero Configuraton" in services.
Greetings,
Could anyone help me out here? What I want to do is set up the Voyager 205 modem so that it lets all traffic from the Internet in and out. I don't want to be making rules for this and that, typing cumbersome commands - that's for Linux-heads.
My firewall (KPF) does the job of firewalling nicely, anyway. And no, I don't care about the risks!
So do I just create a single NAT rule for all traffic? Any other values that need to be changed? One more question: is 'off' really 'off' for the IP Filter?
You may think I'm asking in the wrong place, but really this is the only forum with people who know their Voyager 205.
I'd really appreciate if someone could clear this up and not be constantly giving reasons why it's not such a good idea. I don't want to be a NAT/Network/iptables head, I just want to use the Internet!
Thanks, if you can help,
Paddy.
Re the lump of metal thats squashing your voyager to keep it cool and the brave thats put heatsinks inside.
I was all ready to make up a fan driven heatsink clamp thing but found out by accident that none of this is neccessary.BT have the answer right in front of us.
My voyager is sat on the shelf infront of me and its cables run down a gap in the back .
I pulled it out off the shelf to measure up for my contraption and then temporarily left it dangling vertically from it wires.Its in constant use (the boys xboxlive).Guess what -it runs really cool like this-you can just feel a slight warmth underneath.
How are bt ahead of us? theres mounting lugs underneath for screwing it to the wall.
Possibly a flat metal plate between the wall and the unit might be neccessary for a bit of a heatsink effectbut its much neater like this
I'mn with ya Arnie, I like the idea of these solution nuggets, too. The trouble with dropping them here is that they slide off the page so quickly. What might be more useful is to let me know which bits I don't have here, and then I'll add them!
I'm considering creating a different kind of search engine, one that can return "chunks" from large text documents (like these comments), but that's a long way off, probably, in the meantime I gotta get all the juicy stuff where people can see it, by hand.
andy, yes, unless you can get those ports open, your torrent speeds will suck. So first put bittorrent out of your mind and get the voyager setup. Run through the checklist on the troubleshooter page, I guarantee you've missed something.
Then test with a *real* busy torrent, Something with 100+ seeds. There's no reason not to get - as I am this very instant - 220Kb/s+, but first get the unit setup. Once the basic setup is done, it's trivial to add more p2p apps, servers, etc.
alanb, thanks for that. As a rule I generally disable all services except the ones I actually use. Any Windows service that "tries to be clever" is first to go, because they invariably aren't.
Paddy, you are in catch 22. As far as I know, the only way to get the router to do what you want is by "typing cumbersome commands", though I generally copy & paste from a clipboard, and not for a long time; once setup, it's setup. So, do you want to enter commands? One single rule allowing all traffic in all directions would cover you. You'd need to keep the firewall/nat enabled, though, for it to function. Ironic.
Simply disabling the firewall probably won't have the effect you desire, certainly not if you want to indulge in any of the more interesting internet communications. You might want to try just running the 205 as a modem (tricks page), but again, you'll need to enter commands to do this.
Also, as far as I know, Linux users enjoy a good GUI as much as anyone, but they also understand the value of the right tools for the right job, and for this type of thing, it's a command line, clear, logical, scriptable, etc, and aren't afraid to get their hands dirty, our hands dirty, make mistakes.
Few people consider the true power of "having a backup".
It would be cool if the voyager had a nice page in its web interface that enabled you to choose between "simple modem", "firewall and NAT", etc, etc, but it doesn't. That's why I spent so long creating these pages, and all the ready-made scripts and other goodies, so you can just upload whatever you need, pretty much. There aren't scripts for every situation, of course, but tweaking these things is easy enough in a text editor, and all the know-how for that is here, too.
You don't have to become an ubergeek to effectively use this device, but it sure doesn't hurt to learn a few things. Not only will it empower you, give you a sense of control, etc, but will make your computing environment a helluva lot safer. Those people advising against all this have your welfare in mind, remember that, and whether you like it or not, they are giving you "good" advice. I wouldn't trust a windows firewall as far as I could throw it, which is no distance whatsover, being software. A voyager 205, on the other hand, can be easily hurled over a hundred yards in the right wind, being a hardware, external firewall, something that just a few years ago, mere mortals could only dream about owning, and want to use KPF instead!
Thanks ev, I'll keep this in mind for the cooling page I intend to get around to sometime. I did notice the wall mounting brackets myself, even hung it up for a while, but the old paper punch is more elegant, I think, and makes a nice wee tower of my network hardware.
Thanks all.
;o)
Hi, I posted a while back, I've found this router to be one of the best ADSL routers I've played around with. First a little background of my net connection: I have a /29 routed IP block, which gives me 6 usable IP addresses for my ADSL. This means I can have 6 devices, each with an external IP on my home LAN.
This raised a few problems with the BT voyager, it was perfectly willing to work with public IP addresses, however, it wanted 3 of them. 1 for ppp-0 (ADSL), 1 for eth-0 (Wired Ethernet) and 1 for usb-0 (USB).
The solution? First thing I did was using telnet, remove the usb-0 interface. This was simple, the next step, and the one that I've taken the longest to get round to doing, is to somehow make ppp-0 and eth-0 share a single IP. Setting this manually didn't work, ZIPB mode is an option, but I'd like the Voyager to do routing in case, in the future, I'd like to add a private IP address range for other PCs on my LAN.
The solution, hidden in the manual, is to use a IP Unnumbered PPP Interface. This creates a ppp interface that takes its IP from the ethernet interface's IP. So I set the ethernet interface IP to one of my public IPs, the WAN IP is set to the same, I end up with 5 usable IP addresses. You can then also add NAT for a private IP range, which is incredible!
Details are on page 40 of the reference guide.
Thanks corz for this great page detailing perhaps the best home ADSL router available.
I have two questions:
1) How can one get access to the router administration web page (or telnet interface) from the internet?
2) Is it possible, from the router administration tool, to find out the IP address that has been dynamically assigned to the connexion by the provider?
Can not get Zipb mode to work with my Linksys WRT54G. I followed all instructions, the WRT54G does grap the IP address but then nothing. Can not ping from the linksys, can not do anything.
Have even reset both modems and WRT54G to see if that helps. Nothing. Please help, what am I missing?
Karem
First, thanks for all the info provided on this site (i would of been screwed without it
Heres a little info on my setup:-
4 pc's connected to a d-link dfe908dx hub.
Voyager 205 connected to the uplink port of the hub.
All pc's have static ip's (from 192.168.1.3 to 192.168.1.6)
Using 2mb BT line.
Thanks to your site everything is running pretty much fine. I decided not to worry about stealthing my voyager because when i tried it the party ended
My son and i both play battlefied 2 and we can both play on the same server at the same time. (your advice on the max connections and tcp/udp timeout rules really helped) The problem comes when one of the girlies in the house starts using MSN messenger and it just lags the game to death. I'd expect it to be a problem if they were sending or receiving files but even when they are just chating or using the webcam the lag becomes unbearable.(my old alcatel speedtouch USB frog could handle it all fine)
So i'm thinking that it's not a bandwidth problem because even when only one of us is playing and someone opens msn on another pc,the same thing happens.I visited the games portforwarding site but it tells me the Voyager cannot run BF2 because it will not allow you to open enough ports?? I dont really understand that statement because it runs great and im not using any port forwarding rules at all. Maybe they mean the Voyager wont allow you to run BF2 as a server??.
Should i be setting up port forwarding for MSN and BF2? or do you only need to do this if your stealthed?.I guess the easiest option would be to tell my wife and daughter they have to find somewhere else to live but i'm willing to try any sugestions first
If anyone could help out i'd really appreciate it.
Thanks very much for that Murray-Mint, another great solution destined to slide off the page. I'll grab it, though, like Arnie's one, and do something with it. It's sounds like a complicated setup you have, do you really need all those IP's? Anyways, another cool voyager trick I hadn't heard of. I agree, the voyager is a capable wee box.
Speaking of Arnie's post, Karem, did you read that? It slid off the page. Go back one, you may find what you need right there, or on the tricks page.
008, good move, MI5 getting voyagers in!
You can get access to the web interface from the internet by simply enabling that, here.
Once inside, you can see the assigned IP address from the ppp page. I suggest getting yourself a dynamic (dyndns.org) address for connecting in the first place. Then you could get the IP from any place in the internet by simply running a DNS check on your dynamic address. If that's all you want in for, you can kill two birds with one stone this way!
Jay, this is a tricky one, because there could be a few possible issues. Is it only MSN that does this? Would, for instance, regular web browsing, or email cause this? I agree, it's probably not a bandwidth issue, you won't be using a fraction of it, but it may be a maximum connexion issue, possibly a ports conflict (no one really knows what ports BF2 uses!) or something else.
Without seeing your config it's difficult to say, but I'd definitely recommend you start by stealthing and making proper rules for the servers you use (most games are servers, by definition, in that they accept incoming connexions). Stealthing is more than security, it's two simple rules that set a base configuration that is easy to work on, gets us all on the same page, too.
Start by backing up your current config (in the web interface, save first. in telnet, first "commit"). Then you can mess around a bit without fear of losing your current setup, which works.
The biggest hurdle is probably going to be getting both games machines to work well, and your port-forwarding rules will probably need to cover a range of IP's (preferably right next to each other, i.e. 192.168.1.3 - 192.168.1.4) and have incoming packets arrive in a "round-robbin" fashion. I'd expect this to be about 50% effective, but every game is different I guess, and it may work very well.
You might also want to consider the "perfect stealth" technique, where you replace the last (second) rule with a port-forwarding rule, but instead of sending the incoming packets to nowhere, send them to these two gaming machines instead. I hope they have firewalls on-board!
It sounds like some hassle and experimentation will be involved. I also have the feeling that I'm missing the real issue here, and you might want to send me a copy of your config so I can have a wee look at it. You might want to check out the router's logs, too, see if there's some other issue. I'm not familiar with MSN, but I know enough about it not to trust it. Maybe MSN is the issue, and MSN alone. Introduce the girlies to IRC, or something.
My head is a bit fuzzy today.
If anyone else has some ideas about this, bring them on!
;o)
After many hours of reading and fiddling about i've got my router into a usuable state. i.e. not getting disconnecting and having to restart every 5 minutes. I switched to Ethernet over USB, bought a switch and an NIC as recommended. Now i've managed to open up the ports to download torrents, the green light finally shows and i connect to near 200 peers on large torrents. But...the problem now is the speed doesn't go upto anywhere near 200kbs, it seems to hover around 30-40kbs, i have a 2mb connection, so i'm guessing there is something ive missed out here? It also takes quite a long while to actually start downloading anything, light will go green, connects to lots of peers/seeds, but 0kbs until like 20 minutes later. Any suggestions? Great site btw.
If you get a green light then you are fixed.
Router is 100%.
Nothing more to do.
The End.
etc.
Now to the torrent speeds..
All torrents start slow. That's the way it is. I came across an interesting CD of old "abandonware" games yesterday. Hundreds of seeds. Hundreds of leechers, but for the first ten minutes or so it came in at around 2Kb/s. Then 5-6Kb/s for another few minutes. Then I had a "piece".
You need to have a "piece" before you get in the swarm proper, and considered a real peer. At this point, my download speed lept and romped in at around 200Kb/s all the way, came down in minutes.
Not all torrents are this fast. Nothing like it. If I were to hit some magic number and call it my average torrent speed, it would probably be around 40Kb/s. It's those few really slow torrents that mess with the mean, you see. I've had torrents take a fortnight to complete! Thank God for Azzy.
Did you notice my "Useful Links" section above these comments? Check it out. There's a link in there for a set of torrents you can use to test your capabilities, use them. And, you get a great free Operating System to boot! (pun intended)
Another great test is something juicy from the top 100 at the pirate bay. Just for a half hour, though, you wouldn't want to complete the download, it would likely be something illegal.
I repeat. If you have a green light you are 100% good to go. Anything after that is simply "the net effect".
Happy torrenteering!
;o)
Cor
Thanks for the help bud...i'm now all stealthed up and ready to roll
oh and one more thing...
you mention on the stealth page that if you power down the router it will automatically re-enter a few rules.Is it ok to leave these rules in place? will it cause me to loose stealth if i leave them?. The only reason i ask is because i do turn the router off now and again so if these rules are no real problem, i'll probably just leave them on.
cheers.
First of all i appologise for the noob question i am going to ask i am pretty new to computers, i brought the bt voyager 205 modem/router so i could connect 2 computers to the internet i managed to get this working, now here is the question.
Is it possible to use the modem to network the two computers so that they share files and printers and allow me and my son to play multiplayre games over LAN.
Sorry for the stupidity but any help would be appriciated.
Cor, i did read the post by Arnie and i can successfully set up the second method except I am then unable to ping between internal machines.
I have a desktop and a laptop that can not ping each other when dhcp'd from the voyager 205 as a router and a WRT54g as a glorified wireless switch.
hence I was looking at doing the option on the tricks page but getting very strange dhcp info from the voyager. the ip arrives correctly but the netmask seems to be 255.0.0.0 whereas when looking at the same info on the voyager 205 when it is a router the netmask is 255.255.255.255. however, even though the dhcp server gives an ip to my linksys router, the internal linksys router can not ping the voyager or anything external.
I have to try one more thing and that is to remove all ipf rules as I believe they are still active when in zipb mode.
Thanks, and advice would be welcome.
Karem
Geoff
The words "blind leading the blind" spring to mind here but what the hell
I've been struggling with my 205 since Saturday and cannot login to Yahoo from the device though I do seem to have a connection. I'm looking forward to reading what I've printed out but can you please put me at ease? If I get this up and running, what are my chances of then going wireless with the Voyager 2110 that I bought at the same time, indeed should I be bothering with the 205 at all?
Thanks
Well, traditionally, Monday is my day off, but I'm not going to let the fact that it's Tuesday get in the way of that! However..
Jay, regardless of what any science, textbook, or data sheet tells me, I'm a life-long member of the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" school of thought. With a stealthed router, you have the simple, secure base, something to add rules to as and when needed. If you find that something doesn't work, simply find out what port it's trying to use, and make a rule (pair) for it. But first wait until you find something that doesn't work!
To be honest, I can't remember what those rules are, the ones that are automatically re-inserted. I remember they mess with some of my servers, and I'm obsessed, okay, passionate about simplicity, so being erroneous is enough for me. I don't think they pose any serious security risk, but stealth is better. By the way (all), if you remove the second stealth rule, the one that drops all incoming traffic, the router will respond with "closed", aka "go away". This is also a secure state, in that your private machines are at no risk.
I didn't notice your config in my inbox, but I have a crazy back-log in there just now, so bear with me, but it sounds like you have things under control. Tell you what, if you post again here and stay connected (so your IP is unchanged), I'll do a security scan of your IP for you, all part of the service.
Geoff, get a switch. You won't regret it.
Karem, I'm fairly certain anything I have to say here would confuse the issue, in truth, I'm temted to believe the trouble lies with the linksys' setup. And yes, the firewall is still active when you go zipb, so removing *all* the extra rules is recommended (the first stealth rule should stay though, I think).
Esther, from what I can gather, you don't need the voyager 205 at all. Sorry to lose you, but hey! That voyager 2110 looks nice, by the way. adsl, 4-port LAN, and wireless. Neat!
l*rz..
;o)
Arnie,
I've the setup you have 205 voyager and linksys wrt54g, and the only change I needed to get the whole lot working via the linksys WAN port was to chance the ip range on the front page of the linksys from 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.2.1.
Everything else was set to defaults and it all works as it should.
Hi, iam new to all this router hacking. I have upgraded my firmware to 1.8 is the the best option for use with the above hacks?
Also i am having trouble connecting via ftp, smartftp dosent work. I can connect via the windows cmd line ftp client but i dont know many of the commands although i will learn. Is there a nice GUI app out there to allow me to get on with it quickly.
hi, wondering if you guys could offer me any advice when using bit torrent i seem to always get error messages in telnet
WARNING : ATM VC Congested : Interface - aal5-0, PortId=7, Vpi=8, Vci=38
can anyone tell me what this means and maybe even how to cure it ive already limited my upload speed to 25kb/s
thanks
also i seem to be getting good speeds but my torrents drop to 0kb/s every 10 seconds or so then build up again then drop and so on, even using netlimiter to limit my upload to 10kb/s and my download to 200kb/s (like im ever going to get that!!)
Have you looked into this tweak:
http://corz.org/comms/hardware/router/router.troubleshooter.php#connexions_max
what ftp client should i use to connect to my router?
i tried that again just in case but its still the same
Have you tried a different client?
yes tried about 4 in all now, also i got a brand new laptop today, gave it a static i.p same as what my desktop computer was and hooked that upto the router, everything looked fine at first downloading well and being able to surf at the same time then it dropped again even loading google would take ages.
this thing is really annoying is there a way of getting it to function as just a modem as ill at least be able to use the net reliably like that.
Cooling it - tried mine every way up but standing on one corner - still toooo hot.On pcb, beside right fixing post is square ic - found that got too hot - fixed 1/4 in x 1 in heatsink to it .Took drastic measure of cutting 20 cm hole in top, fitted fan ,screwed down case and powered fan from external psu. That was at least 3 months ago. been on 24/7 since - no probs.Mine will now be retiring - (hopefully) as i've gone to BT for Broadband and am getting a 2091 --so if you've got any info on 2091 wireless ones - please add them to this. If its half as good .......
I will start by saying i know very little about networking....now i have recently bought a DGL-4300 router what i want to know does anyone know a way of disabling the router aspect of the 205? so its just a modem. if not then am i right in thinking for every rule i setup for the DGL-4300 i will have to setup for the 205? I am thinking the best thing would be to ditch my 205.
Thanks for anyhelp
excellent site, many thanks and kudos to you, after reading this page i solved all my connection probs and fine tuned my 205
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a wee question for you which may be a typo on this page, the line ...
create ipf rule entry ruleid 6881 ifname public dir in act accept destport range 6881 6899 transprot eq tcp seclevel high medium low
should it better read ? ...
create ipf rule entry ruleid 6881 ifname public dir in act accept destport range 6881 6889 transprot eq tcp seclevel high medium low
the amendment is "6889"
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Hi,
Excellent site it has really given me the bug for security....can't stop trying to make things as secure as possible. Brilliant!
Just a quick question, my electricity goes off sometimes in my house and it keeps reseting my router back to its factory settings so when I'm at work I then can't get back into my home network. Is there a way of changing the factory settings to my settings so at least if the electricity does go off I can get back into my network?
cheers
This is to do with a question I asked a few days ago:
I can have access to my router administration web interface from the internet (thanks for the answer!) The problem is, if the router gets its IP dynamically assigned by my ISP, how can I access the web interface once the IP address has changed? Is there a way to retrieve such IP address? The thing that will never change in my PC is the MAC address; can that be used at all?
Kinda tied up still, so briefness..
Paul, try FlashFXP, the best FTP client for any platform, in my opinion. Remember to disable the "show hidden files (LIST -al)" option in your site setup (F4), the voyager doesn't like that.
Les, those messages are normal, as soon as you start doing any sort of traffic, we just ignore them. And for upload speed, try 20Kb/s max for the torrents, leaves room for spikes from elsewhere. Mine is half that.
Les Paul. Hahah. Coincedence, huh!
hohoho, I want pictures!
Chad, tricks page (links at top).
BunnyBoiler, if you are very rich, mail me!
leonskee, so long as you remember, there's no such thing as 100% secure. But there is 99.9% secure, and it's a fascinating adventure getting there, I imagine. As to the power-outs, so long as you "commit" (in a telnet session) or "save" (in the web interface), the unit should come back up the same as before. My own power used to do this sometimes, and I don't recall having to upload my config afterwards. Remember to keep a backup (exported) config anyways, for emergencies (see admin pop-outs above these comments for a quick link to the config export page on YOUR router).
008, that's what I was rambling about, the Dyndns thing. For instance, I can reach my workshop puters at corz.ath.cx, regardless of what my IP happens to be. That's what you mean, right? The voyager does the updating the instant you get a new IP, and automatically. Set and forget. I can't remember the last time I checked my dynamic domains, but I'll bet they're all current (my Linux server has a perl script to update the two-of-five-free-names that the voyager doesn't).
I missed someone.
;o)
Hi intelligent mac mates,
I would be very grateful if anyone out there can A) understand my problem and B) offer any support.
Being a loving son I gave my imac (model special edition yr 2000) to my dear old Mum and offered to set her up with BT Broadband - but having tried for 5 hours I'm still not quite there. The system is OS 9, the router is good old Voyager 205. I've followed the instruction cd to the letter but nothing is as it should be, sometimes when I launch explorer I'm in, but there's no connect button as it says there should be and I have to pull the plug to disconnect, I can't access any email page, it won't recognise the user name or password (but I'm in already?) The pages look odd (text looks very small and bitmapped even though all the imacs settings are okay) Tech guy (though very nice) wasn't much help, I described the pages I was viewing, and, what he said should be there wasn't. Have I lost anyone yet? Basically it doesn't work the way it says it should. Most of the time the minute I launch explorer the machine just locks up and I can't even get on! I followed the set up to the letter but it just didn't give me the options it said it would.
I'm not as stupid as the above most likely makes me sound, I've worked with macs for 13 years, it's just all by the book and if the book's wrong I'm stuffed. Look think of my old Mum not me, bring a little happiness into her life and please help a no good son help his Mum.
Cheers.
Doc Savage, K well don't shoot me :P as i know absolutely NOTHING about macs xD but i'm gunna ask is the router connected by USB? Do macs even have usb lol xD If so try switching to ethernet :P also un-install any and all BT software..an throw the CD away :P if it's 1/2 as bad on Macs as it is on PCs (sounds like it is lol) it'd make more use to you as a coaster :P I'm also presuming there's a telnet-ty type tool for macs aswell, use that to connectwith the router and input rules going thru all the pages on this site carefully :)
as i say i know nothing about macs, so i don't blame you if you just completely ignore me lol :P Wait for Cor to post, i think he has/had a mac :P
I have a bt voyager 205 router.Please can some one help me and tell me how to use it with aol.xp.
I think i need to change the log in and password on my router but dont have a clue how.Iv opened the ip address for it,then i stuck.Please help me.
I have a bt voyager 205 router.Please can some one help me and tell me how to use it with aol.xp.
Bael:
Thanks for the response, I shall try it out – can't do any harm.
Cheers.
Hi.
As a result of the hamsters at Aberdeen Power going on strike and causing a city-wide power outage I had to d/l the majorly helpful RAD shell script again (thank again btw) and while here I noticed Jays post about the automatically entered rules on router power-ups. I've been meaning to mention this for a while here, that after applying all the valuable router fixes and trixes provided in these pages, I get better torrent d/l speeds if I then switch my 205 off and then back on again.
Obviously something advantageous (or a correction to what I consider to be my ultimate set-up) is being added. Is it just a case of d/l'ing the cfg's before and after, then comparing the two in notepad to see what's been added or would this be a big waste of time?
Great stuff on this site, immensely helpful. Usually my web browser will simply die when I open up a torrent client, or my router will just disconnect, well basically my whole technology kit will go into dump, but after tried all the possible solutions, finally dun have to put up with all the hassle. GOOD WORK BIG GUY!!
Just a quick question tho, I've got the BT 2M package, set my u/l 20kb(sometimes 15 if not feeling generous:p), the d/l speed still vary from around 6-30kb. Is that normal?(with 20ish seeds). I have checked the check list(passed the test:p), and couldn't find anything went spectacularly wrong...maybe...that's just the way it is??(everything aside, still extremely chuffed about browsing websites and using bit torrent @ the same time~)
Excellent site matey
Not only has the info here solved the problems I've been struggling with on the 205, but it's very well written.
At points I actually felt like I knew what I was doing instead of just bashing in random commands.
Much appreciated.
Cheers!
-z
Just got my 2091 wireless ADSL router from BT.Did take a pic, but poor - will try again when light better.( But if you've seen one 205, you've seen 2091, without aerial)
In absence of pic will describe 2091, probably no one will then need a pic.
Front panel - ( same case as 205) one says BT Voyager205 ADSL Router, other says BT Voyager 209 Wireless ADSL Router.On rear - WOW there is a difference - the sockets on the 205 read dsl to power left to right . on the 2091 this is right to left and the aerial is last.
Run it for 10 mins - Yep gets as hot.
Looked at http:\\voyager.home - yep same there , only difference is addition of wireless menu. - aint brave enough to try CD - Puter dont need a format .
So it looks on the face of it as if what works for the 205 will work for the 2091.
Doc Savage, yup, go ethernet. The voyager is completely platform independant, so long as you setup the network correctly (static IP page) in the system prefs, it will work fine. Don't even install the USB drivers.
gary blake, oggy, that works fine, so long as you remember to insert your user/pass (in the main page) *before* you connect the phone line.
ou7shined, man! The whole city! Nightmare! I was sleeping. It woke me up. Everything went quiet. Very strange. Anyways, remember to a) "commit", and b) export, and then you can sleep soundly; a simple FTP upload gets you back where you were. The "rad" scripts (to delete those automatic rules) can be run as soon as the unit boots up.
UCL, hey great stuff! I love the smell of success, especially after such pain. Same for you Zonar, it's amazing the difference a wee bit of good information can make. Guys! I got *everything* running at once here, even KAD! Once you get the basic setup in place, you can tweak tweak tweak a lot out of this box. Certainly you could guzzle your monthly download limit in a week.
Which brings me to your question UCL, a bit like "How long is a piece of string?", it very much depends on how generous the other peers are being. If you have 15KB/s upload capacity, and you are sharing that between, say, twenty peers, that's less than 1Kb/s each. If everyone in the swarm does that, no one can get faster than 15KB/s mean download speed.
Every torrent is different. Those blockbuster illegal torrents will have a thousand seeds the first few days, and anyone jumping in (and quickly out) of the swarm will get mega-fast download speeds because even with our theoretical measly swarm members giving only 0.75Kb/s per connexion, there's a thousand such connexions. A fortnight later it will be dead, but who cares.
On the other hand, some fan-subbed anime or similar loved torrent will plod along on a dozen faithful Azzy backburners for months on end, out of site (thanks to Azzy's torrent grouping capabilities). You can join this swarm, but don't expect to get any super-dooper speeds, that's the trade-off for availablity, longevity. Those guys have allotted only maybe 1-4KB/s to that torrent, but they'll keep on doing that for a looong time, and expect you to do the something the same, at least seeding 1:1, anyway.
I say again, download Slackware Linux Disk One. The link is above these comments. As well as confirming your torenteering capabilities, you get a great Free Operating System you can throw on whatever spare puter is lying around.
And lastly remember, If you download continuously at only 50KB/s, you'll probably still bust your monthly download limit! It's like a car, having the power is useful, even crucial sometimes, but you don't drive like that all day.
hohoho, try a few telnet commands!
for now..
;o)
ps.. (on finally tracking down that Cinematic Orchestra bootleg...) big thanks to everone involved in the eMule project, and those millions connected to the eD2K network. I love you all!
pps.. WinMX is dead (long live WinMX), you need a patch to connect to the network now. I'll add something to the recipes page at some point)
Mine is a Star Smart SSABR. I tried setting the sntp server (and enabling sntp), but the modem wont ever update the time. Is there something else? Also, I have a ms broadband router connected to the modem. Is there any way to access the modem via ethernet through the router? The router has a firewall enabled on it.
Thanks!
Andrew
Anyone know how to unlock the BT Voyager 2091? It looks identical to the 205 but when you try to use it with another ISP you get a message saying 'Unsupported Broadband Service. This device has been supplied as part of a BT service and cannot be used with any other services'.
swapmeetpete - access is via browser as 205 - http:\\voyager.com and gives the connect page as 205.
Mine says ask isp for details - on my old isp with 205 i used my log on .
Aint done anything more with 2091 - was hoping for a better wireless modem - so me and lad will stick with our wired router, and maybe one day, if we get m/bs with wireless try it out if when its out of warranty and i can apply my heat solution like on the 205 to it.
cor, Just upgraded my "BT Broadband" package to "Option 4" with the "BT Voyager 2091" and a "BT Wireless PCI Adapter".
My Connection/delivery/activation date is on the 22/11/05.
I will test the "Voyager 2091" to see if the telnet commands are the same as the ones on the "Voyager 205". Will also make comment about it here.
If the BT Voyager 205 is same as loads of the others listed above then if i use the links above on this page can i use there firmware not bts i hate bts firmware it sucks like say Solwise SAR130 Firmware - 281003d ?????????
re the 2091, got the connect page hohoho, still getting 'Unsupported Broadband Service' as I'm not on BT Broadband, tried putting in username/password before connecting to phone line, still won't let me in. This is going to be fun though!
Whatever I try, I can't get my bittorrent to work I've given myself a static IP, Norton is disabled etc. bbut my bittorrent still has the blue ball behind a barrier telling me it's "firewalled or NATted". My bittorrent log tells me that I have got a timeout error, and your p2p probe doesn't recognise my ports as open, even though I'm looking at a page of NAT rules to open up ports 49200-49209 now! (I used the special ports recipe, after the 6881 ones didn't work either). Any ideas from this mecca of voyager cleverness?
How can I get my 2091 to work on a VPN what settings need to be changed?
This may sound nuts but can you disable the router part alltogether and just use it as a modem.
I have a great wireless router and the 205 is giving me problems being router to router with NAT addresses and IP addresses.
I can access the net but it is for configuring forwarding ports as they are set up on the wireless router.
Bruce.
Is it possible to just plug the ethernet of the bt voyager 205 into a hub then use to rj45 cables from the hub into two computers so they share the internet from it and use file sharing play games etc?
No, Bruce, it's not nuts, in fact there's a section all about it on the tricks page. Have fun!
Yes, Randall, not only possible but desirable. Better yet, replace the hub with a proper ethernet switch and watch that network really fly!
Gunther, did you run through the troubleshooter at the foot of the troubleshooting page? In these situations it's usually one big obvious thing, as opposed to some minor tweak. Double check for firewalls. Check your computers BIOS setup even, they have been known to hide in there, as well as inside Anti-Virii software, you name it! Closing ports is a really fashionable thing to do. Your Windows built-in firewall is disabled too, yeah?
swapmeetpete, Mort, hohoho, thanks for the Voyager 2091 information, but until someone can verify that 205 telnet commands are in any way useful (I look forward to that, Sylver123), bigcat, I simply have no idea! The tag "Voyager" is BT's own family name for their routers, under the hood they are, so far, altogether different beasts. I don't even know what chipset this thing uses!
Andrew, aha! Another device to add to the long list (the list at the top of this page is but a selection) of viking II based routers. "The Pacific Star ADSL Broadband Gateway is a "Next Generation" controller based external ADSL modem." Yup, that's the one.
Now, exactly how is the network chain constructed? If the other unit is between the router and the internet, and has a firewall, then we won't have to look very far to find the solution to the sntp issues. If it's Internet > Viking > other device > puters, then we probably will. sntp is usually enabled by default, and no one, afaik, has ever has an issue with it.
Tell us more about your setup.
for now..
;o)
ps.. folk that have mailed attachements in the last month or so, thanks! I will get through them all, I just have a bit of an inbox landslide right now.
Hey, ABSOLUTELY AWESOME SITE MATE!!!!!!!!!!!
Helped me out tons!
Does anyone know how to configure the Voyager 205 to open up all ports? so its almost like having a normal modem? it would come in very very handy as im always testing new programs and its a bit of a pain forwarding all the ports?
I'd appreciate it so much if someone could tell me??
Yup, MarkUK, you could open all the ports, sure, replace stealth rule two with one big rule to forward all ports to your machine, or better still, check out the tricks page (links at top) and just setup the unit as a plain modem.
I have to say, I too experiment with lots of applications (or rather, *LOTS*) and I just copy-paste rules into a telnet session, only takes a second. Keep a shortcut to "telnet://router/" or "telnet://192.168.1.1/", or wherever you keep the thing, real handy (like in a toolbar) it makes the whole thing real quick.
Also, I tend to re-use other lesser-used ports, I still have rules for WinMX, Gnutella, etc, though I almost never use them, but the port-forwarding rules are still there, most applications let you choose ports, so I choose those.
Have fun!
;o)
Ok so how would i do that the GUI way, because i dunno how to do the Telnet thing??
Also could u tell me why when im using the Voyager 205 it keeps cutting out for like 1 minute, the internet doesn't work or anything.. then comes back on.. then keeps going back off? it doesn't stay on for more than 5 minutes. And ive upgraded the firmwire??????
MarkUK, my advise assumes you have already followed the steps here. Once you've done that, a) you'll be cool with telnet, and b) your other problems will stop.
Your second stealth rule, then, would be a rule pair, something like this..except with the actual IP of your peecee, whatever it is.
Remember, the troubleshooter page is your friend. Especially the list at the bottom.
Have fun!
;o)
ps.. don't forget you can use the voyager as "just a modem", too. (tricks page)
any chance you could make a rule up for battlefield 2 and it's expansion pack. as EA are mongs and just ruin everything. and my patience is wearing thin with trying to get this game working. apparently i need a socket open but have forwarded the prots required by bf2 and sf.
thx hope you can help as it looks like you have an idea of how this thing works.
much appreciated nem
i am attempting to run game servers via my voyager 205.
i have opened the appropriate ports but still it will not allow my servers to be visible on the internet when people view individual game server lists.
i can connect to other people's games and servers so what is the problem.
please help
thanks
majorkiller
tduk clan leader
Hi,
My router keeps timing out and I have followed your instruction to try to correct the problem:
telnet 192.168.1.1
..
..
$modify ppp global keepalive enable
...
$modify ppp global pppsesstimer nevertimeout
..
and then I exit but the router does not seem to save the configuration changes.
Do you need a special line to save the configuration changes or is it automatically done?
I have found your site extremelly useful. Welll done.
Thanks a lot for your help,
Francko
I need to set up a de-militarized zone to get the 205 router to work properly with XBOX live, any ideas anyone ??
BT's website used to have the information but it's been down for 3 months now !!
Any help would be fantastic !
Regards
Super Joe UK
Nem284, sure, if let us know all the ports they need.
majorkiller, check out the troubleshooter at the foot of the troubleshooting page, sounds like something obvious.
Francko, read again, you will find many references to the "commit" (telnet) command, and the red save button in the web interface. both achieve the same effect, making your changes permanent.
Super Joe, no, you do not *need* a DMZ. Almost no one does. XBox live works just fine with regular port forwarding. Load this page with all comments and do a type-to-find for xbox. Any specific troubles, get back here, perhaps Bael or somoene will have a solution. In the meantime, perhaps this will help.
for now..
;o)
Hey Cor, i did that, it seems to have opened all my ports up on Port Detective v2.0 :) So where exactly is the bit where i can turn it into a plain modem?? And how come when i went onto the NAT Configuration bit through the GUI way, i did this..:
Rule ID: 1
Rule Flavour: Virtual Server
IF Name: ANY
Protocol: ANY
LAN Address: 192.168.1.4 ( this is right )
Port From: 0 (also tried port 1)
Port To: 65535
Why didn't that work? Port Detective said that the ports were blocked when i did that?? plz help
Ok well i found the turning it into a normal modem bit, on the admin window bit, do i just Enable the Zipb modem and leave all the rest disabled???
Thankyou in advance
Sorry for posting so much if its a problem. Anyway, i do all the steps the telnet way to make it a normal modem, but then the internet doesn't work.. if i turn my NAT off, it doesn't work, or if i enable bridging, it doesn't work. so ive turned the bridging off and enable the NAT again, and it works ok now.. but i was just wondering can u tell me how to do it in an easier way????
Hi there.
Thanks alot for putting this site together, it helped hugely in getting my nightmare 205 working atleast almost normally.
There is one problem I can't seem to solve though;
I set the router up to ZipB mode, and everything works fine, I can download from any p2p programs with no problems and connect to game servers etc., however, game server browsers never show more than 500 results, when there should be closer to several thousand.
I know it's a minor trivial thing, but I'd hugley appreciate it if you could help.
I had already set max connections to 512, but I seem to remember reading that ZipB mode overrides the connections limit anyway.
Thanks in advance.
Hello Marsh, is it possible that you could tell me how to enable ZipB mode please, if you read my post above ive done everything (i think) and it still doesn't work properly.
Also my router keeps dropping connection, and ive done the keepalive thing..??
MarkUK, I'd hazard a guess at "because you didn't also create a corresponding firewall rule". Yeah? Don't use the GUI for entering rules if you can help it, as well as getting parameters you didn't ask for, it takes about a hundred times longer. create (and keep) your router rules in a text pad, then copy and paste into a shell (telnet session). I don't understand your second question.
You need to get your router back to basics. Reset the unit and follow one set of rules to the letter. Probably you have old directives interfering with your new ones. The drop-outs won't happen with a properly setup router. Perhaps you might like to try a known working configuration (like any of the ready-made ones, here) and see if you still experience them. If you do, perhaps you need to get your telecom company to look at your line. Keep a telnet session open with the router and watch for unusual error messages.
Unusual meaning NOT the WARNING : ATM VC Congested : Interface messages, which are normal.
Marsh, I'm still not certain exactly how many connexions one can get with zipb. My grand idea of setting up a mini network (one puter one 205) for testing lots of these kinds of things has sadly not materialised yet.
Did you play with the time-out values? If you hunt for game servers, make these really low, UDP timeouts in the 2-4 second range. Also, I remember Bael mentioning a service a few weeks back, where you only make one single connexion to them, and they search for the servers, feed back the results, but I think I'd have to hypnotise myself to remember what it was called! Perhaps Bael will swing by soon.
for now..
;o)
Could you make what i need please cor?? I'm sorry if i am being irratating, but ive been trying to get this damn thing to work properly for ages now.
I want this please:
Turn it into a regualar modem (so all ports are open and such and such)
So it doesn't disconnect, then i will be happy :) lol
Bigcat/Anyone else trying to set up VPN access,
Try opening ports TCP/50 TCP/51 and UDP/500 for starters, you may also need TCP/1273 and UDP/4500, depending on which implementation of VPN you are using ( see: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=233256 for ms IPSEC firewall config)
Then your router needs NAT configuring to send traffic from at least port 500 to your computer.
So something like the following:
create ipf rule entry ruleid 100 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq tcp destport eq num 50 seclevel high medium low
create nat rule entry ruleid 100 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.3 lcladdrto 192.168.1.3 destportfrom num 50 destportto num 50
create ipf rule entry ruleid 110 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq tcp destport eq num 51 seclevel high medium low
create nat rule entry ruleid 110 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.3 lcladdrto 192.168.1.3 destportfrom num 51 destportto num 51
create ipf rule entry ruleid 120 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq udp destport eq num 500 seclevel high medium low
create nat rule entry ruleid 120 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.3 lcladdrto 192.168.1.3 destportfrom num 500 destportto num 500
It may or may not work. I got this far and tried a number of other things but wasn't able to get it to work until I set the voyager to work as just a modem and relied on my wireless router for NAT instead. Perhaps without 2 routers in the way or if you are not using the seemingly troublesome AT&T client you may have more success. Anyway, I leave this message here for anyone who thinks it might help to continue where I gave up rather than start from scratch.
Good Luck
Dave
Sure thing MarkUK, deposit £100 in my PayPal account and I'll get straight to it!
dave-p, load this page with all comments, and do a quick search for VPN, there's a fair bit of good info scattered throughout the comments, though it's something I personally know very little about, never having had the opportunity to use VPN.
l*rz..
;o)
hahahahaha, Very funny cor :)
But on a more serious note, 1 of my parts on my voyager broke off the other day on the inside, dont ask me why (most likely crappy soldering). I was just wondering could someone tell me whether the writiing on the little piece that has broke off has to be facing you (at the front of the voyager modem) or has to be upside down (facing the back of the modem). Please i need this else my voyager wont work :(
From this picture you can see its too blury to make out, so could someone please tell me by opening theres up, or by already knowing (lol)
Maybe someone could take a picture of the part and post it please? it would be alot easier for me that way :) Please Reply ASAP, im having to use an old Modem at the minute which is abit faulty =S
i am writing on behalf of my mate who is having trouble with his bt voyager 205 router.
basically he cannot connect to the net at all.
I ran the sell diag test that comes with it and it pasd up until the point of connecting to the local exchange and it failed. im guessing theres a problem at bt's end? am i correct.
I then rang the support line - after 30mins of trying i got on, we ran tests at our end on the modem etc, shut off startup items to prevent anything messing with the router and so on.
we then try pinging certain ip's, from the looks of posts off other sites we pinged the router itself and then tried to ping somthing else(cant remember the ip think it started with 63 or has 63 in it somewhere) this came back with the phrase net unreachable. can anyone offer any assistance because the bt bloke stopped there, they were pretty rubbish. has anyone had this problem b4, its a fresh install of xp so i cant think of anything tha might mess with it working proerly.
MarkUK, phone BT and ask them to send you a new modem. Tell them it's not working and there's a piece rattling about inside. Problem solved. Your old modem seems to work for now, that'll have to keep you going.
doc12inch, this definitely sounds like a BT line problem. If you are using ethernet, then the state of your peecee has absolutely nothing to do with your internet connexion, it doesn't even need to be switched on.
If you can access the voyager's web interface, then it's working. If you email me (you didn't leave an address with your post or I would have just mailed you directly) I'll send you a good number to phone, gets you through to engineers who actually know stuff. I would publish it here, but if it were to get busy, BT would disable it.
for now..
;o)
ps.. if you don't hear back within a day, mail again, I'm having issues with my mail client, and losing mail is one of them (note to self: only test beta software on a non-mission-critical machine! *sigh*)
theres my email - the web interface works perfectly - dam bt for not admitting to there shitty porblems
itll take an engineer two seconds to goto the exchange and sort it. lazy gits
Hi mate,
Any chance you can help me unlock my Voyager 2091 to use with Tiscali? Any help apreciated........
Thanx in advance, Jim
nope. I haven't even seen a 2091. If I had one, I might figure it out and do a page like this 205 page. But I don't, and it's unlikely that I ever will. If I needed a wireless router, I'd probably get a WRT54G.
;o)
Guess I'll be standing in the kitchen freezing my watsits off till I suss it out then:( (only place with telephone point, missus dont want me to run an extension cable) It looks exactly the same as the 205, I will just have try every command till I get it done.
Thanx anyway,
Jim
Jim, chances are it's just a rebranded *something*. Open a telnet session with the unit and get the system info (try the commands above, they are fairly generic, i.e. get system) try help in the session for help (or just ?)
Once you know what chipset lives inside the thing, you can download the manual for that, which is exactly how we all got a handle on the 205, being a Viking router under the hood. BT are useless when it comes to supplying technical documentation, but other ISP's and manufacturers perform excellently in this respect (thank you solwise!).
Having said that, perhaps BT are improving, God knows they've had enough hassle for this, so there might even be some useful documentation on the CD.
Have you raked about in there?
;o)
Thanx for the suggestions, I couldnt find anything useful in the cd and the get command didnt work, so I got the screwdriver out and managed to find out its a Broadcom BCM6348 chipset. Looked at their website and foundfirmware for it but it seems to be for adifferent implementation of the chipset. Will have a better look tomorrow and see if I can find something useful. The print on the board says its a RTA1032W-D51 but google didnt like that.
Regards, Jim
very nice work, im always coming back here after a reinstall (which is seems to happen a lot with x64 another crap product :p ) to configure this crappy router.
It's funny you should say that, tony, I've a couple of emails along those lines recently. It's over a year now since I made this into a real page, and I guess with the average life of a web page being around 100 days (crazy but true) folk are starting to show their appreciation for a good resource that gets better and stays put. No offers of work yet, though!
I appreciate it, though a lot of the good stuff comes you guys, really, especially in the advanced page, way over my head
Okay, Jim, that's a start, definitely. If it's Broadcom BCM6348 chipset, there's a high chance that it has a similar configuration to the Netgear DG834GT, its support page, with user manuals and all that, is here.
No sign of a CLI manual, or even a CLI, though perhaps everything can be done from the web interface. It may even be possible to upgrade the firmware to something like open wrt. Their forum even has a section especially for it. Hmm. Worth a look, but extreme caution should be excercised if you are considering upgrading its firmware until you know more, much more about the exact specifications of this device.
Perhaps I could offer to do a page for it if BT send me one. Or a rather, a page and free unlimited broadband for a year. Actaually, no, I've had enough of BT, 40GB/month! pffff You can see what they're up from to a mile off.
By the way, Tiscali do an UNLIMITED (with certainly the most intelligent fair usage policy I've ever read) 2MB broadband service for only £17.99/month, which is a good £12 cheaper than my current LIMITED package from BT. Erm.. Bye bye!
One thing's for sure, anyone who's ever doubted the Voyager 205's capabilities, be it for 24/7 operation, or overall capacity, just need to take a look at my latest letter from BT, 135GB in October, and that was me cutting back!
All the best peeps, and good luck with the investigations, Jim.
for now..
;o)
update:
I thought I might drop letter two into the mix, for those that enjoyed, or even received, letter one..
Well, I went for option B: Switch to a different ISP, option A being "pay our rediculous charges and continue to use our crap service and pay more rediculous charges"
Choose option B, get your migration code. Then call a real ISP with this code and you can "migrate" your service, which means there won't be any break in it - realistically, there may be an hour or more, but not 14 days like a regular broadband sign-up.
More good news.. you have thirty days to use your migration code. And during this time you will not be charged for broadband usage; you chose option B, remember? (you still pay the subscription for this time, of course)
Most ISP's take only fourteen days or so to get a migration sorted out, so..
Do I hear the words download spree?
/me begins queueing up Azzy, big-style.
for now..
;o)
ps.. If you are staying with BT, why not give them a call and ask them exactly how you are supposed to keep a tally of your total usage. Report any interesting answers back here!
i have just started using BitTornado and have followed your advice many time sucessfully with many p2p and other bittorent clients but i cant seem to get a green light and high download rates with bittornado
so far i have followed your guide for opening 5 port which i done in a range for both the firewall and the nat
would you be able to give me some advice for what to do or where to look next that would be greatly appreciated
Redeye Jedi
Hi Cor,
Thanx for the open wrt link, I feel I might be getting somewhere now. I posted in their forum to see if anyone knows anything about this 2091 and I'm just waiting for a reply now but I get the feeling I might just have to dive in and flash the damned thing with one of the firmwares available on their site as they seem to be all the same for the Broadcom chipsets. Will keep you guys posted anyway.
Thanx for all your help so far.
Jim
Well, Redeye Jedi, clearly it's not a firewall issue, you can setup port-forwarding no problem. But are you using these same ports in BitTornado? I used to use this app myself, but switched to the superior Azureus. Have you tried Azzy? (in fact I have a wee Linux box almost especially for running Azureus, though it runs great on Windows, too)
Queue-based downloading really is the way forward, especially if you're serious about seeding, as well all should be.
Jim! CAUTION! As far as I know, that chipset has no WiFi capabilities, which will be probably be provided by a second batch of silicon, and this may be completely different from the stuff these firmwares were designed for.
But having said that; if you have a back-up router, and can afford to lose the unit (a bricked router can sometimes be recovered) then boldly go where no man has gone! and report back your findings!
Somehow I'm in the top page for "BT Voyager 2091" at google, so others would doubtless be helped by any success or failure you might have.
May The Force be with you!
;o)
Markuk - the item u circled in red is a rectifier - the two legs marked ~ face the rear ( ie nearest the power switch) and the + to front lh side with - to front rh side.Woud suspect that this is a full wave rect chip -the number is DBS104G - no data on it at present - should be plenty on the net and Maplin should be good source of replacement if the one on board is u/s.
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d134/dave_h_/205.jpg
rEF PIC - Power sw is top left -
[ your tags were back-to-front, but the image is so big, I made it a link instead, anyway ;o) ]
hi, thanks a lot for this great site.
I have a problem with a sar130 which I have attempted to solve lots of times but finding corz.org has inspired me to try again...
I have installed a lot of these devices but I have trouble with allowing incoming pings which is what my customer wants, in order to monitor whether the branch offices are online.
Presently I have web and telnet access from the WAN interface and following your tips the IP Filter page looks like this:
http://www.mercato.ie/sar130.JPG
However there is no reply to pings directed towards the router's public IP
Can you advise what I need to do?
thanks
Hi all,
I’ve got an ADSL modem using the Viking chip and have used telnet to do some great thing but is there a way I can release and renew my IP with my ISP without having to reboot my modem.
Cheers
Thanks hohoho, spurred on by that big blurry thing you posted, I bit the bullet and smashed opened that 205 Joker sent (where is Joker, anyway?) and took a few snaps. Note the use of Macro facility, which enables close-up in-focus shooting!
That rectifier..
mercato, ouch! This single rule..works just fine for me. You can do..to get statistics about the pings and their replies. Test it out here. By the way, you can always get your IP here.
I have noticed that if you add more icmp rules to the mix, or *gasp*, use the "any" option, ping reply becomes much less reliable. Dunno why.
accesser, not as far as I know (but I haven't really investigated this at all) but do check out the CLI manual. Anyway, what's wrong with just rebooting thr router? Mind you, even that might not do it, unless you power off for a good few minutes, until the old lease breaks. Sometimes it will do that immediately, but I do remember one day giving up trying for a new IP (I'd landed on a previous mail-relay's IP which my local IRC server didn't like one bit).
The DHCP client is only active during the initial ppp negotiation, syat. And that happens every time you connect to your ISP. If you simply disconnect the phone line, it will have the same effect, without rebooting your router, so I guess that's your answer!
But why not just reboot the router?
for now..
;o)
ps.. accesser, this need for a new IP, not getting up to anything dodgy, are we?
lol, no no nothing bad just sometimes I need a new IP.
I can reset my router but my ISP uses sticky IP’s so I have to leave it off for ages.
Will continue reading a bunch of PDF’s I downloaded about. **sigh**
hey, how do you enable upnp on this router, thanks alot.
Hi Cor and Jim, re the Voyager 2091, these are being issued for a tenner to current subscribers and free to new users to tie them in to their broadband service. Good luck with unlocking this, partly for revenge, but more usefully as a source of cheap wireless routers for all
Thanks corz
That rule you suggested seems the same as rule 108 which I had used. Anyway I added it as rule 112 and deleted a few of the unnecessary ICMP rules but the problem remains. By the way I may not have explained properly that the only access I have to this router is from the WAN interface as I am not at the router's location.
all the ping stats are at 0.
Could the sar130 be a bit different from the voyager205?
I have posted an updated IP filter screenshot http://www.mercato.ie/sar130a.JPG
- the router's IP is 213.79.37.65, I would be happy to give you the login details if you wish to take a look, I have included my email address.
Thanks for your help
Have fun accesser!
oozy, it should already be enabled. I'm more used to giving information on how to disable it, which is usually the best idea. Are you sure it's not already enabled? ..If, for some unspecified reason, it has been disabled, try thisnow (or rather, after you reboot the router - commit first) you have a security disaster waiting to happen. Good luck!
Thanks for the encouragement pete, the idea of a super-cheap wireless gateway-for-all is a sound one, but I suspect there may be some hurdles to jump yet.
mercato, I still see the other icmp rules, do you need these? Like I said, the more rules you add, the less reliable it gets, but I don't think that's the trouble. When I traceroute the IP it looks like the router in front of you is blocking the ICMP messages, but anyway, if you remove ALL the current ICMP rules and try this one..you might fare better, but like I said, it looks like they are being blocked before they get to the voyager, which does seem rather strange.
;o)
Hi corz
I deleted all ICMP rules and used the last one you provided but no joy.
Thanks for the traceroute idea, it throws up an interesting comparison. The background to this is that the project in which we've used the sar130s is a multi-site VPN, we have DSL connections with the same ISP at a number of sites. The sites where we've used a Billion DSL router from Solwise we can ping, whereas the sites where we've used a sar130 we can't. If I substitute a sar130 with a Billion router then we can ping. So I don't think its an issue with the ISP's router.
Compare a traceroute to 213.79.37.65 with one to 213.79.37.6 (similar site with a Billion router) and I think it shows that the sar130 is the problem. I have been on to Solwise but it didn't help.
Just a hunch, but try reducing the security level to "low". All your rules are enabled for all levels, so it won't change their functionality, but I have a feeling that there are underlying raw rules in the sar130 firmware that deny ICMP at the "medium" and "High" security settings, its manual implies it.
worth a shot.
;o)
ps.. if that doesn't work, mail me a copy of the exported config, perhaps there's something visible there.
Hey Cor, thanks for that picture, well here what happened.....
I did it all the right way, i glue'd the piece down... it was the right way, i made sure of it.. when i turned the voyager on... i had my hand over it sort of.. and it gave me an electric shock, and now it does not work :(
im not particularly bothered though as i will ask my ISP for a new one and say that it cut out and wouldn't turn back on lol. I'll let you know how i get on, im using a standard unstable modem at the minute =S
MarkUK, see, with electronics, gluing really doesn't cut it, you need to solder. And any old rectifier would work in it's place, pretty much.
Do you have a soldering iron?
;o)
hi,
I have the voyager 205 running at 2.2Mbps with USB. Swithing to Ethernet i only get a connection of 100Mbps.i f just found where i could change the settings...the maximum i could set it to was bt100?? can you tell me why this is???
I can't seem to find anyway to set the dsl username and password ia the Cli. Is this not possible. Nice to have when Safari won't access the router config page and there are no other browsers to use (seems to happen quite a bit).
No i dont have a soldering iron Cor :(
super site for me and my 205, idiot question first how do i run the 205 usb free, think this is stopping me from using my d-link wifi unit. please be gentle with me as im "green" in the ways of the networking world but up for a challenge !!
MrB, your question doesn't make sense. Switching to ethernet gives you speeds 50x faster than the theoretical limit of Standard ADSL and you are complaining? bt100? What? At any rate, we know Ethernet is faster. Check the properties for your card (device manager), set it all to auto, usually.
Sure, diddlysqwat, it's possible. It is part of the creation of the ppp interface. So either recreate the current ppp interface, or better idea, edit that line in your config file, both methods would be..nigs56, all the router stuff here is about running USB-free. Just start at the top of the page!
for now..
;o)
ps.. I'm connected to tiscali this morning, woke up to find I had no net, entered my new username/password into the web interface and connected. Easy as 3.14159265...
how do i change the NAT setting on my 205 ADSL router to leniant!!! !HELP !!!!
mark, just put the NAT gear-lever exactly half-way between "laid-back" and "Jittery", should be about right.
have fun!
;o)
The DNS servers you gave on the "tricks" page don't work any more for me.
hmm, possibly under maintenance.
It's (usually) a good idea to a) use your own ISP's name servers, and b) keep a shit-load handy. Good timing, Gordon, because I was this very morning updating my own nameservers. Here's how I did it..
First I opened a shell and did..which told me what nameserver I was currently using (the one I'd been assigned via the ppp handshake with Tiscali). Then I used (I think it was) superscanner (though there are lots of tools to do this) to scan that range of IP's (just the last octet) for any other interesting name servers on the network. This part probably has questionable legality, and is performed at your own risk!
I found a few juicy nameservers (ns1.something.com, foo-cache-1.ns.uk.somethingelse.com, etc) slipped their IP's into Sam Spade and pinged them all. The quickest three I added to my local resolve file, and the top two into the 205's precious pair of dns slots.
Teach a man to fish and all that.
;o)
Can anyone tell me why the Voyager keeps periodically hanging?
All the lights come on and the only way to cure is power off! This is really frustrating.
I have followed some of the advice here and the up-time is better than before but still it hangs periodically!
Sniffer, it could be a number of things; connecting by USB, using old firmware, using BT Communicator, quite a few things. It used to be a big issue, but since v1.6 firmware, we hardly hear of it.
Have you noticed a pattern? Does it cut at particular times? After using particular applications?
Try opening a telnet session with the unit and watching for any unusual messages (that is, NOT the VC Congested messages, but anything else).
;o)
This is not my modem so the first thing I will do is check the Firmware version when I can.
There does not seem to be a pattern. Some days it last longer than others and some days it hangs much more quickly. My BIL (brother-in-law) is not using the USB.
The main difference to the operating environment is set out below:
1 - Line changed
2 - Linksys (Cisco) ATA installed to enable SIP telephony
The hanging frequency was reduced when I gave the ATA a static IP and turned off DHCP.
The set-up is Voyage 205 with Belkin set-up as an access point (192.168.1.254) this then connects to the ATA (192.168.1.3). Port forwarding has been set-up for inbound calls and the ATA is working really well!
Any other ideas would be useful as my BIL does not really want to invest in another system if we can make the Voyager work.
Thanks for your help
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Sniffer, the ATA is probably what's freaking out the 205. You *definitely* want to have the latest firmware installed, SIP-like protocols are the number one killer of older 205's! BT's Communicator package caused them no end of headaches when they first started rolling out the pair together, but like I said, most of those issues have been addressed in later firmware releases.
I don't know much about the ATA, but it may be possible to use it as a router for your LAN, so you could switch the Voyager into zipb mode, and avoid its NAT altogether, use it as "just a modem". Check the firmware first, though.
for now..
;o)
ps.. I just discovered a cache of email that has slipped through - pesky overfiltering - mostly voyager-related by the looks of things, in case anyone reading has sent something recently, I'll dive in later today.
Hi guys, i'm trying to host an americas army server on my linux box behind a 205 router and am having a loads of problems, I have forwarded all the ports but still no joy is anyone here running a server successfully with it?
If I've previously connected it via usb and want to change it, will it have our login details in it and connect up to broadband or will I need to know the login details? I say this because I didn't set up the broadband and I don't know the password but it's saved but *'d out on the dialer software thingie on the computer it's connected to.
Marc Fielding, I've no idea what you're trying to run, so I'll assume it's a game server. That's certainly been done before, so that leaves only questions about your config.
Have you applied all the other tweaks? In particular the UDP/TCP time-outs, and max connexion tweaks. Without these you have no hope. Then to the port-forwarding. Have you successfully forwarded ports for anything else? Have they probed positive?
Run through the troubleshooter here and check out the tricks page for more information on running servers behind the voyager, often it's some obvious thing that's been overlooked.
If all that fails, give us more info.
schermozzel, it's simple. Uninstall everything*. When you use ethernet, the computer has absolutely nothing to do with the connexion process**, so its settings are irrelevant.
Point your browser at the voyager (http://192.168.1.1) and set your user/pass there. If you use BT, you don't have to, it will already be set.
Have fun!
;o)
**Well, technically, it may ask the voyager to initiate the connexion, but that's it, and if everything is setup right, it won't even do that; you will always be connected.
i had usb connection. changed to ethernet. just go to start open then go to control. then open network connections. if d link says unplugged. then computer reconizes ethernet card. switch of router. unplug usb plug.then plug in ethernet cable.then right click on d link connection and click repiar.if this dosent work then check cable fulty. if u have 8 pin cable. and no nic card could pos b that. ho by the way took me 12 months. to sort out this problem. and that was only becuse i found this fantastic site. iam looking at stelfing my router but bit nervouse. bit confused how to let my toorents throughe. but i will do this becuse i have been hacked twise. and not very nice whene computer whont do as its told. keep up the good work.if u would like to email please do.soory 4 any spelling mos suffer with dist. thanks and good luck::
Hi Cor, love the site very helpful and useful!!
I followed your stealthing guide and your port forwarding recipes and the p2p is all sorted but im still having problems with bittorrent. I'm still getting 'connection error (timeout)' when using azearus and 'Problem connecting to tracker - (10060, 'Operation timed out')' when using ABC. I'm nearly at the point of smashing up my laptop and/or the router. Able to help at all?
danmaruk, cheers! First thought: bad torrent.
Have you tried other torrents? This sounds like the tracker is dead. For sure, over my years as a torrenteer I have learned that in the BitTorrent chain of events you mistrust the tracker first, and Azzy last.
Up in the Useful Links (above these comments) is a link to a torrent which I *guarantee* will work 100%. Well, very probably. But you definitely want to try a few different torrents from a few different trackers before smashing anything. Lots of kids still don't have puters yet, smashing a good one is tragic. :dead-pan:
getting there, worry not! What you desire isn't only doable, it's fairly simple to setup. Perhaps you might start with one of the "ready-made" scripts in the archive. Before you upload it to your router, in a regular text editor, edit out the other p2p applications and leave only the Bittorrent rules.
And Ahh! If you have v1.8 of the firmware, Chris tells me (I'll mail back soon dude, promise!) that nbsize maxipsses 512 now needs to be 511, and also modify ppp global pppsesstimer 9999 keepalive enable instead of "nevertimeout", then it will work on the later firmware. I'll confirm this (and upload some updated versions) sometime over the festive season, when I get more time. They work right off the bat on v1.6 firmware.
Either that or follow the guidelines here, setting up the basic stealth, and adding your torrent rules from the recipes page. Either way, you'll end up with a secure, torrent-enabled internet gateway.
By the way, even without stealthing, the chances of being "hacked" by someone conneceting via the router and into your computer are as near to zero as it gets. Hacking is a art, as well as a skill, and that that feat would take a enormous quantity of both, as well as some serious misconfiguration and/or hithertoo unknown security hole in both the router and your operating system (which I presume is fully patched).
If your computer is acting wonky, it's *much* more likely a virus or infestation of some sort. And these beasties usually enter the computer via insecure software, Internet Explorer, Outlook Express, Messenger, that sort of thing.
But the most insecure part of a computer system, by miles and miles, is its users; opening emails from folk they don't know, with attachments they didn't ask for, and then opening those, too. They didn't realise that a file called "fun.jpg < insert lots of spaces >.bat" is not an image, you see.
Whilst testing posters' setups, on more than one occasion I have gained access to their router admin pages - from the internet side - using no more than the factory default admin user/pass combination. No firewall can defeat that!
for now..
;o)
Hello Cor,
Great site !
I've just signed up to BT Broadband and they are sending me a 205 router.
My present system comprises a PC and laptop both connected to a Linksys 5 port switch. The laptop shares internet connection if the PC is switched on or connects directly through it's own modem if the PC is off.
The PC is the gateway (192.168.0.1)
Can I simply connect as follows: RJ11 phone line into router. RJ45 from router to switch.RJ45's from switch to PC and laptop.
I want the 2 computers connected/sharing but I don't want to us any USB connection.
Will this give me exactly what I have now but at broadband speed and what changes will I need to make ?
I assume that the router will become 192.168.0.1 ?
Thanks mate.
Mark.
Yup, Mark, that's about the size of it.
Phone > 205 > switch > everything else.
The only thing I would recommend is that you use the 192.168.1 subnet for your LAN, as that's the default on the voyager, and sooner or later the pain of having to re-arrange your puter's IP settings every time the router gets upgraded / power-cut / whatever, just so you can instruct it to become 192.168.0.1 will get too much.
Also, the examples and scripts here use this subnet (I used to be 192.168.0, too, but switched for the same reasons) which makes it worthwhile in itself, saves typing, editing. It's not good practice to use raw IP's for your system and application settings, so if you do that (and most folk do) then this is a great time to get cleaned-up! Give every device on your LAN a *name*, and use that in web/ftp/share/telnet settings, bookmarks and preferences.
If you ever need to switch the IP of some device in the future, you make a single change to your hosts file (see elsewhere onsite about hosts files, corzoogle for it) and Ballabang! Everything still works!
Make your peecee 192.168.1.3, your laptop 192.168.1.somethingelse, and the router can use its default of 192.168.1.1. Feel free to delete its USB interface at 192.168.1.2. The ready-made scripts here do that, but only work up to v1.6 firmware (available in the public archives).
I'm testing the 1.8 firmware out at this very moment, or at least, when this "bloody router" (our pet name for the 205) starts playing ball with its new IP (my second 205 here refuses to assume 192.168.1.9 if the other 205 is on the network, even though there is no clash whatsover in their addressing *gnashing of teeth*, point is, see what I mean about leaving the default alone!) the idea being to have them both live on my LAN so I can create some updated "ready-made" scripts, but I'm gonna have to come back to that methinks, so if you've got v1.8 firmware, you're on your own for now!
I'm more in a typing mood than a technical mood today, as you can see, but needless to say, what you want to achieve is doable, in fact, it's the ideal setup, one that's probably been replicated in many thousands of homes worldwide.
Maybe I should blog or something.
Have fun!
;o)
ps.. The Voyager 205 works just great with other ISP's. New BT's customers, please be completely sure you can handle a 40GB/month limit before your cooling-off period is over!
Hi, i have Wanadoo Broadband with a Speedtouch 330.
i am trying to use Playstation Online but due to this modem not having an ethernet port at the back, it is difficult.
therefore i have bought a BT Voyager 205.
now i am trying to configure and install the modem/router with the PC.
i have the USB from router to PC... the ethernet from router to PC... the DSL from router to phone line..
i still have my Speedtouch ADSL filter on.. does it matter by the way? are all filters the same?
anyways... i try inputting the IP 192.168.1.1 in the browser but i always says Page Cannot Be Found.. i have tried different IPs but no luck.
can anyone help??
thanks !!!
Shax, hit system restore, do it now! Just kidding; System Restore is the most brain-dead safety-net ever to (dis)grace silicon chips, but that's the idea; get your machine back to basics.
So, uninstall the speedtouch drivers and 205 drivers (in the device manager, while their respective hardware is connected) and their software installations (in the add/remove control panel - I'm assuming you're a windows user) and get the peecee's network state BARE. Unplug all network devices. Reboot the peecee. Then..
Plug the peecee's ethernet, the games console, and the Voyager 205, *everything* into the switch. I'm assuming you have an ethernet switch. If not..
GET A SWITCH!!!
I like to drop that in every now and again.
If you're buying your switch, look for buzz-words like "auto-sensing" and "intelligent", stuff like that. A decent switch will do all sorts of clever stuff in the background and save you hours, possibly days and weeks of future headaches. I think you can see where I'm going with this.
Certainly the best twenty quid I ever spent. And they're half that price these days.
;o)
ps. and a filter's a filter's a filter. all the same.
pps.. though when LLU comes to town real soon, a filter might not be a filter, but for now it is. And this is the real reason I migrated to Tiscali.
ppps.. there's now a v1.8 basic default stealth config up in the public archives. unfortunately, in fact, probably more like fortunately, I managed to brick my test router a little while after creating this (testing and auto-rad version) so... there's just the basic version for now, and it's certified alpha.
As soon as someone gets back to me with a a "yup that works fine", I'll use it as a base to create the other versions. Of course, I may get my parallel cable soldered before then and test it properly myself, but it defintely uploads and initialises AOK, I just didn't get a chance to put it online for a proper test-drive. But I'm 99% certain it'll gt you to basic, tweaked stealth in a single upload.
Have fun!
Cor, great site. I foloowed the instructions here and stealthed my 205 and have port scanned the machine and now I feel v.v. safe.
I have 2 questions:
1. should I run a software fwall on my peecee in addition to the 205s own fwall? I am currently running zonealarm (free) AND norton av on the peecee. It seems to work fine but I have heard rumours (from a guy at work) that running a software fwall is inneffective and may actually make the peecee less secure than simply relying on the 205 fwall (cant understand that logic
2. Can you recommend a good ethernet switch around the £10-20 level? Are they all mains powered (I have a limited number of mains sockets
Cheers in advance
Mark
mark, your work mate is confused. It stems from the truth that running two software firewalls on one machine can indeed make it less secure. It gets too complicated for sensible description down at the IP layer, but essentially they fight over the same data, which can bring the whole show down all by itself.
Your situation is very different, and although the Voyager's firewall is solid and well reliable, there are many reasons why you may wish to additionally run a software firewall on your peecee. Preventing applications from "phoning home", is a good example (stop trojans dead). A good firewall can provide other services, too, like email quarantine, javascript protection, personal data protection and much more. If some unknown application starts up a server and attempt to listen on some port, a good local firewall will inform you, and lock its activity.
I recommend ZoneAlarm (preferably Pro, but the free version is fine) on all XP-based systems. Of course, you'll need to disable XP's built-in firewall. It's okay, actually, but sadly still has no outgoing protection, only in-bound. Perhaps they did a deal with the commercial firewall manufacturers. Who knows?
I don't bother with firewalls on my Linux boxes, my "chat box" (a proud old Toshiba 133MMX laptop running Slackware 10.1, KDE, X-Chat - as well as the usual browsers and shit) has been up for months, no problems. To be "insecure" you need to be running an insecure service of some sort. Do you remember how Trinity hacked in and got root? It was a buggy old version of ssh (she used Nmap to discover the ssh server, btw), and she exploited it.
All my boxes run ssh servers. Preventing outside access to those servers (i.e. port 22) is the job of the Voyager. There is no access from the outside world through to port 22 on the inside world (my LAN). Even if I ran that old buggy ssh server, Trinity still couldn't exploit it, because she couldn't access it, and also she's fictional.
The point of all this is, any packet of data travelling from A to B, be it a cute close-up of Famke Janssen or some nasty, deformed H4X0rZ-packet has to travel through each hop of the journey. The voyager firewall sits in front of your network and allows you to control this flow of data in a very fine-grained manner, before it gets to your computers.
If you only allow incoming traffic on ten BitTorrent ports, routed to one single peecee, then those are the only outside packets that will enter your LAN. Period. No one can exploit your windows shares, for instance, because they can't see them, can't access those ports, so they don't get to even attempt an exploit. So really, your work mate is right in saying that you don't need another firewall, the Voyager can do that job very well.
But. Windows has so many other potential weak points, and so much continuous effort is dedicated to finding new ones, that a local firewall is always advisable, regardless of what other security exists on your LAN. And while Miscoroft has gone a long way in shoring up the holes in the architecture and implementation of its services, and is usually pretty quick with fixes, like I said in a recent post, users do silly stuff. Folk click dialog boxes without reading them, that sort of thing.
Which brings us to AntiVirus. I've never used them. Well, I have experience of them, but not on my own machines. When it comes to unknown data, I simply don't take chances. I rely on my workstation, so it's not worth it. Even applications from unknown sources are scanned, opened in a hex editor (or use the "Peek" shell extension), sand-boxed and finally, maybe, run, in a different user space. Fortunately Windows makes these things a lot easier these days. Right-click and choose "Run as...". Ahh, the joys of protected memory.
Point is, no one really needs an anti-virus, and if you did feel the need to install one; for instance, if you frequently download cracks, Warez, Eastern-Block cellular applications, visit porn sites, etc, etc; there's certainly no need to pay for one, the excellent, free AntiVir will fulfill all your needs. Symantec don't need your cash.
As for the switch, I don't have any particular recommendations. Mine is an old Chinese built "N-Way" 5-port switch. Solid as a rock, never fails. Even runs off a battery if you really needed to. By the way, if some manufacturer of switches wants to slip cash into my pocket, and send me one of their (cheap and intelligent) units to test, I'd definitely start recommend that!
Finally, power. Get yourself a decent power distribution unit. Most of the electronics and puter suppliers will have something suitable, get one with at least double the sockets you currently need. This workshop of mine has exactly two electric sockets, but I currently have [..quick plug-count..] thirty three devices plugged-in and running!
If you can afford a power smoother, and maybe a UPS, go for that, too!
;o)
ps.. there seems to be a lot of Marks around just now!
Hi,
I followed all the instructions you advised on port forwarding and inputted the relevant codes into telnet, however I still have no joy whatsoever on Azureus or E-Mule. I show i'm connected to others, and they to me, but the download nor upload barr budge at all.
I recently brought my pc back from Uni where I was with Plus.net and it all worked fine, attatched to a voy 205 router with BT changed Ip to static, and settings in TCP/IP section, still get the green face, the port probe says success, but nothing downloads at all.
Any ideas?
Thankyou
Hi
I am trying to modify my 205s ethernet ip address because I need to tunnel into my works vpn server (which obviously resides on a LAN with a different subnet than 192.168.1). I have looked around the 205s web-based interface but cant find anything that I can use for this. I also checked the pdf docs on this site (and google) so I decided to use the cli via putty (great tool). I want to set the new ip address of the router to 10.44.2.40 so I am pretty sure that the correct command to do this is:
'modify ethernet intf ifname eth-0 ip 10.44.2.40'
followed by a 'commit' command (according to the pdf docs).
However when I entered the 'modify..' command my putty session disconnects - so I cannot enter the 'commit' command. I am then forced to hard reboot the 205 and the old settings are still there - thankfully!
Here are my current settings (pretty standard I think):
I only have a single peecee on the LAN at the moment (fixed address 192.168.1.3 (dhcp disabled)), but I intend to add a laptop (and maybe a wireless access point in the future). I want to use the ip range 10.44.2.41 to 10.44.2.45. I think that possibly a better approach would be to create a new .cfg file and edit the settings for and upload it to the router. In the current .cfg file there are 3 settings that contain ip addresses:
create dhcp server pool start-ip 192.168.1.3 poolid 0 end-ip 192.168.1.34 mask 255.255.255.0 gwy 192.168.1.1
create ethernet intf ifname eth-0 ip 192.168.1.1 mask 255.255.255.0
create usb intf ifname usb-0 ip 192.168.1.2 mask 255.255.255.0
I think I should replace these 3 lines with the following 2 lines (I dont need that usb port):
create dhcp server pool start-ip 10.44.2.41 poolid 0 end-ip 10.44.2.45 mask 255.255.255.0 gwy 10.44.2.40
create ethernet intf ifname eth-0 ip 10.44.2.40 mask 255.255.255.0
I only wanted to keep the dhcp line in case I plug in any other devices to my switch.
Does this look good to you? I wasn't sure about the netmask for the range 10.44.2.40-10.44.2.45 (dont really understand netmasks) and I dont want to screw up my router (as I can see this is *easy* to do badly
Cheers
Mark
Yup, mark, you've got the right idea. To alter the IP, either a) use the web interface (Advanced >> IP Addressing - first page, how could you miss it?), or b) alter your exported config file and re-upload. The web interface method does the "commit" and reboots the unit automatically.
I've never used the 10. range of private addresses, so I'm not entirely sure, but isn't the subnet mask 255.0.0.0 ? Quite possibly not, but you might want to check that, anyway.
Mark Guadalupe, I moved your question to the htaccess tricks page. I assume that's where you intended it go. I'll get over there later, hopefully, once I get my tech head on.
Dave, yes, I have some ideas. My first one is "Bad Torrent". Did you try the link in the Useful Links section (above)? Try that. As well as a great Torrent test, you get Slackware 10.2 into the bargain.
Green means go. If you can accept connexions, then you are 100%, router-wise. Pretty much everything else after that is the "Net Effect". Even without port-forwarding setup, you'd still download *something*, albeit more slowly, so yeah, it just sounds like a bad torrents. Perhaps old, perhaps, stale.
I'm assuming you applied all the other tweaks, removed the default firewall rules (yes, every single one), tweaked the max IP sessions, etc, etc. Really, it's best to start with one of the ready-made configs wherever possible (again, Useful Links section above).
When you say static IP, you mean your peecee, right? And the port-forwarding rules point to that IP, too, I presume. But like I say, green means go. Try a few other sources. And download a Madonna song from eMule, something popular like that.
It took me weeks to get a 70MB TV show a while back (a Muppets Special) so I know that sometimes eMule, and the other p2p apps, aren't always exactly what you'd call "lightening downloads". But that Slackware torrent most certainly is. Try it.
;o)
Hello everybody!
This site kicks ass! Anyway still no good info about new voyager 2091 - you should really put more effort to "hack" this one - wireless access is much more handy than ethernet.
I'v made some reserch today and thats what i'v found: voyager 2091 is veeeery similar to USR 9106
Maybe flashing voyager with usr firmware will unlock it for other isp? Maybe u will find good configuration values with this manuals provided by USR ?
Manual for 9105(?) (looks same but no wifi):
http://www.paradyne.com/support/manuals/docs/6211-A2-GB23-00.pdf
Commands for 9106:
http://www.usr.co.nz/links/usr9106-reference.doc
USR firmware for 9106 - not tested ! :
http://www.usr.co.nz/support.htm
Hope this will help.
Hi, after the wonderful advice last time many moons ago, I am now seeking further guidance.
I am a proud xbox 360 owner too, which is sat nicely in a DMZ, without it some games refuse to connect to live.
However, the router is constantly 'forgetting' the dmz, whenever i look at the nat rules (only accessible through the secret page selectors on here) its gone.
I'm not powering off or anything like that, tis a strange one indeed. Any advice (other than get rid of the 360) would be appreciated.
Merry christmas
Paul
squbel, thanks for the info. It may be of some use to the 2091 pioneers. Not to me though, I don't even own a 2091! If someone want to send me one, sure, I'll check it out.
note: I am also desperately seeking your old 205s, in any state whatsoever (preferably bricked), for further experiments in unlocking the flash chip and it's weird 7-pin connector. If anyone can help out with that, mail me!
Paul M, I don't trust DMZ's, but I've not heard of this before (I guess they're alright for Games machines). It sounds like perhaps some other device on your LAN (peecee maybe) is talking UPnP with the router and disabling thje DMZ. Try disabling UPnP on the router and/or peecee, if you haven't already.
Better yet, load this page with all comments (man, there's been a few since you were last here!) and search for "perfect stealth", which is what I would use if I had a games console. Essentially you replace the second stealth rule with a rule forwarding *everything* to the console, sort of a UMZ.
for now..
;o)
Hey everyone
I've got a 2091 with the updated firmware, got the box for free so if there's anyway i can unlock it would definitely be a bonus!
From hunting around i've found that the router can be opened up when using the older firmware, BT obviously sussed the loophole and hence decided to update with the newer firmware. This therfore suggests that the easiest way to unlock the damn thing is to find the older firmware, but as yet i can't find it anywhere. I've tried driverguide etc, and obviously the BT site only has the newer version.
I might try squbel's idea about the USR 9106, but i may hold out for a couple of days and see if i can find the old firmware. I'm presuming it should be simple to install etc....
Great site by the way fella, nice to see someone putting a bit of time and effort into a good cause! ;-)
Cheers
Robbie
I am a bt broadband tech support agent and have refered users to this site a couple of times.. they generaly are suprised that a bt agent would send them to a site that has this title :)
Ahh, but I'll bet they're glad you did! variant, it's good to hear this. A few folk have told me that a BT engineer sent them here, so perhaps that was you, nice one! Thanks for dropping in, and do keep up the good work - the referrals, I mean!
By the way, I just blew up my test router (stone-dead 205), any chance you guys could send me a spare?
Unclebob, surely those nice BT chaps wouldn't do something so nefarious!
Anyway, I know from bitter experience (actually, I just laughed) that using the wrong firmware can screw your router (though that's not what killed mine), so do proceed with caution if you plan to test other firmwares.
Good luck!
;o)
If you give me your bt email ID I might be able to order you a new router. depends on whether you are still in warranty or not :) Cor, if you are the webmaster here you should have access to the email i used when posting this message, feel free to send me a mail to that adress. I can run a quick line test too just to make sure everything is fine :)
assuming you still have a bt broadband account that is
I have your email, yes (webmaster, yup, it's all me me me), but it's unlikely we can do this legitimately; my 205 is definitely out of warranty and I've since migrated to Tiscali; those 40GB/mo limits just didn't sit too well with the torrent queue, which is a shame because the BT service was super-fast, and very reliable - if only they could have come up with a decent fair usage policy instead.
No, I was thinking more of your returned stock, if such a thing exists. In fact I'd prefer to get a bricked router (or three), so that I can experiment further with the firmware flashing. Don't you have a big bin of returned 205's? I'll take them all!
Folk are buying these things on eBay, so basically, they are "out there" now, and someone needs to get the direct firmware flash figured out asap, and it looks like it's gonna have to be me!
Your identity is safe in my hands, goan empty that big bin of "dead 205's" into a Jiffy-Bag!
;o)
I have a BT voyger 2091 and want to use it on a diffrent provider .How do I change the settings to allow this as BT have been a little crafty in stopping you??
Please can anybody help? I have a pretty good knowledge of networking but this has really stumped me....
So, my setup:
1 x Voyager 205 in ZIPB mode, IP 192.168.1.1, DHCP server ON 192.168.1.3-30 (for when my ADSL is down). Basically all the modem is doing is bridging the PPPoA (from BT) to PPPoE (for my WPN824's WAN port).
1 x WPN824 NAT router/4 port switch. Wireless OFF (for now)
WAN port: Set to DHCP client. Set to 'No, I don't require a login' All IP info is forwarded through the 205 via DHCP.
LAN port: interface is at 10.0.0.1, DHCP server scope is 10.0.0.2-30
Obviously NAT is enabled, but the SPI firewall is definately OFF.
So, the netgear's WAN port picks up the public IP from the 205 with no problems! I can even see my public address from within the netgear web interface. BUT...I can't get anything through the NAT from my LAN. Pinging 192.168.1.1 from, say, 10.0.0.5 loses all 4 packets (although it doesn't say 'destination unreachable') and obviously I have no internet! Default gateway on my LAN PC is set to 10.0.0.1.
Similarly, if I hook up the 205 straight to my NIC, I have no problems! IPCONFIG/ALL shows up my public IP and the internet works fine. I can also get to the router via telnet or HTTP using 192.168.1.1 to make changes.
I know it's Christmas, I should be eating mince pies instead of programming modems!!!
Any help would be great,
Merry Christmas ALL
Hi!
I have a Voyager 2091 on a BT Broadband connection. I have via email been send "Remote Assistance" (Windows XP) invitations from friends of mine en Denmark. But when I try to connect to their computer I keep getting this message:
"Remote Assistance connection could not be established because the remote host name could not be resolved"
My IP (using www.whatismyip.com) shows: 86.142.115.xxx (but changes as it is dynamic) Using Command Prompt (by writing "ipconfig") i get: 192.168.1.2
I have Googled this "Remote Assistance connection could not be established because the remote host name could not be resolved" and read about others having a similar problem, but haven't found a solution how to specifficly set up the "Voyager 2091" via the "BT Voyager 2091 Configuration Manager".
Help/guide would be very much appreciated.
Regards,
Lars
Watermelon, have you seen this?
BTV, you need to be running an older version of the firmware (read up through some recent comments here for more details). Perhaps you already are, though probably not.
As I've said before, I don't even have one of these units, and this page really is nothing to do with them, but I'm keen, nevertheless, to see if we can't track down an old firmware for these purposes. If I knew the naming scheme for the firmware updates, I could help with that. Anyone?
Lars, the trouble isn't at your end, by the looks of things. Most likely, the other machine, when it creates the ticket, sends its private address (i.e. 192.168.1.3) so when you attempt to connect, you are attempting to connect to a machine in your local network.
Check out this page for details of how to edit the ticket so that it works correctly. You will need to edit in their public IP, which they can always get that here. I also recommend you take a look at this page, which spells out a few necessary requirements for Remote Assistance.
Of course your Danish friend will need to have port 3389 open on their router and forwarded to their peecee for this to work. They probably already do, but I thought I'd mention it anyway.
for now..
;o)
Hey Guys
The only person i know who has the older firmware version is that guy who was selling the unlock info on Ebay (he pulled the listing cause his method didn't work on the newer firmware). I've sent a message asking him for the firmware version (or maybe he might just send it.......???) so fingers crossed i might have at least a filename within a few days.
Cheers Cor, happy Chrimbo!
Robbie
I also have a BT Voyager 2091, and I cannot find anyway of using it with another service provider! It would be great if you guys could figure this out - I've searched the internet and no one has managed it yet.
If you manage it, a free mass and confession for everyone!!! lol
[ this comment was pulled from my ath.cx dev mirror, another few hours and it would have been overwritten, just like it warns in the site notice at the top of all the dev mirror's pages! ;o) ]
haha, sorry. I don't get the old hardware here. I don't know what happens to it to be honest but I expect it is recycled/ burried in a landfill. :P
Hello again,
I was wrong about this usr 9106 - it is based on older broadcom chip BCM6345
According to Broadcom - BCM6348 (wich is used in voyager 2091) is a BCM6345 that supports ADSL2+.
I've found only this 5 models using BCM6348:
Paradyne 6218
Comtrend CT-536+
Belkin F5D7633
Netgear DG834G
Dynalink RTA1025W
As Jim reported voyager 2091 has "RTA1032W-D51" printed on board - my guess is that Dynalink just ripped
off switch (3 additional Ethernet ports) from RTA1025W and that's how Voyager 2091 is made.
Could someone post here results of the following commands (typed in Voyager 2091 shell) ?
cat /proc/kmsg
cat /proc/cpuinfo
cat /proc/meminfo
I'll be back in UK (and have my v2091 in hands) on 3/01 so I can't post it now.
Cheers,
Squbel
PS. Great site with many firmware tricks for BCM6345 based routers (all file tricks should work on BCM6348 chips as well). Netgear cpuinfo. Comtrend cpuinfo.
1. Support for multiple PCs through ethernet UTP hub?
2. Support for (Fedora FC4 Linux) - DNS
Hi,
I am using a BT Voyager 205 and have loaded the latest firmware 1.8. I have also typed in the CLI tweak commands. So hopefully the random ADSL disconnects I have been experiencing will disappear :^)
1. Can I use a basic ethernet UTP hub to connect multiple PCs to the Voyager 205? Will the DHCP server issue separate private IP addresses for each connected NIC?
2. I have attached a Fedora Linux box to the Voyager 205 ethernet UTP port. The Linux machine successfully receives an IP address over DHCP. I have accessed the Voyager 205 management screens through IP addess 192.168.1.1 entered into the address bar of Internet Explorer. However, the Linux machine does not seem to pick up the DNS address of the service and hence can't resolve URLS and domains to IP address e.g. entering www.bbc.co.uk into IE just returns "server not found". When the UTP cable is plugs into the Windows XP machine - DNS connection is there and names / URLS can be resolved.
So ... how do I configure the Linux network definition to "pull in" the DNS server addesses?
Thanks
Clive
Och well, variant, it was worth a shot! Now, how about old firmwares for the 2091?
Thanks for the info, Squbel, chipset data, links and all! Good work! Certainly, if you guys want to check it all out, report back, I can put up a wee page for this stuff, Google has already linked me with the bloody thing! (And that blessing from Father Ted could come in handy right now, too!)
Clive Long, hi.
1) Yes. In fact, this is the very best way to set things up. A switch is superior to a hub, but a hub should work fine. And if you plan to run any servers or p2p apps, you will definitely want to consider static IP's rather than DHCP assigned addresses.
2) Check the static IP page. You probably just need to tweak the ethernet interface, or perhaps enter a few DNS server entries in your /etc/resolve.conf (or system equivilent)..or whatever.
If it still doesn't happen, get back here. I'm always glad to help get another Linux box online.
;o)
Hi there,
for what is worth BT has just sent me a nice new 2091 to replace my trusty old 205. Nice chaps down at BT homemovers agreed to send me a new wireless one since i was signing up for another year, anyhoo...
I've breifly had a play with it and it lets me 'disconnect' and change the username/paswword. I dunno if you guys who are having problems getting yours to run with other ISP's can do this but if not maybe mine contains an older firmware.
My firmware revision is '2.21.05.08m_A2pB018c1.d16d' is there anyway i can save/backup this firmware to a bin file from the router? I seem to remember the 205 having that facility.
On a side note, anyone know whats new with the 1.8 firmware for the 205? Any bugfixes, performance enhancements, or does it cripple the 205 in anyway (ISP Lock)?
Hi,
1. I will try and dig out the hub today and post results
2. I don't know what to set the DNS Server value to.
The Windows XP box just indicates DNS IP address is the same as the router i.e. 192.168.1.1 - which works for Windows but not Linux when I set this IP address as primary DNS.
I have searched the www.bt.com broadband pages for DNS values but I can't find these. I guess somehow Windows or the router finds the DNS address "dynamically" - this isn't published so I can't set this value in my Linux box. I'm sure Linux will work with the Voyager 205 - it is just getting the right IP parameter values is the problem
Thanks
Clive
I tried to upgrade the firmware on my Voyager 205 and it froze with all the lights on and I lost connectivity to it. I had to switch it off and then back on, of course it now just sits there flashing and I can't get conectivity. Is there anything I can do or is it fried?
Lunar Wolf, yes, the 205 has this functionality. The 2091? Dunno.
Can you other 2091 guys disconnect and change your user/pass?
If not, then we need your firmware, Lunar Wolf! There's gotta be a way to get it out. Feel free to continue coordinatung your efforts right here.
Clive Long, 1) start saving for a decent switch. Ten odd pounds will do it, if you know where to shop. 2) Yup, I have two Linux boxes connected through my 205. Works great.
As to the DNS servers, firstly, I thoughtfully provided the address of a real BT Nameserver in my previous post.
Also, you can get the name of your current "dynamically assigned" DNS server by doing..in a shell (a shell on the router, that is, via telet). Probably one of the admin selectors (above these comments) takes you to a page that shows it, too. This address may change over time, so perhaps it's worth noting any variations; like you say, BT don't exactly make this information easy to find.
pete, it sounds like you have "bricked" your router. Probably you want to run your eyes over the advanced page. The next thing you'll want to do is see if you can't upload a firmware image via tftp.
It's possible, sometimes, that even though it's not working (as a router) its tftp server is up and running on the ethernet interface, IP 192.168.1.1, and waiting for a fresh image. Perhaps not, though. It depends exactly how bricked it is. Certainly worth a try.or something like that from your computer's shell (Windows or Linux) Though check your local version for the correct syntax and switches (the -i is for a binary transfer).
If that fails, your last hope is direct flash, and though some of the clones have been successfully flashed this way, I don't think anyone's done a 205 yet. My own experiments were cut tragically short by the explosion of my test router. Och well.
Plab B: Phone BT. They'll replace your router in a couple of days. Send the old one to me!
for now..
;o)
Hey guys
Lunar Wolf, u defo have the older firmware version. From what i heard u simply click a disconnect button on the quickstart screen and it then allows u to enter your own details?....
This seems to be the required firmware version, and yet mine is exactly the same!I can only presume that bt have over written the old firmware version perhaps?????? It should be possible for you to backup the firmware and then what you decide to do with it is up to you.... ;-)
This is really quite strange....
Cheers
Robbie
Very interesting, Unclebob. Very interesting indeed!
And when you get that firmware exported, Lunar Wolf, feel free to back it up to my inbox!
for now..
;o)
@Unclebob, yes it lets me change the username and password after 'disconnecting' although i don't have access to another ISP's DSL to try anything out.
I've had a look through the routers menu's in a telnet session and can't see any options for saving/exporting/backingUp the firmware.
Tried a google search for the firmware '2.21.05.08m_A2pB018c1.d16d' and turned up nothing. However i then tried a search for '2.21.05.08m' and guess what other router popped up, the 2110 http://www.voyager.bt.com/2110/firmware_update.htm
I think the 2091 is a stripped down 2110, anyone want to have a go at loading up that firmware and see what happens?
If anyone can point me in the direction of any firmware removal tools, maybe the OEM manufacturers website then i'll give that a go.
okay, i had a bit of a play with the router again and it appears i do not have an older unlocked verion of the router, i tried changing the username to someting not ending in @btbroadband/btinternet/etc and it gave me the popup window stating that the router was for use with BT internet etc. so my apologies for getting your hopes up.
I e-mailed the guy who was selling the Unlock instructions in ebay and sadly he had nothing to help use with either:
"Hi, I removed the listing because this doesn't seem to work for everyone, here is the step by step guide.
Connect the dsl to the router and connect your router to the PC via ethernet.
Open your web browser and type in http://192.168.1.1
You should connect automatically
Now click on Quick Start
Now click DISCONNECT
the option to put your own username and password now appears, enter them and reconnect, thanks"
Looks like the search for an older firmware continues, or maybe someone can extract and edit the existing firmware, anyone know how to hexedit?
Ahh. dashed again!
Worry not, Lunar Wolf, all data is useful, failures and mistakes is the best way to learn, and make the triumphs all the more sweet. Keep up the good work!
Okay, 2100 and 2091. What's the connexion?
I feel like Inspector Morse!
;o)
Lunar Wolf - i believe that you are perfectly right about this! More over i think that Voyager 2110 is the same box as all 5 BCM6348 models listed by me above.
I'm not sure if flashing 2091 with 2110 firmware will remove 'user change' blockade - BT could have locked it as well.
I've compared (using firmware format info) headers of Voyager 2110 and Belkin F5D7633 recent firmware files. They really look pretty compatible.
I'm trying to get Dynalink RTA1025W firmware. If it's similar to Voyager 2110 I'll have a try with flashing my 2091 with it on 3th of Jan.
Regards
quote=cor
Also, you can get the name of your current "dynamically assigned" DNS server by doing..
get dns relay cfg
in a shell (a shell on the router, that is, via telet). Probably one of the admin selectors (above these comments) takes you to a page that shows it, too.
unquote
***********************
I don't get anything useful running command
get dns relay cfg
*******************
Welcome to Viking
*******************
GlobespanVirata Inc., Software Release V1.8
Copyright (c) 2001-2003 by GlobespanVirata, Inc.
login: admin
password:
Login Successful
$get dns relay cfg
Status : Enable
Poll Status : Disable Poll interval : 2
$
***************************
quote=cor
This address may change over time, so perhaps it's worth noting any variations; like you say, BT don't exactly make this information easy to find.
unquote
***********************
Well that's a problem then. If BT change their DNS server addresses, then anythign I set statically in Linux may one day stop working
Also,
I tried 192.168.1.1 as the DNS server since that is what "ipconfig /all" under Windows XP reports as the DNS Server address - I didn't believe it either.
From the Linux machine I CAN successfully do all the following
PING 212.58.224.116 (www.bbc.co.uk)
browse 212.58.224.116 (www.bbc.co.uk)
PING 66.94.230.33 (www.yahoo.com)
browse 66.94.230.33 (www.yahoo.com)
but I CANNOT PING nor browse the URLs.
So the Linux machine can get "out" but those URLs are still not resolved to IP addresses.
Linux netmask is 255.255.255.0 - which is the same setting as the Windows XP machine that successfully works through the Voyager 205.
Any other suggestions?
Searching BT's broadband help pages, I found an comment that said something like,
"BT does not publish DNS server addresses"
I suppose this gives BT the flexibility to change the DNS addresses in the future.
If the problem I am experiencing IS DNS related, I suppose that somehow DNS servers can be detected dynamically. How can Linux be setup to work like that?
Thanks, Clive
Because I like to be able to easily undo things that i do, here is the inverse of the 'rad' script - it (I hope) puts back all the rules that rad deleted:
#!/bin/sh
# Router Automatic unDeletions v0.1
###
###
# drop this script into your PATH somewhere, and make it executable
# cp rad /usr/local/bin/rad
# chmod +x /usr/local/bin/rad
#
#
# prefs..
#router="router"
router="192.168.1.1"
user="admin"
password="admin"
# the action..
{
sleep 1;
echo $user
sleep 1;
echo $password
sleep 1;
echo "create ipf rule entry ruleid 10 ifname public dir in act deny storestate enable transprot eq tcp destport eq num 80 seclevel high medium low"
sleep 1;
echo "create ipf rule entry ruleid 11 ifname private dir in act accept storestate enable transprot eq tcp destport eq num 80 seclevel high medium low"
sleep 1;
echo "create ipf rule entry ruleid 12 ifname dmz dir in act accept storestate enable transprot eq tcp destport eq num 80 seclevel high medium low"
sleep 1;
echo "create ipf rule entry ruleid 30 ifname public dir in act deny storestate enable transprot eq tcp destport eq num 23 seclevel high medium low"
sleep 1;
echo "create ipf rule entry ruleid 31 ifname private dir in act accept storestate enable transprot eq tcp destport eq num 23 seclevel high medium low"
sleep 1;
echo "create ipf rule entry ruleid 32 ifname dmz dir in act accept storestate enable transprot eq tcp destport eq num 23 seclevel high medium low"
sleep 1;
echo "create ipf rule entry ruleid 50 ifname public dir in act deny storestate enable transprot eq tcp destport eq num 21 seclevel high medium low"
sleep 1;
echo "create ipf rule entry ruleid 51 ifname private dir in act accept storestate enable transprot eq tcp destport eq num 21 seclevel high medium low"
sleep 1;
echo "create ipf rule entry ruleid 52 ifname dmz dir in act accept storestate enable transprot eq tcp destport eq num 21 seclevel high medium low"
sleep 1;
echo "create ipf rule entry ruleid 70 ifname public dir in act deny storestate enable transprot eq udp destport eq num 69 seclevel high medium low"
sleep 1;
echo "create ipf rule entry ruleid 71 ifname private dir in act accept storestate enable transprot eq udp destport eq num 69 seclevel high medium low"
sleep 1;
echo "create ipf rule entry ruleid 72 ifname dmz dir in act accept storestate enable transprot eq udp destport eq num 69 seclevel high medium low"
sleep 1;
echo "create ipf rule entry ruleid 90 ifname public dir in act deny storestate enable transprot eq udp destport eq num 161 seclevel high medium low"
sleep 1;
echo "create ipf rule entry ruleid 91 ifname private dir in act accept storestate enable transprot eq udp destport eq num 161 seclevel high medium low"
sleep 1;
echo "create ipf rule entry ruleid 92 ifname dmz dir in act accept storestate enable transprot eq udp destport eq num 161 seclevel high medium low"
sleep 1;
echo "exit"
} | telnet $router
# fin
point being?
you could just turn the router on then off again to remake those rules xD
I feel like a dunce here...
I happened upon this site because I have a G4 Powerbook which is partnered by another Powerbook and both running wirelessly off an Airport Extreme which is coupled to a Voyager 205 Router, and which are drinving me to distraction.
Today, without rhyme or reason the internet connection began to drop- no lights went off on the router OR the Airport and initially I was only unable to enter certain sites (notably ones which were bookmarked and therefore cached) but had no problems with others (equally cached sites and some which had not been). Funny thing- HTML ones mainly- I doubt it is a flash issue as troubleshooters for the Airport suggested. One of the sites I could NOT get to was Macintosh's help site...
BUT- I remembered- I also have a PC laptop running on the Router via the USB cable... It too worked fine and now does not- leading me to realise FINALLY that it is not a Airport problem but a Router one!
I am lost without my internet connection and do not know enough about anything to know how to fix this:
1. Nothing was changed before it began.
2. All lights are behaving properly and both pieces of equipment have been powercycled (as well as all computers shut down and restarted and etc etc!).
3. Updated and fiddled with Airport until I realised that even the USB direct connected PC was not working.
4. BT have been the toughest lot ever- the month I got the connection (September) I spent in excess of 13 hours solid talking to in excess of 36 people and have had 20+ email going to and fro. Most of the service staff had to be told their job by me- and I am only the blind leading the blind! In the end they had to compensate me for timewasting... Nice for me but doesn't fill me with confidence they will even know what the matter might be or admit there is an issue!
5. I need someone to tell me what it might be- apparently normal looking behaviour which began gradually (even thought it might be the British winter!) and has resulted in total loss of connection (I have a back-up modem account which I am using just now- boy! It IS slow!).
6. I am extremely dense (this means that the postings above this leave me very fearful... Please be gentle- I have had a rough day and it is nearly quarter to three in the morning!)
Thanks oh thou cleverest of folksssss!
McB
I have a voyager 205 modem and have recently discovered how to maximise my download speeds o bittorrent. However ever since i installed the rules etc. my connection slows down to nothing every 10 or so minutes and then builds back up again loseing precious download time. My internet access also slows so i believe it is a problem with the router and am unsure what to do. If anyone has the same problem and/or knows how to fix it i wold be very thankful for an answer.
Cheers Haggis
To quote the troubleshooting page(which i personally would have read before posting xD )
I have only one thing to say about this.. UNPLUG THE USB!
All the tips, tweaks, tricks and recommendations on these pages are for ethernet connexions. USB is too troublesome, too problematic to attempt to support. Get a NIC (Network Interface card) for your computer and save yourself a lot of potential headaches. A NIC can be had for around £2-£3, so you really have no excuse.
Briefly, the reason USB is such a Bad Idea, is that in order to use the router in USB mode, you need to load drivers onto your computer. The router then becomes a peripheral of the computer, and will use up system resources, sometimes a lot of them. If your system gets bogged down in any way your internet connexion will suffer and ultimately break.
Ethernet you just plug in, and as computers already know how to "talk ethernet", no extra resources are required. Even rebooting your computer won't affect your internet connexion.
Once you have a proper ethernet connexion, issue these commands in a telnet session, they will ensure you stay connected at ALL times..
modify ppp global keepalive enable
modify ppp global pppsesstimer nevertimeout
If you have more than one computer you'd like to access the internet (and that includes other computer devices like Games consoles) then buy a switch box, which is like an ethernet hub, only smarter. You can pick up one of these for £10 (ish) and once you connect your router to this, you have a permanent always-on internet connexion that is available for any device you plug into the switch.
Even if you only have one computer, it's worth having a switch. But first, get ethernet!
I'm uploading HEAPS, but downloading NOTHING!
You need to keep an eye on upload speeds. If you max out your upload bandwidth, it will kill your download capabilities, sometimes completely.
You see, the reason TCP/IP is so reliable is that for every packet you send (or rather, a server sends), an "ACK", or "Acknowledgement Packet" gets sent in response, sort of a "yup, got that, NEXT!". If the server (or any application acting as a server, which includes other bittorrent clients, etc) doesn't receive the ACK, it assumes you never got the packet and re-transmits it. It will also slow the rate of transfer, assuming it is sending them to quickly for you to handle.
Ergo, if you upload capacity is saturated, there's no bandwidth left to send back the ACKs, and your downloads will slow to a crawl, even stop altogether.
In practice, so long as you cap your upload capacity to somewhere around 80% of your total capacity you will have enough space for the ACKs to travel freely, and downloads will be unaffected. For BT broadband (1MB/2MB packages) 25kb/s is a reasonable limit for any p2p application, and the odd spike (created by other net activites) won't cause any real changes in your download speeds.
Remember, this is TOTAL upload capacity for your connexion. If one machine on your network is uploading at 25kb/s and another machine starts uploading at 5kb/s, that equals 30kb/s, and you are once again maxed-out.
If you have family members/flat-mates/whatever that do a lot of p2p sharing, explain the situation to them all, and allot each a fair share of the upload bandwidth which they MUST NOT exceed, for everyone and their downloads' sake.
Whenever I startup (insert app like eMule/KAD/WinMX/etc) everything else dies!
This is similar to the above problem, your capacity has been reached, but this time it is your "Maximum TCP Sessions" limit which has been reached. By default, it's 192. If you tweak it to 512..
modify nbsize maxipsess 512
you can do a whole lot more before your limit is reached.
The next thing you can do about this, is make those old sessions die faster. By default, the voyager will keep these sessions open for quite some time. Some applications; p2p apps, games, etc, can open loads of connexions really quickly (KAD likes to open zillions of connexions), and unless you set a low "timeout", the old ones will keep hanging around, open, preventing you from making new connexions. The simple solution is to reduce the timeouts..
modify nat global udptimeout 20
modify nat global tcpidletimeout 3600
modify nat global tcpclosewait 30
modify nat global tcptimeout 20
commit always do this after entering good commands!
These are suggested guidelines. Check page 255 of the cli reference for more details. Experiment to find the values best suited to your internet usage. Game players will probably want to take the UDP timeout right down to maybe 4 or 5. The numbers above should work well for most setups.
note: even with these tweaks, you will still need to limit the maximum number of connexions inside the application. check out the recipes page for details of particular applications.
Bael :)
Hi all
Found *this* great site a couple of weeks ago when I was having problems and thought my Netgear DM602 was the cause - turned out to be iffy BT extension cabling from 15 years ago failing after my upgrade from 1Mbps to 2Mbps.
Anyway, before the cabling fault was diagnosed and fixed (by BT, with new NTE5 installed, all for free), I bought myself a backup router, a 'BT Voyager 220V ADSL Voice Router' on ebay for £11 which I've just started to look closely at to see if the VOIP side can be made to work on non-BT Broadband Voice services.
The MAC prefix suggests Askey is the manufacturer.
After telnetting in and logging in as admin, you can break out of the fixed menu by typing 'sh' to start a new shell. The system is then revealed as a typical Linux busybox system. Cat'ing /proc/cpuinfo shows that the system type is RTA1052V with the cpu model as BCM6348 V0.7. Memory is 16MB (is this a BCM6348 characteristic?)
The Askey site does not list anything quite like this box though some of the devices have RTA**** style type numbers. I suspect that this numbering style is an Askey feature and that Dynalink devices are made by Askey too.
Anyway, another one to add to the BCM6348 list.
Will post more as I discover it.
Cheers, vof
Thx vof!
I think that RTA1045G is from the same family as Voyager220v.
Linux success!
I went back to the Fedora / Gnome utility(Network Device Control) for configuring network interfaces.
Lo and behold, when one goes down to the level of the ethernet card and selects "Automatically obtain IP address settings using DHCP" - there is also a check box that has the text "Automatically obtain DNS information from provider".
Now I have checked BOTH these boxes, my Linux machine is assigned an IP address by the Voyager, and the performance of resolving URLS entered in a browser to IP addresses happens as quickly as on the Windows XP machine.
I am using the Linux machine now to enter this posting.
Thanks
Clive
Good work Bael!
fancy that, thanks for your, erm, input.
McB, unplug the USB altogether, get a switch, put the airtport, the peecee, everything, on the switch. Apply ALL the tweaks here, max connexions, timeouts, etc etc. That's where you start from. If it still doesn't happen (unlikely) get back here.
Haggis, I guess you've read these pages now, fixed, huh?
Clive Long, congratulations! As you have learned, getting something working on Linux can somtimes take a bit of trial and error, and no small amount of googling. Recreating the network interface is always a good idea in situations like this. By the way, what is the name of the network setup utility in RedHat? Is it literally "Network Device Control"? I could add it to the (becoming a..)list on the static IP page.
This is all good, and while most systems are getting easier and easier to operate, Linux still thankfully provides way to entertain and frustrate your brain for hours on end getting even simple things working, like a sound card. Oh joy of UNIX!
But even Linux is getting easy these days, and the setup practically trivial, automated. So, if you are setting up a new Linux system, it's a good idea to have it plugged into the network, and that network, the internet, etc, operational before you begin the Linux install; chances are it will detect the router and set itself up accordingly.
Now, make a backup of your settings (just backup the whole /etc folder somewhere, zip it) and as it's mainly all plain text you'll a) see how the correct effect was achieved, and b) never have to worry about it, ever again.
Power to the Penguin!
;o)
ps.. cheers vof, all data is useful.
heh fix ampsig lol :'(
well the forums, can't post, dunno if it's just me xD
Hi. I have a problem with forwarding ports. I want to use ranges of ports to forward but on the NAT rule page, it doesnt have an option of Destination Port FROM nad TO or IP address FROM and TO. instead, it just has one of each. I really need to use ranges as i dont have enough space to forward all the ports i need individually. Even the help page on my router's home page assums that I have the option of from and to. If anyone knows what is wrong or has any suggestions, i would deeply appreciate it
Thanks
hi Corz
did you spot anything in that sar130 config file that I emailed a few weeks ago? Its the router which won't respond to pings although the IP filter settings seem correct.
I like the tech guys at BT. One worked with me to about 3.am one morning trying to get a Linksys working with a 205. Directed me here at one stage.
Happy Ne- naaaah. I've got a blog for all that shite!
Hey Bael! ampsig forums? erm, well, the server was doing weird stuff in the New Year, apparently, but I think everything is okay now. If not, mail me!
Ryan, I'm hoping you spotted the recipes page, yeah? You'll find a few good port range examples there.
Hi mercato! I had a hunt, and yes! I did get it
In your case, because it's a sar130 and not a voyager, there is quite a bit different in your config, and a few things look worth trying. If the command I gave you before doesn't work on your sar, something must be blocking it, the command was good!
The first thing I noticed was the lack of an igmp interface on ppp-0, a command like..might fix it. making pvtdefact deny into pvtdefact accept shouldn't make any difference, but I'd probably try that if I got desperate.
There's other stuff, too, and not all of it I fully understand, it uses rip and all sorts. What I definitely recommend you do is get one of the ready-made configs from the archive and sit it next to yours in a decent tabbed text editor and just try out a few things (it's wise to test any commands in a router shell first, to see if they will work, before commiting them to your config file). Some of the differences are subtle, but many aren't.
I reckon that will be your quickest route to success. Of course, the igmp command (above) might just do the trick. Get back here with the result; if it's still not happening, we'll look deeper.
Have fun!
;o)
ps.. Fog, from, erm, somewhere in the Far East, has sent me what he calls "the best Viking I firmware". I've upped it to the public archive, named "3.A45INT2.jetSpeeed520.zip". Feel free to cautiously chuck it in a spare voyager and report back here!
pps.. I agree Tony. The trouble most people face, I think, is in navigating the trecherous, labyrinthine menu system and brainless switchboard pawns who's only purpose in life seems to be to make you want to hang up. And though truly there are highly knowledgeable, not to mention dedicated and hard-working staff on the BT team, almost no one actually gets to physically speak to either of them!
Hello from Greece (Far East that is...)
This "3.A45INT2.jetSpeeed520.zip" you are naming as "the best Viking I firmware" is coming from this page: http://www.intracom.gr/helpdesks/jetspeed/js520/jetspeed_520_en.htm
This is my current adsl modem/router and it is just another viking based modem made in Greece and given free with some adsl subscriptions!
This last firmware came out on December 6th 2005 and it enables many "hidden" menus that were not accessible before.
I'd like to know if there is a generic type firmware for this type of modems and if flashing my modem with is will render it useless... Or even gain something from it!
Most greek users consider this particular modem to be very cheap made and full of problems although I've never ran into any problems with my modem, I have it for 1 year...and it does it's job well!
Take care,
MiLToS_666
@MiLToS_666
Hmm thought the far east was China...
...aaaaaaaanyway
What is that firmware you mentioned for? the Voyager 205? how do i upload it to the router will the built in update work or will i need a seperate firmware flash program? Also will i be able to go back to the standard BT firmware if i need to.
@all
Anyone have any luck unlocking the Voyager 2091?
Also i uploaded the 1.8 firmware to my 205, seems exactly the same to me and that annoying bug of all the default rules returning after a powerdown/powerup is still there!
Lunar Wolf, too; Flashing router firmware is a risky business, and really best done on a *spare* router. The advantages to be gained from loading that elusive "generic" firmware, probably no where near compensate for the potential issues you may face, particularly flashing with firmwares from other countries.
Don't even consider flashing with "alternative" firmwares unless you have a working direct flash cable, and if you have that for the 205, mail me the connexion details!
Anyway, MiLToS_666, Fog reckons you already have the best Viking firmware in your router so, if I were you, I'd stick with it!
This router has got itself a bad name in all sorts of countries, and most people also got theirs free from their ISP (I did). It isn't that it's crap, it's that it's usually poorly setup out-of-the-box, and needs tweaked to work well. But corrctly setup, it's a little work-horse, mine certainly has been.
for now..
;o)
I think i'll give up. Tried to flash my Voyager 2091 with 2 different firmwares (Voyager 2110 and Belkin) - not working via http - "The firmware update is failed. The selected file contains an illegal image." I'v tried to modify firmware header but no luck. im not sure about tftpd...
I've tried to analyse http code in /webs/ folder (esp. /webs/connect.html) - it looks like javascript is calling 'conprocess.cgi?' which i can't find - is it encoded in kernel ? httpd? - i'm not a coder or linux guru :)
Tried simply to:
sh
BusyBox v0.60.4 (2005.11.21-02:17+0000) Built-in shell (msh) Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.
# pppd -c 0.38.1 -a 0.0.38 -u dupa
Invalid domain = dupa
PPP username is out of valid domains.
PPP: PPP_0_38_1 is standby and ready to connect(PPP connection is not up yet)...
PPP: PPP_0_38_1 Start to connect ...
looks like this lock is really deeply encoded...
even tried to start modding my firmware with tricks given on http://skaya.enix.org/wiki/BroadCom96345 but can't get this damn octify.py script working with my cygwin python...
Wanted to try Debian 31r1 but i can't install it on my amilo 3438 - RAID problem?
Anyway i've no particular reason to unlock this device...
But if i would be really desperate i would order source code from BT (this firmware is GPL) and i would search for domain lock there.
I want to use UltraVnc. So I give the person my ip ex.: 11.111.111.111:5909 and then I can access these person computer. In other routers I usually add a new nat rule saying that my ip: 10.10.1.1(exemple) uses the port 5909. I did it in voyager 205 but it doesn't work! Is there anything I can do?
hi ,
I have a broadband connection (adsl) and i wanted to make use of the voyager bt voyager 205 which was lying around gathering dust. i could not get it working with the current network configuration ( 2 puters ) , soi i connected only one puter with ethernet and a switch ( Just in case ) to the BT router. I did a telnet query ( telent 192.168.1.1) i got thru the login screen ( admin, admin ). I thought i got every thing working, since my web interface was not working i tried the command ( modify mail access httplanaccess enable ) which returned 'Set'. i logged out but now i am not able to connect thru telnet or communicate with the routerafter that . All i get is 'could not open the connection on port 23 : connect failed' . I followed the check list in ur web site but of no help . Since the router is connected to only one computer directly ( now ) it refuses to connect to the ip ' 192.168.1.1' and also all combinations of the ip in the check list. My ip address of the puter is 168.192.2.3 also tried changing it to 168.192.1.3 but it refuses to connect to the router all i get is the same message " could not open the connection on port 23 : connect failed' have i made the router unusable. The router lights are showing normal activity . Whats wrong do i have to get a new router. Oh did i forget to mention that i a very new to networking so please avoid jargons - please... cheers
Good info, Squbel, especially the GPL part. Are you sure? If so, this is excellent news, because it would mean BT has "done a linksys", and inadvertantly (or perhaps not) made themselves obliged to share the source code for the firmware. More info!
Narley, VNC should work fine. The trouble is probably the 10.* subnet (is your router setup to use this subnet??). Check the recipes page (link at the top), altering the generic command to suit your needs. Telnet is best for entering the rules, but you'll get a better view of the results in the web interface. If it still doesn't work, get back here with the *exact* rule you are using.
Rememeber, you'll need to delete the built-in rules before you add this; they will interfere. These pages explain all, and a good read into the bargain!
druids, you need to double-check these commands before you enter them (though the 205 won't let you enter command if they aren't valid, as far as I know). There is no modify mail.. command, anyway.
There's two ways to fix this, at least. The easiest is to stick a pen, or similar object, into the reset button at the back. Reset.
You should also be be able to fix this in the web interface (see the admin selectors above these comments for direct access to the required page) but then, you may have broken the web access with your telnet command! Oh, just reset!
;o)
Cor, it seems that this Greek firmware is indeed good, I'll stick with it!
I tried to begin with a clean setup and apply all your tips one by one but I always get stuck at the point where I enter the two basic stealth commands... After that the router stops responding and does no telnet and no web interface... So, I gave up to all this stealthing techniques and just set the IP Filter option to "Low" (this is the default option, if I enable "High" as you suggest, I can't access the internet anymore...) and opened up all the ports I needed following the guides from http://portforward.com ... Everything works fine, I have my Mac OS X firewall enabled so... I suppose I'm secure enough... :)
I need to study this little thingy a little more... :)
MiLToS_666
http://www.voyager.bt.com/gpl.htm - but probably you have to pay few pounds for "shipping".
Cheers Squbel! That's outrageous, isn't it? Why don't they just put it up for download?
MiLToS_666, I didn't realise you were trying to do anything more, I thought you said it worked fine! The web interface is perhaps safer, though I prefer telnet for entering commands, and they should work on any Viking I based router, afaik. Did you see the recipes page? Feel free to mail me your exported config; I'd like to know more about your "the router stops responding" part, perhaps we can identify the differences between the Viking units.
l*rz..
;o)
Hi cor ,
Thanks for the feed back. I made a typo in my previous comment The command i issued thru telnet was " modify mctl access httplanaccess enable ' not mail. So i got set but i forgot to commit it. Now i have a non comunicable router. I tried resetting it wiht a pen , but still no responce. The puter refuses to boot my computer when the router is connected. It stops when in the login window " configuring network settings " and my floppy drive light is turned on as if its expecting some driver disk. I dont know what have i done. But networking isnt as easy as i thought it would be. Any body out there ... Your help will be very much appreciated. Problem : no communication ( either web or thru telnet ) to the router. Do i need to fash my routers firm ware if so how ? help / advice will be very much appreciated
HELP / ADVICE NEEDED ADSL ROUTER IN BIG TROUBLE!!
cheers druids
Hi druids. No, you shouldn't need to flash the unit. You say you didn't commit after the command, so simply switching the router off and back on should get you back to where you were before. Did you try that?
The reset can be tricky, I've found. Sometimes it's good to hold it in while you switch the unit on, keep it help for a second, and other variations. Try that again.
I'm assuming you are connected via ethernet. If you have it plugged into your USB port, please go back to the top of this page and start again! You need no drivers or any such nonsense to use the voyager effectively, you just plug it into your LAN with a CAT-5 cable.
If the worst comes to the worst, you can flash the firmware via tftp. Simply connect via ethernet, switch on the router, wait a minute or so, and then issue the following command from a command prompt (shell, cmd.exe, etc) ..ensure you have the TEImage.bin file in the same folder that your command prompt is in. ie. if you are in C:\ in your shell prompt, also put TEImage.bin in the root of your C: drive.
The router should reboot afterwards and come back up with the new firmware.
I recommend v1.6.
But before you do that, I recommend you check out the static IP page (see links at the top) because it sounds like you need to get your puter's network connexions sorted out some, and if you do have USB drivers installed, UNINSTALL THEM!
for now..
;o)
hi Cor,
I tried what u said i have attached an image of what my screen looks like. I tried to reset the modem too. The router seems to be working bcos when i switch it off it says in the task bar that local connection is terminated and aging gets connected when i swith the modem back on. I have no idea wha happening. And i hope my image give anybody a hint of whats going on. Cheers
My screen looks like this
http://homepage.mac.com/venkateshg/druids/PhotoAlbum22.html
cheers
Here is a fix to unlock the BT Voyager 2091...... At last
http://www.uk-bug.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=10&page=1
I have been unable to try this yet, I someone has time please advise, Thanks
druids, please confirm, USB or Ethernet?
Also, can you access the web interface? [yes/no]
I can't load your pics, I tried my regular firefox, then Opera, then Internet Explorer; nada. Don't you have a normal webspace where you can put them? Feel ree to upload them here (there's an upload form on my contact page).
Sweet link, Tigger!
I too, would be very interested to hear reports of this technique working!
;o)
RITE I WAS THINKIN CAN U UNCAP A BT VOYAGER 205 THEY CAN HADDLE UP TO 8MEG AN I WNT TO UNCAP IT TO HIGHER THEN 2 MEG PLS
tony, you need to check your keyboard, the CAPS-LOCK seems to be stuck, makes it look you are shouting all the time.
Yes, you are correct, the 205 can handle 8Mb/s. But as far as I know, you don't have to *do* anything, that's just the way it is, out-of-the-box; in other words; it's not capped to begin with.
You have higher than 2MB? In the UK? Congratulations!
One of the LLU test areas, perhaps. Hmm.
;o)
yer i have 2.3meg internet bt yahoo :| wa do u have m8
like u know tha u can uncap cable an tha :|
Ahh right. No, 2MB is the maximum here, for now. but soon enough (in a few months), when Local Loop Unbundling becomes a mass reality, we'll have 8MB as standard. Happy days! I thought perhaps you might live in one of the test areas (lucky bastards!).
Have you tried the router on your 2.3MB line?
It should work fine.
;o)
Tigger : I'm afraid it's not going to work with voyager 2091. It's a guide to unlock totally different ADSL router - EN5861
Looks like you 2091 guys are gonna be waiting some, yet. Mind you, there may be clues on that page. Did someone say that the 2091 was also a busybox type Linux inside? Perhaps a similar procedure would work here. Hmm.
Anyone care to have a prod about?
;o)
help: i have voyager 205 bt router.
i am trying to use it to on line with my xbox.
i'm not with bt broadband my isp line is zen,through a bt line.
my router is connected via lan line.then ethernet straight through cable,
to my xbox.
the problem is the xbox says theres no connection to router or dsl.,
the router it self shows theres power to the unit, but the ethernet and the dsl lights dont show on. but run up and down lighting on up then off.
hope you understand this note cos this is doing my head in.
p.s dont no that much about pc. laymens terms please.
wen is bt gettin ther 8meg out is it on april :|
Hi i have just connected to the magical world of broadband all i want broadband for is to download some tunes and connect to xbox live. But i have been having some problems downloading the free version of limewire, i think it is this router, does it haves its own firewall which stops me from downloading this how do this in simple terms !!
Thank you for sharing all this information. I have a
bt voyager 205 and the information from bt is far from
perfect. I am trying to configure my router to enable my son
to play online ps2 games such as fifa 06. Not being totally computer literate,
I am muddling my way through it. I believe I have managed
to forward data to relevent udp ports, using your generic setups.
However I am ot certain how I open udp and tcp ports. I may be
being thick, but can't seem to find it on your pages. Any pointers?
thanks
Keith
Does anyone known how to increase the Tx.Power value from 0 to 10 on a BT Voyager 205 ASDL Router? Any help would be much appreciated ?
Sunday network engineers!
bob, did you use the xbox network setup disk to setup the unit? sounds like no. In the Xbox Dashboard, like this..
Config: Manual
IP address: enter new address here. (probably 192.168.1.100 or something)
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Gateway: enter the IP address of your router, probably 192.168.1.1
In the Xbox Dashboard, navigate to DNS Server and set it up like this:
Config: Manual
Primary DNS: enter the IP address of your router, same as gateway (above)
Alternate DNS: enter any DNS server address here, one of your ISP's spares.
Then all you need to do is creat port-forwarding rules on the voyager, as per the recipes page. You might want to consider getting a switch, then you could connect everything at once. Also, see below..
keithlequesne , I moved your comment from the Advanced page, the page where it says in huge letters above the comments.. "This is not the place to ask how to get eMule working, or your xbox, or whatever, try the main page...". But I'll still help
bob, too.. You both might want to consider the "perfect stealth" techniques, which works like regular stealth, except every packet that doesn't have a rule to send it to your peecee is automatically forwarded to your games console. Once setup, you need create no other rules for your games, they should all "just work".
It's very easy to achieve, simply replace stealth rule two with something like this..which assumes you have the console at 192.168.1.200, if not, alter the IP or these rules to match your own setup. Now get a switch.
tony, I don't know, but probably long after Tiscali!
Marc, problems downloading it, or problems downloading with it? There's nothing in the voyager that will stop you downloading anything. Running a p2p application successfully, however, is another matter.
Firtsly, get eMule! Why do people bother with the gnutella network? I dunno, if you like partial files and degraded porno disguised as "php_reference.chm", then go for it!
Once you have eMule installed, the eMule rules on the recipes page will sort you right out. But very similar rules will work for Limewire, too. So long as your router is correctly setup to begin with, i.e. as per these pages.
Adam, I think you mean Tx Power attenuation, and zero is clearly best. But, it's your router, try..for now..
;o)
Hello.
For 2 years I have not had a problem with our Voyager 2000, but now I am no longer able to access the control panel via voyager.home/192.168.1.1/main ip address. I get 'Connection Refused' also with :8080. Is there a way to reset the modem to default settings without the control panel or something?
Thanks
Regards,
James.
Any updates for the "Ready Made Scripts" (commitedcfg.cfg) to work with Firmware V1.8?
If any of the code from the commitedcfg.cfg file isn't recognised by the Router it defaults back to it's factory commitedcfg.cfg file, resetting any mods you have made. This is the case when you telnet into the Router or use FTP to edit the commitedcfg.cfg file.
I have changed the commitedcfg.cfg file so that it works on my 205 ADSL Router and keeps the updated settings, however I am still concerned (not being a PRO) that it isn't setup "perfectly" which is what the aim here is.
If you want to see what I have used, you can Email me and i'll happily send you the file, or if you are aware of any issues with v 1.8 is there an updated "pre-made script" which will work around certain commands e.g. "modify nbsize maxipsess 512" needs to be "511" if you set "512" the commitedcfg.cfg simply removes the line from the commitedcfg.cfg file.
Would you suggest just downgrading back to Firmware v1.6 then your "pre-made" scripts will work? Is there much difference really?
Any help much appreciated.
Thanks, Chris.
i've got a voyager 205 and haven't been able to use web interface of the router for a while, i realised that the web interface is probably not as useful as telnet..but it still winds me up...everytime i tried to click on advanced or troubleshooting button in the web interface, the only thing that appears is the "quick start" window...something wrong with my java script maybe??please help~~
rite do u have to open the ports on a bt voyager 1500 aswell as ur bt voyager 205 just like to ask ?????
Hi,
Ive got a 205 router and I'm having major problems with it. I need my broadband access because I do out of hours support for a banks so frequently get called at 3am in the morning, believe me finding I cant logon at the time in the morning is a fecking nightmare, plus Im rapidly becoming very unpopular in the office as I have to call someone else out as I cant login. I have spoken to BT tech support, extremely poor beyond belief, dont know if its a line or router problem.
Anyway the problems Im getting are as follows.
1. Sometimes I will be connected and all looks fine, then suddenly I appear to drop my connection, if I try and browse to another site it just hangs. If I check the DSL status box it says 'Connected' but 0 bytes, when I can browse it says '2237' bytes or something. If I look at the router I can see two lights lights are lit up, the first one and last one and then the diag or dsl one just sits there flashing. Sometimes it sorts itself out in a hour other times its 14hrs.
2. Sometime all of the routers lights lit up and stay on, and shows as connected, but I can access the web
I'm not using any extension leads, made sure the router is at least 2ft away from anything hot / electrical and all that. Any ideas router of line ?
BT should be ashamed of there Broadband Techinical Support !!!
Sincydood, I've not even seen a voyager 2000, but this page says it has a recessed reset switch. have alook around the back of the thing.
Sure chris, I put up a 1.8 ready-made some time ago, right before I blew up my test router
UCL, try the troubleshooting page.
tony, I'd have to Google to know the answer, I only do 205's!
Nobby, did you set the router up as per these pages? Out-of-the-box, the 205 has difficulties, to say the least. I'd start by resetting the unit and uploading one of the ready-made scripts (backup your current configuration first, of course, just in case). I assume you have <= v1.6 firmware. If you have 1.8, feel free to test out the 1.8 ready-made for me!
It could be lots of things. Are there othe machines on your home network? One of the kid's started torrenteering, or something? Any p2p app not tamed (that is, its max upload and connexions capped in its prefs) has the ability to take down the whole show.
Run through the troubleshooter checklist at the foot of the troubleshooter page, ensure nothing obvious hasn't been missed.
Other possibilities include; banks have "upgraded" their login system and it now requires port-forwarding of some kind; problems with your physical BT line; digital telephones of any kind, software (like BT COmmunicator) or hardware (a number of units); the list goes on.
If you have a backup of a known working configuration, this would be a good time to upload it to the router. Get back here if/when you need further assistance.
;o)
ps.. my host is doing some major upgrades at some unspecified time today, so if the org disappears for a while, worry not, it'll be back later.
Cor:
Sure chris, I put up a 1.8 ready-made some time ago, right before I blew up my test router no feedback on whether it works or not, though. I use 1.6, and no one's yet pointed to any improvements with 1.8, only limitations, so I dunno. If I get another test router, I might play with it again.
Chris:
Is there anyway I can re-flash my Firmware back to 1.6 from 1.8, reset my commitedcfg.cfg back to standard and then use pre-configured commitedcfg.cfg file for the Firmware v1.6 on your web site?
Also another quick question if I may
Thanks, Chris.
I guess using the web interface would work fine. If not, tftp definitely works..(from a shell in the same folder as TEImage.bin)
As for the XP Firewall, no reason! (did I say this?) Enable it if you like! But, there's no real point to that, other than to use up valuable system resources. The XP firewall has no outgoing protection capabilities, and nothing's getting in past the voyager, so really, there's no point, is there?
A good local firewall can be a valuable asset on your system, true, but the XP built-in firewall isn't that. No outgoing protection at all, no mail-safe, no file hashing, no privacy protection, the list goes on. Sure, if you have no other firewall, it will provide basic inbound protection, but with so many good free firewalls out there (like ZoneAlarm), it's reduced to being no more than a "beginners" firewall, or if I were being kind, a "starter" firewall
Just like XP's built-in "starter" web browser, email client, media player, text editor, etc, etc, etc.
;o)
hey u can just type in the default gateway address in the IE to open a GUI page
this will make ur job simpler provided u know the username and pwd
lock, man, try READING the page before posting silly comments.
;o)
hi cor .. thanks for all ur hard work
i'd like just to ask a question, i've made every thing to solve the NAT problem .. and it did work .. but :(
my downloading speed in Azureus(one of bittorrent clients) is still low ... never gets more than 15k, is there's a way to speed up the connection
Note: i made port forwarding for ports 6881-6889 too .. and still the speed is the same , my ADSL speed is 256k
thanx
Hey Dude
Love the new colour scheme
still looking regularly, although
my setup has worked perfect
for eons thanks to this site.
Best
barney
can u tell me wa to do for openin ports for bearshare pls
Congrats on the new look - brill
smart_weird, is it still possible to have 256K broadband??? Oh man! Even with every trick in the book, you are looking at a 30KB/s tops. *ouch*. There's only one thing that matters here..
Do you get a green light?
If you do, then your router is 100% setup, and the slowness is the individual torrent (I've just finished two torrents that I started over a month ago, so I know that as well as the usual super-fast torrents, the opposite can also be true.
Please test using with the torrents in the Useful Links section (above these comments). They should max out your download speed. And DO consider a different range of ports, the default range is often blocked by trackers, ISP's, and increasingly, other torrenteers (who wants amateurs in their swarm?), so clearly these are not the best choice. Something high up in the 45000+ range works well, I find.
tony, try the recipes page.
barney, hohoho, cheers dudes! Good to see your guys still pop in every now and again. In truth, I've not had much feedback about the new look (which isn't entirely site-wide yet), but I'm soldiering on anyway!
Do check out the new menu buttons (particularly that cool triangle one) which lead to some newly released sections (in fact, the reason I got into all this web tech in the first place). Free food for your eyes and ears!
;o)
Before I ask my question: please be gentle - total beginner....
Just bought BT Voyager 205 ADSL Router off Ebay.
Followed the instructions 'on disc' then realised it was for BT Broadband
So uninstalled and started again.
All lights are green (that should be), so setup is OK (I think).
I am on AOL Broadband at the moment.
What do I do now????
Can't get a connection.
Have read your pages, but to be honest it is all gobbley gook to me.
Be grateful for any help.
Thanks
Hey, "gentle" is my middle name!
Okay, Brianna, first thing you need to do (you did uninstall the BT software, right? good! That's essential, even if you aren't with BT) is plug an ethernet cable between your computer and the voyager router.
If you don't have a NIC (sorry, Network Card) on your puter (erm, COMputer), then nip out and get one, around £3-£5 from any computer supply shop. If the voyager didn't come with a network cable (we call it "CAT-5"), then pick up one of those, too. You might want to do that anyway; the one that comes with the voyager is rather short.
Don't plug in the phone line yet.
Okay, puter joined to router with CAT-5. Next, power-up the router and point your web browser here. Enter your AOL (whatever possessed you to team up with the Devil?) username and password and hit ok (or whatever the button is called that confirms this).
You should now see the page reappear with your username and password set.
Now plug in the phone line. The voyager should connect to your AOL broadband service. If you want to run servers, P2P applications, torrents or whatever, you'll need to do more stuff, but you should be good to go for basic surfing, email, etc, right away.
If you have any problems at all, get right back here with your details, erm, I mean, the details
Gentle enough?
A back-rub, maybe?
;o)
cor i love u man now my torrents are hit 120kb/s or more i use azureus first time as usein it
an it fukin kicks arse thanks cor m8 ;)
Hi Corz ... Just passing through and waited to say good job with the new theme..Brightens up these long winter night no end ...
Voyager is going sweet as ever... just had a surge cut this morning and got a chance to hit the rad script ... :) Worked fine... Speeds are great as always (246k max).. wish i could get more speed as i have some KDX accounts that are capped at 750k. Saw TokyoRose on a server a couple of weeks ago and we are both in agreement that you are so Helpful ... Keep up the good work and all the best for the year ahead..
Regards , Robbie
Aww there's a lorra love in the air today! Full moon coming?
Thanks Robbie, I'm loving the new design myself, a lot easier on my eyes, for starters, though getting all the old html tag-soup pages up to scratch (xhtml 1.0 strict) is a job not yet half done. Everything in time.
I am helpful, aren't I?
And thanks for the RAD reminder! I got disconnected by that surge, too (what was that?), and I forgot to RAD afterwards*, I hope no one was trying to access the port probe (which runs from my Linux box these days, too many firewalls at the web host). Now done. Ta!
As for more speed, the unbundled (LLU) 8MB links will be upon us in the next few months; that should be enough to run a few servers in the background, perhaps even a Tor server. Yes!
Great news tony, yup, torrenteering is where the fun is these days, and for my money, Azzy's the best client of the bunch, by miles. Take some time in its options screen, it can do a whole lot more than the basic peer activity; watching folders for new torrents, queueing them up automatically, moving them when complete, the works! It certainly takes the effort out of collecting, erm, Linux distros!
for now..
;o)
Yup ..Tor is an interesting prospect.. The more people using it the better.. Glad i reminded you about the Rad script ... I wont touch torrents or anything else in that vain without Tor, but i think unless there are a lot of fast servers that you can use it will always be tedious for anything other than small transfers. That's why i love KDX so much , Run it from a encrypted drive and your pretty secure. The community is the best i've come accross and a great source of info as it can be used by MS/Linux&Mac (Just like IRC)
I'm sure you've got all you need but if you want to give it a go then grab my email and i'll give you an account at a few places :)
Cant wait for the 8meg lines to be nationwide.. just hope the UP is the same as the Down ...
PS, Speaking of LInux Distro's .. for a noob which would you recommend .. SuSe 10?
Hi Cor, love the new design and the great content!
I've just set up my 205 in half bridge mode following your instructions but I'm still running into a problem. As it said on your page it should remove the problem of the 512 max connections the modem can handle. Except that's not quite the case for me.
After setting everything up I loaded up my bittorrent client and downloaded for a few minutes. After a while the 205 froze up, every light lit and had to be rebooted. Using your tips to set the modem to the 512 connections stopped that but surely using zipb mode it shouldn't be an issue anymore?
Everything else works, my IP is passed to my Smoothwall box and a traceroute from outside doesn't show the modem, althought the last 2 hops my IP address shows up twice identically. Is there something else I've missed?
Robbie: On the Linux issue I'd sugges Suse 10 wholeheartedly. Been using it on my second desktop since it was released and haven't found 1 problem that wasn't easily fixed. Grea distro for noob's and pro's alike
I have just got an xbox 306 that is connected to my voyager 205 via a wired ethernet connection and my pc is connected via the usb. This is how it should be set up according to the Xbox live website. I am trying to use the Windows media connect software to stream music etc from my pc upstairs to the xbox downstairs, but neither devices see each other, but my xbox live works fine. I have installed the latest V1,8 firmware to the router, disabled firewalls, created a DMZ so the routers NAT setting is now open, but none of these work and its driving me nuts. Looking on various websites, it seems I am not the only one who is having problems getting the 205 to work with the media connect software. Can you help before I go insane, and my other half boots me out because she thinks im obsessed with this as I wont let it beat me!
Thanks,
Scott
omg i ringed bt 2day an we are gettin upgradein soon am lovin it :p
Hi,
Im really having problems trying to get a webserver running on my home network. I have two machines. I have set a static IP address of 192.168.1.4 on the machine with the web server and I can access the web server from another machine inside the firewall. The problem is that the ip address for the machine is 86.129.94.21 and I use no-ip to update the DNS for the IP for the router. Each time i use the url jimtest.no-ip.info it translates the ip to 86.129.94.21 and up comes the bt voyager home admin page. Anyway Ive tried to add a forwarding rule to the voyager 205 router but it just does not seem to route the connection from 86.129.94.21 to 192.168.1.4, the rule I used was as follows:
Firewall Rule:
create ipf rule entry ruleid 808 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq tcp destport eq num 80 seclevel high medium low
NAT Rule:
create nat rule entry ruleid 808 rdr prot num 80 lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.4 lcladdrto 192.168.1.4 destportfrom num 80 destportto num 80
To be honest Im not really sure what I have to do to get the port 80 to be forwarded on the router ip of 86.129.94.21 so that that traffic comes to port 80 of the internal 192.168.1.4
Any advice you give would be appreciated.
Thanks
James Hernon
Shaun, that's right, I said "should", but really, I have no data about that. If you could do a few tests (ie. run 500 connexions, check, run 505, check, run 520, bang! - proof positive) I would be grateful. Theoretically you should bypass the NAT altogether, so, hmm. Can you send me your exported config? (commit first)
Scott, disconnect the USB, get a switch, use Ethernet only, and everything will be fine.
James Hernon, you must have missed the recipes page, and troubleshooting page, huh? (links at the top, and throughout the main article)
Robbie, I only install Slackware Linux. For n00bs I recommend vector linux, which is a slackware-based distro that comes with "everything on one disc". But Slackware itself is easy enough to install.
Really, your Linux is a personal thing. I recommend you try a few and see what suits you best. Suse is very good, as is Debian, and others, too, but for me, there is only Slackware Linux.
;o)
Hi,
I want to use my bt broadband connection to host a low-useage web server and nttp newgroup. I entered the rules below and saved them and these work ... until I switch off my router. As you'll see, the ip filter rule numbers are further down the list than any of the default deny rules.
After turning the router back on, on at least one occasion I found that the http (port 80) rules have been deleted, while nntp (port 119) rules have been left alone.
Also, the security level is sometimes set back to off, which turns off ip filtering and also WAN http access to the router is sometimes ticked, despite the fact that I have unticked this, clicked on apply and clicked on save.
Is this normal or deliberate? Please could you advise me how to solve the problem or point me to a helpful url?
=====================
IP Routing -> nat virtual server:
NAT Rule Information
Rule ID: 808
Rule Flavor: Virtual Server
IF Name: ALL
Protocol: TCP
Local Address From: 192.168.1.3
Local Address To: 192.168.1.3
Global Address From: 0.0.0.0
Global Address To: 0.0.0.0
Destination Port From: 80
Destination Port To: 80
Local Port: 80
=====================
security => ip filter -> custom
Security level medium
-------
IPF Rule Information
Rule ID: 8081
IF Name: ALL
Apply Stateful Inspection: Enable
Direction: Incoming
Rule Action: Accept
Log Option: Disable
Admin. Status: green
Oper. Status: green
Security Level: Low
Medium
High
Blacklist Status: Disable
Log Tag:
IP Fragment Pkt: Ignore
IP Option Pkt: Ignore
Time of Day Status: Enable
Start Time: 00:00:00
End Time: 23:59:59
Rule Description: 1.Protocol eq TCP
2.TCP Flag All
3.Dest Port equal to 80
-------
Best wishes,
Eric T
Hi, thanks for the quick reply!
Just uploaded my config file but noticed something quite interesting. Despite NAT being shown as disabled on the web interface the config file still contains the lines
'modify nat global tcpidletimeout 3600 tcpclosewait 30 tcptimeout 20 udptimeout 20
create nat rule entry ruleid 4294967295 napt '
which were the settings I had been using previously. This is despite typing 'modify nat global disable' and committing. Tried this many times and checking the config file but the command still doesn't make it into the file.
Will try overloading the connections tonight and will post back with the results
Eric T, firstly, use telnet to enter rules. the "commands" you posted are almost meaningless to me. Secondly, if you read the pages here (particularly the recipes page), you will have all your answers. Well, most of them. The security level changing itself is a new one on me. Really, you need to get into a telnet session and do commit, to be certain that your rules will "stick".
Shaun, yes, that is interesting. Damn! I wish I hadn't blown up my test router! The 4294967295 napt rule is built-in, but you should be able to delete it easily enough..mine's deleted, and has remained deleted through a couple of reboots, too. Try it, reboot the thing, and then doand see what you get.
The timing commands aren't a problem, if the nat is disabled, they will have no effect.
for now..
;o)
em am just askin do u know wa the BT Voyager 2091 is like an if it is gdgd to get of me m8 an wa mbps does it send out pls
Hi
I have a little problem
I have voyager 205 on BT Broadband 2mm, and i play a lot in warcraft 3 FT. But when im hosting games players have many disconnects. I made port 6115 forwarded, static ip and dns are sut up. im using 3com network adapter and windows xp
Can somebody please translate tony's comment!
teeron, I must direct you upwards to the main body text, you will find tweaks that will resolve your troubles. Particularly the Max IP Connexions tweak, and TCP/UDP time-out tweaks.
Have fun!
;o)
Hello Coz and hello to all! Your site is great, I've learned a lot of things.
I would have need of aid.
I have a Telit AR520 (chip Viking 2) and my ISP (italian) is Libero. I have followed your procedure to activate ZIPB mode: I would like to try it like a "normal modem" in order to exceed the limit of 512 connections.
But... no more connection (nada Internet, it does not exit outside).
I've used Ethernet connection (by defaul: 192.168.1.1 is the router, 192.168.1.2 is the USB and 192.168.1.3 is the Ethernet).
I've activated DHCP server pool with poolid=0, starting with Ethernet IP (create dhcp server pool poolid 0 start-ip 192.168.1.3 end-ip 192.168.1.99 mask 255.255.255.0 gwy 192.168.1.1).
I've switch the DHCP server on, disabled NAT rules, Enable ZIPB mode and Set the PPP interface to "StartOnData".
Commit (obviously), but nothing... no more connections
I haven't a software firewall and I use Windows XP.
I have tried also to create a new Connection Miniport WAN (PPPOE) in Windows.
Always with TCP/IP NIC's parameters on "obtain IP address and DNS automatically".
Where mistake?
Thak you my magnificent guru and sorry for my bad english!
Hey Cor, long time no see aye lol. Anyway, remember that part on my Voyager 205 broke off?? Well i soldered it back yesterday [It wouldn't turn on without it]. And now it turns on and everything, it connects to the internet seems to all be working in that way, except, nothing will come up. Like Google [My Homepage], Msn messenger will not sign in, basically nothing works, and its connected through Ethernet. So what could be wrong, I've changed my DNS Servers to what my ISP specified when i told them to the problem. When i told them the problem and asked for a new Router from them, they said sounds like a DNS, well i tried it and responded back to them and yold them that it didn't work. They havn't replied yet though, so i was just wondering whether you, or any other guys here could work it out?? This is what art broke off and i soldered back on by the way...
The Site is abit messed up, i just use it for stuff like this lol.
soz m8 ill tell u wa i mean u know the wireless new modem u get with bt is it any good
THX A LOT COR
everything is fine now, GOD blees u :))
Hi look im not to great with computers its my birthday today and i got age of empires 2 gold edition trouble is it wont let me play online i also tried your ready made configurations but couldnt find the home folder please help
ive uploaded the cfg file from ur ready made configurations and the unit rebooted but i cant see any difference???
Hi,
First of all, thanks a lot for bringing out this guide. It is just excellent.
I went through all the steps (ALL, seriosuly)to stealth and make my 205 Voyager router work with Emule and things are going so better now, but still get cuts even when I am not on the Internet. Specially the upload rate goes down a lot, and, consequently, the download rate.
I was wondering if BT has noticed about this and are trying to make my life hard (again!!)
Thanks in advance and hope that somebody can help me.
SEE YA!
ok now all my router settings have reset please can someone help me all iwant to do is play age of empires2 online
i know which ports i have to open i just dont know how can someone please help
XBOX LIVE HELP PLEASE!!!!
Anyone who can help me here it'd be appreciated, this may sound long whinded but I want to make sure i've covered all the bases.
Firstly I have activated the DHCP server for ports 192.168.1.50 though to 99 (as mentioned on here).
I am using a netgear switch (Netgear FS605 5-Port 10/100Mbps Platinum Network Switch).
I had a connection to XBOX Live for about 2 hours today then it went dead and won't reconnect?
The settings are as follows (please correct where necessary)
IP ADDRESS
CONFIG AUTO/MANUAL (MANUAL SELECTED)
IP ADDRESS - 192.168.1.50
SUBNET MASK - 255.255.255.0
GATEWAY - 192.168.1.1
DNS SERVERS
CONFIG AUTO/MANUAL (MANUAL SELECTED)
PRIMARY DNS - 192.168.1.1
ALTERNATE DNS - 212.159.11.150 (DNS SERVER THAT CAME WITH THE COMMITEDCFG.CFG FILE ON THIS WEB SITE)
PPOE SETTINGS
CONFIGURATION ON/OFF (OFF SELECTED)
USERNAME - N/A
PASSWORD - N/A
SERVICE NAME - N/A
ADVANCED
WIRELESS - N/A
HOST NAME - N/A (DHCP POOL NAME 50 THOUGH TO 99 IS "home" SHOULD I TYPE THIS?)
MAC ADDRESS - N/A? (NOT SURE ABOUT THIS ONE)
Do all of the above settings seem correct and should this work, am I incorrectly setting up the static IP? I have tried leaving the IP ADDRESS and the DNS SERVERS to AUTO but it doesn't make any difference.
It finds the connection.
It recognises the IP address.
It fails on the DNS Servers yet as far as I can tell it is all correct?
Please help Cor and others!
Thank you :)
Steve, telnet into the unit (there's a link you can just click, above) and find out what firmware version you have. Ensure you are using the correct script for that version, ie. v1.6 or v1.8. If you have v1.6, there are loads of ready-made scripts, and it should be easy enough to edit one of the game scripts to suit your needs. You might also need to add DirectX Ports - there's a link to what games use what ports up in the Useful Links section, above these comments. You read the page, right?
Or you can just start from a reset router and go through the steps one-by-one yourself; delete the built-in firewall rules, do the timing and connexions tweaks, add the stealth rules, add the recipe for your game, etc, but starting with a ready-made is a better idea, if at all possible. You sussed the FTP, then. Good.
If you're still sticking, check the troubleshooter for potential issues (foot of the troubleshooting page). May the force be with you. And, happy birthday!
Sunday!
I'll be back in a bit for the others, probably.
;o)
I have a BT 2091 wireless ADSL router. I am using tiscali broadband, and this router says cannot use tiscali and I can only use BT usernames.
Any way around this?
ok i spent 2 hours pretty sure i opened all the necessary ports to play age of empires gold edition online i tried the p2p port test thing and 1) it gives me an entirly different ip address and 2)im sure it says ports arnt open im noy 2 good with computers please help
connexion details..
Your ip address: 86.128.216.155
p2p port probed: 1863 connexion status..
No route to host
thats what i got when i did the p2p proe thing the ip address i have been asigned on the game is 192.168.1.3 im now really confused i spent 2 hours in telnet making the right rules and shit please help and yes im on the voyager 205
ok ive pretty much spent 3 days with no sleep just because i want to play age of empiers 2 gold edition and yes i am a noob i think ive opened the correct ports but when i test the port on ur p2p probe thing i get an entirly different ip to what the game has told me my ip is and im ery confused if you can help me ill be over the moon well because ive been awake for 3 days and today has been the shitest birthday ever because of all this
im not just asking for your help cor im begging i want to get this sorted im not very good with computers and im at a loss please help me then youll be a star
Hi MarkUK,
Ma> ...i soldered it back... ...nothing will come
Ma> up... ...its connected through Ethernet...
Pardon me if i seem out of line, i'm unaware about
what's your level of expertise but i'll do my best
to make some sense. Could you identify this part?
I took a good look at the photograph you've posted
and this seems pretty much like a Power Rectifier ,
it's like you reconnected the gas tank in your car
and expect to hear a difference in the speakers...
I don't know the story behing but lets hope that's
not the result of some excessive heat we see here!
soz m8 ill tell u what i mean u know the wireless new modem u get with bt is it any good
Steve, you need to allow the ports for AOE on your router, either through the commitedcfg.cfg (home dir) file or via telnetting into the router. If you click on "nat recipes" at the top of this page it gives some generic examples. just modify the port number.
It will show a different IP than the static one you have specified as you are only setting a static IP on your LAN so other computers in your LAN/Router know which computer certain rules are for.
I got port 3074 working for UDP/TCP but experienced no ends of problems configuring port 88, in the end though I did it! XBOX Live is now working!!!
It wouldnt let me do this:
create ipf rule entry ruleid 88 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq num destport range num 88 seclevel high medium low
but it would let me do this:
create alg port portno 88 prot num 6 algtype ftp
I assume this is correct since it works?
ERRRMMMMM....
Just noticed the xbox pdf file in your FTP folder, apologies for being a newbhie and not checking first!!!
Any body got any ideas about the BT 2091 wireless ADSL router??
any hacks for this to allow it to work on other ADSL providers
HI all, long time since my last visit, nice smart looking pages BTW..... after many good years use (not sure about that really) i'm looking to replace my 205 with a linksys wireless-g ADSL gateway ... anyway i must have put a password in the 205 at some stage as it wont let me in anymore, is it possible to reset the thing back to factory settings? I need to look and see if I have a bt username and password anywhere as the wireless thing wants a user name and password also the PPPoE test fails on the 205 test page is that normal?
does the phrase 'in deeper that I care to think about' sound familiar?
Les
Gadget i think the little reset button on the back of the 205 resets it back to factory settings ;)
and the default password and username are both "admin" w/o quotes ofc :) and that's on both the 205 and the Linksys :p
Bael
Ahh Luca, like you say, your unit uses the Viking II chip, which is only similar to the Viking I.
Probably the best thing you can do is mail me your config, and I'll have a wee look at it (my record at answering voyager-related mail is not impressive, but I'll try and have a run through it this week). To start throwing suggestions here would be a waste of time, I think, the differences between the two chipsets may be significant, but the cfg file may have some clues in it.
Hi MarkUK, Long time, aye! Bicéphale is spot on (as ever) it is indeed a power rectifier (basically four diodes in a box). I'm pretty sure I told you when you asked previously, also posted a nice close-up pic of the thing to the archives,. Ahh yes, here it is. Note also the file name! And like Bicéphale says, that has nothing to do with any connectivity problems you may be having. If the rectifier wasn't functioning, there would be no power to the unit, at all, nothing.
All you do now is upload your backed-up config file. You have a back-up, right?
Steve, hopefully you've had some sleep now. I know exactly what staying up for three days (which you didn't) feels like, I can only imagine what it feels like staying up three days struggling with some technical thing about which you haven't a fucking clue! I wouldn't have attempted such a thing on my birthday, or even my day-off, for that matter.
Now, instead of jumping up and down, and spamming my comments, why not try to do this methodically. Start by actually reading the pages here. I guarantee it will take you but a fraction of the time it took me to write them, and still takes, maintaining them. I don't expect you to pay me (though that would be nice, of course) but I do expect you to make an effort to familiarize yourself with the materials I have so lovingly crafted. People with absolutely no networking background and little idea of computing concepts walk away from here with working setups every day, the difference is in their approach, in their attitude.
And hey! I'm already a star, and I can assure you, flattery and spamming are not the ways into my heart. I will help you all I can, because here we are, and you asked for help, but be clear on this; I have better things to do with my time than chase after kids who much more than networking advice, need a good kick up the arse!
If you still haven't cracked it after reading the pages here (at least four of those wee links at the top-right) then read them again, more slowly this time. Then read my first reply to you (above), and follow the advice there. Reset the unit, upload a script or do it manually, etc.
If you still have difficulties, compose yourself and make ONE comment, containing specific details of your setup, IP addresses of the machines, the console, any error messages you may see, and importantly, confirm that you have been through every single line of the troubleshooter and checked off everything.
Please don't post again until you have done these things.
Well, Yogi Bear, the prognosis is not good. Unless you have a *very* old version of the firmware, your router is locked into the BT network (you could check that, just in case, but it's very unlikely that you do). No one has a fix, yet, though apparently the firmware itself is available from BT (on CD!) so if we could pair someone with the desire and cash with someone with the coding skills, who knows?
All we know about the device, so far, is up in the comments. Feel free to scroll back through time!
Don't worry about it, Chris, it's fairly common!
The reason it wouldn't let you do that rule is that the rule itself is invalid. "range num 88" isn't possible. Check your syntax against the recipes page if you want to try something like this again.
Chris (and Steve, too, I guess) You might like to check out the recently updated Stealth Page, with a section just for you guys!
By the way, using an FTP alg is rather inspired. I'll have to think about that. You say it works just fine? And with no matching firewall rule? Mail me your config!
Ahh tony! I see!
Cheers Inspector gadget! Bael's right, as usual, a pointy object is all you need to fix your troubles.
Right, back to work..
;o)
I'll mail you my cfg tonight when I get home (prehaps as a trade off you could have look and see if any "tweaking" is possible for my setup
I did also use a firewall rule for 192.168.1.5 to allow port 88.
Hi decided to reset the router by pressing the reset button on the back and now i cant get back in.The main problem lies in having lost the handbook.... The ethernet light on the router hasnt come on and ive already tried setting the Ip etc with no luck. I am thinking that there might be a procedure for resetting it at the back other than just pressing it ( as my us robotics has some thing like that). It would be good to have a bit on your page about resetting the router via the button for us numpties who have lost the hand book and to make sure that we are doing the right method etc.
Cheers your site is a great help and interesting ceri
Hi Coz, see you have updated the site, very nice! Can you recommend me a wireless router that will accept all the commands my Voyager 205 does from here?
Cheers!
Hi Coz!
I've send you my actual configuration file (AR520 like a router) by e-mail
Bye!
When I Open My Modem Configuration, It Let Me Click On Advanced To Get The Options Up, I Entered The Passwords But It Wont Let Me Click On Ip Routing, Or Any Of The Other Options For That Matter. I Have Called Bt But There All Foreign Therefore They Dont Have A Clue. Please Could Some 1 Help As Im So Desperate To Get my ps2 Online!!!
please e-mail if poss
Frenchy
Rofl Frenchy, that's the craziest grammar I have ever seen
Hi cor and others,
I have finally made the bt 205 work But i dont know how to configure it for my existing PPPoe internet. Currently i have a modem which always connects to a particular router/ ( xx.xx.xx.xx) and all i have is a login and password for it. It seems to have a dynamic ip. I have to share the adsl connection with 2 computers using adsl 205 voyager and a switch( How do i do it ) so the question is how do i configure my bt 205 to the current PPPoe connection . My home networking is perfectly working . I have a switch and bt 205 voyager. How do i configure my ppoe to connect to my current isp ( All they gave me is a login and password ad it always connects to a particular / fixed router address, but the ip address is dynamic. Hope i have been clear. Help appreciated. I am just a beginner so be nice...;-)
Cheers
druids
so cor wa ur sayin m8 is tha i shud just stay with my 205 dnt get the wireless router/modem. an also is they a way tha if u turn ur bt voyager 205 of wen u turn it bk on can u just make it so the settings stay ther pls. an also can u just send me ur config file for ur bt voyager 205 pls
Hey Cor, I dont have a backup config? so is that the reason its not
Cor mate. I've been a complete !IDIOT! After all of this, i forgot to active the username and password on the voyager.home bit, ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT A TWAT! lol Sorry to hassle you mate lol, Gonna use your page and sort it out now mate, thanks again Mark. (Lovin' the new look btw smiley for
Frenchy
This one i know load ur central station disc on ur ps2
enter the following on how you connect then save to memory card
IP Address: 192.168.1.35
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.1.1
DNS server: 192.168.1.1 (Use '192.168.1.2' as a secondary if required)
then
1. Open you preferred web browser to http://voyager.home to access the BT Voyager 205 Configuration Manager
2. Select the "Advanced" menu option on the left and then select "Advanced"
3. Enter the username and password for the router (the default username and password is 'admin')
4. Select the "IP Routing" menu
5. From the drop down list of "NAT options:", select "NAT Virtual Server/DMZ"
6. From the "Rule Flavor:" drop down list select "DMZ"
7. In the "Rule ID:" box, enter '50'. This number can be any numeric value not previously used and is merely an index number to identify the rule. Use a different number if you know rule 50 is already being used
8. Into the "LAN IP Address:" boxes, enter the IP address assigned to the console (in the example above, '192.168.1.35').
9. Click the Apply button
10. Click the red Save button on the left to save your settings.
11. Close the confirmation screen that appears.
hope that helps thats what i did for my ps2
now please dont shout at me ive spent several days on here trying 2 sort my problem but yes im old and thick i need to open some ports these are
80
2300-2400
47624
i think thats all and its for TCP and UDP
its so i can play age of empires 2 gold edition with my son and my nephew and some of the boys from work please help as im none to clever at this and stuck
thank you
Steve port 80 should already be open by default, but here's the rules you'd need to enter to open all those ports on UDP+TCP.
TCP
create ipf rule entry ruleid 808 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq tcp destport eq num 80 seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 2300 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq tcp destport range 2300 2400 seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 47624 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq tcp destport eq num 47624 seclevel high medium low
UDP
create ipf rule entry ruleid 8080 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq udp destport eq num 80 seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 2301 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq udp destport range 2300 2400 seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 47625 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq udp destport eq num 47624 seclevel high medium low
NAT
create nat rule entry ruleid 808 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.3 lcladdrto 192.168.1.3 destportfrom num 80 destportto num 80
create nat rule entry ruleid 2300 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.3 lcladdrto 192.168.1.3 destportfrom num 2300 destportto num 2400
create nat rule entry ruleid 47625 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.3 lcladdrto 192.168.1.3 destportfrom num 47625 destportto num 47625
Obviously, modify the rules if you have set your puter with a different IP address to 192.168.1.3 :)
Bael
Brilliant! Being a newbie on this thins this website was a great help... I think my downloads will go better now :-)
Could anyone explain why I never have to open or forward ports for games? I am all stealthed up, yet the only time I need to open ports is for Bitorrent. Is there something wrong in my setup or is it just the stateful inspection kicking in?
Good work dudes!
What's left?..
I got the two configs, Luca and Chris, I'll hopefully get a good look at those tomorrow. But that's not a promise!
That's not a bad suggestion, ceri, but really there's nothing more to it, you just press the button! I do remember trying to hold-it-in-and-power-up with another router that was past repair, but it didn't make much difference, feel free to try some combinations! Whenever I've reset the unit, I simply pressed the button in with the power on and it reboots. But yeah, I probably should put something about the reset button on the main page here, though. By the way, if anyone knows of any "super reset techniques", do let us know!
Are you still having problems getting into the router, ceri? If it won't reset, you might like to try uploading a fresh firmware via tftp, there's instructions around here somewhere.
Recall, as far as I know, there isn't a wireless router that shares the same commands. But the principles are exactly the same, so while the syntax will be different, the knowledge you have gained is good for all routers!
By the way, not all games require ports to be forwarded. If the game initiates the connexion - just like when you surf the web - then data travels both ways without problems. If, however, these games definitely do normally require ports to be opened and they are "just working" on your setup, yes, you'll probably want to take a look at the filter page, ensure everything is as expected.
MarkUK, congraulations! And wadda ya mean "IDIOT"? I never got a memo about your promotion!
tony, my config is in the "ready-made" folder in the archives (check Useful Links, above), help yourself! As for those pesky rules, while you are in the archives, grab the "rad" script.
Frenchy, you saw the troubleshooting page, right? Interesting typing style, by the way.
druids, I'm not sure I fully understand what you are trying to do. It may just be because I'm tired, and it's been a long day, but I'll definitely read your comment again tomorrow.
You say it works, I can't figure out why you want to change that. Why not plug your existing modem into the switch? Hmm, is it USB only, or something like that? What it looks like you need is zipb mode, so check out the tricks page for more details about that, along with the PDF manuals in the archive; the SAR130extra2... document has lots of information about this.
But zipb mode would likely mess up sharing with a simple switch. It's all PPPoA over here, though the 205 can certainly do PPPoE, I've not tested that. It may just be a simple case of creating a PPPoE interface rather than PPPoA. It might simply be a question of plugging it in and trying it out. You say "make it work", what do you mean by that? Have you got the 205 to login to your ISP?
Usually a suck-it-and-see approach is best for these kinds of procedures.
l*rz..
;o)
me again i can hearthe groans allready ive followed the rules above to open the ports ive even opened a couple of other ones that ive found b4 i done that i followed your guide to stealth my router and to assign a static ip address i believe ive done it right but i still cant join the game i go into the lobby the game starts to lanch but then it says unable to join game ive even tried with windows firewall off any1 got any ideas???? thanks for the help so far aswell
Recall id love to know how thats happened as trying to get online for age of empires2 is a complete nightmare perhaps u could take a look at your config for me my email addy is Steve.Hain@hotmail.co.uk
Hello,
I am trying to setup a home based web server, I can get the local page as in 127.0.0.1, or even using localhost commands in my browser. but when I go onto another computer and tryp it in, all I am seaming to get is the BT Voyager modem page, you know I have phoned technical support, and was told, I have the wrond software, I am using windoex XP, and something called Apache2Triad as the base for the server.
I know it is something to do with the modem, because when I was on Cable, I could get online with it, and I was even hosting a few friends web sites, but now NOOO.
Can you please advice me.? on what I might be or most deffently am doing wrong.?
Thank you.
Simon
sorry for spamming wouldnt let me edit my post these are the sites i got my port numbers from if any one is interested fuck me BT are useless (well just as much as i am)
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/895864
http://zone.msn.com/en/support/article/support3401.htm
perhaps it would just be easier for me to switch isp
Hello, see the recipes page, and you are still stuck (you won't be) check out web server troubleshoot on the troubleshooting page.
Steve said..
ive even tried with windows firewall off
Steve, If you've read the pages here, and followed the troubleshooter at the foot of the troubleshooter page, you will know that the XP Firewall must be switched off permanently!
What result did you get when you probed these ports?
for now..
;o)
Hello cor
Well i,ve had enough of BT and there shenanigans
and I am moving the whole freakin lot to Talk Talk
Now talk talk are going to send me a modem ugh!!
but they say I can use my 205 and just alter the settings.
Well if anybody knows how to make it work its your
good self.
So my friend what do I do please.
Best
barney
If i do a DMZ rule, it will forward all my ports automatically, am i right? Also my Router is still cutting out when its get a little bit hot, and ive took the lid off to let the heat out (It's still off now) and its still happening, i dont actually even think it has to be hot, how can i fix that? like, its just cut out again, as im typing this, because msn has signed out, now i know this is not right, ive only just turned my Router on. How can i fix this? does anyone know?
MarkUK, read the Troubleshooting page! particularly the following sections:
-My router keeps disconnecting all the time!
-Whenever I startup (insert app like eMule/KAD/WinMX/etc) everything else dies!
If it's still not working, then come and post here!
Have fun!
Bael
barney, I felt the same way, did the same thing! It works great, so long as you go to the main voyager front page and enter your new network username and password before you connect the router to the phone line.
tip: as soon as your old BT service ceases (well, after a half hour or so perhaps) you should be setup your new ISP's network. Sure, they may not setup an actual account or even start billing you for many weeks after that, but as far as actual network access goes (and I mean at the mother-of-all-broadband-accounts: BT Wholesale), you should be good to go right off the bat. Have fun!
Yes, I'm saying you may get some free internet for a while.
;o)
ps.. yes, like me you will have a spare modem in a box.
Hey, Im using Azureus, and it's suddenly decided to give me a NAT error message - im getting no incoming traffic. Ive used the rules suggested for port forwarding on the recipies page, but still get the message.
I've used the port-probe here and it reckons im stealthed and ShieldsUP confirms it. Would un-stealthing be possible/advised? If so, how?
Cheers
This probably doesn't have much to do with my modem but when I use a file sharing app or internet intensive program, I lose the ability to browse the web. I managed to narrow it down to the DNS not resolving names. The way I fix this is by going into to windows services.msc and restarting the dns client.
It's a bit of a pain and was just wondering if anyone else has had this problem and more so if anyone knows why this is happening and how to stop it happening?
Cheers Steveo
Anyone make any progress with the 2091 firmware hack?
D
Steveo, read the Troubleshooting page! particularly the following sections:
-My router keeps disconnecting all the time!
-Whenever I startup (insert app like eMule/KAD/WinMX/etc) everything else dies!
If it's still not working, then come and post here!
Have fun!
Bael
redfox, no. instead, fix the trouble (i'm assuming it worked for you before). Start by rebooting everything. Perhaps your setup suffered some anomaly (like our weird power thing in Aberdeen last week). Then run the "Rad" script on the router, and test it again.
If you haven't changed anything, and suddenly "everything stops working" (or whatever) then whatever you do, don't start tweaking! Unstealthing doesn't allow incoming connexions to your peecee, you'd still need the correct port-forwarding rules in place.
Aye steveo, the DNS is just another symptom. If you can't get DNS quesries back, almost nothing works. But the actual problem is, yes, covered in the troubleshooting page.
Nah dav, still waiting for someone to stump up and buy the source code from BT, and then a volunteer to hack-and-test.
for now..
;o)
Cheers cor
Where do I input this info
on the new network I have no
idea!!
best
barney
Click that link I put in my post, barney, takes your straight to the page.
It's that Voyager front page we know and love!
When you are connected it shows your "Connection Status". But when you are disconnected, it shows the spaces for username and password.
To switch ISP..
- Disconnect the phone line (maybe for a half hour while it "migrates")
- Enter the new user/pass right here
- Reconnect the phone line.
That's all there is to it!;o)
ps.. as it's getting common
I've done all the stuff in the trouble shooting page. The problem isn't when I start up a file sharing progam. It's after a couple of hours of using one maybe. And it's only the names it can't resolve, it still connets to ip numbers no bother. It's not a huge problem, like I say I just restart windows dns client. Was just wondering if anyone had any in depth knowledge of the problem?
Cheers
Cheers cor
I know, that you know, your a star
but your a star anyway
Thanks
best
barney
Can anyone help with using xbox 360? I have to use the usb on my pc wich i know causes problems. I have been told on the xbox forum that you cant connect to the 360 using media connect and the usb cable. I want to know if there is any fix for having the 360 on ethernet, the pc on usb and use media connect to stream music. Or is it because of usb cable it will never work?
deleted post because it's all WORKING!!!
for now.
Sorry to be a pain but I had to ask, what should be used instead of:
create alg port portno 88 prot num 6 algtype mirc
to allow port 88 to work correctly, uninterupted?
e.g
create alg port portno 88 prot num 6 algtype ftp
create alg port portno 88 prot num 17 algtype mirc
create alg port portno 88 prot num 17 algtype ftp
?
or does it not really make any difference?
Thanks
Also, for some reason I have to telnet into my router to add the command:
create ipf rule entry ruleid 88 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq num destport eq num 88 seclevel high medium low
and as soon as the router is switched off, the above command is removed from the commitedcfg.cfg file and has to be re-telnetted back on?
Just to clarify it wont allow:
create ipf rule entry ruleid 88 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq tcp destport eq num 88 seclevel high medium low
OR
create ipf rule entry ruleid 88 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq udp destport eq num 88 seclevel high medium low
So the num has to be inplace of the text in bold above.
Hope someone can help me on my final few tweaks! it'll be working perfect VERY SOON!!!
Chris.
How come when i do all the instructions on the ZipB mode part (using Telnet), when i turn the NAT off, the internet stops responding, and i have to reset the modem for it to work again?? Because i need to use it as a normal modem so all the ports are forwaded, thankyou :)
For anyone interested I am currently testing the v1.8 firmware with various different settings. Hopefully by monday I should have a script which is fully working with V1.8 and has built in Xbox support.
Chris.
cor m8 how do u do the config file pls
We decided to go for the BT broadband and received the pack in December and installed it on our home PC. The router is a BT 205 ADSL Router and it is connected to the PC by a USB connection.
We were advised by the BT helpdesk to install the free zonealarm virus download so we did that too.
Broadband worked ok but when I returned from my course with my Tablet PC and tried to connect to the internet we found that it ground to a halt after 2 or 3 mins and then the whole tablet seemed to freeze and the only way of making it work was to unplug the router from everywhere and wait a few mins and then reconnect. The tablet is connected to the router via an ethernet cable so we thought we could have both the home PC and the tablet working at the same time. After a process of elimination we have realised the Tablet PC works fine if the USB cable for the home PC is disconnected from the router. If I disconnect the ethernet cable and try the home PC alone the internet still stops working and the computer freezes.
Since the problem started a warning message has come up on the home PC when I turn it on saying:
"C:/windows/systems/zonelabs/VSMON.EXE Validation failed for C:/windows/systems/VSINIT.DLL - You are probably missing a Root Certificate."
I looked up this message on the zonealarm help page and it told me how to uninstall and reintall the root certificates but when I followed the procedure I did not get to the same pages as they said so I have not done this. From looking at the previous questions on this site, it appears as though the USB cannection is a bad idea for internet connections and should use ethernet instead. However, are there any fixes for the USB problem?
nope, no fixes....disconnect the USB, un-install ALL BT software, get a switch(that's the 8-port version of the one i have, seems they don't sell the 4-port model anymore) an have both your puter and tablet connected by ethernet at the same time :) can pick a switch up for around £5-10 so not breaking the bank :p
also zonealarm is a firewall right? un-install that and follow all the directions on this section of corz.org :)
Have fun!
Bael
dear dear,
I run a small office of networked apple macs with lastest software etc through a netgear DG814 router/modem on BT Business Broadband 2mb 'single' not 'network'. Everything works beutifully and has done for a couple of years.
MY QUESTION: if I want to set up an FTP server from one of the macs, I figure it would be best to order a static IP address. I dont want to mess things up here as everything works so 'automatically well' on the local network. I guess they all use DHCP right? If i got a static IP would this have any bearing on anything other than the router/modem which is obviously the 'gateway' to the web.?
PS I have already port forwarded FTP to the particular mac IP address. ANy advice on this would be also useful.
please excuse my lack of exact knowledge.
steveo, I'd check your windows network settings. nameservers and such. Refer to the static IP page.
tony, check the "selectors" above these comments. one of them takes you right to the page you need.
Chris, there is a basic v1.8 script in the archives, but an xbox one would be handy, too. Theoretically, once the base script is AOK, creating variations should be easy enough, just altering the various ipf/nat rules.
Does the v1.8 config I put up, work?
And did you try the timeout at 0, that looks promising as a "nevertimeout" replacement.
And why not try the perfect stealth technique? One rule, set and forget. As fruity as the ALG's are, they won't allow incoming connexions on their own, looks like you still need to open ports and route the NAT.
Please, try the console stealth (aka. Perfect Stealth) technique. Should save a great deal of hassle. Then, if you confirm it works okay, we could put *that* config up, instead. One size really should fit all! (at least all consoles)
MarkUK, at the risk of sounding redundant, if you just need a "normal modem", why not use a normal modem. Surely every household has a box full of speedtouch/intel anytime/green frog USB modems kicking about. Go for it! And send me your old 205, so I can experiment on it!
chippy, you don't need to read the comments to know that USB is a mistake, it's in big bold letters (and comes with a nice descriptive picure) in the main article. Why did I bother writing all that text?
pillock, no you don't need a static IP for the gateway (a dyndns address is fine), so long as your LAN computers (at least the one hosting the FTP server) has a static IP, all will work as expected.
Check out the recipes page for more details about this exact topic.
;o)
after 3 hours finally got the 205 connecting to my isp, but there is no way i can log on to the voyager advanced page after the first logon screen details are entered error401 keeps popping up .I'm 100% connected . any ideas .................PLZZ
I wanted to connect my AOL broadband via ethernet not usb.
I sourced a voyager 205 of the internet...OK OK? and inspite of everything I've done it won't connect. It won't access the web interface at all. and after I tried the last ditch possibility on your pages it now won't telnet using admin (it did before. Any good ideas before I go and kick the cat, get drunk and curse e-bay.
after 3 hours finally got the 205 connecting to my isp, but there is no way i can log on to the voyager advanced page after the first logon screen details are entered error401 keeps popping up .I'm 100% connected . any ideas .................PLZZ
frustrated, yes; start by resetting the unit (recessed button at rear). Your post doesn't make a lot of sense to me; I presume you mean YOU can't connect to the web interface, etc.
Follow the switch ISP instructions on the tricks page. Any troubles, see the troubleshooting page. All the router pages here are worth a read, though. Links at the top.
Knightmare, troubleshooting page, slowly.
;o)
Every thing Ok on Test except PPPoE server connection = NA
No, Knightmare, THIS troubleshooting page!
by the way, thanks for pointing out that the web interface also has a troubleshooting page. probably others have thought that's what I meant, too.
note to self: add link whenever you mention the troubleshooting page!
;o)
ps.. We don't use PPPoE in the UK, at least, not with any ISP I've used.
DOH !!! sorry had to many stellas will try again tomorrow with a fresh brain.. after looking at the troubleshooter (this one) I'm sure its the static IP or lack of one
Thanks
No still wont let me on the advanced screen keeps asking for user id and password ,this should be the same as the connection screen right.
Yes !!! done it user id and password has to be admin and admin i put my isp one in
Hi coz!
I've send you my ZIPB mode configuration.
Sorry for the disadvantage
Hi and thank you
lol Cor, Maybe i'll sell it and make some money
rite i got me bt viyager 2091 2day is ther any way u can open ports or wa ever like tha an can u install the old config file on it
Tried all the tweaks, but the Voyager 205 still drops every 5 minutes for about 20 seconds; how utterly ridiculous as it makes anything interactive almost impossible.
Sat Jan 21 18:12:24 2006 : MAJOR ALARM : ATM Interface Down : Interface - atm-0
$
Sat Jan 21 18:12:24 2006 : WARNING : PPP Interface Down : Interface - ppp-0
$
Sat Jan 21 18:12:24 2006 : WARNING : ATM VC Down : Interface - aal5-0, PortId=7,
Vpi=0, Vci=38
Sat Jan 21 18:12:24 2006 : MAJOR ALARM : DSL Interface Down
$
Sat Jan 21 18:12:46 2006 : STATUS ALARM : ATM Interface Up : Interface - atm-0
Sat Jan 21 18:12:46 2006 : STATUS ALARM : ATM VC Up : Interface - aal5-0, PortId
=7, Vpi=0, Vci=38
Sat Jan 21 18:12:46 2006 : STATUS ALARM : DSL Interface Up
$
Sat Jan 21 18:12:52 2006 : STATUS ALARM: PPP Authorization Successful : Interfac
e - ppp-0
$
Sat Jan 21 18:12:52 2006 : STATUS ALARM : PPP Interface Up : Interface - ppp-0
BT is no help at all (told me to flush my cache!). Line seems reasonable (from my limited knowledge)
Local Tx. Power(dB) : 11.34
Remote Tx.Power(dB) : 14.59
Local Line Atten(dB) : 50.5
Remote Line Atten(dB) : 29.5
Local SNR Margin(dB) : 28.0
Remote SNR Margin(dB) : 23.0
Any ideas would be *very* appreciated.
Well, mine did this al606, So i did these..
modify ppp global keepalive enable
modify ppp global pppsesstimer nevertimeout
modify nbsize maxipsess 512
modify nat global udptimeout 20
modify nat global tcpidletimeout 3600
modify nat global tcpclosewait 30
modify nat global tcptimeout 20
commit
Obviously you do that through Telnet And then mine worked perfect, Reset your modem and do them commands
anyone out there manage to get hold of the 2091 firmware code from BT? I've emailed them a few times, no response yet.... I'd love to hack the code and use the 2091 as my adsl router (tiscali)
Rich
i keep getting this warning in telnet, my 'DSL' light on my BT Voyager 205 keeps flashing,
aswell as the ethernet light.the 'DSL' light flashes 1st then sets the 'Ethernet' light flashing
, i keep getting d/c all the time coz this always happens,iv gt microfilters in everything
iv enetered all the commands on the website n commited them etc... .any1 help? =(
this sucks big time! :(
[superfluous repetative data snipped -ed]
MARKUK,
I did all those commands (and even checked to see that they took), also upgraded the firmware to vesion 1.8
I also tried unhooking *everthing else* (phones, computers, etc) which might be interfering.
RESULT: no change :-(
I'm going to try and borrow a modem from a friend and see if that makes any difference.
Al
I am facinated by this page. its a glimpse of a whole new world.
I would really like to connect to aol broadband through my voyager 205 so if anyone has some step by step instructions already typed out- and dont do a special job just for me...then please do send them to me
Anyone managed to unlock the BT VOYAGER 2091 router to other ISP's ?
Thanks
Raj
Got 205 and it works fine with my laptop direct except dsl line keeps droppping after a bit. BT have decided it's the line from house to exchange is faulty - we are in a rural area. It took a month to get any connection as couldn't get steady dsl light - all BT's fault. At first they sold me 2mb then said line couldn't support it so have 1meg. May have to go down to 512k if that solves dropping out but they've said they can boost the signal first.
This is probably whats causing problem above - not you but BT lines.
p.s. came to this page to get 205 working with ethernet hub for family network as we moved house and from ISDN to adsl so want to plug voyager 205 into netgear ds108 hub which was how we had ISDN set up. Looks like this site might hold the answer so thanks for it and I'll go away and try things.
Hmm followed he recpies for certain rules ie: emule & Azureus = all green lights ports open after next reboot all ports in stealth ????,when i create the rules do I put the router's IP or my machines.
Also using LNS firewall does this cause any known problems ??
anyone any ideas
Hi,
I'm having a problem with my voyager 205 router when using azerus bit torrent. The internet works fine but when i start azerus, my explorer (Mozilla Firefox)wont find any web pages as if it is'nt receiving information. Once i have closed azerus down it will start working again. Also when azerus is downloading the health stays yellow when it should be green. I have given my computer a static ip address, set thr rule id to 46900 and the same on azerus to allow this. Any ideas on what this could be. I've even tried rsetting the router because i had stealthed it but no difference. Please Help.
ARRGH its starting to annoy me now low id on mule ports now closed on azureus and utorrent, does anybody know how I can delete all the rules ,tried the auto deletion (rad) file don't really under stand it.when i turn off the 205 all the rules that i manually deleted keep comong back
Ok.
I still can't get port 88 to stay after I switch off the router. Is there anyway to force the commitedcfg.cfg to keep the rule when the router is turned back on:
create ipf rule entry ruleid 88 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq num destport eq num 88 seclevel high medium low
?????
PLEASE HELP.
Perfect stealth works a treat! thanks Cor, I have modified the v.18 firmware for P2P support and now GAMES CONSOLE support (xbox/ps2 etc, both my consoles anyway!) :).
I will email you the script tonight when I get home and you can take a look.
Prehaps you can then suggest a few changes and i'll retest it before uploading for all to use. Is there a particular time you could meet on your online chat to discuss it or do you have msn?
Hopefully by this time next week there should be a fully working v1.8 script for everyone :)
Guys! please try and read all my lovingly crafted text before posting, I'd wager a few of these problems would have been solved instantly. Anyway..
tony, I'm sure there is a way to open port in the 2091, but I know almost nothing about that unit, apart from folk want it unlocked. seek out its manual, particularly its command-line manual. Maybe one on the CD?
al606, the power levels on the line look within acceptable limits, I guess, but that still doesn't rule out your line. You are using Ethernet, right?
ItsRich, Manaboutathing, check the advanced page. The firmware should be on its way to me sometime very soon. Then all we'll need are folks willing to hack and pack. Up for it?
I might create a 2091 page so we can coordinate the effort. Though I just know that's asking for trouble.
Harry, you don't need microfilters for broadband. You need those for your regular telephone equipment. If there is a microfilter anywhere near your router or puter, remove it! (I have seen this, more than once) And what state is your router in? I mean, did you start with one of the ready-made scripts? That's generally the best idea.
jon196535, maybe you found the tricks page by now, yeah? By the way, AOL might be cheap, but so are other ISPs, you sure about this?
CarlH, troubleshooting page.
Knightmare, reset the unit and start again! Ready-made script if possible.
Good work Chris! The perfect stealth technique was all just theory on my part, so it's good to hear your positive results. By the way, the rule 88 thing, it's just a number, use 888 or 8888 or something instead and it will "stick". Same story for rules numbered 21, 80, etc. I write elsewhere here about this.
I'm seriously considering upgrading to v1.8 myself. Mainly becasue the inconvenience (of not being able to know absolutely whether everything still works as it did) is starting to outweigh the comfort (of knowing that v1.6 works superbly). I have a basic ADSL modem or three if anything goes wrong.
pj, it sounds like you at least went on to read the material here thoroughly. Good! If you have any troubles getting any of the recomendations here working, feel free to drop in any question.
I missed someone, right? Och well
for now..
;o)
v1.8 script now ready and working (
To be honest, looking at a v1.6 script and the v1.8 script they are pretty much identical, a few things are different such as max nbsize etc which your already aware of.
I'll send you the script tonight and you can take a look and see what I mean.
This has certainly been a rollercoaster ride since I first got my router from BT. I feel sorry for anyone who has little/no technical knowledge of a PC as they will never find this site and never be able to get it working to it's full potential or get their console's working.
A bit of a false marketing.
Thanks again.
Cor, thanks for the response.
Yes, I'm using ethernet. I've entered every suggested modification, and even gone back to factory settings once in case I had screwed something up.
My friend was supposed to loan me his adsl modem tonight but he forgot it. He has no immediate use for it, as his phone & internet have both been offline for 4 days and counting (!!).
I'm new to the UK, and am absolutely stunned at the problems I'm reading about in the forums on your problems with broadband. I thought we had issues in Canada because our speed would slow down occasonally, it seems so trivial now!
I've emailed BT again, asking for support from either a manager or an engineer. I sure hope it's just the voyager...and this is just for a meagre 512k connection!
al
Hi all, I've been given a BT voyager 205 adsl router by a friend who already had a wireless router, plugged in via ethernet but I have no idea how to get the damn thing to pick up my bulldog connection. My speedtouch 330 usb modem just asked for username and password and I was away. Can anybody let me know in 'very' simple terms how the thing to work. I assume that it's preset to BT but I haven't a clue how to change it.
I look forward to that Chris! And a note of any console games you play that definitely work would also be cool!
al606, welcome to adsl hell!
It's fascinating how certain areas of the world evolve certain technologies faster than others. Our cellular networks kick-ass, I say by way of consolation
You see, BT used to be a state-owned institution, and though now sold-off and technically a "corporation", many of the old ideologies remain. Basically they are greedy, and aren't exactly known for their competative spirit. But slowly, the networks are diversifying, real control moving to the pavement (sidewalk) box, and BT's stranglehold is loosening. They still own the back-bone, but OFTEL enures they don't get too funky with their wholesale pricing.
Believe it or not, you are one of the fortunate ones! In rural areas the situation is often much worse. I know people, less than an hour's drive from the city, who are lucky to get a 28Kb dial-up link, still further out I know a lass, a 3D designer, who barely manages 14Kb. Try uploading 3D renders on that dodgy wiring!
BT came late to the internet scene. Up until a few short years ago, it wasn't uncommon to get a £300 quarterly phone bill for the most meagre internet usage!
Things are looking up, though. Local Loop Unbundling (unbungling, more like!) is bringing competatively priced 8MB connexions to our City doorstep, and loads of interesting trials of alternative internet provisions, like hydro-electric's mains-wiring 10MB trials, or the WiFi-enabled weather balloons for the very remote, mean that it shouldn't be too long before I can shift my whole operation to a remote Scottish island and still keep my torrrent queue!
I think what I'm saying is, things can only get better!
gumby! It's almost like I knew you were coming! Incredible! There's already a section just for you, right here!
l*rz..
;o)
Hi Cor,
Sent you the file last night, fully working. Includes Xbox and I believe Xbox 360 support (not PS2), also included is P2P support. I removed the 2 DNS Servers from the script as I was unsure what they where for and thought that they could be for your machine. I also noted that the DNS servers in your pre-configured v1.8 script are different to those in the v1.6 script.
Anyway, i've included a text file with the RAR file so you can see exactly what is working and what isn't.
Games i'm playing online include Halo, Halo 2, Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon, Fifa 2006, Forza Motorsport. They all work with port 88/3074.
I do have a question regarding "chipset cooling", the router is getting particularly warm and I am looking for a few chipset heatsinks. After reading the guide/looking at the pics on this web site by Richard Pruen I want to do something similar. Trouble is PCWorld don't have any chipset heatsinks in stock. Do you have any idea what dimension the 2 chipset's which need heatsinks on them are (width, height, depth) as I am trying to get some heatsinks from eBay but am not sure which size to get.
Bye for now mate,
Chris.
Just an update to say I bought the Vantec Iceberq chipset cooler that contains 2 heat sinks which should be the small enough (heigh wise, only 14mm) and from the pictures on this site "should" be the correct size (if there not I will cut them to size anyway :)), and it also contained a fan. I know there is no way this will fit (might be able to do somekind of pikey mod
Chris.
I've also managed to get hold of the firmware source from BT - I just emailed them at voyager2@bt.com asking for it, with my postal address and they sent it out for free on CD (they did to me anyway!)
It's about 360MB so I won't upload it!
If you don't get your copy any time soon cor, let me know and I'll send you my CD (otherwise I'll put it on the HTTP server I'm running - 256k up could be fun!!)
Adam
Hi Coz, I'm Luca... Do you remeber... ZIPB Mode?
I have made some tests via browser, not telnet, and now my router with Viking II chip running in ZIPB mode.
All works fine!
Only problem is that now I cannot more enter in the modem/router configuration windows via browser (192.168.1.1 in Internet Explorer). Also with a Telnet on all range of IP addresses (from 192.168.1.0 to 192.168.1.34) does not answer...
It's normal????
But how can I use integrated firewall in ZIPB? I have read that it can be made...
Please help me... (I can't send you a cfg file... because I can't enter in the configuration windows)
By e-mail, in attached, I've send you a pdf with images of the procedure that I have followed
Thanks...
hi cor,
used your site a number of times when I first got my 205. flashed it with dynalink and had no probs since.
I have now just received a 2091 wireless router and was wondering if you could start a new page/forum for this router because its begging to be hacked. It has the same firmware as the 2100 but when you ftp into it you just get a menu of choices so its not letting me put any nat rules from this site. any ideas?
cheers
Just got a Voyager 205 router, and just found your site FANTASTIC & WELL DONE!
Just so everyone is aware, if your using an Xbox or Xbox 360 the following setting MUST be used:
modify nat global tcpidletimeout 3600 tcpclosewait 45 tcptimeout 30 udptimeout 90
and NOT the suggested:
modify nat global tcpidletimeout 1800 tcpclosewait 30 tcptimeout 10 udptimeout 15
It seems as though xbox live cant work with the lower timeout values and will repeatadly remove you from games and disconnect from the network. This may just be an error with Firmware v1.8 but I tried 5 or so other combinations and nothing bar the above worked. At 1st it appeared as though it was my router causing the problem, but a friend who is also using my v1.8 firmware has also reported the same findings.
Hope this helps.
P.S. Those not using xbox live should be fine and it may work with PC Games/PS2.
hi cor,
this 2091 router uses a BusyBox v0.60.4 shell do u know anything about this?
here is a list of commands the router allows:
?
help
logout
reboot
adsl
atm
brctl
cat
df
dumpcfg
echo
ifconfig
kill
arp
defaultgateway
dhcpserver
dns
lan
passwd
ppp
remoteaccess
restoredefault
route
save
swversion
wan
ping
ps
pwd
sysinfo
tftp
wlctl
cheers!
I connected a wireless router so I could hook up to another computer and the router keep saying that I dont have an internet connection. How do I fix this? All of the router lights are comming on good so I dont know what the problem is. Can you help me?
Thanks
I connected a router to hook up one computer to another. I dont know much about computers. Everything seemed to be going good until it said that I wasnt connected to the internet. I can connect using the eathernet I already have but when I connect the router, I cant seem to get a connection. All of the lights on the router(when connected) come on but I stii get the "No internet connection". Can you explain this in Leighmans terms so I can fix it?
Thanks!!!
digitaldazz: Busybox is not strictly a shell, more a program which provides a lot of the standard functions needed on a Linux system in a much smaller space than the sum of the original programs. It's creator calls it the Swiss Army Knife of embedded Linux - that is Linux which is used, usually invisibly, as the operating system in a device which often has a limited amount of memory and no disk
I suspect you have already discovered that if you type sh at the menu prompt on your 2091, you start the standard shell. If you probe deeper - assuming you are comfortable with command line unix/linux - you will find that much of the guts of the router's work is done, unfortunately, by non-GPL programs from Askey. 'ps ax' is a good command to start with to see exactly which processes are running on your box...
vof
i have just bought a second hand 205 connected it to my computer via ethernet and i can get to the bt site. i can enter my username and password but can't get into any of the setting to set the unit up. can you help
jasmcq :are you using admin/admin for user/password ?dont use your isp usernamw
btw EVERYONE, If your modem does keep cutting out and it isn't a line fault and you've done all of the commands in the post i sent a few weeks earlier, then tru taking the top off your voyager, and taping it down to the surface (to let all of the heat out obviously). I did this and then mine didn't cut out, i did all the commands aswell btw. Just thought i'd let you know
Thanks for the fix. I followed the steps under your trouble shooting page, under the heading: (Whenever I startup (insert app like eMule/KAD/WinMX/etc) everything else dies!) and azerus works fine now and i can still use the web browser while downloading. Brilliant! Since i've done that when i'm trying to play a game online (GT Legends) or (GTR) i keep getting a 'connection lost' message about 2 miniutes into playing the game. It worked fine before i fixed the azerus problem and works fine if i reset the router. Please help.
vof: how can you tell that they r Askey non-GPL apps ?
Ignore this...finger trouble.
vof
Squbel: I have a BT Voyager 220V which offers VOIP via BT's very expensive Broadband Voice service. I also have the GPL source code CD from BT. One of the running programs is 'vodsl' - I can't find any source for it on the CD so I presume BT have built the executable into the firmware. No source->very difficult to hack
I suspect cor would prefer this conversation to continue on the advanced hacking page here and leave this area free for pure Viking based stuff (which the BT 2xxx boxes aren't).
I'll post more about BT/Dynalink/Askey/GPL issues over on that page as I discover it.
vof
Hi again :)
I have 1 big quistion and wish in one.
Could some1 here take more space to talk about configure voyager 205 for games hosting, something like
"modify nat global tcpidletimeout..." and more...
I know that this can be not host fault, but just wanna make game stable as possible, thx for any help.
Goodluck and bye
carlh, you need to enable port 88 and port 3074 for use with xbox otherwise it works for a few minuted then hangs up, it's the same for PS2 however I am unsure what ports need to be enabled. A quick search on the net will tell you i'm sure. If you have an XBOX email me at chrismorley1984@btinternet.com and i'll send you my WORKING XBOX commitedcfg.cfg file that you can upload to your router (Firmware v1.8 so make you upgrade to this first or it might not work).
teeron, the router by default has very long timeouts, so when playing games it keeps connections alive even when you've exited. After time this can make games laggy. The solution is to reduce the timeout's by doing (PC):
modify nat global tcpidletimeout 1800 tcpclosewait 30 tcptimeout 10 udptimeout 15
This should reduce the time between terminating idle connections, and is very good if you search for game servers a lot (using gamespy or the game's inbuilt online game search).
However if your using an XBOX the timeout settings are too quick, and you need to slow things down a little, I use the following with no connection issues:
modify nat global tcpidletimeout 3600 tcpclosewait 45 tcptimeout 30 udptimeout 90
hope this helps.
Sorry if this has been answered in the troubleshooting bit but I am completely computer illiterate. I used to play starcraft with my friends but then we switched our regular bt modem to one of these voyager routers, now I can't play so I need to, "Allow port 6112 TCP and UDP out and in" according to the guys at blizzard. I know its alot to ask but could u PLEASE help me out and put on a step-by-step guide, I am desperate.
Thanking you in advance
Hi :)
Thx Chris, i know about that but im asking for more details for this command...cos there are alot of it.
Maybe its look like im just trying to find whole in all..dunno
But some1 sad : if u looking for , u will find :)
Well most important thing for me here was modify nbsize maxipsess 511 - and now i can host.
I have PC with BT broadband 2mb/288 on 3com adapter plying on Wacraft 3 FT and i live in northen ireland. I heard that i can set that values even less that u show: modify nat global tcpidletimeout 1800 tcpclosewait 30 tcptimeout 10 udptimeout 15
and interesting thing is that when im plying with ppl from england i have laags :P (same as Turkey and ofcourse Brasil).
If any1 will know sometghing more about that timeout settings pls let me know.
Goodluck and bye.
Sorry if this has been answered in the troubleshooting bit but I am completely computer illiterate. I used to play starcraft with my friends but then we switched our regular bt modem to one of these voyager routers, now I can't play so I need to, "Allow port 6112 TCP and UDP out and in" according to the guys at blizzard. I know its alot to ask but could u PLEASE help me out and put on a step-by-step guide, I am desperate.
Thanking you in advance
when i try and enter advanced setting i can enter admin/admin but i dont get anything in each screen. i tried on a different computer and all worked when i switched norton off, i ahve tried on my computer doing the same but get no info coming up ie when i click ip address. do i need to switch something on my pc on or off to view these screens
thank you
Thanks Luca, I got your second mail with the zipb config, I'll have a peek later.
Interesting settings, Chris, UDP 90 ?? That does seem HUGE to what we'd normally recommend for Gamers. I wonder if earlier firmwares need this. Hmm.
jasmcq, that's not a BT site, that's your router! Here. 2dumb2know, head along to that page, too. To get to the settings, you enter admin/admin as the user/pass, not your BT user/pass, that's only for connecting to your ISP. By the way, jasmcq, read the troubleshooter page again!
carlh, you probably just need to create rules for the game, same as you probably did for Azzy. Check out the recipes page. Same goes for you, Donal.
teeron, I recommend you download the PDFs from the archive, they are the standard reference for when you want to know the intricacies of any of the commands. The router's built-in help pages are rather good, too.
I have the source for the 2091 now (thanks vof) and yes, it's probably best to speak about that on the advanced page. I haven't had a chance to have a good rake about, but from what's been said so far, it looks as though it will be more than a simple case of removing some string, or whatever, essential tools will need to be replaced, and more.
Maybe I should put a page somewhere for the wireless routers, a place to put what's known so far. I don't even have one of the things, this could be weird.
for now..
;o)
Hello cor
Switched isp no probs
router working perfectly
Fed up with BT WEB INTERFACE
want to get away from them
totally,(rubbed of BT on front
of router!!)
Which Dynalink firmware works with router
100 or 100+?
Best
Barney
Hi i have just got a voyager 220v! I have tried switching the isp, when i input the username and password i get a message saying "usupported broadbad service" and that its basically only bt that can be sed with it. is there any way to hack the router to use another isp - i tried the recommendation on troubleshooting with no help. i need help quickly! im using a usb modem at the mo and its annoying me severly
edinclimb: Do you mean use the 220V for another UK broadband ISP or for a non-BT Voice-Over-IP (VOIP) service?
You should have no problems with the first one - I use my 220V and I'm with PlusNet - you do need to enter your correct ISP username and password as given to you by your ISP. If your broadband was working with a previous router, use the same settings!
Now the VOIP side is a different kettle-of-poisson. If you don't sign up for BT's Broadband Voice service (and who can afford it?), you should see the following on your initial configuration screen:
Broadband Voice Status
Status: Broadband Voice registration has failed. You will not be able to make Broadband Voice calls.
Phone 1: Broadband Voice is not connected.
(Authentication failure. Please make sure that your Broadband Voice password is correct.)
Phone 2: Broadband Voice is not connected.
(Authentication failure. You may not have subscribed to a second line.)
Attempts are being made to work out how to modify the settings in a 220V to allow it to work with other VOIP services but there's nothing more to be said at the mo.
In case you've problems with basic configuration of the 220V, here's a very quick run-through:
If you've read anything on this site, you will probably realise that we don't recommend using routers via their USB interfaces. If you are using the 220V thusly, you will need to have installed the USB driver. I connect to my 220V via its ethernet interface so I'm afraid I'm completely in the dark about how a USB connection might affect what follows...
Click on Advanced... in left hand menu.
Click on Advanced... at bottom of page.
Click on Quick Setup in left hand menu.
Set VPI to 0, VCI to 38. Click Next.
Set Protocol to PPPoA, Encapsulation Type to VC MUX. Click Next.
Click on Obtain an IP address automatically, Enable NAT should be checked. Click Next.
Enter your correct ISP username and password. Click on Session established by Always On. Click Next.
Leave LAN side settings and Voice settings at default.
Click on Finish to confirm settings and reboot router.
Let us know how you get on.
BTW, what is the Firmware Version listed on your Status/Overview config page?
vof
vof - im using uk online. when i try to enter my ukonline details in the window (enter your username and broadband details) i get the following message "UNSUPPORTED BROADBAND SERVICE - This device has been supplied as part of a BT service and cannot be used with any other services. Please contact BT for further information" - so i did and they said the same "you should be able to use it with another isp". firmware version 2.21.05.07_A2pB018c1.d16d. i cannot upgrade the firmware as i cannot connect to the internet with the 220v. the only reason i got the voyager was so that i could connect it to my airport express via ethernet. im really frustrated that i cant get this to work - im sure there is a simple enough way to overwrite this setting!
Hope this helps and thanks for your reply.
I HATE USB - NO WAY WOULD I BE USING THAT ;o)
Cor: Interesting settings, Chris, UDP 90 ?? That does seem HUGE to what we'd normally recommend for Gamers. I wonder if earlier firmwares need this. Hmm.
I thought those setting where silly aswell to be honest mate.
Maybe it's just me & friends Xbox's that are dodgy or prehaps the 20m RJ45 cable isnt helping matters at my end.
But either way, without those settings I consistently get 'connection lost' during games, the origonal settings are the ONLY ones that work without a hickup.
edinclimb: Interesting! Very interesting!! Your 220V has a later firmware version than mine, and your version appears to be the same one as is blocking Voyager 2091 users from use of other ISPs. (BTW, have you seen the other posts on the advanced page containing more info on this topic? That page is probably the preferred page to use for continuing this debate.)
This implies that one approach to unblocking is to downgrade to the 2.18L.01 firmware, at least for the 220V. That's the one I use successfully with PlusNet. It would be interesting to know if the firmware within any version varies according to the Voyager model, or whether the same firmware version file can be uploaded to any 2xxx Voyager.
Does anyone have a file copy of any of these Voyager firmware versions, or know where they can be obtained? (The BT sites don't have any to my knowledge.)
vof
vof cheers for the reply - anyone who could get a version of this firmware to me would be much appreciated, i will arrange details with someone as and when to send to me.
Does anyone know how to edit the web interface of the browser? i have discovered the following code which is preventing me using other isp details...
//if(modelName == '210' || modelName == '2091'){
if(domainLock == '1'){
if(pppUserNameCheck(pppUserName.value) == true) ;
else {
alert("UNSUPPORTED BROADBAND SERVICE\n\nThis device has been supplied as part of a BT service and cannot be used with any other services.\n\nPlease contact BT for further information.\n");
return;
providing i can acess the guts of the router and change this code it will work! HOORAY - I JUST NEED TO FIND OUT HOW TO DO IT - THIS WOULD MEAN THE 2091 USERS AS VOF SAID WOULD ALSO BE ABLE TO USE IT
Euan
barney, Ian - back in 03.02.05 8:47 pm - says he flashed the thing successfully with the rta100+ firmware. This sound like a risky operation, and while I understand how you feel (I scrubbed the logo off mine the day I got it!), the web interface isn't something we have to look at a lot. But if you feel brave, go for it!
To save you loading all the comments - because my bandwidth is about to run out!
i was brave flashed my 205 with the rta100+ firmware (holds breath, sweating like mad) upload complete, all lights except power go out, diag light comes on (holding breath again), usb light comes on dsl light comes on ethernet light flickers, by now i`ve lost 2 stone by sweating, open browser 192.168.1.1, user login:admin password: admin (hey thats not my 205 inferface it says its a rta100+ (sigh of relief, my god look at all the options) no dsl connection argh vpi 5 vci 38 right change them to vpi 0 vci 38 put in user name/password connect, yes we have the net. the thing with the lights on th rta100+ they are:
power diag ethernet act dsl usb
voyager 205 are:
power diag dsl ethernet usb
so voyager lights now become:
Power Diag Dsl Ethernet Usb No light :old voyager 205
| | | | | |
Power Diag Ethernet Act Dsl USB :New voyager205
i am going to see if i can connect led for sixth light it will mean drilling small hole in case or getting hold of a voyager200/240 case as these are same size just have six light holes.
uploaded the firmware i used.
filename: rta100+ firmware plus manual.zip
regards ian
BTW i flashed back with no problems, i used tftp client 2.0 from weird solutions both times didn`t want to try http update in voyager interface.
So there you have it. Best of luck barney!
Oh, while I remember..
BT GUI DESIGNERS: PLEASE NOTE: People go to their router web interface and think they are at the BT web site, because it bloody well looks the same! Think about it.
I believe you Chris! It just seems very weird. And you have no problems finding servers? The 20M RJ45 shouldn't affect it, that copper pair has probably come a lot farther than that!
edinclimb, vof, interesting noises about the 220V Firmware! It seems we are back to "Who has an old firmware for the 2091?". SOMEONE must have!
Announcing the new non-205 page!
Okay, I put a page up for the non-205 stuff, you can get to that here (and in the menu at the top, too). I've grabbed all (well, most, anyway) of the relevant comments from here (and a couple form the advanced page) and inserted them in there for easy access.Have fun!
;o)
First of all a really big thankyou to the people who have made this site such a great recourse, I've spent the last couple of nights reading my way through it. I hope you might be able to help me get my setup working the way I'd like it.
I'm running the voyager 205 as a modem that I want to plug into my linksys wrt54G. I want to use the linksys for all the nat/firewall duties, as it's set up from my last isp with all the rules in place and is easy to configure.
So, I have the 205 running in zipb mode. If I plug in my laptop it is assigned the ip address that the isp has given the modem and everything works as advertised, I can access the web etc.
Next I turn it all off, plug the router into the wan port of my linksys wrt54G router (configured to get it's address via dhcp). AFter leaving it for 5-10 mins so that the isp will issue it a new IP address, I turn on the modem and let it get a link, then turn on the linksys and let it boot. When I connect my laptop to the wireless link and pull up the admin pages for the linksys, I find that the linksys has been assigned the ip address from the ISP's pool (84.9.110.xxx, with mask of 255.0.0.0). The addresses are always 84.9 but the 3rd and 4th elements change regularly when I pull new IP's down.
So, the router is getting it's address from the modem correctly and is serving my laptop its own ip address from the routers dhcp pool. The router is addressed as 10.0.0.1 and the dhcp pool is from 10.0.0.50 up to 100. This leaves me the 10.0.0.2-49 as static ip's for my laptop/printer/guest pc's etc so that bittorrent etc works correctly. This is how I set up with my last isp anyway.
However, although the router is getting it's address from the modem and they're talking, I can't log in to the modem at 192.168.1.1, it just doesn't see it, doesn't ping it etc. Nor can I get to the internet, although the laptop is connecting fine to the router and the router appears to be connecting to the modem fine.
I've been through the comments etc but wondered it anyone had any suggestions?
Thanks,
J.
sorry to keep pestering but i have read and tried everything and still cannot access any advance menu. i cant get past quick start. if i select advance etc i am prompted to enter admin/admin which i do. if i selectip addressing nothing happens. i can select save and i get a page saying changes saved ( close) i close the page and i am back to quick start having never got any further. i dont know if it helps but i never get a constant dsl light on the 205 but i do on the 105.
thank you
Couple of questions...thanks.
When I log on to BT config manager I can't get past the opening screen showing speed and duration details, which refreshes every 5 secs or so. The left hand menu seems live but I can't get any config details on screen, due to continual refreshing?
Also if you cut power to the 205 do you lose any previous settings in telnet or via BT i/f? Do you need to keep it powered 24/7?
Otherwise the 205 is great. Kazaa working fine. Unreal Tourn also.
Great site, cheers Marky
jasmcq, I had the same problem with accessing the menu's. I was using safari browser on a mac. I switched to using firefox and it works fine. I'm guessing it's something in the way safari does it's javascript. Have you tried switching browsers?
hello can you help please i have sat in front of this comp for 3 days now grrr i have down loaded (pirate radio sofware) it needs port 80 open as standard! (you can change the port number to any ok so ill try 141 seems agood number!still no good the ip it tells me is my home 192.168.1.1 ok ive got that when i go on the de bug page on (www.pirateradio.com) it says 86.135.196.112? ok so how do i set my voyager up ive looked on you site its good but i go round and round 'so iam no good at this'(do you want a holliday to the uk?) if you can help me i will put some links on my website,s for you ? HELLO to other computer users that are like me (not very good at it)thanks peter(uk)
I tried a couple of other things, such as changing the address of the linksys to 192.168.2.1 and then 192.168.1.3. Neither of these made any difference, simply couldn't ping the modem at 192.168.1.1.
Stumped, and hope someone can help.
J.
Justin: Confusing to call them both 'router'! However, the essence of zipb (zero IP/bridge) mode is that the 205 is a transparent bridge - it behaves as if it does not have an IP address and just passes the IP address it is given by your ISP to the Linksys' WAN port. Hence, you won't see it cos from your LAN's point of view, it don't have no IP address to ping
Now, the other half of your problem is why can't you see the internet from the LAN side of the Linksys.
Interestingly, I too have a Linksys router - a BEFW11S4 - and a Netgear DM602 which is a 205 in a posh frock. I tried for ages to get the pair to work with the DM602 in zipb mode and failed miserably. In the end, I ran the DM602 in normal router mode and just connected it normally to my Linksys' WAN port. When you do this, the Linksys WAN port and the modem ethernet port actually have to be on their own network (subnet). In my case, I decided it would be 192.168.0.something with a netmask of 255.255.255.0 (technically known as 192.168.0.0/24). The modem ethernet port is 192.168.0.1, the Linksys WAN port is configured to request an IP address (from the modem's DHCP pool), in my case usually 192.168.0.50. As part of the DHCP, the Linksys gets told what its default gateway - essential for internet access to work - is (192.168.0.1 = the modem ethernet port). They thus can talk to each other nicely. Of course the modem WAN port gets an IP address from the ISP. Now on the LAN side of the Linksys is a completely different network - I chose 192.168.1.0/24 (note the one not zero in there!) whereas you have chosen 10.0.0.0 with a netmask of 255.0.0.0 (i.e. 10.0.0.0/8) which should work just as well. The experts - I'm not one! - tell me my configuration is possibly risky because both the Linksys and the modem are doing NAT, and double-NATting is frowned upon, but it works for me so I'm ignorant but happy.
If you've followed all that, you should be able to get the 205 working with your Linksys, but I suspect you'll need to forego zipb mode on the 205.
vof
Justin, yup, in that configuration, from a network point of view, the router no longer exists! Though, perhaps you might like to try assigning a second IP to your computer.. network connexion properties >> TCP/IP Properties >> Advanced >> (IP Addresses) [Add] (192.168.1.*) to see if that can get you talking to the voyager. Worth a shot. Then, with direct access, you would have a better chance at cracking the other stuff. I might have another zipb session soon, try out a few things.
jasmcq, As well as the advice on the troubleshooting page, I'd definitely try a different browser. Firefox certainly does a grand job.
marky, so long as you "commit" (or "save" from the web interface) the settings should stick. There are a few rule ID's that get deleted and a few rules added when you power-cycle the thing, so 24/7 is preferable, but not essential. There's a script called "rad" (in the archives here) that will delete those automatic rules for you.
As for the web interface issues, check out the troubleshooting page.
foggy, check the recipes page.
Ahhh.. the purple cloak awaits!
;o)
ps.. tech, I moved your comment to the advanced page, links at the top.
Hi,
I'm trying to use my Voyager 205 with an Sipur ATA to make voip phone calls. The set-up is as follows:
PC to ATA
ATA to router
Phone to ATA
There is a known issue that the Sipura does not work well with the 205 because of the ALG's that block the voice sip packets?? (I think that is it) Does anyone have any ideas how to fix this.
Thanks
Mark
hi firstly great site been reading for a couple of hours now but to no avail.A while ago i changed the port that i use for the web interface on my dynalink RTA100+ and yes i have forgotten it (kicking myself) is there a telnet command that i can use to change that setting ??? thankyou in advance
majman, if you export the config, you will see the ALG rules yourself . You might like to try and delete them (or add them, depending); re-upload.
Also check your firmware version; older versions (pre 1.6) had big troubles with SIP, though I had someone in IRC last night with SIP troubles on v1.8, so I dunno. I'm not big on voice chat, so it's not something I've played with a lot.
And definitely apply all the other tweaks here, max connexions, etc.
schambolic, sure, try this..[Viking II CLI Reference [latest].pdf, p370, from the public archives, and above]
for now..
;o)
HELP!! I have had my router setup perfect for ages now with bitorrent ( using utorrent and sometimes azerues atm ). However the last week or so has been hell. Basicallly everytime I download a torrent my connection keeps locking up as if I have a port closed yet i know it isnt. I have two 205's and both do the same. I updated my drivers for my ethernet ( i have a nvidia and a realtek ) neither make a difference. Also tried rolling back to the 1.6 firmware and redoing all the tweaks on both routers and still my connection dies.
Any ideas what is happening? Basically I will be surfing then my connection just dies and so do my torrent speeds and i have to wait almost a minute sometimes for it to recover.
Hi
Thanks for the feedback
New issue----managed to toast my 205 but luckily have a supply at hand. Connected and got the new one working as per the last one (RIP) except cna't get a list of servers in Unreal Tourn now. The game attempts to query the master server but nothing. Old one worked fine? Any ideas?
Great site
Marky
Recall, if you haven't changed anything, why assume the trouble is at your end? I'd get BT to test the line, and their VC; perhaps oversubscribed, or something. Is everything flat-out when this happens?
marky, just upload your old configuration, so long as the firmware version matches, should work fine. Ensure you have the maximum connexion tweak in it, and possibly play around with the timeout tweaks, too.
;o)
VPN Help needed. Do you know if the voyager supports IPsec pass through? I need to connect using VPN for home working purposes and dont seem to have much success. I am using a Nortel VPN clinet to establish a connection, however once the client resolves the hostname I am connecting to it just drops out and says please try again. Help needed configuring router, any ideas?
Thanks
Regie
Thanks Cor
The firmware is V1.1, as was the last one. I uploaded old config but to no avail.
Servers on the 'favourites' tab work and I can connect and play but it doesn't connect to the master server. Very infuriating.
If I could find the ip of the server could I input a specific rule?
Many thanks
Marky
Coz, yeah I guess the fact I tired 2 routers and both the same it cant be me. I am concerned that they might be attempting to throttle me, although I have tried loads of diff ports ( high and low ). The wierd thing is when the torrent is checking the trackers at the start my connection pretty much dies it sucks all the bandwidth somehow. Also I will be happily d/loading @ 54kb and I am surfing the net at the time and all of a sudden my torrent speeds will hit 0 and my connection dies.
NOt sure what to say to bt atm? Whats a VC lol?
Vof/Cor,
Thanks for the suggestions. It explains why I couldn't see the modem on the network. What I did was reset both boxes back to defaults. I set the linksys to have it's wan address as 192.168.2.1 and then plugged everything back in.
Rebooted it all and it works. Perfectly. I now have the modem accessible through the usual page, as is the linksys. The linksys gets it's IP from the modem (192.168.1.3) and passes to my laptop the address 192.168.2.101. All is good.
I've made the essential changes to the modem setup:
ppp global keepalive enable
modify ppp global pppsesstimer nevertimeout
modify ip cfg ttl 64
modify nbsize maxipsess 512
but I've not stealthed the modem or made any other nat changes. As I'd like to use the linksys for all of that, is there anythign else I should do with the modem in this configuration do you think? If I understand the stealthing option, it would mean having to build rules for every nat option into the router. The two standard stealth rules block everything outbound, and would make the natting on the linksys redundand.
Thanks again, at least I'm mobile in the house now.
Cheers,
Justin.
Top Site.
Thanks, My router was slow, unreliable and causing no end of problems with my broadband connection.
Hacked it this morning and it is now working brilliantly, a differnet router altogether. You can't fix my renault 11 as well can you?
I'm having troubles connecting to Bulldog ISP with my Voyager 205. I've put my bulldog login/password into the voyager menu but it won't connect and authenticate with the ISP. Is it still trying to connect to BT? The tel no. I have been given to connect to Bulldog is "0,38" is this different from BT? How can I configure the voyager to try and connect to this number?
Any help would be really appreciated, thanks.
Regie, I'm notoriously ignorant of VPN and its weird protocols, but if your browser is up for it, you can load this page with *all* the comments, and do one of those fancy type-to-find thingies to track down everything I know on the subject. It's doable. I know that.
marky, yes, you could make a rule, but are you sure you need to? querying game servers isn't something that should need an incoming connexion. Have you tweaked the time-outs? Upgrade your firmware to at least v1.6, at any rate.
Recall, don't worry about the VC, it's some old medal brave folk got in World War II. BT have a few of them, and apparently they use them for ADSL; particlar type of gold dust for the contacts of the virtual circuit, or something like that.
Firstly, I doubt very much that BT is throttling you. That's the last thing they want to do. Think about it; if you go torrenteering at even half your maximum speed you'll use up your monthly allowance in a week, and then they can charge you quite frankly criminal prices for EVERY GIGABYTE on top of that.
No, if you are a BT customer, you'll need to throttle yourself.
(I didn't initially mean that literally!)
But I don't think that's your trouble. You say the connexion dies when the torrent is being checked??? This leads me to believe that the problem is more likely with your computer. Checking a torrent (hash) is a disk-intensive process, and even the fastest peecee will stutter some while its going on (I do my torrenteering on a different box, so I don't notice, but I know that pulling up an ssh session to that box while it's happening takes a good 500% longer, and VNC is unusable, and I can *hear* it churning away, too). Are you using USB?
So long as the maximum connexions tweak is applied, and the torrent client is capped to no more than 80% of your maximum upload capacity, there's no reason why a torrent should kill anything.
Justin, the two stealth rules allow all outbound, and deny all inbound, very simple. But you might prefer other rules. For instance, the "pass" flavour of NAT rule may be useful, and maybe make one big one to pass through everything. "bimap", perhaps. Fiddle around if you like, and let us know of any interesting results!
Nah Ed, I'm a bit rusty with motors. Mind you, for a Renault, maybe that's just what you need, a rusty mechanic for a.. oh dinnae listen tae me!
Great news on the router!
Booner, that's like saying "I can't pick up the BBC World Service on this infra-red reciever!"
ADSL doesn't use telephone numbers. There is *nowhere* to enter one on the 205, for that reason. ADSL is very like a regular network, it "just is", and once you've plugged into it, you become a part of it. All that remains is to authenticate.
But first, are you a part of it?
Use the diagnostics HERE to see if you are connected to the network. If there's a problem, you'll see what it is. If you don't get anything meaningful from that, run the advanced diagnostics.
If you "migrated" from BT to bulldog, your connexion will break for a time, but not so long; mine was a half hour. After that you should be able to enter your new username and password and connect. I assume you read the section in the tricks page. Disconnected the phone line, etc.
As well as the diagnostic results, tell us, did the new username and password "stick" when you entered it?
for now..
;o)
ps.. Booner, on re-reading your post, I notice you say Bulldog gave you a telephone number to connect to. Huh? The 205 is only for broadband. If you have purchased a dial-up package, you'll need to use a regular 56k modem. If you did purchase broadband, perhaps this is a "backup" number, some ISP's give you this for if (when) the broadband service goes down. But again, you use a regular modem for that.
If you are new to broadband, it takes some time for the line to be activated. They will mail you about this, though.
Having a few issues with my bt 205.
Tried a full reset and setting it up using your recomendations for firewall etc.
Plugged it into the lan port of my linksys befw11s4 wireless router and turned the linksys to router mode and dhcp off.
Then I removed some ips from the 205 dhcp range for my computers and set them up with static ips. using the 205's ip and one of external as dns.
I then set up a firewall and nat rule to let in/out all my bittorent traffic for utorrent on port 10111.
worked a charm i was showing as connectable on torrents for once and the internet seemed just that fraction zippier.
trouble is that it locks up every 30 mins and the diag light comes on , it gets well hot and i have to reset.
If I factory reset it then plug it into the wan port on the router and move the router to a diff subnet and let the router handle dhcp it all works fine but i am unable to work out how to forward the ports through to my pc's?
I'm hoping you can help if only to tell me how to turn the 205 into a plain adsl modem so i can use the linksys to firewall and nat.
Mark
me again,I had an active broadband account with BT and know that the bulldog modem is broadband modem also. It's just strange because the authentication details did stick but it doesn't connect. I was wondering if the BT modem was configured to only establish BT connections. I'm using the Bulldog connection via the bulldog modem at the moment so I know it works, but wanted to switch to the BT modem so I could connect to a router for the rest of my housemates. :S
Booner, I just bought a 205 off ebay, it was setup for BT broadband. I have bulldog, put in the username and password and away I went, no problems connecting.
Are you sure the line has been switched over to bulldog, have bulldog confirmed this. It took a week to get my line switched over.
Hope this helps.
J.
What I did ?
* Connected bt 205 in zipb mode. I connect my netgear gear wireless access point (MR814 V2)to the bt 205. I am try to run a ftp server using IIS .
I turned off all firewalls. I forwared the ftp port in the netgear to 192.168.0.2 .I am not sure what else to do ?I do a probe on port 20 with the server running and get success. However when I try to login I cannot , my friends cannot, but if I use a proxy I can ??? Very change any help?
A Miracle!
The router fairies came and sorted my 205 out. 24 hours later, no changes made and Unreal server is singing like a canary.
Do you recommend firmware V1.8? if not where can i get V1.6?
Thanks
Marky
Hi
I'm dumb and need help. When playing games online on my xbox, there are certain people who's games i cannot join and we can only play together if we are in sum1 elses room who we can all join. I have been informed that this is a NAT type error, but you may as well be speaking swahili to me when you say that. Help, What do I do???
Marky, for v1.6 firmware, try the public archives here, but first..
STOP!!!
Didn't you just say everything was working? Doing a Firmware "upgrade" just for the sake of it, is nuts! Firmware upgrades are generally put out to fix specific bugs, things that probably most people wouldn't even realize existed. I'm not saying don't do it. Just stop first, and consider it.Anyway, so long as you backup your current configuration (commit first), and put it somewhere safe, and don't mind some more effort, I can certainly vouch for v1.6.
mark, scroll up a bit for gobs of info about using the 205 with other routers. Check the tricks page for the "just a modem" bit. But first, is your firmware old? If it's less than v1.6, upgrade, as this could be the cause of the locking.
Booner, you sure this is a Voyager 205? As far as I know, they haven't started ISP-locking those (yet!). If it is a 205, what firmware version do you have? Normally there isn't a problem, so long as you follow the guidelines on the tricks page. I'm using mine with Tiscali; works great.
Andy, run through the troubleshooter page, especially the webserver troubleshoot, it's a good generic fault-find. I blame IIs.
Mr Stew, you start by reading these lovely pages. Then setup your router. Simple. There's even scripts to do most of the hard work for you. You'll see the links while you are reading.
;o)
Marky,
Interesting comment about the router fairies. Mine began working perfectly under same mysterious circumstances sometime on Thursday and was perfect all through Friday (I even sent a note to BT about it).
Unfortunately, all was back to normal today (drops line every 5 minutes for 20 seconds).
What the heck is going on at BT ???????
Hi..just purchased a new BT 205 and I have tried to follow the instuctions on how to set it up....but my grey cells dont seem to want to work.
Now, yes I am a router newb....been using a BT 100 for the last 3 years and all this router stuff is new to me.
I have set my TCP/IP on the local area connection (as it comes up on my pc) to 192.168.1.3 subnet 255.255.255.0 is this right ?
Now when I try to use browser to http://192.168.1.1 I get nothing
When I try to telnet 192.168.1.1 I get error cant open port 23
Now what on earth am I doing wrong cause I dont understand "computers ip to 192.168.1.3 to alter routers ip to 192.168.0.1" I am totally lost.
any help greatly appreciated
(using this router/modem to try and connect to IDNet.........NOT BT or Yahoo)
al606, I always blame my own setup *last*, and this is why! I'd really like to see another BT guy drop in and tell us what's happening with their network right now. This isn't the first time that unconnected folks have found their problems simultaneously "fixed themselves".
Bandit, I'm not sure where you got the 192.168.0.1 from, but ignore it (perhaps my description of how to change the IP of the router to match an existing network subnet, and how much of a pain that is), everything on your own LAN should be 192.168.1.something, the peecee at 192.168.1.3 is good (you followed the static IP page to the letter?) and the router always lives at 192.168.1.1.
All that you should need to do to get to the router's web interface is simply plug in the ethernet cable(s) and hit http://192.168.1.1 with a web browser. No?
Double-check everything. If it's still not happening, visit the troubleshooter page and run through the troubleshooter at the foot. Usually it's something that would be blindingly obvious to the trained eye, yet completely insignificant to the eye someone unfamiliar with basic networking concepts.
If you still have difficulties, read the pages here slowly, and sort of soak yourself in networking knowledge for a bit, relax, do something else, and wait for inspiration! Feel free to post more details, error messages, etc.
;o)
Ok...thanks for the quick reply.......right...followed your static ip page to the letter....now this browser bit, to me means..start up IE and type in http://192.168.1.1 and I should get routers web interface yes...?.....cause if it is, I dont get the routers web interface.......thats the part that is bugging me, why can I not get this router interface to show its pesky self..??
Ok. i can receive any dcc's on Mirc but i cannot send anything to anyone or even dcc chat with them. I also use dameware and need all my traffic coming in from ports 135 - 139, so how do i enable these ports to work properly to allow my outgoing traffic on Irc and Dameware ?
Sorted my problem.....the trusty format and reinstall worked (dont ask me what I had on there before that blocked it)
Followed all your instructions to a tee and everything seems to be working.......thanks for some great imformation
Bandit, rogue Anti-Virus, perhaps.
Neil Henry, in these days of easy torrenteering, and FTPd-in-a-box, I'd forgotten that folk still used DCC in IRC. I gave up on it back in the days of ICS (ICS is still a reality, I know, but that's when it became unusable!, Win98, ish). I haven't really tried again since.
I'm unfamiliar with Dameware, but if you need everything coming in on those few ports, simply create a fort-forwarding range for them and that's it. All the other configuration will be in the applications, mIRC, etc. See the recipes page for something generic you can adapt.
If it doesn't work right off the bat, experiment with creating ALG's for those ports on top of the rules, and perhaps other flavours of NAT, like "pass", and "bimap"; see the PDFs. I really must sit down one day and play with those, but they do look like they might be usful in these kinds of situations.
Keep us posted.
;o)
hi peeps
just spent 2 hours on the phone to a BT nonse. anyway the upshot of it is - i am stuffed.
i have a laptop and a desktop. one is xp pro one is xp home
i have a netgear 4 port router - so i have the ethernet connection going from lapdog to netgear router to bt voyager router. fine it all works. i have the desktop via ethernet going through the netgear router so both pc's can see each other
now i want my desktop to use the same internet connection as my lapdog - however when trying to set this up i cannot
i have local area connection and 1394 connection in my network connections window.
if i click on the 1394n connection and goto proprties then the advanced tab allow other network users to connect to the internet through this connection i get an error message which reads ICS cannot be enabled because there is an IP address conflict on the network, IPS requires the host to be configured to use 192.168.0.1 Please ensure no other client on the network is configured to use this.
I trieed to mess around by amending the tcpip protocol properties to try and manually configure the ip addy and subnet and gateway stuff on the 1394 connection on both lapdog and desktop but it doesnt work - desktop cant find page when trying - I left the DNS bit as i dont understand it
can anyone help me - spent 8 hours tryong to do it so far today lol
thank you very much for your time and any help thats forthcoming
regards
Brett
I have just switched from BT broadband to Tiscali, is it as simply as just changing the username and password on the logon on page of the router ??
cheers
ben
Is there anyway to turn the Router fuctions of this modem/router off. Or do I have to select each and every router function step by step off?
Hi,
I'm trying to show my web site on the internet. I've applied the rules and ensured all the check list items are in place. However, all I get when I try to access the WAN IP address is the router Admin. I'll Firewalls removed (at least for now), stealth'd, used ipf & NAT examples and set static IP as per the example and the rest. Still no joy. Have you any idea ?
Regards
Rob
RAMIT, check the recipes page, your solution is there, and you'll kick yourself.
JimmyJimJim, the tricks page is your friend.
bergy, again, tricks page.
Brett, it all sounds very tricky. While I'm not in a particularly technical frame of mind at the moment, I might offer a few suggestions..
Firstly, you can try zipb mode (tricks page) and have your existing router grab the public IP and work from there.
I don't know why you need ICS. It's an old technology for sharing the interent without routers and switches which you have. No computer needs to be the gateway, you have at least two harware devices that can do that task.
You can alter the IP of the voyager 205 to match your existing network, though this is tricky to achieve. Basically you need to temporarily assign a puter to live on the 192.168.1.* network (say 192.168.1.3) to give the router its new IP, and then switch back again when you're done. If for any reason the voyager becomes corrupted or reset in the future, you will need to repeat that procedure.
Assuming the router is a 4-port wireless router, it goes net >> 205 >> router >> puters. If you have a switch and a single ethernet port wireless router it goes net >> 205 >> router >> switch (and wireless puters) >> puters.
It's likely doable, but not without some fiddling. And if you are unfamiliar with things like DNS, that could be very frustrating. Read all the router pages here a couple of times, google anything you don't understand or want to understand, soak yourself in the lingo and methodologies for an evening, usually that will save you days and weeks of effort, by simply better understanding what you are doing.
have fun!
;o)
Hi,
I have all three of the Web Server rules (Firewall, NAT & 8080) in place and still no joy. I've tried the following URL address http://<WANIP>:80 and it just takes me to the router admin page. Sorry if I appear a bit thick....
Regards
Rob
p.s. Do I need to add 192.168.1.3 to the IP Route table ? I've tried to copy that for 192.168.1.2 but it didn't like 127.0.0.1 as the next hop.
RAMIT, the link I gave you in my last post, if you actually read the page, you'll see tells you to USE A PROXY! Your WAN IP resolves to your gateway, so if you want to access it "from outside", you need to BE outside.
The alternative, and one I use myself, is to hack your local host names into your local hosts file, bypass DNS for those addresses. There's a sample lmhosts file in C:\Windows\system32\drivers\etc\lmhosts.sam, if you are on windows. Copy it somewhere, edit in your own host lines..and then import from your local area connexion properties >> TCP/IP >> Advanced >> WINS >> Import LMHOSTS.
You may want to hack it into the regular hosts file which lives in the same folder, or in /etc/hosts on real operating systems.
note: you may need to restart the connexion/windows for all this to take effect. But it works great.
Have fun!
;o)
Hi,
Of course you are right, I just tried it on another PC outside of my LAN and it worked fine. Many thanks for a highly informative site.
Regards
Rob
Heres a question for you all. I am running a software FTP program on a server with a static LAN IP address. I can FTP into it fine on the server on 127.0.0.1 and its IP address (192.168.1.36) and also on its IP address from any other local machine (all on DHCP). Someone remotely can FTP into me no problem on my current WAN IP address. The problem is I can't FTP into my server using the WAN connection, which I would like to do to ensure it is working. I have set the router up exactally as this brilliant web site has said.
When I used to run a proxy server on my old internet server (before I had a hardware router) I could do this no problem.
Regards, Simon
Simon, your issue is very similar to RAMIT's, above. Your computer is no longer the "gateway" to the internet, the router is. So if you FTP to that address, you get the router.
Testing FTP from outside is best done by someone else, outside. I am fortunate enough to have access to a few desktops "out there" and I can drop in and load up a real FTP client on their machine to test my own server. Unless you have a good FTP proxy to use, this is the best way. Or ask someone else to do it.
I can tell you, though, your server works just fine. I tried to login just now, anonymously, and got the big eff-off from WarFTPd.
So there you go!
;o)
I am having a problem with a Windows ME computer. It keeps being assigned an IP address of 192.168.1.2. When I try my XP computer it gets 192.168.1.3. Both computers get their address correctly from my 240 router. I did try each computer on its own.
With the help of these pages I have set up a static address of 192.168.1.3 on the Windows ME computer and it now connects to the internet okay but I have to leave the router enabled to serve DHCP addresses. When I disabled this I couldn't connect to the internet.
It is all a mystery - am I missing something?
I am hoping to use this router to connect to Tiscali for a neighbour. The next step is to take it and the computer to his house and see if I can get it logged on.
I have a D-Link DSL-302G ADSL modem with ISP firmware (Optus). It uses the Globespan Virata Viking chipset (Viking I). Here are various photos of the innards:
http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/DSL-302G/Photos/
The DSL-302G is sold as a modem but is actually a modem/router (D-Link has a tech note describing how to connect a "real" router to this modem/router). AFAICT, the DSL-302G's firmware has been crippled by removing the firewall configuration code. Eventually I plan to flash my modem using Dynalink RTA100+ firmware, assuming it uses the same Viking I chipset as the RTA100. I might even try the BT Voyager 205 code, assuming there is nothing special about "Australian" firmware, or the Australian telephone system.
One curious aspect of this modem is its Telnet greeting:
*******************
Welcome to Titanium
*******************
D-Link Corp., Software Release R2.01M.B33t4.OP(021206a/T93.3.44)
Copyright (c) 2001-2002 by D-Link Corp.
AFAIK, Titanium is the code name for Conexant's/GlobeSpan's PCI ADSL chipset.
This is the system info:
$get system
Model : DSL-302G
Name :
Domain Name :
Description : ADSL Modem
Location : D-Link Corp.
Contact : D-Link Corp.
Vendor : D-Link Corp.
LogThreshold: 1
Object-id : 1.3.6.1.4.1.200
HwVersion : 81001a
SwVersion : R2.01M.B33t4.OP(021206a/T93.3.44)
DSL Version : T93.3.44
System Time : Sat Sep 03 21:10:31 2005
Time Zone : EAST
DST : On
Services : physical datalink internet end-to-end applications
UpTime(HH:MM:SS): 01:01:36
The modem's chipset consists of:
GS8120-174-008D DSP/CPU (Viking)
GS3771-174-001H AFE/ADSL controller (Atlas)
The PCB is identified as "8DSL500G.7B1", so it looks like the DSL-500G probably uses the same chipset.
Before flashing my modem, I plan to collect and publish as much data as I can, including the various MainPage and PopOutPage menus, a detailed breakdown of the various hardware components, and pinout diagrams for the two RAM and ROM headers. There are also four unpopulated LED locations whose functions arouse my curiosity.
One aspect of the Optus code that I like is the ability to have the modem power up in disconnected mode rather than have it immediately connect to my ISP. I'd hate lose this feature.
FYI, I use this routine to automatically synchronise my modem's date and time with system date and time:
http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/DSL-302G/TimeSync.htm
The alternative is to use the modem's cumbersome System Modify Javascript form.
More D-Link DSL-302G stuff:
Internal HTML & Javascript source, including complete Help documentation
(Incomplete - lots more work to do)
Secret Admin Page Selector!
(The above code was shamelessly borrowed from corz.org. Please advise if this is unacceptable and I will take it down immediately.)
Photos of PCB and Components
Routine to Synchronise modem Date/Time with system Date/Time
Still more D-Link DSL-302G stuff (Optus ISP firmware):
Main Menu (original)
Main Menu, including secret options
The original menu contains a large number of hidden options which have been commented out. The revised menu reveals all of them.
OK, I'm having a mare trying to get the bittorrent working through the modem and my wireless router. I use asureus and so set the rule in the linksys box to use port 6881 and forward it to my laptop, which is the only computer on the network here at the moment. It has a static ip and talks to the linksys just fine.
However azureus still couldn't get functioning, gave me the usual nat error.
So, I set a rule in the modem according to the scripts on this site, which shows up in the custom ip filter page as follows:
6881 public disable Incoming Accept N/A Disable 1.protocol eq TCP 2.TCP Flg All 3.Dest Port equal to 6881
6882 public disable Incoming Accept N/A Disable 1.protocol eq UDP 2.Dest Port equal to 6881
Still doesn't work. Am I missing something?
Should I just allow everything through the modem and block it with the firewall in the linksys? Trying to figure out the best way to get the two boxes to play together but not completely cause me to tear my hair out trying to configure them. This would be so much easier if you could reliably turn it all off and just let the linksys do the job, but they wouldn't talk to each other when I had it in zipb mode.
I also set up a nat rule, to forward port 6881 to my laptop. The modem address is 192.168.1.1, the linksys is ip 192.168.2.1 and my laptop is 192.168.2.2.
NAT Rule Information
Rule ID: 6881
Rule Flavor: Virtual Server
IF Name: ALL
Protocol: ANY
Local Address From: 192.168.2.2
Local Address To: 192.168.2.2
Global Address From: 0.0.0.0
Global Address To: 0.0.0.0
Destination Port From: 6881
Destination Port To: 6881
Local Port: 0
Should the port forwarding be two the laptop's address or to the linksys, and then have the linksys do it's own port forwarding of the port onto the laptop. IE, make the port forwarding rule in the modem forward 6881 to 192.168.2.1 and then have the linksys forward to 192.168.2.2?
Hope that makes sense?
Justin, use telnet, and quote those rules, attempting to quote the web interface is just confusing. You'd be easier passing everything through to the linksys, by the way, and DO NOT use the standard torrent port, ffs, your chances of being blocked and capped are much much higher on those ports. And use one subnet, not two. And try zipb mode again after that. I'm assuming you applied the other tweaks here, in a telnet session.
Thanks for all the info Franc Zabkar, I'll have a rake through it tonight. I'm not sure exactly how simialr the unit is to a 205, "Titanium" isn't expected, but they do actually look quite similar. Do the telnet commands here work fine?
Feel free to borrow anything that's useful, though if you are putting it on the web, a credit/link is always nice.
for now..
;o)
Hi all,
I was just browsing through the router web interface and noticed that several public IP's are default coded into the routing table.
e.g. http://ripe.net/whois?form_type=simple&full_query_string=&searchtext=62.6.40.178&do_search=Search
Does anybody know the purpose of this BT server and why the default routing table would need to have this in its entry?
Cor, the Telnet commands for the D-Link DSL-302G appear to work fine. This site has more info, including a command list:
DSL-302G info from the Waikato Linux Users Group
BTW, exactly what wording would you like me to use when I credit you for any code that I "borrow"? Would a link to the corz.org home page be sufficient?
Does anyone know the difference(s) between a Dynalink RTA100 and RTA100+ modem/router? Do they both use the Viking I chipset? Does the RTA100+ differ only in that it has a USB port?
Dynalink's website states that "the RTA100 features the GlobespanVirata, Inc chipset: GS8120-174-008D (CPU+DMT), GS3771-174-001H (AFE) & 16M flash memory", ie the Viking I chipset. However, I can't find equivalent info for the RTA100+.
Dynalink RTA100 modem/router
The above suggests that the maximum size for the binary image of a flash upgrade should be 2Mbytes, ie 2097152 bytes. However, the following firmware archives contain TEimage.bin files which are a little larger than this. What gives?
Dynalink RTA100+ firmware
Dynalink RTA100 firmware
The reason I'm after this information is that I wish to regain the functionality that was lost (crippled?) in the transition between the Rev A and Rev C versions of the DSL-302G. FWIW, I notice that the firmware image file sizes for my later model modem are of the order of 1.7MB, suggesting that about 300KB of code has been cut.
DSL-302G Rev A photo
DSL-302G Rev C photo
DSL-302G Rev A firmware(USA)
DSL-302G Rev C firmware (USA)
DSL-302G firmware (AUS, NZ, Generic, OEM)
DSL-302G Main Menu (early version)
DSL-302G Ver 2 Main Menu
Is there any reason why I should refrain from flashing my modem with "US" or "UK" firmware? Does anyone understand the difference?
Hi Cor, thanks for coming back on this.
I'm not sure what telnet commands I use to pull up the in place rules, which is why I used the gui. If you can let me know then I'll post the proper set.
Agree, I should just pass everything through to the linksys, how would I delete all the current rules and just have a single rule to allow everything through?
OK, never used anything but the standard torrent port, but then I've only just moved back to the UK, my last countries isp never blocked anything. I'll look into how to do this with the linksys.
I think I only have one subnet running, but may have confused you with what I was saying. The modem is 192.168.1.1, the linksys is 192.168.2.1, the laptop is 192.168.2.2. The only way to get the linksys working with the modem was to have them on a different subnet. This I found from reading all the entries on this site.
If you can help getting the modem set to just pass everything, I think I'll be in business here.
Thanks again,
Justin.
I have a 205 router, and my IP address is dynamically assigned by my provider. I have arranged things so that the name of my machine at dyndns.org always corresponds to whatever IP adress is current for me at any time. I can access the 205 web interface from the box connected to it, by visiting http://192.168.1.1. The question: Can I access the web interface in the 205 from a machine anywhere in the Internet?
JKM, yes, it's possible, though probably not recommended. The admin selectors above these comments can take you to the page you need "(38) Management Control". Remember to set a strong password for your admin interface, and remember, that password will be travelling over the wire in plain text.
justin, it's all here! Check out the tricks page. Download the ready-made scripts, read the words, etc. As to the torrent ports, it's not so much ISP's you have to watch (though many do throttle and block those ports) but other torrenteers. Those ports are simply too well known, and many torrent sites won't allow them, full stop.
And with 65535 ports to choose from, there's no excuse for using them!
me, they aren't hard-coded in, afaik. Switch ISP's and you'll get a new set. I have.
Franc Zabkar, thanks for all the info. The differences between UK and US firmware shouldn't be significant, and could likely be changed from the CLI, anyway. I guess it's easier to have the correct VCI, etc. parameters hard-coded in to save messing around. Being in the UK, I'd plump for the UK version.
The rta100+ firmware has been flashed into a 205 (see above - Ian - 03.02.05 8:47 pm) The firmware used is available in the Public Archives here (links above these comments). By the way, bigger firmware doesn't necessarily mean better.
And yeah, a link to the front page is fine!
;o)
Hi , i have a bt voyager 205 modem/router and want to connect it to my wireless router (a Linksys "B" model) I know router to router connections are best avoided but i really cant afford to upgrade any of my equipment now , I know i have to try to set up the wireless router as an access point but i was wondering if you new of a simplier way to do this , like telling the BT voyager to act as a modem and not a router perhaps ?
I dont believe this, I must be very unlucky.... Both my routers seemed to have died ( I have two 205 ) I cannot fathom it out, I have tried on two diff comps and OS as well. Basically the minute I even open a torrent program ( not d/loading anything ) my router starts playing up. The connection dies consitently and I dont understand it. Any ideas? Surely I cannot be that unlucky and lost two routers? Like I say nothing is d/loading I have tried it with open ports, hell i even reset the router and they are both knackered. What could cause this?
Truely brilliant site. I have a voyager 205 and the information u have provided has helped in enabling all my p2ps to run effeciently. I couldn't access my browser at one point, youre site solved it. All the tricks mentioned and tweaks are very interesting to read and learning more about how my router works makes me more confident when altering things such as assigned ip address or adding NAT rules. I just can't believe there was a page dedicated to my voyager 205 router.
Thanks.
Hi
This is truly a wonderful & informative site, having just purchased the 205 I'm having difficulty setting it up to pass through the connection to the Firebox hardware firewall. I believe that it requires bridge mode and/or a no nat config. The old bt modem died recently so I replaced it with the 205. The old modem had an external ip address of 62.3.72.86 and the Firebox external ip address is 62.3.72.82 (I have spare external ip addresses as well)allowing the connection to pass through straight to the firebox, this then routes connections to the lan etc & allows my support company to access the Firebox config when necessary. Any pointers would be great.
Thanks in advance
Thanks for your comments, solomon, you pretty much nailed all the main reasons this voyager area exists.
I just can't believe there was a page dedicated to my voyager 205 router.
Love it!
Acc, D, try the tricks page (links at top), zipb mode.
Recall, it sounds like you are on a BT exchange! It does seem unlikely that they would both pack-in together. Have you tried uploading one of the ready-made scripts? So long as the max connexions and max IP sessions tweaks are in place (and limits set in the client somftware, as per recipes page, etc), everything should run smooth.
But please feel free to send your spare 205 to me, for testing!
Franc Zabkar, I moved your comments to the advanced page. Once I code up an easier way to move comments from one page to another, I'll likely move your earlier ones, too. They will slide off the page much more slowly there, and get a more inclined audience, to boot.
;o)
would it be possible for someone who knows what they are doing and has a perfect config, and that can save it somewhere so all the people who are having trouble can download it and upload it to there settings? Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't there a way you can upload settings or configs to your settings using your admin page?
Tom, do you mean something like this?
mumblemumbleifonlypeoplewouldreadthebloodypagemumblemumble
mumbleUseful Links Above these Commentsmumblemumblemumble.
Have fun!
;o)
ps.. Chris, I came across your v1.8 config uploads yesterday (I rarely check that folder!), I'll have a look at those today. Cheers!
Not only is this page great but i got an answer next day ! cheers mucker youre a gem :)
Hey, Am i just asking for trouble trying to set the 205 up to AOL? is it all all possible?! Thanks Xx
Well, technically, no, it's easy, should be, see the tricks page.
But morally, spiritually, and philosophically, yup, you are lost now!
;o)
so.. the tricks page was about as much help to me as..well, it wasn't basically. Not being particularly amazing with computers and the jargon might have something to do with it.. *sigh*
ha, what chance do i have.. i can't even type original!
This part, bob!
I don't think there's any jargon, let me just repeat the entire section right here, so we can check..
To switch ISP.. * Disconnect the phone line (maybe for a half hour while it "migrates") * Enter the new user/pass right here * Reconnect the phone line, and login! That's all there is to it.Hmm.. Not exactly mod_rewrite, know what I'm saying!
;o)
Is this a sign of overheating?
Last night I got the bittorrent thing working, and was dowloading fine. Couldn't upload though, which puzzled me. Anyway, after an hour or so, everything stopped and my connection was lost.
I rebooted the router and it came back up fine.
This doesn't happen with 'normal' everyday use, so I could only assume it was an overheating problem. Seems a bit much given that the modem I had previously (in another country) would work without a glitch for weeks at a time, but this one can't work for more than an hour or two.
Does this sound like a heat problem to you or should I be looking elsewhere?
J.
Justin, assuming you have applied the maximum IP sessions tweak, and max TCP connexions tweak, and capped your clients upload capacity and connexions, then yes, it *could* be heat. Try moving the unit somewhere cooler.
But more likely you simply haven't setup the router and torrent client1.
Full details here and here.
for now..
;o)
Good to see this site is still up.
You might remember about a year ago I fried my router trying to do a firmware upgrade. BT at least supplied a free replacement, and never asked for the old one back.
I see there's some correspondence on how to resurrect a dead router, but I couldn't find out whther there was any definite outcome to all this.
Is there a way to do it?
What do I need to do?
BTW, one tech tip: If you use an SNTP time server, disable daylight saving, else the machine's clock will be one hour out!
Graham, welcome back!
I had a chuckle when I read your comment, but it's valid; I'm reliably informed that the average lifespan of an internet page is 100 days
Be assured, when you return in 2070, I'll still be here!
As for the firmware flashing fun, I moved that to a page of its own. Your timing is excellent; I only yesterday discovered and posted my own 205 flashing notes (which I think I subconsciously hid due to embarassment, but a few weeks later don't care much). I was trying to ressurect a 205. I blew it up. nuff said.
There's been a lot of new info since then, though, and as soon as I manage to procure another 205, I'll be diving back into the fray myself.
See you there!
;o)
hi, great site.
i've input all the telnet commands to try and get Azureus working correctly. However, when it's open my browser immediately loses its connection ?
Hey guys,
Before I ask my question, I want to congratulate the maker of this site as it has been a lifesaver over the past few weeks. Cheers dude.
My problem is this. When I try to sign in on the quickstart page of the config manager it doesn't connect. If you are with BT the username and password should be the same as your e-mail. Right? Thing is, it don't want to connect when I put it in. It just comes up saying 'username and password modified successfully' but it wont connect. is it possible to connect to the net without needing this username and password? Unsure. And if not, how do you change it? Cheers guys!
Redstaar, thanks. As for the user/pass, nope, it's..
user: voyager205.user@btbroadband.com
pass:<empty>
Unplug the phone, reboot the router, enter username/(no)pass and plug in the phone line again. Should work fine.
baracuda, check out the troubleshooting page.
for now..
;o)
Hi,
I was using virgin broadband thro a usb modem. wanted a wireless network and brought the netgear WGR614 wireless router and found the be short of a ethernet modem so brough the voyager 205. Unable to login to virgin broadband. The diagnostics show good adsl line connection but the quick start page doesnt seem to progress inspite of the right password and login for the broadband.
Please advice.
thanks
I am trying to host my own webserver (through IIS on XP Pro). I have set up the voyager 205 to a DDNS host name. The DDNS host name is assigned the right IP address however, when trying to open through a webbrowser, nothing happens and after a while i get an 'not responding' error.
From the voyager's ethernet port, I go to a 'dell wireless 2350 Broadband router' with teh voyager conencted to the WAN port. All my Lan p.c.s conenct to the dell router. I'm not sure whether it's the voyager that isn't doing the port forwarding or whether it's the dell router. How can I tell? Should I commit the horrible sin of connecting another computer to the USB connection and try and access the Dell router from there?
Posted earlier this mornint but I seem to have been forgotten behind a host of other questions.
I am trying to host my own webserver (through IIS on XP Pro). I have set up the voyager 205 to a DDNS host name. The DDNS host name is assigned the right IP address however, when trying to open through a webbrowser, nothing happens and after a while i get an 'not responding' error.
From the voyager's ethernet port, I go to a 'dell wireless 2350 Broadband router' with teh voyager conencted to the WAN port. All my Lan p.c.s conenct to the dell router. I'm not sure whether it's the voyager that isn't doing the port forwarding or whether it's the dell router. How can I tell? Should I commit the horrible sin of connecting another computer to the USB connection and try and access the Dell router from there?
Just thought that this may be something to think about - I have had several people who have been told by BT that the 205 is faulty and needs to be replaced, because the DSL light is not lit. On all of these the LED has blown, and during the course of the diags BT has asked the user to reset the config to factory defaults, the router then does not login (no login details), and therefore BT say that the router is faulty and needs to be replaced. Just goes to prove dont always belive all that you are told.
hi there great site.......i have a question, i am tryhing to set my xbox 360 direct to the net but it says my dns failed, but my normal xbox is fine, so how can i get my 360 to accept the modem? cheers chefytype
Tutorial much appreciated, really. But now i have even more questions:
1. Is there some way to save the configuration of the router? Everytime i shut down the router it goes back to its factory default - is there some way to prevent it?
2. I set up myself a ftp server, and a dyndns account which forwards to it (as it's not my computer i thought about not meddling with setting up a static ip) + your advices about forwarding from router to server. There's no problem with people getting to a server, but myself (on the computer the server is set up) i can't see it (if i type ftp://mydnsname i'll connect with my router through ftp). Is there some way to test the server (connect from the computer it's set on, but not through ftp://192.168.1.3, but through ftp://mydnsname), if it's set on 21 port?
3. 192.168.1.1 is the address of my routers administration - locally. Is there some way to do it through internet? Forwarding the router's administration :)
4. I would like to set up a remote control on the computer - as i understand i must create forwarding routines on the ports the remote control uses. Or is there an easier way? :)
Thank you very much
i am blocked from using msn by a firewall using a HTTP proxy server 81000364
how do i get rid of it
norton firewall is off
i have a dedicated phone line and i and using bt broadband.
please reply to my e mail catbell2001@yahoo.co.uk
Anyone know where I can get in contact with the original manufacturers of these routers? I want to buy a shed load of broadband routers designed to my specifications.
Hey Cor, back again, yes me with the xbox.
Now the proud owner of a 360, running a media centre PC, works great, streaming all sorts.
I connected the 360 via the ethernet, leaving the pc via usb...I know, dont shout at me! It all works great except i cant get the nat to be anything other than strict for the 360, regardless of what i do.
Any ideas, bar getting a switch, and as it aint pay day for a while......
Paul
Had another try at the zipb mode last night. The modem seems to work and my linksys router shows that it has been given an ip address so the modem is logging in and getting that which is good. Problem is, nothing goes further than that.
I end up with an ip address assigned to the linksys router in the range
84.9.90.xx with subnet mask 255.0.0.0 and gateway 83.146.18.xx which is assigned by the 205 modem from the isp
The linksys then has it's own ip internally of 192.168.2.1 and farms out dhcp addresses of that range to the laptop.
Can't get the laptop to see any internet connection. No idea why. Guess I'm going to have to leave the zipb mode for now, which is a shame as it's really what I need. Any other suggestions I might try? cheers.
More traffic problems.
After the zipb episode, I reset the router to standard, reapplied all the essential tweaks suggested on this site and set up a webcam chat with my wife. After 5-10 mins the connection will die, the modem just locks up. Same sort of thing that happens when I try using bittorrent. Seems to be a traffic type of error, and I can't even ping the modem when it happens.
with the connexions tweak and the keep alive done, I'm at a bit of a loss as to why this would be happening. I took the top off the modem so that it would stay cool and that made no difference.
What might you suggest I try next. If you need me to give any details of the router setup, please let me know how to get that data from the telnet window, entering data is relatively easy, figuring out how to view the data isn't as simple from what I've tried to do.
Thanks,
Justin.
Just to let you know (if you don't already), that in the recipe for Gnutella, you have the nat and firewall rules arse about face! :O)
Hi !
I didn't find solution to solve my problem !
My ISP block port 80 to WAN access.
I wanna administrate my modem from Wan using another port.
How can I change port of modem web server or redirect port 8000 for example to port 80 both in modem ?
Thank's
Hi just wondered- when i want to get my menu up, i type in 192.168.1.2, so when typing in the rules, should i change that ip that says 192.168.1.3 to my one?
Ahh, been a bit snowed-under these last few days, how's tricks, all?
wpipe, the trick is to disconnect the phone line while you alter the details. Check the tricks page.
Alex, firstly IIS is a piece of Shite, consider Apache. Check the recipes page for how to browse your own dynamic domain, and the tricks page for details of "zipb mode", which you might like to try. As a rule, the sticker is best left over the USB.
Thanks Mule. Personally, I take everything I'm told with a pinch of salt, and I find it hard to believe that broken LEDs were the problem - becasue I know from years of playing around with them that they are hardy wee things - but perhaps these ones are of low quality, or there is some voltage regulation trouble, dunno. It's a good call anyway, becasue an LED only costs pennies to replace.
I wonder where BT puts all their duff routers? hmmm.
xbox 360 guys, I wouldn't even attempt this without a switch. Ten bucks! Just do it! It's an investment.
eithedog, to truly appreciate the tutorials, try reading them! ALL your questions are answered within. By the way, port-forwarding IS the easy way!
Justin, for your current issues, remember, you need to cap the upload capacity of your applcations to ensure it doesn't go above 80% of your total capacity, which is probably around 30kb/s. Basically, ensure yout LAN's TOTAL upload never goes above 25kb/s.
In telnet, do ? and see the main article (above) for more details of how to get information readouts from your router. The web interface is handy for this too (use those admin selectors above these comments), so you can get readouts and do entries at the same time without them interfering (visually) with each other.
I definitely recommend working from one of the "ready-made" scripts wherever possible.
Paingiver, if I had known, I would have fixed it already!!!
Is it really back-to-front?
/me checks..
Hmm. the rules look fine.
/me checks again..
Ahh! nat rules are titled "firewall", and vice versa.
kretcheu, yeah, it's doable. I'd just have to look up the PDF to remember exactly how. You can do that. Or try modify nbsize ? in a telnet session for more info. (note: if not using the default ports, you can only use ports in the 61000-62000 range for the built-in servers)
Frank, no, the 192.168.1.3 is YOUR PEECEE. Anyway, you should be using 192.168.1.1 to access the web interface. 192.168.1.2 is for USB, and no one recommends using USB on this device.
for now..
;o)
not sure if anyone can help - i have a 205 on bt broadband which i cannot seem to get to connect to my workplace vpn. QUite annoying. Phoned BT, no interest, phoned Voyager who got me to add NAT DMZ for my computer to open up ports they said but this has no impact - i am able to connect to the VPN with password etc. but cannot get past 'map network drive' which leads me to think 205 is blocking me as i had no probs with old alcatel 330 modem on the same site - can anyone help? (and if so can they keep it simlpe 'cos i'm an idiot on technology)
thanks
graeme
Hi,
Firstly great site, its one on the only sites i find easy to follow on these types of subjects.
I recently bought pro evoulution soccer 5 for the PS2 and when i go to click network play, it says i need to do unblock the port 5730, wat code should I write to do it through telnet, neone help,
thanks alot
Troy
hi i currently have the ethernet port connected to the 360 for xbox live, however whatever i do, the NAT codes are always strict and thus stops me from joining certain servers ect. i really dont know what to do . cheers
hi again
thanks for the help using the bt voyage 205 router under linux
(BT said to me 'none of our products are supported by linux'
well with the help of you and your site im up and running
thanks
the problem im having now is that i have recentlly gone over to another ISP
and they will only allow me 1 static ip address and just a modem
and i deally i'd like to use my computer and my xbox online at the same time
i was wondering is it possible to use my bt voyager 205 router as just a router to route my modem to my pc and xbox using the bt voyager 205 router
any help would be greatly accepted
thanks in advanced
Redeye Jedi
Hello - excuse me as a newbie - I have been given 2 205's one of which is connected now to my non-bt isp as we speak (via the ethernet port!).
I would like to use the 205 as a ethernet modem so that I can stick a wireless router behind it.
As soon as I try to change the IP address of the router (to 10.0.0.2) I am unable to access it.The router gateway us 192.168.1.1.
Would anyone be kind enough to tell me how to reconfigure the 205 as a ethernet modem please - I hate to see these things wasted.
Many thanks..........
I bought on ebay BT Voyager 205 modem, but it came with no sw. I use Tiscali broadband. Is a chance to download drivers from somewhere ?? Thank you very mucch, it was quite expensive for me.. Ludek
hi there
ok here's the thing...
i'm currently on Plus.net and apparently they only support PPPoA
i am using Voyager 205 modem that they provided and attempted to connect it to my Linksys wireless router. first attempt, i connected the router to the WAN port and it didn't work... boo hoo.
then i figured out that if i disabled DCPH for both the linksys and voyager 205, then connect the voyager to one of the lan ports instead of the WAN port, it will work. woopie doo.
now here's my problem.
i personally find the voyager interface very hard to handle when it comes to portforwarding and all that crap and i really hope that i can control it thru my linksys rather than the voyager one.
apparently my linksys modem don't support PPPoA but only PPPoE.
is there anyway i can turn the voyager into just a modem using the zipb thingy, connect it to my linksys and control portforwarding from there?
another reason y i want to use do the zipb thingy is cuz everytime i bittorrent, my comp gets thrown off the network and i heard zipb can get rid of the max ip limit? is that true?
desparately in need of help here
any recommendations are welcomed
THANKSSSSSS!!!
Great site cor.
Just got a voyager 205 and loving it.
I have set it up and have a written some scripts to quickly configure it.
One thing I have not had any luck with is zipb, I've looked at your guide and tried your scripts but when I plug in into my netgear wireless router on the WAN port it sends the ip to the router but the internet doesn't work.
I've tried logging into the modem and pinging google.com but no response.
I think this is a similar issue to Justin.
I noticed that the config in the PDFs are slightly different for zipb, maybe I need to follow the instructions in the Viking manual?
so does anyone know who makes these viking routers?
I;ve tried searching the web for Viking and routers but come with all kinds of useless rubbish. Can anyone point me to the manufacturers webpage?
me: The chipset is called Viking, from GlobespanVirata, now part of Conexant I believe. The routers are probably made by Askey of Taiwan. Follow the Dynalink (Aus/NZ) link at the top of the cor's Advanced page for more info. Dynalink are closely connected to Askey and market the RTA100(+) which is possibly a 205 clone.
Jamie: zipb seems a lost cause on the 205 and other Viking clones - see my earlier comments in response to Justin's zipb failures.
Hi,
Re: BT voyager 2091
I,ve tried the C1 javascipt hack to be able to change ones ISP but this failed along with the other unlock trick using the check number, with no luck. My firmware version is 2.21.05.08m_A2pB018c1.d16d
My real need at the moment, is to just connect from another BT line other than the ISP username was bought for, Can you help.
Or if it is possible to set up a Netgear DG834G to connect to the BT ISP over another BT line than the ISP was bought for.
I never realised BT inpose these restictions, other wise I would not have chosed BT.
I am just wanting to test a setup before installing it on the original BT line.
BT have not actualy told me it is impossible but they cant tell me how to get it working it seems.
Thanks in antisipation. Greg
Make my day: Do you mean connect from another BT telephone line to your chosen ISP? ADSL broadband doesn't work that way. Each telephone line which is ADSL enabled has a semi-permanent ADSL connection to your chosen ISP. Another telephone line, even if ADSL enabled, is unlikely to be connected to your ISP, and even if it was, I suspect there may be some line id checking going on at the ISP so that all connections to your broadband account are from your nominated telephone line.
If your 2091 is locked to BT, you will be able to use/test it on any line for which BT Broadband is the chosen ISP, but you will need to change the username and password on the Advanced configuration screen to the appropriate values for that line's broadband account.
Or have I misunderstood what you are asking?
BTW, you are likely to get more (and more useful) answers if you post questions about Voyager non-205 routers on the non-205 page here.
May I try again as my query appears to have been overlooked by those that followed - I notice that another subsequent query similar to mine = that is I can't find anywhere on this v interesting site as how to configure a 205 in front of a wireless router - ie acting as a ADSL modem. Here is my original query - I would appreciate the help of the 205 experts....
Hello - excuse me as a newbie - I have been given 2 205's one of which is connected now to my non-bt isp as we speak (via the ethernet port!).
I would like to use the 205 as a ethernet modem so that I can stick a wireless router behind it.
As soon as I try to change the IP address of the router (to 10.0.0.2) I am unable to access it.The router gateway us 192.168.1.1.
Would anyone be kind enough to tell me how to reconfigure the 205 as a ethernet modem please - I hate to see these things wasted.
Many thanks..........
I am also having the pro evo problem, same as troy, anyone able to help me write a thingy so i can telnet it to unblock udp port 5730- thx
robmar: For details of how to get the 205 to work with a modemless switch/router, check out my post (vof - 31.01.06 10:38 pm) on an earlier page. It does not use zipb mode - I don't think zipb works into a switch/router though it may do directly into a PC (I've not tried). The symptoms you are seeing are similar to those seen by me and others who've tried.
Thanks VOF - works like a charm - I thought I'd have to turn off the DHCP but even this wasn't necessary - really a doddle - - just a last comment I wasn't able to change the IP address of the 205, so had to change the address of the router instead (works just as well). Is there a quick fix for unlocking the IP address of the 205 -as every time I tried to save it reverted back to 192.168.1.1
Again many thanks for your expert advice
Rob
i wonderd if you can help me i want to turn of stealth mode on my voyager 205 and if possible is there anyway to turn my voyager 205 into just a modem and not a router/modem any help would be gratefull
Has anyone got a working hack for voyager 2091 router?? the firmware is 2.21.05.08m_A2pB018c1.d16d
i have tried the ones above, but don`t work on my router..
Also my version does not have adisconnect button on the quickstart page 192.168.1.1
Some one please help!!!!!!!!!! i hate bt, i`m in this position because excess usage of only 360gig in december, either pay 300 quid or find new isp and you don`t have to pay.. Ba++++++s!! didn`t say the router was locked
Has anyone got a working hack for voyager 2091 router?? the firmware is 2.21.05.08m_A2pB018c1.d16d
i have tried the ones above, but don`t work on my router..
Also my version does not have adisconnect button on the quickstart page 192.168.1.1
Some one please help!!!!!!!!!! i hate bt, i`m in this position because excess usage of only 360gig in december, either pay 300 quid or find new isp and you don`t have to pay.. Ba++++++s!! didn`t say the router was locked
.........
I'm really at my wits end with this BT router. I go through every single page here, every command, every last detail, I even switched from USB to ethernet and bought a switch. Now even after entering all of these commands, and being well under 512 connections, i still get disconnected while downloading and browsing the internet. It's doing my head in. I have connected via FTP and tried uploading one of your ready made scripts, yet it doesn't work. It will always revert back to the default commands when the box restarts, same when i try uploading via the web interface. I'm totally clueless as to what to do to get this thing working. Is there a trick to replacing the default config.cfg file with your ready made one? Please help before i lose all my hair, cheers.
Tony Allen - If you look at VOF's post 2 above yours I think you'll find the answer to yr question..................
Hi i have problem that when i try to use telnet it will let me type admin for ligin but wont let me type anything for the password any help would be much appriciated
robmar: I don't have a 205
whytey: How do you know it won't let you type anything? Are you sure that the problem is not that what you type is NOT being displayed...?! Have you tried typing the password followed by Return? What happens?
thank you for all your advice. I have a new BT Hub Mgr (don't know OEM name) but was able to configure my PC with a static ID and avoid getting a lowid on emule - tar-ahh!
VOF - 205 working as a modem in front of a router - Thanks again for that - I agree with your sentiment - it was just that it appears impossible, with my lack of intimate knowledge of the 205, to change any settings apart from the user name and password. For example I tried to also change the inbuilt clock time, but again it reverts on save. Oh well if it works, leave well alone!
thanks again
Rob
robmar: the clock will only stay right if you configure - probably via CLI - the 205 to use an SNTP time server. BTW, the English version of the program downloadable from this page - produced for the Netgear DM602, a 205 clone - is a very useful program. It provides a windowed GUI on top of the native CLI and should work with the 205. While it only provides access to a limited set of functions, it does allow you to easily set up a SNTP time server so that your DM602/205 clock is always correct.
Yikes!
I'm back in the land of the living, anyway, but still playing catch-up. I'll try and get back later today to mop up any unanswered questions. Probably.
;o)
Hello ,
I have been working for sometime to set-up my wireless broadband router "Linsys WRT54G" , but as always the beast fails to connect to the Internet, via the "Voyager 205".
In the current mode, I have a wireless network - minus the Internet access. Do you have any idea, or can point me to some artice which would help me to set ot up correctly ?
Thank you for this fine contribtion on the internet.
Kind regards
Al:
Al Werner: For details of how to get the 205 to work with a modemless switch/router such as your Linksys WRT54G, check out my post (vof - 31.01.06 10:38 pm) on an earlier page. robmar (and others) above used it successfully.
What does it mean when your 205 sudden lights up all 5 light and you loss connection to the internet? Then you have to power it off then on to get your connection back. I suspect a knackered modem but was wondering if it's trying to tell me something.
Cheers,
Mav
Dear sir, i want to replace my voyager box to a Netgear DG834 and need to find out my ISP username, ISP password, IP addresses, security keys from within the voyager.... HELP PLEASE
Cheers
whit a man cor...i cannae leave this page alone as it is proving invaluable wi all the ready made commands and whit knows so here`s a question fur ye...should i use a switch wi a WAN port on it or will a LAN switch do.i`ve went through previous posts tae yerself and i can`t see that anyone has asked this before,so if i`ve missed it i`m sorry tae seem tae waste yer time,any help would be gratefully recieved and thanx for time and effort spent tae make dummies lives easier like maself...p.s.as i am studying for my a+ certification this sight has given me a wealth of information and experience in things like telnet etc. which up until now i had only read and studied.and to think i found the site by mistake...i need tae be makin mair mistakes like this.(lol)greets fae strathclyde.:)
Cor
Im back from near death and on my systems again didnt think i would pull through after being fried on a 400Kv oil fill stop joint while testing.
The so called top I'tie Joiner/supervisor picked up the wrong test set and we
both went BANG!
Well on the mend now and a lot of catching up to do.
By the way like the new look for site m8.
Talk soon.Regards Joker
is there anyway of getting round BTs gateway industrial service so i can access sites that they have blocked
mav:
This happens a lot to some 205's and ive pulled apart and hack't and moded a killed about 8 now, And over heating i found to be the main reason for that little p-ss off.
I found that about 2 out of 5 would do this quite a lot
and others hardly ever? i think it was down to how well they were assembled and how well the heat shunt "Crap near none anyway" contacted the board.
as cor will tell you anyway "COOL IT" there is a pic'file and doc's in cor's archives if i remember rightly.
The 205 was i think designed very poorly as fare as cooling goes and causes more problems than most people realise.
They run very hot!
I have even mod'ed one 205 with a
cpu cool master fan
As well as re housing the board in a nice big brushed ali' case with loads of vents
also a copper wing mobo chip set cooler mod'ed to fit snug on voyagers I.C.'s and it never ever cuts out or gets sluggish through over heating. It makes a BIG difference
There isn't a lot of room in the orig'205 case so you have to be careful were you put heat shunt/cooling fins" As you will see from archive file,
But well worth it if you are a heavy user then over heating will get ya sooner or later
Cor: Do you still live here m8?
Regards Joker:
Andy:
LOOK HERE
I'm really at my wits end with this BT router. I go through every single page here, every command, every last detail, I even switched from USB to ethernet and bought a switch. Now even after entering all of these commands, and being well under 512 connections, i still get disconnected while downloading and browsing the internet. It's doing my head in. I have connected via FTP and tried uploading one of your ready made scripts, yet it doesn't work. It will always revert back to the default commands when the box restarts, same when i try uploading via the web interface. I'm totally clueless as to what to do to get this thing working. Is there a trick to replacing the default config.cfg file with your ready made one? Please help before i lose all my hair, cheers.
HELP FOR YOU:
when you use a pre-cfg from archive do this and it wil work
first open cfg file with note.pad and look at the first few lins!
you need to cange the password to the one you use to login to telnet and admin page.
you also need to delete some of corz entrys. so keep the file open.
NOW LOOK AT THE PRE-cfg I USED FROM CORZ ARCHIVES THE STELTH Router setup. this is a copy of mine that work fine
after changes
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create user name admin passwd YOUR root
nbsize maxipsess 511 size maxvc 8 max1483vc 8 maxppe 8
modify ppp global pppsesstimer 9999 keepalive enable
modify system contact "http://prv-joker.org.uk" model "Viking Voyager 205" location "UK" vendor "GlobespanVirata Inc.,100 Schulz Drive, Red Bank,NJ 07701,U.S.A" logthresh 1 systime "Mar 04 23:53:14 2006" dst on timezone "GMT" name "fuckers"dname"jokers"magicnum16
modify bridge mode wan2wan disable
modify pfraw global enable
create pfraw rule entry ruleid 15 ifname private dir in act deny
create pfraw rule entry ruleid 16 ifname private act deny
create pfraw rule entry ruleid 17 ifname private dir in act deny
create pfraw rule entry ruleid 18 ifname private act deny
create pfraw rule entry ruleid 19 ifname private dir in act deny
create pfraw rule entry ruleid 20 ifname private act deny
create pfraw rule entry ruleid 21 ifname private dir in act deny
create pfraw rule entry ruleid 22 ifname private act deny
create pfraw rule entry ruleid 23 ifname private dir in act deny
create pfraw rule entry ruleid 24 ifname private act deny
create pfraw rule entry ruleid 25 ifname private dir in act deny
create pfraw rule entry ruleid 26 ifname private act deny
create pfraw rule entry ruleid 27 ifname private dir in act deny
create pfraw rule entry ruleid 28 ifname private act deny
create pfraw rule entry ruleid 29 ifname private dir in act deny
create pfraw rule entry ruleid 30 ifname private act deny
create pfraw rule entry ruleid 31 ifname private dir in act deny
create pfraw rule entry ruleid 32 ifname private act deny
create pfraw rule entry ruleid 33 ifname private dir in act deny
create pfraw rule entry ruleid 34 ifname private act deny
create pfraw rule entry ruleid 35 ifname private dir in act callmgmt
create pfraw rule entry ruleid 36 ifname dmz dir in act callmgmt create pfraw rule entry ruleid 37 dir in act callmgmt
create pfraw subrule entry ruleid 15 subruleid 1 mask 0xFFFF offset 12 enable cmpt range 0x8863 0x8864
create pfraw subrule entry ruleid 16 subruleid 1 mask 0xFFFF offset 12 enable cmpt range 0x8863 0x8864
create pfraw subrule entry ruleid 17 subruleid 1 mask 0xFFFFFFFF start iph offset 16 enable cmpt range 0xE0000000 0xEFFFFFFF
create pfraw subrule entry ruleid 18 subruleid 1 mask 0xFFFFFFFF start iph offset 16 enable cmpt range 0xE0000000 0xEFFFFFFF
create pfraw subrule entry ruleid 19 subruleid 1 mask 0xFFFF offset 12 enable cmpt eq 0x8035
create pfraw subrule entry ruleid 20 subruleid 1 mask 0xFFFF offset 12 enable cmpt eq 0x8035
create pfraw subrule entry ruleid 21 subruleid 1 mask 0xFFFF offset 12 enable cmpt eq 0x809B
create pfraw subrule entry ruleid 22 subruleid 1 mask 0xFFFF offset 12 enable cmpt eq 0x809B
create pfraw subrule entry ruleid 23 subruleid 1 mask 0xFFFF offset 12 enable cmpt lteq 0x05DC
create pfraw subrule entry ruleid 23 subruleid 2 mask 0xFFFF offset 14 enable cmpt eq 0xF0F0
create pfraw subrule entry ruleid 24 subruleid 1 mask 0xFFFF offset 12 enable cmpt lteq 0x05DC
create pfraw subrule entry ruleid 24 subruleid 2 mask 0xFFFF offset 14 enable cmpt eq 0xF0F0
create pfraw subrule entry ruleid 25 subruleid 1 mask 0xFFFF offset 12 enable cmpt range 0x8137 0x8138
create pfraw subrule entry ruleid 26 subruleid 1 mask 0xFFFF offset 12 enable cmpt range 0x8137 0x8138
create pfraw subrule entry ruleid 27 subruleid 1 mask 0xFFFFFFFFFFFF offset 0 enable cmpt eq 0x0180C2000000
create pfraw subrule entry ruleid 28 subruleid 1 mask 0xFFFFFFFFFFFF offset 0 enable cmpt eq 0x0180C2000000
create pfraw subrule entry ruleid 29 subruleid 1 mask 0xFFFF offset 12 enable cmpt eq 0x0806
create pfraw subrule entry ruleid 30 subruleid 1 mask 0xFFFF offset 12 enable cmpt eq 0x0806
create pfraw subrule entry ruleid 31 subruleid 1 mask 0xFFFF offset 0 enable cmpt eq 0x3333
create pfraw subrule entry ruleid 32 subruleid 1 mask 0xFFFF offset 0 enable cmpt eq 0x3333
create pfraw subrule entry ruleid 33 subruleid 1 mask 0xFFFF offset 12 enable cmpt eq 0x8100
create pfraw subrule entry ruleid 34 subruleid 1 mask 0xFFFF offset 12 enable cmpt eq 0x8100
create pfraw subrule entry ruleid 35 subruleid 1 mask 0xFFFF offset 12 enable cmpt range 0x8863 0x8864
create pfraw subrule entry ruleid 36 subruleid 1 mask 0xFFFF offset 12 enable cmpt range 0x8863 0x8864
create pfraw subrule entry ruleid 37 subruleid 1 mask 0xFF offset 15 enable cmpt eq 0xA7
modify fwl global blistprotect enable attackprotect enable dosprotect enable
create ipf rule entry ruleid 5 dir out act accept storestate enable seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 500000 ifname public dir in log enable seclevel high medium low
modify ipf global seclevel high pubdefact accept dmzdefact accept
create dhcp server pool start-ip 192.168.1.50 poolid 0 end-ip 192.168.1.99 mask 255.255.255.0 dname home gwy 192.168.1.1
modify snmp trap disable
create ethernet intf ifname eth-0 ip 192.168.1.1 mask 255.255.255.0
create sntp servaddr dname Time.apple.com
create sntp servaddr dname ntp0.strath.ac.uk
create sntp servaddr dname Time.euro.apple.com
create sntp servaddr dname www.time.gov
create sntp servaddr dname www.worldtimeserver.com
modify sntp cfg enable
modify ip cfg ttl 64
modify dsl config multi bitswap enable
create atm port enable ifname atm-0 maxvc 8 oamsrc 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
create ppp security ifname default
create ppp security ifname ppp-0 chap login voyager205.user@btbroadband.com
create atm trfdesc trfindex 0
create atm vc intf ifname aal5-0 lowif atm-0 vpi 0 vci 38 a5maxproto 1 vcmux
create ppp intf ifname ppp-0 startondata mru 1500 lowif aal5-0 droute true ppoa outside usedns true
odify nat global tcpidletimeout 3600 tcpclosewait 30 tcptimeout 30 udptimeout 10 enable
create nat rule entry ruleid 4294967295 napt
create nat rule entry ruleid 100000 napt
create alg port portno 21 prot num 6 algtype ftp
create alg port portno 1701 prot num 17 algtype l2tp
create alg port portno 1723 prot num 6 algtype pptp
create alg port portno 554 prot num 6 algtype rtsp
create alg port portno 7070 prot num 6 algtype ra
create alg port portno 7648 prot num 6 algtype cuseeme
create alg port portno 1719 prot num 17 algtype h323_ras
create alg port portno 1720 prot num 6 algtype h323_q931
create alg port portno 6661 prot num 6 algtype mirc
create alg port portno 6662 prot num 6 algtype mirc
create alg port portno 6663 prot num 6 algtype mirc
create alg port portno 6664 prot num 6 algtype mirc
create alg port portno 6665 prot num 6 algtype mirc
create alg port portno 6666 prot num 6 algtype mirc
create alg port portno 6667 prot num 6 algtype mirc
create alg port portno 6668 prot num 6 algtype mirc
create alg port portno 6669 prot num 6 algtype mirc
create alg port portno 7000 prot num 6 algtype mirc
create alg port portno 161 prot num 17 algtype snmp
create alg port portno 407 prot num 17 algtype timbuktu
create alg port portno 6301 prot num 17 algtype sgicompcore
create alg port portno 1863 prot num 6 upnpaware true algtype msnmsgr
create alg port portno 389 prot num 6 algtype ldap
create alg port portno 1002 prot num 6 algtype ldap
create alg port portno 500 prot num 17 algtype ike
create alg port portno 0 prot num 50 algtype esp
create alg port portno 1503 prot num 6 upnpaware true algtype t120
create alg port portno 5060 upnpaware true algtype sip
create alg port portno 5190 prot num 6 algtype icq
create bridge port intf ifname eth-0
modify stp port info ifname eth-0 priority 0x80 pcost 100
create igmp intf ifname ppp-0 host
create dns servaddr priority 0 194.73.73.94
create dns servaddr priority 1 212.74.112.66
modify autodetect cfg mode router
modify mctl access httpwanaccess disable telnetwanaccess disable ftpwanaccess disable tftpwanaccess disable snmpwanaccess disable
modify ilmi access protocol ifname atm-0 vpi 0 vci 38 proto any
END
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now comper it to the new download stelth pre-cfg
And change and delete lines as i did it work with all of them
Cor: Im not shure why but if you dont remove all the change system name http:corz stuff all the way to you admin page it wont work?
And when router resets after upload nothing changes BUT when you remove the corz change name ect.
it work great! have no clue why same on f/ware 1.6 and 8??
bet you can see why but i cant m8
hello again cor,jist a wee quick note tae let ye ken i finally figured out my switch,which is a lan switch.everyhin workin magic.thanks so much for the sight i could`nae huv managed without ye...cheers m8
Joker!!! dude! it's grrrrrrrr8 to hear from you!
Yes! I live! But sometimes I can't face the public, only code and poetry makes sense.
Oh! Before I go any further, I wanted to thank you for the hidden gift you sent in the cpu box
Hospital? Bloody hell! I figured you were off to some foreign place making heaps of dosh, or something, but zapped? Yikes! That's nasty. I still get the heebie-jeebies whenever I look at one of those red sucker things in the back of a CRT, ever since I pulled one of them out as a kid. Not quite in the same league, I know, still, I respect elec-trickery in all forms!
As for the "corz" in the 205 configs, what?!? Fer real?
Where was I? Oh yeah..
graeme, try loading this page with *all* comments. All I know about VPN is there, not a lot. When I get a chance, I'll maybe add a VPN section to the tricks page, exaplaining this. It does work, and there's data there in the comments. If someone wants to compile a "VPN tut" from them, it would be very much appreciated!
whytey, good one!
Mav, if you have old (<v1.6) firmware, VoIP can cause this. Upgrade it. You can get a v1.6 firmware in the archives here.
andy s, ahh, good to hear a familiar accent!
alison, what's "BTs gateway industrial"? Sounds like there would be lots of pipes there, wherever it is.
ho! I'm done! that wasn't so bad!
;o)
ps..
Any question that I didn't answer are either answered by someone else (thanks dudes!), or in the lovingly crafted main articles which I recommend you read, twice, or else in the comments somewhere already. I know it's a chore to load them all, but if it's any consolation, I do plan to write a "comment search" facility, perhaps returning relevant "chunks" of comments, dunno when, which should make the process somewhat easier.
Until then, brace yourself and hit the "show all comments" link! In Firefox (and other browsers) you can do something called "type-to-find" which enables you to just start typing any word and have the browser jump to that part of the page. This makes searching wads of text, like these comments are, rather easy.
By default, Firefox's type-to-find only jumps to links, which seems silly to me, but you can change that by adding this to your user.js file..
// main on/off switch user_pref("accessibility.typeaheadfind", true); // set to true Find As You Type // if set to false (the default), you must hit / (find text) or ' (find links) first user_pref("accessibility.typeaheadfind.autostart", true); // set this to true to only search for links. how crazy is that? user_pref("accessibility.typeaheadfind.linksonly", false);The user.js file generally lives inside Firefox profile directory, and if it doesn't exist, simply create it!pps.. anyone I genuinely missed, post again, we'll get there.
ppps.. the other day I coded a "post-dumper" which I created in response to my anguished screams on my browser crashing right in the middle of the last time I attempted to catch-up here. even if you preview something, or just play with the tag-tools, or whatever, it gets dumped to a file, and can be recovered.
Within only a few hours of being uploaded, two things became immediately apparent..
1. I get hit with spam-bots to the tune of about 1.2MB of posted spam per day!
2. some of you guys preview your comments *a lot*. I mean, more than I do! and that really is saying something. You know who you are, and to you guys especially, the thoughtful posters who are not happy until that post is *just so*, I pay my utmost respect! You make my day, and are a part of my site in fundamental ways. Thank you!
Hello ;o)
Need some big help mate Azzie has just started playing up telling
me that my DHT is firewalled. yet I have been using the same
port as always can see all the files all the seeds just not downloading
a kb. dont know what has happened have changed nothing port probes all
perfect.
Any views please
Best
barney
Many thanks to Joker and Cor for the advice. will deffo try it all out and see what happens. Keep up the good work guys.
Mav
Hi im trying to hack my router, i managed to sort out my ZA firewall to allow Java,to allow me to use the configuration manager but i cant use the telnet it wont allow me to put in a password... i can enter admin as a name but cant put anything in password!! Any ideas??
Well impressed m8 as a fellow aberdonian a ken fit like this sodding thing kin b so gud on ye mucker.......
hi barney! Hmm. weird one. If your other internet apps are working okay, I'd probably start by restarting Azzy (okay, you tried that) and then perhaps exiting it (and ensuring it really is killed in your windows task manager (Ctrl-Alt-Delete)! and then trashing all its temporary files, restarting it.
I had a spell, a wee while back, when Azzy was doing all sorts of funky stuff; I think it upgraded itself when I wasn't looking and the upgrade didn't work out, or something like that. I ended up downloading the jar file and placing manually it in the Azureus folder, deleted all its temp files (kept the prefs, though) and all was well. *phew*
To be sure, if it weren't for this page, I'd have forgotten about my router a long time ago, it just works! and I almost never suspect it when things start wonking out. With torrents I generally blame; The tracker, other peers, the torrent client, the filesystem, and then the router, in that order! Usually it's the tracker. You tried the Slackware torrent in the Useful links section? Always a good test of any torrent system.
By the way, that "wee spell" I had with Azzy was more than that, it was a feckin nightmare, for days on end, but the point is, I still use Azureus today, for all it's rapid development and the occcasional "foible" that brings (something I personally know well) it's still the best torrent client out there.
While I'm here getting Religious about Azureus (good name for a band!) I have to say this to the unconverted:, here's how I do my torrenteering..
I see a torrent on a site, I click it.
A wee while later, the file appears in my download folder.
That's it!
Azureus doesn't even run on this machine! It's elsewhere on the LAN, and just takes care of the whole shebang; checks the incoming folder every minute for a .torrent file, queues it up, downloads it, moves it over to my workstation, seeds it 1:1, then removes it. Beat that!
If you're still having troubles, barney, get back here with any error messages you might be getting, even if they include weird and unintelligable codes!
[edit]By the way, you do have DHT enabled in Azzy's prefs, right? And all your UDP and TCP, etc, use the same port? DHT is only used when the tracker goes down, I think, so definitely try the slackware torrent before anything else, just to see if it's a prefs issue.[/edit]
Darren! Amazing! Up until a few days ago, I hadn't thought this, but someone dropped in with the exact same issue! scroll back a page and you'll see, but the solution is so simple that you'll kick yersel!
Pretend that it is allowing you!
What I mean is, the password you are entering is going in just fine, it's just that you can't see it. That's a security feature, in case anyone was looking over your shoulder, you see? (Though I know from personal experience from my first session at the Vax mainframe at college, they just look at your fingers doing noob-slownes. fukkerz!) You don't get asterixes in telnet, generally.
Anyway, just pretend, and hit <enter> at the end, TADA! works great!
I'll defintely be adding something about this somewhere up top.
Moe! at wisnae yoo drunk at ma buzzer last nicht wiz it?
l*rz..
;o)
ps.. smileys fixed
hi could you help me just seen your page think it excellent. Trying to make my NAT more open for xbox live. i not sure it i'm entering the information right in viking
do i have to put slah in front of your text boxes? pleaase help me asap p.s my msn, thanks!
Hello there,
Despite thoroughly going through your guide I still get 'low-id' on emule. However, I noticed someonewhere along the pages that 'ALL FIREWALLS SHOULD BE DISABLED,' and was wandering if that meant firewalls within the BT router (205) or programs like my zonealarm etc or literally EVERYTHING!?
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks pal
It would appear to be a major problem checked
other sites. reinstalled everything after total cleanout
got DHT working and then went firewalled as I tried to
download no speeds on torrents looks like I am stuffed
until I can find a real answer
Cheers
barney
pezza, scroll up through the comments, there's loads about this. Also check out the "default+console" ready-made script in the archives - though you may need to edit that, especially if you have v1.8 firmware. I have enough information now to construct a new set of v1.8 configs, so I'll hopefully get around to that sometime soonish.
semi-noob, that means all firewalls except the 205's firewall. ZoneAlarm is fine, so long as you have also created a rule allowing it to be a server to the interent. If some previous rule exists in ZA, delete it, and let it present the dialog again, check "allow" for everything, and tell it to remember that. Any other firewalls, disable them. Also check your BIOS for "firewalling" features.
Okay barney, let's run through the checklist..
Remember, DHT uses the UDP protocol, so if all the peers are in the USA, or some other remote place, it could quite easily look like you are firewalled when you aren't, UDP tends to get lost over great distances, so it may look broken, then fixed, then broken, etc. Big fun!
In so many ways I am thankful that I almost never see the actual Azzy interface, not that it's ugly, but torrents can be erratic things, and watching that is like watching a thriller, or a kettle boil. I prefer just to have files pop up in my downloads folder!
best of luck m8!
get back here if you get any fresh information or clues.
;o)
since i aquired my broadband package last november i have had a lot of bother with the flashin dsl light syndrome.i have seen this problem arise in so many forums and all sorts of reasons why it happens.it has been happening so much with my 205 and bt also tried a few things in vain...they ken there`s a fault but they dinnae ken whaur.AGHHHHHHHHH...,BUT,they are on the case and they admit the fault is on thier side so i`m waitin patiently for this issue to b resolved.so anyone suffering the same and are on a bt line...give em a phone.in the process of tryin tae sort this out i had bt send send me another router thinkin at one point ma (lovable but not just yet)205 wis fecked,so i recieved a voyager 210 which i promptly unwrapped and installed to b just as promptly shown the flashin dsl palava.AGGGGHHHHHHHHHH.een more promptly i reboxed the 210 and reinstalled ma wee 205.so cor if ye want a split new 210 t experiment wi...jist say the word n i`ll send it up tae ye...a wee thanx fur aw yer time spent on this wit has got tae b ane o the best sights and maist helpful.cheers m8...greets fae strathclyde p.s. the above is something for people out there who suffer same problems n have tried everythin else my advice is call bt n check with em.
Hi guyz,
I've been here be4 and did try some of the changes suggested. However, never seemed to work so I had to accept the fact I have a s**t connection at home.
Recently, I've reinstalled Steam and tried to play CS and the s**t connection caught my attention once again. ok..here's the generalizsed problem:
1)DSL light, power light are solid..no flashing wt so ever..
2)Ethernet connection light flashes persistently but I guess it's due to data transmission!?(not sure..i'm a newb)
3)Normal internet surfing is FINE..no sudden disconnection wt so ever....BUT...when I try to download using bitTorrent or play CS 1.6....the connection becomes a "bitch"..and disconnects fairly frequently..say 2 minutes...(ALL the lights stay solid, except ethernet light)..I have turned off the firewalls...etc..and for windows firewall..I have made exceptions for Bitcomet TCP ports..
4)BT tech support is full of s**t...!!
Can I have a solution to the above problem PLEASE!!!..saving me from having to change modem/routers e.g. BT voyager 1500/2110..r they any good?Would they solve the problem I'm experiencing!?
Cheers
Mike
i am also having the same problem with this router whenever i want to play CS:S, Halo or Call of Duty online it doesnt like me joining any games!
also when i am able to get into a game in any of the games the USB flashes alot is that gd?
i really hav problems connecting to servers on these games would really like ur help.....
thx
ryan
Great Site, just got myself a 205 on ebay for twenty quid inc p&p. Your hacks and tips will prove invaluable. Noticed a general slagging off of USB modems and Windoze power management. Even better !!
Ady
P.S. Linux/Apache = very good
Solaris 10/Apache = very, very good
awaiting the flames.... :)
Good advice, andy s, I recommend the same. In truth, I almost never blame my own setup, if something wonks out it *must* be the ISP. It's not so easy to be so definite with a new setup, though, and no one likes to phone BT, so they soldier on. Och well.
MIKE, it just sounds like you need to apply some tweak, max connexions, TCP/UDP time-outs and such, try this (in a telnet session)..I'm no gamer, but I'm fairly sure that should help some. You'll need to remove the in-built firewall rules an such. See the main article for more details.
ryan, no USB! Get ethernet. Once you have ethernet, apply the tweaks, open any ports that need opened (port-forwarding, a-la recipes page) and you should be good to go. See my example for MIKE, above.
Ady, you are at the start of a beautiful relationship! Everyone's miliage seems to vary, but I've found the 205 to be a solid little gateway, always happy to accept another *nix box into its subnet! Actually I'm in the mood for this topic.
I haven't played with Solaris, but I know that Linux+Apache and BSD+Apache is a truly beautiful thing. Once KDE is up to speed (and really, it pretty much is), I'm sure many many currently-windoze users will wholoeheartedly agree, in time. The future, will be powered by penguins and their friends.
Don't get me wrong, I think Windoze has been a positive thing in the world of computing. Aside from providing a common, open (and I mean it could run on any hardware), working computing platform when the world really needed that, it has spurred massive development in Open Source alternatives; an effort that has yet to really come to fruition. But it will, in time.
Bill Gates may have already sown the seeds of his own destruction, but the *nix operating systems still have some way to go to topple windows. Truth is, most folk don't care, so long as everything works, and by that I mean their hardware, peripherals, tools, internet, etc. Sadly, many people's experience of Linux is still "a worthwhile waste of time", and while it may be highly enjoyable to the likes of us with geek blood in our veins, most folk want to just plug in their digi-cam and have the pics appear on the desktop, or whatever.
Put it like this: while many superior web browsers exist, Firefox, Maxathon, etc. Most people (for me it's around 50% of visitors, in general it's much higher) use Internet Explorer. It would take less than a minute to switch to either of these superior tools; their experience of the internet would radically improve overnight, their security would be enhanced, etc. etc. but even though it's less than one minute's effort, they can't be bothered, it's not that important.
What's the chance, then, that they will spend possibly days and weeks researching how to install something as fundamental as a sound card? They won't. Not that such things are always easy on Windoze, as anyone will tell you, but once locked into the Windoze OS, it's very difficult to get unlocked.
While there has been massive effort in the development of open source systems, there seems to me to be a massive lack of decent support technicians out there willing to promote *nix as an alternative desktop OS. I've put out a few free machines with Linux installed (usually Slackware, as is my wont) and if everything is setup, and the desktop is pretty and there's icons for everything they need, and it all works, they like it just fine!
With Firefox and Thunderbird (and when are they going to make a text editor along these lines and complete the holy trinity!?!?) you can make the transition to Linux fairly smooth. Folk come in and ask, "can I check my webmail", or whatever, and I just point them at a Linux box with firefox running, and they check their webmail and don't think about the OS underneath it all. Excellent!
If Wine (or something similar) were standard on all *nix boxes, and whenever you launched a windoze app, it would pop up a dialog explaining "this is a Winoze application, I can run it, but if you have a minute, we definitely recommend you check out these excellent free alternatives" and then it would present a few juicy links from the Wine database.
For those that do not know, Wine is a Windoze emulator enabling you to run many windoze applications inside Linux. Okay, strictly speaking it's not an emulator at all, but that's the idea.
I think what I'm saying is, it's not good enough to simply create something amazing, and expect people to somehow find it, and jump through hoops to get it, when at the end of the day it's something that shouldn't really matter too much, something whose major benefits are fairly intangible, and really, something we want to completely forget exists! The OS!? When did that become the superstar? Crazy.
Now that Macs run on Intel, it seems like there may be some sort of convergence going on, that perhaps in the future it might not be so difficult to run any old binary on any old platform and it just works, and we just get on with the job. Sounds like a licensing nightmare!
Anyway, it's unlikely anyone here would flame you for loving Linux (or else I'd be incinerated by now!) but as devotees, fancying ourselves as revolutionaries, we have to do more than just tell people how amazing Linux is. Bottom line; currently; the best way to convert someone to Linux is to go round to their house, uninstall XP, install Linux and set it up 100%, then provide support for the next few months.
There's lots of guys willing to code for free, but how many are willing to do that?
/me out
;o)
Hi Cor,
I set up my Router for stealth, but sometimes my router won't connect (which has happened before I made any changes), So I run the BT fix program and it seems to have reset my settings to default again.
If I lose power, it resets, and I seem to lose the config.
If I now click this link above ^^
Advanced >> Security >> IP Filter >> (click) Custom
I get this message:
Page Not Found
The requested page is not found.
So I can't load a saved config.
I need to stream through port 8000 for shoutcast/winamp which I had forwarded.
But now I can't see my station in the Radio list in winamp, which means the port has closed again.
Is there a way to not lose settings I've made?? I have spent hours sorting this thing out.. and it all worked great.. all stealthed.
This is begining to get boring now... all I want to do is stream on 8000 and remote stream on 8001 and use 80 when I get my server running, and a few torrents.
Any ideas.. many thanx.
LAB DESIGN - LAB Radio
LD
has anybody had any issues with the voyager 205 firmware version 1.8? I had a very intermittant internet connection after upgrading to 1.8, I had problems resolving domain names after 10 - 15 minutes of use. Flashing back to 1.6, everything is fine...
is there anyway to turn adsl voyager 205 router into just a modem and dissable the router im new her to pc's so dont know that much about routeing or static ips any help would be very gratefull thanxs
LD, sorted! elsewhere
Upgrading to the 1.6 firmware was the first and most important step.
Always the one from the archives here.
bill, I haven't had *specific* issues with the v1.8 firmware, but something about it always felt wrong, and while I put it on my test router (only a brief fling, sadly) I couldn't bring myself to put it on my main router, and still haven't.
I always recommend the v1.6 from the public archives (Useful links, above).
Thanks for confirming my feelings with a specific example.
terra, tricks page "zipb mode". Though I'd definitely recommend having a wee read through the pages here first, it's not so hard.
;o)
So, after stress from me, and a headache for cor, he helped me sort out my 205 router. through an IRC chat.
I can't thank you enough cor, for your patience..
I'm a total n00b when it comes to the internet.. so I owe you a beer, and I will donate to the site sometime soon, I don't have a paypal account, so I'll get a friend to make the donation on my behalf. and I'll email you when it's gone through.
Many thanx again.
Peace out.
LAB DESIGN - LAB Radio
LD
Holy shit!
I might even cover my costs this year!
Ahh, it was fun, LD, and my tech-for-n00bs penance paid for another week!
l*rz..
;o)
A BRIEF ADDENDUM TAE LAST POST
i should`ve said in last post concernin flashin dsl light on 205 cor...since more or less day 1 i have had this trouble gettin disconnected n dsl light goin crazy even before i learned how to hack the router.it was on default settings when the saga began and indeed i`m just off the phone this morn again wi the same problem.i`ve tried all sorts of premade configs and edited my own...no matter which way it is set up this problem is always around the corner waitin tae bite yer arse.i`ve checked through ma system as much as my knowledge allows and as far s i can see everythin is how it should b.as i said before bt admit the problem is thiers and they have called me so many times tellin me "we have found fault and this problem should b fixed now" that i wonder i was able to connect at all with the faults that have been there.i put up with this for the first month of my connection all the time checkin ma system and reinstallin windows xp at one point before i called bt maself.i like too consider maself as an advanced user as i have been using pcs for the past 11 years and am avid about them...over the years i`ve learned a wee thing or four and am learnin more everyday n lovin it (ah the joys). and lastly cor...ye made no mention o the voyager 210 i offered ye in previous post so wid ye mind sayin if ye want it or no...cheers amigos...greets fae strathclyde
Hi, not been around in a while as my router has been perfect until now.
Just took deliery of a brand spanking new 360. I have enabled UDP port 88 and TCP/UDP port 3074 for IP 192.168.1.5 (my 360). I have windows firewall turned off and running v1.8 firmware.
All the tests are fine until it reaches there "NAT" test. There are 3 types of connection possibilities, open (the best), moderate and strict.
Suprise suprise my connection is strict. Which means that I can only play against other xbox 360 players that also have strict connections (1 in 5).
I cannot figure out why I have a "strict" connection when the ports required are being forwarded to the xbox 360 on the IP address specified.
Any help appreciated.
I couldn't get 205 (s/h off eBay) to show "Advanced" web interface page the normal way (all the Firewall off etc.) through IE6.0 on XPsp2 PC, but your hyperlinks in "Getting Started.." section worked and gave me an idea...
Typing http://192.168.1.1/MainPage?id=## (replace ## with number between 1 and 51) in the adress bar will let you through the backdoor!
Thanks very much for the great site!
This is going to give me a load of fun!!!
Hello ;o)
Everything back to normal, absolutely no
rhyme or reason, 3 days of complete bollix
then away you go!!
Thanks for the help and sympathy
Must have been a isp/network issue.
Best
barney
Hello there.
First of all this is a great article and thanks for the author.
Then... I had this Bt voyager 205 with cable for an XP sp2 machine. I had this problem that whenever i try to use a P2P application (Bit Comet in most of the time), i will get disconnected every 5-10 mins. The connection icon just turned to black and small applications like MSN would just disconnect itself. Is that a problem with ISP(BT) / ROUTER setting / Windows XP itself?
i have configured Port forwarding, max TCPIP session 512, XP TCPIP limit 512
any help will be appreciated
sanji..what version of firmware are you using?
I found similar problems when using 1.8, downgrading to 1.6 (from this website) resolved my problems.
Thanks for the suggestion BILL. Unfortunately i am always on 1.6 so i guess that wouldnt work.
Just want to clarify that by disconnecting i mean all the connected applications like Bit Comet and MSN etc will be disconnected, the connection icon in the notification area turns to black(means no data transmitted) in stead of flashing blue. It seems to me that all the live connections made are cut off at the same time then they will back on in 2 minutes time.
Really annoying. Please help.
I've got a voyager 205 set up with IP forwarding into a dedicated firewall (Astaro).
Everything works fine - in and out until.....
I create a PPTP VPN on my lap top while out of the office using port 1723 and connect fine. Rummage around, read my mail and all appears OK for about 4 minutes then the router locks solid with it's DIAG light lit and all traffic in and out are locked up.
Reset the router and all is OK again.
Any ideas?
Richard
hihi.. well i tried the whole hacking thing to the bt router. its all done but when i use bit torrent clients such as azureus the internet just stops working. i changed the settings back to normal by presing the reset button. but still the internet doesnt work.... i have to restart the computer again... any clues why this is??
im using port 49210 for azureus.. but i didnt create any ports for normal internet usage?? do i need to create one? i'm fairly new to this but i roughly know how to use it
thanks for your help
erm... forgot to mention that im using usb for now... i have two comps and the main one i use is on usb and the other laptop is on ethernet cos its easier to connect... should i swap??
anyways it will mean that noone else can go on the connection if they bring their laptops cos they need to download drivers??
anyway i can use both ethernet?
Hi I'm a frequent guild wars player and only recently when i was playing it, the server crashed or something and the game was still playing but i couldn't change areas. The cool thing was that the monsters couldn't see me but i could see and kill them as if the server weren't updating my info. Is there any way for me to recreate this effect from my computer by stealthing at will or something?
Please give advice
thanks
This site is perfect for the problem I am having - can anyone help me?? I quickly read the site but I am not too technical and I am not sure how to fix this.
I want to set up a VPN connection from a remote worker who is using a BT Voyager 205 router. That has been set up fine , using a Draytek router on this end. However I now want to use VNC to enable remote control of a machine. The problem is that VNC does not support two routers having the same range of IP addresses. The BT router is set to 192.168.1.3, which already exists as an IP address on the Draytek network.
I want to change the BT router so it uses a range of IP addresses such as 10.1.1.1, because then VNC should work OK.
Have I explained this OK, and could somebody give me some clear instructions on how to do this?
Help greatly appreciated.
Oh, by the way, I've been onto BT tech support twice (in India) and they absolutely insist this can't be done - prove them wrong ?
Busybee.
Go to here: http://192.168.1.1/MainPage?id=2
You can set the static IP address of the BT 205 Router.
Thanks Chris. Before I do this can I confirm a couple of things? (1) Will this mean I can no longer access the router (BT support said this would happen and I've seen comments to this effect on this site) (2) Is it possible to change the IP address to a completely different subnet like 10.1.1.x ?
Chris, try the "perfect stealth" technique.
Ryo, that's exactly how we found them all in the first place, good work!
barney, if I had a buck for every time this happened, well, you know the rest. Never forget that "ISP" is always in the top three causes of any network trouble! Of course they blame their users.
sanji, check out the troubleshooting page.
RichardT, if you have old firmware, upgrade to v1.6 from my public archives. If you already have that, as well as the usual tweaks, check your UDP/TCP timeouts, make them small. Also, keep the thing cool.
yoyo920, did you start with one of the ready-made scripts? I recommend you just put in the v1.6 firmware, upload one of the ready-made scripts. You only need to create rules for servers (web servers, p2p apps, etc), but the ready-made scripts have those, well, ready-made.
Ditch the USB, use ethernet. Get a switch.
sparky, cheating on games is lame, but cheating on multi-player games! No comment!
Busybee, it's simple enough to alter the IP of the router (and yes, any valid class A/B/C address is fine). BT's concern is probably that as soon as you do that, all the computers on the router's LAN won't be able to access it until they, too, have been switched to the new subnet. This brief transitionary phase can be tricky if you don't know what you are doing, or if someone else (remote tech, for instance) "just does it" and you haven't a clue why the whole internet suddenly disappeared.
I ran my own voyager on a different subnet for months when I first got it, and it was simply a case of switching "Location" on my Mac, though the procedure is fairly straightforward on most platforms. If the local computers are set to get their IP information dynamically, simply restarting their ethernet interface should do the trick.
So long as you are prepared, and know what you're doing, it's a trivial alteration. But remember, if the router ever gets reset, it's one you will need to perform again.
for now..
;o)
Afternoon! Just want to say thanks for such a great site and a wealth of useful information. However, there is one area that is still causing me all sorts of grief. I'm using BT Broadband at home, and so have a dynamic IP address and have signed up to DynDNS. Trouble is, every time I try and access the URL, I get either a 10060 Timeout error or a DNS error. There seems to be so little that I could do to go wrong, but I'm obviously missing something. Any hints or tips you have would be very gratefully received!
Cheers,
Jim
Cor,
The easiest way to allow Xbox, Xbox 360 or PS2 to have online gaming is to:
1st setup the correct TCP/UDP settings as described on your site or if using v1.8 firmware (example):
create ipf rule entry ruleid 3074 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq num 6 destport eq num 3074 seclevel high medium low
the 6 is the key on v1.8 as this destinguishes TCP, for UDP simply replace the 6 with a 17 as shown below:
create ipf rule entry ruleid 3074 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq num 17 destport eq num 3074 seclevel high medium low
Secondly and probably quite unsafe but i'm positive that this is the only way Xbox live or PS2 online will allow the connection to be "open" is to set a static IP for the xbox/ps2 and add the IP to the DMZ on the router.
Hey presto, it works perfectly:
create nat rule entry ruleid 3088 bimap lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.5 lcladdrto 192.168.1.5
(I chose ruleid 3088 for the DMZ because it was a cross between 3074 and port 88 the 2 ports needed for xbox live
Good luck!
i`ve noticed usin emule on my main pc and bitorrent on a wee torrentox(p11-400) that when i set the individual ports security tae high it disconnects often,sometimes more than others.i`ve split the upload bandwidth between the twa apps and even runnin them on thier ain this still happens.set my security tae low and it`s stopped disconnecting,at least nowhere near as much as it was,dramatic improvement...when it disconnected me my 205 wid lock up with aw lights locked on.noo i`ve figured this oot i`ve kept an ee on things n aw is fine in the cyberworld...so anybody havin the same probs gie that a try n good luck...ma next move is ditchin windaes xp n movin tae linux (soon). cannae leave this sight... a love it...a`m away tae rummage again
> Dear Corz
>
> You put your site under construction right when I was in the middle of
> my last post!!
>
> Can you help me progress the issue I was having with my remote worker? Sorry if I am being a thick beginner and taking up valuable space on the forum, for all the real techies.
>
> When I click on the advanced pages, I get prompted for credentials and
> it accepts admin/admin. However none of the advanced options do anything
> (I want to change IP settings). When I input
> ..192.168........MainPageID?=2 as per Chris' suggestion the router
> disconnects from the internet and I get page not found.
>
> So far I have
>
> Switched to ethernet connection
>
> Disabled windows firewall, Norton Internet Security and Norton AV
>
> Granted full Java permissions in IE
>
> I can't see from troubleshooting what to try next? I was going to look
> up how to change the IP address with Telent but was researching this
> when you kicked me out. If this is the next step can you tell me the command to change the IP address?
>
> I should add that I am accessing the PC remotely from a different
> location using a Citrix type tool called gotomeeting. The router on this
> end is a Draytek.
>
> For info I have got the PC set to dynamically get its IP address so it
> should pick up when I do finally get to change the router IP address.
>
Thanks Chris, so that's put it in a DMZ and create a bimap rule for it, or what? Feel free to mail me that config!
Cheers, andy, though you'll have a hard job finding many things right now onsite; I got to the "serv" toolbar button, and sixteen versions later I'm still not happy with it, so for now, navigation stops there! corzoogle is always handy, though.
I definitely want to see your config! In theory, there shouldn't be any difference between thew security settings, not with one of my scripts, anyway, but if you still have the original BT rules in place, changing security settings could have a massive impact. Goan export and mail that to me! If there's something in this, I'll make an addition to the articles somewhere.
BusyBee, nice timing! I've been working hard on the new version of corzblog, and I'm quite often uploading replacement bbcode parser and comments mechanism, so although it's quite unintentional on my part, these things may cease to work as I upload. It only lasts a second though, at least, if everything works after the upload it does. So far so good!
This site has been "under construction" since 2003, longer if you count the pre-corz.org days. Never let that stop you, though!
As to the router, step one; ditch Internet Explorer. As well as being completely crap, it messes with almost every aspect of web developer's fine work. Firefox is recommended.
Norton *anything* is also classified as "crap", at least in my own personal classification system. For AntiVirus (if you really really must *sigh*) I recommend AntiVir, free and excellent. For firewalls, ZoneAlarm is also free, and quite excellent, especially their not-free version.
Once you login to the admin pages, you should be good to go. The only thing that should stand in your way after that is a crap browser/interfering Firewall/brain-dead AV package, etc. Most folk have no trouble.
Your remote access might be a factor, and I haven't really considered this, but with a decent browser you should be fine. Remember, you can enable WAN-Side access to the router's web interface, too. Coupled with the "one IP is admin" suggestion on the tricks page, it's not a bad system.
The easiest way to alter the IP is to a) export the config, b) change the eth interface command from 192.168.1.1 to *whateveryoulike*, and then, c) upload it again.
for now..
;o)
LvlLord’s TCP/IP patcher <<< any1 know where i can get that from it opens up your maximum outgoing connections to 50 because windows xp sp2 has a limit on it an it boost your torrent speeds from like 30k to 100k
Tony, you can get a max connexions patcher in the archives, here, but that has very little to do with your torrent download speeds. Specifically, the limit is on "Half-Open TCP connexions", you see.
The last time I installed an XP SP2, I didn't even bother.
;o)
Corz
The trouble shooting doesnt really solve my problem of router disconnecting me while using P2P. As i found out somewhere else that BT router is really nasty that it is unable to handle too many connections...is that true? I was told to keep away from BT router but i suppose you must have a great time with it....
Any idea for this?
btw,as long as the router is fine, you dont really have to bother about this TCP/IP patcher.
Sanji, have you actually thought about downloading one of the "pre-configured" commitedcfg.cfg scripts from this web site and uploading that to your router?
Have a look here: http://corz.org/public/docs/comms/router/ready-made/
I'd personally go with the one which has P2P support, it's already fully stealthed and has all the tweaks applied.
Then all you need to do is download and FTP program (Cute FTP will do fine).
ftp://192.168.1.1
user: admin
pass: admin (unless you've changed it)
once connected log into the "home" directory and upload the new file into there.
sanji, maximum connexions 512 (511 for v1.8 firmware, which I don't recommend) so the troubleshooter really will solve your problems if you follow it, because it tells you how to fix this. Basically, ensure all your P2P apps don't go above 512 connexions.
Believe me, this is *plenty*, and certainly never prevented me from downloading over 150GB a month! Intense gamers may disagree, but Bael never has any troubles with it (Gamespy helps, I think)
But Chris is right, you are generally better off starting with a fresh ready-made script, and working from there.
;o)
Thanks Cor and Chris. I have done all you suggested up there such as 512(511 for 1.8 of course), port forwarding, PPP keep alive etc. Whenever i increase the connection for p2p application above 50 overall, the router will just disconnect...... i dont know if it is any local setting or the problem of the router.....
Anyway i will try the pre-configured cfg file.
Thanks again
Hi,
This is one of the only sites i find easy to follow on these types of subjects.
Can someone tell me how to unblock the port 5730 because atm i can't play pro evo online
cheers
Hello all,
A couple of things, if I might. Firstly, as a point of interest and for future archive reference,
the parallel port flash recovery lead works perfectly well on both the Netgear DM602 and the Zoom
X5 5654. Thanks very much for that info. It has come in exceedingly useful this last week
wasn't due to the fact that I found this site, the Netgear would have probably been binned due to
the horrendous crippling that Netgear do to it's interface. It now has rather wholesome capabilities,
running the SAR130 firmware.
Secondly, I noticed someone else posted with regard to having a Conexant Vulcan chipset modem. Does
anyone happen to know of any other firmware that runs in this unit? The modem itself is a Zoom X5 5654.
The HW version identifies as 810100. It's an Adsl+2 modem. The Zoom firmware is quite capable but has
some minor niggles, so I wondered if there might be a more original Globespan firmware for it. I can
supply the TEImage.bin file for this firmware if anyone might have use for it, BTW.
Thanks in advance,
Matt
hi... soz for takin ur time again
i used the config for p2p but it still disconnects... what do u mean by connexions?? i dont know how to change this im my p2p programs..
anyway.. i dont use them and my router still disconnects for no reason.. sometimes i just boot up the pc, turn on the router, open msn and then my browser..loading up hotmail... and cuts off halfway
FOR NO REASON!!??
please help
any chance you could help out the many people who, like me, have avoyager 205 and want to connevt their xbox 360 and pc in the usual way, allowing the 360 to host games (dmz rule) but also be able to connect to their pc to enable the media centre thingy to work.
cheers
rea1
This page if awesome. Great job m8.
WoW. thanx for your knowledge. Great to see peeps who take the time and effort to present all this and make the site available for free. truely great
Hello again all,
Just as a slight addendum to my post above, I realised I had posted on the wrong page.
Matt
hello am just asking in the download bit they is a file called >>> viking-firmware+cfg_backup+upg+restore <<< is that all the ports done and everything
cheers fur the reply aboot config cor...done what ye suggested with RAD as soon as i got word back fae ye so watch this space n i`ll tell ye n a day or twa how it goes.noo aboot bieng a talented fool...hmmmm...maybe jist a fool...who`s tryin tae build his talents albeit some quicker than others
Hey... sorry this is gna sound like a rele silly question but i use MSN messenger an every night (this does not happen in the day) iy signs me out every 5 minutes, on the fifth minute the DSL light flashes and i get signed out. Ive tried everything like unticking the USB hub root ports an no look, even asked for help from BTBroadband help an they were rubbish! Plz help im runnin out of ideas its so annoyin! (plz reply to the email i filled in above)
Steph x
well cor,i`ve left ma systems runnin fae ma last post n even after usin RAD n i`m still losin ma connection every 4 hours n 56 minutes of runnin time.bt engineer was out again last week n found dodgy wiring n the line right outside ma front door so i`m not gettin the flashin dsl syndrome anymore (at last).seems tae b when i run the twa systems the gither it plays for so long then spits the dummy oot.cannae figure it oot so a think i`ll start again fae scratch unless ye`ve any ideas.cheers the noo,greets fae strathclyde
it just disconnects every 3-19 minutes before sumthin around 6 pm....it only started about 20 days after i got the modem and now b4 6pm every 3-19 minutes i will just drop the DSL line for no reason.
I solved this disconnecting problem by changing to a NetGear. Now everything works perfect!
btw, when i was with 205, i set the max ip sess to 512 but it changes back to 192 after every reboot
reportin back cor fae last post...when i leave ane system runnin n usin emule it runs lovely,no lock ups.likewise when i use the torrentbox with bittorrent runnin it also runs lovely but,when i run the twa simultanously (is that spelt richt),it`s lock up n reboot time fur ma beloved wee 205,puir wee thing jist wants tae work right n cannae coz i cannae figure oot whits causin the lock ups,ane morn i`m gonnae wake up n it`ll huv packed it`s box n found a new owner
Hey, just wanted to drop a line and commend you on this site, its great! I was wondering though, what tools would be needed to install a fan into the 205? I've got my eyes on a crystal one with 4 colour flashing LED's, I think that would compliment the green lights nicely, hehe. I must look for a guide for installing fans into anything, could come in handy. Once again, great site.
Hi,
I just bought a 205 via ebay to replace a Speedtouch USB modem provided by BT when I started using BT Business Broadband. BT "helplines" now tell me that the 205 only works for residential customers and not business. My username ends with btclick.com whereas the 205 installation CD demands a btinternet.com username. Can it really be true that this will not work for business customers? or is there a simple way around the limitations of the installation disk?
Any advice greatly appreciated. Thank you :o)
@luckyman
Don't use the installation CD! (
You can change the username and password required quite easily through the 205's web interface.
http://192.168.1.1/MainPage?id=25 (assuming your router is at 192.168.1.1)
LUCKYMAN - I'm on BT business with a 205 and it works fine - You just gotta put your network login and pass into the 205's main page.
Hi. Thanks a lot for the website.
I need to connect the voyager to an asus router by pppoe so I can use the router options of the asus. How do I configure the voyager to work as a normal modem and accept the username and password from the asus? I tried to enable the "bzip" but it didn't work.
Cheers
Many thanks PapA LazaRoU and Katash. For some reason when I try what you suggest, I get the message "The operation timed out when attempting to connect to 192.168.1.1." I get a similar message when I try the same thing using my daughter's computer ... am I doing something wrong please?
Thanks again.
Ive tried nearly everything to try and get my Voyager205 to paly CS servers. They all appear on the lsit but when i try to connect a box appears I select join game and nothing happens. Ive turned firewals off, opened necessary UDP ports etc. canm anybody give me some advice
Thnaks alot Chuteuk!!
Ooops i did'nt read closely enough, ive found the probelm and fixed it! This website rulez, thanks for your help!!!
,Chuteuk
hi,
i read the article on getting a static ip address.
what i understand is:
1. you switch dhcp off on the router.
2. allocate an ip address on the same subnet to your machine.
3. use NAT to redirect incoming traffic to your machine.
my question is if for example your address is 192.168.1.3
and you type this in a browser outside your network
(say in an internet cafe) how will this locate your router.?
even if you can get a url for this address by specify bt's nameservers
how will the bt server know which router you are looking for.?
i hope i have mis-understood as i would very much like to be free
to purchase a url of my own choosing but avoid the 5 quid a month fee from bt for a static ip.
cheers paul.
hi everyone
can anyone tell me where to find the soft ware to install the Bt 205 voyager
Cheers
If i have 2 computers, one using USB 192.168.1.2 and one using Ethernet 192.168.1.3 - can i transfer files between them? if so.. how?
Also. im plugging a WIFI MAX dongle for my PSP so i can surf the internet using my psp, (also to online game) is my voyager 205 gonna shit itsself?
Jay:
You can use 205 without installing any software i believe.
tony, no, that's a utility for messing with firmwares. for what you want, check out the "read-made" section.
andy, make sure that the TOTAL number of connexions isn't over 511, so maybe 250 for the torrents, 200 for emule, leaving plenty for your regular surfing, email, etc. It does work. Anything else is line trouble! have fun!
Sean, small set of needle files, small saw, screw, that sorta thing. If it weren't for that neat paperweight on top of mine, I'd just cut a big square hole in the top and slam one on. Glue it on, even.
CoolkcaH, did you see the notes under the zipb section?
luckyman, there's no problem connecting the 205 to any ISP. And you definitely don't need to install any software to use the 205. (though see note, bellow).
Run through the checklist at the foot of the troubleshooter (link in the title of these comments) and ensure the basic network stuff is setup on your LAN.
jay, if you really need the USB drivers for some reason, I put together a "bare" USB install. You get the drivers, but without all the BT shite that goes with it. I've tested the package (some time ago) and it works well, but ethernet is always recommended if at all possible.
Vinny, ditch the USB, get a switch (see useful links section).
Others are already answered or flowers; thanks for them!
;o)
Ahhh i cant get rid of the USB, because the way it goes is, Me and my brother are sharing the router, i have the unlucky usb cable and he has the ethernet, the only reason he has the ethernet is because his pc is in another room and well.... i dont know of any 12 metre usb cables.
I got rid of my voyager a few months back and plugged in a trusted modem. simple etc. but my brother suffered because he then had no access to the interenet.
I tried to use the voyager again last night, and remembering all the problems i had with it before came flooding back to me.
Ive read through every page... trust me i have!!!!
CAn you PLEASE just write me the basic rule to allow all ports all access to 192.168.1.2 and 192.168.1.3 (their our statics)
Im mainly having trouble with Counter Strike source, i went to portforward website and followed the instructions, got about 20+ rules in and it said LIST FULL or something like that. So im not seeing half the servers i should be. Dont worry, ive done the maxipsess thing for 512 connections. ive put all these in telnet and (commited)
create ipf rule entry ruleid 5 dir out act accept storestate enable seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 500000 ifname public dir in act deny seclevel high medium low
modify ppp global keepalive enable
modify ppp global pppsesstimer nevertimeout
modify nbsize maxipsess 512
modify nat global tcpidletimeout 1800 tcpclosewait 30 tcptimeout 10 udptimeout 15
Counter strike bits :
firewall:
create ipf rule entry ruleid 1200 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq udp destport eq num 1200 seclevel high medium low
nat:
create nat rule entry ruleid 1200 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.3 lcladdrto 192.168.1.3 destportfrom num 1200 destportto num 1200
firewall:
create ipf rule entry ruleid 27000 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq udp destport range 27000 27039 seclevel high medium low
nat:
create nat rule entry ruleid 27000 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.2 lcladdrto 192.168.1.2 destportfrom num 27000 destportto num 27039
firewall:
create ipf rule entry ruleid 27020 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq tcp destport range 27020 27039 seclevel high medium low
nat:
create nat rule entry ruleid 27020 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.3 lcladdrto 192.168.1.3 destportfrom num 27020 destportto num 27039
Now according to portforward, that should cover UDP 1200 and 27000 to 27039 and TCP 27020 to 27039
???
Am i thick and totally missing the point with this router thing? When i plug in my speedtouch usb modem i had from a previous ISP i can get everything to work fine.
OH and just as a side note, can you tell me please how to disable DHCP in telnet because sometime i have trouble with the Web interface.
Please help, i know i have USB, but even if i use my brothers pc which is in the ethernet side, i get no luck.
yer some man cor...i never even thought aboot it n ma emule connections were set tae 500,sometimes i`m as thick as twa short planks o wid.will let ye ken how it goes but i`m sure ye`ve sussed it,cheers mannie
i use limewire pro and i was wondering how i can allow it through my router 205 and what ip or port i have to enter and how as limewire worked fine on two pcs running through it b4 with modem but now it keeps dropping on second pc and sometimes on mine i think lime wire is using all the bandwith and not leaving any for other things could someone help please thanks
Vinny, read my lips.. GET A SWITCH!!!
It works like this. You use ethernet, your brother uses ethernet, the 205 uses ethernet, and the switch has at least five ethernet sockets. Everything plugs into there. Ethernet cables are available up to 50M or more. No one has to be "unlucky", you can both live the good life.
THEN you can share. Files, internet connexion, whatever you like.
It's ten bucks. Five pounds each. Now go get a switch!
THEN you can think about creating proper rules to allow inbound traffic through the firewall. You cannot allow ALL ports to BOTH machines, that's not possible. You will need to decide who gets what. Create ranges, make it easy on yourself.
But first, get a switch.
Networking + USB = go away!
Although having said that, I do like those groovy USB-to-Ethernet adaptors you get, you just plug them in any old USB-capable puter and Bingo! You got ethernet! (I got a couple free off Joker, ta m8!) I sell you one for a fiver
But, of course, the point of the groovy device is so that you can connect a non-ethernet capable puter to a REAL ETHERNET LAN, because Networking + USB = don't be silly!
andy! Nice one! It was pure Sherlock Holmes, dude! Once I'd eliminated the impossible, that's all that was left! Happy surfin!
jacqulina, check out the troubleshooter.
for now..
;o)
ps.. I've noticed, with eMule, KAD is a strain to have running all the time, but, if you connect to KAD while you are searching for sources, and then disconnect from KAD, the sources are still there. Did I dream that?
Morning.... Cor... im pretty sure that spanky usb/ethernet thing is just collecting dust.. you hate usb :P Post me for free.. you know the world would be a better place. If u look at all posts on here and search using the EDIT - Find thing and search for Vinny, youl see ive had problems like forever....
I thought last night id cracked it. sadly i hadnt, i had counter strike on with 79 servers.. wohoo. thats the best i could get. in the end it was 10pm id been on with it since 5:30pm and the only progress i got was to have me and my bro on static ip's and still having connection to the net. (with me dropping all the time) - btw i think most of my problem is the usb since the other day i plugged another usb device in and my mouse stopped working... yet i dunno cos my speedtouch is usb.. meh.
Anyway at 10pm i thought foook it, and i plugged my speedtouch back in, sighed abit of happyness as 3000+ servers apeared. Then played css for an hour and kicked the voyager in the head, spat on it and went to bed.
Please... if your in a good mood... check my email addy i posted (where it says it wont be shown) and let me know if youl post me it :P since u said fiver... im guessing ur in the UK. im near Newcastle area...
Hi Cor,
First of all, lovely site. Thanks for all your hard work. I notice that you only have a 205. If you would like to be supplied with a 210, 220V, 2091 and possibly even a 2500V free of charge, let me know. I have large quantities of 210s and 2500Vs, as I sell them. It would be in my interests for there to be a working hack for the 2500V, so I am happy to help if required.
You have my email address, so get in touch if you are interested.
Sorry for the pseudonym, but I don't want to do anything that could be perceived as being spam.
Ta
FTP does not work.. when i try ftp links it does not allow me access
how can i get this to work
Santa, Merry Christmas! YES! I'll take two of each!
At the moment, my non-205 stuff is all lumped in a page called "non-205" and I leave them to it! But for sure, if I had other devices, I'd do what I could to make available some information for the beasts, collect resources here, and put up a place for folk to share their knowledge, hacks, unlocks, whatever we can uncover.
Time is always a factor, but if you send 'em, I'll plug 'em in and write em up! Thanks!
yoyo, the only ftp communications that could be affected by your router are "PORT" (a stupid name) aka. "active" (a better name) connexions. "active" connexions require the server to connect back to the client for the data connexion, and went out of style circa 1998, in favour of "passive" connexions, where the ftp server instead says "connect to me on *this* port" and the client then connect out, which makes a whole lot more sense.
Check your ftp client's options (aka. preferences, perhaps "site bookmarks"), or whatever your client calls these, and ensure you are using passive mode to make your ftp connexions, NOT PORT (aka. "active", I wish they'd decide on a term once and for all!).
If some ftp server demands active connexions, mail the admin and let them know how lame they are. Alternatively, watch the connexion log and open whatever port it's trying to connect on, possibly port 20. In other words, make a port-forwarding rule for it.
for now..
;o)
Awww cor you didnt reply to my post :P
sorted cor...it was the max connections that were too high right enough,wit wiz that ye said in yer email aboot a fool(i admit it...but i`ve learnt fae it)he he
thankyou for your help vinny i have learnt quite a lot so far i will get a switch but i have learnt to portforward i need to get the messenger ip address then i can do that one as well thanx
I have just got access to newsgroups. News hosting and i am having trouble connecting to the server. this is what they require from the ports.
Standard routing ports
port(s): 119, 23, 25, 80, 3128 routing: default (bgp)
The following ports allow you to force your packets out a particular connection of ours:
port(s): 7000 routing: ServerCentral (path1)
port(s): 8000 routing: Cogent (path1)
port(s): 9000 routing: BtN (path1)
i have tried opening all off them but nothing sems to go through. i even reset the router and started from beginning and it started to work then stoped. i can connect to my ISP newsgroup
Thanks in advanced
Unlike the real Santa I don't know where to send your booty to. :-) Could you email me your address and I will sort you out a package.
Ta
u giving these voyagers away for nothing
Hello,
Just wanted to say thank you for having such an informative site that has helped me configure my Globalspanvirata GS8100 router. I also of course have a couple of questions .....
1) When I have updated the IP filter rules as you describe (5 and 500000) it works great. I Submit then Commit on the Admin page. However if the router is rebooted I loose your rule 5 and it sticks in the default rule 5 which is NBG ! I have tried reboot and reboot from last configuaration and it is the same.
The software version is 3.959AVT4.8124A. From this I cannot tell whether it is at the latest release or not.
Do you think it would help if I updated to TEImageV18.exe if in fact it would work.
2) Skype is a peer to peer service. Do I need a special IP filter rule for that ?
Thanks in advance
Dave
a wee note fur peeps usin xpsp2...upgrade tae gold edition of xp as the max tcp connections have went fae 10 tae unlimited(yyyeeeehhhhaaaaaa).also a few other improvements which make this version of windows much better than previous versions.so far, it`s the best of a bad bunch.
Hi all,
I'm a former BT client who got a Voyager 205 modem/router. In order to go broadband wireless at home I bought an Ethernet enabled Linksys.
The person I live with now is signed up with TalkTalk, which uses the speedtouch usb modem and, as opposed to BT broadband, requires signing up everytime you want to go online.
Now that I've tried to use the BT modem with the new ISP so all of us can browse the web at the same time my laptop does recognize the modem, it gets an IP address and tells me it is connected at 100 Mbps but fails to go online. Obviously, TalkTalk tells me they won't provide technical support for modems other than theirs.
Would you please provide advise on how to configure the Voyager 205 so I can use it with the Linksys wireless router?
Many thanks Cor (your comments 28 Mar), I now have ethernet connection for my laptop. This may be a dumb question but neither of my other 2 computers have ethernet ports so how do I get around the USB problem please? One of them is ancient (Windows 98) while the other is only just over a year old (Windows XP).
Just to own up fully in case it affects your answer, I bought a Sitecom Wireless Router 11M before I realised that my USB Speedtouch modem was not compatible with it. Then I bought the 205 thinking it would simply connect to the Sitecom Router - I was assuming that (i) my Windows XP computer had an ethernet port at the back and (ii) my Windows 98 computer could use the USB port on the 205 (feeling pretty silly on both counts now ...). I've tried the USB-to-Ethernet adapters you refer to but these just result in an unrecognised USB device and no connection.
Any suggestions please?
Regards,
Luckyman (maybe I should be changing my name ...)
hi there does anyone know where i can get a network switch i havnt a lot of money at mo so a cheap one would be great thanks for your help,i tried the port forwarding it didnt work i done it to the letter thanks
jacqulina: cheap switches are everywhere these days - try your local computer shop - use this or this as a benchmark.
awricht Cor...i`m startin tae think ye`ve went a wee holiday,either that or yer sittin in front o yer pc wi riggor-mortis(pmsl).hows it hangin bud,hope all`s well up n aberdeen.did ye get the 210 config i sent via email cor...i`d b very interested in finding out what other wee tweaks i could apply.tae b honest i`m startin tae love ma 210 n i can`t use my 205 now because i went to flash the firmware back to 1.6 from 1.8 n whit happens...the feckin flashin DSL syndrome again.been on phone tae bt 3 times since friday n they still can`t get tae the bottom o it.205 is now waitin tae b sorted oot so that`s anither up n comin adventure.back tae 210 cor...try one oot n c whit ye think,there appears tae b no default firewall rules on this router...that`s right,nada,as far as i can c anyways.i`m still feelin my way aboot it`s config pages and in a telnet session it`s totally different tae 205,so i`m still feart o it(lol).ye never ken cor ye might even switch routers yersel ance ye`ve checked it oot,that`s if ye check it oot,let me ken if theres any developments if ye do look at either router or config script.don`t mean tae sound sceptical that y`ll check em out cor but,i ken ye`ve a life ootside this web page n yer ain pc m8 so any advance on this would b appreciated...greets fae strathclyde n take it easy cor...later.:-)
I have a Voyager 205 and a D-Link DI624+. I have set up an web server using IIS on XP pro on one of the two computers attached (wireless) to the 624. I have installed the ZIPB config on the Voyager, and set up the http virtual server with a static private IP address for the server computer on the 624). Everything seems to be working fine on the network, but I can't access the web site from outside on a dial-up. I can ping the WAN IP address on the 624 ok. Any suggestions from anybody, please!
Karl, you don't need to open ports to connect out to anything. Certainly not a news server.
Santa, check the contact page.
Luckyman, if you tried the USB->Ethernet converter and got "unrecognized device", that simply means you need to install the drivers for the USB->Ethernet converter!
I have two different varieties of these (and whoever it was that said earlier that they wanted one, seriously, mail me your address, I have two spare.). The first type is an unmarked Chinese thing, but turns out to be an "AEI USB To Fast Ethernet Adapter", model 8511, I think. The drivers weren't too hard to track down.
The second type is an SMC "EZ Connect USB" and it does exactly what it says on the can; at least with XP Pro, no drivers are required (or rather, they are built-in to XP), so you just plug-and-go-ethernet.
Get the drivers! THEN try it!
Alternatively, get a regular NIC; they are around three bucks, even for a really good one. A reliable old 3Com EtherLink III can be picked up for under a quid, mine was.
By the way, there's no such think as luck.
andy s, I haven't had a chance to look at the 210 config yet, though router-wise, I have been fairly busy, as I'll explain later.
As to configuring this thing, in lieu of me getting one, just do what I did when I first got it and had not a clue; telnet in, and do..and then see where it goes from there. is also handy.
Trying, it just sounds like you need to setup port-forwarding on the D-Link.
Now for the good news.
I spent this morning, mostly disconnected from the internet, creating and testing a new batch of "ready-made" configs. I couldn't even tell you what version of firmware I have right now, but suffice to say, ALL of the configs work on BOTH versions of the firmware, yup.Also, they have notes within.
Every one of them has been tested from a clean and/or reset version of each firmware, and works 100%. The firmwares I used are the v1.6 available in the archive, and the official 1.8 from BT (which I'll also upload to the archives, for reference), quite probably BT will update it again, anyway.
So, if you are having any troubles forwarding ports or whatever, I definitely recommend you try one of the new ready-made configs, whichever firmware you are using. Do read the page carefully before proceeding, of course.
Have fun!
;o)
i have been told on the non 205 page that
my 220v router does not recognise caommand like create.
does this mean i am screwed.?
i just want to set up a home webserver like i did before
with the 205 by copying the commands from this site.
i am using dyndns and i have apache listening on port 80 and
a j2ee server listening on 8080.
where can i find equivalent commands for the 220v
cheers,
paul.
Hi Corr, is there a way of "CodingGain tweak" with the 205 ?
Cheers
Phil
I've found another router that uses this chipset.. Zoom ADSL X5.. It's got a four port switch built in
Anyway, another trick: Rather then setting up static IP's on the computers (which can be a hassle for laptops that move around), set them up on the router.
Go into the DHCP Server setup page, click Add
Put in the IP you want this computer to be for Start/End IP Addresses, and the computers MAC address for the MAC address field (Get it by going to the command prompt, and typing ipconfig /all)
Click save changes. Thats it!
Now, whenever that computer tries to get a IP with DHCP, it will get the one you set it to. That IP will remain constant no matter what OS that the computer runs, it also means you don't have to switch between IP addresses if you have multiple networks you use.
paul, no, it means you will need to use some other command. See the advice I gave to andy s, above.
CodingGain tweak, never heard of it. You can tweak a few types of gain, mainly related to your line connexion, but "CodingGain"? What is that? Anyways, I'm inclined to not want to reply to this because it means having to refer to a human being as "CodingGain tweak".
Good tip, devicenull! It's certainly not as easy as giving a machine a statip IP, but for laptops (at least ones without Mac OS X installed - which would automatically sense and switch location) this provides a neat way to ensure you always get the same IP on the 205's subnet. Good work!
;o)
ps.. anyone tried one of the new configs yet?
Hi Corr, we ll I was reading that some peeps have managed to increase their SNR via some "CodingGain tweak " on their router/modem. For they did have an SNR of 30db before maxdsl came out, now they have a snr of 4, they applied this tweak and increased their snr up to 12db.
My snr at moment is between 5db and 7.5db and I have been interleaved at the exchange, so my gaming has suffered with pings of 110 (they were 20 - 40 before).
Finally, FINALLY, I've managed to get NAT problem sorted with P2P client! Thanks a
quadzillion!
Trying to connect to a VPN at work and I have been advised the following :-
"check if there is a section where you can configure Application Level Gateways / ALG. If so, the ALGs to investigate are those that say PPTP or VPN. For example, my D-Link router has an ALG called PPTP and by default this is unticked. Once I'd ticked the setting and restarted the router, I could connect to THS with no problem."
Can you give me advice on doing this for the 205 ? I have looked at the ALG section on here but I`m a bit puzzled. Thanks
Hi,
My Voyager is just used for access and feeds my dedicated firewall (IPCop) and server. The 205 runs just fine except that my connection crawls to a halt every day between 04:45 and 04:49.
I checked with my ISP and also ruled out the firewall and server from causing the problem so I'm left with BT, extreme contention on the line at this time (unlikely to be quite *so* destructive - *all* my access stops for 4 minutes) or the 205.
I haven't yet got up at 04:45 to watch the lights on the 205
(s/w v1.6 - I don't use the inbuilt router/firewall so I can see no reason to upgrade!)
thankyou very much for your help and the links
Great site - I've just bought a 205 and found your site invaluable.
Excellent work!!!
This site has been a great help, keep it up.
Is there a way to completely disable the firewall, even if you turn the modem on and off, as I already use a firewall which I am completely familiar with, and this firewall is messing it all up.
Or if there isn't a way to disable it, do you have a way for me to quickly open different sets of ports after I turn the router on (as it is common practice for me to turn off the modem at night).
FYI, I have a Mac OS X 10.3.
Thanks again for all the help
If ya want a cheap switch go to dabs.co.uk they are very cheap! Bought a 24port Ethernet switch for £97 quid made by 3Com!
Surf's Up! The most unlikely thing is that contention would be an issue at 4.45am! Almost no one is surfing then in the UK, and the net should go like proverbial shit off a stick.
Another unlikely thing is that your ISP could comment about your firewall and "server", whatever that is. These things are on your side of the gateway, no? Your ISP can't even see them. Only you can tell if they are causing issue.
As far as I know, the 205 doesn't do much housekeeping, ever, at least not between reboots, and there's nothing magical about 4.45am, per se. But here's the good news; you can watch your router, even while you sleep. Simply open a telnet session, and leave it open. If anything happens to the router at 4.45am, you'll see it when you get up in the morning.
Last thought, for now, my main Linux rig does its daily database rebuild around that time (as in, /etc/cron.daily), and fairly clogs up its pipes in the process! It's old and quite slow, and it sorts itself out again when the database has been rebuilt. Look for slowish *NIX systems on your LAN doing similar things. Oh wait a minute, isn't IPCop a Linux-based firewall? Hmm.
Stepgeb, whatever settings you put into the unit will still be there when you switch it on in the morning, IF, and this is crucial, you COMMIT THEM. In other words, do commit in a telnet session, or click one of those red save buttons in the web interface.
As to disabling it, that's easy enough, though it's probably best to instead create one rule allowing all traffic to flow in both directions, there are a few examples kicking around here.
You know, with Mac OS X, you probably don't even need one firewall, let alone two!
note: when you power-cycle the router (switch off and on) a set of rules are re-inserted automatically. Perhaps it is these rules which are "messing it all up". They certainly interfere with my traffic. Check out the public archives for a script (called "rad") which can delete them in one stroke. The NIX version should run fine in a Mac shell, you could even put it on a cron, have it run regularly, or at least every morning, sometime just after you connect.
Most folk just leave the thing on 24/7.
File-sharing, and all that..
Dale, £97!?! Wha? Mine was only twenty, and that was years ago; PC World do them for a tenner these days. You really needed 24 ports?
for now..
;o)
Stepgeb: Go to Advanced -> IP Routing -> NAT -> NAT Options -> NAT Virtual Server/DMZ and create an entry for Rule flavour = DMZ with IP Address set to the IP addy of your firewall. This tells the 205 to forward all incoming traffic to your firewall.
cor: Thanks for the reply. I didn't ask my ISP to comment on my system - I asked them if they did any housekeeping that could affect my connection. I've ruled out anything on my own firewall/network by simply changing the time on the firewall and server by 15 minutes - the problem still occurs at 04:45. I've yet to change the 205's time accordingly - I'll do that tonight.
What do I have to watch on the telnet session you suggest? (There must be more to it than simply opening a static telnet session?).
Contention could be a problem - it only needs someone else on my local BT adsl card to, for example, download all the headers in a few binary newsgroups at 4:45 every day to have an effect. Unlikely it's true but what else is there? The slowdown is definite and happens every day (not sure exactly when it started - I haven't checked - but for about the last 3 weeks.)
Thanks.
Thanks, that worked great.
Now a new problem has turned up
Every so often, about every 2hrs (been happening for today - bought it yesterday) the modem will not access the internet. Everything appears fine, but I can't do anything, I type in http://192.168.1.1 in the browser - it doesn't load, i type in telnet 192.168.1.1 in terminal, it just stays blank while it tries to connect. I have to resort to turning it off and on again. Any idea why this is happening?
Stepgeb: See the "Essential tweaks" section above for keep-alive and time-out.
Hi, I am using Emule on a desktop and a recently purchased notebook. I have had Emule set up & working perfectly for months now, green arrows & high id etc on the desktop. However, on the notebook I can only get yellow arrows & low id with Emule. I've followed all the info on this site about making the Voyager 205 secure, I've opened ports in the firewall & created NAT rules etc. For Emule this is what I have:
firewall:
create ipf rule entry ruleid 4662 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq tcp destport eq num 4662 seclevel high medium low
create ipf rule entry ruleid 4672 ifname public dir in act accept transprot eq udp destport eq num 4672 seclevel high medium low
nat:
create nat rule entry ruleid 4662 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.3 lcladdrto 192.168.1.3 destportfrom num 4662 destportto num 4662
create nat rule entry ruleid 4672 rdr lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.3 lcladdrto 192.168.1.3 destportfrom num 4672 destportto num 4672
The 192.168.1.3 is the desktop address which is on USB, my notebook is on Ethernet & the address is 192.168.1.4
I tried creating Nat rules with the notebook address but cant get a high id. I've tried using static ip's but it makes no difference & the ip's are always the same everytime anyway, they never change!
In the rules above, am I able to use lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.3 lcladdrto 192.168.1.4 Would this give me a range of ip's for both pcs?, I cant find anything on how I go about setting up two computers with NAT rules, do I have to create separate rules or can the existing rules for the desktop be edited to also work with the notebook? Sorry, I am fairly new to routers etc.
Thanks.
cheers fur reply Cor...my net and phone have been down fur a week noo so i just read yer reply aboot 210 config (friday 7th april).i`ll try help in the telnet session as suggested n let ye ken how i go.let me know if ye have a look at config n whit ye think...cheers bud...later:-)
Hello there!
Just a quickie really.
I have a BT Voyager 205 router connected to a BT Voyager 1500 which I use as a wirless access point. Problem is every now and again I cant connect to the internet and when I go and check the 205 all the lights are a solid green. Usually if I restart it after then it'll run fine for another few days but it would be handy to just know what is causing it and what could be done to stop it.
Any advice would be much appreciated!
Cheers guys
R*
Ignore my post, I've solved the problem. I just needed to change port numbers. All working fine now
Cor:
Hello m8.
Hope all is well in your world.
Just a quick!
Ive had no prob's at all with my 205 cfg'or internet connection,thanks to you and your teaching.
I have been running 2 64bit systems, os'Win'XP Pro'
Along with 2 32bit MP Raid systems, os'Win'Serever 2003.
All networked, runs like a dream no prob's
For ages now i had been trying to find the time to install
Win.XP 64Bit edition on the 2 systems.
Yesterday made the time and set about the install.
It all went great,no snaggs.Setup router+ip cfg's on network in the same way ive done 100 times before,and it runs like shit?.Yet the 32bit systems are still
great.
Do you know of any prob's or bugs with the Win.64Bit os'?
Ive done all sorts but still the same.
Regards Joker
TELNET problem
i enter login as ADMIN
but when password appears i cant type anything in at all...
its like my keyboard wont work...what am i doing wrong?
skiss: you are not doing anything wrong - your password characters do NOT get displayed - just type them normally and press Return at the end - you'll login if it was correct and not otherwise. The system is hiding your password from prying eyes...
BTW ADMIN or admin? Your password will be rejected if you have Caps Lock on. You'll find that, though small, these are *real* systems which are case sensitive...
Surf's Up! Nope, that's all there is to it. Open it, and leave it open! As for the contention, no way one user doing anything could affect your speeds so much, otherwise all our internets would die the instant our neighbours downloaded the latest MSN, or checked their email!
Contention sucks, but it's not that bad!
skiss, try reading the page! Especially those big notes in bold.
Joker, I wish I could help m8, but my experience of 64-bit Windows is zero. I still haven't got that p4 up yet!
Redstaar, ensure you have a recent firmware (>= v1.6) and have applied the tweaks (above). Grab one of the ready-made script from the archive to short-cut the latter. If you still have troubles, check out the troubleshooter (link right abouve these comments).
for now..
;o)
yea, errr not sure if i'm making a fool of myself here, but you don't know who i am so i'll carry on, (and i'm just trying to help :P )
i had BT broadband also, and when i changed ISP's i couldn't get my voyager 205 to work, so after much desperation, calling those fucks and them telling me they couldn't help me, and calling the voyager helpline which is full of stupid answer messages, i went to the voyager homepage, and thought hmmmm, if i enter my login details for my isp in the connect screen (not the admin/admin one) maybe it will connect to the number i want, if that makes sense, and it did.
so that works, if you guys already know that, sorry, but anyway, i'm not a whole lot technical, but i figured that out myself.
peace.
The router still doesn't work sometimes - even after I type in the code and save it. Usually it happens when I either log into another user, or turn off - then on the computer.
Any ideas?
Stepgeb, have you seen the troubleshooting page? It sounds like you either haven't applied the tweaks, or are overloading the unit with connexions. Feel free to mail me your config; I could have a we scan over it; see if there's anything obvious.
Did you go the DMZ route? I don't trust 'em. Better with zipb or a simple single rule passing all traffic through. Another thing; if you are switching the unit off at night (why Oh why?) are you remembering to run "rad" in the morning?
MePHa, thanks dude! I guess you didn't spot the tricks page.
;o)
I've got a Voyager 205 connected to a Voyager 1500 WiFi router. It seems to work ok however I play World of Warcraft and every now and then I get disconnected from the server; varies from 1-2 an evening to every 5 - 10 mins. Sometimes the internet is locked but more often than not I still have internet. One thing I have noticed is that when I try to repair the connection it gets stuck on refreshing the IP address. I suspect I am missing something in the configuration.
Any help appreciated. Ideally a definitive guide to configuring these two devices would be great.
Cheers,
Trying to setup the Web Server on Port 80 from my main pc 192.168.1.6 (Set to Static IP) Follow everything on your troubleshooter page to no avail.
Web Server Works fine on the internal LAN. However connecting to my WAN IP of via the DNS service gives me the Voyagers configuration page even though I have asked this not to be availiable via the WAN (by using both the web interface to do this or by "modify mtcl access httpwanaccess disable") Local Firewall is off too!
Cecking your port scan on port 80 with apache server running on 192.168.1.6 gives success, stop the apache server and this fails. Similar story with (http://tools.rosinstrument.com/proxy/)
It seems to be the Router and its configuration page getting in the way.
I'm looking to demonstrate a Uni project this month and need my webserver accessible externally to do so please help!!!
Thanks in advance
Right I have set up my Voyager router in line with this guide and as far as I can see I ought to be cooking with gas.
However when I try to hook it up thorugh my linksys wireless router (to have the net through several different pcs ect) it just seems to time me out and I can never connect to sites. Arrgghh.
Anyone got any idea why?
ferrettbadger: this problem has been mentioned/solved quite a few times before. Search for my posts on this page or read/try my tactic described at end of this page.
bt voyager 2100-vpn connection
I am trying to get a vpn connection to my office which has a voyager 2100 router. I have openend port 1723 but still having problems.getting code 800 error.
any suggestions?
Hi Cor,
I've noticed a problem with my setup.
If I allow my xbox 360 into the DMZ on 192.168.1.5 then not one of my other port rules work. I only noticed this morning when downloading from azures and I realised my NAT was firewalled according to the test. As soon as I removed the DMZ rule for the xbox hey presto! my NAT is open and I can receive incoming connections.
Whilst it might seem obvious that I should just allow UDP/TCP ports for 88/3074 in the public area and not the DMZ when I do this my Xbox is "strict" and it will only allow me to connect to certain games, and disconnects often. As soon as it's in the DMZ the Xbox becomes "Open" and I can play anyone and it never disconnects.
Is this just a case of removing the DMZ whenever I need to download from a P2P app or similar and then re-instating it afterwards, or is there a way around this.
What should I do?
starfox, have you applied all the tweaks? If not, check out the ready-made scripts.
Luther, read this, slowly.
babs, try the other page. I know nothing of this unit.
Chris, DMZ's are generally bad news. Search around here for "perfect stealth", I believe I even have a ready-made script for it!
;o)
Ta Cor, read the page again slowly, found the bit about loopback, plugged the mobile into the laptop dialled up and hey presto, Webserver works externally.
Your site Rocks man, keep up the good work. Cheers.
nice one Luther!
In fact, you had already solved your own problem when you said..
your port scan on port 80 with apache server running on 192.168.1.6 gives success
I mention this because I need to sketch some copy for the future tricks page, something important..
All, I use this sort of facility all the time - not my port probe, as it runs on my workshop dev server at my left leg here, and quite useless for testing *my* external connectability, though it will happily test yours - but similar facilities.
Let me explain. Proxies are a pain, and I almost never use them. But I do regularly find myself asking things like,
"how does this look from outside?"
It may be simply a question of connectivity, or it may be that I'm testing some .htaccess tweak, or my mail server's relay capabilities, or whatever. Somewhere out there, is a site that will do this test for you, in some form or another.
Check out the very bottom-right and bottom-left of all the new-fangled yellow pages here at the org. You will see links to the W3C xhtml validation page and css validation pages. Sending either of those to a URL on my internal server will not only test outside connectivity, but, with the correct GET variables, throw up the entire rendered source code. Another site can check your cacheability, another your mail relaying, another your speed, etc., etc. Use them!
All these services (and there are thousands more like them) need to make full and valid requests to your internal servers, and so to a large degree, replicate the actions of a regular user. And throw up wads of useful information into the bargain.
So, a proxy may be a neat way to test "from outside", but usually; and I run quite a number of varied servers here; say, nine times out of ten, I head for the "tools" folder in my Firefox bookmarks. I like simple.
Serve and Protect, Luther, but mostly Serve!
;o)
Hiya
I have a BT Voyager 205 router/modem connected to my ethernet card.
I play mostly BF2 and occasionally Joint Ops and JO:Escalation.
After patching to the latest BF2 (v1.22) I found I had all sorts of problems in BF2...high pings showing on server list, extreme lag while in game etc. My average ping in BF2 (on European servers) is normally low 20's. After patching, it shot up to 100-200 +.
Also servers were showing with min pings of 100-150.
I tried everything inc manually updating punkbuster, having PB as a separate installation and adding BF2, Jo etc and updating but to no avail. Finally after reading up a little on the BT 205, I upgraded the firmware from 1.1 to 1.8 and that solved my BF2 problem. The ping shot back down to low 20's and the server lists showing 37 ping and higher.
In BF2, selecting one server then another to look at refreshed pings and player slots free etc would be a very slowl process and take ages. Also only a small amount of servers were showing (135, 406 etc instead of thousands!) But I was willing to put up with that just to be able to play.
'Joint Ops' didnt connect atall to the servers and resulted in a timeout error when trying (NWEC02)
I read up similar problems people had with BF2 and tried some telnet settings to my router. Trouble is I cant find Router settings that both games will live with!
The Telnet Router settings default (that are applicable to BF2 and JO!) are....
telnet://192.168.1.1/
modify nbsize maxipsess 192
modify nat global udptimeout 300
commit
reboot
------------------------------------
With custom setting...
modify nbsize maxipsess 512
modify nat global udptimeout 4
BF2 works fine but JOTR wont connect to servers and I get the 'NWEC02' error.
When changing the 'global udptimeout' to from 15 upwards, JOTR will connect to servers but BF2 will not show many servers when updating the list.
It's very difficult to get a happy medium.
Does anyone know how to make both games happy as far as playing online and listing servers etc.
Is there any other telnet commands or settings that might help make both games (and maybe others!) work online without too much difficulty?
Any info would be appreciated
TazUK
Hi people. I have big probs with shareaza on a 205 voyager.
I've configured static IP's, The router manager and shareaza itself for weeks now, But i just cannot d/l anything whatsoever. It connects (edonkey & gnutella 1&2) and seems to be uploading sometimes, It's doing my brain in as i never had this problem on my voyager 105 on aol.
I'm using bt broadband on a 1 meg connection, I would use my old 105 but it does'nt seem to work on bt internet.
Some help someone please before i go bald from tearing my hair out!!!! I'm sick of using msn to trade......lol
Thanks guys/gals, Djdat
You may be pleased to know that BT are now recomending against using USB for their 8MB broadband (http://www.faster.bt.com/what-you-need.asp)
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or how to cheat please help i now some ways but I did'nt make it please answer to my mail
Hi Cor,
I, like Chris from above, are having some issues with opening the NAT with my Xbox360.
Previously i have connected to the 205 with an ethernet port and made a dmz on ths static ip "192.168.1.5", typed that into the xbox and it has worked great. But now i'm wanting to connect the usb to may laptop which then shares the connection to my xbox through the ethernet port. Now, whilst everything works and i can get onto the Live service, it says my Nat is "strict". I have tried setting up a dmz on a static ip again but it still says "strict". The strange thing is, first time i tried it i only needed to turn off all my firewall to allow the Nat to open, but now it just says strict whatever i do. I hope you can help.
Thanks in advance,
-Jim
My friend is with plusnet provider and has a USB modem. I got him a 205 and I have a problem. The 205 works with a windows 2000 machine. However I have tried it with three different XP machines and I cannot get it to talk to the machine. All the lights on the front of the modem light up.
Any ideas?
uPnP is needed if setting up for example an xbox to run off the router otherwise you'll only be able to either run in strict mode on the router or sh@t connections on Azures etc, as soon as uPnP is enabled, hey presto! providing you setup the port rules it'll do the IP section for you and both work.
Near perfect stealth doesn't work and neither does putting your console in the DMZ.
After updating the firmware to v1.8 I found the only two ways to get into the advance settings page through the web interface in windows was to either completely uninstall Norton Internet Security (I tried lots of different firewall settings etc before uninstalling)or alternatively use linux live CD.
I have a little problem setting up DDNS for my DynDNS free dynamic account: the router refuses my MX record name because the string is too long (it seems to accept only 14 chars, but mine takes 16)! Any workaround?
cant get the telnet to work from your link cmd box opens then closes in the blink of an eye ,, if i go to sys32 folder and run telnet there it works but will not connect to router any ideas
Ive got a problem setting up zipb mode to work with my linksys wrt54g router running the dd-wrt firmware. The linksys gets the WAN ip and everything seems to be in order but none of the clients seem to be able to get access to the WAN. Ive tried it a few times but to no avail. I did read somewhere that you need to specify the username and password in the second routers connection settings but as far as my understanding goes this should be handled by the voyager.
Anyway I think there is a routing problem happening on the part of the linksys router as its effectivly running linux and you did mention there were some hassles. Im running a double NAT setup right now but I dont really like the idea of it.
Any help much appreciated!
futret: Read my post vof - 10.04.06 10:12 pm and try the non-zipb approach it suggests.
vof: thats how im running it now :( I just want to get the wan ip on to the linksys so im only doing NAT once on the network. I read about just using bridge mode and using PPPoE to connect to the isp but I dont think my ISP (BT) support this.
i got 1 off them
uh i can get into the advanced drop down menu but when ever i click a link nothing happens =/ the quick start page just continously refreshes...
hi i amnewtoall thissohere goes,yes ihave a voyager 205 but i dont get all this like i said i am new to this, i got a pc and want to get access to it from the net, i using winxp pro and iis as my server thingy i can put in my modems ip address ans get access to it but i cant link it to my pc how do i do this in simple terms? many thanks stepnage
Reply to "None":
If none of the links work it means you have a firewall or pop-up blocker of some description blocking the java application from showing you the page. If you have norton or any other firewall, turn it off whilst looking in your router and also make sure that windows firewall is disabled.
Is there anyway to set up a firewall on the router which i can put on extremely high but an option to enter an ip for an imbound connection which would be "trusted" and allow all sharing and everything?
TazzyUK, I'm no gamer, so I can't comment on what time-out settings each prefers, tough generally speaking, low is better, up to a point. If you are connecting with servers across the atlantic with UDP, a small time-out will kill the connexion because there's simply not enough time for the packets to get there and back. So, location is a factor. Tried Gamespy?
Anyways, nomatter what you do, keep the maxipsess figure high (like 511)
Djdat, perhaps clients and trackers are simply banning you, shareaza is a P.O.S, and I know some torrent trackers that ban it by default. The one I'm working on certainly will.
Try the default+p2p ready-made config from the public archives. It doesn't have shareaza, but the ports are likely covered, as you probably know, shareaza is just a shameful rip-off of other, superior clients, not to mention the sign of a true leech-o-matic internet user. Also it steals your file associations be default *grr* (unless that mail I sent them last year actually sunk in). Nuff said.
For general p2p use, consider eMule.
For torrents, try Azureus (aka. "azzy").
These, and other rather good file sharing applications are already built-in to the ready-made config. Have fun!
Alex, they updated their installation leaflet along these lines a few months back, too, there's a scan of it kicking around here somewhere. No credit for us, though!
milan, not only are you on the wrong page, and the wrong site, I suspect the wrong planet, too. Cheat? wtf is the point of playing a game if you are gonna cheat?
Jim, I read your post three times but I still don't get it. I spotted the words "dmz" advice: avoid. and "usb" advice: avoid; it's for digi-cams and keyboards. Further advise: get a switch.
Simple fact: anyone with more than a single peecee needs a switch (or a hub, if you're really cheap).
Chris, explain how perfect stealth doesn't work, please. If you forward all ports to the xbox, it effectively becomes a controlled dmz box with the facility of placing port-forwarding rules *before* the dmz, enabling p2p, servers, etc. to work on other LAN boxes. How can this not work? Or did you mean my config?
(by the way, deleting "magicnum 2" from the end of the system line is something I might do to them all)
And NOTHING *requires* UPnP. Period.
brendan, yes, "completely uninstall Norton Internet Security" is something I heartily recommend.
Mirko, I wasn't aware that the ddns fields only accepted 14 characters. How strange. I don't, therefore, know of any workaround. Most folk try to go for short domains, I guess they figured no one would need more than 14. How short-sighted!
If I were you, I'd setup a wee cron job on a local *nix box. I have a perl script kicking around here that does the job rather nicely.
pete1001, "will not connect" is not a specific error code that I know of. Is that really what telnet said?
none, check the troubleshooting page (link at the top of this page)
stepnage, you'll need to start again.
Firstly disable IIs (because allowing access from the internet AND running IIs is basically insane) and install Apache.
The Apache installer is rather good. If you need php, mysql, etc, consider "WAMP", which installs everything-in-one, and is good.
Then go to the recipes page and follow the recipe for a web server. This assumes you have already applied the tweaks here, etc. Probably the easiest way to do that is to download onr of the "ready-made" configs (links above these comments).
There isn't one for a web server, but you could either a) edit one of the others, say the FTPd config, or else throw in the default+stealth config and simply add the port-forwarding rules afterwards. They are fully explained on the recipes page, along with tips and tricks and other stuff. Have fun!
ho hum..
My own connexion has been dismal this last couple of weeks, though sadly I haven't had the time to troubleshoot it properly, I can't even stay connected to IRC, not that I've been around much. It's too complicated to relate, but in the process of "replacing everything", I transformed an old laptop that was kicking around (the screen was smashed, removed, for the bin, basically) into a rather smart Linux firewall appliance (IPCoP), something that's been in the back of my mind for a very long time.
It turns out the trouble wasn't the router after all, three separate modems confirm this. Looks like I may be migrating again soon.
Bottom line: I'm sticking with the IPCoP, because I'm mighty impressed with it! Instead of struggling with limits, I find myself with limitless possibilities; whatever I want; spam filtering, traffic management, transparent proxy, realtime packet stats, caching dns server; whatever. It's Linux, so you just drop in what you need.
IPCoP comes on one CD; basically you go from a dead peecee to a fully-fledged internet gateway in about fifteen minutes. After that it works just like an appliance; you switch it on, or better yet; leave it on.
Sure, the whole rig may be exactly four times bigger than the 205, but still slim enough to slip out of the way somewhere; no monitor required - setup is through a web interface, just like the 205 except better! - and you can get in and change it, too1.
A twenty quid second-hand laptop is perfectly adequate2.
It's unlikely I'll be plugging in the 205 ever again!
The future of this area of the site is uncertain.
;o)
I'm moving to South West France shortly, and I hope to arrange Broadband with Wanadoo. I don't much like the look of their Livebox, and wanted to use my Voyager 205 with a wireles router (D-Link), which works fine in the UK. Does anyone know if there would be any problems with this setup? Many thanks for your great site, incidentally - nothing like it!
France, you should be good to go, yup, no problem. You will need an alternative DC adaptor to power the 205, but that will be easy enough to obtain (16V @ 1A [16VA]). You will need to edit the user/pass, of course, and the VC settings, too..or something like that (8/35, as opposed to 0/38 for the UK).
Having said all that, I've had a chance to play with a couple of wanadoo liveboxes, and they are impressive units, essentially a linux firewall router in-a-box, and the box glows with a cool light, too. You can do all sorts with them, once you get into them.
But yes, the 205+wireless router should work just fine. And if you run into any troubles, vof's posts (above) will surely get you back on track.
;o)
Many thanks for this: maybe I should reconsider the Livebox option, but of course I wouldn't even start to get the kind of support that your website provides for the 205!
Hi
Ok I am a technophobe! I have purchased this router, have a PC in my daughters bedroom with usb and an ethernet connection.
Have Pc downstairs with ethernet and usbs but would prefer to connect the upstairs one (via eternet)as i have a long ethernet cable cat.5. I have a BT installation cd but am wondering if I need this atall and can just install relevant drivers. I have tried using the cd but keeps asking for a bt address and password.
what installation order do i need?
shall i let xp configure?
do we need dail up info?
Please help
Hi Cor
Hope you can help me... my problem is this. I'm a Day of Defeat junkie and cannot get my fix. I'd XP running and after three years without a fresh install it had gone to the dogs.
Like many others on here, I'd been sharing the 205 with someone else (flatmate) but she has just moved out, freeing up the ethernet for me! Whoopee, fresh install of XP, ditch the rubbish USB cable and away we go! Or so I thought :-(
Post-install machine is fast again but Dod is weird as can be. I'm getting info on a LOT more servers than I was, the peecee connects fine, downloads any .wav etc files I haven't got from the host... then just freezes, eventually timing out, while precaching. I've tweaked the timeouts in Dod (which is user defined) but this has made no difference. I suspect there's a problem in the way the peecee is talking to the 205 (although I've set 192.168.1.3 as fixed IP for the peecee) as quite a few other websites have suggested this as a cause - but yours is the only one that even suggests it might have a solution!
I've tried your troubleshooter page and a couple of your prewritten settings jobbies, tried port forwarding with your model rules and I've upgraded firmware from 1.6 to 1.8 but nothing has worked so far. Am I missing something? When setting the port forward rules, am I supposed to commit and reboot or something? Please slap me hard if that's the case...
Any help greatly appreciated, before you slip off into IPCop land. Looks like 205 ownership is gonna be a LOT TOUGHER if you leave us to the mercy of BT!!
Thanks, France, maybe I'll see about picking up a livebox myself, do a wee page!
Dippy, as I've said so many times on this page.. GET A SWITCH! (I love shouting that!) No, you don't need the CD's, the drivers, or any of that BT nonsense; all you need is a switch, and another Cat5 cable, probably.
Don't be tempted, as many are, to connect both USB AND Ethernet on the 205; it's headache city. A decent ethernet switch1 makes everything easy, and if you have more than one device connecting to the internet, really, it's an essential investment.
Lastly, you can get a brand new switch for around a tenner. Check out the useful links section above these comments. Once you have your switch, just follow the guides here and you'll be setup in no time. The troubleshooting page (link at the top) is your friend, especially that checklist at the bottom. As are the ready-made configs.
Nobby, it sounds to me like your connection table is filling up. But you say you've tried some of the ready-made scripts (where it is tweaked to the max 511) and the time-outs, too. Hmm. Did you tweak the time-outs in the 205? Try this..
export a working config (and make a back-up copy, of course)
tweak it to bits
upload it again
You can do the whole thing in the web interface (which is easier than ftp, for most). If the config is accepted, the unit reboots immediately and the web page hangs, so you have to stop it manually. If it is not accepted, you get an error message, try again. Before you export, remember to fix the current settings with commit.
And yes, if you are making port-forwarding rules, you need to do commit afterwards. This makes them stick, prevents them getting wiped if the unit ever reboots. But new rules will work from almost as soon as you enter them, and even if you don't commit, they will still be working right up until you reboot the thing. This makes it easy to test rules without setting anything in stone.
Generally I don't commit until I'm 100% certain that something is working, and then I do it right away. And then I backup the config (make a bookmark of the link, above).
I recommend opening a telnet session to the router, and then firing up the game. Any error conditions will be reported in the console, so you may get a clue as to exactly what's happening.
for now..
;o)
cor: the GET A SWITCH!!! useful link is now u/s - they've changed the asp name - use this instead.
Ahh, cheers, vof. Fixed. And I added a back-up switch link, too, in case this changes again, very likely.
You know, if I teamed up with some switch manufacturer, I could probably get a nice commission, everyone needs a switch or two.
ta.
;o)
This is a great resource!
I have a question, is it possible to reboot the BT Voyager 205 from the Web interface?
My Voyager 205 is in a remote location (500 miles away!) and I do virtually all the monitoring and configuration via Telnet over the Internet.
Twice now (over the period of a few months) the telnet interface has become unresponsive, however the router is doing everything else fine - can still access servers behind it etc, including accessing a RDP session on one of the servers behind it - this allows me to access the web interface of the router from "inside" (web interface is not enabled for outside). However I cannot find a way to reboot the router via the web interface - the closest was "Reset" but that I think would set it back to defaults, hence my question is it possible to use the web interface to issue a command similar to telnet's "reboot".
Thanks in advance,
Marcus
hi
I have just installed my daughters pc and prepared for headache city as I couldn't afford to buy any more stuff (my daughter and i are both doing degrees so money is really tight, both 205 and cables have been donated to our cause). I have hers connected via ethernet and mine usb for which i installed the driver, i installed my daughters first and tweaked the router as suggested, also on usb properties asked it not to turn off power as suggested. Then hey presto it automatically connected. and we are both surfing as we speak, she has messenger going and me limewire and so far so good. If problems occur and I am expecting they might and I will have to take your advise, but what problems would i expect to see?
thanx great site!!!
Marcus, here's how I would do it over RDP..
- Go to the web interface, config backup page.
- save and export your current config.
Now you are ready to reboot any time by simply..- Going to the web interface, config backup page.
- import your saved config.
TADA!As noted above, the page just hangs, and you have to stop it manually. But unless you get an error message (unlikely, if you haven't tweaked the script between save and restore) then the unit is most certainly rebooting, and should re-appear in a few seconds.
dippy, so long as you both take things easy, it does actually work in that configuration. It's when you push it a bit that it all starts to fall apart. The USB interface generally taking precedence and knocking the ethernet connexion into a cock-hat.
But if you keep away from heavy p2p use (at least without some strict limits in place) and demanding multi-player games, you can get by like this, if things are really tight, financially. If you want to do more, you're probably looking to get a switch (which is a great investment, anyway), or perhaps a hub. I have an unused 2-port powered ethernet hub kicking around here, if you want to send me an addressed jiffy-bag with maybe a few stamps on it, it's yours by return post. A switch is better, though.
If you can get together a tenner (I know, student life can be tough) there's a nice unit going at Dabs right now, £9.43 inc. VAT. Check out "GET A SWITCH" link number two in the Useful Links section (above).
l*rz..
;o)
Hello Mr Cor
I had trouble recently with new computers connecting to the network - it would throw off the internet connection for all currently connected machines for a period of around 15 mins (or until I restart the Voyager 205).
The problem seemed to be due to the same IP being assigned to the 205's USB port (which I do not use), and my wireless access point (which also was not part of the circuit). However, having changed the IPs of both (to avoid any routing caches on the computers), I still see the problem.
For example, I have just put a wireless-connected laptop into hibernate mode. As soon as it went off line, the other two machines (one wireless, one wired) both starting timing out on pings to google. After about 15 seconds, pings resumed as normal.
When the machine was brought back out of hibernate mode, the other two machines' ping requests failed for around 3 minutes, and then began to erratically (and independantly of each other) be successful for 1 to ten requests at a time. After 15 minutes or so, the connections on all machines are working fine (with no intervention from me).
I've looked at all the Voyager 205 settings to try and fix the problem. I've also connected all machines via CAT5 cables to ensure the problem isn't caused by the WAP.
Have you any idea what might cause this?
Cheers
The Cowster
kay..here's the situation..i've listened to the enlightened advice about connecting an ethernet switch onto my 205..so now i have two computers getting online right now..i've done setting BOTH computers a static ip..done my ip forwarding..
1)the trouble is that when i type in "ipconfig /all" under command prompt...it still says that i don't have any ip routing...although it doesn't really affect my internet..but just simply bugs me..
2)i didn't pass the corz p2p port probe..strange things happened here..the test says connection refused..and the ip address appeared on test is somehow 86.140.96.138...NOT the static ip i assigned my computer to (i.e.192.168.1.3)..i done a bit of check around and found out that 86.140.96.138 is on my ip route table(205 web interface)..i suspect this is my external ip, NOT my private ip..so does that mean my nat rules are not functioning properly??i have configured the nat rules according to the recipe tho..wat went wrong??help pls~~~many thanks!
I recently installed a firmware upgrade on my 205. The configuration web page of the router said that the update was successful, but when I looked at the router, all of the lights were blinking, so unsure if the router was actually updating, or if I'd 'bricked' it, I turned off the router, unplugged every cable except the power cable from it, and when I turned it back on, only the power light came on, and no other lights came on, or even flashed. But when I inserted an Ethernet cable, all of the lights started flashing, and some times all of the lights would come on solid, even without connecting any Ethernet or USB cables. Have I damaged my 205 router?
Thanks Cor! could you let me have your address and I'll send jiffy bag, however everything does seem to be working, we don't use the PC's for gaming at all, just surfing for revision and leisure, occassionally downloading music, my daughter is doing a graphics design degree and I am doing a split degree computing and pyschology and we found we were fighting over one machine, I'd have to finish up so she could have access to the web.
thanks again, great site and really useful information.
Dips x
If anyone else finds that they frequently need to reboot their unit - I have found a quick way via the command line. It does mean you have to telnet into the box - which is not as quick as simply hitting the button on the back of the unit - but you get internet connectivity back much quicker this way. Typically a restart takes 4 seconds rather than the usual 60 or so.
In my (brief) experience, stopping and starting the ppp-0 interface is all that's required to restore internet connectivity (in my case, to 3 networked machines). If this does not work for you , I'm sorry.
To restart the ppp-0 interface you would have to type the following 2 commands, one after the other:
If you're a clumsy typer (like me) or not sufficiently retentive enough to remember cryptic syntax, then the good news is, you can substitute the above for a very brief command, like "go".
Firstly you have to create shell script. Just open notepad on your PC, drop in the two commands exactly as above, and save as (for example) restart.cfg
Next, FTP the file to your Voyager unit. Use the IP address of your unit as the "FTP site url", and your telnet login details as the FTP login. You can place the file in the root directory that appears when you connect.
Now that the file is on your unit, you can run it using the command:
Again, lots of typing. But we can get around this by creating an alias for this, as follows:
Note: Avoid using words like "restart", "stop", and "start" for your alias as these have special meanings and simply won't work (and besides, other things may stop working too)
Now all you have to do to restart your internet connection is simply
1) Telnet into your unit
2) Login as admin
3) Type "go"
Then wait four seconds...
For telnet I suggest using the great Putty terminal. Its free, and it is reliable although the interface is admittedly not the most intuitive). For FTP you can use LeechFTP.
Cheers
The Cowster
Anyone recommend a damn fine ADSL Router/modem?
I mean the best! or is that just purely down to peoples experiences?
You always get one or two that shine above the rest, easy to setup, damn reliable, squeezes every byte out of your line, ideal for gaming etc
secondary connection (like the 205 USB 2nd Connection!)is not 100% needed but would be handy!
Can the 205 be outpinged?
Taz
The Cowster, it certainly sounds like IP-related trouble. My first thought is that somehow the laptop and the 205's IPs are clashing. Or the 205 and the other router. Whatever it is, you want to a) ensure that the USB isn't created in the first place (export config - delete that line - import) and b) all the machines have static, or at least very well defined IP addresses.
Left to its own devices, a half-baked LAN setup will usually function okay after a few minutes; the protocols we use are stuffed with error-checking and fallback procedures, so they generally work things out between themselves, in the end. A correct setup is better, of course.
As for the restart commands, thanks, but, are you not aware that you can reconnect your ppp from the front page of the web interface?
rp <enter>
all done! You can do similar things on Windows, too (check out my shell scripts folder in the public archives) but it's not nearly so clean. Either way, you can reduce a whole set of commands, aliases, whatever, to a single command, or click, on your workstation.
Thanks for the putty recommendations, clearly you skipped over the useful links section! Though for ftp I usually recommend FlashFXP ("the unbeatable"), or for a free client, FileZilla is rather good.
Tyson, the golden rule of firmware/flash upgrades (of ANY hardware) is that you MUST, absolutely MUST WAIT until the process is complete. If you had a power-cut, for instance, in the middle of a firmware update, the unit would instantaneoulsy become no more than lightweight paper-weight.
But you say you saw the "update successful" page. Hmm. Because it sounds just like the process was interrupted somehow, and you now have a "brick". It may be possible to resurrect this brick, but since my own attempt, I haven't looked more deeply into the process. Check out the advanced page for loads of information about cables and what-not.
Got an old laptop lying around?
UCL 1. no IP routing? Of course you do! But if you want to see routing information outside the LAN, you'll need to check out the page on the 205.
2. OF COURSE the IP is reported as 86.140.96.138, that is/was your external IP address, the one the outside world sees. No one at the other side of the gateway (the 205) can see your private IP addresses, which is what makes them private, like all the other 192.168.1.whatever IP's out there, of which there are millions, all happily separated from each other by internet NAT's and gateway devices like the 205.
Go read the pages here again, I give a rather good explanation of how NAT operates on this very page!
If the connexion was refused, it most likely means that the server in question wasn't running, or the port was incorrect, or something like that. Double-check everything, run through the troubleshooter (Link above these comments) and ensure everything is as you expect. Probably it's some minor error in your rules.
Dippy, for light usage, it's workable; I wouldn't worry too much. By the way, the address is on my contact page.
TazzyUK, for me the answer is surely becoming "IPCoP". Perhaps you spotted the link further up my post, click it! Every dedicated adsl router has limits of some kind, whether it be memory, connections, no WiFI, whatever. By using an old computer as a dedicated gateway, you not only remove these limits, but open yourself up to a whole new world of possibility..
You want WiFi? No problem, just add a dongle! irDA? Hey! Mine's built-in! Whatever you want is now possible. My gateway is an old laptop1 with no screen (it got smashed), too expensive to repair, but perfect for this job (once IPCoP is setup, you don't need a keyboard, a monitor, or anything.). It does the firewalling, routing, NAT, etc., etc. Recently I added spam-filtering and transparent proxying into the mix.
With a real *nix system doing the job, you can build and customize the firewall appliance (and it does behave just like an appliance; switch it on, it does the rest) exactly to your needs. Yesterday I put a fake identd server on the thing. What a great idea! Serves the whole LAN. Now try that with an out-of-the-box router!
Still not convinced? Okay, bottom line, to purchase a dsl gateway with the sort of functionality I've just described (and I've only described a tiny fraction of what it actually does; I've said nothing of my unlimited DDNS updates, snort intrusion detection system, virus filtering, time server, dynamic graphing, real ssh and secure https access, traffic shaping, caching dns server, vpn, true security "zones", DMZ, etc., etc.) would cost you well over a hundred quid. With IPCoP, you can do it for ten or twenty, or free; if you have an old peecee lying around; most folk seem to these days.
And in the future, when you need some new functionality; instead of trashing your now-out-of-date router and shelling out for a better model, you just add what you need to your IPCoP box.
The more I think about it, the more I feel that build-your-own is the way to go for gateways - and if you are using a pre-built puter, or laptop, you can go from zero to fully functioning gateway in around ten minutes - a one-time setup. After that, it just works.
It seems to me that an incredible amount of hardware is currently being manufactured, when so much older hardware lies unused and abandoned. The environmental impact of our "internet boom", when it's all summed up, will likely be staggering, and the quicker we all switch to some kind of sustainable gateway platform, the better, for everyone.
There isn't a city in the world where one can't pick up a capable computer for around a tenner2. And the old, "useless" laptop that is capable of firewalling a busy LAN today, will still be capable of that same task tomorrow, and the next year, unlike so many of the dedicated units that come "free with your broadband". There is no such thing as a free lunch, and it is our children and theirs that will pay for our current short-sighted approach.
So, in my humble opinion, the "best" device (an IPCoP or similar Firewall Appliance) is in every way, "the best". Best for you, best for your network, and most importantly, best for our environment. Note the use of the word "our".
for now..
;o)
I was looking for wireless router setting for Madasafish ISP, I couldnt find it, but I went through the static ip info and others and I thought it was very clear and useful site to keep for reference. thanks
Hi
can i prioritize connections ie ethernet or usb through the router?
First of all, I apologise because I don't really know much about networks. All I know at the moment is that this damn modem ain't user friendly.
I'm running two PCs in this house. The first (and main) is an XP machine connected to the ethernet port of the modem. The second is a 2k machine connected to the USB port. I have set up static IPs (the XP machine is 192.168.1.200 and the other is .201) and all the necessary port forwarding is send to the .200 machine.
I can do everything that I want online, and all the port forwarding seems to be working. However when I try to do any kind of LAN games the computers cannot see each other. Only games where you can specify an IP can you actually play together. If it is a game where you just join a LAN lobby or whatever it just doesn't work. The computers are in the same workgroup.
Now honestly, I am a total idiot when it comes to this, so I don't know if its a problem with the router or the net setup or 2k/XP conflict or whatever but any hints to send me in the right direction would be marvelous.
Would it just be easier for me to get a better router that has 2 ethernet ports?
Thanks for your words earlier. Sound as ever :-)
I just noticed this on the BT site:
"The BT Voyager 205 Router is a state of the art ADSL Router that lets you connect up to 2 computers or a games console to your ADSL line."
TWO?!? Surely not? If so that might explain my problems with using 3 computers on the same network. But I doubt it. Restarting the ppp interface shouldn't resolve the problems I have with IP traffic on my network - but it does.
But before I go out and buy another one of these "state of the art" devices, I thought I better check that someone else has used this device with more than 2 networked machines. Its not completely unbelievable that BT might have restricted the number of NAT'd connections to 2.
Cheers
Andy
Dippy, nope. And, if anything, the unit is weighted towards the USB, one reason we try to avoid using it.
No, Kast, it would better for you to GET A SWITCH!
The Cowster, they just mean directly, ie. it has two sockets. If you use a switch, or series of switches, there is no limit to the number of machines that could access the net via the 205, thousands anyway; simply create more virtual subnets when you fill the first 255 IP slots.
Of course, a thousand users will likely max out the 205's wee connexion table pretty quick, so in practical terms, any more than ten or twenty would probably be pushing it. An 8MB connexion would help, of course.
I usually have three machines on the LAN, sometimes four. But there have been times when, temporarily, many more machines have simultaneously utilized the 205's services.
And before you go and splash out on a new state-of-the-art device, instead ask yourself, "Do I have an old puter kicking around the place, something on which I could install IPCoP?" There are many IPCoPs out there protecting thousands of computers, so it's certainly very scalable.
all..
Nowadays, my 205 sits at 192.168.1.205, for if I need to test stuff, like this new version of RAD.. If you have a 205, you probably need RAD, so grab this and tell me what you think..
for now..
;o)
So the best way forward is to put all the computers into a switch, then put that into the 205? Is the 205 good enough for that to be worthwhile. Would it be easy enough to set up?
Hi,
My aging parent has a 205 router and when I try to connect to his computer after receiving a remote assistance request (quite often!)I'm getting blocked.
Any suggestions on how to overcome this would be greatfully received!
Boardy
That's about the size of it Kast..
INTERNET >> 205 >> SWITCH >> EVERYTHING ELSE
And yes, it's a no-brainer; you just plug everything into the switch. The 205 is "good enough", yes. Unless you are all planning on playing multi-player games, or something. For regular usage, on a nice fast 8MB connexion, the 205 could happily handle a dozen or more users.
The connexion limit is the bottleneck, but so long as you can keep everything within 511 connexions (and have appllied the tweak to raise it from the default, 192) the 205 runs great. Served me well for over a year.
I keep saying this, but a Switch is an essential investment for anyone who has, or will have more than one device connected to the internet. Once you have one, you can't live without it. If mine ever blew up, I'd starve for a week to get another.
Boardy, check the recipes page. You need to add a port-forwarding rule (or pair of rules, rather; one firewall, one NAT). Any of the TCP rules will suit your needs, I recommend you take the generic rule and simply replace the port for port 3389.
As it's an aging parent, I threw this together for you. I figured anyone that need remote assistance, probably wouldn't be able to create port-forwarding rules, so this application will do it for him.
It assumes that his computer is at IP 192.168.1.3 which it should be by default (on a virgin router attached to one computer using DHCP) or else have him make it so.
As far as I know, you can initiate remote desktop connexions via messenger without using port-forwarding, but I've not tested that.
Anyways, have him run this, and all should be well.
It's based on the RAD code (it only took me a minute to alter that to our needs) which works well. The default IP address/user/password are already setup, so hopefully he should just have to click OK a couple of times and he'll be up and running, or rather, you will.
Have fun!
;o)
Thank you for the considerable time and trouble you have taken re the 205 router. I have found it an invaluable source of help. I am distinctly unimpressed with BT. The lack of common decency in providing a genuine user guide, not even on their sales obssessed web site reflects really badly on a major British PLC.This company does not appear to understand that the way to make long term profits is to meet and enhance the customers requirements. I will be buying some Scotch Whiskey (the truth - I am not pulling your leg) to recover from BT and their BT Yahoo Software which installed itself automatically on my system (With my software configuration I would never have accepted but they did not bother to tell me) and an unexpected update - without my permission, that further destabilized and made my system even more error prone. I have found the unwanted browser and other stuff constantly trying to take over, including at key intervals, which could have been fatal for my pc.BT really sucks in the words of one web site. If BT do not improve, they will go the way of GEC which an incompetent management ruined. Asking router type questions has proved to be a joke with their so called technical support. Once again thank you for the considerable time and trouble you have taken
Andrew Fagley, thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts.
It's a sad fact that most folk end up here after they start to have troubles, and after they have inserted that daft CD. If they came here first, they would know that this was not only a mistake, but a completely unnesessary one. Och well.
As for BT, who can say what the future holds? I know that they have some excellent and highly capable staff, but I also know that these are in the minority. People are getting more savvy, less willing to be taken to the cleaners, but BT have a firm hold in the back-end of things, and if their ISP operation ever fails, and that's not so unlikely given their current track-record, they still have a massive and highly sustainable business selling the services underneath.
Being so big, I guess they change slowly, and nowhere does this reflect so badly on them as in their customer support. It's always been fairly lousy, of course, but these days that simply won't do; switching ISP's is just a click away, and loyalty to corporations is strictly for the employees. It's not so hard to take BT completely out of your telecoms equation, either, have your line supplied by another. I'm looking at a new line+broadband package right now.
Some might argue that BT has done so much to "enable" millions of folk to get on-line, but even with all the dollar signs, they had to be pushed the whole way. And now the network is up, and their loss-leaders, free connexions, free routers, and free money are all gone, it will be painful for them to watch those millions switch to better, more capable, better staffed, and cheaper ISPs.
The Management? That's probably just the Peter Principle in action. I don't think I've seen a genuinely good, really fresh idea come out of the big-cheese dish at BT for years. They follow others.
for now..
;o)
Well I've read this site through - a number of times - and quite frankly I'm bogged down. I just don't understand ports etc. I could design and write you a full blown .NET business web app with SQl database but I'm lost with networks etc.
Simply I had a working domestic network (ethernet) with Netgear hub and an ISDN router. I moved house, got broadband and a Voyager 205, eventually got the thimg working direct onto my laptop (problems with line speed out in the countryside) and now want to get it set up so voyager connects to hub then to pcs. Local network with hub works fine (when I set fixed IP address on laptop). Voyager works fine on laptop with variable IP adress. How do I tell voyager to talk to hub?? I can get to the control page and have slavishly followed instructions to stealth router but don't understand what to do next.
Please can someone give me simple list of what to do?
I also want to be able to FTP upload and download from a website using Dreamweaver or Visual Studio.NET 2005. Can you give me a simple recipe that I can follow slavishly please as I'm desperate to sort this out as I feel so stupid especially as I've just heard that my brother's working at Connexant sales!!
PJ (Dumb Brunette), you don't need recipes or rules to connect to an ftp server. Stealth rule number one (of two) allows ALL outbound traffic, everything. I'm assuming you applied the stealth rules and tweaks found here.
As for getting the 205 to talk to your hub, it's simple; you connect them together with Cat5 cable (aka. "ethernet patch cable") and leave them to it. A "hub" (as opposed to a switch) is fairly dumb, and doesn't much talk at all, simply spraying the data all over and letting the machines (including the 205) work it all out amongst themselves. If the machines are correctly setup, it all works fine.
I recommend you carefully check out the static IP page here and apply that to all your computers. The list you seek is at the foot of the troubleshooter page, check everything!
Lastly, I urge you, and everyone, too check out the work I've recently done on "RAH", which is an application to automatically hack your router. You can throw one or more scripts into its folder and have them sent to the router with the click of a button. No need to telnet manually into the router, or navigate the crazy web interface.
So far there are scripts for stealth, rad (deletions for those pesky power-cycle rules), brad (essential deletions for a new router), ftpd (ftp server), XP Remote Desktop, and maximum connexions tweak, and something else I forget. I'll be adding many more as I go along, for sure. Or others might like to; it's very very simple to create the scripts, they are just a list router commands.
RAH makes it drop-dead simple to setup your router to whatever your requirements, even if you are a complete networking n00b.
GET RAH HERE!
for now..;o)
Hi I have the following setup :-
BT Voyager 205
Linksys Wireless Firewall/Router
The BT Voyager is connected to the Internet port on the back of the Linksys and then all PC's are connected via wireless.
The Linksys issues IP addresses to the PC's and get's it's IP address via DHCP from the voyager.
What I would like to do is have the Voyager 205 acting as an ADSL modem only, so that the Linksys can do all the NAT and firewall, open ports etc..
On the IP Addressing page of the Voyager setup it says System Mode Routing.. Is this what I have to change and if so how do I do it..
Any help or pointing me in the right direction would be great.
Thanks,
Martin Love
I've got an xbox 360 and when i run a xbox live connection test it comes up as my NAT settings set to strict. Because it is on strict i can't communicate with anybody on xbox live or host my own games.
How Do I change my NAT setttings to moderate or open????
so it will enable me to be able to communicate and host my own games. I've got a bt voyager 205 adsl router if that helps.
Thanks
Martin Love, you'd be better off with a simple modem, then. Do you have one? If you want to use the 205 this way, it is possible, though more than rarely problematic, and what a waste! Anyways..
Start with the zipb section on the tricks page (link at top). If you have any troubles, load *this* page with all comments, scroll back for vof's posts about working with a Linksys WRT54G. I really must edit that into somewhere that doesn't move so quick, good info.
BIG TONY, grab the "voyager+console_true_stealth config.zip" (aka "perfect stealth") ready-made script from the archives (see Useful links section for the URL). Some swear by it, some say it's shite, you decide. At any rate, you essentially need to create a "port-forwarding" rule, or more, for your game.
The ready-made console config aims to be a "one rule to cover them all" type thing, and in theory, once you apply it, all your console games should work. Beware, the config enables UPnP (or rather, doesn't disable it, like the other ready-made configs). UPnP is a rather dangerous thing in my opinion, so you may want to comment out that line in the config before you import it into the router. If everything works, great. If not, you can uncomment it and try again with UPnP.
UPnP (Universal Plug-And-Play) is a mechanism designed to allow trojans to take control of your firewall so that a remote attacker can gain control of your computer. Well, it may have been designed for some other reason, whatever, it's usually wise to disable it wherever it's discovered enabled. If you have a good local firewall on your computer, and know how to use it, UPnP isn't such a risk.
Of course, only fools allow trojans on their computers in the first place, well, and n00bs, and elderly folks, and p0rn surfers, and maybe tired folk, sometimes.
UPnP = a nice idea, interesting protocol, crazy implementation.
If it had been invented at Berkeley, or MIT or something, it would probably be very funky indeed, with security certificates, and trusted databases and what-not, but as everyone has to fit in to Microsoft's daft scheme, it sadly became an accident waiting to happen to your computer.
l*rz..
;o)
Hello
Does anyone know what the max upload speed you will get with BT`s new 8Mb BT Broadband when on Option 4?
Thanks
Not me. But while I'm here, I'd like to introduce the..
Automatic Router Scripting Engine
"Arse" for short.
;o)
totally confused
all i want to do is enable il2 sturmovik so that i can host games on port 28960
can i work out how to do it?
i can not
please help oh clever ones
Tim,
the point for the IL2 Sturmovik is this.
Load a mediating proxy HyperLobby ver 3.98.101+
www.hyperfighter.sk
and configure appropriately as per HL's Support web
Then you can both HOST a game and join other pilots (not only for IL2, also Forgotten Battles, Pacific Fighters, F/A-18, Flanker 2.5, LOMAC, and many others
Works well and the community is out there and stable
Have a great joy with IL2 / see you somewhere in the sky there.
Aim well and check your Six.
Salute Matynek.
thanks Matynek
ive been hosting games on hyperlobby for the last four years with my green frog modem, i just cant work out how to do the port forwarding thing but i hadnt thought of looking on hyperlobbys website,i shall have a look there
btw im a Tangmere Pilot (No1_Mothyp in the lobby)
cheers
Cor, I found a simple solution for the 14 chars limit of the MX field in the DDNS config of the router. First I configured the 14 chars longer MX record directly from DynDNS web pages, then I filled the MX field with the string "NOCHG" (without quotes) in the router. It works
got it sorted now
thanks for the ideas
but the answer was within this website i just didnt understand eigth time round
Nice one Mirko! I'll make a note of that somewhere. Cheers!
Thanks for the info, Matynek.Sr, noted.
tim, you will still need to setup your router to allow the game to work, host games, etc. Download the Automatic Router Scripting Engine, and also the IL-2_Sturmovik.arse - I'm luvvin how easy it is to do this sort of thing, now
You'll need to switch the port to your non-standard port (inside IL-2_Sturmovik.arse), and also edit IL-2_Sturmovik's hlpro.ini file (see notes inside the script).
If you haven't setup your router as per the instructions here; stealth, tweaks, etc, then run Basic-Voyager-205-setup.arse first. Doing everything I've just described will take less than a minute. ARSE scripts available here. The one you want in in the games folder.
l*rz..
;o)
[edit - ha! tim! you just nipped in ahead of me!
Yes, often the answer is right here, but folk didn't spot it (usually because they went straight to the comment facility!). Essentially, you need port-forwarding rules. Check out ARSE, it makes all this stuff drop-dead simple.
Once I get some more feedback, I'll likely put a big link up near the top of the page, save folk that are in a hurry the task of having to read all this bloody information! ]
hi there, firstly id like to say sorry coz i dont know much about pc's. i would like to speed up my download time and been put here through various searches (great site btw). but i cant seem 2 get past the getting started screen i clicked on Advanced>> Security>> IP Filter. i get a screen askin for user name and password but i dont know what they are can any1 help
wolve80 - username admin password admin.
Too speed things up you'll need to download "TCP Optimizer" - it works a treat.
This may be a very n00by question, but i'm having trouble downloading the .arse files. Are they suppose to download on click? Are we suppose to drag them into a program? The only way i can get it uploaded at the moment is to copy the "basic_stealth.arse" file and then edit the script in notepad. Am i being stupid? Is there an easier way to download and upload the .arse files?
Jim, ARSE is all new, so all questions and feedback are much appreciated.
Firstly, ensure you have the latest installer, which means go download is again right now (the latest version only went up minutes ago) I put a fair bit of work into it over the weekend, and it should be more user-friendly, as well as setup *everything* for you.
If you have any troubles with the unzip.dll, read the log, try the suggestions, and let me know, preferably by mail.
Once installed, you can activate arse scripts in a number of ways. The easiest is to simply click them; they will be sent directly and immediately to your router. Or..
If you launch Arse without any scripts on the command-line (ie. NOT drag-and-drop, click a script, shortcut, etc), Arse will process ALL arse scripts found in the "scripts" folder (inside its data folder - recent versions use "Viking Router" as their home folder, because ARSE works with all the viking routers, probably other routers, too. Older versions of Arse use "Voyager205".)
basic_stealth.arse is created when you first run Arse, because it found no scripts in the script folder. You can add add as many scripts as you like to that folder, and Arse will process them all whenever you run it. Basically, you keep your default set in here, aka "favourites", and click other scripts as and when needed.
Check out the notes on the ARSE pages, for more details.
l*rz..
;o)
hi all. firsty like to say thanks to chris for the advice. but as i said in my last post i dont know much about pc's and now its not workin as it was e.g cant get on to yahoo messenger & a chat site i visit, i think its coz i changed ip address but i really dont know. i am desperate to sort this pc out and try and learn from it as i go but its all numbers
wolve, reset everything! Well, the router anyway. There's a wee recessed button at the rear of the unit. Use a match or a pin or something while the unit powered up.
Then download ARSE, and install it (you might also want to read the notes on that page, there aren't many numbers!). Also download Basic-Voyager-205-setup.arse from the main ARSE scripts folder, and click it. Now your router is setup.
I don't know what IP you changed, but your peecee really wants to be at 192.168.1.3 for everything to work as expected, that's the only IP you should ever have to touch. Check out the static IP page (link at the top) for simple details on how to do this on any platform.
You shouldn't need to mess with TCP/IP settings, the defaults will be just fine. At least, not until you have everything working; it will only add complication. Later, when everything is 100%, you might want to tweak some things, but there's definitely no hurry.
You messenger and chat and what-not should "just work", and there should be no need to configure anything else. If you have an application which needs to act as a server (ie. allow incoming connexion, like eMule, BitTorrent, etc), then simply download and run the appropriate arse script for that application, and it will be setup for you.
If there isn't a script for your application, consider making a donation, and let me know, I'll put something together. Or else you could *create* one, and send it to me. Editing one of the other arse scripts is a good way forward.
But for basic net usage, all you need to do is install ARSE, and run the Basic-Voyager-205-setup script.
for now..
;o)
I CHANGED FROM USB TO ETHERNET ON THE 205 ROUTER DURING A FULL REINSTALL OF EVERYTHING. I FOUND THE ETHERNET CONNECTION WORKS OKAY, EVEN THOUGH THE FORMER USB CONNECTION IS LISTED IN THE 205 CONFIGURATION.THE DCHP SERVER ADDRESS HAS CHANGED FROM 192.168.1.2 TO 192.168.1.1
AND THE COMPUTERS HAS CHANGED FROM 192.168.1.3 TO 192.168.1.4. THE WINDOWS SYSTEM EVENT VIEWER SAYS AFTER A FEW SECONDS OF INTERNET CONNECTION:- EVENT ID 1003, yOUR COMPUTER WAS NOT ABLE TO REEW ITS ADDRESS FROM THE NETWORK FROM THE DHCP SERVER FOR THE NETWORK CARD. THE OPERATION WAS CANCELLED BY THE USER. YOUR COMPUTER WILL CONTINUE TO TRY AND OBTAIN AN ADDRESS ON ITS OWN FROM THE DHCP SERVER.
I HAVE NOTICED ODD GLITCHES, SOMETIMES SEROIUS. I ASKED BT WHO SAID IT WAS A MICROSOFT ISSUE. (EVIDENTLY , SOMEONE AT BT THINKS THE ROUTER WAS PRODUCED BY BILL GATES). YOUR HELP APPRECIATED. THANKS.
I love the whole thing about this site because it
appears to answer all my needs & exudes a positive enrgy , only thing is it all appears to be in a strange elvish dialect.............
My situation is that....
1. i have a Mac (which i can't find much
reference too here, but i may be being very dumb).........
2. I need to port forward my 205 to help my miserable amule
downloads get better....
3. I'm a complete Newbee's newbee & have never entered a command
line before ........and don't really know how to apply all your great advice.........miseries of miseries, so near & yet so far..........
4. Any chance of really simple instructions of what i should do
mucho gratious
lala
tra la la:
I can't speak for cor, but i think the majority of his website is mac friendly and everything is more or less the same for both mac/pc/linux.
First you'll have to set-up a static ip. Cor's scripts are designed for a computer at the ip 192.168.1.3, so make your computer use that, Cor made a tutorial for how do make a static ip on a mac here: http://corz.org/comms/hardware/router/static.ip.address.php
If you want to open ports for emule, i suggest you take cor's advice and download his fantastic program a.r.s.e:
http://corz.org/public/docs/comms/router/Automatic-Router-Scripting-Engine/
and then download the specific .arse for emule: http://corz.org/public/docs/comms/router/Automatic-Router-Scripting-Engine/scripts/p2p/eMule.arse
I believe this opens port 4662, so you'll have to change that in your settings.
I also have my own problem i'd like someones help with. I'm having a problem with my router becoming unresponsive when i use the usb and ethernet. This has never happened until a recently set-up a static ip of 192.168.1.3 on my peecee and started to use the basic_stealth and bitorrent .arse scripts. I know usb is more trouble that its worth, and i do have a switch which i use for all my devices except my dads peecee which requires the use a usb because it is unable to install a PCI network card. It won't let me use both usb and ethernet at the same time and when i do try and use them at the same time, i have to reset the modem in order for either to work on their own.
Anyone know whats happened or what i can do to correct it?
P.S. my usb computer is at 192.168.1.2, but you probably knew that
It opens port 49200 not 4662, don't know where i got that from.
BILL RAVENSCLIFFROCK! I definitely suggest you reset your router, your peeceee, and your loud-hailer, and scroll down to the bottom of this very post!
tra la la, you too! I have something for you all! Actually, not you!
Come to think of it, it wouldn't be too challenging to come up with an ARSE script parser for the UNIX shell. Hmm. Not this week. In the meantime, tra la la, you just click here, and then do telnet 192.168.1.1, and you're in! Follow the recipes page (a text editor is the perfect middle-man for all this shell stuff) and enter your port-forwarding rules. If you feel fruity, drop in a few of the tweaks on this page, some are near-essential.
Jim, the only script that should affect the USB, is the one I put up earlier today "USB-disable.arse", which basically switches it right off. Rrrecommended!
Okay, firstly, your USB computer certainly should not be at 192.168.1.2, that is the IP address of the router's USB interface. Attempting to use that IP for another device will cause all sorts of trouble.
Check your static IP settings, ensure they are by-the-book (I mean static IP page), and do run (no walk) through the checklist at the bottom of the troubleshooter page (link in the top menu). If you have a few machines on your LAN, check out the notes inside the scripts before firing them up, things like the dhcp pool from 192.168.1.50-192.168.1.99 could be a nice gotcha! for the unwary, especially if they were just lucking out on a dhcp-assigned 192.168.1.3 address, which needs to be specified on the peecee, static.
Although your dad needs USB, that doesn't mean you have to use it on the router. These wee USB>Ethernet adapters are very cheap, deadly effective, and every one I've tried has been plug&play, even on Linux. Consider purchasing one. Even after your dad gets an upgrade, it's a very handy converter to have around. You can even attach two of them to a Cat5 cable and have a pure USB Ethernet link!
And you were right the first time, the emule script opens 4662 and 4672, 49200 is used for BitTorrent!
Remember, you can reset the router at any time (stick something sharp in the back) to get right back to the factory settings, and then apply scripts slowly, starting with the basic setup, etc. I also recommend creating a backup of that "clean" router config (I keep mine in a folder called "reset", rather than change its name - which needs to always be commitedcfg.cfg)
Anyway..
Today I was googling for automatic telnet router or Automatically telnet into router or something like that, and this came up top..
ARSE v1.7.1
Looks useful!
;o)
Or google for Automatic router
hi iv been trying to open ports on my voyager 205 i have even tryed to open a dmz but not 100% sure on what im to put in the boxes i just carnt seem to do this , i want to beable to host game server for a game called republic commando but every time i try to hst a game no one sees my server an they also cannot connect via a ip.i have read this tutorial a dozen times an i still cart seem to manage to be able to host my game
so me being dum an wot not ,i was woundering if you could make me a command file or something like that so i can just upload it to my router and every thing is set and away i go
thanks learner
I'd just like to comment on the ps+xbox script. I don't know about anyone else, but it doesn't work at all for me. It seems the only way i can get the NAT on open is to set-up a dmz around a static ip (although when i have more than one NAT rule, the NAT changes from "open" to "moderate" for some reason) which i don't mind doing because i can just upload the a .arse script when i'm finished playing
P.S. sorry about the port mix-up i had, was tired
Jim, The console needs to be at 192.168.1.100 for that script to work (as explained inside the script), did you set your console to that static IP? If you haven't already, read the notes within the script, most arse scripts come with some comments and explanations inside.
Having said all that, I haven't even tested that one myself, not having a console, so your experience is valuable, do keep sharing!
"virtual servers" is just "port forward" with another name, really, and DMZ = "best avoided", if possible, which I'm fairly certain it should be.
As to anyone else's results, who knows?
It's all new.
learner, you saw ARSE, right?
Dom, good one!
I guess that means I can skip ARSE's planned SEO!
;o)
i need help, got a 205 today, and i dont know if the thing broken or my pc aint configured. but tried it on 3 dif pcs and nothing, does the same thing,
this is what happens.
running thro ethernet. dsl lead in back of router.
here are the probs.
1) lights wont steady up, just keeps on flashing, apart from the Power Light.
2) reset wont work. diag light dont come up nothing. and just hangs. on power light
3) cant connect thro the 192.168.1.1 thing.
tried turning off router and back on nothing, lights just keep on flashing, ive had 2 of these now and both are doing the same thing.
i even formatted pc just to make sure i had no dodgy things happening. anyone got an idea what i can do? or is my 205 Shagged?? again?
Zeff
also Does not detect USB as well. plug that in and nothing. dont come up with no new hardware..
really stuck, but dont wanna use USB anyways..
Zeff
also Local area connection keeps on going connected then unplugged. dunno whats up with that...
Zeff, did you try resetting the unit? (there's a recessed hole at the rear you can poke something into).
1) which light is flashing?
Apart from the power light, they are supposed to flash. This means they are in use, and is good. But you also say..
2) reset won't work? ahh, you tried the pokey thing, then? you need to do it when the power is on, as far an I know. I do, anyway, and I've reset it a few times recently developing ARSE. Let it bott up fully, and then poke something in.
3) It sounds to me like either your cable is dodgy (you tried another?) or perhaps your network card is fubar (these different peecees, do they each have different NICs, or were you moving one around?) Looks okay in the device manager, no errors in the hardware or drivers? Are they (the drivers) up-to-date?
Or perhaps the networking settings on your network are already fixed to some different subnet, one of the 10.something, or even 192.168.0.something subnets, rendering the 205 effectively invisible. Setup your peecee with a static IP address of 192.168.1.3, follow the static IP page, and try again.
It's unlikely the 205 is broken, and even more unlikely that two-in-a-row are broken, but if you want to send them to me, I can test them and send the best one back!
It seems weird that the thing didn't register as a USB device, not that you want to use that, correct. But still, it should have brought up a dialog and what-not. Hmmm.
Not running OS2/Warp are you?
;o)
hi dude, na running win XP.
but i must admit im a serious nooby when it comes to these things.
but yea USB def wont work. dont detect it at all, no matter what i try there so i gave up on that.
also tried the router on 3 dif PCs and the USB dont work on either.
so the lights are suppose to flash? i thought they would of solid up or summin when things are connected?
it did with my old 210, but the thnig was locked :/
with flashing i dont mean they are flashing when they in use. i mean power light is steady on. then diag flashes, followed by Dsl, then ethernet and USB flash, then they all turn of for 10 sec, then repeat.
and i aint even got USB plugged in.
Zeff
btw yea tried 2 leads. dont think they busted, one of works when i share my IC with my PS2. so i dont think my Network card is naffed or i wouldnt be able to share my IC
device manager is all ok, tried updating the drivers but didnt do nothing :/
Zeff
thanks
cor & jim.........
i'm going to work through the stuff you gave me.....
by the way as i'm on mac i dont use 'emule', i use 'amule', which is a
different but parallel file sharing project run for mac platforms.(emule only being peesea)
Will your instructions be the same for this app ??
http://www.amule.org/
many fa -anxs
tra la
I had set my console to 192.168.1.100 and it doesn't work. The only way i can get it to work is to put it in on a dmz ip and have no other NAT rules on my router, which is a little inconvenient as i have to delete them all everytime i want to play my xbox properly. I'll experiement a little and try and find a better way.
P.S. Can peecee's using usb be assigned to a personal static ip?
Zeff, ahh! sounds like it's "bricked", and is simply rebooting itself every ten seconds or so. You might want to rake about on the advanced age for methods of recovery from this state.
It does seem weird that two routers would do this to you! Is there something unusual about your situation or procedures? Do you live right next to an electricity generator? Or a Volcano? Maybe a strong psychic in the house? Poltergeist?
Tell me, this sequence of lights, is it the same when the only wire connected to the router is the power cable? (in other words, remove the ethernet, USB, and phone plugs and try it then).
Yes, TRA LA LA, it is exactly the same as eMule, ports-wise. It's more the network protocol (eD2K akak "eDonkey 2000") that dictates the standard ports, though you can change these in your client software (aMule), so long as you remember to open the corresponding ports on your router. There's probably no reason not to use the standard ports.
So the rules here will work fine for you. And if you have a copy of VirtualPC kicking around, I'd be very keen to know if ARSE works in it!
Jim, until we find a better solution to the console rules thing, with ARSE, you can switch back and forth between configurations with a click, so it's not such an inconvenience; simply make two rules, one for console, one for regular use, and click!1
I still want to know the best way to put one of these things online, though.
Anyways, y'all need to get the latest version of ARSE for the latest-greatest click-happy routerconfiggeratin' type fun! I even did a proper section for it and from now on, I'll post about this stuff on the ARSE page.
;o)
ps.. erm.. shit! I'd have to plug in the USB and install the drivers to answer that one! but I can't think of any reason why not; at that level it's all the same, should be.
Ha! I just thought of a handy new tray menu item (right-click) ... "send current selection", you wouldn't even have to bring up the window. with that and a tray-switch for the toggle-selection button ...
Anyone know which is the positive voltage output of the power supply for the voyager 205, is it the pin or the ring?
birthday boy, it's AC!
Jim, it just struck me now (why I'm here) that it's possible to create "virtual" ethernet interfaces on the 205, like this..Which creates a virtual interface running over the regular physical interface. As you can see, it's also possible to specify that the security type be "dmz". Interesting.
Now, I'm not saying it will just work, but, if you created this virtual interface, and put the console at 192.168.0.something (note the zero, not 1) you should be able to setup both things together, as in simultaneously; or at least, get us a step closer.
Mess around, if you get any data, results, whatever, let me know; we could make a script.
for now..
;o)
OK, i tried to take all the cables out and just leave the power in, it still does the same thing, power light is on, and then the other 4 lights just flash then turn of for 10 sec then do the same again. well i do live about 30 yards from the Exchange...:p
but apart from that no
and yea the lights are the same no matter what i do. leads in or out, and also lan is doing connected then unplugged all the time. ive set up the lan with the IP's 192.168.1.3 etc. but still no joy. at a total loss.
Zeff
http://www.portforward.com/
The propaganda about USB routers is not necessary any more Linux recognises USB devices nowadays including USB Routers/Modems
try any of the latest Linux systems SuSE 10 for example.
The inferiority complex and the poor man's windows KDE, really shouldn't be spouting so much nonsense about USBs.
Philip, Linux has been recognising USB devices for years, regardless of the distro; it's in the Kernel. That still doesn't put USB in the same league as Ethernet for connecting computers together; it's poor-man's networking, at best. It simply means Linux is more and more becoming a popular operating system. Good.
At any rate, I've no idea what "propaganda" you are referring to. Something on portforward.com?
Zeff, the "thirty yards from the exchange" could be more significant than we imagine. I've heard some weird stuff from folk living real close to exchanges. Hmmm. The router definitely sounds screwed, anyway. ADSL Overload!
Sounds like time for a direct flash!
I blew up my test router, you are on your own!
Check out the "advanced" link at the top.
l*rz..
;o)
ug dunno where to start with this :/
Zeff
Hi, trying to do some basic networking with my Voyager 205 - thanks to your great website! I recently changed to ISP lixxus that give a free IP address. I've been trying to move away from dyndns and changing my domain name provider's webaliases to A Name records with my new IP. I want ftp, ssh and web to work. I've been getting strange results! ftp comes up with a stranger's ftp, web goes to the web page of the Voyager and ssh is going somewhere but I don't know where! Any tips? I don't really want people going to my router's admin page when they type my URL in!
Nick
Hi Corz,
I am getting frustrated by my network. It consists of my voyager 205 router (firmware v1.8) and a voyager 1500 (running in wireless access point mode). I have a laptop connected via wireless and a peecee connected directly to an ethernet port on the 1500 - both run XP Professional (SP2). The problem is that when I start either the laptop (wireless) or desktop (ethernet) I cant get any external network connectivity for about 3-4 minutes - it resolves itself after this time, but its frustrating that its takes so long.
I have disabled dhcp on both the 205 and 1500 - I use an internal ip range. I have also applied some fwall rules as mentioned on this site (and tested using shields up). I have setup some startup scripts to ping the 205 and the 1500 and an external site (bbc.com) so I can see where the packets are getting dropped. The 1500 responds to the pings immediately on startup but the 205 and the external site do not. This tells me the problem is either:
a) the 1500 is not forwarding the ICMP packets to the 205
b) the 205 is dropping the packets from the 1500
c) the 1500 is dropping the return packets
The fact that this problem resoloves itself after 3-5 minutes tells me that there is some sort of handshaking/initialisation going on that takes a while to complete. However, I dont know what this could be or why this should take so long. I have used Ethreal to debug this but it doesnt add anything. I was going to setup a log daemon (as mentioned on this site) but as I dont run linux (yet) I would have to jump thru a few hoops first. Any ideas?
Thanks
bigmac
Zeff, back in the days of CB Radio, when your rig (or your twig) was too powerful, too big, you used a thing called an "attenuator", to prevent you from blowing up the neighbours TV set, or fish-tank, or whatever. Perhaps such a thing exists for broadband!
Living so close to the exchange should generally be a good thing, but with two kaput 205's already, perhaps we have found this Viking unit's Achilles heel. Very interesting.
I've actually started doing a lot more work on my 205 since I stopped using it as my broadband modem, no way I could have developed ARSE while I was using it for internet access! But if your game, I'm up for having another crack at a flash cable, if you want to send them to me for experimentation. I'd love to see a 100% working Voyager 205 flash method in print somewhere.
But then, even if I do get it working, you plug it back in to the exchange and BANG! Kaput. Och well, it was a thought.
Nick, the first thing to do is ensure the DNS is working. An RDNS of the IP you used to post here comes up with only your ISP hostname (the lixxus.net address). You domain (the one from your email address) is a different IP altogether, so I assume that this isn't the one you are pointing at your own IP.
When I checked your IP for the three services you mentioned (http, ftp, ssh) I get nothing at all, so either you haven't setup port-forwarding on the voyager (GET ARSE!) or those services aren't running.
Once you setup the servers and the port-forwarding, remember; you cannot just type http://mydomain.com into your web browser and expect to see your site "from outside". Your domain points to your gateway, and the quickest route from a browser inside your LAN to the gateway, is directly. So you see the "inside" view, i.e.. the web interface.
Check out the recipes page for more info about this. There are loads of ways to test your sites and services "from outside", but you need to do exactly that; be outside, but for http it's as simple as.. use a proxy.
There's a rather juicy ftp-from-the-web site out there I use to test my own workshop ftp server. I may post the link on the recipes page one day (though terrified that exposure leads to abuse leads to shutdown of such a great service) but for now I'll leave it between you and google.
Hi bigmac, yes, I have a few ideas, though whether these lead to solutions, we'll see.
Firstly you shouldn't need icmp packets to travel past the gateway for all this to work. In theory, the gateway machine, in this case the 205, gets all the information your network needs to immediately access outside resources, and vice versa. (it's easy enough to allow ICMP packets through the 205; by the way, there's a rule kicking around here for it; but you shouldn't need that to get connected)
It seems more likely that the 1500 and 205 are fighting over just who is supposed to be the gateway. Before I launch into a series of possible issues and suggestions, lemme check the 1500's manual (I don't know the unit at all). Hmm, looks doable.
We should confirm that the basics are setup..
1. In the 1500 setup; Operating Mode: Is it set to "Access Point Mode"?
(Remember to Apply & Save after changing the settings.)
According to the manual, being a BT Voyager, it should work with the 205 right off the bat, so long as Access Point Mode is set. I assume, when you setup the static IPs, you use 192.168.1.1 as the gateway/DNS server.
Confirm these things, then we can look deeper. I know, you sound fairly savvy, but if I had a buck for every hour I've wasted troubleshooting advanced setups when it was something really obvious, I'd be getting some more beers in for Aberdeen's first real Summer weekend!
;o)
Hi corz
Thanks for the response.
>1. In the 1500 setup; Operating Mode: Is it set to "Access Point Mode"?
>(Remember to Apply & Save after changing the settings.)
yes, the 1500 is running in wap mode.
>According to the manual, being a BT Voyager, it should work with the 205 right off the bat, so long as Access Point Mode is set. I assume, when you setup the static IPs, you use 192.168.1.1 as the gateway/DNS server.
you assume correctly - almost. My internal range is 10.44.2.40-10.44.2.50 and here are my assignments:
voyager 205 - 10.44.2.40
voyager 1500 - 10.44.2.41
laptop - 10.44.2.46
desktop - 10.44.2.43
I have no other devices on the LAN. On my laptop/desktop my preferred DNS is 195.xxx.xxx.xx (a machine at my office), and my alternate DNS' are 212.159.13.49 and 212.159.13.50 (my ISPs' DNS - Plusnet).
I have a gut feeling that the problem is either with the 205 or 1500 (mentioned above) OR something to do with a Windows XP service that takes a while to initialise. This last gut feeling is due to the ping script I mentioned - I get a response from the external ips' (bbc.com) when the machines first boot up, but then I stop getting responses after about 30 seconds and then nothing for about 4-5 minutes as mentioned. This is probably getting off topic for this site - it could be a windoze service issue - but I wondered if you or anyone else had the same problems?
To determine if its a windows issue I could install linux on my spare desktop or I could reduce the number of services running at startup and see which (if any) affect the problem. Just thoughts.
cheers
bigmac
3rd party software:
i've heard of some lnksis routers which have alternative 3rd party software, i'm not sure but i think unix based. does anyone know of any 3rd party software for the voyager 205?
the reason being, i'm having problems with the router slowing down to a standstill (i think because of too many open connections) requiring me to reset and reconfigure the rules
how do i change the radius on the 205 cause im getting a new isp and i fear i wont be able to connect
Hello - here's an odd one.
Using the router as a router with security turned off ID off and no NAT or anything complex, if you fire an SNMP v2 packet (UDP 161) at another device via the router everything is lovely. If you fire an SNMPv3 packet (again UDP 161) through the router - the packet gets dumped.
To try and avoid this I have added rule 1 and 2 as permit any any any any any any any any in and out, which gets hit successufully by an SNMP3 packet but it still gets dropped although not against any of the rule counters!). Anyone else seen this or got any ideas?
I am in an ideal position with ADSL line here and have access to a device at the end of a BT Central service (same LAN, this is not for internet access) with an anlayser at both ends. To ensure it was the router, it was replaced by a Cisco and it all works fine. Similarly if the SNMP3 request is shifted to any other port, then this is fine too. It is almost as if the router acts as an application layer proxy for snmp and as it doesn't understand snmp3 it simply dumps the packet rather than forwards it......
Suggestions on a postcard.
Hi,
On the main 205 webpage:
http://corz.org/comms/hardware/router/bt.voyager.205_router.how-to.php
the link to the Firewall Rules page http://192.168.1.1/PopOutPage?id=81 didn't work for me.
But http://192.168.1.1/PopOutPage?id=79 threw up the right page.
Toodle pip,
Phred
bigmac, why not set the 205 as the DNS server? during ppp negotiation, it gets the name of the DNS servers from your ISP, you don't have to add these manually (though you can add them as backup servers to the 205)
Tom, try this.
demise, the 205 doesn't support radius.
only me, try..looks likely.
Phred, is that a 205?
for now..
;o)
bigmac: can you clarify how the 1500 and 205 are physically connected, and what you've done to define default gateways for the devices. Key question: is the 205 LAN port connected to the 1500 WAN port or one of its LAN ports, and what mode is the 205 set to? Without DHCP, default gateways need to be defined manually.
I'm wondering whether this another variant of the ZIPB/bridge problem.
In reply to myslef on the failure of snmp3 but success of snmp 2, the answer is yes indeed the system does have an Application Layer Gateway operating by default for snmp. As it doesn't support snmp3, the ALG sees the snmp3 packet as malformed and dumps it. In order to stop this occuring, at the command line enter:
delete alg port portno 161 prot udp
and your alg dies a death, making the router actually route SNMP packets properly rather than do anything clever.
Of course doing this may well disable the SNMP2 management of the device should you wish to use this (but I haven't tried to be honest).
Thanks me.
me.
Hi vof
The 205 ethernet port is connected to the 1500 "internet" port - only 1 of the 1500 "ethernet" ports is used and thats for the desktop. In terms of gateways I have done nothing special on the 1500 - I have set the mode to "access point" and defined an ip address 10.44.2.41 (mask 255.255.255.0) - thats all. This has the effect of disabling the router functionality on the 1500 - I am using the 205 as the router. On the 205 the default gateway seems to be set by default to my isp gateway - I have no influence on that. In case it helps here is the ip address config on the 205:
IP Address Configuration
System Mode: Routing
Get LAN Address: Manual
Actual LAN IP Address: 10.44.2.40
Actual LAN Network Mask: 255.255.255.0
@Cor
I have set the 205 as the DNS server - I guess that wont solve my problems, but at least it looks nicer!
cheers
bigmac
hi i received this pices of trash from BT as part of my broad band package im having some major router greif so if an7y1 out there can help basically what is this my router refuses \
to let me forward ports for osme of my games as a result the modem is fubar,d
i get the error message 401 unauthrosied whenever i try to log into the router
can any1 help cos the dam things driving me batty
Hi There,
Please could someone help me out -
I have got a neatgear wgt624 as an access point that plugs into my bt voyager 205
I have setup zipb mode,now my netgear does receive a public ip from my isp
so i think zipb mode is working (my bt is in routing mode only???)
But i cannot connect, nat is disabled on my voyager, the wan link is up with the same
public ip as my netgear??
Do i need another ip from my isp to get this work so my neatger can be the lan gateway
any thoughts much appreciated
i need to set up a dmz so that i can use comms on socom3,ps2 platform.how do i do this using my voyager205,preferably as easy as poss as im an idiot oncomputers.
having problems trying to host games online able to join game not a problem but when i host no one can join my server they can see it but can't join ?
have a bt voyager 205 adsl router modem box using it through usb
please help any1
game is BLACK hawk down
Hi, thanks for the previous Good Advice.
Unfortunately I was doing all of that already but it is good to confirm things.
I have configured my 205 according to your instructions almost verbatim, modified only where necessary. (I have written a Unix expect script to automatically do this, perhaps you would like to see this? Works with Linux, Unix, OSX, etc.)
I was with BT (who were OK but I wanted a fixed IP and they charge for that) but have now moved to Lixxus who seem pretty damned fine chaps indeed. Unfortunately, my connection now keeps on being dropped since the switch. One of the differences is that Lixxus demand a password and BT don't but that is probably a red herring. The link will be fine until the early morning, say 6am, and then it will cease to exist. Lots of alarms come up on the 205's console. The 205's diagnostics fail on the ISP connection (I have all this in a file if you are interested - slightly too big to include in this message). Interestingly, Lixxus can't see anything going on in their logs, just that I am not connected. Traceroute shows:
...
10 xe-3-1.r01.londen03.uk.bb.verio.net (129.250.2.46) 3.161 ms 2.810 ms 2.959 ms
11 c1.ta.l1.lixxus.net (213.130.48.178) 3.114 ms 4.656 ms 3.393 ms
* * * * *
Lixxus confirmed that this is where it will stop if I am not connected. I have confirmed all the login and setup details with the same Lixxus guys. Their suggestion is either a dodgy BT line (this has happened in the recent past) or a dodgy router. Unfortunately my only other router is a bloody ISP-locked 210. How can I know if my 205 is kaput?
(I have a number of possibilities to consider: ISP change, line upgrade, router configuration change, router failure, user stupidity. I think the last one is the most likely!)
bigmac: the reasons for my questions were it sounded as if you were using the same subnet on both sides of your WAP (10.44.2.) - I don't think that is valid though the 1500 might eventually work out how to mod its routing tables to make it work - possibly the cause of the delay.
I use a different subnet on each side, then of course have to ensure my WAP has a default route to the WAN port. That default route is usually set automatically if you 'login' or allocate addresses using DHCP. With a manual system and statically allocated addresses, I've found you need to set it yourself. My next comment to fdoc2424 might also be relevant...
fdoc2424: I've got a Netgear DM602 which is virtually identical to the 205 and never got it to work in zipb/modem/bridge mode. It did work in router mode provided I used different subnets for my LAN and the Linksys WAP <-> Netgear DM602. This is how it looked:
LAN(192.168.1.x)<->(192.168.1.1)Linksys(192.168.0.100_from_DHCP)<->(192.168.0.1)Netgear(public_IP)<->ADSL
I've been thinking about this whole problem again recently after reading comments referring to PPPoE. I suspect my problem is that when my Netgear was in zipb/modem mode, I told my Linksys to login using PPPoA. Now, I'm pretty damn sure that the ATM protocol does not get past the modem, and since the PPP negotiation still needs to be done by the WAP, and the WAP is connected to the zipb device by Ethernet, that the protocol to be used by the WAP must surely be PPPoE. I've not had an opportunity to check this out yet but I've now got a glimmer of why the ISP-allocated public IP address does get assigned to the WAP WAN port - tha's all part of zipb - but the WAP can't login cos it's talking PPPoA rather than PPPoE. Does this make any sense to anyone?
Anyway, cor has a description of my two subnet setup near the bottom of this page, but it would be good to know if the above means that zipb can be made to work.
I must be missing something obvious here. The voyager is plugged into my NIC, (and DSL), but I'm stuck here. I get no internet, and when I try to access the modem's website (http://192.168.1.1) nothing happens?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Vof Hi,
Yeah that makes sense, i managed to get it working all on the same subnet by just bridging my eth int from my voyager to a lan port
on the neatgear.I was being a monkey trying to use zipb mode on the voyager and plugging into the netgear wan port.Zipb does work but effectively just passes the wan assigned ip onto the wan port on the netgear which would never work!!!As i understand it with an external ip assigned to the wan int and the 'lan side int' there is a route out over ppooa but no route back for any traffic.
hi - having overcome the frustration of failing to get my ethernet port working (the box and manual said IC7G - the board is an IC7 (no on-board NIC)) i was hopeful of finally getting azureus to work on my machine. i first tried to upload the ready made configs to my router + firewall/tcp udp settings etc. with no joy. i then did the whole lot the long way - which was painful for someone like me, who barely understands any of this and only copies it parrot-fashion. i have succeeded in making my router stealthy and it is also much more stable (i was running bitcomet before with reasinable success, but i could rarely use my browser even with the upload rate knocked right down) but azureus just will not work. the port i configured 49210 (parrot) passes (or fails) the test at Shields Up - but it does not pass your test. azureus returns a NAT error when i test port 49210 but says that the tracker is ok and simply doesn't download - if i use one of 25000-25020 it tests ok and simply doesn't download. azureus also insists that the Nat and DHT are firewalled which i am certain is not the case.fortunately much of my hair has already fallen out, so there is little left for me to pull out. having seen azureus working properly i would very much like to get it up and running on my pc, so if you have any ideas as to what i've done wrong (i assume user error) i would very much appreciate your help.
many thanks, james
p.s i promise you, i have been through the check list countless times and i have no idea where i am going wrong.
fdoc2424: Yes, the way you have set it up - 205 ethernet port connected to one of the WAP LAN ports - does work, and of course in that setup, everything does have to be on the same subnet, and everybody's default route set to the 205's LAN IP address. That was my original way of working which I abandoned when I needed that LAN port for something else and so needed to get my 205-lookalike (DM602) working somehow into my WAP WAN port.
Zen: For a direct ethernet<->ethernet connection between the 205 and your PC to work you must be using a crossover cable. It's more usual to use a switch - both the PC and the 205 would then be connected using normal cables to ports on the switch. cor (and me!) strongly advise everyone who intends to use ethernet to connect to the 205 to get a switch - they are pretty cheap and foolproof these days.
However you do it, once you have the boxes physically connected correctly, you need to make sure your PC has a static IP address of the form 192.168.1.x where x is not zero or 255 (they are reserved) or 1 (which is used by the 205). At this point, you should be able to see the 205 configuration web pages on your PC web browser, e.g. Internet Explorer (spit). Google for how to set up a static IP address in Windows.
Hi guys,
A bit of help needed pls, I got the router last year with a BT package, ever since I have had it for the first 3 months every 5 mins the DSL light drops and comes staright back on, this is so annoying, then it went away, but it has come back again, I cannot figure it out, the connection can hold for 20 hrs the drop every 5 mins for the next 10 hrs, I have tried their technical support team who are now based in India and they are proper rubbish, have you guys got any ideas??
Aes
Operating system.XP service pack 2
home DSL connection
BT Voyager 205
Bit Tornado 0.3.7
Ports 49200-49209
port randomize is unchecked
UPnP is disabled
Kerio firewall software
AVG free anti virus
Ethernet connection...Marvell Yukon Gigabit Ethernet 10/1
Hi, Ive been trying to get ports open for Bit Tornado with no success.
I followed the guide in Portfoward.com, first I set up my client to ports 10000-10004, then I set up a static IP address going through network connections, properties etc..next I went into my router and created 5 individual rules, but I still wasn't connectable. For the last 5 or 6 months I've been connectable, managed to do it following the guide at port foward.com, but after a recent reformat, I can't get it to work again.
After resetting my router and trying portfoward several times I then tried...
http://corz.org/comms/hardware/router/bt.voyager.205_router.how-to.php..and followed this guide to the letter this included entering the NAT rule ....create nat rule entry ruleid 10000 rdr prot num 6 lcladdrfrom 192.168.1.3 lcladdrto 192.168.1.3 destportfrom num 6881 destportto num 10004... but still I wasn't connectable. Then I updated the Firmware and tried ..http://corz.org/public/docs/comms/router/ready-made/ ... which was setting up a static IP address then uploading a ready made configuration file, Voyager p2p config.zip, which uses the ports 49200-49209. I've changed the client to the same ports, but still I'm not connectable. Any help would be great before I kill my computer. I've been reading about ARSE!(or erse as we say in Scotland) would it be worth trying this? if so where can I download it, I've search n' search
Thanks,
Fangy.
the 205 reinserts from rule 10. i found that if i numbered the last stealth rule 9, it leaves both stealth rules in place. i only want web browsing and e mail, so it is a good workaround. I am still experimenting - will keep you updated. no thanks to bt or its second level techie support in india .
Thanks vof!
And Only me, good info.
Nick, it sounds more like a dodgy line than anything else. It's unusual for a router to work at certain times of the day and not others, but not so unusual for ADSL lines!
Thanks for the offer, but I recently got to grips with expect (for the first time) about three days before your post (typical!) upgrading my old automatic ftp scripts to sftp, expect was the only way I could get it all to work the way I wanted. A handy tool, that.
I'd get some tests done on the line. Especially if you changed speeds when you changed ISPs.
Zen, Aes, did you see the troubleshooting page? (link at the top)
thorpe edge, stealth rule one is ID5, the automatic rules don't interfere with it! The second one is rule ID 500000, miles away from the automatic rules. Is my original viking text file still kicking around the site, or something?
cbrrr, colinmeason, markothesharko, james, fangy, check out ARSE.
l*rz..
;o)
ps.. vof, doesn't it work with a regular cable, too? I vaguely remember someone saying it had a built-in cross-over. But yeah, best idea, as always, is.. GET A SWITCH!
Hi, in case you're interested, here's the messages I get over and over again from the router (whilst logged in via telnet).
Thu May 11 08:47:34 2006 : STATUS ALARM : ATM Interface Up : Interface - atm-0
Thu May 11 08:47:34 2006 : STATUS ALARM : ATM VC Up : Interface - aal5-0, PortId=7, Vpi=0, Vci=38
Thu May 11 08:47:34 2006 : STATUS ALARM : DSL Interface Up
Thu May 11 08:47:51 2006 : MAJOR ALARM : ATM Interface Down : Interface - atm-0
$
Thu May 11 08:47:51 2006 : WARNING : ATM VC Down : Interface - aal5-0, PortId=7, Vpi=0, Vci=38
Thu May 11 08:47:51 2006 : MAJOR ALARM : DSL Interface Down
Thu May 11 08:47:51 2006 : WARNING : PPP Interface Down : Interface - ppp-0
Thu May 11 08:47:51 2006 : MAJOR ALARM : Failed To Get IP Address : Interface - ppp-0
$Thu May 11 08:48:15 2006 : STATUS ALARM : ATM Interface Up : Interface - atm-0
I asked the ISP (Lixxus) to ask BT to check the line again. It worked over the weekend and up until 6am this Monday (15.5.6) morning.
I have obtained another BT 205 from Swindon FreeCycle (check if they have a FreeCycle in your area, it's great!) so will substitute that this evening and test again.
Cheers!
Nick (Xmas)
Aes
I had the same problem, even got a engineer from BT in,
checking line, which was fine, got a new modem from BT, a 210 which I did not use yet, the secret was just changing the bog standard RJ11 for a proper Belkin broadband optimized one!
Please please please help!! I've followed every rule on the site, and followed every step and still I cannot get my router to work. I've been trying to configure it for bittorrent but I always have about 2kb download and 30kb upload. Why is this?? I've a 2 meg connection and the torrents I try and download have at least 15 peers.
Chris Roper, did you try ARSE?
By the way, 15 peers isn't a lot, and these days folk are getting real stingy with their upload capacity. For a better test, try the Slackware torrent from the useful links section (above).
Thanks for the tip, Nick, I'm now a fully paid-up member of the Aberdeen branch!
Hugo, as Winnie-the-Pooh says, "you never can tell with Bees", or cables.
for now..
;o)
Hi does anybody know how you can unlock a Voyager 210 so it can be used on other broadband services.
Thanks
My friends Norton Anti Virus Live Update locks up when trying to connect to the update site as if the firewall is stopping it, how do I adjust the settings to allow this to happen
Wow! never in the field of human cinflict did so many owe so much to so few,
It's great to see people working together.
Can i just start by saying a "BIG UP" to the author and contributors to this website. Have have just been handed a Voyager 205 as i was having problems with my Dynamode R-ADSL-C4 (bloody frustrating will explain in another post if anybody's interested or actaully has one of these and may be able to help....). Was reasonably impressed with the 205 especially after upgrading the firmware from 1.1 to 1.8 (the previous owner had NO idea.... then again it seems i only have a little idea) however after finding this site i realised how basic my networking knowledge actually is....
Right lets get down to the simple question... Where can i get information on what the specific commands you show (which work perfectly incidentally) actaully are doing and is there any where i can get a "help" manual with the full listing of available commands and their syntax.
Sorry if the above was a little rambleing but hey!
Thanks for any help
Craig
Sorry,
Ignore the questions in the previous post.... if only i had read a little further before opening my big mouth. I found th elink to the pdf's
Sorry again
Craig
Hey, no worries Craig, at least you kept on reading, most just post and go! Thanks for the props. And diver410, you got that right mate!
Captain Scifi, the 205 shouldn't be stopping it. If you have used one of the basic setups here (Get ARSE and throw in the voyager 205 setup script - I still need to put a link somewhere prominant for ARSE, which works great) then all outbound communication is allowed by default. Even a factory-set 205 shouldn't interfere with that.
Perhaps it's the firewall on the peecee that's blocking it, maybe Norton itself, which isn't as unlikely as it seems.
At the end of the day, I recommend uninstalling any software that's been sold to Symantec, because if it hasn't already been turned to crap, it soon will be. But that's just my personal take on things.
There are some excellent, FREE Anti-Virus applications around, AntiVir, Avast, etc. Check them out.
FFC, check out the other voyager router page.
And 2091 users, too. Great news; yesterday, the BT Voyager 2091 was cracked! That's right! Thanks to Alessio's fine work, we now have a working unlocked firmware for the WiFi beast. Enjoy!
l*rz..
;o)
i have the bt voyager 210 and i was wondering if any1 had any nat rules for this as i use bitcomet turbo and it says nat problems and i dont know how to make a nat rule on the voyager 210
Hello everyone, I just found a tool called DMT - http://dmt.mhilfe.de/ which can be used (I think) to monitor DSL modem/routers.
The version for use with GlobspanVirta (e.g. My BT Voyager 205) is version 2.11
The only problem is it is in German, with my GCSE German Im able to understand the basics and semi-guess the rest, but its still scary to be clicking on things when you dont know what they mean - I doubt there is a button for "Kill Router" but I just dont know!
It does look very promising, so if anyone else has used it before or knows anything about it it would be great! - Esp a DE-GB translation of the options / buttons.
Thanks in advance!
can someone please help?
ive had the bt voyager 205 for over a year it is pissing me off big time.im trying to use azureus with it and i have manged to forward the ports and firewall after a year?
but after say 20 mins or so of azureus running it stops all my internet connections azureus and internet? and the only way to get it back is to restart the comp? it has done it on this one and another so its not the comp its this sorry excuse for a router.can some one please tell me how to delete all firewall rules and disable all that so it will not be a problem again ive tryed all the stuff above so please really i dont care i just want to kill everything the firewall the lot how? ive got a ip bla ect get nat ok everything just this? thanks
@angel, see here.
Thanks Marcus. Did you check out the public archives? We have similar apps in French and English! This German one looks very nice, particularly the gain sliders; interesting. Perhaps we can get the source and recompile an English version.
st3v13b, try the reset switch in the rear of the unit. Then read the pages here for how to get the thing to work. This gets it done quickly.
;o)
note: the next few days of comments had to be reconstructed by hand, after an "accident", so dates and times will be screwed up (fixed afterwards, but still)
Hi All, can I just say, what a brilliant site. So much helpful information.
I installed a 205 for my Mum's DSL a few weeks ago, basic installation, remote HTTP administration of the 205 enabled, and remote control of her PC installed with port forwarding. Fantastic, now I can look after Mum from the comfort of my own study. All installed and working in minutes.
Then the trouble starts! I thought it would be sensible to upgreade the firmware to 1.8. Which I did remotely no problem, but now the router has disappeared, no remote access is available, no port forwarding works. Is this some added security in firmware 1.8? My Mum still has her Internet, so it's working perfectly well for outgoing connections.
Many thanks
Paul
Hi,
I loose my connection every five minutes. No I'm not using USB!!!
Most of the time it's fine but every couple of months it starts doing this.
Even when disconnected from the computer the router 205 does it. The 105 USB also does it.
( I feel like it's after we've had heavy rain )
( We are near the limit from the exchange for broadband)
BT come, look, do something somewhere. Can't find any actual faults and then it works for a few months.
Boring ~ I kNOW!
Anyone else had this? Anyone else got any suggestions?
Thanks.
Hux, firstly, the v1.6 is recommended. Having said that, *any* version of the firmware, when first installed, will not allow outside admin access. That's something you always have to configure manually from the inside.
What to do is download ARSE, and make a wee script of the neccessary commands, then get your mum to install and run it on her machine. If all goes to plan, you should get access immediately thereafter. Task number one: change the user/pass to something other than admin/admin!
If you have a fixed IP, even better, set that as the admin IP (see the tricks page for more details), for enhanced security.
note: you can also change the port used for admin access, a very good idea.
great2cyou, it definitely sounds like line trouble. Unless you are willing to either a) hassle BT continuously until they (maybe) renew the line, or b) pay for them to do it, then you just have to pretty much sit it out, or else perhaps consider some other form of internet access.
There are supposed to be balloons up there somewhere in testing, and satellite is always an (expensive) option, though not much use if you are a gamer. Those hydro electric net-thru-yer-mains trials seemed to have fizzled out, but there's certainly many options I haven't considered and others I am not aware of, being a city-dweller.
At the end of the day, living in the styx usually means limited internet access. I know folk that have to stuggle by with a 14Kb connexion. Imagine it!
;o)
Thanks Cor,
do you or anybody know what the five minutes pulse is about. The only thing I've found is Bigpond.net in Australia (used to) use it. Some sort of 'heartbeat' that checks for a connection it's satisfied with and resets it if it's not happy. It's weird that it works for months then goes again. Wondering if BT can switch it off or something. I'm trying not to cry at the thought of dial up!
Absolutely brilliant site BTW.
I've tried everything to get port-forwarding to work, and Ive nearly given up completely.
I see below the Useful Links part of this page that you've suggested that a switch would be best, would that sort port-forwarding problems? would data flow fully to the switch, then into wherever it's going?
Great site you've got mate, looks like a lot of work and time has went into it , pitty I couldn't get it working, though it's most likely something on my end, or something I'm not doing right
Thanks
Cor,
I am trying to get this zipb thing to work with my router. Unfortunately it doesnt work. It does work when plugged to my winxp box but not my router. It doesnt even work if i boot into linux instead of winxp. Is the implementation of this zipb not even worth trying? Do you know of anybody that has got it working? Do you know any other way to get this modem to bridge when my isp uses pppoa.
Thanks.
Hey,i was just wondering, once you have entered all those cmds into the telnet console, do you have to type "reboot" and reboot the router?
OK I NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE COMMAND TO CHANGE THE MTU COMMAND IS PLEASE!!
I have setup a Ventrilo server on my home LAN which works just fine on the LAN (setup for port 3784 - TCP). Unfortunately I can't seem to open the appropriate ports on the voyager 205! Scanning using grc.com shows the router port 3784 as being closed as does a local scan using nmap. I have implemented the 2 golden rules for stealth, a rule to allow TCP on port 3784 and the appropriate NAT rule. All computers on the LAN have fixed IPs and DCHP mode has been set to 'none'...
Could it be that my network hub is causing trouble? Its a Unex NexSwitch SD080s. It it connected to the Voyager via the uplink port...
Any help much appreciated as this has been an issue on the back burner for nearly a year now!
PS Great site!
Hi.
Great site, really helpful
I've done all that i needed as described on the site, and BitTornado now downloads faster (though not by much), and has the status light turned green (no firewall, all systems go, and lots of remote connections)
however - as i went to close my telnet session, i noticed every two min or so i get this popping up -
"WARNING : ATM VC Congested : Interface - aal5-0, PortId=7, Vpi=0, Vci=38"
BitTornado is still working perfectly along with my browser and email client, with no obvious slowdown or other problems.
Is it something i should worry about?
Hi i share the 205 i use the ethernet and the person i share it with uses the usb, i am a total noob with this and i was wondering if there was any commands to prevent the person i share it with from using bittorrent, as he is addicted to it and im fed up with him, it eats the whole connection, any help on how to block him would be great thanks
voyager newbie, a switch doesn't in any way affect port-forwarding, it simply enables you to connect multiple devices to the router/internet/each other/etc.
Get ARSE, and make life easy on yourself. I'll put a link to ARSE somewhere prominent, in fact, I'll do that now. Done.
Jav, it's not perfect, but it does work. Check out VOf's posts on this page, and the notes below the zipb section on the tricks page. It depends on what router you are trying to connect to. Often forgetting zipb altogether is thew way forward.
barry, only certain commands require a reboot (generally commands dealing with the ppp connexion, etc.) If you download a few arse scripts, you will see only one or two contain a reboot command.
HELP!!!!!, you probably don't need to alter the MTU, in fact. What's the problem?
James, apparently that switch has built-in port blocking. Check the manual to see how to open that up. If you test without the unit in place and it works, you can be certain that this is the issue.
Withnail, those messages are quite normal. When you are running P2P apps, etc., expect to see those pop up every minute or so, every few seconds if you really push it. You can happily ignore them.
henry, unfortunately, there's no easy way to do this. The 205 comes with the ability to allow clients (your peecees) to access on a time-specific basis, so you could use that to limit the times he can access the internet.
Other than that, you are probably looking at some kind of intelligent router (perhaps a Linux box) that can do real traffic management, limiting upload/download rates, etc. You could do it on your windows box, too, and perhaps use ICS to provide the second connexion.
Note: When you use both the ethernet AND USB sockets on the device, the USB takes priority. It is usually a much better idea to use only the ethernet, connect it to a switch, and then the other peecees can connect to that.
At the end of the day, the very best method would probably be to ASK him to impose some sensible limits on his activities. He probably isn't eating up the bandwidth (unlikely, unless he's managed to create port-forwarding rules on the 205) It's more likely that it's simply sucking up all the 205's resources, and taking priority over your ethernet connexion.
Get a switch. If you can afford one with built-in traffic management features, all the better!
l*rz..
;o)
Hi guys,
I just recently tried to setup a web server behind a voyager 205 by using NAT. Things didn't go as planned and remote boxes were unable to connect so I started to do a little troubleshooting. I removed the NAT rules and the firewall rules to see if I could do a simple http port 80 connection to the voyager from a remote location and found that even with the firewall down and no NAT rules it was still not possible to connect to the voyager. So I did a port scan to see what was going on and here was the output (from a remote box):
(The 1642 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
PORT STATE SERVICE
21/tcp open ftp
23/tcp open telnet
80/tcp filtered http
135/tcp filtered msrpc
137/tcp filtered netbios-ns
138/tcp filtered netbios-dgm
139/tcp filtered netbios-ssn
445/tcp filtered microsoft-ds
1214/tcp filtered fasttrack
1352/tcp filtered lotusnotes
1433/tcp filtered ms-sql-s
1434/tcp filtered ms-sql-m
1524/tcp filtered ingreslock
1525/tcp filtered orasrv
4899/tcp filtered radmin
6346/tcp filtered gnutella
6667/tcp filtered irc
6668/tcp filtered irc
6699/tcp filtered napster
6969/tcp filtered acmsoda
7000/tcp filtered afs3-fileserver
Now the first thing that I found startling was the vast number of services running on the public interface which don't seem to be running on the private interface. And the second was that while telnet and ftp were not filtered http came up as filtered even with no firewall running. Curious?!?!?
Does anyone know of any access control file or hidden firewall rules that can be causing this strange behaviour?
Further to the last note I tried setting up port forwarding to a web server by using domain:81 and forwarding incoming tcp port 81 traffic to the web server. This worked both with and without the firewall. However, forwarded traffic incoming on port 80 doesn't get to the webserver. I can only assume that there is some kind of web access control configuration that doesn't allow this. Does anyone know how I can stop it?
me (sigh), first it sounds like you are running some crazy version of the firmware. If so, let us know, and export it before you do anything else; I want to see it! Then feel free to drop in the tried-and-heavily-tested v1.6 from my archives.
There's nothing in the 205, as we know it, that will prevent outside access on port 80, after you remove the built-in firewall rules, a-la "RAD" (now an ARSE script). I ran a web server behind my 205 for a long time (I no longer have a 205 on my gateway, but still run the server).
All those "services" you are seeing with the firewall and NAT down are most likely the ALG's which I assume you didn't delete. Along with the actual servers; telnet, http, etc, that enable WAN-side admin access for crazy folk.
So, drop in a good firmware, download and run ARSE (link at the top of the page), download and activate Basic-Voyager-205-setup.arse and httpd.arse, and you're done, should be.
;o)
Hi cor,
I've read the scripts you mention and they are pretty much the exact same as stuff I've already done, give or take a ruleid number. I've deleted the alg's. Didn't make any difference and couldn't really see why it would have anyway. It looks like it may be a firmware thing as you have suggested. I'll try updating the firmware and see if it makes a difference. I assume I have the old firmware as I've never updated it.
Oh dear!
Ijust checked my system info and I'm running version 1.1 According to BT the latest and greatest is 1.8
I guess that means I had old firmware eh? Is that particularly bad? Are there any security issues with the old firmware? How do we know the new firmware is any better? Why wouldn't the port forwarding work on port 80 just because it has old firmware when port forwarding works fine on port 81?
How do I export the old firmware?
I've ftp'd in and had a look around and can't find any TEblah.bin image anywhere. Am I missing something? Also can somebody post a direct link to the v1.6 firmware? I've had a look around the public directory and subdirectories and can't find it anywhere.
Hi cor,
Simple question, On the BTVoyager205 (v1.8) should I use NAT Virtual servers or port forwards to open my internal web, ftp, and smtp servers, to the outside world? Normally I'd use port forwords but since reading the built in help info it sounds like the NAT virtual servers thing might be a better way to go.
mub -
Hi mub,
The web interface that creates NAT Virtual Servers basically creates NAT port forwarding rules. If you create a rule with the web interface and then do a
get nat rule entry
from the CLI in a telnet session you will see that it has basically just created a port forwarding rule just as you would have done from the CLI
cor,
That makes sense. I'll use the CLI seeing as it's more straight forward.
Thanks Geeza.
mub -
Cor,
I just had a thought about an easy way of removing those rules the 205 automatically adds when it boots.
Can the delete command be used in a config file? If it can I'm guessing the router would boot up with those rules in place but when it loads the config the delete commands would remove them.
Is that do able?
mub -
EDIT: I'm not keen on testing this out myself uncase it renders the router useless and I'm assuming you've tried this at some point anyway.
hi mub,
it works and has been done before, tried and tested.
Hmm... I don't seem to able to set a lease time on the dhcp server using the command listed in the zipb section (" create dhcp server pool poolid 0 start-ip 192.168.1.3 end-ip 192.168.1.5 mask 255.255.0.0 gwy 192.168.1.1 lease 60 mlease 120").
Do I need to upgrade the firmware (its on v1.1) or is the command syntax incorrect?
Even more strange behaviour!
While I cannot access my port forwarded webserver from my remote server the anonymizer service at anonymizer.com http://anon.free.anonymizer.com/http://lamie.org seems to have no trouble accessing my webserver and viewing the placeholder page using port 80.
A version detection scan with nmap on ports 80 and 81 from the remote server which cannot access the placeholder page gives the following output.
PORT STATE SERVICE VERSION
80/tcp filtered http
81/tcp open http Apache httpd 1.3.33 ((Debian GNU/Linux))
All ALGs have been deleted. This all stinks of IP based access control. Why would anonymizer.com have no trouble being able to view the page and my remote server be denied access otherwise?
me, I can access your server just fine, your "Placeholder page".
When you say "my remote server", what exactly do you mean? Something truly remote? Like, "out there", or what? Most folk have this exact same trouble because they are attempting to access their server via its "outside" address, whilst actually being "inside" the LAN, which isn't possible, not without hacking your local hosts. See the recipes page for more details.
The trouble sounds like it's at the "remote server" end of things.
Nat, yes. v1.6 is best. Check out the public archives, in the "Firmware" folder.
;o)
I tried it from lynx on truth.positive-internet.com which is definitely remote. I got a friend to try it from an NTL broadband connection and that worked fine but I know that all NTL broadband traffic is proxied through NTL web-proxies. I also tried it through a anglia ruskin university private proxy and things worked fine there as well. Weird or what!
Version detection from the uni proxy correctly enumerates apache
PORT STATE SERVICE VERSION
80/tcp open http Apache httpd
Just out of interest, what bugs are actually fixed by upgrading from v1.1 I haven't had any major problems with the router as is. When I first used it I was using the BT communicator for free phone calls and the router would block up when I hung up a phone call but I don't use the communicator anymore (free thingy has ran out) so it never really hangs at all. Is there any real benefit to upgrading? Because BT tell me that if my router breaks during an upgrade then they are not willing to send me a replacement.
Ok, the problem is on battlefield 2 only about 100 servers show up and all the menus freeze and respond incredibly slowly, when I typed in the MTU commands and a few others that I can't remember everything freed up and about 4000 servers appeared,the same with steam games only a few servers appaer and they stop responding and cut my internet off,I've tried opening all the ports etc but nothing seems to work except for those 3-4 cmds I typed into telnet a long time ago. I've got the latest firmware(v1.8).
Hi again,
I was just wondering if there is a way to block ALL ip address's except for a select one or two using the voyager's ip filtering option. If there is could you please point me in the right direction.
Thanks,
Jim
I've used the basic voyager setup ARSE script, set-up static IP addresses on my network and the EMule ARSE script (having changed IP settings - My computer's IP address is 192.168.2.3).
However, I'm still getting a low ID, and on the p2p probe on this site, I still get "connexion timed out (probably stealthed)", for both port 4662 and 4672.
My voyager modem is connected to a Belkin router and my computer to that via a wireless connection.
Am I missing anything - help please!
me, yes! Very weird! As for the firmware, I'm a great believer in "if it ain't broke, don't fix it, and if you are happy enough with your v1.1 firmware, leave it in.
Having said that, upgrading the firmware is a fairly trivial procedure; there's a web page for it, and BT recommend you do it every time they release an upgrade, so why not suck-it-and-see. You can always put back your v1.1 afterwards, if you really want to.
The main bugs that were fixed were the issues with locking when using SIP (BT Communicator, etc) but locking also occurred when using other software, particularly games. There were also improvements to the ALGs, a couple of minor security fixes, etc. Anecdotal evidence suggests it messed with a few incoming ports, too.
barry, I'm inclined to believe it was the *other* commands that made the impact, what were they? Check out the ARSE scripts for games, there are various tweaks and hacks in there, mainly to do with time-out settings. Rememebr, you only have 511 TCP sessions to play with; hunting for game servers will fill that up pretty quickly, at which point everything dies.
Jim, create two firewall rules. The first, allowing communication with your chosen IP adresses, the second denying access from ALL IP addresses. Grab the PDF's for the exact commands.
Adam, probably your Belkin (or whatever else is between the voyager and the computer) is preventing the incoming connexions, check the manual.
for now..
;o)
Here are two software programs I recommend:
Easyterm.exe at www.arachnoid.com and cports.zip at public.planetmirror.com or www.puremango.co.uk. The former has a GUI and will enable writing commands to the Voyager, the latter will quickly shows ports in use and all the details you wish.
Cheers,
Radioman
Will a BT 205 handle a 8mb connection?
Yes.
;o)
Hi Cor and Others,
I really like my Voyager 205 and am keen to use it as my primary router (I have a collection of about 5 from various places)... However the one think I would really like is better logging facilities - the builtin ones (in default config) are really just not good enough for my needs.
I want to be able to log all system events such as PPP messages, connection / disconnection events and Firewall activities, basically logging as much as possible.
I am happy to run an application on one of my Windows servers to monitor the router if thats the only way - can someone point me in the direction of a guide to doing this - I've heard of various applications like MTRG or PRGT or something like that also KiwiLog or something - sorry I dont know their proper names - im doing it all from memory!
So how do I export the old firmware? I can't for the life of me find it. Which directory does it reside in?
Just ot myhands on a Voyager 205, excellent site and now it's secure now...
Guys, first all this is a fanastic site.
Here's my problem, i have a voyager 205 i never switched it off since i got it, but recently i can not access the internet, i have reset the a box manually, but this has not done anything. All the ports within 'device manager' are enabled and connected, when i run a repair via 'bt desktop health check' the error message 'DNS purging' could not be resolved, i have also done the ipcongi release/ etc. but to no avail. please help.
Hi Marcus. Check out the tricks page, if you haven't already; I did a section all about this. Although there's a link to a page of windows apps that can do the actual logging, it generally a better idea to point it at a real *nix box, if you have one handy.
By the way, I haven't delved too deeply into external logging, so if you find out anything juicy, do let us know!
me, check out the admin page selectors (above these comments), the backup/restore page is what you are after.
Nicholson, yikes! If it were me I would probably first add a few manual DNS servers (in the advanced tab of the TCP/IP properties for the local connexion), see if that helps. If not, I'd probably delete the network interface and reinstall it (or rather, let windows reinstall it).
The question is always, "what changed?". Routers have a bad name, and folk seem to expect them to be at the root (route?) of all network troubles, but usually this is not the case. Most routers are fairly simple in design, and once setup, should only be "tweaked" when absolutely necessary.
Did you install any new network-related software, perhaps? A new NIC? If possible, try and think back to before it went haywire; the most insignificant change can sometimes have disasterous results.
Folk with Windows automatic updates enabled often find that things suddenly stop working, and they don't know why because they "didn't do anything". But they did; they enabled Windows automatic update, generally a mistake!
If it's still not happening, get back here with as much information as you can; error messages, netstat output; whatever you think might be relevant. Go with any hunches you might have, they are usually accurate.
Thanks Bar, and others. I do try, though lately I've been a bit tied up and my update schedule is all to hell. Watch out for the new Windows® area coming soon; there will be tools, tips, tricks and more. All in time.
l*rz..
;o)
Hi....pretty impressive information...
Basically I'm new to all this router business and I need to adjust the NAT on the Voyager from strict to lenient or something similar...this is for XBOX Live....any ideas?
Or is the allow everything rule the one I should be looking at?
Bill, I don't know what you mean by the "allow everything rule" ("perfect stealth"?), but if you follow the link for ARSE (at the top of the page) there's a script especially for games consoles.
There has been some debate over the best settings, and you might want to load this page with all comments (if your browser can handle it!) and do a quick type-to-find.
At the end of the day, tweaking is usually necessary; settings that work perfectly for one game, may not be so perfect for another.
Have fun!
;o)
Hi, Dont spose you know how to get this BT 205 Voyager modem/router to operate with my belkin wireless router. as i can get everything to work fine, until i enable wep on the belkin router then it cant connect to the internet.
I have found these settings whether their anything to do with it:
VPI = 0
VCI = 38
Mode = Multimode (or g.dmt)
QoS = UBR
PPPoA with VC MUX (or VC Based / RFC 2364)
CHAP authentication
But not sure what i have to do with them.
Does the 205 actuallly support wep?
Thanks!
what are TCPs and how do i find out how many i have??
Have just got hold of a 205 and found this great resource (your site!) which tells me all about it.
Having now played for hours trying to get a connection using the ethernet port, I admit to failing miserably. However, I can connect easily using the USB connection (arghhh!)- but would really like to use the ethernet link instead. Exactly, step by step, how can I do this?
I am running Win XP Home with all updates and have a Netgear EN104 hub connecting to my wifes computer running Win 2000 Pro. I would ideally like to allow Internet access to both machines independently using the hub - is this at all possible?
What settings would I have to change, what cables would I need - crossover or straight through, should I be using the uplink port on the hub etc.etc.
As a silver surfer as you can no doubt see, I am new to all this having opted for the 205 in place of a Speedtouch Modem for security reasons.
I'm sure one of you out there has had these problems before but I can find no mention of it anywhere - plesae help if you can.
Regards and thanks for a great website,
Richard
Hiya
Hope someone can help me. I need to un-install and re-install bt voyager 210.
my problem is that Internet explorer got opened and the gateway ip of pc entered and then through the admin screen in advanced settings something was changed, since this time, internet has not connected and router knocked off (I think). Hope someone can help me. I need to un-install everything to do with the bt voyager and re-install.
I tried to uninstall, and Ive deleted all bt (obvious things) throught add/remove. I ve been into programme files and deleted there too but Bt voyager and manager file still in all programmes. When I put in voyager disc, this starts up loading at 75% giving me only the connection bit to test voyager router to internet connection. Im really stuck and getting very fustrated with this!
Many thanks
Hi Barry,
TCP is the transmission control protocol. It is a protocol used to ensure packets of data arrive in sequence when transmitted accross the internet. It also detects if any data packets have been lost in transit and resends them if they have. I should imagine you only have the 1 TCP just like the rest of us.
Hi Welsh Dragon,
if the problem is as a result of changing some setting through the web interface then uninstalling components on your pc is unlikely to help matters.
You need to browse around inside the router and find what you have changed. You need to go through some kind of troubleshooting process.
1) Do the lights on the router light up?
2) Is it possible to ping the router using say ping 192.168.1.1?
3) Is it possible to establish a telnet session with telnet 192.168.1.1?
4) Once logged into the router via telnet is it possible to ping google or traceroute google?
5) What are the firewall rules? get ipf rule entry
etc?
use the 'get ?' command to see what other bits of information you can glean. Do a bit a of troubleshooting and come back and tell us what works and doesn't work.
Hi Cor,
I have a suggestion for your site (which is by now the only place to come for 205 hack-how).
The quick stealth script is very good for beginners. But allowing all outgoing traffic can be a dangerous strategy, especially in a world dominated by windows (l)users who probably have a stack of viri all too happy to take advantage of unlimited outgoing statefully returned traffic.
Perhaps the community could benefit from a quick page dedicated to locking down outgoing traffic as well.
hi me
thanks for the info. Ive tried entering the ip into intrenet explorer but will not open router. Im not quite that up to date with routers as I us a dsl on my pc and this is my friends pc with the problem. I know that its not installed through a usb hub but through ethernet. I thought that just uninstalling everything with internet and re-installing should solve the problem. With my own pc this is all i have to do. So its the blind leading the blind in this case. so un-installing and putting it back on would be the most easiest option that browsing and going into other programmes that i dont understand. Do you have any other suggestions?
thanks
Tom, no, the 205 doesn't support WEP, but it doesn't need to; it has no WiFi capability. You want to plug the 205 into the uplink port of your belkin, i.e. the 205 feeds the belkin, the belkin feeds the puters.
Rick, ethernet doesn't need configuration, really; you just cable things together, and assuming the cards are correctly setup, it should work without any interference. You will perhaps want to go on and setup static IPs, etc, but it should work okay with no human involvement other than plugging in cables.
Sharing is easy enough. If you can afford it, replace the hub with a decent switch (see useful links). If not, connect the 205 to the hub's uplink port (if it has one) and plug everything else into the hub.
You might want to remove the USB drivers (and associated software) first; they tend to interfere with things.
me (thanks for the input!). Blocking outgoing connexions is something you really want to do at the application level, i.e. on a local peecee firewall. Attempting to block trojans and virii at the gateway is false security; many trojans these days are smart enough to use (or adapt to) fairly common ports, so blocking say, port 80, isn't really a lot of use.
Since moving my security arrangements to the gateway (205, whatever) I wanted a simpler firewall on my peecee, basically just for the outgoing stuff. I used to use ZoneAlarm Pro, but it has many foibles, and is overkill when the gateway is doing all the really hard work (ie. blocking inbound "attacks").
I now use SPF (Sygate Personal Firewall v5.6) the last free version before Symantec bought them over (the death knell of many a good firewall - remember the excellent @guard before Synamtec destroyed it?). It is small in size, small in resource footprint, and quite unobstrusive, alterting me only when some unknown (or changed) application attempts to connect to the internet. Perfect.
I think this is the best way to deal with trojans and the like.
welsh dragon, you might have more luck on the non-205 page.
l*rz..
;o)
Corz
Great site its been a godsend with my 205 Router so I wanted to give you a "heads up" over a potential problem.
You might want to give thought to changing the time server address on this page to either ntp1.npl.co.uk or ntp2.npl.co.uk as thats the addresses for the United Kingdom Atomic clocks as the "Time Lords" are requesting that time servers be directed to the main clocks rather than University servers.
Stuart.
Well, Stuart, I definitely don't want to go messing with the Time Lords, so I changed it, to pool.ntp.org, a nice safe bet. Thanks.
I'm curious, though. Why don't the Time Lords want us connecting to the university time servers? They are always so accurate!
;o)
I think its a case of everyone connecting to the same time servers rather than a "distributed load"
I found this quite by accident, I mentioned the NPL's Atomic Clocks in a joke in my blog and someone at the NPL who thought it was funny e-mailed me about it with the links to a tech article about D-Link's products swamping the same time server http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4906138.stm
And a couple of other articles about distributing the "time load" because when you think about it those clocks set virtually every other clock in the world.
Corz,
Great site, it has helped me out no-end - especially with the Xbox settings. However I keep getting my internet connection dropping out, with a DNS failure. The only way to fix it, is to power down the router then power it back on again. After ringing BT, I was told (by a man with a script) that they (the 205's) do not support more than one PC and a console, and I should connect the PC to the 205 with a USB cable, and the Xbox with ethernet. So when I told him I had 2 PC's, an Xbox and a wireless access point connected, running at least 2 laptops, he didn't know what to say, and kept repeating "one PC via USB, console via ethernet". After I pointed out I was a computer engineer and new a little about routers and switches and why was DNS failing he more or less hung up on me. Can you help please? Why does DNS keep failing? Is there a way of fixing this so I don't have to keep rebooting the router?
Cheers
Thanks, Stuart, I'd better take a look at the ARSE scripts, ensure I don't have any "wee" time servers in there.
BiG Vern, hi. I've never had DNS trouble, and I reckon it's because I always have oodles of backup DNS servers plugged in all over the place, so the first thing I'd recommend is adding a couple of good ones to your 205 (there's instructions on how to do this in the tricks page)
In theory, if the first fails, requests get routed to the second, and so on. You might want to add a few backup server addresses to your local machines, WiFi gateway, etc.
You can clear out your local (peecee) DNS cache like this (in the shell/command prompt)..If the issue is local to one machine, that is a useful command. If all your machines are affected it won't help much, you need to work on the gateway; our beloved 205.
On the 205, you can do..(self-explanatory) and change the rate of polling (here, to 5 minutes)..If errors occur in the polling, the 205 should throw up a "DNS servers not responding" error in the console. If you telnet into the router and keep the console open (all night, if need be), you should see the errors, if any.
After all that, check you aren't maxing out your upload capacity. You need to keep it within around 80% of your maximum capability, or else there isn't enough bandwidth for DNS requests to escape the LAN in the first place, let alone return.
for now..
;o)
Hi, i dont know why is my internet going too slow, im using BT voyager 205 and sometimes is disconnect itselves and always very slow. i collect the router to pc using ethernet.
can you help me sort this out?
And whats that BT website for? is it for my router? But my real status is not this huge ammount of data, after i surfed internet and playing online games all day it is like about 60thousand data sent but in my friends house they have xxx,xxx,xxx data just for a few hours..
Last thing: what is that ARSE thing for, does it makes you better organised? or faster internet? I really want to hv faster internet im paying about 30 pound a month and i get this slow internet
Hey
Anyone know if it's possible to make the 205 forward ICMP echo requests to a machine inside the LAN, and for replies to make it back out? Effectively when someone pings the public IP, the internal machine would receive and handle the pings and respond accordingly.
This is to make an ICMP tunnel work, with the LAN machine behind the 205 acting as the server or proxy part (See http://www.cs.uit.no/~daniels/PingTunnel ).
Would it involve accepting ICMP with a "create ipf rule ..." command, and forwarding it with a "create nat rule" rule? Does anyone know the actual syntax I would need?
Thanks!
Jeff Chan, that's not a website, per se; it's the 205's built-in web server. Those pages exist on the router.
And ARSE simply enables you do do all the nitty-gritty telnet stuff automatically. You create a script, and ARSE send it to the router, very simple. If you make a script that improves the connexion, then ARSE will apply it for you. Such scripts, and many more, are available from the arse page. The basic 205 setup script is pretty much essential, the others are optional.
Your figures look reasonable. It's not possible to compare someone else's outgoing totals with your own (even presuming they use the same scale, not KB, or MB, or something). You could download for ten hours flat out at 240KB/s, GB's of data, and have almost zero outgoing bytes. That's not so unusual.
As to your speed, are you sure? Go download something from microsoft, or a fast sourceforge server or something, and then you will see. Chances are you can download at 220Kb/s+, no problem. P2P and torrents aren't a very effective speed test, unless the torrent is well known, and very well seeded. Did you try the torrent in the Useful Links section?
Towelie, check the tricks page.
;o)
cor, thanks for the pointer, but I couldn't see what I needed there ... am I missing something? :q
Thanks for putting together this site btw, it's been extremely helpful since I got the router!
Cheers
I went on http://www.speedtester.bt.com/ and my download speed is 1820kilo bits per second(Kbps) is it a usually result?
But i really dont get why my internet dissconnect sometimes. and so is that built-in web server shows my data sent and in?? but it should not be that much..
Towelie, check the "connectivity Tools" section, right here. Something as simple as this..should do the trick.
Check the PDFs for more details of the different ICMP types. You may need to play around some, but perhaps not. Let us know how it goes, that Ping Tunnel thing looks very interesting.
Jeff Chan, different sites will give different results (a fast FTP site is probably the most accurate test), but that seems about right for a BT connexion.
As for cutting out; check the troubleshooting page; there are a couple of important things to watch out for; upload capacity, and maximum TCP connexions. If you go over the limit on either, your connexon will suffer.
If those things are within the limits, perhaps you might want to call BT and ask them to run a test on the line. I generally blame the ISP first, and my own setup last.
for now..
;o)
Possible to tweak the maximum downstream sync speed.
Hello everyone,
Is it possible to tweak the maximum downstream sync speed, the reason I as is that with ADSL Max now available in the UK many users are finding that their connection is a bit unstable because their lines are syncing at their absolute limit.
Other routers have the ability to set the maximum downstream sync speed in the interface, the Belkin one is a good example.
Is it possible to do this with the Voyager 205?
The only command I could find that may do the job is:
modify dsl config maxdnrate 0xFF (replace 0xFF with hex for max rate)
I think that may be a new command in 1.8 as I cannot find it in the PDF files (CLI Guide ones)
Thanks in advance.
need some screen shots with router light status.....
Towelie, check the "connectivity Tools" section, right here. Something as simple as this..
create ipf rule entry ruleid 11 ifname public dir in transprot eq icmp icmptype eq num 11 act accept seclevel high medium low
should do the trick.
cor, thanks, but won't that just allow the router itself to receive pings? I'm not sure how to get it to forward those pings to a machine on the lan, which would host the ping tunnel.
What actually happens if you put more than 20 rules in asnyways? Because you can put in more than 20 going through telnet, put if you do it going through the router, it tells you you can only put in 20.
Oh dear guys
Fussing over a few KBs
Go ADSL2+! I'm on 22,131 (2.3 MB/sec)
Marcus, that's not something I've ever played with, even knew existed on the 205. Feel free to mess around with that and report back any interesting findings.
kirubhakaran, you mean like the ones on this page?
Neospace, a fitting title for you. Because it's possible to create ranges with the 205, I have personally had no need to breach the 20 rule limit. Why not enter this new space, and discover for us? Slam in a heap of rules over telnet and see if the last ones still work.
sb742, well it's clear what the "SB" stands for!
Good on ye, m8!
We are suitably jealousified!
;o)
OK, I had a play with it just now. Forwarding ICMP on the 205 is as simple as
create nat rule entry ruleid ruleid rdr prot icmp lcladdrfrom internalip lcladdrto internalip
I'll install the ping tunnel server and give it a try when I'm away next week
Anyone got any idea on this problem I have. about every 5 minutes I get 3 'MAJOR ALARM' warnings. ATM, DSL & PPP interfaces down. I do operate this through a switch, but for the purpose of this information, it occurs without this in the network. I have cat 5, solid core cable of 30 metres running from Router to PC. I have had BT check the line and their end out twice and they report no problem. I am running either W2k server, W2k Advanced server or XP Pro. Error occurs on all Operating Systems. The firmware version is 1.6. I have set various things on the router. ie. tcpidletimeout=900, tcpclosewait=30, tcptimeout=10 & udptimeout=15.
If anyone has any thoughts on this or can think of anything I can try please let me know. Thank you.
Marcus.
The 'FF' hexvalue is the max rate and equates to 8Mbit download rate. the equation is dlr/32+1 (where 'dlr' = download rate), so 255 (which is hex 'FF' the '0x' only means that the number that follows is hex, by the way) is equal to 8128 (254*32). So i am on a 2Mbit line. One would normally set it to 200-300 lower so, perhaps, 1792, which is; 1792/32+1 = 56+1 = 57 (base 10). base 16 = 39, so set 'modify dsl config maxdnrate 39'.
With reference to my last post, I am going to try this and monitor it to see if my disconnection problem stops. I have also got new filters installed.
Ok, i have my NAT setting at strict for my 360, which does not allow me to join other routers
(about half the people on xbox live) My computer is broken.Can i hook up my router at a friends house and change it from strict to open(will the change apply at my house?)
thanks for the help
Joshua C. Hedges, thanks for the info. The disconnexions are mysterious, bu then, they usually are. They are usually ISP-related, too (unless folk use USB, of course). If anything a switch improves matters, because it's a more constant client to attach to the router.
If your router keeps disconnecting with its default (factory) settings, the problem is most likely with your ISP. LAN-side troubles shouldn't affect the 205 at all, unless you were all engaging in a DDOS or something.
At the end of the day, these types of troubles tend to go away after a day or two. Not very scientific, I know, but ISP's are notorious for saying that everything is okay at their end, even when it's not, even when you present them with data to the contrary.
Towelie, that command looks like it won't do much, but so do a few other Viking commands. I look forward to seeing the results.
Sherman 128, try ARSE. Link at the top of the page. And yes, so long as you "commit" at the end of the setup, the settings will remain, so you can configure it from any machine, anywhere, even while it's still plugged in at your own house; but that is probably beyond the scope of this reply. Check the tricks page if you want more details of that.
;o)
Hi cor,
I need to setup my voyager 205 up as a bridge. I have 2 NIC's in my a server. NIC-1 is connected to the voyager 205, NIC-2 is connected to the hub. I have no trouble configuring the server as a Firewall and NAT'ing gateway I just need to configure the router.
It would be ideal if NIC-1 gets handed the real IP which is usually given to the WAN side of the router. If this is not possible I'm guessing I'll need a static route.
I've spent the last 3 nights messing about with my router without success. It looks like I need to setup an EoA interface to replace the PPP one for the bridge to work but the PDF guides and built in help files are not clear to me.
Can you help ?
If you have a bridging setup for the 205 I would be very grateful if you could email it to me.
Further info:
My Voyager 205 is using v1.8 of the firmware.
I don't want any firewall filters on the the router as the firewall on the server will handle that for me.
Many Thanks,
mub
Hi again,
I should explain why I want to try the bridge. I router mode I have the correct NAT and IPF's in place but the 205 is still stealthing some of the ports I asked it to open. Specifically I want port 63392 (Live for Speed server) to be open and forwarded to the server PC. The 205 has no trouble with ports 80, 21, and 25 as my web, ftp, and smtp servers all work fine. Could be it be that the 205 does not like opening very high numbered port?
I was using a BEWAN PCI ADSL card for ages and had no trouble hosting anything so I don't think this is an ISP issue. I'll upload my normal setup (mub-commitedcfg.cfg) on the off chance you have time to look at it but I'd kinda prefer the bridging option as mentioned in my previous post.
Regards
mub - I could really love the little 205 if it just did what I asked.
Hi my networking knowledge is very limited so i need help to setup my home network. my 205 connects to the computer by the ethernet cableto the onboard nic. I have a second NIC which connects to my other computer. I can get the 2 computers talking each other but the client computer cannot get on internet, what setting swould i need to make to get this to happen, the client computer will be used for p2p,im and online gaming and i am not even interested in using the usb connection(which will please you). Any help would be appreciated greatly
Hi,
The power light on my router stays on, and the Diag, Ethernet and USB lights are flashing. And the router is not working: I can't access the net or the admin pages, or anything.
Any help appreciated!
Jon
the rules for azereus don't work (i assume they did at one point) - it seems the latest version of azereus causes some kind of overloading, it's can get Azereus running (as long as you limit b/w and outgoing connections) but as soon as you try to connect to the web (internet explorer or whatever) the router becomes unresponsive to any communication for a while then comes back online a short time later (all by itself normally), any ideas what causes this - i've tried everything i can think of, some of the things i've tried:
- letting in ICMP as it's not NAT'ed otherwise (even if your NATing all) this seems to help but dosn't cure it
- creating specific rules to let port 16861 TCP & UDP in (obviously - but so that you don't think i missed this)
- redirecting with a specific NAT rule (again obviously)
- blocking azerues via a application firewall from using port 80 for anything
- modify nat global tcpidletimeout 1800 tcpclosewait 30 tcptimeout 10 udptimeout 15 - helps but not a cure
any ideas? someone said DHCP might somehow be the cause but i didn't have a clue what he was talking about/
Cor
Hello m8 i have sent you an email
can you please read it and get back to me
i'm in trouble
Regards Joker
"Java - 16.06.06 7:11 pm
the rules for azereus don't work (i assume they did at one point) - it seems the latest version of azereus causes some kind of overloading, it's can get Azereus running (as long as you limit b/w and outgoing connections) but as soon as you try to connect to the web (internet explorer or whatever) the router becomes unresponsive to any communication for a while then comes back online a short time later (all by itself normally), any ideas what causes this - i've tried everything i can think of, some of the things i've tried:
- letting in ICMP as it's not NAT'ed otherwise (even if your NATing all) this seems to help but dosn't cure it
- creating specific rules to let port 16861 TCP & UDP in (obviously - but so that you don't think i missed this)
- redirecting with a specific NAT rule (again obviously)
- blocking azerues via a application firewall from using port 80 for anything
- modify nat global tcpidletimeout 1800 tcpclosewait 30 tcptimeout 10 udptimeout 15 - helps but not a cure"
I have the same problem with torrents. Azureus aand BitCommet freeze HTTP traffic
also tried those, they help, but no cure. need that eMail :p
ive had some problems im not sure wheter its not my isp, when i play a game called css, i cant connect to server ive forwarded out ports.
i restart my router i can then connect but then i cant connect to anyother server untill i restart it.
my isp is tiscali im changeing isp who as there absolotly useless and they keep blameing my 205 for the problems....tards tbh they dont understand the concept that if i run it round a friends and they have tiscali it works fine and any other isp for that matter. i think im gunna change to bt......this site is great its helped me fine tune my router a treet
Hi, I am using Azureus and cannot get the green smiley. When I probe the port I have opening in the 205, mu router and my software firewall I just stealthed with GRC and probably stelathed on this site's probe. I can download torrents with a yellow smiley but not a green one. It seems to think I am still behind a firewall. Using WinXP SR2 with their firewall disabled. Also not running that silly service that XP Uses Using version 2.4.0.2 of Azureus. Anyone got any ideas. I have followed everything on these pages. Using a Linksys Router.
Thanks
Cor
Please! contact me m8
Regards Joker
Cor
Do you still live here??
i'm on linux and just so you know i'm getting the same problems on Linux - using KTorrent on kUbuntu
COR "Neospace, a fitting title for you. Because it's possible to create ranges with the 205, I have personally had no need to breach the 20 rule limit. Why not enter this new space, and discover for us? Slam in a heap of rules over telnet and see if the last ones still work."
If anyones interested, I dont seem to be having any troubles adding 25 rules, all seeem to be working fine. No problems to date. One just now with Azurres, but nothing that would jepordise my connection between my comp and router. (Hopes theres no underlying problem) But yeah, Seemingly, you can add as many as you like through telnet. Seems they nmust have put the limiter on it to stop normal people (Yes i mean normal People) from completely opening up there router to the rest of the world. Would seem like a good idea to me. But yeah, all in all. No problems so far. Ill keep you posted.
Take it easy peeps
Yeah, Joker! Still here! But I've been away for a few days, as often happens, especially in the Summer. I can't find your mail, but I haven't done a full scan yet; feel free to reply to that one I just sent you.
mub, afaik, there's no restriction on using high port numbers, I have servers running on a few high ports, and the 205 didn't mind at all. I used v1.6 firmware, though. But then, you port is *very* high. Scan the PDF for high ranges used for other things. By the way, in your situation, I'd ditch the 205, and use a simple modem.
grazazel, you'd be better off with a switch. Check the useful links section, above. If you can't afford the ten bucks, try enabling ICS on the main machine (follow the wizards).
Java, Bob, it just sound like you need to limit more. If you have 511 connexions to play with and Azzy is set to say, 500, that doesn't leave a lot of room for anything else. 300 max would be fine, say 200 max per torrent. Then run through your Azzy prefs, things like DHT may affect the total number of connexions. Those TCP/UDP timings can come down lots, too.
sam, you probably need to make some adjustments to your TCP/UDP (depending on the game) timings. Check out some of the ARSE game scripts (even if its not the game you play); they have lots of information and notes about this inside them.
dipper17, as well as creating the port-forwarding rule for the 205, did you forward the port in the linksys?
Neospace, interesting. I guess there must be a limit somewhere (the thing only has so much ram), so do let us know if you hit it!
for now..
;o)
like i said i've tried limiting connections - it's been set as low as 60 but atm it's on 120 - it's not just azerues either - it's also happening with KTorrent on kUbuntu(linux) - comes up as Stalled whenever i use a browser at the same time as it's downloading, comes correct again after maybe 4-5 minutes of not using the browser - what i have noticed in the NAT translations view is that the default nat rule 4294967295 is doing the forwarding
(see here - "23 4294967295 ppp-0 TCP - Outside 1796")
and not the NAT rule i set up for BitTorrent - could this be an exploit of some kind??? using the bittorrent protocol to attempt some kind of intrusion as thats a explanation that works as it's only recently started happening, what if that intrusion attempt was on port 80 and using the stateful entry gained from BT to try to pry open a otherwise protected port would that cause this?!, what if i delete the default rule to force it only to forward my BT port? can i do this?
Java, that is the "napt" rule, witch is for outgoing connexions. There should be other entries for the BT Port-forward (you may want to enable logging on that rule so that you can better watch its activity).
Reading you description, not much comes to mind; two things; first, perhaps something nefarious, so disconnect your DSL, wait ten minutes. Change the port you use for BT to something very different, reconnect DSL and see how things are (with different torrents, if possible, and disable any other servers you have running, for now). If the problem returns say ten to thirty minutes later, investigations along these lines can continue.
And the second; perhaps it's the browser. You haven't tweaked its pipelining capabities, have you? (by the way, this practice is not recommended)
;o)
I'm having a similar problem to Java.
Running http and Torrants at the same time just dosen't work, even email from outlook gets stuck, and the torrant will slow down to a crawl in both directions. I'm setting the maximum upload as low as 10kbs with no change.
Pausing or canceling the download frees things up again, but after a particually long session the net remains 'twichy' for some time. If http stops completely, it'll be about five minutes before it works again.
I'll try swaping the ports to see if that changes anything.
Your answer is probably up there
;o)
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